#Open Applications for new moderators and fire moderators that don't contribute to the community

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keen mirage
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While this is certainly a sensitive topic, there is one point in time when administrators and moderators have to resign. By resigning, you give new people who play the game and want to make Azur Lane better a chance. You also allow your existing admins and mods a truly deserved break. If the same people are in charge of leading the community for several years, the quality of their volunteer job will most certainly drop.

For example today, there was a huge misunderstanding on your tech-support channel. The issue was that apparently I shared a link that was deemed fishy by the administration. Which is okay, because links are something that you should doubt on Discord.

#tech-support message

However, what is not correct is that the administration take action without first being informed. It is unprofessional and incorrect to give messages like this one:

"Let's not tell people to join a random ass Website that doesn't work to contact support.
I'm saying this cuz it legit didn't work and looks fishy AF"

Messages like these show that certain members of the administration don't take their volunteer job seriously. You can argue to me that the admins and mods are volunteers, but being a volunteer does not equal being a terrible admin. You can be a volunteer and give more educated answers. I was a volunteer moderator for Electronic Arts myself and I took the job seriously, in the sense that I would treat the users with more respect, using an appropriate tone and not a tone that is rather questionable. If you don't treat users with respect, you give a very bad impression for the game. This is supposed to be an official server and as such, it should be a place where people who are capable to act maturely should have power. Users that cannot address issues correctly shouldn't have power.

While I don't particularly find myself frustrated over the fact that my website got called "random ass Website", I think that such replies are unnacceptable. I also think that a great part of your administration needs to step aside, as there are more qualified people around.

And by no means I'm going to say I'm the only one qualified for such a position, there are other users like Hassat Hunter and Snowyamur9889 who seem more positive and willing to contribute to the community. Such users who give feedback and help others should have important positions, in my honest opinion.

All of this said, I don't condemn the entire team or anyone in particular. I'm not even condemning PinheadedPants. PinheadedPants had the reaction that a normal and any user who is ignorant on a topic would have. However, a community leader shouldn't have the "I accuse and then apologize if wrong" mindset. If better, don't accuse at all.

I hope that the staff or whoever is in charge of the server will look into this. As for me, I'm just a person who wants to make the game better in whatever way I can. A few days ago I had the idea of making a link that redirects to the AL Support email address, so that people don't have to copy and paste it. You decided that you didn't want to trust me enough and use that link on your bot, which is fine, because I'd do the same. However, the line has been crossed when I felt that you accused my website of being illegitimate.

My site was created with permission of the staff and I never used it for any malicious reasons. The staff wished me good luck with it, but now I even doubt if I want to share it at all.

Well, nothing else to add here. Just my two cents. Whatever decision is it, I'm fine with it. It is not my intention to argue about anything, my only intention is to give constructive feedback.

stiff crater
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Pin got a report from a user of someone posting a random website, and we have always been “delete first ask later” when it comes to things like that. He was unaware of the entire discussion about your idea, and when brought up to speed, showed our own link. I’m unsure how any of this stuff about the link relates to being a bad admin? He asked someone posting what he saw as a weird link that didn’t work when he clicked it to not post it again, which is 100% within our operating standards. We have lives outside of discord, and other conversations happening within discord, and we do not hold each other by the throat and force each other to read our discussions. They’re read when they’re read, or directed to if not. Your feedback about having admins step down for new users has been heard, but we’re not ‘firing’ anyone from here simply because they’ve been doing the job for a while. Moderator applications will open when we feel necessary, and now is not the time

keen mirage
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If an user reports something to the administration, the best practice would then be to check what is being reported. Being ignorant about what's happening isn't really an excuse. The search function that Discord provides is there and accessible to you.

Acting fast is a bad practice. For example once, back in the day (and while not trying to mix me with you), I banned an user who kept coming back to our forum when I was asking him to please contact our customer support. Customer support was at fault there, as they kept telling the guy to post in the forum, so that poor guy was like "okay, so what do I do, first you tell me go here, then here".

Not a similar case of course, but that's to give you an example of what happens when you act fast.

In my judgement Pin is a bad admin for accusing my website of being a "randOm ass website", well, I could elaborate to you that my site is not a "random ass website". It is a website that I made with pure love for the game, and particularly for people who like a certain ship.

I took my time to come up with a privacy policy:
https://www.churchofayanami.com/info/privacy

I took my time to come up with my terms:
https://www.churchofayanami.com/info/terms

I took my time to come up with a cookies policy:
https://www.churchofayanami.com/info/cookies

I took my time to come up with a legal notice where I also specify that I'm not related to you:
https://www.churchofayanami.com/info/legal

So random ass website, I'm afraid not. I am also afraid that it is disrespectful to address to fan sites that way. It is rude and disrespectful. And for that reason alone, "Pin" is not qualified to be an admin, from my perspective that is. If your perspective in the other hand, is that it's okay to address to fan sites as "random ass websites", well, in such case I will start addressing ECTL as a "random ass website", I will also start addressing the wikia as a "random ass website". Maybe I shall even go further on and call every site except for the official one a "random ass website", and then most likely get warned for violating the rule that specifies that I shall not be toxic with people.

The truth isn't definitive of course. What you may consider respectful may not be respectful to me, but personally that's not the way I operate. It's not the way your superiors operate either.

You may also keep this in your head: I'm not making it personal with you, Pin or anyone. What you do here is ultimately your decision. If your decision is to be arguably disrespectful with people who want to help you with your "random ass Discord server", then sure, keep being that way. You will soon enough however, find out that instead of keeping good users around, you scare them away.

Instead of playing the moderator with me, you should perhaps consider that I could help your community be something better. I could help you organize your rules and team better, as it's evident here that your communication and team work is bad. If there is no team work, it probably means you need changes on your team. The proof of that backs up that your team work is bad is publicly visible on the tech-support channel.

I will leave all of this to your judgement though. Your server your rules, like I once said.

That being said I appreciate that you "heard" my feedback. Feel free to close the thread whenever you want to.