i need help
#Fleet build help for W14
glad sigil
can i ask where is laff2 and guam 
?
glad sigil
u can use shinano anchorage agir unzen simakaze fdg sandy mamagi uni
u will be missing another BB for the boss fleet so most likely u will be using uvh
sinano mamagi uvh
agir/anchorage unzen something
granite flare
sinano mamagi uvh
agir/anchorage unzen something
Mob fleet ?
granite flare
like f4u sir ?
granite flare
oh okay
mob
uni-fdg-aquila
anchorage -yuudachi - sandy
boss
shinano - amagicv - uvh
agir - shima - unzen
can i do like this sir ?
glad sigil
yeah it should be very fine as long as they are properly geared
granite flare
@glad sigil hello sir
I have tried the fleet you recommended earlier, on 14-3 I had a little problem where when the mob fleet ran out of ammo , many enemy ships escaped into the main fleet.
glad sigil
are they properly geared ?
14-3 is when u want to have the asw and interception guns for the subs and ramming boats
granite flare
are they properly geared ?
not all, because I also use good gear on the fleet boss
glad sigil
there is a minimum level of gear that u want to be using in order to do 14-3 onward
stop leveling u101 and replace with u 47
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
can u screen shot the depot with the equipped toggled on ?
granite flare
wait a moment there was a change for farming for a while
I'm a little embarrassed, because almost all of them are not good.
glad sigil
the gearing is kinda questionable yes
can u go to the craftable section and show me the SR gear that u can make ?
in the depot
mainly the AA guns and rudder
this is the rudder
granite flare
this is the rudder
for the rudder I lack the material
for aa nothing is enough to make
glad sigil
ok
glad sigil
can u get this item from the collection ?
glad sigil
so there is no hope i can finish 14-3 with 3 star ?
the aim is to clear the map
3☆ isn't important
as long as u can clear the map u can reduce its threat level to 0 and it will become 10x easier
then u can 3☆ if u want the gems
granite flare
can u get this item from the collection ?
how sir ?
glad sigil
did u get it ?
granite flare
not yet sir
glad sigil
is it hard to get 
?
glad sigil
ok do it asap
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
this is how the mob fleet should look like
the aux plane on uni u get with core data
if u have it in the depot no need to get it again
so check first
also make sure u have maxed skills on all of these ships
fdg is flag
shima in the middle
granite flare
done sir
glad sigil
check ur skills and this should be fine
i think
do u know how to clear the map at the start ?
granite flare
do u know how to clear the map at the start ?
no sir 
glad sigil
u first try to get to the lighthouse at the bottom right
granite flare
oh i do it sir and then go get the flare ammo right ?
glad sigil
try to clear the 3 â–² when u have ammo
and leave the weakest fleet 2 or 1 â–² when u are out of ammo
glad sigil
oh i do it sir and then go get the flare ammo right ?
i was told to ignore it i think it is useless
glad sigil
@rose fable
while we are in the uvh discussion
is this a good approach ?
rose fable
Yuudachi is a bit sus
glad sigil
my original thought was sima on boss and yuudachi on mob
rose fable
Also swap AA between agir and shima
And anchorage and yuudachi
granite flare
@glad sigil
im already clear the 14-3 sir , how about 14-4 sir ?
rose fable
my original thought was sima on boss and yuudachi on mob
I would avoid non tanky DD in 14 boss
And u dont need asw on boss
glad sigil
I would avoid non tanky DD in 14 boss
And u dont need asw on boss
did u see the dock 
?
rose fable
Looking now 
glad sigil
i thought about cheshire too but i said that we aren't in need for any of her capabilities in this chapter so i opted for more damage
rose fable
Yeah more dmg is better I think
Tbh I am not very experienced in ch14
Can try like this
Or maybe we give him the cheeky special
Anchorage unzen agir for boss vanguard
And sandy, shimakaze scylla/cheshire? For mob?
@cosmic hamlet elp pls 
Oh and btw 155kai for bb aux guns
glad sigil
well the cvl do look to be cracked to keep the mob vanguards alive no matter what u put in there
rose fable
Better than what is on already
glad sigil
Oh and btw 155kai for bb aux guns
i put the best gear it looks like he doesn't play opsi
rose fable
glad sigil
nor does research
rose fable
Well with fdg and uvh guess it is possible it works like this
glad sigil
the neptune gun i think was old or i don't know from where he grabbed it
rose fable
Yeah prolly old research
glad sigil
i learned the uvh fdg interaction from pilica
cosmic hamlet
what failed
glad sigil
nothing yet
cosmic hamlet
glad sigil
he said that he cleared 14-3 now and askin about 14-4
rose fable
I was a bit 
about the boss van poi 
cosmic hamlet
well her gun is def sus
rose fable
I think we have gear issue 
glad sigil
yeah aside from the core data shop gear everything else is kinda on the poverty domain
cosmic hamlet
i mean just giv her a twin 100
glad sigil
faer said that nerfing the mob vanguards for the boss
rose fable
Well I said can try like this as well
But poi needs more hp not the asw aux
cosmic hamlet
also why is she carrying asw 
glad sigil
there aren't subs ?
rose fable
Only recon nodes have them
cosmic hamlet
only in recon nodes
glad sigil
wait really
rose fable
@granite flare
Hey
So change the second aux gear on yuudachi
And give her something with 500 hp
Or another toolkit
granite flare
okay sir
rose fable
Try like this and u should be fine
Use submarines on boss node
And your BB aux gun is not the best
But if it works and u dont have alternatives not much we can do
Let us know what fails if it does
Look at the screen 
Use submarine on out of ammo nodes as well not just boss
But call them a bit late so they dont die
For 2nd or 3rd waves
glad sigil
the TB distribution is good ?
granite flare
Use submarine on out of ammo nodes as well not just boss
But call them a bit lat...
okay i wil try it
rose fable
Boss could use more stagger
But overall it is fine
rose fable
okay i wil try it
Do u have another beacon (the purple thing on unicorn) to give to amagi?
rose fable
is there a reason to stagger the boss ?
Stagger always good
Means u kill stuff faster
Otherwise u have downtime and enemy can shoot u
glad sigil
do u want shinano to fire first or mamagi ?
granite flare
Do u have another beacon (the purple thing on unicorn) to give to amagi?
no sir
granite flare
u bought this from the shop this month ?
yes sir
glad sigil
Swap shinano second TB with amagi first TB
i m getting confused here
they are using the same plane types there
fighter DB TB
rose fable
Oh my bad I thought the first plane was TB not fighter
Sry
Just swapping the TB is good I think since breg is faster than cuda
glad sigil
it gave this timer
rose fable
Yeah so very minor but oh well
glad sigil
i wanted more damage because of shinano's plane count
glad sigil
no i just assumed it is hard to get it now
rose fable
And like neko said
Open some boxes for twin100 dd gun for yuudachi
Can u screenshot it for him
I am not on pc so hard rn
glad sigil
he has so many of these
rose fable
no i just assumed it is hard to get it now
He might have done pr3 research and has some prints anyway u never know
rose fable
he has so many of these <:DunktsukiStare:661087783619788812>
Yeah that is better than the purple gun at least
rose fable
@granite flare update the gear like this
granite flare
okay sir
rose fable
Oh also he can buy the elite manjuu abdou
To put on shinano
Even if he bought beacon this month
glad sigil
yeah i thought about it but i said that being slow in a boss fight doesn't seem ideal
the skills don't get considered in neko's tool
migurdia do u have enough cores for that manjuu on shinano ?
glad sigil
go to the inventory and search for the combat data items and analyze them all
also can u show which gear prints do u have there
these are the combat data that u can analyze
granite flare
go to the inventory and search for the combat data items and analyze them all
where ?
i cant find it
glad sigil
we get it usually from some missions the beginner rewards and the pack that comes every 2 months
granite flare
this sir ??
granite flare
done sir
glad sigil
back to the protocore shop and tell me how much u have now
granite flare
3736
glad sigil
@rose fable there is a potential gear improve here
if u are still around
granite flare
glad sigil
yeah i know that u didn't touch the research stuff
granite flare
because i dont how to use it
glad sigil
out of these the most important ones are the middle one
tenrai
and the last one 457mm geargia gun
but 3700 can't get u both
unless u have prints for them already
granite flare
is can
glad sigil
to check how many u have u go to the depot
granite flare
457mm i have 28piece
glad sigil
craft and filter by ur
granite flare
okay
granite flare
glad sigil
@cosmic hamlet what do u think in this situation ?
i thought about a georgia gun for uvh
or fdg
k looks like the bros are gone
granite flare
glad sigil
for now what u do is to go to the bottom of the protocore shop and buy the series III prints
granite flare
buy all sir ?
glad sigil
all 20 yes
when u tap on it u see this gun
do u have by any chance any prints in the crafting section for it
granite flare
done sir
glad sigil
this is its name
check in the depot
since u have so many prints for the georgia gun i think u will have the prints for this champy gun
go to filter and sort by SR
granite flare
granite flare
done sir
glad sigil
on uvh
now it is a choice between the georgia gun for fdg or a tenrai for amagi
so imo this is how we should deal with it
go like this
then if u have issues with the mobbing team not doing enough damage
u get 22 more georgia gun prints
if u the mobbing team is doing fine and u feel that it doesn't need any help u get the tenrai
i mean the remaining 43 prints
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
one more advice
do not randomly go above +10 since the golden plates are kinda valuable
the UR gear is very expensive to upgrade that is why choosing on what to spend on is very important
glad sigil
do u have enough golden main gun plates ?
granite flare
wait
granite flare
0 sir
glad sigil
from the milestones in events
like this current raid event
also in the guild shop u can choose 10 plates per 3 dayss
in the middle section of the shop under the merit
these are selectors too
granite flare
owh my mistake sir i already use it to up admiralty
glad sigil
admiralty is a ship no ?
glad sigil
oh the vanguard aux
yeah it is fine that is a good use
but remember that the ur gear is very expensive
it costs 3x the amount of the SR
and these plates need some active playing to be able to maintain their income
mainly opsi
granite flare
I will try to play more often this year
glad sigil
opsi shop has many of them reset every month
and the daily missions are just chances with the cat nodes and other content in there like abyssals and strongholds
glad sigil
done
rose fable
And maybe tenrai
glad sigil
yeah i told him to try it like this first
then we can adjust which fleet needs more help
i wanted to +13 the champy gun that is why this plate discussion
he has 32 plates
rose fable
Dont worry about +13 yet
Shouldn’t matter much for campaign tbh
Just needs to do research and opsi more
rose fable
Very solid and should work
Otherwise better gear is needed
So with time it will get better
rose fable
Well the gear is less than ideal so there is a chance
And I dont know if the sub fleet is levelled or not
granite flare
the subs are just there
lvl 96 i think
and the gear is abnormal sir
glad sigil
sub aux is the one that needs time
because it is from the core data
well the torp are from the raid too but
just use ur best cats
do u know what are the good cats and their talents and how to level up their skills
and their positioning ?
granite flare
only 1 cat i see have good talent sir
glad sigil
show it plz
glad sigil
what is the name of this cat ?
granite flare
oscar sir
granite flare
how about this sir ?
glad sigil
mountain ace and flame is a nice combination overall
put this bisha in the second slot of the mobbing fleet
the sakura skill won't benefit anyone but shima but it is the least useful one
or if u want u can use it for the bossing fleet
@rose fable do u think using this bisha in the staff position better than using it in the mobbing fleet
i thought about the oscar more
the bossing fleet has 4 sakura ships that is why
granite flare
how see the cat good or not sir ?
glad sigil
u open its talent and look
that bisha is very good as it seems
do u know how to level up their skills ?
granite flare
i dont know sir
rose fable
<@1035683277685674054> do u think using this bisha in the staff position better ...
I think mobbing prefers sth with flame for the out of ammo nodes if he has it
Otherwise whatever is fine
granite flare
this athena sir
rose fable
<@1035683277685674054> do u think using this bisha in the staff position better ...
Oscar is fine for the boss
glad sigil
i dont know sir
u level the skills by feeding bad duplicates to the cat
so for the bisha u want bad bisha and use them to upgrade the good one
glad sigil
Oscar is fine for the boss
the bisha and oscar will have a competition over the staff slot
skills don't go over lvl 3
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
i think lvl 2 only needs 1 dupe and it is fine
rose fable
the bisha and oscar will have a competition over the staff slot <:DunktsukiStare...
dont worry about skills that much tbh
oscar is better staff I think
the preload might help
so just put oscar in boss
and his mob is strong so shouldnt worry too much
actually the preload wont even work on boss node 
but the mountain talent is good
glad sigil
mountain flame ace is kinda 
glad sigil
rose fable
yeah that os soulful not flame
glad sigil
oh
flame is rainbow
no wonder i never got that skill
so use the bisha on the left slot and the oscar on the right slot
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
the mob fleet just will deal with the thing even without cats 
rose fable
if it works it works
let us know if u struggle
but overall dont slack on operation siren and research
most good gear is from there
and gold plates
and it doesnt take too long if u learn how to do it and get into the habit each month
https://samheart564.github.io/ECGC/research#research_academy
read this when u can
glad sigil
and it doesnt take too long if u learn how to do it and get into the habit each ...
unless someone i know very much
granite flare
let us know if u struggle
ye , thanks for the help
To be honest, I never active play op siren
rose fable
u can buy the oil logger each month
costs 5k oil and lets u auto all the zones
and late in the month u can also auto all the yellow chests
and the red bosses arent that hard and take 30-60 mins per month
and u can auto the strongholds (red waves)
so only need to login every 1-2 days and do your opsi missions
rly easy when u know how to
glad sigil
the goal of opsi is to have better gear to do the campaign
rose fable
have you cleared the opsi story yet?
glad sigil
u will see the story chapters
granite flare
stucking 3-3 sir
glad sigil
do it now
glad sigil
which fleet
granite flare
i dont know sir , i use all random ship
rose fable
use the 2 fleets like u have already
rose fable
the chapter 14 fleets
and put whatever u have levelled in fleet 3 and fleet 4
rose fable
faer he has impla i think he can do a cv fleet and a mobbing one <:NagaThonk:721...
no need
just clear story with mob and boss
granite flare
okay sir
rose fable
u have 4 days left
rose fable
because my holiday is 1 day left
maybe
just follow the missions and try and finish chapter 4
granite flare
rose fable
no need to worry about items
click the information here
and it should show u missions
u need to finish chapter 4
granite flare
okay sir
glad sigil
oh it was storage for opsi
granite flare
sir @glad sigil i already finish chapter 4 and clear zone with yellow & red chest so what next ?
glad sigil
always go to information and check the next step
granite flare
like just follow next mission sir ?
glad sigil
yeah it should be the chapter 5 the last one