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true hatch May 11, 2023, 5:49 AM

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Box coming in next few posts

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arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 5:50 AM

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What are your current fleets for HM?

true hatch May 11, 2023, 5:51 AM

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Mob top boss bot if it's not obvious

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It does 12-1 fine, 12-2 is a coin flip on both the last mob and the boss, while 12-3 and 4 it just fails

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 5:54 AM

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You need more CV for 12-3 and 12-4 most likely. Do you have Cheshire?

true hatch May 11, 2023, 5:55 AM

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Nope

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 5:55 AM

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Replace Dido with Sandy and you probably come close to 100%

spare flint May 11, 2023, 5:56 AM

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you're using a total of 1 DD and that dd has lousy torp. of course it's hard to meet req

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Replace Drake with Sandy, and Dido with Javelin

true hatch May 11, 2023, 5:58 AM

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Jav, Yukiiaze and Z46 are the only ones with a higher torp than Kita ATM

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Been using Dido for QEM buff, as she does by far the most damage in the boss fleet...

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I'll give it a go... and replace An with Hood for mob fleet?

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:02 AM

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Personally I'd move that Drake to mob tank assuming she's at least dev30, drop Neptune, drop Dido for Sandy, and add Jav in

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See if that meets requirements

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Replacing Warspite with a better CV or BB would help too. Like Enterprise

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:06 AM

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Drake is dev 25

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Neptune is dev 30.
That look better?

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:10 AM

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looks like you have plenty of leeway to use ktkz + jabbers instead of that low level YKKZ

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:11 AM

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Jabbers?

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:12 AM

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javelin

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:14 AM

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There's no YKKZ there

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oh, missed the second fleet

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Why would you replace Kita with YKKZ? She was the strongest vanguard in that fleet

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Also, move Hood to flag

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And QEM to flag

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:17 AM

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Does QEM need flag? I thought he barrage was aimed. Also she hurts herself

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Juuuust not enough for 12-4

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:20 AM

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are you sure they're geared?

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oh nm you used a different map for reqs

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:21 AM

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Yeah, used 12-2

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:21 AM

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Do you have gold torps on everyone?

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:23 AM

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Yeah, rainbow oxy on one DD and two purple aux torps on jav and ktkz

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:23 AM

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Is everyone fully enhanced?

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:24 AM

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The purple auxes are at +10 whole rainbow is at +8 I think, needing plates

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:24 AM

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I think you can probably get rid of neptune for YKKZ

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not sure why you have no acv but probably get rid of hood for sara or something

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:25 AM

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I was going to link my 12-2 fleet, but then realized using Shimakaze is cheating

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:25 AM

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you really need to raise aquila

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:26 AM

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Also because she has a PvP setup ATM and currently has over 900 torp by herself

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:27 AM

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Don't have Shimi 😦

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Yeah, Aquilla is on the list, straight after VV

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:27 AM

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When I said gold torps earlier I meant the torps, not aux, BTW

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:28 AM

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Yeah, everyone has gold torps, Ktkz has +13 the rest +10

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:30 AM

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shove hammers or whatever on everyone

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:32 AM

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Already got em...
Using Eld instead of nep gets me soooo close

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spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:33 AM

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just use ykkz. it's not like neptune is that good comparatively

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:33 AM

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You could swap Taihou for Tirpitz

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Doesn't solve your ACV problem, but you'd be over on TRP

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Wait, I could have sworn I saw her there

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Taihiu is usually the MVP of mob fleet though and with that I'm worried about the mob fleet tankiness

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:35 AM

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If Taihou is your MVP you need better gear on uni

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:36 AM

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As in the most damage with her module...

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:36 AM

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levels matter. you were dying because L109 neptune sucks

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:39 AM

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But a 102 YKKZ isn't going to be any better is she?

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:39 AM

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nothing is forcing you to do 12-4H. just do 12-2H until you get some more torp naturally

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she'd be sandwich unlike neptune who was being forced to tank

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:40 AM

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Then who'd be tanking the mob fleet with no Neptune?

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:40 AM

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bel can tank. it's just mob. uni can handle it. or even rotate tank between fights

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there were just massive dps black holes before. Like that L93 an shan in backline

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:42 AM

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No, I agree there.

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Would Hood do more damage in that mob fleet than Lusty?

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Or do you run into ACV issues if you change them?

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:44 AM

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acv is funny. it's possible when you go in it might still be AS

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:47 AM

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If only they had Cheshire, we could drop Sandy, throw in a decent torp ship, and avoid all of this.

spare flint May 11, 2023, 6:48 AM

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that's my 12-4. SMKZ and cheshire around somewhere

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:50 AM

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That got the torp... lusty uni, eld enough to let bel tank?

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:50 AM

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Try it and see. Kita's decently tanky as well, so it might work if you need to rotate tanks

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:50 AM

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I usually find Scylla does better than sandy, but is a lower level ATM

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:51 AM

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Sandy takes care of the planes, it's not about the damage

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Do you have a sexy bofor for her?

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:51 AM

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No 😦

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Oh wait yes

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:51 AM

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ok, then give her either a twin 90 or twin 113 AA gun

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:51 AM

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I thought you referring to rainbow

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:52 AM

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Sandy with a bofor should be more than enough AA with that fleet setup, so give it a shot. If it's your vanguard dying, we have other problems

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But you should have higher damage now, so shouldn't run into the same issues you were before, assuming everyone is geared correctly

true hatch May 11, 2023, 6:58 AM

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You were saying g earlier than uni may not be correctly geared, is this good enough?

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 6:59 AM

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Suisei is garbage, so is pompom. Avenger's not terrible. If you don't have a STAAG for UNi I'd just give her a quad bofor or twin 90

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I also forgot that Taihou's damage increased a lot with her augment

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Personally, since you're at chapter 12 HM, I'd also expect you to start using Tigercats/Pancakes instead of Hellcats.

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Replace the Suisei with a helldiver

true hatch May 11, 2023, 7:06 AM

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Got exactly one tigercat, that's on Impl, and one pancake that's on enty, both to sync for the QEM boss fight. Need more electronics for more I think (or something from opsi)

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Ah well, after maint I'll try

arctic lynx May 11, 2023, 7:07 AM

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Yeah, you probably need more electronics

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