tired karma
I want to make this post cause this person is my friend and a lot of other peoples here as well, it's regarding Niji, I'm sure the mod team knows and I'm not making excuses for him? I woke up and heard he was banned, he even told me to not make this post but I'm doing it anyway cause I feel it's right and him being permanently banned I think is uncalled for from a simple mistake
This ss from Addie is correct, Niji should have came to feedback or dm a mod
From what I see from niji here connects with this next screenshot
I'm not saying he's right for this
But earlier yesterday that he mentions is this probably these next screenshots below
He says up top that it's getting to him, these statements from Fluv and Takagi
But I mean there is a lot of passive aggressive insults
From what pin says here
I think most of chat was joking with Fluv
I think it was mostly sarcasm
keen quiver
Niji can defend and provide explaination himself. He already contacted me and several other moderators. He knows what he needs to do to make his case.
There's no need to act as his defence attorney.
tired karma
He doesn't have access to these screenshots
I don't think he deserves to be permanently banned
keen quiver
We do
tired karma
The kid is literally harmless
Sure he's annoying about lolis
But he felt bullied
And yes he should have handled it differently
But I ask that you guys please just give him a month ban instead of permanently
keen quiver
He was not banned for liking lolis.
He was banned for repeated toxic behaviour, which from our perspective turned into straight up harassment.
I'm sure you, as his friend, doesn't see it this way.
But we, as an entire team, including people who have close to no personal contact with Niji, looked into his conduct. He was told about the issues multiple times.
keen quiver
His ban is justified.
Even if he proves that he was harassed (which he failed to do over the course of like a year of claiming to be) it wouldn't justify his behaviour, but we would be willing to look over his case again.
But until he does - he stays banned.
tired karma
He mostly mentions when he's getting bullied for loli stuff
Where's the justification of him being banned?
Can you provide those screen shots?
Cause I'm confused by it
You guys see fluvs comments
Niji feels hurt by them
He does speak about it like he did in my provided screenshots
Which he should handle it differently yes, but he's not a toxic person you think he is
I request he isn't permanently banned, I think a month would be long enough for him to think about it
keen quiver
He had enough time to think about it.
tired karma
So 1 more chance you can't do
tired karma
So what about the screenshots I provided
keen quiver
You're more than free to look for any screenshots and send them over to Niji. He can make his case himself. We will not be taking an appeal from third party.
tired karma
You're not providing the multiple reasons for his ban, you can ask most people hes not toxic, yes he's has issues with fluv from indirect attacks
tired karma
You're more than free to look for any screenshots and send them over to Niji. He...
Is there any rules that void this entire effort from me
keen quiver
?
tired karma
People will look at this and see how ridiculous this is and how you're handling it
Most of the stuff I'm showing you here is what niji will show you
But I will relay this information over to him
Most of the times Niji started something is because he felt targeted
There are some things I talked to Varia about, if more context needs to be provided
keen quiver
I'm being pretty fair.
The person himself needs to handle their appeal, not their friends trying to convince mods "they weren't actually toxic"
Only they can justify their behaviour and know the details of the situation. Only they know why exactly they were punished and what warnings they received and didn't.
I appreciate that you feel so strongly about your friend, but this doesn't work like that.
tired karma
Understood
I still think you should handle bans differently
Not sure hes been banned before
But it should be progressive
3 day ban, 1 week, 2 week, 1 month, 1 year. Perm
Cause he would have definitely changed his behavior
keen quiver
We don't do progressive bans. We do progressive warns. We give users plenty of chance to avoid being banned in the first place.
If it came to a ban - you clearly don't care.
tired karma
Not even mutes?
That's flawed way of doing things
Verbals people don't take seriously
keen quiver
The details of our system are explained in rules
tired karma
Alright well
I just figure the mod team doesn't like him. Cause he ain't do half the things I see others do here if you won't give him a final chance with a 1 month ban.
I'll try to get him to make his own case, but the odds of you just throwing it out I expect will to be high
keen quiver
I barely know who he is.
I looked at situation as it progressed. I looked at chatlogs and DMs he sent other mods (and recieved from them).
I have no reason to "go after him" and I fully agree with his ban.
tired karma
You should check with some individuals in your team about what they say. I understand lolis are taboo
But I've seen her attack lolicons multiple times calling people disgusting
keen quiver
When he first raised concerns about getting harassed, I told him that my DMs are open for any proof of it happening and he can contact me whenever it happens. I did not receive a single message from him until today.
keen quiver
Again.
He was not banned for "being a lolicon"
Half a server are lolicons.
Whether fluvee likes or dislikes lolis is her personal business. It doesn't affect actual server moderation.
tired karma
For liking a character I guess we can receive insults by a mod member
tired karma
Again.
He was not banned for "being a lolicon"
Half a server are lolicons.
Wh...
It's not about being banned for being a lolicon
I know what he did
I showed it in my screenshots
tired karma
When he first raised concerns about getting harassed, I told him that my DMs are...
Yeah well Niji is the type to not like drama and has delt with a lot said to him and kept it in
keen quiver
Then I'm not sure what point you're trying to make?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying fluvee was 100% in the right, but at no point (that I saw) was there actually any harassment as Niji claims and absolutely nothing that was ever told to him either by Takagi or Fluvee (again, as far as I saw) justified the way he acted towards them.
And if there ever was anything said to him that I didn't see - we asked him to show it to us several times and he never did.
So we have no choice but to assume there was nothing like that.
So he was simply toxic for no reason.
tired karma
It's mostly indirect comments
keen quiver
It has nothing to do with lolis.
A lot of people like them on this server. We need to be stricted on this topic since discord tos, but there's absolutely no personal vendetta.
tired karma
It definitely seems like it against him
Takagi didn't say anything bad, but did suggest he was creepy
And you know as well the problems Fluv makes with lolicons
I'm sure you seen it multiple times
keen quiver
Yes, and I don't see how it's relevant.
tired karma
This screenshot here
Indirectly called trash for liking Malin
It's a lot of the same thing that happens to Niji
tired karma
Yes, and I don't see how it's relevant.
It is cause you're asking for proof and it's in your face
You want niji to personally do it
keen quiver
I asked for proof of him being harassed. Not of fluvee not liking lolis.
This is not harassment nor is it a personal attack.
tired karma
It's indirect
She trashes on lolicons all the time
People see it and will feel a type of way
keen quiver
Of course. And we already talked about it and I'll be sure to repeat myself to her.
But, and here I will repeat myself as well,
at no point (that I saw) was there actually any harassment as Niji claims and absolutely nothing that was ever told to him either by Takagi or Fluvee (again, as far as I saw) justified the way he acted towards them
tired karma
I will tell you that Fluv used to be in Nijis server
keen quiver
I don't care
tired karma
Professional much
It's where a lot of problems between the 2 happened
There's alot that needs to be accounted for
If you ever need context regarding that I'll be happy to share.
keen quiver
No, I'm literally just a guy. I'm not professional nor ever pretended, I just talk politely.
Other server business is that server's business. As long as that doesn't affect what happens on this server, it's a personal thing between 2 people. And I never saw any indication that it does.
tired karma
You can look up messages I'm sure you can find a lot with just that of you decide to look into it further
As much as you don't want to carry on this conversation, I'll let niji know what he can do
keen quiver
He knows, I already told him.
tired karma
I know you'll just throw it out and not give him a chance
I do appreciate your time in trying discuss the situation with me and apologize for any inconvenience.
keen quiver
Anyway, if it seemed like I was trying to brush you off, I'm sorry, that wasn't my intention. But we really don't do the whole defence attorney thing. Especially after the banned person already contacted us.
tired karma
It's fine, I appreciate it.
