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oak star
leaden abyss
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masterfully designed to completely polar to batman, and make him expose his biggest fear/weakness

untold crypt
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Jared leto joker best

oak star
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his design worked so well because of his personality

leaden abyss
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his designed worked

oak star
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which joker

leaden abyss
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because of his relation with batman

oak star
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I mean, the main character joker

fervent path
oak star
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or the villain joker

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or the damaged joker

leaden abyss
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heath ledger

oak star
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joaquin is better though

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but well

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no

leaden abyss
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its completely different

oak star
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I am wrong

leaden abyss
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joaquin joker is all about the mental state of joker

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its not about the villain interaction with the hero

oak star
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both are impactful oddly enough

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no wait

leaden abyss
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which is extremely important to the identity of being a well designed villain

oak star
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if we are talking about villains that truly impact the hero

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tchala

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no

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uhh

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I forgot his name

leaden abyss
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Tchalla

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is the fucking

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black pantehr bro

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ahahaha

oak star
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what was his name?

untold crypt
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Why you gotta bring up that name dooood

leaden abyss
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man died of cancer

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rest in piece

oak star
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I remembered the villain of black panther is super well design

leaden abyss
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dude still visited a children cancer hospital near days of his death

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yes

untold crypt
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Killmonger?

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Or the monkey guy

leaden abyss
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but put joker against any other heroes

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he get fucked

untold crypt
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Actually no

leaden abyss
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but against batman, he brings out batman biggest fear

oak star
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killmonger

solar reef
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Mbaku isn't even a villian

leaden abyss
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and abuses him

untold crypt
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Mbaku wasn't a villain

oak star
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killmonger isn't a villain

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that makes him a good one

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ironic

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but that's the truth

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he is the villain of the movie

untold crypt
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Claw is the villain

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Fuck claw

leaden abyss
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we are talking about the identity of a villain

oak star
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but he did it the wrong way

leaden abyss
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they are just a product

solar reef
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Every hero needs a villian

leaden abyss
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i like villain that break down the hero

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but is not that strong

oak star
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cape feels yabai btw

leaden abyss
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zilf

oak star
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so no flames?

leaden abyss
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get rid of that shirt

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and get rid of that pant

oak star
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I am giving him crocs!

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I need that pants!

leaden abyss
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fucking dress him like

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an aussie

oak star
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I can remove the design

leaden abyss
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surfboarder

oak star
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look, not all villains need to look cool

untold crypt
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What's this obsession with crocs

leaden abyss
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but like

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this is your avatar

oak star
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uhh

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yeah?

leaden abyss
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why you so obsessed with a mob like villain

oak star
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a mob like villain usually turns out the big bad

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in fact he needs to look like an ally

leaden abyss
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but how would peeps know?

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theres no narrative or will there be

oak star
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how do peeps even know luna is a baby

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or that rushia is a necromancer

leaden abyss
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it became a running joke

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it literally says in rushia bio

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i am a necromancer

oak star
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or marine is a cosplayer

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actualy

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scratch that last pary

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that's a meme

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when 3rd gen compared to 4th gen

fervent path
oak star
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so let's start from scratch

leaden abyss
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yes but the thing is that, fleshing out that stuff is much easier

oak star
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oh shit

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I added the 2nd form face

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meh

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whatever

leaden abyss
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just get rid of the pants

oak star
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pervert~<3

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what pants are you suggesting

leaden abyss
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baggy

oak star
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fair enough

leaden abyss
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cause its medieval

oak star
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no it's not

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what made you assume that?

leaden abyss
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fantasy typically is set in medieval age so

oak star
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no

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no it's not

leaden abyss
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also partially dictated by classical literature

oak star
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too much isekai is bad for health

leaden abyss
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cause uh

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i major in english

oak star
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Who cares about that when it comes to fantasy settings right now?

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not all fantasy must be medieval

leaden abyss
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see what umm

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klin did is really good

oak star
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Gensokyo is not medieval

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Harry potter is not medieval

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NARNIA

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is medieval

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huh

leaden abyss
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you just fucked your own arguement

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right there

oak star
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DRAGONBALL is not medieval

fervent path
leaden abyss
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narnia is the earliest iteration of fantasy in the listed literature

oak star
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in fact dragonball is on a universe scale now

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it's the earliest

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do you know what that means?

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hold on

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because I don't

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no really I don't

leaden abyss
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zilf go sleep

oak star
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I just don't understand why fantasy needs to be medieval just because of some other literature

leaden abyss
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i never said needs to be

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i just said typically

oak star
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ahhhhhhhhhh

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okay

leaden abyss
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also "partially dictated"

oak star
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now that's understandable

leaden abyss
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with a lot of classical literature being based on folktores

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which happens to be mostly based in medieval age

oak star
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isn't it because of the existence of modern weapons that people went to medieval?

leaden abyss
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no

oak star
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where modern weapons aren't present

leaden abyss
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fantastical creatures always been a trend in play

oak star
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because of guns

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like I heard people hated guns in story writing

leaden abyss
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any form of fantastical themes would make the genre fantasy

oak star
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science fiction?

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makes sense

leaden abyss
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science fiction dictate things that can happen in the distant future

oak star
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i do like hitchiker guide to the galaxy

leaden abyss
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or its concept is arguably logical

oak star
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fantasy throws it out of the window?

leaden abyss
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yes

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like fairies

oak star
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so meaning they can't coexist?

leaden abyss
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fantastical/supernatural beings

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time travel is science fiction because its unattainable atm, but is logical to some extent etc

oak star
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Wait so star wars is not fantasy?

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huh

leaden abyss
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it has aspects of fantasy

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but it explores the idea of alien, interstellar travel etc

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mainly

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which are key themes of science fiction

oak star
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I don't mind baggy pants

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but I prefer a modern fantasy style

leaden abyss
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insert my swag fashion

oak star
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no

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aku

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not all capes and covered necks makes you a good character design

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depends on the overall features

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like white hair with cape is instantly tight

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the issue with the term modern fantasy however

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...

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is impossible

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the closest I could think is eden's zero

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baggy pants

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fantasy tyle

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I GOT AN IDEA

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I think

fervent path
oak star
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oh wait

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I have to keep the chillax game dev look

leaden abyss
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@oak star when people hated gun in story writing

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i never heard of that

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if its used cheaply yes, but thats just bad writing then

oak star
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that's what my lecturer told me though

leaden abyss
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hmmm

oak star
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maybe she assumed?

leaden abyss
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anything can work

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if used properly

oak star
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meh not really

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I can use a gun and shoot anyone in fantasy

leaden abyss
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its like how saying it was just a dream," something thats commonly known as horrible and you should never do

oak star
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they tend to cast spell

leaden abyss
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yes but thats just bad writing then

oak star
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that's why you don't usually include guns

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things can be solved

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just via gun

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not all things

leaden abyss
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but arifeuta works

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with guns

oak star
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no

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arifureta is not a good isekai show

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there

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I've said it

leaden abyss
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the light novel

oak star
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runs

leaden abyss
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have you rea dit

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the light novel?

oak star
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no

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how is a gun good

leaden abyss
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theres the problem

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they fucked up the anime

oak star
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is the person immediately overpowered the moment he got a gun?

leaden abyss
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yes but its about how you use that gun

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like the gun in fate/zero was really well done

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the anti mage gun

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theres a limitation to it

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and they add a risk

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risk vs reward

oak star
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look, I don't want to make you mad, but I don't like power fantasy

leaden abyss
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if they just use gun like, meh i fuck you up

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same here

oak star
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arifureta is one

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you can't disagree

leaden abyss
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of course it is

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but its not as self insert as like

oak star
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it feels like people are doing a story for the sake of self insert

leaden abyss
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that cellphone isekai

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jesus

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that is the most self insert shit i ever seen

oak star
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oho

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wasn't there ragnarok or something?

leaden abyss
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isekai is less of a genre

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but more as like an opening

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a setup for a story

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you can see it as the first conflict

formal temple
leaden abyss
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shit

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you actuially bought it

formal temple
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good vibes

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hell ya i did

leaden abyss
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spending money feels good

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guilty pleasure

formal temple
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i got 1.2k from my social worker to spend on supplies for uni

leaden abyss
formal temple
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so i was like aight time to finally bite the bullet here

leaden abyss
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LF> money

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i want copicws

formal temple
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i used to want copics when i was really young

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i won a drawing contest when i was like 13 and spent all the money on pro markers instead

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treated them like my babies for like 3 years until i borrowed them to my cousin and she destroyed all the tips of the markers by putting the caps on incorrectly

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stabbing them all in half 🙂

leaden abyss
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Bruh

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You shit

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Also you can buy brush tips though

formal temple
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now i don't let anyone use my supplies

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oh yeah but for pro markers the brush tips were $$

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like 4$ per marker and then an additional like 1 or 2$ per marker for every brush tip extension

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so i guess i won't do any super serious drawings witht he pencils yet prob just some lil hand studies or sumn

oak star
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now it's baggy

leaden abyss
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bruh

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now top and bottom doesnt match even more

oak star
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still designing the top

leaden abyss
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hawaii shirt

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is quite literally how i see it

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goes so well with pants and crocs

oak star
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yeah

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that's how it goes

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the chillax feeling

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of hawaii

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how you figure that out?

leaden abyss
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im good at this

oak star
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I thought I never told anyone my design was based on that

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I mean

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I could always make it plain

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@pliant falcon can live 2d do particle system animation?

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I want smoke to come out of his hair

valid flicker
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if it’s Hawaii I always think of those shirts with those floral patterns on them in neon colours

oak star
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the truth is...

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was too lazy to draw the flowers

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and people would call it out for looking too non villain like

valid flicker
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kinda looks a bit ordinary right now

oak star
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the suggestion was to add a cape

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and a scarf

valid flicker
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I was about to say add a cape

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or maybe a big ol jacket

oak star
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WHat is with you all and cape

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hold on

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I too want cape

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a game dev with a cape

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oh wait

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forgot the scarf bit

valid flicker
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boring cape

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hol up a sec

oak star
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why would a game dev need a cape

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is my question ngl

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I want a cape

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but it doesn't make sense

valid flicker
oak star
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oh shit

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that looks nice

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@valid flicker but my issue is why do game developers wears capes

valid flicker
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why not

oak star
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it gets in the way of work

valid flicker
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it’s a drawing doesn’t have to make sense Glowow

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same as armour that doesn’t cover boobs it doesn’t have a real function

oak star
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I want to adapt some of your desig

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actually

leaden abyss
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i want to

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have an avatar with swag outfit

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but hugs a giant bear plushie

oak star
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it have more function than an actual armor

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i swear

valid flicker
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i made a design for a l2d model but kinda gave up

oak star
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an actual armor is not something you should bring to battle

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in fact why even bother with armor

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camo are more useful

leaden abyss
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yeet

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i model bed

oak star
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@leaden abyss just draw your own avatar then

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nothing is stopping ye

leaden abyss
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planning to

oak star
leaden abyss
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school says no

valid flicker
leaden abyss
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also i dont do digi

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so thats fucked

oak star
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that's good

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but that's your avatar?

valid flicker
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not avatar rlly

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just a character that ive had for a long time

oak star
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you don't want one?

valid flicker
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nah

oak star
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a character I had for a long time huh?

valid flicker
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i guess i could make one for myself but kinda cant be bothered

leaden abyss
oak star
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not with me

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how do I make cape look less awkward

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when walking in public

light flint
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what do you mean

valid flicker
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turn it into a coat

oak star
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I mean

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if you're a villain

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and you high key look like a villain

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won't you get caught?

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argh

light flint
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i mean, probably not?

oak star
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UNECCESARRY DETAILS

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I MUST NOT THINK

valid flicker
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i mean if ur looking at other villains

oak star
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JUST GET THE CAPE ZILF

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DON'T THINK TOO MUCH

valid flicker
oak star
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no

light flint
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usually a villain just calmly walking around raises suspicion but never leads to anything

oak star
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he looks like an uncle

valid flicker
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yeah

light flint
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he is an uncle

oak star
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what are you saying

light flint
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a loli murdering uncle

oak star
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doesn't look like it

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tbh

light flint
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he has a gun

oak star
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he just looks tired

leaden abyss
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v

light flint
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tired of lolis existing

leaden abyss
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hmm

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fusion360 render

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is interesting

pliant falcon
leaden abyss
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lemme try metal

light flint
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what

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its rendering the grain wrong

valid flicker
light flint
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at least on the sides

valid flicker
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cape = villain

light flint
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zilf literally just tell us exactly what youre trying

pliant falcon
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why did everyone suddenly making live2d

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not that i'm complaining though

valid flicker
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vtoober perhaps

light flint
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cuz its now one of the best things besides 3d

valid flicker
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i tried to make one before i realised i dont have a camera

light flint
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yeah vtubers have made live2d an industry

oak star
light flint
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that doesnt mean you cant make live2d

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cuz tbh there is not a single vtuber who has a high quality live2d

oak star
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A lowkey villain who looks like a modern day game developer

light flint
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cuz live2d can have physics

leaden abyss
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tried bit of render with metal

oak star
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BUT THE CAPE IS COOL

valid flicker
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game developer looks like a normal person tho innit

light flint
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no

valid flicker
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worse than a nromal person?

light flint
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game devs are identifiable by their lack of soul and the darkest spots under their eyes

oak star
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they have their life exctinguished

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yeah

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what fire said

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usually casual

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workplace never enforced clothings

leaden abyss
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here

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i made game dev

light flint
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tho tbh if i was gonna go full villain, id go for like modern body armor and then a fireproof cape

native furnace
oak star
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*cape

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Why

light flint
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yes zilf

oak star
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why do we

light flint
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i said cape

oak star
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all of us

native furnace
oak star
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relate villain to the damn cape

native furnace
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they need to be done by monday night

light flint
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because capes are literally there to look cool

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they put you at a disadvantage

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but it looks cool

oak star
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it sure do

light flint
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heros wont use them because they have people to protect

oak star
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which is why I want it

light flint
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so they must be at maximum power

oak star
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but the logic in my brain

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it's like

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ego and id fighting

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am I right?

valid flicker
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implies that game dev hate sunlight

light flint
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i mean i actually own a fancy cloak thing

oak star
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i actually drew a blanket girl

valid flicker
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dont leave house

light flint
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its def villain material

oak star
light flint
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but its medieval

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ye like that

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only solid black and pristine

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with a silver clasp for the neck

lunar swift
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zilf actually drawing for once? MutsukiHyperStare

oak star
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capes are so cool

light flint
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zilf always draws

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he just never posts it

oak star
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so damn cool

light flint
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i want to make a fireforce cosplay

oak star
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but my damn logic brain won't allow it

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I want it

leaden abyss
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stuff he draws are too lewd to be posted here

oak star
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but my logic doesn't

light flint
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but i have no idea where i can buy a firefighter suit

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like a real one

oak star
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Aku have you sseen my fairies?

leaden abyss
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the firefighter base duh

oak star
light flint
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i mean yeah, but i want a black one at least

oak star
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wanna...

light flint
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not the brown ones

oak star
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see?

leaden abyss
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ok i think i fixed the grain

oak star
leaden abyss
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and the render problem

oak star
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my fairies

leaden abyss
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now i just need to wait for my shitty pc

valid flicker
leaden abyss
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to render this

oak star
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just use denoiser aku

light flint
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no zilf

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its fusion360

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there is no noise

oak star
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can't denoise?

leaden abyss
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like this is industralia

light flint
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its not raytraced zilf

oak star
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what

light flint
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so theres no noise

oak star
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how does that work

light flint
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like game engines

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you know

oak star
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won't it take too long to compute?

light flint
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normal rendering

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zilf

leaden abyss
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yes

oak star
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but game engines isn't proper rendering

light flint
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but thats what fusion360 does

oak star
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it's not at a level where thing look realistic

light flint
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its meant for part design

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zilf

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fusion360 does not care if you want to render

oak star
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Is the future now?

leaden abyss
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you're making the actual product zilf

light flint
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it is meant for literally building a machine that works with proper tolerances for every single piece on it

leaden abyss
oak star
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can we have 1 second rendering now?

light flint
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like you take a fusion360 file and give it to company

leaden abyss
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hes drunk

oak star
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oh

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I thought you were rendering

light flint
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zilf

leaden abyss
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i am rendering

light flint
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tf do you think rendering is?

leaden abyss
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hes actually gone dumb

light flint
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its not just raytracing it in blender

oak star
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no I am confused

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So is it for rendering or making product?

light flint
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rendering is the act of taking the object data and projecting it onto an image

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making product

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but zilf

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YOU HAVE TO SEE THE PRODUCT

oak star
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so it isn;t a proper render?

light flint
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zilf omg

leaden abyss
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ahhahaha

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how can you be

light flint
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all rendering is proper rendering

leaden abyss
light flint
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you elitist hack

oak star
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i mean it needs the light bounce

light flint
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no?

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not at all

oak star
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yes

light flint
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thats not rendering

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zilf

oak star
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and it needs a reflection

leaden abyss
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lemme pull up a dictionary for him

light flint
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an unlit scene in unity is still RENDERED

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but there are zero light bounces

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so explain that idiot

oak star
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bro

valid flicker
oak star
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you and I know

light flint
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BRUH

oak star
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game engine tech is incomplete

light flint
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YOU ARE SO DUMB

leaden abyss
light flint
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LIKE SERIOUSLY

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you are talking about elitist modeling rendering

oak star
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we shortcut the game engine to be able to handle stuff what our current level of tech can handle

leaden abyss
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zilf

light flint
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BUT ITS STILL RENDERING

leaden abyss
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what are you even on

light flint
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GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL

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blender is fancy rendering

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a 2d ui is rendering

oak star
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which is a more complete render

leaden abyss
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drawing is technically rendering

light flint
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youve been using the word wrong your whople life

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ITS NOT MORE COMPLETE

oak star
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unity is an incomplete render

light flint
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no its not zilf

leaden abyss
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WHAT

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i am

light flint
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youre just an idiot

leaden abyss
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so confused

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is zilf

oak star
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dabs

light flint
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like seriously

oak star
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your anger feeds me

light flint
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you should be kicked out of your game making classes for claiming videogames arent rendered

oak star
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I understand your point of render is just render

light flint
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like seriously

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you deserve to fail now

oak star
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but fire

leaden abyss
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zilf

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yu dont understand the point

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you dont understand the basic meaning of render

oak star
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rendering beautifully is better than just a render

leaden abyss
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i cant believe that

light flint
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it also costs resources

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but heres the thing

oak star
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a render of 3d model consist of a few variety of variables

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vector

light flint
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fusion360 simple rendering is more resource intensive than anything blender can do

oak star
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point

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uv

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normal

valid flicker
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even if i know nothing about 3d modelling most basic of model is still a render innit might be bad but its still a render

light flint
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like zilf

oak star
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well, to be fair uv is not necessary

leaden abyss
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its all good now

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im using cloud rendering now

light flint
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blender its literally for children compared to fusion360

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its made for designing things

oak star
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if we talk about normal render

leaden abyss
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using headquarter comp to render

light flint
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you think boeing uses blender?

valid flicker
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my dad used fusion 360 to 3d print something once

light flint
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no they use fusion360

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because guess what

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blender is literally 20 years behind in simulation technology

oak star
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you just need vector, point, some math and open gl to colour stuff that's how render works if that is the simplest form you meant

leaden abyss
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aaa

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im losing braincells

light flint
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yes zilf

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BECAUSE THATS RENDERING

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listen zilf

oak star
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but that doesn't justify it as being complete

light flint
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go back to your terrible game

formal temple
leaden abyss
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BUT ITS STILL RENDER

valid flicker
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pog

light flint
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let the real 3d gurus talk

valid flicker
light flint
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you literal child

oak star
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would you call a stickman a drawing?

light flint
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yes

leaden abyss
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IT IS

oak star
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I won't

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it's not art

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for me

light flint
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@lunar swift ban zilf for being a dumbass

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please

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i beg you

oak star
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I am giving you my opinion

light flint
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yeah your opinion on a fact based field

leaden abyss
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high quality

lunar swift
light flint
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in which the facts tell you that you are wrong

leaden abyss
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doing wood render atm

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that takes a long time

lunar swift
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Zilf why do you always ask weird ass questions

oak star
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fire please

leaden abyss
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about 20min

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brb

oak star
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I did not

light flint
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hes not asking weird questions

oak star
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The topic is what qualifies as a render

light flint
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but hes stating that a stickman is not a drawing

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even though by definition from every artist in history dating back 5,000 years, you are wrong

oak star
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5000years

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that's the past

formal temple
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lol wait i don't think zilf is the one where who can gatekeep what is and isn't art lmfao.

leaden abyss
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noteven 5000 years

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its 40 000 years

light flint
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EXCUSE ME

formal temple
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here*

light flint
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64,000 YEARS

leaden abyss
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64 000

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with da aboriginals

lunar swift
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nah just say a stickman is "art", cause that's what art lounge likes to justify when they want something on topic

leaden abyss
lunar swift
leaden abyss
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ariaa

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back read

oak star
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shh

leaden abyss
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you will lose braincells

lunar swift
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I'd rather not

light flint
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aria zilf is saying that if its not raytraced, its not 3d rendering

lunar swift
#

uwot

light flint
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yeah

leaden abyss
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he callde fusion 360 rendering

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not rendering

oak star
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Excluding the abusive insults fire threw at me while I said none

leaden abyss
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and then went into random shit

oak star
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let's go back to rendering

light flint
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so like every game in history until the time when the 2000 series was released is apparently not rendered

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zilf you deserve them

oak star
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fire please

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watch your words

light flint
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i only called you an idiot

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which in this case is true

oak star
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terrible game

light flint
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oh yeah that

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its not terrible

oak star
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you deserve to fail

light flint
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but then again, according to you, its not rendered

oak star
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you should be kicked out

light flint
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render your game zilf

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or it isnt a real game

oak star
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you are so dumb

light flint
leaden abyss
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use proper lighting zilf

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or its not render

light flint
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raytrace it

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in realtime

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do it

oak star
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those are the things you said

leaden abyss
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those are what you said

light flint
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and?

oak star
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sigh

light flint
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you were the one spouting blasphemy

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youre lucky we didnt stone you

lunar swift
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Doesn't rtx only support real time ray tracing

light flint
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yeah

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and terribly

oak star
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look, if we wanna discuss, I prefer you not kickstarting your hot headedness

leaden abyss
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theres nothing to discuss

light flint
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but according to zilf, if its not raytraced, its not rendering

leaden abyss
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theres just nothing getting through you

oak star
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no what I am saying is the rendering is incomplete

light flint
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zilf ill turn my hotheadedness off when you start making logical sense

lunar swift
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ok let's not do insults MutsukiHyperStare

oak star
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you assumed I said it's not rendering

lunar swift
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wait can u link me to start of discussion

leaden abyss
valid flicker
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@oak star not really related to the current conversation but i added some more if it helps

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leaden abyss
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fireforce

light flint
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i mean zilf i take back every insult except dumb and idiot

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but you have yet to make sense

oak star
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regardless fire

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you were being a bit too much

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lol

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but nvm

light flint
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because you were also being too much

oak star
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Was I?

light flint
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rendering is rendering

oak star
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I never said it wasn't

light flint
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raytracing is fancy rendering

oak star
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look

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you were assuming

light flint
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you called it incomplete or improper rendering

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which is wrong

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an unlit cube in unity is full rendering

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it doesnt need light, it doesnt need reflections, doesnt need shadows

oak star
#

yeah and what about a normal shader

light flint
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that makes it fancier

oak star
#

Fire, game engines are still not in the perfect stages

light flint
#

renering is takng data and applying it into a visual format

oak star
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that is why

light flint
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yeah but they are complete rendering

oak star
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ps have 5 things

light flint
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you call it incomplete rendering

leaden abyss
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theres no incomplete or complete rendering

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only advancement and outdated

light flint
#

the very first gui ever made was rendered

oak star
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they are incomplete because that is not the achieved ideals if you have to take shortcus to the modelling to make your model look good and help with the rendering time

light flint
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ideals dont make it complete

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they make it fancy

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what you are not understanding is that turning any data into visual format is 100% complete rendering

oak star
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yet you could definetly compare a ps1 game and ps4 game to understand which feels more complete in terms of visual

light flint
#

its not more complete

lunar swift
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but game engines isn't proper rendering
I'm guessing this is what happened dogehappy

light flint
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its fancier

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yes aria

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game engines made with a thing called the rendering pipeline apparently arent rendering

oak star
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nah dude pretty sure the rendering formula change overtime

light flint
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no?

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we can just add more to it

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its still rendering

oak star
#

i mean graphic bugs were a thing

light flint
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so?

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bugs are in everything

oak star
#

you can't render objects properly

light flint
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define properly

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cuz an unlit cube is properly rendered

oak star
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they are not there

light flint
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ok if you count a bug as making it improper than there has never been a technology made by mankind since ww1 that was proper

oak star
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yeah

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I guess you're right on that

light flint
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so guess what

lunar swift
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Zilf we don't need special fx to render, in HS engineering we use Autodesk inventor to model and render to present MutsukiHyperStare

light flint
#

now full raytracing is improper

oak star
#

blender isn't perfect then

light flint
#

yeah

oak star
#

it sure is

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nothing is perfect

light flint
#

so its the same as normal rendering

oak star
#

only one being better than the other

light flint
#

yeah

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because its fancier

oak star
#

eh

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depends

light flint
#

like i have been saying for 20 mins now

oak star
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people cheat on halo

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because they can't render it

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not halo game

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or light funnels

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until this gen

leaden abyss
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render is literally the act of creating an image from a 3D or 2D model

oak star
#

wrong

leaden abyss
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thats it

light flint
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its taking data and converting it to image format

leaden abyss
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theres nothing more to it

oak star
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FIre is more correct

light flint
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a bar graph in excel is rendered

oak star
#

Meh

lunar swift
light flint
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zilf

oak star
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you sure

leaden abyss
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what the fuck

light flint
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i will ban you

leaden abyss
#

is zilf on

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honestly

oak star
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never check the code

light flint
#

zilf

oak star
light flint
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its taking data and making it visual

oak star
#

look

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I am sticking to my ideal

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regardless

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you should know my stubborness

light flint
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go back to your "improperly rendered" game full of "bugs"

oak star
#

but fire

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you were a true bitch

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a true fuck

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and that was the truth

formal temple
lunar swift
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zilf you are literally getting told facts and saying "sticking to my ideals" MutsukiHyperStare

leaden abyss
#

this is the equivalent of antivaxxer telling

light flint
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aria steal his pinkname for a day

oak star
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aria you said game programming isn't art

formal temple
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that's always zilf though nothing new

leaden abyss
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noo my ideals, when a doctor speaks facts

light flint
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programming isnt art

formal temple
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this happens at least once a month

oak star
#

if I never fought for it me and fire would get kick out

light flint
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unless it makes art

leaden abyss
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this is a whole new level

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i really want what zilf is on

oak star
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aritst-lounge is more of a creative lounge

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just be appreciative of that fact

leaden abyss
#

what is even being arguied at this point

light flint
#

zilf

lunar swift
#

Zilf I literally don't think programming is "art"

oak star
#

it is a tool to make art

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yeah

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my mistake there

lunar swift
light flint
lunar swift
#

It can be a tool to create visuals

oak star
#

a tool for almost anything data related really

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fire

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I can't see

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eh

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long loading

light flint
#

ye its a 4 mb file

oak star
#

you

lunar swift
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Simulations =/ art, it could be art, but it's used for well, simulating

oak star
#

did you put a damn beach for every outline

light flint
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for now yes

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i still gotta fix literally everything

lunar swift
#

Beach in Antarctic dogehappy

oak star
#

Yes you do

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because

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wtf is this

light flint
#

yeah its cuz i havent fixed it

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im just using normal noise for the heatmap

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and i still have to change the biome color maps

oak star
#

hmmm

valid flicker
oak star
#

Is everything going to be shoverd into one world

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or will it be interstellar

light flint
#

that was just a test

oak star
#

Just say it

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will it be one world

light flint
#

uhhh 2 worlds

oak star
#

or interstellar

#

so two different types?

light flint
#

binary planets on a binary star

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nah similar worlds

oak star
#

why not make it different?

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bound to be more fun no?

light flint
#

i mean it will be different

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the 2nd planet wont have oceans

oak star
#

in terms of the planet composition

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ah

light flint
#

its gonna be like marshes and dry lakebeds

oak star
#

so it's hell

light flint
#

yeah

oak star
#

...

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fire

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that's minecraft

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isn't it

light flint
#

tf?

oak star
#

i mean

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you have two different location

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a randomly generated normal world

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a randomly generated hell

light flint
#

its not hell

oak star
#

is it like hell?

light flint
#

its just florida and west texas had a baby

oak star
#

so it's hell

light flint
#

so hell is actually more livable

oak star
#

now that's just sad

light flint
#

but its fine

#

its inhabited by the giants and the crabgirls

lunar swift
#

Zilf we live on earth right?

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So it's actually Minecraft

oak star
#

we don't have hell

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Well I don't believe in it

light flint
#

zilf ever heard of the gobi desert?

oak star
#

at least

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no

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what's that?

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is the one with the hole on perm fire?

light flint
#

its in the middle of asia

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and you legally cannot enter it

lunar swift
#

sad you don't believe in hell, that's where all the succubus are and cute demon girls

leaden abyss
#

the entire earth will eventually end up like that

light flint
#

because you will die

leaden abyss
#

due to erosion

oak star
#

oh

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the hell hole was scarier

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but look at that beauty

light flint
#

yeah but that isnt natural iirc

oak star
#

yeah

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I guess they had no choice though

halcyon herald
#

Did you know if the earth stopped rotating the air would still keep rotating resulting in 1000mph wind

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Then you could hide in finland

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But it doesnt help

light flint
#

we would also keep rotating

oak star
#

the earth is indeed a fast rotater

#

what

halcyon herald
#

Yep

oak star
#

wait

lunar swift
#

acer thanks for bringing in simple physics MutsukiHyperStare

oak star
#

the earth stop

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but we rotate

light flint
#

yeah

oak star
#

and the wind blows?

light flint
#

yeah

oak star
#

so like we got blown by the wind?

light flint
#

no

#

zilf its like standing on a car and it slams on the brakes

#

you go flying off

oak star
#

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

leaden abyss
#

@halcyon herald all nighter baby

halcyon herald
#

Oooh

light flint
#

bruh zilf is gone

oak star
#

So it's both us flying and getting hit by the wind

halcyon herald
#

Yes

light flint
#

wait

oak star
#

will it be in opposing direction?

leaden abyss
#

yes

light flint
#

not crabgirls

leaden abyss
#

because the atmosphere will still be moving

#

at the rate of the earth spin

light flint
#

lobstergirls

oak star
#

DOESN'T THAT MEAN WE GET SMASHED BY AIR?

leaden abyss
#

thus we go fly

halcyon herald
#

Crustacean girls

leaden abyss
#

not necessarily smashed

#

more like eh

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ripped apart

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torn apart

halcyon herald
#

I need crawfish giels please

light flint
#

ye but they evolved from a common ancestor with the mermaids

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so they need the tails

oak star
#

I...

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I don't think we could say anything about mermaids

#

for all we know

halcyon herald
#

Im pretty sure crawfish also have tails

oak star
#

it could be fish head

light flint
#

ye

halcyon herald
#

Theyre like lobster shrimp

light flint
#

but lobsters are better

oak star
#

and man legs

light flint
#

not my mermaids zilf

leaden abyss
#

i cannot see the point of the evolution of a mermaid

#

it seems so

oak star
#

actually

light flint
#

its 100% female fish girls

oak star
#

it is possible

leaden abyss
#

ineffective

#

and useless

oak star
#

if let's say

leaden abyss
#

yes its possible

oak star
#

the world is flooded

leaden abyss
#

but its so useless

halcyon herald
#

Fish with legs fish with legs

leaden abyss
#

if according to natural selection

oak star
#

and humans evolved to fish

light flint
#

the top half is just humanoid, but its still fish

halcyon herald
#

Walk AND swim

oak star
#

but I think human will evolve to frogs

leaden abyss
#

how do human evolve into fish?

halcyon herald
#

No fish evolve to have leg

oak star
#

by swimming for millions of years

leaden abyss
#

evolution happens through natural selection

oak star
#

the thing is I don't kknow

halcyon herald
#

Kill fish with no legs