#transistor

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still zealot
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resets are now an integral part of the game

tough tundra
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Wait so what is their line up considered

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In terms of their games

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And what genres they've been defined as

noble portal
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well.... kinda depends on who you ask I guess but I've frequently seen Transistor billed as an RPG which does make sense so I'd say:
Bastion, Transistor: Action RPG
Pyre: visual novel/sport RPG
Hades: roguelike hack'n'slash(?) (haven't played Hades yet)

still zealot
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pretty much yeah

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tho honestly 'action rpg' is such a blanket term

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only slightly better than saying 'action adventure'

noble portal
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yeah

still zealot
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kinda like how their ost genres are unique for each game, the genre for the game itself isn't always easy to place

calm jackal
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i call em isometric brawlers

jolly radish
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i am sure some people think royce is creepy, and that's okay! we support all sorts of opinions in this channel, even when they're incorrect squirtnya

zinc stag
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honestly his way of talking just made me think jeff goldblum fused w microsoft sam

calm jackal
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thats actually his parents

tough tundra
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Feel more like Steve Buschemi since Goldblum just has a quality in his sound that makes him a bit brighter anf sharper

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Its so hard to pinpoint him nvm

frail fulcrum
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Are there videos with the all dialogue from Boxer?

still zealot
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probably

noble portal
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They’re probably really long

still zealot
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yeah, he does do most of the talking throughout the entire game

spring plover
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The files have been extracted before but I don't think anyone has uploaded all of them. It would be a lot of work

jolly radish
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...pardon my fridge horror, all (and the hasty mobile photo), but uh

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shadeohboy💦

weary heron
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:O

blissful blaze
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👀

jolly radish
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trna is the only game where the sight of wheat makes me 😱

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and like i swear greg said in one of the old q&as that there's no physical disease as we'd think of it in cloudbank s-so...??

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Dark(?) Take: people retire to the country voluntarily all the time.........

calm jackal
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the reason people are so casual abt it is because it's usually a choice

noble portal
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Wow

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Uh

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Wow

jolly radish
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honestly i feel like that could well be true... i'm not totally sure that people in cloudbank have the same relationship with death that we do

calm jackal
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that's the kind of lore consequences that you get when you write a utopia

rare moth
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hhhhhhh o YIKES good catch xel

jolly radish
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also hahaha this completely ruins everything rn but i was going through the assets in soup's transistor channel (because i was looking for more wheat imagery) and ran across this + the subsequent comment

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You know I had to do it to em

rare moth
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YES

jolly radish
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longboye

noble portal
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Omg I never noticed the damn cigarette

calm jackal
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is this used in game?

noble portal
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(Also if you pump up the brightness in that scene he has a pretty fancy chair behind him)

jolly radish
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yes!

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OH LMAO IS THAT HIS CHAIR??

noble portal
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Yeah there like an indistinct lump behind him but if you play with the colour settings in an editor it’s a really nice chair XD

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I’m at work otherwise I’d dig through my files to find it

jolly radish
pulsar lily
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looks comf

noble portal
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Oh that’s not what I remember it looking like 🤔

jolly radish
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so 🅱lue

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oh is that a different chair?

noble portal
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I’ll check back in a bit when I get home and see if it is

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I could be wrong

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Anyway I gotta go, enjoy your voluntary death-retirement lore XD

jolly radish
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i feel like there's an awful lot of "inversion" imagery vis-à-vis cloudbank and the country in transistor

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yellow 🔻 vs blue 🔺 ...

knotty moth
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"and like i swear greg said in one of the old q&as that there's no physical disease as we'd think of it in cloudbank s-so...??"

Personally I see that as another brick in the wall of the clues that point toward Cloudbank as a simulated virtual environment.

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And I'd tend to see voluntarily retiring to the country at a certain age, maybe mid 30s, as something like switching off from social media because you're weary of it

loud sable
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mid 30's? LOL

whole grove
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...every OVC terminal claims that it is the 67th year of Cloudbank, we cannot be sure about that beacause nobody in Cloudbank is that old, people are usually around their 30s...

knotty moth
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Where in your younger years yuo'd be a more voracious consumer of social media content and interactions. And I don't think this was ever explicitly shown, but are there any children in cloudbank? It doesnt really prove anything that they're absent, maybe they just weren't relevant to the story and assets werent made for them.

cedar grove
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Grant is also younger than that, right

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he’s like 50 something?

knotty moth
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Yeah I was going by the ages in the character porfiles. Obviously we dont have any detailed demographics or anything

whole grove
cedar grove
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oh sorry I was talking irt the thing ship posted

knotty moth
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I mean, that's just his theory. It kinda turns me off how arrogant it sounds for him to be "explaining" the plot when he's not the writer

whole grove
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What are you referring to?

cedar grove
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Cloudbank being 67

whole grove
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Oh I was asking bomoo

knotty moth
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I meant that guide you linked.

cedar grove
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oh I’m sorry lol

knotty moth
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Oh derp, I'm sorry, I was thinking of another guide.

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Heccck my bad.

whole grove
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No worries

knotty moth
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Disregard what I said, please.

whole grove
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Anyway, to wrap up the whole confusion, the quote I gave from that guide was a complement to what bomoo said, i.e backing it up

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Uhh let me link a screenshot

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🙂

knotty moth
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Yeah, the children thing, I figured, to use the social media analogue in our world, you could say people before their teens don't plug into social media so much.

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I mean yeah in our world they do, but the golden age for binging on social media seems to be teens - mid/late 20s, I'd argue

whole grove
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I guess whenever people get to the point in their lives when they want to show off their best life on social media, and have the opportunity to do so

knotty moth
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Other clues are the holodeck ceiling in the Sandbox

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All the programming terminology

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The fact that the game was tagged as "cyberpunk" early on

calm jackal
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im not sure if the fact that no children are "seen" is really that damning

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the characters that are functions are in the sword because they're influencial

knotty moth
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The Transistor as an admin-level control program for shaping the virtual environment, and the way Red uses it almost clumsily, like a sword, and Royce is using it much more deftly

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Yeah probably not conclusive, Cake. Maybe children just weren't important to the story and so assets for them weren't made.

whole grove
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It's also pretty difficult to tell because we never see cloudbank actually populated, not even in a flashback

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I think that is one of the few missed opportunities I wish was taken in transistor, you walk down empty streets and stuff which is cool and atmospheric and fits with the narrative but... there isn't really a frame of reference for what it would have been like before the disaster, other than OVC terminals

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Which makes it sort of hard to gauge how bad the disaster is and how much it's actually affecting people

calm jackal
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transistor's supposed to be kind of a lonely game

whole grove
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Yeah and I understand that

knotty moth
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Then again you never see that in Bastion either

whole grove
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That's true. Although you do get a little bit from going to all the locations and seeing them being destroyed, which helps you gauge it

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It feels like you could say that about transistor but it feels very different

knotty moth
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also I suspect OVC means "online voting console"

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I never caught that Sybil knew Boxer would be there, and that he'd get in the way.

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Wasn't that just an accident?

blissful blaze
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oh, sybil definitely knew

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well.

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Ms. Reisz promised that the Camerata could get to Red at a time when she would be completely alone. Trace data reveals an 85% chance she falsified this claim.

still zealot
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pretty likely

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and knowing her, incredibly likely

blissful blaze
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Through all this, Ms. Reisz observed the aloofness of one of Red's companions, and decided he must have been insinuating Red against her. Ms. Reisz thought through various ways to rectify this.

knotty moth
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Ohhh interesting

still zealot
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like that

calm jackal
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sybil made sure blue would die

jolly radish
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late but although i don't have the link to the old anniversary chats (@spring plover, do you?) i believe word of greg exists that there are children in cloudbank, even if we don't see them

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...and, interestingly, that the process of having children may work in a way that is different from what we're used to

noble portal
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bah, I lost my screenshots of Royce's studio...

spring plover
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I do not have them on hand but might later

noble portal
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oh I found a small one

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aaand I can't post images XD

shrewd root
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Upload to imgur and post the link 👍

noble portal
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but the chair xel found WAS in fact the chair in that image

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that's all I wanted to check

jolly radish
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royce.......

noble portal
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it's mirrored and the lighting makes it look more green but

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that's the one XD

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gotta watch the world end from the snazziest chair in your house

jolly radish
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lmfsd 10/27/17 was a wild day in trna channel

noble portal
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?

jolly radish
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haha i'm just backreading soup

noble portal
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I'm at soup...

still zealot
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What do you mean you're at soup?!

jolly radish
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ahah, soup is a colloquial nickname for the fan-run supergiant server, @still zealot

still zealot
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oh

noble portal
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"3much leggy"

still zealot
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i thought it was referencing the soup meme

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good laugh if you ever look it up

noble portal
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a little bit also that

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so few people know what it's actually from tho, that series is gold

still zealot
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it is!!

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i love abridgements so much

jolly radish
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oH LMAO now that you mention it

still zealot
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:D

jolly radish
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i totally forgot about that

still zealot
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What store are you in?!?!

jolly radish
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that is basically how i imagine asher and royce's dynamic tbh

still zealot
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pffftttt

noble portal
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XD

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I hadn't considered that

jolly radish
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see how i....... cleverly made it on topic shadesmile

still zealot
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just gonna crowbar that right in

noble portal
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ok but who's who in that situation? XD

jolly radish
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oh if you think asher's not the camerata's Only Sane Man...

noble portal
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fair enough

still zealot
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tbf every character in that abridgement (except maybe the main girl) is insane and pretty dimwitted

jolly radish
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which is so sad because he's the youngest of the lot

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i kind of imagine grant as a low key yet still pretty even split between volfred sandalwood and the mayor from portlandia

still zealot
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oof I wish I could say but I've never seen the actual anime

jolly radish
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ahaha no it's a super goofy show, it's on netflix i believe

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i imagine grant as someone who can express great ideas incredibly eloquently and persuasively

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......and also as someone who can express very bad ideas incredibly eloquently and persuasively

still zealot
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lmao

noble portal
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sounds about right

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remember, we have it on semi-good authority that political assassinations were Grant's idea XD

jolly radish
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lfmdsa yes

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you say that JUST as i'm about to sing the praises of grant's heart being in the right place hahahaha

still zealot
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n i c e

noble portal
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Grant: What if we just killed some people? 🤷
Royce: ...... 🤔 ...... Yeah alright.

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oops XD

still zealot
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this is great

cedar grove
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it took me so long to realize what the censored word is

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even tho i wrote this

calm jackal
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i think the camerata kinda drank the koolaid

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wow this place is kinda boring > it would be better if only smart people could vote > the smart people wouldnt agree with that idea > let's steal their souls

jolly radish
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lmjdkl

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oh man now that i'm at a keyboard i can actually write this out though

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okay full disclosure which is i have not thought overmuch about the entire camerata's reasons for going along with this whole plan, mostly just royce and to a smaller extent grant seeing as they were kind of the architects of the whole thing, and of those two mostly just royce because i'm a fic writer and think way too much about my faves and their motivations dusa

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i'm presupposing, i guess, that whatever you think of cloudbank, it does have rather more in common with a digital world than a physical one

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i think that the camerata's ultimate goal didn't stem from elitism, though certainly you could argue that in practice that's what it was

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my impression was that their deliberate targeting of free-thinkers and highly individualistic and influential people was not to silence them, though--rather, something about their traces/natures was supposed to help the camerata accomplish their vision of helping cloudbank realize its full potential. it was because they valued the contributions of those people in some almost material way that is totally incomprehensible to me because how does the transistor even work

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i think from royce's perspective, it's important to consider cloudbank in terms of what are constants and what are variables. in cloudbank, just about everything's a variable, right? everything can change, right down to the color of the sky or the layout of the city, hell, possibly even things we consider laws of nature, such as gravity (looking at fairview)

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which makes sense when you think about virtual worlds, like... even take the games we play, right, you can put all kinds of variable wonky weirdness into a program. so like... where are the constants? what's stable in cloudbank? its people (their opinions? definitely not. their intrinsic value to making cloudbank cloudbank? i'd say yes but i think royce kind of. misses that piece)? maybe not. but... math. math's a constant. mathematical laws can be counted on, used to impose a little order on what some might perceive as chaos.

knotty moth
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Oh, my theory was that the transistor essentially takes a snapshot of their cloudbank "profile" and then simulates that internally by having some kind of AI or NPC construct behave as the living person would have

jolly radish
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and so following that, apparently the process operates according to the same order, and so does the transistor--and that's the piece by which it's possible to manipulate order, impose order.

knotty moth
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so they dont dissent or otherwise get disruptive, but the camerata would still get (mostly) the benefit of their creative juice

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so you're using simulations of creative people to create a perfect city inwhich nobody atually lives but the architects

jolly radish
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well, it's interesting you mention that, because there are certainly those people that the camerata targeted who at the fundamental level absolutely share many of the same opinions i think

calm jackal
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bomoo, in their plan, the average person wouldn't die, they'd just lose the vote

jolly radish
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take niola for example, she very clearly saw the flaws in a society that placed all its value in majority rule. when you base your decisions only on the most popular choice in every given situation, that's going to result in a lot of people not having a voice

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i think you could make a pretty strong case from boxer's existence alone that there are probably way more invisible/marginalized/silenced people in cloudbank than there seems to be on the surface. he's obviously an extreme case since he like, basically doesn't exist as far as cloudbank's concerned, but what about, oh, say, people who have suffered various forms of reprisal for doing their work in socially unacceptable (farrah, shomar) or unpopular (royce) or damaging (darzi) ways? 👀

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my point being, cloudbank does become less utopian the closer you look. and so here you have royce, who has grown quite frustrated and disgruntled with the popular vote's lack of appreciation for his work... and being a math nerd, he's like "well, there's got to be a way to know what people will want, right?" and that's when he discovers this unnerving mathematical predictability to the decisions people make.

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when you think about it, discovering the process would be like if here in this world somebody not only discovered definitive evidence of dark matter/dark energy, but also how to manipulate them to change our physical reality. that's enormous!

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and if you knew there was a way to let the world around you do anything, be anything, and suddenly you saw that all it was allowed to be was just this tiny sliver of its full potential based on what the majority of the population wants, well... maybe that would feel like a huge waste of the city you love

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so my belief ultimately is that what royce saw was a cloudbank that is stuck in this eternal repetition, doing the same things over and over and over within the constraints of the rut it's worn for itself via majority rule throughout the course of its history

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you see something like this with asher, too, when he dives deep into the city's history and finds that nothing really makes sense

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tl;dr while their individual reasons may differ, my hot take is that the camerata's intention was actually to set cloudbank free, not to control them

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and for someone like royce, the sacrifice of a few dozen people amounts to cosmological peanuts compared to that

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he's galaxy brain 24/7 man

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thank u for coming to my ted talk

loud sable
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cloudbank does become less utopian the closer you look
I mean yeah, such is the nature of utopias, humans don't like perfection, whilst striving for it

jolly radish
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bold of u to assume they're human fndkls NO THOUGH that's completely accurate

zinc stag
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it's not even utopian in the first place bc ppl in the minority will always get shafted ahaha, but ig if u were in the main ppl benefitting from th e votes and stuff it would be utopian w/o closer examination

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but i did find it sort of like a dystopian hellscape the moment we played the game 😂

jolly radish
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royce probably couldn't give a hoot about cloudbank's people when all's said and done aside from considering them as some kind of abstract entity but grant i think absolutely wanted to change cloudbank for the better for its people

loud sable
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from their own perspective I'd argue they view it as utopian

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And if you don't fall in line, you're simply not a part of the utopia, more a parasite

jolly radish
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i continue to really really wonder if cloudbank even has currency

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or if the currency is less tangible, say, taking the form of social capital

zinc stag
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yeah it's utopian for whoever's left
for 'utopian' societies i usually look at what's missing and apparently sickness/disability doesn't exist in cloudbank, so their utopia has always been a bit of an ableist hellscape probably haha

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yeah idk if they have conventional money? since you didn't have to pay anything just to order from junction jan's

jolly radish
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well yeah i mean... look at max darzi

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though there doesn't seem to be disease, the poor guy returns to his addiction because people like his work better that way

loud sable
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does a utopia need currency to function?

zinc stag
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i don't quite remember which one that is bc i've only played once recently

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idk if there's currency bc did they sell stuff? i vaguely recall mentions of things being sold out, but might be wrong

jolly radish
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hmm, good question! i suppose one doesn't call things "complimentary" unless there's a cost associated with it under other circumstances

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hahaha god what if cloudbank is like that episode of black mirror where your privileges are based on how much popular/successful people have up or downvoted you

calm jackal
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thatd be a bit on the nose

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i mean, currency is only necessary if there's scarcity

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somehow i dont get the sense that anything runs out in cloudbank

zinc stag
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my goblin brain: they ran out of time in the end /dab
me: that's rude

calm jackal
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ran out of that precious "not dying" juice

zinc stag
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🙏

noble portal
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I think the idea of a reputation/favour-based economy is neat, but kind of a nightmare in practive

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also thank-you for the ted talk, Xel

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I'm inclined to agree with the majority of it

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also re: what does the Transistor even do with those traces?

It's not just a weapon, it does otehr stuff and I feel like the combat versions of the functions are kind of incidental. THe function entries imply there's some other quality taken from the people integrated beyond whatever shooty-ness it bestows upon the device. ie. from Niola's entry: "The Camerata saw in Ms. Chein an invaluable moral compass of sorts, [...] This type of perspective they felt was important counter-balance in comparison to some of the other individuals they had in mind..."

The Transistor is taking on those qualities from Niola somehow but what does it do with them, right? My best guess is if we look at Royce's metaphor for what the Transistor is/does wrt the city, with one like a brush and the other like a canvas. But you need something to put on that canvas to colour it, right? As it's presented to us the metaphor is incomplete, unless we extrapolate that all these people are like different colours of paint. They all do something different to how the Transistor controls or alters the city, even if it's something abstract like Niola's ethics or Olmarq's drive, as opposed to something more tangible like Darzi's sense of aesthetics

calm jackal
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it thinks with the traces

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unsupported headcanon: when the sword hit blue and errored out, only his ideals factored into the process
it started breaking the city down to meaningless blank slates because that's what blue thought of the city

noble portal
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ooh

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I kinda like that

calm jackal
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boxer really hates cloudbank, or doesnt think very highly of it. first thing he mentions when the camerata are coming after them is "let's just go to the country"

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ooh hey, and the other thing we catch the process doing is snapping pics of red

noble portal
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so...

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crime in Cloudbank 🤔

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because there clearly is some kind of crime in Cloudbank, they have a police force

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and Admins seem to have some kind of judicial power

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what.... do you do with a criminal in Cloudbank? Prison I guess but like....

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could there be a "death penalty"? which I guess is equivalent to "exile"? Or are we too civilized for that?

calm jackal
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there is an example of crime being dealt with, actually

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farrah yon dale

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she was banned from doing the thing that she did illegally

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the question, i guess, is how they enforced that ban

noble portal
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assuming skypainting is controlled by some sort of console she was probably locked out digitally, like having her permissions restricted,, or banned from the facility she used to do it

calm jackal
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for some reason i always assumed she had a little biplane with some sort of skypaint shooting out the back of it

noble portal
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omg

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that's way cooler XD

calm jackal
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i guess i associated skypainters with skywriters

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your explanation makes more sense

noble portal
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heh

calm jackal
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i was thinking of different crimes and then i remembered olmarq

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there might not be illness in cloudbank but olmarq's reckless play does indeed cause injuries on people

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so it's not as if injury is impossible

noble portal
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yeah I was thinking the other day that hospitals in Cloudbank probably don't have much in the way of long-term care, more like trauma wards and maaaybe obgyn?

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being a doctor in CB is probably boring

calm jackal
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a lot of things in cloudbank are done with computers, because everything is so mutable

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people's bodies aren't messed with as extensively, either because it's taboo, or because there's something about bodies that prevents that

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my point is that being a doctor is probably the most hands on job you can do

noble portal
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fair enough

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if the OVC article about Process sickness and what happened to Sybil are any indication, I don't thikn the processes governing Cloubank mesh well with squishy human parts

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I may or may not lean into the body horror when I write about Sybil's condition >.>

frail fulcrum
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TIL the voice actor of Royce was also in The Walking Dead

languid trail
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squishy squishy + bEeP BOOp = no

whole grove
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I need to replay transistor starB

noble portal
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He was in the later seasons of Castle as well iirc

still zealot
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omg I literally instantly recognized starB

frail fulcrum
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Glad to see he's successful

still zealot
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He's among my favorite youtubers

still zealot
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And as for the voice actor MMM

knotty moth
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Is that the guy who does team forterss videos?

still zealot
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He used to yeah

whole grove
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3.5 years ago or so now

sturdy gale
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Y’all... spirits in super smashbros are like the functions on the transistor. Basically what I’m saying is red is canon is super smash bros lore and this 100% confirms it

noble portal
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lol

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Red4Smash when

wispy grail
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I used to think that Red being in smash was impossible until nintendo decided to stick Joker in smash

drifting timber
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man.........i'd love red as a playable character in smash.......

noble portal
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definitely don't just want a Royce echo fighter

drifting timber
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i would be perfectly fine with that too

tough tundra
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The day any of the super giant games characters becomes refreneced in smash is when I'll believe the possibility of red being in smash

drifting timber
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it worked out for shovel knight! i think anything is possible

calm jackal
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man would be an interesting assist trophy

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just hanging out, dropping haircuts once in a while

willow harbor
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my friend just started playing transistor and he's using jaunt+breach going nyoooom all over everyone and im just---- lmfao

tough tundra
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Jaunt is honestly the most fun to abuse and feel like you're some techno ninja

foggy fable
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My problem is that when combat gets intense, I panic, so when I use jaunt, I’m really just spamming the button and praying that nothing hits me.

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I’ll take my overkill functions any day over “tactical sense” 🤣

tough tundra
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Oh I agree jaunt for me is the nope after I'm done putting a combo

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Like boom boom boom then nope nope nope then right at the last second plan plan plan rinse repeat

calm jackal
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Ghost feels so much better as a panic button

tough tundra
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I agree

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I'm just too try hard for transistor for my own good sometimes

fresh void
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Oh panic spamming? Did you mean my entire video game skill?

drifting timber
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same

tough tundra
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Panic spam is life

ivory carbon
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When I played Transistor, I activated every one of those things that make the game harder

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And boy, was it hard

tough tundra
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Must have really overloaded yourself

tough tundra
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Need to transistor better

loud sable
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I was satisfied enough with the story that I left it at that lol

knotty moth
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Transist harder. I think I usually ranwith all but one or twoof the more annoying limiters which would've required me to build specifically to counter them.

floral plank
foggy fable
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@nintendo prove your love to me and make this happen

young cedar
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Wow that's cool

lost blaze
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aaa i drew that! i hurt myself coming up with ideas bc it just made me wish it were real 😭

rare moth
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oh its you!! hi!! how does it feel being the best transistor artist 🎙

cedar grove
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bless ur transistor fanarts

lost blaze
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jdkflsjg oh shucks... i do what i can to do justice to such a pretty game u_u)/ ✨

ivory briar
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My friend who likes smash asked me something along the lines of "If you could have any character in smash, what would it be?" And, of course, I answered Red. I'm honestly happy to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that. One point though, my friend said that the art style might be a bit strange for smash, but I noticed that the little transistor figurine would fit right in with a little modification

finite wigeon
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If Red and Transistor were ever included in smash, i'd buy it right away

ivory briar
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I think thats a given for anyone in this server

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She would fit right in

lost blaze
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i dont think red stylistically would look too weird in smash tbh!! if u follow the main art rather than her sprite model ingame perhaps

still zealot
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It's almost like we're talking in the SSG discord server, in the channel dedicated to Transistor

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funny that a lot of people would like transistor 😅

finite wigeon
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3D models might not be that hard to conceive from the game's art actually thonk

still zealot
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but yeah jesus i would want smash so bad

ivory briar
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I think Red is the only character from the supergiant games (maybe the kid) that would work well in smash

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It's a singular character with a large variety of extremely different attacks, kind of like the current mega man. I could see Red fitting in extremely well

lost blaze
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soooo agree!! really high uniqueness potential with her!!

still zealot
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I mean the Kid would work, and even the Hades protag

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just have them alternate between weapons

ivory briar
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It doesn't all have to be special attacks too, for example a forward tilt could be ping instead of bash

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I agree, but Red has the largest variety of weapons available to do that

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Zagreus has 4 weapons, and if you count the daedalus hammer than you got a little more to go off of

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That is only currently in Early Access though, so who knows what pops up later on

still zealot
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mhmm

ivory briar
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The Kid has a fair amount of weapons, but, in my opinion, they wouldn't be as interesting in a fighting game as Red's would be

still zealot
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yeah

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they're pretty straightforward

ivory briar
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I think it would be too similar to some of the other characters already in smash

still zealot
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not much flair to work with

ivory briar
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yeah

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And, sadly, pyre doesn't have anyone that could fit a role like that

still zealot
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yeah no

ivory briar
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unless we want pokemon trainer but with 8 different swaps

still zealot
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Let me basketball my enemy to death!

ivory briar
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You chuck pikachu into the pyre

still zealot
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the final smash is you dunking your opponent through the hoop

ivory briar
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If only

cobalt fjord
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Since this discussion has come around again, i'll just post this here:


Won't use:
    Switch(), Help()

Jab:
    Punch/Slap, Kick, Spark(Royce's Animation) (Like Ike's Jab)
U-Tilt:
    Load()/Help() Animation, but up like Palutena's OR
    Something like MetaKnight's u-tilt
F-Tilt:
    Ping()
D-Tilt:
    Telekinetically "slide" transistor forward on ground
Dash-A:
    Bounce()
U-Smash:
    Cull()
F-Smash:
    Crash()
D-Smash:
    Tap()
N-Air:
    "Sex Kick" like Mario/Luigi/Yoshi/Shiek
U-Air:
    <>Swipe Up with transistor like Marth<>
    OR
    Stab up
F-Air:
    Telekinetic forward thrust like when camerata attempts to take red
B-Air:
    Self-Buff (The end part, like Ike b-air)
D-Air:
    <>Slicing strike downward (spike) like Ike kinda<>
    OR
    Level-up like animation (more like link's down-air)
N-Special:
    Breach() (Slightly Aimable, Chargeable, non-storeable)
U-Special: 
    Flourish (Hitbox?)
S-Special:
    Purge()
    Flood()
    Jaunt() (like Fox/Falco)
D-Special:
    Load() (Hit to detonate, can be hit by other fighters)
    Mask() (Function like Incineroar's Counter)
Final Smash:
    Turn() OR 
    Help(Passive - Superuser)
Grab:
    Get()
U-Throw:
    Turn into "CardCube" (the box thing above processeed people) and send up.
        Similar to Kirby/DDD star spit
F-Throw:
    Same as U-Throw, but forward.
B-Throw:
    Same as U-Thorw, but backward.
D-Throw:
    Lightly Tap() the opponent
Ledge-A:
    Royce-like Attack from ledge
Ground-A-Forward:
    <>Sweeping Leg Attack<>
Ground-A-Backward:
    <>Sweeping Leg Attack<>
Ground-A-Slip:
    <>Sweeping Leg Attack<>
Dodge:
    <>Generic Dodge<>
S-Dodge:
    <>Generic Spot Dodge<>

Entrance:
    Teleport in in MuseScreenIdle position
Taunt 1:
    Humming
Taunt 2:
    Fidget Eye + "Jerk"
Taunt 3:
    Power lost 
Idle 1:
    Examine
Idle 2: 
    Fidget
Victory 1:
    MuseScreenIdle
Victory 2:
    Humming to Victory Fanfare
Victory 3:
    Level up

Other:
Shield: 
    Bounce(Passive)
noble portal
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(Late to this one but I think any Pyre characters explicitly don’t work, considering the Rites are meant to be nonviolent... unless we grab a pre-exile commonwealth soldier or harp)

ivory briar
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wow

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yeah @noble portal

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and @cobalt fjord thats insanely detailed, honestly well done

cedar grove
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tam for smash

rare moth
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YES

unborn prairie
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Transistor keeps moving to another monitor when I alt-tab. Does anyone know of a fix to this, by some chance?

cobalt fjord
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Try changing your primary monitor in screen settings

wispy stratus
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You could also just not alt tab

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Although that doesn't really fix it

unborn prairie
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There is not a primary monitor option in settings, I am afraid.

shrewd meadow
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Is it just me or does transistor feel a whole lot shorter than pyre and bastion

young cedar
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I don't think it's just you

calm jackal
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I've always heard that bastion and transistor are roughly the same length

noble portal
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pyre is definitely longer

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on reflection I felt like Bastion was maybe a bit longer but I was also struggling with the general feel of it a bit, since I played Transistor first, which was sort of a streamlined version of Bastion's controls and UI

keen atlas
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bastion has a lot more side stuff you CAN do, but don't really have to. Transistor's chamber challenges are (in my opinion) much easier then Bastion's weapon challenges
It adds up to something - also I feel like Bastion's challenges are very dependent on already having upgrades, which means getting the ingredients first.

noble portal
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sounds about right

shrewd meadow
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Ya it took me 9 hrs to beat both of them

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I feel like bastion is longer maybe because I took a pretty long break from it until I finally finished the game

shrewd meadow
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It also makes me really happy that I was able to take away one of royce's lives in a single turn()

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All 1200 hp

noble portal
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will it let you do that? I thought he became immune to damage until his hp reset 🤔

calm jackal
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yeah, but you can knock him all the way down to reset

noble portal
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oh I misread that

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I read it as "all of royce's lives" and was like O,o

floral plank
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Bastion feels much shorter than Transistor to me. But maybe that's just me wasting too much time in the Sandbox

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in-game time is roughly the same, but I haven't finished recursing Transistor yet, while Bastion got beaten twice.

shrewd meadow
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Right after I finished transistor I had to go somewhere so I didn't have to time for that recursing thing

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What is it exactly

calm jackal
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play game again except it's harder but you have all your functs

noble portal
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you can continue levelling up as well, you cap out at 30

calm jackal
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oh yeah, you eventually get doubles of every function

noble portal
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which is great

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upgrading a function with itself can do some wacky things, eg. Breach(Breach()) will bounce off walls

still zealot
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oh wow

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never played recursor, that sounds really funny

calm jackal
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your options increase exponentially

shrewd meadow
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Oh cool I guess I'm not with the game

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Also breach() with the small bombs(I forgot what they're called) is really good

calm jackal
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load? or spark?

wispy stratus
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Load i think

calm jackal
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i always put load on passive, for whatever reason

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I'd rather have them as a get out of jail free card sometimes than have to plan around them to make a sick combo

shrewd meadow
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No I meant spark, the one with the bunch of small explosions

calm jackal
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i forget what spark does as a modifier

noble portal
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it causes most functions to create a burst of smaller projectiles at the end of their range

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so breach becomes a burst of smaller arrows, but its range is greatly reduced and I don't think it pierces targets anymore

still zealot
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so shotgun breach

lyric forge
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god if red were in smash i would play no one else

weary heron
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ikr

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goodbye all of my mains

lyric forge
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peach who? zss what?

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bayonetta whomst???

calm jackal
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oh man, red as a bayo clone?

still zealot
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pffft

tough tundra
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Link who? What is a Fire Emblem?

full peak
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royce

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bracket

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Hm. royce bracket

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what about that bracket

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where do i even start

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start from the start..?

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no no, when it comes to royce theres no clear start or end

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like a cycle of mystery

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<forgot everything i played> d-do go on !

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hey i forgot too, i must go

frail fulcrum
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This looks like what would happen if you used machine learning to generate a conversation in this server

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Like that subreddit simulator

unborn prairie
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Obama struck a chord yesterday because the game wasn't properly installed in time. 50 Shades of Grade completely devastated audiences this summer. Updoots to the left, ya'll.

shrewd root
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Does... does Discord have a problem with bot accounts?

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Or is this in reference to the above generated conversation

unborn prairie
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Who is a bot? You are a bot. Ha. Haha. Bots are stupid. You do not want to be a bot.

shrewd root
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If so, well done

unborn prairie
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Nah, I was just coming in this channel to complain about Flood(), honestly.

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But then I saw the above and read it and was confused as Muttnik, so figured I'd chip in.

shrewd root
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Confusion achieved 😆

wispy grail
unborn prairie
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Haha. Good! Now, tell me why Flood() sucks. 😦

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I really want to like it but cannot for the life of my find a practical application.

wispy grail
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which one is flood again?

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dont think i ever used it

unborn prairie
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The orb of damage over time.

wispy grail
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oh yeah

unborn prairie
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It's slow, not a huge AoE, and really not a lot of damage, either.

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...But thematically it's neato.

wispy grail
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yeah that's useless compared to everything else you can equip

unborn prairie
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Yeah, exactly.

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Ah, oh well. 😦

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I really wanted to use Help() and the other one I forgot the name of--the one that turns an enemy into an ally.

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But I've found that those are just...not...good either.

cedar grove
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hey at least its not switch

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oh

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yeah, its switch

unborn prairie
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...Oh.

wispy grail
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the one that turns enemies into allies is good as a upgrade function

still zealot
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I found that they died too easily for it to work well

unborn prairie
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I'd prefer to have a dead enemy than a frenemy. And sadly, I find that if things aren't properly dead within a certain timeframe, then I am.

still zealot
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though switching a weed was always super handy

wispy grail
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i always liked switching young ladies

still zealot
wispy grail
calm jackal
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flood is a good passive, i think

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in my first run i had spark(switch) as an emergency button

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the dog coming for you? now its your friend

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the haircut about to blow you up? it just did a uturn

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makes the game super slow, though

unborn prairie
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(Ironically Flood() is there, lol.)

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Breach-Bounce-Get is probably all I can reasonably do...

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Although I do like Bounce as a passive...

calm jackal
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you know what would be cool? a transistor max level speedrun

unborn prairie
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I haven't beaten it yet (if that is not obvious), but is there any replayability or "max-level" anything?

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I know I've seen something about NG+.

calm jackal
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there is a ng+, you keep all your functions

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and obviously, it gets harder

unborn prairie
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I never really replayed Bastion (other than to make the other choice). I won't lie in saying I wish for other reasons to keep coming back.

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Especially when the mechanics of the game itself are so enjoyable. I often catch myself daydreaming of a Bastion ARPG with roguelike/lite mechanics.

calm jackal
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I've replayed transistor lots of times

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it's a shame that you cant replay the sandbox levels

shrewd root
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Bastion with RL mechanics is basically Hades 😉

calm jackal
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lol, i thought RL stood for "real life" for a second

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hades is so realistic

unborn prairie
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"And this is how you use your hammer to tenderize meat."

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I cannot think of any other RL applications for Bastion.

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OH! "This is how to woo men and women alike with your voice alone."

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...Anyway. I should probably look into Hades. But, honestly, I usually wait a few years after a game "releases" so it's fixed (and done and all the DLC is out and all of that).

shrewd root
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I should really go back and finish Transistor... I started playing it last year or maybe the end of 2017, but then I got busy and didn't get back to it. Probably better off just starting from scratch though 😆

unborn prairie
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I did the same, actually, in that I stopped playing it [for reasons] and now I am back with a vengeance. It is a very good game and absolutely worth your time. 👍🏿

junior quail
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Apart from maybe the first few minutes, is there any reason to play NG+ in Transistor?

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Also, the "hum" button might be my favorite mechanic in any game ever.

calm jackal
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getting 2 of every func really opens up the wacky combos

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doing a whole run of 10 limiters is thrilling

junior quail
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That seems fun, but also very painful lol

wispy grail
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i recommend doing a run with all 10 limiters in NG+

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its very fun

junior quail
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Will do, haha. Any lore/plot reason for NG+ though?

wispy grail
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i dont think so

junior quail
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Aw, that's a shame :/

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I did enjoy what they did with Bastion, but I suppose "NG+" in that game definitely had a lot more reason to be there.

calm jackal
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i mean, recursion kinda exists lore-wise

junior quail
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How so?

calm jackal
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depends what fanon you follow

junior quail
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Mind elaborating?

calm jackal
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once she swords herself, her trace goes into the sword. since cloudbank is probably virtual anyway, it kinda makes sense for there to be another cloudbank inside the sword?

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it's a bit of a stretch

junior quail
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Interesting.

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Thanks!

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What's the difference between "Integrated" and "Recorded" in terms of Trace Status anyway? Brackett and the Camerata bunch seem to be "recorded" while other deceased are "integrated." Thought?

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Thoughts?*

cedar grove
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i suppose integrated are those who were killed by the transistor and their trace was integrated into it

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while the camerata and red were only in contact with it, so only recorded by it

calm jackal
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maybe it's these fellows that record traces

frigid plume
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Petition for Supergiant Games to release more limited edition vinyl records of Transistor's ost!

knotty moth
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I honestly struggled with the decision whether or not to buy a record player solely for the transistor vinyls

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The Junction Jan's shipping box nearly tipped me over the fence.

lofty prairie
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So like... This isn't a roguelike/lite, right?

spring plover
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Transistor??? No, it's an action rpg

lofty prairie
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I thought so. Had to double check here. First SGG is Hades.

spring plover
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Oh! Yeah, no Hades is a big change of pace for them, gameplay-wise.

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Bastion is a hack n slash, Transistor is a pause and play arpg (you can still kinda hack n slash if you want though), and Pyre is a combination visual novel and sportsball game

lofty prairie
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Yeah, when I saw the art for Pyre I got super hyped. Not big on most sports ball though.
I saw Transistor and it seemed cool... just wasn't sure I'd be down for a singing sword.
And basition I feared it'd feel clunky since it came out so long ago... Plenty of games have aged well... but plenty not as much.

rare moth
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imo bastion holds up

lofty prairie
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Holds up as well as Rogue Legacy holds up? even better? worse?

cedar grove
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ive never heard of rogue legacy

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anyway, bastion is worth playing and is still super fun, but this is the transistor channel

lofty prairie
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Aye, I was coming back around to that. Hoping to get some of a 'feel' on Bastion... then how it would translate to Transistor... which looks like they add a hyper focus mode to do crazy stuff like bullet time / cut time

frosty hare
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yeah, i never regret getting into either of those games. i do prefer transistor over bastion, because it feels more fluid - not having to “teleport” to levels. but that’s just a preference.

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the different weapons on bastion and the story are definitely a blast and worthwhile

cedar flume
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playstyle-wise bastion is most similar to hades, and even if it might feel a little clunky i'd say it only adds to the charm

frosty hare
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about transistor there’s really not much to say, i played it some years ago and it melts my heart to this day still. it’s amazing and really emotional. also the gameplay is really fun; i loved using turn( ) and seeing it all play out the way i wanted to

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yes indeed... its a hack and slash sort of thing with a unique style, bastion

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anyway even after 3? years i might pick transistor up on the switch just to experience all of it again in bed this time

cedar flume
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transistor can have slower battle system and overall it's pretty wild. but its a great story

frosty hare
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yeah the battle definitely is up to personal preference

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i loved making combinations with the functions too

cedar flume
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takes a bit to get used to

frosty hare
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it was honestly an amazing experience overall

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and i still try to connect the story

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so goood

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about pyre, it was very different but the emotional aspect was still very present, especially with the music to add to it. gameplay wise the VN-style was the slower, relaxing bit. the battles were really frenetic and innovative and i had a blast even though i sorta sucked lol

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the only thing that sorta disappointed me was that i couldnt interact with the character too well

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characters*

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there were dialogue options but they felt so bland and unimportant

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and not so frequent

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but the characters themselves were really nice and lovely

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yeah anyway im sure whichever you decide to pick up you’ll enjoy it

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even if not in one aspect, you might find others worthwhile or even amazing

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the music and art are absolutely great in all of them and i can spend hours listening to the soundtrack

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and playing on the sandbox in transistor of course

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the games are so. pretty.

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sorry this was sorta the wrong channel but i just wanted to give my impression for the fella that hadnt played them

tough tundra
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Red

unborn prairie
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Bye()

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That sure was some ending. By the stars.

zinc stag
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oo did u just finish playing?

unborn prairie
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I sure did. Sitting on the recursion screen as we speak.

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Have that strange feeling of catharsis and emptiness all at once.

zinc stag
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i recently finished too and man, i sort of saw it coming, but it still hurt jfkdlssj

unborn prairie
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I definitely did not see Red doing what she did.

zinc stag
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oof

unborn prairie
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I figured it would be a bittersweet ending, but I did not expect to that length.

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Welp, I guess it's on to Pyre.

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😂

zinc stag
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have fun! i haven't done that one yet bc i haven't had time, but it seems interesting!

unborn prairie
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To be blunt, I have next to no interest from what I've seen.

zinc stag
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that's fair 😂

unborn prairie
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Don't really care for those kinds of games, but I want to give it a go. Supergiant can seemingly do no wrong.

zinc stag
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ye, even if you don't end up liking it, u can always jam to the soundtrack or something :d

unborn prairie
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I'm still just kind of standing here.

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That was really, really, really great.

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Man. Man oh man. OK. Done for now.

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OK so Cloudbank was definitely-maybe a simulation, right? Kind of like that one episode of Black Mirror.

noble portal
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depends who you ask

unborn prairie
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...Bracket spoke to me and I am frightened. This really is recursion mode.

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...I need to find something else to play, lmao.

calm jackal
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Which episode of black mirror, lol

noble portal
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lol Royce gave you a spook? XD

unborn prairie
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I loved his voice, so I definitely welcomed it~ ❤

noble portal
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Heyyyy Red~

unborn prairie
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ablobsweats I need to go lie down.

lofty prairie
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Thanks for the feedback folks.

tough tundra
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Who do you think likes puns in Transistor?

blissful blaze
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boxer

tough tundra
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What if it was Sybil or Royce

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Asher*

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Or even red

noble portal
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Boxer, and I can imagine Red has an extreme secret weakness for them XD

tough tundra
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He would've had many opportunities to pun

fresh void
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Red likes those puns you don;t realize are puns at first but they mkae you go "Hey wait"

tough tundra
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Like: "I guess the world is truly spine less, huh red." And she just giggles at that

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Or "Ashs to ashs dust to dust"

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"Way to give them the silent treatment red, oh.....sorry."

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"Sea monster, see now that's a flatbread"

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"I shouldn't have taken him for granted"

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I could see boxer saying some of these lines

noble portal
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H

elfin furnace
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what kind of name is boxer anyway

spring plover
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it's a nickname from the game files, not a real name

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we never actually find out what his name is

upbeat sky
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He's called that 'cause his forearms have bandages on them

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Just, in case the connection wasn't super clear

noble portal
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also he's referred to as "boxer" in some of the files

spring plover
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yeah

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boxer is straight up how he's referred to in the game files

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which doesn't mean it's his name - red is called "muse" - but, yeah

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primarily that's where it came from.

calm jackal
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i mean, red could be a nickname too

spring plover
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red could be a nickname! but it's how her trace profile refers to her too

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and the polls around town

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so it's as good as a name

loud sable
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could be a falsified ID?

noble portal
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probably her public persona/stage name that she uses to interact with the city's network, she may have a "legal"/"real" name we don't know

lofty prairie
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I mean... it sounds like SG likes some good clean humor here n there.

pulsar lily
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boxer would absolutely tell dad jokes

knotty moth
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If you're on board with the virtual reality perspective, Red could simply be her handle. And Boxer's profile i ssketchy presumably because he doesn't participate in all the social media-like polling that goes on. More or less what my own social media presence would look like if you compiled it all together into a little data sheet.

noble portal
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Boxer is an “egg” account on twitter 😛

vestal sluice
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Yo

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New here and absolutely adored transistor

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Thought might as well join the disc

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Mostly cause of the ost

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Happy to be here

spring plover
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Welcome, we're happy to have you!! Transistor is and always will be my favorite Supergiant game, it was my first one and I'm still blown away by it

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Paper Boats just gets me every time

vestal sluice
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The spine got me into the game

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It's been my favourite since

spring plover
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Signals is also great

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And I'm not just saying that because it's the only one I can sing comfortably ;)

vestal sluice
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I just love every vocal one ><

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I'm genuinely so hyped for hades

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Cause it seems like a faster transistor

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And I love roguelikes

spring plover
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I think it's a roguelite technically, tho I'm a little fuzzy on the distinction myself

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I'd say combat is closer to bastion than transistor, but the art direction has pivoted back to a more transistor-y style

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Which I looove.

vestal sluice
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I loved transistor for its characters music and the world

knotty moth
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The distinction IS pretty fuzzy. I think people usually draw it between a traditional game that's like rogue vs. a game with randomized levels and permadeath

vestal sluice
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I loved bastion for its combat and freedom

knotty moth
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One distinction I heard somewhere or other is that if its turn based, its roguelike, if its not turn bsed, its rogue lite.

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and no Transistor is not rogue-anything because it's nto randomized.

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if you'd like to check out a very traditional rogue-like, try SOTS The Pit. That's a good un.

vestal sluice
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I have no idea what the difference is tbh

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I loved binding of Isaac and adored enter the gungeon

knotty moth
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I think some people tend to use the "lite" disapragingly to denote games hat are shallow or "casual," which I don't think is strictly accurate.

vestal sluice
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It seems like hades is literally perfect for my taste

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Also that's what I originally thought roguelite meant

knotty moth
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both of which I thinkare technically "lite" if you go by the turn-based traditionalist definition, simply because they arent turn based in the same way rogue or traditional roguelikes are.

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I think it was someone from SGG that talked about that distinction, now that I try to remember where I heard it.

vestal sluice
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So slay the spire would be roguelite?

knotty moth
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Hum, well I guess its turn bsaed, unless I'm mistaken, but it's not turn based in the same way rogue is.

vestal sluice
#

Hmmh

knotty moth
#

So I don't know what you'd call that.

vestal sluice
#

I guess it's up to interpretation

knotty moth
#

Yeah my inclination would be to call everything roguelike and then qualify just to what extent its like rogue afterwards.

vestal sluice
#

I'll just keep calling them both roguelikes

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Haha

knotty moth
#

Most games that can be described that way cherry pick mechanics from traditioal roguelikes to where the lines get very fuzzy

floral plank
#

I dislike the way Transistor handles levelling. In Bastion, you'd get a brief "lvl up" floaty text and later get to choose the upgrades when you get to actually apply them too (in that case, just filling the new slot in the distillery). In Transistor, you get clunky recap screens after every battle, and you have to select a bunch of upgrades mid-journey, despite none applying until you get to the next checkpoint anyways.

tough tundra
#

It's ironic when you think about it

#

You don't smoothly transition from one point to the next

floral plank
#

Gosh, your choice of words really reminds me of Royce... O.o

calm jackal
#

You could play transistor as a roguelike, I guess. Use the limiter that randomizes enemies, and delete your save when you die

#

I might try that actually, that sounds fun

tough tundra
#

Do I sound like Royce?

#

How odd very interesting......interesting....

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I find him more stranger than I

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Much stranger

smoky zealot
#

sounds like something royce would say volfredthink

noble portal
#

recorded-trace Royce thinks living Royce is weird, and vice versa

limpid quest
#

royce has the most relaxing voice out of any video game character ive ever heard tbh

tough tundra
#

Welp, guess I'm Royce

#

Guess I'll play

tough tundra
#

But I do puns so you might think I'm a boxer

rare moth
#

why
is it because youre
pun-ching me

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

You want these pun-ishing blows?

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Cause I could try to flow

#

If you want to go

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

Oh look crowd

#

Do we have your attention now?

cinder anvil
#

🤔

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

All eyes and ears I see

#

But not with glee

#

Maybe you all want to flee?

#

Like fleas when lights shine?

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

You don't look amused

#

Have I made it all look like a ruse?

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

I'm just cruising

#

Do you mind my musing?

limpid quest
#

dare i say

#

BARS

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

Bars....

#

I am speaking poetically far

#

Its a fun habit of mine

#

Just keeping in time

#

It's when I get bored I must rhyme

#

Sometimes it feels divine

vestal sluice
tough tundra
#

Welp looks like I gotta stop

#

Otherwise I'm gonna get popped

wispy grail
vestal sluice
#

Panda dissaproves

#

I would join in as asher but that's too much effort ><

wispy grail
vestal sluice
#

can we get lore on the best character in the game

#

asher's cat

tough tundra
#

I imagine they had more ideas intended for them

#

But ran out of time and couldn't implement any ideas

#

Maybe a story event

vestal sluice
#

saw the cat and immediately liked asher ngl

tough tundra
#

Or something small like befriend the kitty or pet them option

vestal sluice
#

the cat was apparently in the corner of the room where asher and grant died

tough tundra
#

Kind of like the squirt from bastion

vestal sluice
#

never noticed him though

noble portal
#

yeah it's in the foreground

tough tundra
#

There is a lot going on by then

vestal sluice
#

yeah

#

i was just surprised

tough tundra
#

Like hey they're dead oops

#

They drank the poison and made their way to the country

vestal sluice
#

what an amazing analogy

#

is that the right word?

tough tundra
#

Referring to which?

vestal sluice
#

the country

#

like

#

meant to represent afterlife and all that

tough tundra
#

Oh yeah

#

Since it always sounded like eternal sleep or rest

vestal sluice
#

^

#

i find it funny how a lot of my favourite characters from games are gay

#

Asher

#

Gregg

#

err

#

the list ends there

tough tundra
#

3 or 2 gays?

#

I'm guessing 2

vestal sluice
#

off the top of my head

#

2

#

nono

#

seperate games ><

#

i feel like that wasnt clear

tough tundra
#

Dark gay and who's gregg?

vestal sluice
#

Gregg lee from NITW

wispy grail
tough tundra
#

Dr. Samus must think I'm a bot or something

#

Maybe even an enigma

vestal sluice
#

I mean I'm pretty sure that Royce died

#

So

wispy grail
noble portal
#

either way, he won 😛

pseudo pulsar
#

nah

#

have a problem with that

#

when you die, you lose

#

that's it

#

he was curious about what it's like, sure, but he's not alive

#

and red is*

#

don't see that as winning

#

he didn't seem too happy about it either

#

don't mean to be rude or anything

vestal sluice
#

Red most definitely isn't alive

#

Unfortunately

cinder anvil
#

i listened to her sing just yesterday though

pseudo pulsar
#

yeah

#

wording was kind of weird, with what death even means in cloudbank, and also the events that happen after that fight

noble portal
#

no but he literally says in his dialogue "either way I win"

#

he's fine with Red winning

pseudo pulsar
#

he says that when he's expecting to not lose

noble portal
#

then he gets to see what the inside of the TRansistor is like

#

still 😛

pseudo pulsar
#

even if you could consider being killed a win, it's a different kind of win

noble portal
#

it's not liek Red knew him well enough to geat an earful if it turns out he's a sore loser XD

pseudo pulsar
#

just mean, i can say to my opponent "either way i win" but if i did, it's probably just to get inside their head

#

but i'm still trying to actually win

noble portal
#

you know, I don't know if Royce is really the type to play headgames with someone like that, I'm not sure if it'd even occur to him. He was probably serious.

pseudo pulsar
#

i see it more like an exaggeration

#

genuinely curious about it, but not actually willing to try it out

#

but, a bit more accepting if he did end up losing

calm jackal
#

he seemed pretty distraught about actually losing

wispy stratus
#

He didn't think it through until he had to actually go through with it

jolly radish
#

I think for Royce it could've been both, he seems pretty comfortable straddling the line of either/or in other capacities too

#

if Royce has anything it's an overabundance of curiosity... he saw the upside to losing the battle, which for him was getting to have that curiosity satisfied

#

but no matter how curious a person is, I think that doesn't mean they're not afraid of what's about to happen once it's really happening

#

though, interestingly... I think it was during the stream sgg did last fall--I remember Greg describing Royce's emotion in his final moments as sadness

#

over having lost the Transistor, and over knowing he'd never get to learn how things turned out

#

but to ARCCC and invis' points, yeah lmao I do think Royce is actually quite arrogant and prideful even if he's low key about it, so I could totally believe that he didn't really expect to lose

wispy stratus
#

he definitely has the whole "i'm smarter than all of you" thing going on

jolly radish
#

and like, let's be fair, look at how he uses the transistor versus how red uses it

slim skiff
#

I wish we were that cool with it

jolly radish
#

he knows how to use it in ways that make red's wielding of it seem very crude in comparison lmao

slim skiff
#

also, those animations are so clean

wispy stratus
#

they are

#

so lovely

jolly radish
#

like yeah, he totes probably expected to win, he was like "okay this woman can barely lift it, she's dragging it across the ground, I'm pretty sure I've got this"

slim skiff
#

the power of style

jolly radish
#

what a jerk

#

me: he's my favorite
also me: i hate him and he is terrible

slim skiff
#

sounds like perfect character design squirtdevious

jolly radish
#

camerata style is /chefkiss in general tbh

#

with the possible exception of asher's weird sleeves

#

and the literal target painted on royce's back I guess

noble portal
#

Lol

#

Somewhere in his dialogue Royce mentions the Transistor is “lighter than you might think”, which lends credence to my theory that it’s only as heavy as you think it is. Red saw its size and destructive power and assumed it was heavy, but Royce and Grant handle it like it’s next to weightless. Red figures it out right at the end.

noble portal
#

Also Royce’s last thought being sadness makes sense in a lot of ways too, not the least of which being that Red blatantly ignores a very reasonable final request of “ don’t let my work go to waste” 🤨

floral plank
#

I'm pretty sure Grant was never meant to have more appearances in the story. It really reflects his admin behaviour, staying in the background and pulling the strings seldom and subtle but effective. Royce and especially Asher could've done with a little more spotlight time. Royce spent most of his appearance filling the world lore, but not his own story.

full peak
#

!!! that s a really good take

noble portal
#

Clever fake-out, really. Grant has such a “final boss” look to him and was placed prominently in all the early-game shots of the Camerata. To not get to throw down with him prompted a kind of disappointment that I think was shared across player and protags

wintry verge
#

first time i got to "meet" grant & asher i was so mad bc i was expecting a cool fight and whatever

#

but then you remember what you hear in the ovc terminals and you're like "oh this isnt going to happen like that"

#

and when you let that sink in for a bit it just makes sense

#

kind of

drifting timber
#

yeah i was so pleasantly surprised when grant just WASN'T the final boss

#

like he's always so emphasized in those cutscenes where they mention the camerata and they just APPEAR ON SCREEN

#

so it was interesting to see them subvert my expectations like that

noble portal
#

Instead we get Royce “welcome to my doom fortress” Bracket

drifting timber
#

royce "not gonna get away with this" bracket

wintry verge
#

royce "im gonna have you walk around my room to build up tension before our final fight" bracket

vestal sluice
#

Royce "my voice makes you not want to kill me" Bracket

wintry verge
#

royce "i sound nice but i kinda really need to kill you now" bracket

drifting timber
#

royce "i win either way" bracket

wintry verge
#

royce: i win either way

#

royce when he loses: nO pLeAsE don'T bE GoNe Pleas,E?,,

drifting timber
#

see also: that part in the fight where he asks his transistor to charge faster

blissful blaze
#

au where asher's messages are all crytyped

wintry verge
#

gr,nannt..,. i thnkg hes not gon,na m,a,,ke it,,,

#

i cant crytype it looks bad

#

dsjfhsdjf i found a nightcore remix of in circles

drifting timber
#

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

#

horrible

calm jackal
#

ᴵ ˢᵉᵉ ʸᵒᵘ ˡᵒᵒᵏᶦⁿᵍ ᶠᵒʳ
ˢᵒᵐᵉᵒⁿᵉ ² ᵇˡᵃᵐᵉ

noble portal
#

Royce “wrong in the traditional/contemporary sense” Bracket

wintry verge
#

royce "how to get away with murder" bracket

#

(referring to that one ovc entry where he explains how to target people with the transistor)

tough tundra
#

quietly wheels away Boxer and Red's bodies

young yew
#

SVBDJFKBN:UIDHIDKN 😭

tough tundra
#

Plot twist: They quietly went to the country while Royce actually never fought Red and regains the Transistor that's why at the beginning of Recursion you hear him say the first line as a way of mocking her as she plays an endless cyclical simulation of her recent experience

#

Transistor meme: Hi welcome to the country

noble portal
#

Man I need to like... write more transistor fic

#

And actually finish it XD

tough tundra
#

I heard transistor fic

jaunty fable
#

late to the smash convo but the best part is

#

red in smash means that kirby will be able to turn into red

#

imagine it

noble portal
#

Omg Kirby with that flawless scarlet coif

#

And maybe a little feather collar/accents

#

and a tiny transistor you guyyyys

tough tundra
#

👀 👀 👀 👀 👀 👀

jaunty fable
spring plover
#

omg...

tough tundra
#

I NEED IT

noble portal
#

YAAS

wispy stratus
#

With this my life will be complete

primal glacier
#

"When you hi I hear silence"
"Every poyo a defiance"

wispy stratus
#

But HAAAIII won't save you

sturdy gale
#

when I read that I just hear Kirby’s voice cut in with red’s

tough tundra
#

So who's dedede? Grant?

#

That might make Asher a Waddle Dee

#

That would probably make Meta Knight Sybil

wintry verge
#

genius twist: sybil as a bayonetta echo fighter

noble portal
#

Ooh

tough tundra
#

Royce as a Red Echo fighter maybem

#

?

#

I just realized boxer as part of her attacks would be kind of cute

noble portal
#

Or her anything, really. Taunts, victory screen, animation going into her final smash

drifting timber
#

LOSING MY MIND BECAUSE I JUST NOTICED RED HUMS "PAPER BOATS" IN THE HUMMED VERSION OF "BLANK CANVAS"

#

dfjkfdsjkhljfk

#

this is what i get for playing transistor like four years too late lmao

noble portal
#

Just when you thought your feels were safe

tough tundra
#

Feels safe from transistor? Wack

jolly radish
rare moth
#

fhjfjfjfjfjh

wispy grail
#

The 2nd

stone shoal
#

hmmmm, Imma have to go with option A, it's just ever so closer to [math processing error] over option B's [math processing error]

shrewd root
#

Answer is definitely

-[Math Processing Error]
wintry verge
#

the first one bc it's visually closest to the error in the question ajfingerguns

floral plank
#

There are no numbers. *spoon bending*

#

That reminds me, it's a bit weird how nothing in Transistor... twists and bends? Like, that's the go-to "this reality is flexible", but in Transistor, that doesn't happen to anything, the buildings an dstuff remain static.

noble portal
#

I hadn’t really considered that but I don’t think that’s entirely the trope at play here... “flexibility” is not how the Process does its work, it’s mutability, which is a bit different. Things are un/made, rewritten, or re-skinned. Nothing “warps” because that’s not the logic behind it; it’s programming logic, not (soft?) human logic

#

When we think of something changeable, intuitively we think of something soft or “plastic” (as the adjective, not the material), but the Process’s machine logic is kind of... things are absolutes. They’re there or they’re not, they’re this or they’re that. There’s no “flex”

#

But that is a good observation

#

(I title this tiny essay “No, there really is no spoon”) XD

zinc stag
#

a good tiny essay

shrewd root
#

Good TED talk (Tiny Essay on Discord) friendly

floral plank
#

I love making absurd little statements that spark thoughtful analysis

noble portal
#

It’s my curse as a literature student XD

calm jackal
#

Lore alert: when red eats pizza, it bends downwards due to gravity

#

Wait no, I misread

lyric forge
#

maybe if we all kindly mail nintendo

#

they will put red in the game

#

and in turn supergiant will gain popularity

#

it's genuis

#

unlike my ability to spell

primal glacier
#

If only they were doing the poll again for dlc characters as a server we could have all pushed for red or someone else from supergiant

worldly osprey
#

the first thing i thought when i saw kirby in that wig is "omg RED CONFIRMED FOR SMASH DLC!"

#

so yeah

vestal sluice
#

real talk that would be sick

cobalt fjord
#

Real talk modding is a thing

#

^I would actually love to work with a group of people to mod Red into smash ultimate once modding gets to the point where it's reasonable

still zealot
#

Honestly same, though I only have basic coding experience...

cobalt fjord
#

I believe most of the work would actually be animation from what I know about how smash works

still zealot
#

true, which kinda rules me out 🤷

hardy gazelle
#

Hmmmm

upper portal
#

About a week ago, I had a dream that Transistor got adapted into a series, it was pretty neat

#

The first half of it focused on the Camerata and all the people who got absorbed into the Transistor, then the second half was pretty much the events of the game

lyric forge
#

that'd actually be pretty cool

#

I'd pay for it

noble portal
#

I'd throw money at that

tawny bear
#

Early Access players who also played transistor, is hades similar to transistor or completely different?? Gameplay wise

rare moth
#

very different

#

theres no turm()

#

i would say its most similar to bastion gameplaywise!

tawny bear
#

I see. I never played bastion unfortunately. Thanks!!

inland mirage
#

basically it's turn()less transistor with more hack n slash

fading fiber
#

I also felt it had a better story

topaz glen
#

It’s similar to transistor in how fast paced the combat is, bastion is a little slower

still zealot
#

ironic that the game where a pause button is built-in has the faster combat 😅

upbeat sky
#

Ever play a Turn()less run before?

noble portal
#

Sounds like a nightmare

upbeat sky
#

I've never done it myself

#

Someone around here must've done it before though

noble portal
#

Friend of mine went most of the way through the game without Turn iirc, only used it for bosses bc he kept forgetting it existed?

#

And there’s a mod that makes most things out of turn as well

calm jackal
#

Out of turn is very possible

#

There's a lot of builds that work without turn

#

I always play without emergency turn, keeps me on my toes

frail fulcrum
#

Are there many mods for transistor? I've never heard of any till now

noble portal
#

I only know of the one, Transition

#

And I’m not sure how kosher discussing mods on the official server is 🤭

spring plover
#

i think the official policy is "it's fine as long as it's not being sold for money or advertised as being a real part of the real game"

#

otherwise, mods are basically fanart / fan projects

#

obviously anything malicious or dangerous is also discouraged

noble portal
#

Fair enough

#

But yeah I only know about Transition and even then not much about it

#

I’d love a simple audio mod to replace Boxer’s dialogue with more Royce lines in recursion but y’know

molten drift
#

Changing the subject,

rare moth
#

hey, it sounds like your speculation of what royce and asher do on their own time may not be suitable for this server !

modern quiver
#

Fan fiction channel time

rare moth
#

the issue is not fan fiction, the issue is sexual content

modern quiver
#

It was a joke

#

But ok

rare moth
#

oh, okay

modern quiver
#

Anyway

#

Transistor is my favorite of their games how about you?

tepid charm
#

kam chaos, you just answered that the question is not suitable for the server 'cause you can't tell who would be who

rare moth
#

that's...not why

spring plover
#

It's in our rules, we're doing our job

#

There are plenty of other places where you can have those conversations

rare moth
#

i answered it because this isa server that doesnt allow sexual talk of that sort.

spring plover
#

DMs, Reddit, Tumblr...write your own fic if you want to!

#

Just not here

rare moth
#

this just isnt the place for it is all yeah

tepid charm
#

it was just a joke, btw

spring plover
#

I mean, I understand, but we really can't have that stuff here, sorry ^^;

tepid charm
#

ok, np 👌

spring plover
#

wrt alpha's comment, Transistor is also my favorite SGG game!

#

By far my favorite art style of the three finished games, and I'm glad to see Hades going back to that kind of...dramatic lighting and such

#

It was my introduction to SGG's work so maybe I'm biased, haha

lyric forge
#

god idk how transistor caught me so hard

#

literally my phone and laptop bgs are all transistor

#

I've bought the game for laptop and switch like damn how did yall get me so hard

#

and the music is beautiful deiblush

#

dang I should buy it again for ps4 blobultrathink

pulsar lily
#

I don't have merch but I got the ps4 theme

lyric forge
#

my friend got me the red figurine for christmas 😭

#

also wow i have the sword bf usb stick dftsdsikghj

sturdy gale
#

since we got the definitive answer to where cloudbank is located I can’t stop thinking of the mbmbam amelie bit but with red

languid trail
#

I read bgs as bags and I was like THERE ARE BAGS??????!

noble portal
#

Wait where IS Cloudbank located???

jaunty fable
#

IN AN EGG BABEY!!!!!

#

cloudbank is stored..... in the egg!!!

full peak
#

in the world record egg of instagram ?!?!?!?!

wintry verge
#

if you break the egg the entire cast of transistor bursts out of it and they end up in hell

calm jackal
#

asher would probably be all dramatic and say something like "this is an improvement over where we were before tbh"

#

imagine all the hades characters dressed by darzi

noble portal
#

Yes

topaz glen
#

When did we find out where cloudbank is? And where is it?

calm jackal
#

in #ask-supergiant , someone answered that the egg in hades contains cloudbank

#

almost certainly a joke

noble portal
#

O

fickle echo
elfin furnace
#

iS tHiS aN uNdErTaLe ReFeReNcE

rare moth
#

looks like a wip to me!

sturdy gale
#

oh DANG it’s super good already tho

wintry verge
#

Ok so royce bracket transistor would totally wear airpods send message

#

To elaborate on that: the little process cells kinda look like airpods

calm jackal
#

when he talks about how he was guided to the transistor, what he means is that he shoved cells in his ears

brittle sage
#

wow...really makes you think

jolly radish
#

this is the content this channel exists for

strong magnet
#

royce, red is coming. oh my god he has airpods in. he can’t hear us. oh my go

noble portal
#

I politely disagree, I think Royce is a comically-oversized-headphones kind of guy. Gotta get that cushy noise-cancelling

wintry verge
#

nah he'd def prefer something sleek and relatively simple

languid flume
#

royce wears the headphones with the cat ears on

#

i dont take criticism

young cedar
#

I would too

calm jackal
#

...now im imagining the process but with cat ears

young cedar
#

do they make cat ears you can add to existing headphones

#

because the headphones I use are extremely balanced headphones meant for mixing

languid flume
#

razer does

young cedar
#

and the ones already with cat ears are not meant for that

wintry verge
#

when evewything changes... nyothing changes >:3c

calm jackal
#

wait a minute

#

youngladys already have cat ears

#

the catgirls have been here the whole time

languid flume
#

we awent getting awway wiv dis wed... awe we >:3