#12-4 ijn fleet help
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should absolutely demolish 12-4
Mob fleet dies prematurely
and thankfully 12-4 has oil cap so can easily use vanguard for help
Should I be less exp greedy and use a super strong frontline to help the mob fleet out?
get one vanguard with good AA and good fighters and there should be no issue
Got anyone that can replace fusou
main fleet will most likely still get MVP
is your shinano 3m capped 
idk kii-taihoe-shouhou + 3 strong vanguards should be a breeze
125 her
I'm using much worse stuff rn without issues
What vanguard ships you got

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for the most part, just using ships you want to level
The options

What’s the vanguard on the two fleets your using for w12
see yea
just do like heinrich/takao + suzu sirius
Ijn van tend to have shit aa
swap shima and duca or stuff like that
no point in using a full IJN vanguard anyways
or shima in boss fleet and any strong AA into mob
besides leveling
Cheshire in mob

Yeah, they're the few non 120s I have that can get exp
haha yea
Alright, giving it another whirl with changes
and if it still doesn't work it might be a severe gear issue, albeit I doubt that
They have all my best gear equipped atm
Granted, Shouhou and Taihou's skills are level 1 still
So might contribute
well, as long as you know what best gear actually is it's good
skills obviously are a drawback, but you can't really do anything about it atm
I just use this to inform gear choices:
https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
You’ll be fine then
Swapping Sirius in did the trick
I also swapped to circle defense for AA
Now to see if boss fleet can handle it
planes just whittled you down without decent AA/planes
yea sirius has pretty good AA
Boss fleet did good
Duca got out with just a sliver so maybe I need to give her some hyper tank
Threw ten more levels on her too just to be safe
gear's fine. gun is budget but does the trick. boss fleet dmg is just a bit anemic so your vanguards can't really outtank it
my 12-4 boss farm fleet gets pummeled pretty heavily as well, despite having a 110/120 ancho and ägir. it's just normal



