Ch 12 - 4 Help | Azur Lane Official | Page 1

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 1:58 AM

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vanguard keeps dying in boss fight, any help on how I should fix that?

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Which fleet is your boss, fleet, and where is your third vanguard unit for fleet 2?

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Vanguard dying in 12-4 on the boss generally means you are lacking in damage and so the fight is taking too long.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:01 AM

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this is the boss fleet

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this is what I use for Mob

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:01 AM

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Are you clearing initially on lethal?

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:02 AM

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I havent beaten 12-4 yet im on 80% completion

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my vanguard dies pretty fast

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:03 AM

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Your BB should be flag. Screenshot your gears on your ships and post them here. The fleet comp you have isn't very good but their levels alone should be enough if you have decent gear on them.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:04 AM

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is there a way to see the whole fleets gear?

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:05 AM

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Unfortunately not, you have to go ship by ship. That one ship alone tells me gear is likely an issue on all your ships though, that mg is very bad.

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https://slaimuda.github.io/ectl/#/home
You can refer to this for basic gearing. 12-4 boss has medium armor, so you want a gun that does good damage to medium,.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:05 AM

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these are all my MG

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dont really have much sadly

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:07 AM

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Those purple triple 406

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are still better than the gun you currently have

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:07 AM

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really?

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thats crazy

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Ill switch them out

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:07 AM

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As for Musashi, she will want this gun
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Twin_410mm_(3rd_Year_Type)#Type_3-0

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Twin 410mm (3rd Year Type)

Sakura Empire BB Gun

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:08 AM

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oh so I can get her ability req met

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:08 AM

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Yes.

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What's your equipment on graf?

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:08 AM

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should I switch to helldivers

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:09 AM

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Yep, big issues there. That fighter should never be used, the BTDs are inferior to helldivers.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:09 AM

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I was using the KMS fighter for grafs ability

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:10 AM

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You'll need to craft a plane in gear lab likely to get a good one to meet her reqs.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:10 AM

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gotchu

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:10 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_A-6/R6_(Carrier-based_Prototype)#Type_0-0 would be ideal, but I doubt you have one (fixed link, copied wrong one)

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R6 (Carrier-based Prototype)

Iron Blood Fighter

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:10 AM

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whats a good fighter?

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those are my fighters

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:12 AM

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https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junkers_Ju-87C#Type_3-0
or
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Junkers_Ju-87_D-4#Type_0-0
would be good. Doesn't have to be in the fighter slot, just needs one kms plane somewhere

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Junkers Ju-87C

Iron Blood Dive Bomber

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Junkers Ju-87 D-4

Iron Blood Torpedo Bomber

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For fighters the purple f6f hellcat is probably best of those not already in use.

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Or you could take the gold one from Enty, since she's not in your fleets.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:13 AM

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so switch one of the Helldivers for a Ju-87

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:13 AM

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If you have no other kms planes yeah.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:14 AM

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what changes do I need to make to the vanguard?

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:16 AM

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Eugen could use an anti-torp bulge (purple aux) and whatever EVA aux you can get. Otto double HP auxes, Regen an HP aux and an EVA aux.

SS their gear and let me see their setup currently

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:17 AM

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dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:18 AM

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Drop the oxytorp on otto for an hp aux, give Regen an AA gun more meant for damage (that one you have is mainly a stat stick for HIT/Accelerator for main fleet), and take off the toolkit on eugen for a torp bulge. The guns on them are fine, though Otto could definitely use a better one if you have one.

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Do you have any of these? https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/wiki/Improved_Hydraulic_Rudder

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Improved Hydraulic Rudder

Eagle Union Auxiliary

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That would go on eugen instead of the SG radar if so

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:19 AM

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I have one put on Laffey

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:19 AM

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Take it off laffey, she doesn't need more eva.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:19 AM

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is fire supp good on Otto?

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:20 AM

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It'll do

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General rule of thumb, DDs get double HP auxes, CAs get EVA, and CLs get HP/EVA. You're trying to augment their weaknesses, not boost what they're already good at.

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Otto is rather tanky for a DD so she can get away with other stuff, but since you're dying you want more surviability.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:21 AM

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Is tool kit and SG radar good on regens

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:22 AM

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Yes, that will work.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:22 AM

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for musashi should I put both heavy shell and white shell

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like bizzwei

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:23 AM

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These would be better than SG radar though, if you have them.

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Double shells are fine for now on the BBs.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:24 AM

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Alright Ill upgade the new gear and see if that helps clear 12-4

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going forward am I gonna need to change ships?

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like just better ships in general?

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:25 AM

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Yes. W13 gets heavy on AA requirements, W14+ has very specific fleet comps needed. W12 is the last world you can kind of just use whatever as long as it is leveled with decent gear.

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You can worry about that later though, you'll have plenty of time to level up ships/farm gear while grinding w12 on safe difficulties.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:26 AM

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so Ima need to retrofit san diego for 13

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:26 AM

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Also, start doing Operation Siren if you have not already.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:26 AM

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I dont really understand it much Ill watch a vid on it

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the reqs for building gear seem outlandish

dark coyote Oct 23, 2024, 2:27 AM

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You do everythingin opsi pretty much. Follow the story until you clear chapter 4, and buy out as much of the rare stuff from the shops as you can before the month resets.

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Material reqs aren't bad for gear lab, but you do need to regularly do operation siren to get them, as it is the main source.

stuck linden Oct 23, 2024, 2:28 AM

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gotchu

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massive thanks for the help

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