technology

[subtle hawk]

lol

[hexed citrus]

with how fucked over AMD got over the past year or 2 in RTG I doubt they'll produce smth big

[quartz atlas]

I'd imagine they gonna take a loss on gpu margins and target the low budget crowd again

[vagrant holly]

pretty sure it's not that big of a loss

i think they got the production down by now

early adoption will cost more in most cases because being new tech, it's likely bound to not run that well and they have to raise the price to make sure they milk as much as possible from people who are willing to take the risk

then the reviews come out and people find out and stop buying but guess what? the higher price already provided for the loss in sales that happens later on

30xx is gonna be better and they can safely bring the prices down to a more reasonable level because by now, people know how big of a deal real time ray tracing is and many stuck with 1080tis without upgrading, and people who bought a 2080ti are mass selling in a panic, sometimes going as low as 600$ just to get their hands on a 3070

it's business

[hexed citrus]

it is a loss

especially considering that they never broke even because of small of a market share they have

and not having any competition in anything but low budget consumer space

and partnerships

[vagrant holly]

i see

[hexed citrus]

nvidia took a big risk with RTX back in the 20 series

and the risk showed success

[vagrant holly]

i'm just glad they stuck to their guns and cotinued to invest on real time ray tracing rather than fall back

[hexed citrus]

well that's the way forward

even if fanbois/shills will not agree

[vagrant holly]

ye but when they released the 1660 it felt like they were having second thougts

it was really weird

so many features we have in videogames are just comprimises because we couldn't achieve real time ray tracing

[severe falcon]

Cant wait till its good enough to have raytraced house of mirrors in real time

[flint bobcat]

Are sound cards even worth it these days?

[vagrant holly]

if you're really anal about sound, yes

otherwise nah

[severe falcon]

Just wait till the Nvidia STX realtime sound tracing cards

[hexed citrus]

if ur at that point then u know the worst place to put a DAC is inside the case

[flint bobcat]

oh I got question

Is there any performance drop/increase when getting founders edition vs 3rd party sellers

[hexed citrus]

depends

usually not by a lot

but some brands do add more beefy VRMs that allow for higher boost and/or overclocking

as well as beefier cooling solutions

[vagrant holly]

didn't nvidia decide to keep the best silicon for founders and give stuff that's not as good for partners?

as far as i know founder's edition has better silicon so it overclocks better, but even then, their coolers are (usually) worse and you'd have to do the overclocking yourself anyway

and overclocking founders' is not a great experience because of said worse cooling

[lucid sundial]

if you're doing custom water cooling save yourself some trouble and buy a founders/reference pcb

[subtle hawk]

We shall see...?

[gloomy tinsel]

Maybe I'll sell my 2060s 8gb for 3070

[vagrant holly]

it's won't sell for enough

a new 2060s is like what 400-500?

you can't sell it for the price of a new one since it's used

[quartz atlas]

2080TIs are going for $400

Good luck selling ur 2060

[vagrant holly]

people selling 2080tis like it's spoiled milk when it's still gonna be a decent card

[woven citrus]

Does desktop pc with dedicated graphic card still need an integrated graphic card?
I want to buy a new processor but theres 2 version of it..

The cheaper one dont have integrated graphic(intel hd)

I worried it will affecting performance of my pc because it dont have the integrated graphic

I uses 1050ti if that matters

[hexed citrus]

no u don't need one

but it's nice to have for certain things

[woven citrus]

what's this certain things

[hexed citrus]

if ur GPU dies

accelerating things such as ur browser, video editor, etc

[woven citrus]

should i get i3 9100f and SSD.. or i5 9400f?

i have standard hdd btw..

and no i don't have problem with storage rn..

[lucid sundial]

Well what are you planning on doing?

Even a 256 gb ssds at sata speeds offer a huge quality of life upgrade

Boot times will do from ≥1 min to like 10 sec maybe

[woven citrus]

i3 9100f is so cheap here it's almost half of the i5 9400f.. saw the benchmark comparison it doesn't have that "much" difference.. but idk, since that's just a statistic not actual real use case

should i get i5 one with like double price.. or 9100f is enough..

for references i was planning to play a game like death stranding if that matters

[gloomy tinsel]

My M.2 boot my lappy in just 4 sec

[shut sapphire]

132 million my ass

and people buying IT

[wary depot]

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[vagrant holly]

fanboy spotted

[mental coyote]

Eh. I simply want all of the major players to do well enough so that shit gets better across the board. Admittedly, I do prefer AMD.

[hexed citrus]

AMD has yet to get their shit together

[mental coyote]

Unfortunately. But, the same could've been said for them vs. Intel. Then, Ryzens caught up.

[hexed citrus]

fanbois that think AMD has what it takes to beat nvidia are just delirious

[mental coyote]

Beat, no. I'd be satisfied if they could make 'em sweat a 'lil.

[hexed citrus]

not even that

nvidia is so ahead of the curve that AMD and intel need some bloody miracle to light a fire under nvidia

[quartz atlas]

@vagrant holly moore is known for sprouting a shit pile of shit

he's like the trump supporter of the tech world

[hexed citrus]

AMD is wasting their breath bcz:

1. they use expensive HBM memory for GPUs that only sees benefit in enterprise applications
2. not trying to get into evolving ray tracing tech until nvidia has gen 2 RTX out the door
3. extreme lack of graphical engineers and scientists
4. non existent presence in any graphical market outside of low end consumer space

just to name a few points

[mental coyote]

I'm sure you can at least see why I'd like to see some competition, at least.

[hexed citrus]

obv

[mental coyote]

But, yer not wrong about how much of an uphill battle said competition has to climb.

[hexed citrus]

but there's a difference in wishful thinking and just blindly believing that AMD will succeed without some colossal effort or some miracle

[mental coyote]

Nah, I'm a realist. Nvidia has been beating ass in gpus for so long, it's like trying to outwhale a rich guy.

The actual gpu fight is really AMD/Intel.

[hexed citrus]

for consumers maybe

but I'll still stick with team green for the foreseeable future

especially since they acquired mellanox you can technically say that I'm running nvidia NICs in my servers

[mental coyote]

Fair enough.

[hexed citrus]

wouldn't be surprised if intel beats AMD with their Xe graphics solutions

especially since more than half of the RTG engineers went to them

including Raja

[mental coyote]

This is a definite possibility. Just looking at the gpu clocks for Xe ... damn, Team Blue came up quick.

[fringe goblet]

I have question, does anyone use blender and know how to add a yellow node called “Add”?

[hexed citrus]

you just add it

??

[tame topaz]

I really like how Botan is such a gamer

4 monitor setup, posts upgrades on her Twitter

And pretty much a full ROG rig

[hexed citrus]

vsimp

4 monitors is overkill

[pale pawn]

how is 4 overkill

[vagrant holly]

@fringe goblet it's a math node

you can change the operation to whatever you need

[subtle hawk]

This new amd gpu can probably turn the tide if things happen

[fringe goblet]

[quartz atlas]

https://www.3dcenter.org/news/erster-geekbench-wert-zur-geforce-rtx-3080-aufgetaucht

Amd got some true competition for nvidia

[subtle hawk]

Amd bikes

[wary depot]

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[flint bobcat]

can the bike run crysis

[quartz atlas]

https://www-techspot-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.techspot.com/amp/news/86650-amd-strikes-back-nvidia-releasing-bicycles.html?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15995339556468&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.techspot.com%2Fnews%2F86650-amd-strikes-back-nvidia-releasing-bicycles.html

Fking amp project

[subtle hawk]

Amd already winning in processors right

[quartz atlas]

If you're going by revenue and market share

Then no

Intel is multitudes larger than amd

Revenue for q2 was $19.73B for Intel

$1.93B for amd

They've got a long way to go before they are "winning"

[remote remnant]

amd bike

[teal shale]

amd bike

[hexed citrus]

ah yes

the ryzen powered bike

[vagrant holly]

they are recycling all the leftover founders rx 5700 and making bikes out of them

[desert olive]

AMD's bike will run faster than NVIDIA's GPU

I'm calling shots

[sturdy wasp]

Will they release rtx 3060?

[flint bobcat]

theres no info on it

so no

[sturdy wasp]

How much is RTX 2060 super?

[flint bobcat]

its good for the price

but paying $100 more for the 3070 is much better

since 3070 > 2080 ti

[sturdy wasp]

Well I have to change other parts then

Is asrock b450 steel legend compatible with the ryzen 4000 series?

[gloomy tinsel]

No

b550 series can

[flint bobcat]

3950x vs 3900xt?

[vast sand]

3950x

[tame topaz]

Who wanna bet Botan's gonna get Ampere day one?

[gloomy tinsel]

She already got sponsored

but

Having 4 monitors

is it worth it Lmao

Having 2 is enough for me

[hexed citrus]

3 is the sweetspot

covers most of your FOV while not having the monitor lines in the middle of your vision

[vagrant holly]

4 monitors is for streaming AND keeping your gaming experience untainted

[hexed citrus]

4 is just ridiculous

you have that gigantic edge line in the middle of your vision

not to mention that you need to do nvidia surround fuckery

[vagrant holly]

i mean 3 for your periferal vision, 1 from the middle top for keeping track of the streaming software

[pale pawn]

laughs in 6 monitors

[tame topaz]

She rocks so much ROG gear that I wouldn't be surprised if she used the bezel-free kit as well

[zinc meadow]

i was so confused, i thought you were talking about BM monitors lmao

[tardy oak]

https://youtu.be/dougISKs2vQ the madlad

[hexed citrus]

old video

[tardy oak]

Yeah

Still a madlad though

[hexed citrus]

madlad for what? using a built in solution?

wow I can click some buttons on my mac

so smart

[tardy oak]

[severe falcon]

yamato assuming you use 4 monitors all in a line

[hexed citrus]

I mean that's how it's usual set up

[severe falcon]

nah you make a +

except without the bottom

[desert olive]

A real madlad would make their own operating system written in their self-made programming language that was compiled by their self-made compiler.

[severe falcon]

why stop there, make your own CPU

[hexed citrus]

can do

gimme a FPGA and it's doable

[subtle hawk]

Why does botan pc

[vagrant holly]

@desert olive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtlyeDAJR7A

[subtle hawk]

@gloomy tinsel

correction, you're forgetting about bios updates

granted knowing asrock's rep across the board i'm not even sure if most of their b450s will even have bios updates for zen 3

[desert olive]

Why does botan pc
@subtle hawk I see you're a man of culture as well

[subtle hawk]

[gloomy tinsel]

Soo I tried scrcpy for the first time

How to fix the pixelated graphics?

like I feel my recording isn't very good in Resolution and bitrate quality but

I don't know what the command is

like here it is

but its a bit pixelated, and I need to find a way for the reccording to be better

[tardy oak]

Hmm, not familiar with that software. I'll look it up though

Are you sure the video is the issue and it isn't just a visual downscaling to fit your screen?

[gloomy tinsel]

I would say bitrate issue everytime I scroll its a bit pixelated

the fps is still ok. but I need to input the Resolution too

there 2 thing
-Resolution
-Bitrate
is the problem

[tardy oak]

What command are you starting it with?

[gloomy tinsel]

my command in the cmd start with this

[tardy oak]

Oh did you just double click the exe?

[gloomy tinsel]

yea

lel

I need to extract it first?

[tardy oak]

no, it accepts various configuration options

[gloomy tinsel]

This is what I wanted to do
but the Windows10 command is blocking it

thats from yt

[tardy oak]

What is the problem? Is it saying something like

scrcpy is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

[gloomy tinsel]

like everytime I open up the cmd
it just show the Windows10 file

So If I type command

it doesn't work

because the scrcpy file was on Disk 1 (HDD)

But the command won't let me go into Disk 1

[flint bobcat]

either go to the scrcpy folder or put the executable into environmental variables

[gloomy tinsel]

the scrcpy file is still winrar

[flint bobcat]

unzip it

[tardy oak]

Do you know the basics of command prompt or do you need a crash course @gloomy tinsel

[gloomy tinsel]

this is the first time I get into cmd

[flint bobcat]

search up some YouTube videos for basics of cmd

Here lemme get you

[tardy oak]

once you extract it, go to the folder in windows explorer and shift right click
Then select "Open command prompt window here"

[flint bobcat]

https://youtu.be/3-TcvtE9Kyg

[gloomy tinsel]

ok

[flint bobcat]

You can just skim through

[gloomy tinsel]

any further information?

I don't find windows explorer on my laptop

is it file explorer?

[flint bobcat]

ye

[tardy oak]

sorry, boomer language

[flint bobcat]

When you are in the folder scrcpy, just shift right click -> open with cmd

Or literally follow the github instructions

https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy/blob/master/README.md

[gloomy tinsel]

ok lemme see

there is no open with cmd on me

[tardy oak]

It might say Powershell

[gloomy tinsel]

ah i see

[flint bobcat]

Ok here's easy way then

[gloomy tinsel]

its start like this

[tardy oak]

yeah do "Open PowerShell window here"
Note that with PowerShell, you have to prefix all those commands with .\
so for example, .\scrcpy

[flint bobcat]

Powershell is fine lol

Nah u don't need to .\

Ye so now just connect ur device and do command

[gloomy tinsel]

Uh I broke it lel

I need to learn from that video first

it was recording in 1080p

but the bitrate

yea I need to learn command first

[tardy oak]

Bitrate should be 8Mbps

[gloomy tinsel]

that guy goes 40mbps

[tardy oak]

[tardy oak]

No that isn't that

[gloomy tinsel]

eh?

[tardy oak]

that is ADB copying the driver to your device

[gloomy tinsel]

Android Debug Bridge?

[tardy oak]

yes it is how it controls the device
you can safely ignore those lines

ADB is way too complex to use manually if you don't know a command line lol

that is why it does it for you

[gloomy tinsel]

lel I need to learn first

because from 5 years having computer

I just used it for gaming only lel

[tardy oak]

Imagine using a computer for games when game consoles exist

brb time to pull out my wii

[gloomy tinsel]

wut

[tardy oak]

to play minecraft

[gloomy tinsel]

i have it lmao

[tardy oak]

anyways back on topic

so is ./scrcpy working
(Damn it is so hard not typing strcpy)

[gloomy tinsel]

yea I got typo too much

because well I change phones a lot

the scrcpy is working

but I need to knew the commands first

and also looking for Tutorial videos

[tardy oak]

so for the bitrate, try ./scrcpy -b 20M

That will do 20Mbps

[gloomy tinsel]

with space?

on the -b20M?

[tardy oak]

Yes, spaces in between

[gloomy tinsel]

ok

[tardy oak]

Apparently -b20m would also work

[gloomy tinsel]

oh

I just do it

it works

?

[tardy oak]

Is the bitrate better?

[gloomy tinsel]

I'll try

yea A lot better

There no pixels came out when Scrolling

like when You have low bitrate, You scroll there is a bit pixelated animation

that thing not a problem now

Thankyou

[tardy oak]

Nice
Now, if you want to make it easier, right click on the scrcpy exe, create shortcut

then right click that shortcut, find the "Target" box, put your cursor to the end, and add " -b 20M" without quotes after a space

[gloomy tinsel]

ok

[tardy oak]

Then you can drag it to your desktop or something

[woven citrus]

i have 5 slot to put a 12cm fan here, how it should be?

[quartz atlas]

what case u using?

[woven citrus]

just a generic case with acrylic on one side

idk the brand

[quartz atlas]

assuming u have sufficient ventilation at the front panel, 345 would be intake

1,2 exhaust

[woven citrus]

what is exhaust

[woven citrus]

[vagrant holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwKOxrqJ294

probably the first "gaming" chair that's actually good

[quartz atlas]

its literally just a herman miller

with a logitech color scheme

[vagrant holly]

i'll take it

[gloomy tinsel]

Eh Mine is just 200$ chair

Well office chair

But If I sit too long on this chair

My butt feels like Burning pan LOL

[vagrant holly]

i'm rocking my ikea jarvçpvéakole°àlakrombaster

10 years of warranty

this baby can hold so much ass

[desert olive]

what if you're searching for "stack overflow" error and not "stackoverflow" website

[hexed citrus]

easy

u add context

[flint bobcat]

can i place a ups on a surge protector?

[uncut mica]

I need help

do i download the geforce experience

i think i sound stoopid but

i jus need assurance

[flint bobcat]

yes

[uncut mica]

amd's driver too?

my disk always 100 % whenever i do clumpy tasks

[flint bobcat]

oh are you using an amd gpu?

[uncut mica]

both nvidia and

amd

gtx 1650 and vega 8

on laptop

[flint bobcat]

amd's is built in

just get NVidia experience

[uncut mica]

great thanks

it says here on the sricker of my laptop

amd ryzen 5

i checked the inside

it says vega 8 lmao

[flint bobcat]

ye after installing nvidea drivers, you should configure settings to point to the dedicated gpu

[uncut mica]

im too bored to crop

[flint bobcat]

Did you install the nvidea drivers?

[uncut mica]

not yet

playin csgo rn

[flint bobcat]

Ah lol

[uncut mica]

u play cs?

[flint bobcat]

nah

[uncut mica]

aight

i'll dl driver after this round

for geforce,

do i dl geforce experience?

I found this

aight i dl'd the driver

ssd or hdd?

[flint bobcat]

?

[uncut mica]

i wanna add more disk space to my laptop

but nvm

ssd is good

[uncut mica]

other installers running

what do I do

there are no installing in the bg

nvm found solution

actually no

still same error

what a ded channel

[lucid sundial]

what

geforce experience should be a simple install

[hexed citrus]

uh huuuuuuuuuh

but still

[vagrant holly]

pretty sure that's still a fanboy

nvm name threw me off

but ye i think amd is going to stick to budget markets

and even then it's hard for them

if 3070's price is anything to go buy

3060 and 3050 (if there will be one) will be wiping amd off the floor

amd is gonna have to sell gpus for 100/150 bucks or something to compete

[quartz atlas]

didnt leaks show that amd's top rdna2 line up cant even compete with 3070?

[visual fjord]

Not sure, but the 3000 series are surely going to be a hassle to compete with for other companies like amd

[quartz atlas]

nvidia is gonna be a monoploy sooner or later if amd cant compete this gen

[mental coyote]

Just think. They're prepping to buy out ARM, too.

[hexed citrus]

https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/nvidia-to-acquire-arm-for-40-billion-creating-worlds-premier-computing-company-for-the-age-of-ai

OH SHIT

https://giphy.com/gifs/paul-comment-ron-5mBE2MiMVFITS

[flint bobcat]

[vagrant holly]

NVIDIA MONOPOLY BBY LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

nvidia for desktop

radeon for laptop

intel hd graphics for fridges

[gloomy tinsel]

Lmao

[flint bobcat]

at least nvidea isnt like apple

[vagrant holly]

yet

tbh they kind of are

remember physx?

in origin, you needed a separate nvidia card to simulate physx

it wasn't just a piece of proprietary software

they aren't as bad as apple

but there have been some examples were low-key they tried to be

[vagrant holly]

https://lumi.mihoyo.com/#/

finna go to their discord and straight up ask "alright what's the catch?"

[wary depot]

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[vagrant holly]

it's cool and all

but i personally was a big fan of vega's boxy design

[hexed citrus]

looks like a team red 20 series card

[civic stump]

i honestly like it

better than the blower on the 5000 series

[vagrant holly]

i meant radeon 7 not vega mb

https://assets.rockpapershotgun.com/images/2019/02/Radeon-7-angle.jpg

look at it

it's a box

if russians made a graphics card, thats what it would look like

grey, uninspired, artificial, devoid of any humanity

and i love it

the new design doesn't look bad it just looks meh

it honestly looks more like a partner card than a standard one

[hexed citrus]

I like the original designs

[gloomy tinsel]

Yep it happens

THE IMEI blocking is Real

The tax for IMEI is just a scam then

rip ip11

[teal shale]

https://youtu.be/S4zyEhIHitU

A video about the graphics card with a super random twomad cameo

[desert olive]

I've managed to corrupt my IMEI once after installing a custom ROM

it was hell to fix since I forgot to back things up

[gloomy tinsel]

No this country blocked

basically region

So My country Indonesia doing IMEI block to Black market phone/phone thats not Build in Indonesia or not registered on Indonesia

They all can't access Internet using mobile data

But Wifi can be used

[tame topaz]

One hour bois

[gloomy tinsel]

one hour of what?

[gloomy tinsel]

hmm lookslike this won't do the job well

[tame topaz]

You probably wouldn't want that style of cooler @gloomy tinsel

Depends on what CPU you're using and your budget

[gloomy tinsel]

I've used Noctua

I just scroll on the internet and look at that thing

wtf this won't do the job well

except you're from like 2005

[tame topaz]

Ah

Yep that thing is definitely form over function

[quartz atlas]

ASUS ROG Strix: $849.99

EVGA FTW3 Ultra: $809.99

EVGA FTW3: $789.99

EVGA XC3 Ultra: $769.99

MSI Gaming X Trio: $759.99

ASUS TUF Gaming: $749.99

Gigabyte Gaming OC: $749.99

EVGA XC3 Gaming: $749.99

MSI Ventus 3X: $739.99

Gigabyte Eagle OC: $729.99

EVGA XC3 Black Gaming: $729.99

Zotac Gaming Trinity: $719.99

[gloomy tinsel]

RTX 3070 price?

[quartz atlas]

3080

[gloomy tinsel]

oh

I found that
My friend Use Ryzen 5 2600 with RTX2080 super
She change to 2080 super because her 1050TI died

then 3000 series came

She want to sold her 2080Super to me WTH

should I sell my 2060S for this Lmao

I want to grab 3070 tho

[quartz atlas]

imo wait ard for whatever amd has up their sleeve to roll ard

[hexed citrus]

@quartz atlas I like how ppl bitch that the perf of the 30 series isn't 2X in rasterized rendering

[quartz atlas]

lmao, theres people bitching?

[hexed citrus]

when nvidia clearly said it's 2X perf in ray tracing and DLSS

[quartz atlas]

bruh those people be high

like what did they expect

[hexed citrus]

AMD fanbois

the lot of them

[quartz atlas]

LMAO

[hexed citrus]

like wah wah wah they lied, AMD will be better

30 series isn't worth

muh consumers

muh gamers

[quartz atlas]

but leaks say amd's top card cant beat 3070

we'll see soon enough anyway

also the thermal perf of 3080 is mind blowing lmao

[hexed citrus]

ye

really interesting design

[night shard]

Suspicious

[tame topaz]

@hexed citrus Linus footnoted in the vid that Nvidia came back to them saying that the 2x claims are in Quake RTX and Minecraft RTX

Path tracing

[hexed citrus]

linus always jumps to conclusions too quick

[hexed citrus]

it was obvious that it's improvement in RT not traditional rasterized rendering

[tame topaz]

But yeah, RT

[hexed citrus]

if you don't care about RT then go use some 10 series card

it's simple as that

[tame topaz]

I'm gonna be stuck with my overpriced 1060 for a while more

Still dunmo how to budget this

[hexed citrus]

then again "gamers" are extremely simple minded, can do more rasterized rendering = better

[tame topaz]

Third world kinda sucks oof

[shut sapphire]

so 10 series still worth it ?

then again "gamers" are extremely simple minded, can do more rasterized rendering = better
@hexed citrus

[quartz atlas]

if u can get it cheap 2nd hand sure

[shut sapphire]

if u can get it cheap 2nd hand sure
@quartz atlas sure but not the mining gpu

[hexed citrus]

I will kindly tell you to stfu

nobody mines on 1080 Tis

[gloomy tinsel]

Well I wondered

will my CPU bottle neck to 3000 series

[remote remnant]

m

y

fuck it i thought that my pc broke

[quartz atlas]

i7-7gen seems to bottleneck the gpu at 1440p and below

[vagrant holly]

tbh, bottlenecking a gpu like that will still give you crazy high framerates, don't think it's gonna be a noticable improvement if you get a better gpu

it's likely gonna be like the difference between 150 and 200 fps

at that point i'd just think of it as headroom tbh

[hexed citrus]

as reviewers put it

if you have anything newer than 10 series or AMD equivalent there's no big worth upgrading

unless you have money to burn

then be my guest

[tame topaz]

If you don't see anything wrong, look closer

[hexed citrus]

RGB power LED

[tame topaz]

Under screen cam for $430, I'm impressed.

Glad it's coming out real soon

[gloomy tinsel]

Well I use Ryzen 5 3600xt

it won't botneck?

I'll go with 3080

[hexed citrus]

3600XT
bottleneck

KEK FUKING W

[remote remnant]

Under screen cam for $430, I'm impressed.
tbh vincommerce products are pretty much top tier

[quartz atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322156299657805834/756217326659174571/20200917_120919.jpg

[lucid sundial]

wtf

[mental coyote]

Ow, my brain

[flint bobcat]

[subtle hawk]

Umm hey

[desert olive]

let me emulate an Intel Celeron with my 6502 real quick

[gloomy tinsel]

[civic stump]

amd fx emulation time

[vagrant holly]

actual 3 iq moment

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[remote remnant]

free super fast pc sumulation hosting™️

[vast sand]

I mean technically

Isnt that like what Nvidia Now or whatever they call it is doing

U pay to have a PC stream games to ur device

Imagine not buying an actual PC

[remote remnant]

imagine playing online games with ur brain

[mental coyote]

Talk to Elon-chan about his brain-chip

Bastard better hurry up and make Catgirls!

[hexed citrus]

the chip is just a stepping stone to nekos

[shut sapphire]

pc emulator when

[vagrant holly]

the chip will control the cat ear and tail motor functions

[shut sapphire]

wtf

is that

A TERMINATOR

BRUH

[pale pawn]

https://twitter.com/cyberpunkgame/status/1306991768387321856?s=21

Cyberpunk 2077 (@CyberpunkGame)

C:>systeminfo /u 2.0.7.7\cyberpunk /p ******
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Saving data to: c:\cp77\hardware_requirements.info
Display now? y/n
Y

Likes

312

Twitter

[shut sapphire]

DIRECTX12

[tame topaz]

Damn, the TUF 3080 is just wiping the floor.

Bonus points for it being the cheapest 3080 available here.

[vagrant holly]

fury as recommended? daaaaaaaam

[teal shale]

70 gb nice

Also called my local pc store

they will apparently have 3080s on november

But like the first batch of 3080s on november

And local stores here in Costa Rica leaked that the PS5 will cost 1300$

Bruh

[vagrant holly]

they announced
399 without optical drive
499 with optical drive

[teal shale]

yea but the stores themselves here will sell them at that price roughly

[desert olive]

I mean

you still need a good CPU and GPU to process the HQ game streaming

not the best, but just enough for streaming

[subtle hawk]

did anyone here actually manage to get a 3080

out of curiosity

@stone wave you would be the kind to i feel

i thought about upgrading but i thought about it some more and was like

turing will be more than enough for me

[stone wave]

idk theres a 700 dollar hole in my wallet rn

[subtle hawk]

for a long while

.

[stone wave]

so im holding back

[subtle hawk]

what’d you buy

inb4

[stone wave]

[subtle hawk]

tangerine board

[stone wave]

my shit died

so i yolo ran to microcenter

[subtle hawk]

completely new build?

also welcome to the more than 10 cores club

on a 3900x but

[stone wave]

mobo, cpu, a can of air and some hi chews

[subtle hawk]

lol

[stone wave]

and 2yr insurance for the mobo

[subtle hawk]

what flavor

[stone wave]

$696 or so

err fruit

[subtle hawk]

[stone wave]

i was gonna go 3900x but i cheaped out and went intel

cause idk where the am4 bracket for my AIO went

and 115x works with 1200

though im in a weird position where the 240mm rad isnt cutting it (40c idle, 80c max)

[subtle hawk]

never thought i’d see cheaped out & intel in the same sentence

[stone wave]

and im short 4 pins for the CPU power

[subtle hawk]

oh you’re using an AIO

i recently became a noctua shill this year

i went through like three different coolers but bc i couldn’t settle on a look

[stone wave]

ive been considering one of those NZXT AIOs with the LCD on it

but $$$$$$$$

oh also a Lian Li O-11 Dynamic XL

[subtle hawk]

I wouldn’t really mind switching to an AIO but i just think air is foolproof at the end of the day

man I wanted a lian li case but was like

ok do i have enough room for this bc i don’t want it on the floor

[stone wave]

get the other case i was eyeing

the louqe ghost s1

you'll be too broke for other shit

but you'll have room for it

so you can stare at it all day long

[subtle hawk]

i did my new build earlier this year and i actually went from an older lian li to the basic bitch “everyone has this case” nzxt h510

six noctua case fans later and the airflow is top notch but my only regret is probably getting it in white instead of black

and well also probably not considering a newer lian li or even a fractal

[stone wave]

oh god don't say NZXT

I QC'd a bunch of builds in NZXTs earlier this week

I think they were S340s

and panels got fucked up cause people didnt pay attention that the screws for that case are on the side of the tempered glass and not towards the back

so when people stack them up for QC they get fucked up if they don't do it carefully

[gloomy tinsel]

Anyone get the 3080

[mental coyote]

Prolly Yamato?

[desert olive]

https://youtu.be/WCEu4DmB174

they used a single cheap graphics card for this

luckily the artist had the original screenshot so they had more information to work with

[frozen idol]

Does anyone know how big approximately performance loss would be after switching from 1680x1050 screen to 1920x1080 with GTX970?

[flint bobcat]

you could just check benchmarks on that resolution

[vagrant holly]

as aria said, you'll have no shortage of benchmarks for 1080p resolution

[teal shale]

https://www.animemaru.com/msi-reveals-hololive-geforce-rtx-3080-graphics-card/

I NEED IT

WAIT NO

is this real

im scared now

Nah i got bamboozled

[vagrant holly]

wonder how many more people will fall for animemaru

[hexed citrus]

manufacture vtuber cards

ez profit

[gloomy tinsel]

I wanna get one

[shut sapphire]

RIP ME

azur lane makes my phone looks like stove

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[gloomy tinsel]

oof

[tame topaz]

Well damn, all these crashes and freezes I'm getting are due to busted USB ports

Who knew

[gloomy tinsel]

and they said Founder edition suck at cooling

[tame topaz]

Heard the TUF 3080 is really good tho

[gloomy tinsel]

One of the cheapest too I think?

[tame topaz]

Yeah

the cheapest one here

[gloomy tinsel]

wtf Lmao

did this guy just bring the PC outside then bring it inside again.
meanwhile ITS FREEZING

[flint bobcat]

thats p cool

[vagrant holly]

haha

p cool

get it?

cool

haha

[remote remnant]

extra cooling

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[desert olive]

https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-acquires-zenimax-media-and-fallout-maker-bethesda-for-7-5-billion

[vagrant holly]

not like anybody really had any hope left for bethesda or zenimax anyway

[desert olive]

Fact: No matter how good your rig is as long as the game is poorly coded, it will still lag.

[vagrant holly]

fax

doom looks miles better than pubg but also runs a fuckton better

[slow quiver]

I need everyones opinions on the 3080. I don't know which to get but everyone knows 62f (16c)Tuf gpu seems more attractive than a 1~3% performance gain of the Gaming x trio that runs at 71f (21c) at full load.

Gaming trio being quieter and the tuf gpu being louder even though it has a silent bios option for it

Tag me if you have anything

[quartz atlas]

what fuck kind of weather u living in that a gpu runs at 16c?

are u up in the artic circle or smth

[hexed citrus]

ah yes

1-3% makes suuuuch a big difference

[slow quiver]

notice how the MOD and the used-to-be moderator but Nimi bot maker did not read and not TAG me

But I also may have my C/Fs confused

[teal shale]

So the cheapest 3080 is the best one

poggers moment

[gloomy tinsel]

ye but online market is broken rn, people re-sell 3080 price like a madlad

[flint bobcat]

honestly not worth buying it, you can just wait for 3rd party sellers to release

[gloomy tinsel]

I'll wait till november then

[shut sapphire]

wait

why they resell 3080?

[hexed citrus]

bcz scalpers

[shut sapphire]

im still waiting rx 580 and gtx 1060 fall down like crazy

so i can buy one

[quartz atlas]

just get a used 20series

[shut sapphire]

bruh

i wish i had money to buy 20 series

but 10 series is still viable

im not some kinda dude who heavy on gaming

warzone are ded cz hackers

i just want to play escape fron tarkov

people sell 20 series like crazy

and yet

the ceo said "ITS SAFE TO UPGRADE"

[hexed citrus]

imagine waiting for the most bought card and the least resold one to go down

[flint bobcat]

I'd rather get my parts new

[quartz atlas]

the ceo said "ITS SAFE TO UPGRADE"
@shut sapphire people are selling like mad exactly because its safe to upgrade

They all want the 30series

[quartz atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUnSsx62j8

[vagrant holly]

i can understand 10 series owners wanting to upgrade

but 20 series owners can definitely still squeeze alot out of their cards as long as they aren't ape shit over ray tracing

most of them are just reselling out of remorse for paying the early adopter tax

[flint bobcat]

ill stick with 4k my man

[gloomy tinsel]

I stick with 1080p 144hz on me

[quartz atlas]

1080p? in 2021?

[gloomy tinsel]

this monitor already 3 years old

and its IPS

yea nothing good about it

[quartz atlas]

well at least its better than mine

1080p 60hz

im upgrading next yr tho

[remote remnant]

my monitor is at least 7 years old

capable of 1080p 60fps

[gloomy tinsel]

welp

My old monitor shows its black Juicy thing

Thats a

maybe 9 years ago in 2011

Maybe Ima change to AOC AG273QZ thats 240hz 1440p

But this old Asus 144hz just good enough to me

I don't play in High Resolution either

Only for some games

Just plugged it on the TV

[flint bobcat]

lots of ppl still use 1080p, it's a pretty good resolution still

[subtle hawk]

like 95% of people from steam statistics no

i'll take 1080p 144hz over 1440p 60hz any day

but that's personal preference since i primarily play fps

[vagrant holly]

i still use 1080p

just ultra wide

😎

[tardy oak]

hmm
Heard Android 11 breaks shit, is that true?

[hexed citrus]

if you want install it

if not then don't

[buoyant sapphire]

How do I turn off sticky keys?

[buoyant sapphire]

But what do I do if it's already turned on?

[vagrant holly]

same

[gloomy tinsel]

I disabled it long time ago

damn it suck when you press shift it just do sticky keys

[zinc meadow]

control panel -> accessibility, or something

[zinc meadow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/586664176408199168/758967080166359040/unknown.png

[subtle hawk]

Schrödinger's issue

[shut sapphire]

amd fan bois

[livid scaffold]

gamer meld

[subtle hawk]

Imagine it does lop

[hexed citrus]

it won't

period

[subtle hawk]

Broo

imagine

[hexed citrus]

no

[gloomy tinsel]

:/

[lucid sundial]

fanboys

[vagrant holly]

the biggest challenge for amd is going to be the price

[lucid sundial]

I guess I'll wait for the 3rd party reviews but I doubt that amd can get performance anywhere near the 3090

[hexed citrus]

ofc it won't

[shut sapphire]

the biggest challenge for amd is going to be the price
@vagrant holly performance and price my boi

[vagrant holly]

it WILL be a worse card

and they have to beat nvidia's pricing on top of that

[shut sapphire]

well

[vagrant holly]

lets be optimistic and say their flagship rx 6900 is only 10% slower than the 3080

they also have to price it below 500 $

you're also giving up ray tracing

[shut sapphire]

10% slower

bruh

thats huge margin

but people gonna see the price instead performance

but

imo

nvidia still gonna win

[vagrant holly]

10% with the kind of numbers that are on the table iusn't THAT big of a loss

3080 is waaaayyyyyyyyy more powerful than anything you'll ever need if all you do is play games

you're talking about the difference between running a game at 150 fps or 130

if priced accordingly amd could maybe get away with it

but again, the 3080 is 500$

it'a a flagship card but people who usually buy midrange can afford it

amd has to come up with a card that gets at least close to those kinds of numbers in performance AND somehow cost less

i'm excited to see what the come up with and tbh, if it turns out to be shit, i can't wait to see what amd fanboys will come up with

the amd fanbase is an absolute shitshow

pretty much a cult

except russians

russians love amd and they are pretty chill

[hexed citrus]

russians will take whatever has best price/perf ratio

[vagrant holly]

i just like to think they prefer amd because it's red

katyusha intensifies

[quartz atlas]

lets be optimistic and say their flagship rx 6900 is only 10% slower than the 3080
@vagrant holly thats extremely optimistic lmao

[mental coyote]

Not every AMD fan is unreasonable, Cyberius. Hell, would I like Team Red to pull one over on Team Green? Yep.
Do I think it's about to happen? Not this generation.

[hexed citrus]

not in any generation from the looks of it

unless nvidia decides graphics isn't their thing anymore

[mental coyote]

Damn. I can't even counterargue.

[hexed citrus]

I'm looking at things realistically

[mental coyote]

Nvidia is insanely far ahead, and they heccin know it.

[hexed citrus]

Intel in the coming years will probably regain their traction first with laptops and Xeons then GPUs and CPUs for consumers

[mental coyote]

Intel has to get their size down. They've gotta be pushing the limit for 10 nm

[hexed citrus]

AMD will chug along, making more chiplet designs and keeping intel on their toes but probably not for long before either again going into slumber or being bought out

if not the whole company the CPU division absolutely

[mental coyote]

The real thing for both to worry about, is Nvidia gobbling up ARM. Imagine them getting into the CPU game.

[hexed citrus]

it's not a big worry

nvidia will never compete directly with intel nor AMD

their sights are set on AI and ML

as well as hyperscale data processing

something amazon, google and MS are competing with

[mental coyote]

No ARM PC revolution, eh?

[hexed citrus]

ARM is only great for highly integrated devices

such as mobile phones, apple shit and other similar stuff

[mental coyote]

You beat me to the Apple mention.

[flint bobcat]

apple?

[mental coyote]

Yea. They're gonna make Macbooks with ARM silicon.

[gloomy tinsel]

You can't even compare apple to PCs

even I don't like how they perform

the only apple product I used is the phone only

because mac is weird

1000$ mac vs 1000$ pc

the pc will win ofc

You can get a lot of stuff with 1000$

well about the 3080 price in indonesia

2 million IDR gap

699$ or 10,3 million IDR

meanwhile the PC store where i build my pc

[hexed citrus]

no the pc won't win hands down

[gloomy tinsel]

sold it for 12,8 million

[hexed citrus]

if u need a portable computer then macbook was a top choice for years

purely because of the battery life and the "it just works" aspect of apps

[gloomy tinsel]

also I knew their lifespan is also good

my teacher still using macbook air from 2010 till now

Apple is kinda strong in their operating sistem

well their product is also very expensive

it all depends on the decision that the person chooses but at a high price like this,very expensive. I will buy Asus Pro art studiobook rather than macs

but the only issue I knew with mac is their fan position

other stuff is just ok

[vagrant holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWczw89sMe0

now THIS is something i wanted to know about ever since the first time they showed off the cooler

[subtle hawk]

Mac is obv better than pc

Why do people buy macs and macbooks smh

[tame topaz]

Oh my god vtuber graphics cards are real

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/izyvnp

Zotac x VirtuaReal (nijisanji cn)

[zinc meadow]

https://youtu.be/x6bUUEEe-X8

[buoyant egret]

You’re @tame topaz

Vtuber GPU

[shell epoch]

[flint bobcat]

It's literally a purple recolor

[vagrant holly]

there are a bit more details but weebs will gobble it up anyway

[slow quiver]

Speaking of that video

The asus tuf 3080 has all 6 of the expensive capacitors while the gaming trio has 1

But how big of a difference does that make cause most of the crashes come from cards with all 6 cheap ones

🤔

[lucid sundial]

without further testing there isn't much that people can say atm; however, it's a logical inference that the 6 expensive caps will improve oc stability, especially for xoc enthusiasts.

at least from what I understood, the expensive caps decrease the electrostatic noise or something that comes with running more voltage through the caps

anyone feel free to correct me if I misunderstood the reports

[slow quiver]

thats about right

But with that spreading like wildfire and knowing that the TUF Gaming or all ASUS cards has all the expensive chipsets, not only will it be more harder to get but theres no reason to get any other AIB cards such as the Gaming x Trio and whatever else because of the 700$ price point asus has compared to 760$ msi gaming trio

Big monkaS

NGL though not having a card and waiting for people to catch flaws and etc, glad i didnt get one yet

[lucid sundial]

yet

[lucid sundial]

but can it run x86? https://www.techradar.com/news/arm-wants-to-obliterate-intel-and-amd-with-gigantic-192-core-cpu

[flint bobcat]

[hexed citrus]

smells like clickbait

[zinc meadow]

oh there was a followup tweet to the video i posted https://twitter.com/jayztwocents/status/1309617232201175040

JayzTwoCents (@JayzTwoCents)

MLCC vs POSCaps update https://t.co/oplVs5wzTb

Retweets

104

Likes

1347

▶ Play video

Twitter

not sure if there's any conclusion yet

[tame topaz]

Okay then

Just got my motherboard back after RMA'ing

The system is working fine now, but the Ethernet is not

It would drop out literally every few seconds

Never happened before

[subtle hawk]

Just get a 2080 imo

[vagrant holly]

no

be patient

or you WILL regret it

[tame topaz]

"The network interface "Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller" has begun resetting. There will be a momentary disruption in network connectivity while the hardware resets. Reason: The network driver detected that its hardware has stopped responding to commands. This network interface has reset 1 time(s) since it was last initialized."

Hmm...

[subtle hawk]

I hate network drivers in windows

[pale pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hustle-shark-take-kevin-oleary-cheers-to-cash-gif-5698151

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/459672377152765962/759868630556344340/20200928_004155.jpg

[flint bobcat]

smh go away scalper

[subtle hawk]

This will be funny if all those cards are lemons

Or sad rather

Maybe

[vagrant holly]

away scalper

[hexed citrus]

banned for scalping

[shut sapphire]

look at those GPU

[vagrant holly]

man tbh, i don't hate that red thingie that much

but then again,my setup is black and red

[buoyant egret]

[oblique warren]

Cracking a 512 mb ram bit me and my friend found in an old computer we’re trashing apart just for the hell of it

[subtle hawk]

why

[remote remnant]

Cracking a 512 mb ram bit me and my friend found in an old computer we’re trashing apart just for the hell of it

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vagrant holly]

about what you would expect from a guy who wears taco socks

[shut sapphire]

512mb ram

demm

those are like from 2003

[tardy oak]

What is this, YouTube?

The postinstall script literally exists only to display that ad wtf

Is this what npm has become

[hexed citrus]

yes

[tardy oak]

It isn't supposed to be allowed
https://www.infoq.com/news/2019/08/npm-bans-package-ads/

yes because npm install -g isn't a thing

[tardy oak]

Been running for a good hour

Finally done

[tame topaz]

LG Wing is 999

Not a bad price for a gimmick phone honestly

[clear drift]

i need more RAM REEEEEEEEEEEE

[shut sapphire]

umm

apple what are u doing

[quartz atlas]

How else do you expect to get cheap iphones?

[shut sapphire]

ik foxconn

but Apple as gone madlad

well business as usual

well at least its worth it

for the workers

LOOK AT THESE BLIND MTFKRS

apple paid 1.5k$ for the workers

[subtle hawk]

per or for all?

[shut sapphire]

ALL OF EM

wait

no

@subtle hawk

[subtle hawk]

damn

where tf cancel culture at

[buoyant egret]

I use an iPhone

Labor laws and such

[hexed citrus]

google is bad eh

[tardy oak]

Tried to figure out how to get one of them fancy form PDF files to open on my mom's Chromebook

1. opens in Chrome's PDF viewer: doesn't work
2. Downloads Adobe Reader from the Play Store, tells me to install the Windows/Mac version
3. Decides to try Wine in the Linux container:

• Installs wine from apt, doesn't have the right configuration
• Installs new dpkg repo with latest Wine

4. After about 45 minutes, I get a running Wine.
5. I download the installer and run it in wine
6. Freezes when installing wine-mono because the virtual disk was full
7. Resized the virtual disk
8. Noticed the exe was missing, thought there was an error or something
9. Redownloaded
10. Ran again, failed
11. Tried from PlayOnLinux (which needed some apt fiddling as well)
12. Went to find the installer
13. It was gone again
14. Realized my attempts were futile because Chrome deleted all the exes you download every few minutes because sEcUrItY, so even if I get the installer to work, it would be deleted in five minutes.

There goes 1.5hr of my life

portable document format

[gloomy tinsel]

Geez Lmao

Airflow was like jet turbine

but lookslike

not really

Air intake only 30-40% as big the front panel

[subtle hawk]

@tardy oak blame adobe

[shut sapphire]

from cloning SSD to become Apocalypse

MOBO DED now i have to change it

i have the spare mobo

but it only have 1 slot ram workinh

now i have to re assemble again

[buoyant egret]

I read while about 64% of Chinese have internet, only 27% of the 64% are on desktop

That’s roughly the same as Indonesia

Regardless of any metric, it’s a clear sign that China is still a third world nation

[shut sapphire]

@quartz atlas does Singapore army have JAMMER device like radar or portable jammer for electronic warfare ?

[quartz atlas]

no idea

not my division

[hexed citrus]

why would you be interested in a country's ECM capabilities

[shut sapphire]

hmm i just finish play ace combat 5 unsung war and I wonder if those type of jammer does really like a jam some military device@hexed citrus

[hexed citrus]

obviously they jam some devices

[remote remnant]

first time plying on a tv screen lmao

[gloomy tinsel]

@shut sapphire damn you play that game too

[oblique warren]

I think my dads 2013 MacBook Air just crapped itself

And of course while IM using it

Help

[buoyant egret]

[gloomy tinsel]

this guy building 14K$ RIG
but why is it only 2080 not even super and TI but Dual Loop

But that looks soo fancy

Also this happens to me
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734048268199264257/762356179543916564/SAVE_20201004_235017.jpg

[tardy oak]

F

[lucid sundial]

I think my dads 2013 MacBook Air just crapped itself
@oblique warren it's a macbook

what did you expect

[odd juniper]

Also this happens to me
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/734048268199264257/762356179543916564/SAVE_20201004_235017.jpg
@gloomy tinsel reboot ur pc

this guy building 14K$ RIG
but why is it only 2080 not even super and TI but Dual Loop
@gloomy tinsel thats not 14k what cpu even is that

[gloomy tinsel]

i9 10900K

[odd juniper]

ok lol

then its

4k max if the loop is expensive

not sure where the other 10k is coming from

[gloomy tinsel]

the loop is the most expensive I think

[odd juniper]

but not 10k