technology

[vast sand]

2599 for the cheapest 2019 4k model

[gloomy tinsel]

LPDDR3 to LPDDR4 3733

[vast sand]

expensive

[hexed citrus]

my next laptop will most likely be the next gen surface pro

[vast sand]

the Huawei Matebook X Pro looks promising

but I dont use Huawei products

lol

Oneplus laptop when

[hexed citrus]

I've used the surface pro before and microsoft NAILED that thing down

[vast sand]

Surface pro?

Should check on that

[gloomy tinsel]

If you're going for content creating

Zenbook duo is still my taste tho

But everyone got different style

[vast sand]

oof the price creep

yikes

[hexed citrus]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/y2055.png

for the 2nd highest spec

[vast sand]

usd?

[hexed citrus]

ye

[vast sand]

3k sgd

oof

thats like

my entire pc

yeah

[gloomy tinsel]

My pc just worth as my laptop Lel

[vast sand]

my pc is 2.8k without the monitors

[hexed citrus]

1800$ with my student discount

[vast sand]

student discount

[hexed citrus]

god bless having my uni mail attached to my daily MS acc

ez discounts

[vast sand]

probably might just go with the Zenbook 14

[gloomy tinsel]

My family is pretty rich but,I only get 400$ a month if in USD + job 300$ a month

[vast sand]

oof

I get 400SGD per month

as allowance

then I have 2k+ with me

[gloomy tinsel]

It was a family bussines so

Yea

[hexed citrus]

might buy the surface pro later this year

[gloomy tinsel]

Microsoft

[hexed citrus]

depending on what apple does with big sur

[vast sand]

lmao apple

[gloomy tinsel]

Apple on laptop is a big whale

Like

[vast sand]

i would get a Macbook Pro

[hexed citrus]

because I have a feeling my macbook will be obsolete in half a year or so

[gloomy tinsel]

where is the fan and where is the processor unit at

[vast sand]

probably will

[gloomy tinsel]

like whole different place

[vast sand]

arent they making their own arm cpus or smth

[hexed citrus]

ye

custom silicon

[vast sand]

interesting

if they can nail it

its gonna be good

[hexed citrus]

also yukino is good civ

[gloomy tinsel]

What Yukino?

[vast sand]

my profile pic

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

[vast sand]

i wanna get the VN

lol

[hexed citrus]

even if apple nails their transition

they're cockblocking all the devs that are using macs

[vast sand]

lmfao

[hexed citrus]

that develop for anything but apple shit

like me

[vast sand]

would take time to adjust

[hexed citrus]

because now we'll have to build a separate repo for apple builds

then for windows and linux separate

[gloomy tinsel]

So they said I china.
You will got kicked from the place you work, If you use apple product

I was thinking

tf this is soo fake

[vast sand]

apple products are pretty good

[gloomy tinsel]

Yea

[vast sand]

some of them are actually good

[gloomy tinsel]

But tbh I don't trust in their laptop unit

Excpet on phone

[hexed citrus]

the only good shit they made were the retina macbooks

[vast sand]

like the reasons why iPhones perform so much better is because the app devs only need to focus on optimising the few phones they release each year

[hexed citrus]

and the iphones till the 5th gen

they don't even have to optimize

iOS already does that for them

[vast sand]

lmao

apple does everything for their customers

[hexed citrus]

you just specify which phones you wanna support and it will tell you

hey dumbass you can't use this

[vast sand]

lmao

[gloomy tinsel]

[vast sand]

i like their iPads tho

[hexed citrus]

the ipad is a bloody monstrosity

literally smth in between iOS and MacOS

[vast sand]

lmao

[gloomy tinsel]

Monster for all Device

like How Ipad pro 2018 still perform as good as 2020 ipad pro

[hexed citrus]

like if u wanna advertise it as a pc then let it run macos

[vast sand]

i just want an iPad for Procreate and watching videos on my bed

lol

coz im lazy af

[hexed citrus]

if you want it to be a tablet then run bloody iOS

but don't try to make a frankenstein monstrosity by trying to get iOS to be almost like macos

[vast sand]

lmfao

watch them release another kind of iPad

[hexed citrus]

seriously the mouse support they added is a fuking joke

[vast sand]

so they'll have like a tablet

then a tablet/laptop thing

then a laptop itself

[hexed citrus]

they basically wanna copy the surface pro

[gloomy tinsel]

Now I rememmbered dual boot tablets are a Joke

[vast sand]

[hexed citrus]

but don't wanna put macos on it bcz ppl will call them out

[gloomy tinsel]

Android and Windows 10 like

[vast sand]

lmao

[gloomy tinsel]

Dude wtf is this

in just 200$ tablet

Getting Into valorant and blue screened

KEKW

[vast sand]

Samsung S20 Ultra is a joke

[gloomy tinsel]

But most device copy apple

like

[hexed citrus]

let's be honest

they copy each other

[gloomy tinsel]

They did

[vast sand]

apple with their thick bezels

[hexed citrus]

the moment someone makes smth ppl buy

everyone else copies that

[vast sand]

AirPods

[gloomy tinsel]

notch came in with iPhone x
other company this is a huge move to use

COPY PASTE

[vast sand]

the bezels on iPhones are chonk

also 60hz display

[gloomy tinsel]

Well I used 3 daily driver tho

[vast sand]

[gloomy tinsel]

Still keep iPhone 8 plus

just for gaming

kekw

[vast sand]

Samsung is a joke

the S20 Ultra

[gloomy tinsel]

Grandma and Grandpa always like samsung

Me: Sony

[vast sand]

You can get the OnePlus 8 Pro for like 3/4th the price

[gloomy tinsel]

Yea

also

[vast sand]

or the P40 Pro

[gloomy tinsel]

Huawei got good details on its camera

even a 300$ Nova 5T

[vast sand]

the huawei ban wasnt a good idea lol

[gloomy tinsel]

Perform like P30 just no moonlens or tf that was

Telephoto?

[vast sand]

now huawei is developing their own platform

and its been pretty good

[gloomy tinsel]

Android
iOS
Huawei OS Im gonna rule the world

Feels like

[vast sand]

windows phone

[gloomy tinsel]

It dies

sad

[vast sand]

sad

[gloomy tinsel]

still rememmber the iPhone 11 pro max that have broken glass?

the cost to fix it 6 Million IDR

Totaly blow my brain

Thats just back glass panel

[vast sand]

wtf

lol

just get a new phone

[gloomy tinsel]

Instead

just cover it with black AUG case

30$ move

6 Million IDR was like
Yo Im getting K20 pro

[vast sand]

[gloomy tinsel]

Overpriced in service stuff
Always apple move

Even my friend. Buy a iPhone 7 plus with fingerprint not working

only 180$

128gb

It feels like

you get 2 iphone 7 plus with fingerprint not working and still keep another (around 100$) for daily stuff

[vast sand]

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

I remember Buying the S9 plus for my GF

it fall on the edge of the stairs

[vast sand]

lol

rip

F

[gloomy tinsel]

it the glass in the back

Broke like it was getting shot by bullet

[vast sand]

lol

rip

F

[gloomy tinsel]

but only the glass

nothing broke other than that

[vast sand]

oof

[gloomy tinsel]

I buy it because she was still using the 6s plus

[vast sand]

s9 good phone

[gloomy tinsel]

the She sold the S9 and buy xs max her own

[vast sand]

rip

[gloomy tinsel]

I mean its not a bad idea

that time She sold it like

5.5 million idr

[vast sand]

wow

wtf

[gloomy tinsel]

but now fully working second unit. still looking fresh like new

was like

6 or 7 million IDR

S10 was around that range too

for second unit

[vast sand]

[gloomy tinsel]

But I wondered why She didn't just buy the 256gb

and think 64gb is just enough

[vast sand]

64gb isnt enough

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

I mean boy can use 64gb phone because its only filled with game and screenshots

but girls

always take like 40 pics a day

[vast sand]

[gloomy tinsel]

So Im still brain dead to go on Fullscreen phone gaming experience

Thats why I keep my iPhone 8 plus

I like bezels on iPhone 8 plus.
but technology have change

My hope was the SE plus if it came out

Just normal boys Storage.
Filled with Games

meanwhile girls.
PHOTO,Cached data,Always wireless charging, and a lot of other stuff

[subtle hawk]

and GBs of social media app caches

[wooden quest]

I have a potentially faulty 1 TB hard drive that I already moved all my data out of. What are some uses of a potentially faulty hard drive?

[hexed citrus]

none

you scrap that

[wooden quest]

it hasn't failed yet tho

[hexed citrus]

if it already has faults then you shouldn't use it

period

you can take out the magnets if you need them

or the motor

everything else is p much useless

[wooden quest]

alright

[severe falcon]

you take the platters out and add to your collection

[wooden quest]

this would be my first

[desert olive]

any C# people here? The Student object here is being passed by reference right?

Student[] students = new Student[3];
Student pablo = new Student("Pablo");

students[0] = pablo;
students[1] = pablo;
students[2] = pablo;

meaning index 0 should be the same as index 1, and when I make changes to any index, the others which are in different indices are affected as well

[hexed citrus]

well if you assign the same instance to all 3 then obviously

[desert olive]

Thanks, literally scrambling my head on how to make an inventory tetris mechanic on a game I'm working on.

[subtle hawk]

yes

[paper marsh]

So, this is all choices I have for buying laptop
Can you review for this?

1. HP Pavilion Gaming 15-ec1046ax ==> 863$
   CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 4600H
   GPU : GTX 1650 (4GB GDDR5)
   RAM : 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
   DISPLAY : 15.6 " (1920x1080) Full HD IPS 144Hz
   SSD/HDD : 512 GB SSD M.2
   OS : Windows 10 Home (64 Bit)

2. MSI GF63 Thin 9SCXR-608TH ==> 963$
   CPU : Intel Core i7-9750H
   GPU : GTX 1650 Max-Q (4GB GDDR6)
   RAM: 16 GB DDR4 2666 MHz
   DISPLAY : 15.6 " (1920x1080) Full HD IPS 120Hz
   SSD/HDD : 512 GB SSD M.2
   OS : Windows 10 Home (64 Bit)

3. Lenovo Legion 5-82B5001CTA ==> 900$
   CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 4600H
   GPU : GTX 1650 (4GB GDDR6)
   RAM : 8 GB DDR4 3200 MHz
   DISPLAY : 15.6 " (1920x1080) Full HD IPS 120Hz
   SSD/HDD : 512 GB SSD M.2
   OS : Windows 10 Home (64 Bit)

Feel free to give any suggestions.

[vagrant holly]

1st or second

third option and first are litterally the same thing but 1st option has a better monitor than 3rd despite costing less

[vast sand]

@paper marsh What are you looking for in a laptop?

Battery life?

Performance?

Portability?

Because if its gaming performance I would reccomend 1st or 3rd

The GTX 1650 Max-Q is basically a underclocked version of the standard GTX 1650 Mobile

So it would perform slightly worse

8GB of Ram tho

Also anyone knows what is a Harman EQ curve?

My equalizer is setup similar to that

[subtle hawk]

probably to reflect the human's hearing response?

the thing is that curve is a relative loudness for the same amplitude

[vast sand]

[remote remnant]

steam tried encrypting my files wth

[hidden night]

what kind of different for Samsung Evo Plus in term of batch SD card

[subtle hawk]

do yall know anything about audio interfaces

@vast sand

[remote remnant]

the ones that improves sound cap of a pc?

[subtle hawk]

no, its to connect my guitar to pc

i guess it can be also used for that now that i think of it

[hexed citrus]

https://b2.crackwatch.com/file/crackwatch-temp/hj06f91c6.jpg

[vagrant holly]

Pog

[vast sand]

@subtle hawk

i only know what an equalizer is

[subtle hawk]

@vast sand

[vast sand]

[vagrant holly]

@vast sand you probably figured it out by now but the harman curve is basically a standard for audio, it's a curve that visualizes how loud/quiet sounds should be at certain frequencies, the closer the sound reproduction of your head/earphones is to the harman curve, the more it's supposed to sound like it would sound if you weren't wearing them and you were instead sitting in an isolated environment with good speakers

[vast sand]

so basically if ur equaliser follows the harman curve it gonna sound good?

my earpiece is pretty flat

[vagrant holly]

i'm not sure how much an equalizer can do to make your earpiece sound good, your hardware is only going to perform good as it can, no amount fiddling with equalizer is going to make some off-brand chinese headphone sound as good as some decent sennheisers

[vast sand]

sennheisers

I used to have the Momentum

[vagrant holly]

it was just the first "good" brand that came to my mind

it doesn't have to be sennheisers

plenty of other brands that are good

bose are good too

[vast sand]

my earpieces are pretty decent

Final Audio E3000

Read quite a few reviews

[vagrant holly]

you can go and match the harman curve if you want

but at the end of the day, you don't have to let some standard decide what sounds good for you

just go with what you think you like best

the harman curve is a good "standard" line

some people like more bass

some people like less

use it as a baseline and start from there

[vast sand]

[vagrant holly]

https://youtu.be/tVQsxLfKPNI

[wooden quest]

that old styled video reminds of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3klMcY8amOY

[vast sand]

[shell basin]

what's the problem here?

[hexed citrus]

@shell basin a XOR NAND gate is made out of 4 NAND gates

[shell basin]

Kinda confusing tho

[hexed citrus]

not really

it's simple logical algebra

[subtle hawk]

p^q = pq' + p'q

and you probably know how to make NOT and OR from NAND

[tardy oak]

[hexed citrus]

that sounds arrogant as hell

from both sides

[tardy oak]

Arrogant? easyaspi314 the Great is not arrogant at all

but literally this dude has been bugging us about updates

And a Soon™ wasn't enough

[hexed citrus]

you can just forbid them from opening issues or make comments

[tardy oak]

True.

[vagrant holly]

that's some yandev level answer

[buoyant sapphire]

quick question: how much is one GB?

[severe falcon]

what do you mean

[buoyant sapphire]

comparing 1gb to MB

sorry I forgot to be specific

[severe falcon]

1024 for data, 1000 for storage

[buoyant sapphire]

thank, fam. playing two games right now so I couldn't make a quick search

[hexed citrus]

GB - gigabyte, 8 Gb = 1 GB, 1000 MB = 1 GB
Gb - gigabit, 1000 Mb = 1 Gb
GiB - gibibyte, 1024 MiB = 1 GiB, 1 GB is aprox 0.93 GiB

[severe falcon]

yes but the file system uses GiB

[hexed citrus]

might be confusing a bit why there is GB and GiB

[severe falcon]

the magic of advertising

[hexed citrus]

but it's to explain to laymans that one is in base 1000

and the other is in base 1024

[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

no

it's sealed

[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

but it can still leak over years

[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

it's basically going my your gut

when you feel like it's underperforming and when it's usually out of warranty is when you replace it

[wary depot]

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[remote remnant]

when it leaked, youre instantly fucked

[hexed citrus]

not really

depends where it leaks

if it's at the radiator connection (common place) then you're safe unless you installed the rad at the top

[subtle hawk]

imagine caring about leaking on top of motor underperforming

[lucid sundial]

High quality air coolers will preform similarly to aios in most cases that have decent air flow (literally any non itx/dtx) and will be more reliable than aios. Tldr imo just get a high quality air cooler unless you really care about sex appeal

[hexed citrus]

air coolers also are GIGANTIC

not to mention you're suspending all that weight off of the motherboard with a pair of screws

unlike a aio where most of the weight is bolted down to the chassis

[desert olive]

In C#, why is it that
obj.val returns true
obj?.val ?? false returns false

when I just added a null propagation and null coalescing operator

tried using the debugger console while on a breakpoint

that's what happens

[hexed citrus]

you SURE that the left hand is not null?

[desert olive]

I am definitely sure

I used a breakpoint and checked the local variables

[hexed citrus]

what was the value of val?

[desert olive]

true

[subtle hawk]

are you sure about operator precedence?

try adding parentheses

[hexed citrus]

yeah ?? takes precedence

[desert olive]

parentheses separating the &&?

[hexed citrus]

actually

if my memory serves me right

[subtle hawk]

also why are you logical anding nulls

null test should happen before

[desert olive]

hitObject is a returned value from a list of objects that does FirstOrDefault

[hexed citrus]

and default is null?

[desert olive]

yes

[hexed citrus]

why not make it false then

since you're already doing that in the check

[desert olive]

FirstOrDefault is from System.Linq

so reference types are always returned null

[subtle hawk]

I mean, (hitObject?.IsStrong == null) && (strongInitiator == null)

[hexed citrus]

no need for parentheses there

[subtle hawk]

== has more precedence than && ?

[hexed citrus]

obv

[desert olive]

so first I'd null check hitObject then check its IsStrong property?

or is it null = false

[subtle hawk]

ah yeah

[hexed citrus]

in what lang the logical AND takes precedence over equality?

[subtle hawk]

nothing

I forgot

I just add parentheses because I'm paranoid

[desert olive]

so do you think whats happening in my statement is hitObject?.IsStrong ?? (false && strongInitiator == null)?

because this would make sense given the output

[hexed citrus]

possibly

[subtle hawk]

likely

that && has more precedence than ??

[hexed citrus]

it does

in C# that is

[desert olive]

well parenthesis would save the day since that has a higher precedence over anything right?

[subtle hawk]

so if hitObject isn't null it'll just take the logic value of IsStrong field

[hexed citrus]

parenthesis just split the logic

[subtle hawk]

which is true

[desert olive]

wait false && false would still return false

[hexed citrus]

yes it will

[desert olive]

then it would still be hitObject?.IsStrong ?? false in the end

[subtle hawk]

because true is not null

so it doesn't take the alternative value

[desert olive]

oh right

the actual issue is the logical order

[hexed citrus]

been ages since I had written something substantially complex in C#

[subtle hawk]

yeah, we are dealing with PEMDAS over tens of operators

[hexed citrus]

looks like the lang evolved nicely since last time

[desert olive]

the actual code didn't use parentheses

so maybe it's checking it in the wrong order

[subtle hawk]

https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/operator_precedence

c++ example

[hexed citrus]

that's for cpp

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/operators/

here

[subtle hawk]

thanks

[hexed citrus]

it goes top to bottom

in terms of precedence

[desert olive]

you're right

&& is higher than ??

[hexed citrus]

lately been having fun with one of these boys

[flint bobcat]

@hexed citrus whats that

[hexed citrus]

what it says on the tin

[flint bobcat]

radio

[hexed citrus]

software defined radio

[gloomy tinsel]

Soo My laptop use HDD.
How to move System data safely?
I'm scared it doesn't boot or something else

[vast sand]

Anyone can recommend an IEM

kinda bored of the sound signature of my Final Audio E3000

[subtle hawk]

@gloomy tinsel are you moving to a new hdd??

[gloomy tinsel]

No I change to M.2

[subtle hawk]

and does it have more storage

[gloomy tinsel]

I want it separated.
So M.2 for the boot

so it boots faster

[subtle hawk]

hm

[gloomy tinsel]

Getting 100% of Disk usage at boot sucks

[subtle hawk]

the thing is you need to do disk cloning

[gloomy tinsel]

So I decided to use M.2 for the System

[subtle hawk]

in order to have the boot still intact

if your boot partition and OS partition can fit into ssd then yeah you can

can I have a screenshot of disk management? assuming you're on windows

[gloomy tinsel]

Im not experienced to do this. So maybe I'll just go to nearest store

[subtle hawk]

yeah you should do that because the method I usually do requires you to boot into linux live usb

and type some commands that are dangerous

but I'm pretty sure there is a live media just for this

[lunar patrol]

Anyone can recommend an IEM
@vast sand I'm very happy with my etymotic ER3SE. I prefer a neutral sound sig (I have HD600s for desktop listening), and the ER3SE's are very analytic/neutral. If you don't prefer that kind of sound sig then the ER3XR is a (very slightly) V-shaped version that may fit your preferences better

[vast sand]

I heard of those before

[quartz atlas]

Ie800

Best non-custom IEMs I have had the pleasure of listening to

[vast sand]

Expensive

[shut sapphire]

what a busy day today

don't mind the plate

[subtle hawk]

nice plate

[remote remnant]

That plate is deeper that what we have at home

[hexed citrus]

that's heresy

eating @ pc

[vagrant holly]

imagine eating a the dining table like a civilized person

[hexed citrus]

imagine not eating a the dining table lice a normal person

[flint bobcat]

Bruh

That monitor

[tardy oak]

Hmm, CPU is 88°C, fans at 75% speed
Apple thermal control in a nutshell

Fun time's over, Apple

FANS GO BRRRRRR

[lucid sundial]

Initiate jet engine

Wireless cooling go BRRRRR-DED

[hexed citrus]

what's that

[wintry forge]

the back of a laptop

[hexed citrus]

the ARM macbook?

[lucid sundial]

2019 MacBook air

[hexed citrus]

the air has a bloody simple heatsink?

[subtle hawk]

yes

also wireless cooling

[lucid sundial]

See how apple engineers put a fan but no heat pipe?

They're geniuses who have developed wireless cooling 🤣

[wintry forge]

that's bs

[vagrant holly]

so THAT's what they mean by "think different"

[subtle hawk]

yep

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUaJ8pDlxi8

[shut sapphire]

WHO NEEDS COOLING ANYWAY

[gloomy tinsel]

dfuq

My R5 3600 only goes 74°C at max workload

How you get that high

[subtle hawk]

either old pc or laptop

[severe falcon]

bruh even my old dell had its kernel be intelligent enough to shut down if it reached 90 C

how is that comp even running at 99

[lucid sundial]

90C isn't desirable but it shouldn't cause long term damage for modern processors

On the other hand how TF is your notebook not thermal throttling?

[subtle hawk]

yeah or even not shutting down

[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

you change that setting in your BIOS

to ignore the case intrusion sensor

[wary depot]

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[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

no

[wary depot]

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[hexed citrus]

no idea

check your motherboard and aio manual

[wary depot]

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[lunar patrol]

some mobos have features to still run LEDs when computer is powered off

check your bios

[hexed citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMtlKWrM7qM

they did it again

[desert olive]

router doesn't have option to change bands, ever since the neighbors got wifi, I keep losing connection in specific rooms

playing AL and AK gets intermittent now

[tardy oak]

how did I not know of this list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/April_Fools'_Day_Request_for_Comments

[severe falcon]

"IP over Avian Carriers" is the best one

[hexed citrus]

those are old news

you haven't seen IP over QR codes

[wary depot]

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[wooden quest]

Is it a bad time to buy a PC rn?

I know with covid, things are harder to get and prices may have been higher

[vagrant holly]

prices are higher than usual yes, factories have been manufacturing at a slower rate and delivery has become much harder (tho amazon is still doing an amazing job despite everything) and it all lead to a price hike

[wooden quest]

Darn

[desert olive]

plus the possibility of people buying more parts/prebuilts/laptops/etc. due to WFH status

its a big chain reaction

[mental coyote]

Eh. I know I ended up upgrading. It'd been a coupla years.

[desert olive]

it ain't much but its honest work

finally moved on from 8gb RAM

[mental coyote]

Been sticking at 16 since my last computer.

[subtle hawk]

my current pc is 16 too

[buoyant egret]

Interesting

[lucid sundial]

wait what there're 12 gb x 2 kits on the market?

[remote remnant]

Disk 0 (C:)
100%

[subtle hawk]

that's activity, not storage

[remote remnant]

I know

[gloomy tinsel]

must be HDD

[shut sapphire]

[gloomy tinsel]

I just knew ipad generation are easy to fix

but repair price are just OVERKILL

[vagrant holly]

sounds like apple

nothing to see here

[wintry forge]

drop your phone and pay up $600

[flint bobcat]

repair urself

[lucid sundial]

Only reason why I don't buy apple is bc I refuse to support their disgustingly blatent anti-consumerist business practices

[desert olive]

ok I think I need to re-reapply thermal paste

[hidden night]

Whats so good bout V-gen SD card anyway

let alone never seen one before

[gloomy tinsel]

@lucid sundial the reason of their parts is soo Expensive
because apple just want their units to sell more.
also the repair price in apple store was like 3x than you buy parts from Ifix.
No Wonder why apple so STONKS

[lucid sundial]

I mean, Tim Cook admitted that revenue was down after they started their battery exchange program

[desert olive]

ok so those numbers are normal

my PSU isn't pumping enough power to supply the whole system

that explains a lot of things

[vital juniper]

Hey, was directed here by a buddy. I want to install a Ryzen 5 3600 on a A320M motherboard. We're not so sure if I need to update my BIOS, since the version that says it support newer generations of Ryzen processors, is already installed. It says here that it was last updated on August 1st, of last year?

Whilst the update, third one down, says the update came out half-a-month beforehand

So, Im generally wondering if I can just plop in the Ryzen 5 without worry of anything dying

[lucid sundial]

there shouldn't be a concern about something dying. If you put in an incompatible processor, you should just get a boot error

what I would be concerned about is if the vrm on your board can handle 3rd gen ryzen

I'd look more into your board and compatibility lists

unless you REALLY need the upgrade I wouldn't do it right now

am4 is set to expire after 2020

[subtle hawk]

can anyone here teach me how to datamined？

[shut sapphire]

hmm

well ez

just look at their files

[vital juniper]

@lucid sundial I saw some guy do a video of using the same exact motherboard with a Ryzen 5 3600. The board can only handle 65w as well, and the 3600 pulls 65w

[lucid sundial]

the tdp of the 3600 is 65 watts

power draw and tdp aren't the same

the tdp is amd's measurement of expected heat output

[somber cloud]

@subtle hawk why would u wanna datamine and for what?

[sturdy wasp]

Hi, how many watts does my PSU need to run a Ryzen 5 3600 with RTX 2060 Super plus future overclock?

[hidden night]

750

least

[sturdy wasp]

Then what about the UPS unit how much does it need?

[subtle hawk]

650

[hexed citrus]

data mining is against the ToS of both discord and the game so please keep it out of this channel @somber cloud @subtle hawk

[somber cloud]

yea got it

[desert olive]

man

took me 2 days to fix a display issue

[somber cloud]

oof

9 hours of print, round 2 starting now...

[gloomy tinsel]

The intergated graphic eat a gigabite of ram?

[severe falcon]

you need to optimize the retraction settings, look at all the nubs on the inside of those links

[desert olive]

1GB RAM is hardware reserved apparently

[gloomy tinsel]

Im wondering these laptop to use with their budget

the price is the (jt) part
Juta mean Million IDR

Because TUF A15 battery life sucks. I sold it

[hexed citrus]

the asus or the lenovo

look at reviews and see what their actual performance is

[gloomy tinsel]

But If I want like the gigantic Storage I can just go with the asus right?

because its SSD+HDD

[hexed citrus]

depends really

it could also be possible to install a HDD in the lenovo one

but you'll only know from reviews

[gloomy tinsel]

Im picking the ASUS

its best choice so far for me

[gloomy tinsel]

eh?

4300U isn't as strong as it seems tho

but in term of benchmark

its pretty weird

[vagrant holly]

ryzen 3 is new gen

4300 is new gen

3500 is last gen

you have to look at the thousand to figure out what gen it is

latest gen is a pretty big upgrade from last gen that's why on paper the ryzen 3 looks so much better than the ryzen 5 despite being only 1 gen apart

[gloomy tinsel]

But I5 gen 10 on Asus 409JA is better than Ryzen 3 4300U?

I want to know if it more powerful

I've seen benchmark but some channel said I5 is better and Ryzen 3 is better

it confuse me up

but Instead arguing about that

Maybe Im just going to pick the best one for me

Because laptops are not for gaming purpose

Maybe just for Video editing, School stuff and others

Except if it said gaming laptop

[gloomy tinsel]

[wooden quest]

one day i hope to become a c++ competitive programming god

[severe falcon]

@wooden quest have fun
https://icpc.global/worldfinals/problems

good luck beating the russians

[wooden quest]

i thought the japanese and chinese people were on top

[wintry forge]

how else are they going to steal data from america

[buoyant egret]

[wooden quest]

[gloomy tinsel]

wut

[severe falcon]

the russians dominate the icpc

[gloomy tinsel]

Its time to give my grandpa a new phone

well its not the best one but enough for him

[spice plover]

Something something

[desert olive]

what does overclocking a CPU contribute to? I'm thinking of overclocking my AMD A8 APU and I don't know what benefits does it give.

[flint bobcat]

It increases clock speed

[desert olive]

so more processing cycles?

means faster PC?

I'll bet in my 2 cents and OC from 3.3ghz to 4

[vagrant holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6BXwCJtaZE

TECH DRAMA

TECH DRAMA

TECH DRAMA

[tardy oak]

what does overclocking a CPU contribute to? I'm thinking of overclocking my AMD A8 APU and I don't know what benefits does it give.
@desert olive overclocking increases the processor's maximum speed.
This can increase performance, but produces more heat and can strain the processor (possibly causing damage) without proper cooling.

[desert olive]

what temps should the processor be?

I should look up on fans first if this is the case

[tardy oak]

It depends on the processor, but typically they are rated to about 100°C.

[desert olive]

just opened and just running Azur Lane on Nox

though I might look into CPU fans

although I just cleaned my fan with soap (making sure I don't damage the electrical parts)

maybe I'll be safe, I also just reapplied thermal paste and cleaned the heatsink too

[tardy oak]

Wait wtf
AMD rates it to 76°C

[desert olive]

in their official site the max boost clock is 3.9ghz

so that means that's the safest max I can OC it to?

[tardy oak]

not necessarily
boost clock is not normal clock
boost clock is for short bursts, and many will only do it if it is cool enough

OCing is pretty complicated and I am not the most knowledgeable on it.

[desert olive]

how much bottlenecking do you think I'm getting with an AMD A8 7670-K and NViDiA GeForce 1050 Ti with 16GB RAM?

[tardy oak]

Probably the CPU

[desert olive]

thought so

[tardy oak]

But yeah I would recommend OCing in small intervals and doing your research.

Because the last thing you want is to have your PC constantly crashing or even worse, a paperweight

[desert olive]

by small intervals you mean increasing ghz by small values right

[tardy oak]

yeah, as in not jumping from 3.3ghz to 4

[desert olive]

at least for the CPU

base clock is 3.6ghz

so maybe jumping it to 3.8 then 4

[tardy oak]

yeah do 3.8 for a bit, see how temperatures are doing and make sure everything is stable. Then try 4

[desert olive]

alright thanks

[hexed citrus]

even if you overclock it

it won't give you enough to compensate for the bottleneck

[desert olive]

yeah a CPU upgrade would definitely be the best

but I'll just have to stick with this current setup for now, if I were to buy a newer and better CPU, that'd mean I have to change the motherboard as well

of course swap out the RAM in the process and get DDR4

[tardy oak]

Ugh, really regretting selecting the "Check image by SHA1 sums" option in Clonezilla
Now it is calculating 500,000 checksums

Estimates an hour
for the checksums alone

that isn't even counting the actual transfer over USB 2.0

But hopefully this new SSD and 8 GB RAM upgrade will make my old Windows laptop a little more usable until it decides to actually die

[desert olive]

I was planning on applying thermal paste and doing a bit of cleaning to my 10 year old laptop.

its not really worth it but at least give a new life to it.

[tardy oak]

yeah let's just say Windows 10 isn't really happy with 4 GB and a 5400 RPM spinner

On a first gen i5 lol

[desert olive]

yeah its gotten rather demanding lately

[tardy oak]

it is obnoxious

[desert olive]

rather install Linux on it or use an earlier Windows OS like 7

despite being EOL

[tardy oak]

yeah...

[desert olive]

I heard Ubuntu is good for beginners

though Linux isn't really good with gaming per-se

[tardy oak]

Ubuntu is indeed good for beginners

Linux is a lot more friendly than it used to be

In general

You could definitely get away with never opening a bash shell

[desert olive]

just need an OS that has a desktop GUI

[tardy oak]

God, I still have flashbacks Ubuntu 12.04
Something goes slightly wrong and you have to fix it in a terminal

I mean not that I mind using a Bash shell nowadays lul

[grand comet]

aye
who excited about bignavi?

[hallow plover]

Not me

Who uses AMD gpus lol

[grand comet]

people who know how to use money correctly

lol

at least since rtx is a thing

[hallow plover]

Nvidia is for people who want reliable performance

[grand comet]

lmao

yea

maybe

gtx 1000 downwards

[hallow plover]

Nah

Turing is quite reliable

[grand comet]

lmao

yea

reliable

but overpriced af

and unerpowered af

[hallow plover]

And your little Radeon VII failed miserably

[grand comet]

turing is literally the worst architecture

in the last decade

its not "my little"

im not a fanboy

i currently have a 1070ti

lol

[hallow plover]

Then why are you going to big navi

[grand comet]

i just buy what is giving best performance per €

because

rtx

is overpriced junk?

jeez who pays 1300€ for a graphics card that is gonna be surpassed by a 500€ one 2years later?

[hallow plover]

Those rumors were just speculation

[grand comet]

whoever pays this much money

(2080ti)

is just plain stupid

[hallow plover]

Meh

Ampere will be different

[grand comet]

ya no

[hallow plover]

@grand comet Change my mind

[grand comet]

that leatherjacked guy won't go cheaper

i HIGHLY doubt it

[mental coyote]

I'm just surprised Yamato hasn't jumped into this one, yet.

[hallow plover]

Big Navi is likely going to be expensive due to them using a TSMC node

[grand comet]

to change my opinion about nvidia the 3090 would have to be less than 1000

and bignavi a failure

which i doubt

the 5700xt as a hybridversion

was a big win

now going full rdna?

it cant go slower

so it's all about the pricing

[hallow plover]

well suit yourself. We will see how the performance numbers match up with the pricing

[grand comet]

pricing

is all that matters

i don't care if it's going to be 2080ti or 2080S level performance "Only"

if it's for heck of alot cheaper

im in

[hallow plover]

Price to performance is what i'm talking about

[grand comet]

yes

well

2080ti is one of the worst price to performance to have been released

in

what

5gens?

xD

and it's much worse than things back then

lol

1650super is a good gpu for it's price

but other than that you are always better off with either rx500 or the 5700xt/nonxt

or a used pascal gpu

1. i doubt nvidia will change their pricepolitics now... they know people are stupid enough to spend 1200€

on a gpu just because it's "the best"

[hallow plover]

That's why you go for one of the more midrange cards

like the 3070

[grand comet]

2. i dont know what navi will bring us... but it cant be worse than 5700xt... so since 5700xt can beat 2070S in some cases we're in for at least 2080S/2080ti performance
   pricing will be the main concern here

@hallow plover what if the 3070 will be 600 or even 700€?

[hallow plover]

@grand comet more like 500-600USD

[grand comet]

500 is still quite alot for a xx70

compare with 1070/970/770

they have all had better price to performance

[hallow plover]

400-600 is what im guessing

USD that is

[grand comet]

lowrange 3070s for 400usd would be fine

i doubt it tho

that would mean 900series pricing

and if 3070s are 400usd or sth

[hallow plover]

Maybe that might happen

who knows

[grand comet]

3090 should be <900

which i doubt again

[hallow plover]

who knows until they launch

[grand comet]

because they would completely obliterate the meaning of existence for the 2000gpus

which they still probably are selling quite alot of right now

again yes this is all speculation

[hallow plover]

My guess is 3090 is 1000USD
3080 600-700USD
3070 400-500USD
3060 200-300USD

approx

[grand comet]

but based on what nvidia did with rtx... pricing is gonna be fucked up even more than 2000series...

i hope not

if you are right hats down to you

competition is all that is needed

we'll see

all we need is amd to make nvidia sweat a bit

also based on what we know with leaks

3090 is roughly same performance as the best bignavi card

"leaks"

leaks and rumors let's say that

[mental coyote]

Here's one. What do you think about Apple swapping Macbooks out to ARM silicon? I wonder if PC makers will slightly follow suit.

[grand comet]

any competition is welcome in any market

so even if burgerking starts making cpus i would be excited

lol

[mental coyote]

I certainly agree. Let 'em get in there. It'd keep Teams Red/Green/Blue more on point.

[quartz atlas]

u got to understand

$1000 gpus are not targeted at people like you

same like $1000 processors are not targeted at you too

nor $1000 pc cases or motherboards

saying a $1000 gpu is a bad product is just objectively wrong

there are always people willing to pay top $ for top performance

u wanting top lvl perf for mid tier $ is just a extremely strange sense of entitlement

top level products have top level pricing, exactly so that mid tier products can be cheaper and for the masses

its just like how f2p games are supported by the 1% whales so that people who dont whale can also enjoy the game

20series was an expensive as fuck launch not only because there was no competition, and lets be honest, there isnt any at all, but because of the extremely high RnD costs of ray-tracing.

its literally paving the way for the next gen

without the RnD nvidia put in, we would still have been stuck on lighting tech thats been around for decades.

like it or not, nvidia is a huge driver for graphical quality for games and other applications

[tardy oak]

USB 2.0

Wish I at least had an eSATA cable

30MB/s isn't even USB 2.0 max speed

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tardy oak]

Clonezilla just stopped

Gonna leave it overnight but I think this clone is rip

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vagrant holly]

people who put figures in their pcs should perish

[quartz atlas]

imagine shaming other people's kinks smh

[vagrant holly]

shame

🔔

[hexed citrus]

I put a figure in my case

eat shit

[vagrant holly]

SHAME

🔔 🔔 🔔

[tardy oak]

Yup, left it overnight, the progress didn't change
ｈｅｒｅ　ｗｅ　ｇｏ　ａｇａｉｎ

This better not be a faulty drive or I'll flip

[severe falcon]

Yamas figure is french maid thanos, and the lighting is set to infinity stones

[buoyant egret]

people who put figures in their pcs should perish
@vagrant holly Well DAMN

[mental coyote]

Seems Cyberius opened up the firing squad. On himself.

[tardy oak]

Lmfao
just went to shut down and explorer.exe segfaulted

[hexed citrus]

[tardy oak]

Smh the windows equivalent of a segfault

[hexed citrus]

there is no "windows equivalent" of a segfault

a segfault is a segfault regardless of OS

[tardy oak]

But yeah, as I shut it down it said that "the instruction at 0xicantrememberthenumberitgavemebutitisntimportant tried to access memory at address 0x0000000000000000"

Tried to get a picture of it but it just closed itself

[grand comet]

@quartz atlas it's not about targeting. I can afford any gpu on the gaming market right now if i want to.
It's about the pricehike inbetween generations... a jump of 300€~ is ridiculous... even for the "Highest end"
Turing is terrible performance so the pricehike isn't even justified xD.
The problem is also that Nvidia went like "let's let pascal running and add turing to the pool, 2080ti is 30~ish% faster so it's gonna be 30~ish% more expensive"

Yes i admit that we MIGHT see lower prices as rtx 2000 was just a "beta-release" with an immature architecture and technology

Saying that these GPUs are not targeted at people like me is not a valid argument because the prev gen (same level gpu) was still priced well enough and the pricedifferences inbetween the previous generatiosn didnt make huge jumps... we always got xx80ti performance one generation alter with the xx70 gpu with the price for a xx70 gpu or inbetween xx70 and xx80...

Defending now that "it's expensive because it's the fastest" makes no sense at all. Im not looking at "it's the most expensive" i look at "hey the BEST previous gen model was 300€ cheaper and was the "best of the best" back then"

Also... will you still bring the "it's not meant for people like xy" - argument when xx60 gpus would someday be priced at 500~ish?

[hexed citrus]

it's a bleeding edge architecture

obviously the 1st gen is gonna be expensive and underperforming

[tardy oak]

…you just copied the partition already, now what are you doing?

This was a mistake

This better fucking work

"Use Clonezilla!" they said
"It'd be easy!" they said

[tardy oak]

Aaaand USB decided to disconnect and stop being recognized 90% of the way through...
time to hook it up internally I guess

[tardy oak]

[tardy oak]

I think I have a dud SSD 🔫

[hexed citrus]

more like your image is done for

instead of your storage device

[tardy oak]

Nah, definitely the drive is bad
Because we got it used and it gave a different error the last time

I do have a 1TB SSHD which I can use, once I transfer everything off

But I was hoping I could keep that in my PC

Definitely would be better than the fucking 300 MB/s of the drive that was in it

Slower than fuck

[gloomy tinsel]

So I found my USB C connector in my phone

Is a bit wiggly when I plug the charger

and the phone wont charge if I didn't add some pressure on the cable

And then I put Eraser below it

it can charge but if I move the phone it wont charge

is it better to just replace the Charging board?

or just plier the usb C port so its a bit tight

(NOTE FE)

[tardy oak]

good job
you cloned it

fuck it, this laptop's gonna have a D drive

[pliant kindle]

L drive?

[tardy oak]

It is hooked up to my other PC via sata

[pliant kindle]

ah

[tardy oak]

IT'S ALIVE!
IT'S ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE!!!!

Now I just need the new CMOS battery to ship and it will be complete

And it is running windows at a sane speed

It is not gonna win any benchmarks, but it doesn't take a whole minute to load the desktop anymore and it launches Firefox in under 10 seconds

If I need speed, I have my desktop

[azure pine]

hmmm is it fine to ask about drive problems here?

[hexed citrus]

ye

[subtle hawk]

why does my laptop have 16gb yet armory crate only detects 14.9gb

oh wait its hardware reserved

poop

[clever marten]

yes, because the igpu takes from ram

[gloomy tinsel]

What's the price of Charging port tho?
Because in the Service center they will cost me around 20$
meanwhile The part I look in the Online store was only 3$

for mi a1

[quartz atlas]

Dirt cheap

Companies have to turn a profit u know

Also there labor

[lucid sundial]

@tardy oak just delete that recovery partition

[tardy oak]

Eh, I got it figured out
helps keep things tidy when you have a separate drive, unless you're me

$ ls -1 ~/Download | wc -l
2886

Actually

Instead of putting everything into my Downloads folder
Just put everything on the D drive

🧠

[subtle hawk]

Fish

Razer

That company got like

1000% profit

HeY boYS sHoULd I doWnLoaD somE rAm???11

[hexed citrus]

it's not that cut and dry

say the port costs 3$

since they're a service center/repair shop they have to stock up on it

meaning they'll buy in bulk like 1000 of them

then there labor hours which have to be paid to the technicians that do the repair on your device

then there's rent of office space

tools, the store front, staff training

not to mention taxes

[somber cloud]

Possible to just use ramdisk instead@subtle hawk

[subtle hawk]

[azure pine]

hmm alright then

this problem has been plaguing me for 2 weeks

The partitioned D: drive of my laptop gets corrupted whenever I install something on it

e.g. Installing Steam on it, after restart, it says "Disk needs to format to be used"

despite countless chkdsk and countless formatting, it's still the same

I only know that things go downhill when I install something on it, putting images or whatnot is still fine

[hexed citrus]

how old is it

and what kind it is

[desert olive]

It's the same for my external drive, Windows keeps running chkdsk everytime I boot so I have to disconnect it. The drive is about 5 years old so it's likely due its time.

[azure pine]

my laptop is relatively new

it is just approaching it's 1st year

I think something's wrong with my HDD though, I hear some weird clicking sounds when I access the partitioned D: drive (By accessing I mean, I tried to install Steam on it again as a test. After installing Steam, I ran it and tried to listen to the HDD. It produces some weird clicking sounds. Then after I restarted my PC, yeah you guessed it right, Windows told me to format the disk to be usable again)

it's a Lenovo Legion Y530

the HDD is a Seagate Barracuda ST1000LM049-2GH172

C: drive is still fine, just that the partitioned D: drive is acting weird, I'd like to explore for possibilities on whether I can still fix this without the need to buy a new HDD since I can't afford one atm

[gloomy tinsel]

the clicky sound is normal on my new Asus M409
I mean some HDD make clicky sound when they spin but its only happen when You access something on those HDD

If it still in one HDD and partitioned, and your first drive is still fine. you can just fix it on the official store

Thats the best way

And you can wait till Yamato answer it too

But the clicky sound on my HDD you can't hear them if you're not in a quite room

[lucid sundial]

if both drives are from a single HDD then physical failure is out of the question

[azure pine]

hmm i see

how can i fix it on the official store?

also yes, it's one HDD

a 1 TB HDD, C: has 291 GB, D: has 638 GB

[lucid sundial]

Have you tried deleting the partition then creating a new one in disk manager? Just offering ideas

[azure pine]

I'll try that

[azure pine]

currently formatting

[subtle hawk]

hmm

clicking sounds is not really something that you want to hear coming out of an HDD

[azure pine]

👀

that

is what i read as well

[subtle hawk]

my HDD that has clicking sound died

[azure pine]

i can try recording the sound

[subtle hawk]

it's possible that something inside the drive fails, though I'm not saying it's the cause

[azure pine]

inside the drive?

[subtle hawk]

yes, such as the platter scratching the disk (forgot the name) that stores the data

if fixing it through software doesn't work, maybe you want to check the hardware's physical condition itself

[azure pine]

i havent tried softwares yet

what can you recommend

atm, i am just formatting it through disk management

[subtle hawk]

Hardrive is sensitive and can be extremely fragile

[cunning garnet]

try checking ur hdd using software like hddregen/mhdd

[azure pine]

aight

[subtle hawk]

yeah

that clicking sound is scary to hear, it's some sort of a red flag for people that knows tech

[azure pine]

mfw didn't have problems with my 10 year old HDD on my old laptop

prob cause it's not partitioned anyway

[cunning garnet]

when a hdd doesnt get enough power , it could make that clicking sound. but i only ever see dat happen on desktop pc

[azure pine]

then again, my tech knowledge isn't that updated

doesn't get enough power? i doubt mine doesn't get enough power

it's plugged in whenever it will get low battery

[cunning garnet]

thing like faulty power supply can cause that

[flint bobcat]

you need to back up your data and replace that failing hdd

[subtle hawk]

well, it's one possibilty. I don't think that's the case though

one way to find out is to try putting in another hdd

if you have any, that is

[azure pine]

yeah cannot afford a new one atm

idc about my data tbh, they're replacable

i don't put much important data after all

[subtle hawk]

basically step by step troubleshooting and trying to determine which is faulty and which is not

[hidden night]

idk Edifier is good or nah

[azure pine]

Update: So it is still the same. I even tried to reinstall windows and repartition it, partitiined D: drive still broken. Now I will be trying to just have one disk and no D: drive (also thanks for trying to help out, if this last method doesn't work, I will probably just cry in the corner and just give more space for C: drive. Though I will be glad if this problem can be resolved...)

[cunning garnet]

have u tried scanning for bad sector using HDDregen?
if you dont know where to get the software, try googling DLCboot/hirenboot, you need to install it on a flash drive & boot into it.

[gloomy tinsel]

Can you copy paste file fron your drive to nox tho? I didn't find the way to do it

its only the files

if it apk it can, but what am I searching is move the files that I have to nox such as gamefiles

[subtle hawk]

whats the diff between outemu switches and mx switches

[vagrant holly]

same colours will follow the same philosophy with very slight differences in tactile/audio feedback

outemu reds and mx reds will both be linear switches but they might feel a little different

outemu blues and mx blues will be clicky and have a somewhat stronger tactile bump for feedback but they will feel slightly different