Hello, I am a returning player after about 2 yrs and could use some help creating fleets. I have 2 main objectives. Clearing the champaign and Operation Siren.
Here is what I am currently working with:
#Returning Player needs help with fleet building.
cerulean vigil
where are you in campaign
vivid junco
12-4
cerulean vigil
opsi mob
hood (flag) - unicorn - volga/indep
roon - rikka - kronshtadt
bb
fdg (flag) - bismarck zwei - warspite
agir - helena - otto
someone else can probably suggest a better fleet, but thats what i got
do you have all of the rikka event gear?
vivid junco
I do not, I was only around for the last 3 days of that event
cerulean vigil
then swap rikka for someone else
vivid junco
I have the Buster Borr and Sky Vitter for event weapons on Rikka
civic merlin
Skip FdG in boss fleet. Pick instead Monarch. I hope you have her augment? So smth BisZ, Monarch, Hood (let it be). You can use FdG or UvH for mobs. Can't see if UvH mlb. Best options Unicorn, UvH (not flag position), Independence/Perseus
vivid junco
I am currently at 12-4, but if this works for 12-4 and 13 then I'll do it
civic merlin
Campaign:
mob: Unicorn, FdG (flag), Perseus\Independence + Kron, Z23, Rikka (imo stay at w12-4 and mlb and level up Kurumi and after swap Rikka)
boss: Warspite, BisZ (flag), Monarch + Agir, Helena, SanD
smthlike that
if you just farm event coins you can get mlb Kurumi just without 1 SR bulin
and get your main ships at least at 110-115 lvl for w13-w14
vivid junco
yeah, I'm working on farming that now. I feel like I'm a little slow... but I have a good ship in the vanguard and main with the other 4 slots being ships I'm working on leveling and Kurumi in the 4th fleet for more of her currency.
civic merlin
another option
mob: Unicorn, Monarch, UvH + same vang
boss: Warspite,BisZ + 1 BB.
UvH good ship but she want be off-flag, and never combine with FdG cuz they scam each other in mob fleet. They both good for mobs and never synch for boss so usually they stay out boss.
vivid junco
ah ok, that make sense
well, lets give it a try
What do people usually do to farm affinity/lvls on ships nowadays?
So, why did we choose those particular ships?
civic merlin
What do people usually do to farm affinity/lvls on ships nowadays?
w12-1 - exp, w12-4 - gold
civic merlin
So, why did we choose those particular ships?
campaign needs at least 1 bb as flag, especially for w14 where a lot of suicided ships. FdG have good potential vs that. w13 expected good AA. You have not much options for vanguard. So I choose best what you have. In futture I will swp Z23 for smthing better
vivid junco
alright, so boss fleet vanguard failed. The mob fleet cleaned up though
civic merlin
If get perma UR choice pick up Musashi he will swap FdG when mlb in some future. BisZ good against bosses as black hole slow but you don't have much option other BBs to pair with her
vivid junco
that being said, I did forget to make sure they all had gear
vivid junco
Agir I just finished dev on recently, so I had nothing on her
What type of gun should she have?
AP, HE, or High Caliber?
civic merlin
Triple 305mm (SK C/39 Prototype) usually this
do you have this Triple 305mm (12"/50 Mk 8)?
civic merlin
this
vivid junco
civic merlin
EVA, HP, purple mag torps for synch with BBs main guns
vivid junco
oh, so gold one is too good
civic merlin
too slow
vivid junco
I have quad and quint purple torps
civic merlin
shee need hit enemy so mag torps, gold have long cdr so purple triple be better
show BBs main gun on BisZ
vivid junco
vivid junco
secondary gun options
vivid junco
I think this is the closest I can get
civic merlin
beeter. show aux options
scip radar. maybe you have smh better
and show BB main gun options
civic merlin
can you buy another Type 1 Armor Piercing Shell?
here read this https://suchiguma.github.io/miniguides/quick-gear-guide/
vivid junco
not atm, I'm 160 short
civic merlin
smth like this or better according to guide
ask @Mori when he will be online. Sorry need to go
for SanD second slot or Rudder
Wrong augment on Monarch. Pick her own
vivid junco
I need more gold to make the augments
civic merlin
Ok. Then use sword
vivid junco
alright, ty for your help
civic merlin
Gl
steel flower
what the actual fuck
vivid junco
???
vivid junco
oh no
steel flower
like
this advice he gave isn't completely terrible
but there's some pretty rookie/basic mistakes made
that indicate he doesn't actually know wtf he's talking about
so is this all of your ships?
vivid junco
no... not in the slightest
steel flower
could you post all of the SRs then
vivid junco
steel flower
Kazagumo and the Date a Live vanguards would some of the more notable ships to level up that you haven't already
though since you already have a selection of good vanguards already leveled it'd probably just be Tohka you'd level up
vivid junco
Just got Kazagumo today from the shop
steel flower
and Eldridge and Essex only if you have their retrofit items
vivid junco
And Tohka has been pissing me off >.> I'm trying to get the other DAL units and she keeps popping up
steel flower
saves you bullins at least
vivid junco
true, but I'd like to get one of each of the other ones as well. I already scrapped an extra Tohka
steel flower
no I get you
steel flower
Campaign:
mob: Unicorn, FdG (flag), Perseus\Independence + Kron, Z23, Rikka (imo...
oh and no you would not want to youse this btw for W13
you'd die
vivid junco
I do not have eldridge or essex retrofit items
steel flower
rip
vivid junco
are they items I can still get or were they special events and haven't been perminantly added yet?
steel flower
the latter
vivid junco
damn, rip me
steel flower
oh well
anyway, for pushing W13
something more sensible would be
Mob: Saratoga retrofit/Volga, Independence, Unicorn, Tohka, Rikka(only if you have all of her exclusive gear), Roon
Boss: Bismarck Zwei, UvH, Enterprise, Kornshtadt, Helena, San Diego
make sure everyone is at least level 120 and their skills are all maxed, and gear at +10
vivid junco
I only have 2 pieces of her exclusive gear, came back to the game with 3 days left in that event and my ships were not anywhere near what they are now...
steel flower
ah
rip
she's really mediocre without them
so you'll want to get her replaced then
vivid junco
steel flower
either Kurumi or the Yamai sisters would be an excellent upgrade
vivid junco
she was using a triple 155, but that got moved to a BB
would this also work for 12-4
?
vivid junco
I was talking about the fleet for w13, will it work for 12-4?
vivid junco
ah, ok then
steel flower
Once you get the map down to safe it's especially easy to farm
steel flower
Saratoga
vivid junco
ok, then now I just need to get the right gear and levels on the two DAL
and level skills
steel flower
and limit break them
vivid junco
which means... I need more gold \o/
Now, why are these ships chosen? If you don't mind me asking
steel flower
you mean all the ships?
vivid junco
for the fleets
Like, I know Unicorn is there for her healing
but I don't know why Independence or Saratoga are good
steel flower
Unicorn: best healer in the game
Independence: one of the strongest mobbing CVs in the game with good in fleet and cross fleet buffs, AA, and damage
Saratoga: Solid mobbing CV that you already have leveled
Tohka: one of your tankiest and the highest dealing vanguard ship you have roght now
Kurumi: really good damage, tankiness, and some utility that might be useful later down the line
Roon: just solid damage, one of the best you have vanguard wise
Bismarck Zwei: teh best BB you have by a wide margin and arguably your highest damage main fleet period
UvH: really good BB that's already leveled
Enterprise: one of your best CVs for damage and she's already leveled
Kronshtadt: really tanky and decent damage
Helena: best debuffer for bosses in the game if a bit inconsistent
San Diego: really good damage and the best ship for AA you have right now
and I disagree with the earlier reccomendations of running 3 battleships because that just kills your recon and ACV values
do note some of these ships really want their unique augments to unlock their full potential
namely Independence, Sandy, Roon, Tohka and Kurumi
vivid junco
I almost have Kurumi's augment
just a little more farming there
well then... I need ~50k to get them mlb and the unique augments
steel flower
yeah just take your time
you have officially reached the best farming spot in the game
so there's no rush to push W13
steel flower
get it down to safe first and you'll be fine
use this to get it down to safe
Mob: Saratoga, Unicorn, Independene, Roon, Z23, Belfast
Boss: Warspite, UvH, Enterprise, Kronshtadt, Helena, San Diego
vivid junco
Would BisZ not be fine instead of Warspite for the boss fleet?
steel flower
Would BisZ not be fine instead of Warspite for the boss fleet?
she would
but she's also massively underleveled which cuts down on her damage by a decent bit \
vivid junco
fair
clears great with the setup, leaving BisZ in the boss fleet.
Figured this would help her get exp
steel flower
if you really want to put XP on her put her in the mob fleet
they're easier and you get more XP per entry
steel flower
yes
vivid junco
👍 Thanks for your help btw. I really appreciate it
steel flower
no problem
vivid junco
I have about a week to get the colab stuff?
steel flower
a week yeah
vivid junco
and OpSi resets on monday?
steel flower
yes
vivid junco
hmm... then I think I will just avoid OpSi until reset and work on the event and farming gold on 12-4
at which point... I will probably make another thread for help there xD because I am clueless for OpSi
steel flower
just use your current fleets for OpSi for now
vivid junco
and just throw ships into the extra 2 fleets?
steel flower
yep
vivid junco
ok, I can manage that. Then I just want to clear each area once?
vivid junco
nods everything nods
everything is everything, but it is vague and leaves me not knowing what to do lol
steel flower
bascually
do all the missions
clear all the strongholds, normal arbiter, explorable mode, and Abyssals if yiu can do them
basically by the end the map should be completely blue with no notifications left
vivid junco
fair. I still don't think I will be able to get around to doing much of it before reset though. Unless it is a higher priority than the colab event.
steel flower
I wouldn't say it is
civic merlin
Yeah. Saratoga against airplane hell chapter. Good point. Sarcasm. UvH against opsi bosses. 
anyway agreed with Tohka and Kurumi. mlb them and they'll change some your vanguards. probably mob fleet
steel flower
Yeah. Saratoga against airplane hell chapter. Good point. ~~Sarcasm~~. UvH again...
And what's wrong with either
In said context
civic merlin
He wants w13-w14 and opsi part. Saratoga retro nice ship behind w13 and opsi but she's using slow DB ships. You recommend same fleet for opsi. Where UvH on bosses makes fight almost unplayable according to her fast main gun skill. Btw investing resources for Saratoga at this level gameplay is unnecessary. He still much cheaper and useful variants
That's I recommended Monarch for her tech points and good synergy with other standards BBs
steel flower
What
civic merlin
In opsi and w13-w14 that will be optimal cheap way until he find much better options
steel flower
First off, what the fuck makes "UvH" unplayable against OpSi bosses
civic merlin
What
Better you tell him about gears. As what I saw on BisZ he need much help where at that time I don't have a time too explain
Between UvH and FdG second will be best option in general use
steel flower
again what
and what do you mean "cheaper"
they don't have the fucking AA to safely run a battleship in W13 mobs
and they're already in fucking W12, resources are not going to be that tight
your logic is just all over the fucking place
civic merlin
And Saratoga have? WHAT?
steel flower
excellent staggered damage
as well as being a CV which inproves ACV and recon values
which is rather useful to have in a plane heavy world
civic merlin
I know you madkiddo but be posting with ppl who you don't know. Or ur parents give you bad attitude?
He has Unicorn and Independence but SVs have at this tech level bad AA defense
steel flower
I'm pissed off because you clearly know jack shit about the game yet you consistently try and give advice about it
civic merlin
I'm pissed off because you clearly know jack shit about the game yet you consist...
So keep it by own
steel flower
and then someone else who actually does know about the game has to correct all of your bad advice
civic merlin
Same as yours
steel flower
what
the purpose of this channel is to HELP people and spreading misinformation about the game could very well be considered the bloody opposite of that
and I'm starting to suspect English is not your native tongue, given the poor construction of your sentences which makes the already bad advice even more atrocious.
civic merlin
Seems good attitude is not your strong side. Please keep you personal thoughts out of this channel. Thx
steel flower
If you would give advice that's actually good or leave it to someone who actually knows what they're talking about we would not even be having this conversation in the first place, yet you don't.
Because your advice, is just objectively shit.
And I've seen enough of it to say with certainty.
vivid junco
Should I be attempting Yuudachi Meta fights? or is it too late to try and acquire her?
civic merlin
You need 25k points to get all copies for mlb. Avg ~860 points per day. So 29 days to finish. 12 days left. I doubt that you can get all copies
vivid junco
mmhmm, yeah probably not then
cerulean vigil
you might as well do what you can to get the milestone stuff
meta ships dont take up dock space, so even if you get her and cant max limit break her, shes not wasting a slot
vivid junco
I might need some help with gear now. I also am having trouble with 12-4 hard. need more TRP for the hard version of the mission so I cannot take in my current fleet set-up
cerulean vigil
replace a toolbox with a trp stat stick