technology

[teal shale]

i think mine gets to 70 tops

[bleak owl]

Gpu 70º

[teal shale]

but still its stock

oh and idk how to check gpu temp

[bleak owl]

Mine is liquid cooled

[teal shale]

but its the gigabyte with 3 fans so it should be good

[vast sand]

AIO?

[bleak owl]

Yup

[teal shale]

bruh

[vast sand]

Nice

[teal shale]

d i s g u s t i n g

[bleak owl]

I'm rich

[vast sand]

I'm getting the Corsair H100i

[bleak owl]

d i s g u s t i n g
@teal shale

I'm getting the Corsair H100i
@vast sand I have deepcool castle v2 antileak

[vast sand]

I could get a custom loop

But I'm building the PC myself

[bleak owl]

Mb u are interested

[teal shale]

all this talk and im just like

i just wanna play

[vast sand]

I don't want to cuck the PC up

[bleak owl]

In the antileak system

I wanna flex

[vast sand]

Nah I'm getting Corsair because my fans are corsair as well

[teal shale]

Btw i remember when someone said here that getting 1tb ssd was too much

[bleak owl]

I build this pc for flex

[vast sand]

So the lighting setup would be easier

[teal shale]

and my 512gb ssd is full lmao

[bleak owl]

If I just wanna play I would keep the old one

[vast sand]

I'll just have 1 app to controll all the lighing in my PC

[bleak owl]

and my 512gb ssd is full lmao
@teal shale stop download doujin

And porn

[teal shale]

nu

[bleak owl]

Exposed

[vast sand]

Lol

[bleak owl]

Loli doujin I guess

Or milf doujin

[buoyant egret]

Oh wait, here’s the best part 😉

[bleak owl]

Well I sleep it's 7 am

[teal shale]

i have Warzone, GTAV, Wildlands, Destiny and Halo installed in the ssd

[bleak owl]

Cya nerds

[teal shale]

and some other games in the 1tb hard drive that my old pc had

[bleak owl]

i have Warzone, GTAV, Wildlands, Destiny and Halo installed in the ssd
@teal shale ew installing game in the ssd

[teal shale]

thats what they are for arent they?

[bleak owl]

[teal shale]

wait then why did you tell me that

[bleak owl]

Yea

But never full the ssd

[teal shale]

y not the loading times are epic

[bleak owl]

Hm ok

Might get some problem with future windows updates

bcs there is no space

[teal shale]

i already have that

it was unavoidable anyways

[buoyant egret]

I’ll never sell my 4th gen iPod touch, no matter how much someone offers me

[teal shale]

i play a fuck ton of AAA games and those take a lot of space

yea dont do it

[buoyant egret]

It’s literally a relic from the past

Holy hell the old Instagram app works!

[teal shale]

just keep it somewhere safe and a charging cable close

and forget about it for 30 years then go back to it

[bleak owl]

I mean

[buoyant egret]

Sadly Azur Lane and Arknights does not run on it

[bleak owl]

Is the ssd bar became red?

[teal shale]

yes

[bleak owl]

Well move something

[teal shale]

i mean

it still has 42gb

it will be fine

[bleak owl]

who knows

[teal shale]

and all the games in the ssd are those that make good use of it

[bleak owl]

I have 300 gb on the ssd

[teal shale]

like Wildlands, and GTAV and Destiny 2

idk about Halo

maybe I should move halo

yea I should move halo

how do I move stuff

[bleak owl]

I never put games in the ssd

League one time

But immediately moved it in the hdd

[teal shale]

oh league

[bleak owl]

The ssd Is a holy place

[teal shale]

bruh that loading time can be so short if everyone in the game has an ssd

but if its not for games, then what is it for

[bleak owl]

dont care

I should change my silicon power ssd

[teal shale]

wait so how do I move stuff

[bleak owl]

Heard they are not good for os

[teal shale]

I have space on the HDD

and its halo it doesnt require the loading speeds

[bleak owl]

Halo has a launcher?

[teal shale]

yea

[bleak owl]

Well

Move the halo folder into hdd

Then open launcher

There will be a find the game

And the locate the halo folder in the hdd

Then u will be fine

[teal shale]

ok lemme try it

oh god hdd write times

[bleak owl]

I know u can do it on steam

[teal shale]

how is it on steam

[bleak owl]

The same as I told u

Even for uplay

[teal shale]

huh

ok then

[bleak owl]

I sleep

Cya

[teal shale]

gn i should sleep too anyways

got to work tomorrow as a cashier

rip

[quartz atlas]

what case is this?

[maiden plume]

From the logo thats an Inwin

Inwin 925 if im not mistaken

[quartz atlas]

fuck its $500

[maiden plume]

Hey its Inwin, also you'd be hard pressed to find any branded aluminium + tempered glass full tower under $300

[quartz atlas]

i wanna keep my budget for case+hardline within the $500 mark.

hecka pretty case but

the O11D will work

[maiden plume]

Cpu+ gpu? might want to go with fractal cases or nzxt. May have to give up some space and windows

I mean cpu and gpu blocks alone should cost $75-$120 each

[quartz atlas]

~$3k USD for entire build tbh

i'll be getting chinese watercooling parts

in a set

so ~$200 usd for everything

[maiden plume]

And here i thought you'd be going EK everything. At least you could save a few

[wary depot]

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[gloomy tinsel]

Too bad I get nova 5T

[valid acorn]

What has changed from the P30?

[bleak owl]

got to work tomorrow as a cashier
@teal shale I am in quarantine

[maiden plume]

Is that a fellow health care provider I see? Stay safe, wash your hands bois and grills

[vagrant holly]

chinese water cooling parts

fish living on the edge

[maiden plume]

Tbf thats where it all started. Aquarium D5's, Car radiators and fans, etc. As for the blocks themselves I forgot.

[quartz atlas]

lots of custom modders actually use them, EK is just overpriced. like all "big" brands.

[maiden plume]

True. However you get what you pay for.

[gloomy tinsel]

Like this one?

[maiden plume]

that mineral oil?

[gloomy tinsel]

Maybe

The bottom is oil

And the top is pure water

So fish lives

[maiden plume]

Well oil doesnt mix with water so it works. Just pray there are no earthquakes.

thats gona be heavy asf though.

[bleak owl]

is

vaseline

[quartz atlas]

in the case of EK no, you dont actually get what you pay for

you pay for the brand

barrow is just as good if not better than EK

[maiden plume]

unfortunately I'll have to use your thing before I can make any judgment calls. EK blocks have never failed me.

However are you buying local or shipping from China? Because free international shipping is

Also are there different types of metals involved? (e.g. would be aluminum+ copper= corrosion). Whats the cpu and gpu block look like?

[quartz atlas]

barrows have a much larger inventory than ek

which is why the custom modding community uses them a lot

much more choices to choose from

and no, why would anyone mix metals?

[maiden plume]

just checking on the metal part

[buoyant egret]

Hey guys

Remember that old 4th gen iPod touch I discovered yesterday when cleaning my house?

I discovered volume button got stuck when I found it

[maiden plume]

If its just stuck then fix it!

[buoyant egret]

But how?

[maiden plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9lR6U56vfo

It says screen repair but you should be able to get in there

[buoyant egret]

Well, would you still consider what I own a gem?

[maiden plume]

if it works 100% then sure

[buoyant egret]

Yea

Only volume button is stuck

[maiden plume]

its free too lol

[buoyant egret]

Free?

[maiden plume]

well you found it while cleaning so I thought it was someone elses= free 🙂

[buoyant egret]

No it was mine

I had it for years

I still remembered my password

[maiden plume]

welcome back then

[buoyant egret]

Didn't you see my posts yesterday?

[maiden plume]

it was so long I didnt want to back track. ~~Just promise you'll flex on them millenials who dont kknow what that is ~~

Then again its not even betamax

[buoyant egret]

I uploaded this yesterday incase you missed it 🙂

Sandy number one, 2010 style :

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516951507065765888/692614573345210418/video0.mov

And here is the best part 😉 :

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/516951507065765888/692616698368491561/video0.mov

It's like a time capsule

Unfortunately Azur Lane and Arknights does not run on it

[stone sequoia]

Can anyone help me with dynamic programming backtracking pls? D:

[buoyant egret]

Which is more expensive to animate, a triple A video game with really good graphics or a Pixar style film?

[subtle hawk]

the latter

[vagrant holly]

triple A videogames with very good graphics use all kinds of trickery to get real-like graphics while allowing it to be rendered real time

pixar films use complex lighting techniques (ray tracing) and shaders and often times much higher resolution textures aswell and they require pre-rendering, and depending on the scene, this can require weeks, or even months of a machine constantly running rendering frame after frame

a 1 second slice of animation, at 24 fps (the standard framerate for movies) could take from a few minutes to a few hours depending on how complex it is

[vagrant holly]

here's an example

that's a 3d model i made, it's not very complex and it doesn't even have any effects going on, it's just the model, a simple texture and some lighting, 1 frame, it still took me 7 seconds to render that one picture

think of all the stuff going on in animated movies times the amount of frames and that quickly adds up

[subtle hawk]

with ur toaster ye

[quartz atlas]

[subtle hawk]

inb4 rendered in eevee

[maiden plume]

Take starcraft 2 for example. That game has pre rendered CGI graphics and ones made using the game engine. A few mins of pre rendered cgi takes months to make. One using the game engine takes less.

^That would be your pixar movie

And this would be your game

Lighting, shading, texture quality would most likely be different. Even the amount of time taken to make a few of each would be different. Theres also the warcraft movie where Gul’dan looks like a juiced old man lol!

[vagrant holly]

nah it was rendered with cycles

i actually did render by mistake with eve once

then i had to render again and rendered with cpu instead of gpu and that took 26 seconds

[bleak owl]

Yostar servers are toasters

[wary depot]

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[buoyant egret]

If Sony really wanted to they could just have Sony Pictures Animation animate all their games

[lunar patrol]

ryzen mobile processors are killing intel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYqG31V4qtA

ryzen mobile may actually be enough to convince me to finally upgrade my laptop from a 2012 thinkpad

[subtle hawk]

imagine caring about high perf in a laptop

[buoyant egret]

[lunar patrol]

low idle power usage + high perf when needed? hell yeah i care

the fact that it matches XPS 13 in battery benchmark is insane

[maiden plume]

"Portable" workstations are nice. Brings back memories of lugging my M17x R4 (which is still kicking) to Uni

[quartz atlas]

or wait for intel 10th gen laptops, theres no comparison rn

[severe falcon]

i have one poggers

[quartz atlas]

u have a intel 10th gen laptop?

[severe falcon]

ye

[quartz atlas]

[severe falcon]

its my new 2in1

[maiden plume]

is it a h,k or just mq?

[quartz atlas]

I meant the newer refresh lineup thats not out yet

not the one that were released last year

[severe falcon]

i dont think this is the right one, but its what the shipping order lists
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-inspiron-15-5591-2-in-1-laptop/spd/inspiron-15-5591-2-in-1-laptop/cai1552n1w10pc2012

[maiden plume]

ah a U

good battery life then?

[severe falcon]

think so, havent used it much cuz it was supposed to be for when i left my desktop to go to job training

wait i found it

"lets list 4 different laptops as the same exact model number" -dell

[maiden plume]

So no discounts? Dell esp in the US should give you better quotes if you call or chat with someone. Even better if you're a student or something

[subtle hawk]

I won't trust AMD to make something energy efficient

[quartz atlas]

intel line ups are confusing me

[severe falcon]

oh no i got big discounts cuz it was through a special store

[maiden plume]

GJ

[quartz atlas]

how many 10th gen refreshes are they gonna fking have

[severe falcon]

i paid like $600 for it

[subtle hawk]

till they figure out 7nm @quartz atlas

[quartz atlas]

🥴

[subtle hawk]

they abandoned 10nm completely

[maiden plume]

tfw silicon has its limits

[subtle hawk]

silicon limits are at about 5nm

[maiden plume]

I thought they were having problems shrinking the die due to silicon limits?

[subtle hawk]

no

it's yield issues

[severe falcon]

i thought electron leakage was a problem

[subtle hawk]

yes it is

[severe falcon]

ah

[maiden plume]

Corrected then

[subtle hawk]

the smaller you go the bigger the leakage

[buoyant egret]

@quartz atlas Did you just drink a lot of coffee?

You are an owl!

[maiden plume]

Nightowls represent

[severe falcon]

clevebae is learning how to lurk like restart

restart is always watching

"Restart is typing..." is the scariest thing your mortal eyes will ever see

[subtle hawk]

re: laptops

coincidentally some of my friends have been upgrading their rigs lately but instead of building a pc they're all buying expensive laptops

which was at first but then i remembered we're all in uni

and i guess having the portability as an engineering major for CAD is always the priority... too bad we're all in quarantine though

[severe falcon]

do you really need portable CAD?

[teal shale]

Bruh did AMD claimed the high ground on laptops now?

Ayymd has desktop, servers and now laptops epicness while shintel is still trying to figure out 7nm lol

[subtle hawk]

I'll never understand uni ppl in particular getting beefy ass laptops that break ur back carrying just to browse documents and the web in class

and sprinkle some actual lab stuff that can also be done on the uni computers

[severe falcon]

exactly

[subtle hawk]

also while AMD can have the top end laptops

intel will still be the preferred choice for energy efficient laptops

[severe falcon]

i brought a raspberry pi nailed to a block of wood for all my school stuff

[subtle hawk]

this 5 yr old macbook pro still works just fine for most of my uni stuff and more while weighing as much as a power brick for those "gaming" laptops

that's what i'm saying

don't forget the 2 hr > battery life on gaming laptops

2 hours if ur lucky

[severe falcon]

2 hours on word

half a second on antyhign demanding

[subtle hawk]

with like 50% brightness

[maiden plume]

My rational for a gaming laptop for a Uni student would be. You can work on it and you can game on it. Doesn’t take much space especially when your in a dorm with friends. Portable enough to give you a work out too. I mean if you’re huffing after carrying a 9lbs notebook you really do need the exercise. but yeah power comes at a price and its not just battery life.

Then again should be enough power for a 1-2 hr lecture on power saver

[subtle hawk]

if you live in a dorm and you need to game you can always game stream from your pc at home

[maiden plume]

Not many people game stream, besides if you have no net its gg either way

[subtle hawk]

and you don't need to work out to carry it and if you carry it on only one shoulder then ur spine is fucked

[maiden plume]

Its just posture proper posture saves your back

[subtle hawk]

it helps but that does more damage

trust me I had to have my spine corrected

bcz I kept carrying my backpack on my left shoulder

[maiden plume]

Then again what bag survives one shouldering a 17” laptop?

[subtle hawk]

most do

[maiden plume]

Ah a satchel type? I have one of those everki backpacks

[subtle hawk]

a normal backpack

just not on both shoulders

[maiden plume]

Mileage will vary from person to person I guess? But yeah I did carry that notebook + stuff in the backpack thru 3 years of uni.

[subtle hawk]

like this

[maiden plume]

As for one shouldering I can do it if I have a hand tugging the strap. Otherwise its very awkward. Posture does help but only temporary as physics is a thing

[bleak owl]

Damn buoi

Amd is kicking intel's ass

[teal shale]

ngl

I would buy that laptop for college work and just because I have to be outdoors for work

it looks epic and its reasonably cheap

[weak lintel]

so this damn process makes my PC got hanged for secs

[buoyant egret]

[subtle hawk]

lemme guess @weak lintel u have a hard drive

[weak lintel]

yes, a budget PC one

gonna buy 2 TB SSD actually, but now cuz of lockdown shit. It cant be delivered If I buy it now and the price was stupidly rised

[subtle hawk]

called it

well

that service is doing you a favor

it's called superfetch and it basically caches all the most used programs and their files into your RAM

[weak lintel]

yeah, but sometimes when it doing the job. kinda annoying

[subtle hawk]

you'll have to put up with it

it's a essential part of windows that makes the experience smoother

[weak lintel]

[bleak owl]

Probably gonna buy a huge ssd too

[quartz atlas]

@buoyant egret no I didn't

[buoyant egret]

You were up really late

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk "essential part of windows" that freezes the entire computer when it tries to cache more than the available ram.
ive had to restart my work comp several times because of it

[subtle hawk]

does ur pc have like 4 gigs of RAM or smth?

[severe falcon]

8

like normally its fine, but when using chrome and a certain software, it gets low on ram and then that process kills it

[maiden plume]

Keyword would be "chrome"

[severe falcon]

chrome isnt the one that uses more ram than the computer has

[maiden plume]

true however for only 8gb of ram chrome uses up a lot then add in more tabs and poof!

I can see it now! Aida64 with 30 tabs of chrome open with 8gb of ram!

[severe falcon]

i opened chrome on my granpas computer and saw at least 40 tabs

i have no idea how it runs at all

[maiden plume]

Most things back then were made to last i guess? Now everything has a kill switch so you are forced to upgrade!

[subtle hawk]

@maiden plume oh shut the fuck up

that meme is old and not true

[maiden plume]

which one?

[subtle hawk]

the chrome eats ram one

firefox and safari eat a lot more in comparison

[severe falcon]

no my grandpas computer is 2 years old

its a slim one

[maiden plume]

das a young grandpa then Lemme guess its a dell?

[severe falcon]

no clue

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon heard of ATX12VO?

[severe falcon]

no

[tame topaz]

What can you imply from the name?

Yeah basically it's a new PSU standard proposed by Intel

That ditches everything except the 12 volt rail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur2eSL344Xs

[severe falcon]

wait

[subtle hawk]

old news

[severe falcon]

doesnt that mean that the mobos now have to have power converters on them?

or wait no

you can just drop voltage

[subtle hawk]

yes DC to DC converters have to be placed on the mobo now

for the 12VO spec

also the spec is now what

half a year old?

[tame topaz]

One year old

First announced in March 2019

[gloomy tinsel]

What you guys think about the Ryzen 4000 series

That mobile processor btw

[bleak owl]

@gloomy tinsel https://youtu.be/ZYqG31V4qtA dis

[gloomy tinsel]

Dayum

That's powerful

But the GPU is slightly worse than desktop RTX 2060

At 1450$ that's a good deal tho

[teal shale]

stoop he's already deaaaaad

[bleak owl]

what are u expecting @gloomy tinsel

its laptop

ofc its slighlty worse than the standard 2060

[quartz atlas]

but does it have ray tracing?

also rtx super laptops next month, rtx standard isnt a now thing anymore

[buoyant egret]

[stone wave]

Can I get an 🇫 for my mobo, seems to have died now of all times.

I was able to jump the PSU but not the mobo so I'm fairly certain it's the mobo.

Too cheap to replace the whole thing, but don't really want to buy used cause of the whole shelter in place thing kinda killing the second hand market.

[weak lintel]

Guys, did ya know why my PC cant be shut down for normal (like its taking time too long to be off)? This happened before upgraded my PC as the PSU still built-in from PC Case

Just wanna know this old problem tho. Now I don't have that problem since already upgrade my PC including the PSU.

[severe falcon]

mine sometimes takes forever to shutdown

i usually just let it do its thing tho

[weak lintel]

And even when that happened, sometimes it stuck. Not even shutting down after leaving it for an hour lmao

[severe falcon]

oof

[valid acorn]

It's trying to kill all the background apps

[severe falcon]

wait did win10 get rid of the "waiting on..." screen?

[weak lintel]

nope

the screen already off

just stuck on my PC

[severe falcon]

wait so its past the blinding blue shutting down screen?

and the pc is just running?

[weak lintel]

yes

sometimes that happened before upgrade

[severe falcon]

i always call that a lost cause and hold the power button

[weak lintel]

kinda annoying when this happened before lmao

when I finished my assignment, so I turn it off. Next in the morning, my monitor is off but the PC not haha

[gloomy tinsel]

Rip electricity

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave wait why are you shipping to an amazon locker instead of to home? having to go outside?

[stone wave]

Cause delivery times are weird now and it's due to rain where I'm at

[buoyant egret]

Hey guys

I found my iPod Mini I have from 2004 when cleaning my house!

Two gems found two weeks in a row!

[wary depot]

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[violet nexus]

there is a rumor that new CCNA exam doesnt have Lab anymore 👀

[buoyant egret]

What's that?

[subtle hawk]

wait what @violet nexus

why would they ever consider ditching like half of the fundamental foundation for those exams

[valid acorn]

[valid acorn]

Idk what just happened. Upgraded to android 10, SD card not detected (although its has been inserted since android pie)

[violet nexus]

@subtle hawk im still confirming things haha

But i think it shouldnt be remove

[subtle hawk]

network associates never had lab assigments

only written exams

[violet nexus]

i mean uhh the lab simulation part in written exams

from what ive heard

its only pure multiple choice

[subtle hawk]

Sooo, Windows 10 is going to revamp most of the system icons in the future versions that reflects Fluent design language.

[bleak owl]

Ok

Wait isn't that the bullied loli

[buoyant egret]

Who?

[severe falcon]

you mean the blonde one that breaks that other loli's arm for making fun of her?

[valid acorn]

Can anyone give me a good budget webcam (aside from using the phone)

[wary depot]

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[quartz atlas]

good webcam
budget
Choose one

[valid acorn]

Ahhhh, can't choose both... whyyyy

Maybe a good webcam would be nice

[gloomy tinsel]

So I just updated my phone OS to Android 10

But it's my network so laggy

Wtf

[valid acorn]

Guess the Insider reconfigure my BIOS

[subtle hawk]

more like you shouldn't use insiders if you don't know what it entails

[valid acorn]

[gloomy tinsel]

So I bought something online

And the box

Got disinfectant

And it's smells bad

[severe falcon]

i ordered something from amazon and it came 2 days early

[vagrant holly]

box got disinfectant and smells bad or you ded

choose

[severe falcon]

i got a fan mat for my laptop, so now it wont melt

tho the battery life is GONE

[vagrant holly]

why did you buy a usb powered one

[severe falcon]

cuz laptop

[vagrant holly]

get one with it's own plug

[severe falcon]

yeah thats the thing, if im near a plug, i can just plug it in

like the laptop

but when im not near a plug, ill have a useless fan mat

[stone wave]

lol so i replaced my dead Z170 mobo with a new Z270 one and my existing Windows install works fine

didnt really expect that

[subtle hawk]

how was reorganizing your cable management

[stone wave]

let me put it to you this way

my back panel which is hinged and magnetic

is being held shut with a piece of packing tape

ill fix it later

[subtle hawk]

windows installs are quite sturdy

as long as you don't mess with them

[stone wave]

lul i just noticed this

weird cause the key was linked to my account
had to re-enter it for whatever reason lol

[violet nexus]

i just found out my new laptop's ssd

if im not mistaken this one

[valid acorn]

Since when intel make SSD?

[subtle hawk]

very long ago

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave You can use a Windows 7 product key to activate Windows 10, depending on the edition.

[stone wave]

i just reentered the key that it was previously using

[flint bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LArkm4v5mWA

kekw

[wary depot]

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[fossil notch]

The hell is even that

[subtle hawk]

muh dualshock

[fossil notch]

I'm sticking to the thirds controller

[native harness]

Anybody care to help a young lad in pursuing his first time PC building endeavors?

[severe falcon]

@native harness whats the budget

[vagrant holly]

i legit despise the way the new dual shock looks

it looks like one of those ripoff controllers

[severe falcon]

cuz it is

its an xbox controller with playstation layout

[vagrant holly]

original design is still the best

*PS2-3

it looked solid

bulky in the right places

[native harness]

I don’t really have a budget I just need a pc that will do what I need without the price going over board. I do a lot of multitasking (music, discord, chrome, programming, bluestacks) and my laptop can’t really keep up atm. I made a least of parts but I don’t know about the gpu, I think it’s too much for what I need. I don’t normally game I just want a smooth pc. I don’t know how gpu relates to refresh rates and screen resolution but I want it high not when gaming just with display/video. I’m a complete noob to PC so guide me

[severe falcon]

what monitor do you use

[vagrant holly]

monitor and budget

monitor as in resolution

[severe falcon]

like are you tring to get 60hz at HD or like 144hz at 4k

cuz if it aint for gaming, it doesnt really need power

[vagrant holly]

actually just post the list so we can have a baseline of what you had in mind, we can tweak from there

[native harness]

1440p 144hz

Give me a sec

[severe falcon]

also what kind of programming, cuz depending on that, you might need more RAM

like if its image processing OH BOI

[native harness]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Cx2VZf

Gpu is may be a bit overkill

Going for a bit of white and black aesthetic

Basic code programming for python and C (PyCharm, IntelliJ)

[severe falcon]

bruh

"i dont want it for gaming"

$1300

when you say video, do you mean like video editing or just watching youtube

[native harness]

YT

I’m just tryna make it last

[vagrant holly]

last i heard of the RX series is that AMD is having a bit of a clusterfuck with their drivers, i haven't heard much on the matter since

their CPUs are fine

[subtle hawk]

the AMD cards are notorious for garbage tier drivers

[vagrant holly]

but they had issues with the drivers for their GPUs last i heard of them

[severe falcon]

AMD has never had good drivers

[vagrant holly]

ye they had issues with their CPUs at first

but they are slowly ironing it out

[severe falcon]

CPUs are fine

[subtle hawk]

also that RAM is gaudy

[vagrant holly]

IKR LMAO

"i don't game much" looking ass

RGB RAM

[severe falcon]

the last time a radeon card had good drivers, it was made by this company called ATi

[subtle hawk]

instead of cheap skating on peripherals

why not get something better while cutting corners in other places

[vagrant holly]

if you don't game much, i reccomend the logitech mx series

wait

was it called mx?

ye it's mx

[subtle hawk]

ATi is the old RTG

before they got bought by AMD

also for what u have I don't see a reason to get a 3600

unless ur gonna use a X570 board and actually take advantage of PCIe 4.0

[native harness]

I see

Sorry I’m new to this

[subtle hawk]

ryzen 3rd gen is only good if u take advantage of the benefits it has

else there's no point is dropping 50$ more

[native harness]

What are the benefits?

[severe falcon]

but if he wants to use pcie 4.0, then he has to use AMD graphics right?

[subtle hawk]

not rlly

GPUs don't benefit from it

only NVMe storage

[severe falcon]

ah

i see now

[subtle hawk]

we have yet to saturate a 16x 3.0 link

let alone a 4.0 one

while NVMe can saturate a 3.0 4x one

[severe falcon]

also arent those fans a bit pricey?

[subtle hawk]

yeah they are

if u want bling bling fans then get corsair ones

if u want actual good fans get noctua ones

[severe falcon]

or if you wanna cheap out but still have the bling, go rosewill

[subtle hawk]

disgusting

[severe falcon]

listen yama, i have yet to need a replacement rosewill fan

and i bought them 7 years ago

[vagrant holly]

get noctua nf series

cheap, no rgb 100% all about getting the job done

[subtle hawk]

I still have OEM fans from back in the single core athlon days

[vagrant holly]

and 6 years warranty

[subtle hawk]

so what is your point

[severe falcon]

but youve been using them on you main PC everyday since then?

[subtle hawk]

for servers

so it's even worse

since they go full bore 24/7

they sound like aids doe

[severe falcon]

huh thats actually less time than i thought

4 hours per day for 7 years is only 10k hours

[vagrant holly]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G9y4wh

switched a few things

[subtle hawk]

looks a lot better

[native harness]

Thank you

[subtle hawk]

with that extra budget you can even drop in some decent peripherals

[severe falcon]

yeee

[subtle hawk]

or upgrade to a NVMe SSD

[vagrant holly]

also do you really need speakers?

[subtle hawk]

doe the latter is not rlly needed

[native harness]

Guess I went a bit overboard with the white

Hehe

Uhhhh

[vagrant holly]

there is an unspoken white parts tax

[native harness]

Not right now I guess

[severe falcon]

i wish you could tell pcpartpicker what the price is without having to make a custom part

[subtle hawk]

u can

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/31dk2.png

[severe falcon]

OH

[vagrant holly]

not sure if it has something to do with panic buying but shit seems to be more expensive than it should be rn

[subtle hawk]

stocks are low

and logistics are down

obv prices will go up

[vagrant holly]

ye

[severe falcon]

apparently the fans i want are completely out of stock globally

[vagrant holly]

[severe falcon]

thats the problem with companies not directly selling parts

the buy now button takes me to an out of stock newegg page

[subtle hawk]

I only buy OEM fans

or corsair ones

the latter for obv reasons

[severe falcon]

i think this whole set was like $30

and the individual fans were selling for $20 everywhere else

[subtle hawk]

looks shit tbh

[severe falcon]

well thats what happens when you want rgb sync ring lit fans for every fan slot on your computer, but dont want to spend more than your graphics card

[subtle hawk]

well that's called being a cheapskate

you either pay the RGB tax

or you don't

[severe falcon]

i mean corsair doesnt even sell that style

[subtle hawk]

the HD fans

[severe falcon]

and those will work with the rgb software on the mobo?

[subtle hawk]

iCUE

but iCUE can control aura, RGB fusion, etc

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/0gqnj.png

[severe falcon]

ah

oh yeah i already need that anyway for headphones

but its not really that customizable

also i cant find the fans in that style

where its ring lit, but the fan blades are black

why do only the smaller fan companies make that style

yamato if you can find good ones in that style, show me, cuz im at $1600 and i have room to spare

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon sup

[severe falcon]

the rosewill fans no longer exist

so i need to find a replacement

and yama has claimed i need quality

[tame topaz]

iirc Lian Li has some

[severe falcon]

i need to find ring lit fans, but the blades are black

[tame topaz]

ooh

[severe falcon]

and it seems like that is the one thing corsair does not make

[tame topaz]

http://www.lian-li.com/bora-digital/

[severe falcon]

like they have this, but the blades are clear

[tame topaz]

Oh, you want black blades? Tough

[severe falcon]

yeah thats the problem

[tame topaz]

NZXT Aer?

[severe falcon]

cuz its AESTHETIC

[tame topaz]

It's definitely quite pricey tho

https://www.nzxt.com/products/aer-rgb

Being NZXT and all that

[subtle hawk]

that is just fans with a white ring

[severe falcon]

yes, but i want that with rgb

[subtle hawk]

you can UV paint normal ones like that and you have the same effect

[tame topaz]

Yeah I showed you an example

NZXT Aer

But it ain't cheap

Fun fact:

I'm running an EK Vardar as my intake

[subtle hawk]

vardars are overpriced

[tame topaz]

I bought two on clearance

For a blistering $4.20 each

I knew there's no way in living hell I could pass that up

So I sold one for a profit and use the other one for myself

Thermals got a decent boost ever since

Remember

$4.20

jesus

[severe falcon]

how expensive are those aers

[tame topaz]

Very

Well not really

28 bucks for a 2-pack

[severe falcon]

OH

wait

thats cheap

everything else is $60 for a 3-pack

but does it change with software

like can i make it do cool patterns

[tame topaz]

Fairly certain it's software controlled, yes

Wait hold on

Why does the website say 80 bucks for a 3-pack

[severe falcon]

bruh

newegg says $42 for a single fan

[tame topaz]

Oh that's a single fan

(also the thing runs through their own Hue system and seemingly cannot be mobo-controlled)

[severe falcon]

i need 6 of them

[tame topaz]

Come to Vietnam we have some for 28 bucks

3-pack

Can either be controlled via hub or mobo

You're a picky one

Black blade RGB fans are hard to come by

[severe falcon]

its cuz they look good

cuz its just the ring, not the blurry fan

i would love to buy corsair, but they dont make them

[tame topaz]

Want something slightly bizarre? https://www.amazon.com/Enermax-Addressable-Motherboard-Control-UCSQARGB12P-BP3/dp/B07PJVTPXN

Might be too bizarre

[severe falcon]

well heres the thing

[tame topaz]

You want black blades, you gotta shell more money

Bruh

@severe falcon you want something truly unique?

https://www.newegg.com/deepcool-mf120s-case-fan/p/N82E16835856123?Item=N82E16835856123&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FTz3H99%2Fdeepcool-mf120s3-in-1-371-cfm-120-mm-fans-mf120s&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-INvGSoX1teXQWIDCS.DaLQ

[severe falcon]

no those are bad

the enermax is fine, but the problem is that i dont think the mobo can control fans on the hub

and i would have to use a hub

[tame topaz]

Which mobo then

[severe falcon]

https://www.newegg.com/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus/p/N82E16813119197?Item=N82E16813119197&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FdmGnTW%2Fasus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-TEuawxfCbpIr3qkETPUFhA

[tame topaz]

Fairly certain it has an ARGB plug

[severe falcon]

look at the enermax fans again

it says either mobo or hub with presets

[tame topaz]

Synced through the hub, most likely

A lot of fans do that

As in you plug the RGB cable into the hub and the mobo

[severe falcon]

oh so the hub can either do presets OR mobo?

[tame topaz]

Yes

lemme check real quick

[severe falcon]

cuz if it does that, ill just use the enermax

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon

You're in luck

Though this approach also means that any kind of fancy sequential effect may not work

As in fans glow up in a certain order or something to that effect

[severe falcon]

so all the fans on the hub will do the same thing

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon no they don't look good

[tame topaz]

Seems like it

[subtle hawk]

having a RGB fan core and edge is besto

a.k.a the LL120/LL140

[tame topaz]

He values black blades more than anything

Besides the RGB itself

[subtle hawk]

it's either or

not both

[severe falcon]

i like the ring light effect

[tame topaz]

From behind the RGB shows up thru holes

[severe falcon]

like id be fine if corsair had both the inner and outer rings as RGB, but then the blades were black

[tame topaz]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/316Ib6K-CtL._A.jpg

[subtle hawk]

ur picky as shit

[severe falcon]

yama im already spending $1579 on a PC

yes im gonna be picky

[tame topaz]

The setup we chose?

[severe falcon]

ye

its 1579 without the fans

[tame topaz]

And ooh, you're gonna buy it soon?

[severe falcon]

not soon

[subtle hawk]

u want budget while also being picky as hell

[severe falcon]

yama they aint even budget

those enermax are the same price as the corsairs

[tame topaz]

ngl I want those Deepcool fans tho

[subtle hawk]

ain't budget is my pc that I still am slightly regretful spending that much

[severe falcon]

ill be back in like 20 min

[tame topaz]

[severe falcon]

back

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon need anything else?

[severe falcon]

i dont think so

total price is now $1688

[tame topaz]

With peripherals?

[severe falcon]

yeah for everything

[tame topaz]

Alrighty then

Still planning for now?

[severe falcon]

yeah

and corona has pushed it back further

[tame topaz]

oof

[severe falcon]

since my job training has been postponed until its over

[tame topaz]

well f

[severe falcon]

and then i gotta deal with student loans, apartment, and car once i do get the training

[tame topaz]

ouch

[severe falcon]

luckily i have very little student loans to pay back, at least compared to average

[severe falcon]

@tame topaz

i have a friend who is looking to make a new build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hVfvvW

hes already got case and gpu

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon any requirements?

[severe falcon]

nah hes new to building and hes just looking for feedback

i told him about the bios update for the b450s so he might get an x570

[tame topaz]

SSD is good, Tomahawk is prolly best B450

PSU, might as well go Corsair

CX is good

[severe falcon]

corsair more expensive tho

[tame topaz]

But might as well be leagues better

well not leagues

but still better

Let's keep choosing first

[severe falcon]

is the ram fine?

[tame topaz]

RAM seems fine

Maybe just a little bit more to 3200?

[severe falcon]

nah, hes not wanting it perfect

hes throwing a 970 in it

[tame topaz]

Memory's getting pricey so he better do it quick

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cYzfRk

Have at ya

20 more buckaroos and he can get himself a 500 gig

https://www.newegg.com/western-digital-blue-sn550-nvme-500gb/p/N82E16820250134?Item=N82E16820250134

75 bucks for 500 gig, NVMe

Though the difference might be miniscule to the average layman

@severe falcon https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails?ItemList=Combo.3958899&Description=ryzen 5 Bundle&quicklink=true

A combo

If your buddy wants to go X570 for realsies

[severe falcon]

wefound an x570 for $10 more than the b450

also hes putting a 1TB HDD in for games, so he doesnt really need more ssd space

[tame topaz]

Oh, lemme see

[severe falcon]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lj9rPn

[tame topaz]

Nice.

ALC1200! Talk about premium.

Yeah, tell him to get that.

@severe falcon problem: sale ends in 12 hours

[severe falcon]

ye hes buying the mobo now

hes getting it part by part

[tame topaz]

I see

[bleak owl]

ryzen 5 3600 with x570 what u smoking @severe falcon

[severe falcon]

what do you mean

[bleak owl]

its overkill

u can buy a b450

[severe falcon]

yeah but that x570 is $10 more than the b450

10 bucks

plus theres room for upgrade later

[bleak owl]

huh

the fuk is usa price...

[severe falcon]

it was on sale

[bleak owl]

then its fine

[teal shale]

hides bc I have 5 3600 with x570

[bleak owl]

welp

is not that the problem

u could buy a b450 and save money

and have the same performance

[lunar patrol]

small brain: whatever pc case you currently have
big brain: repurposing a literal car wheel as your pc case

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNiI9_CGTw

[severe falcon]

actual bomb from ww2 as a case

[vagrant holly]

i love these shady cases

it doesn't have to be a metal box

give me a car wheel

V8 engine case when

https://gadgetsin.com/v8-engine-computer-case-mod.htm

nvm, good

[lunar patrol]

only $600 + $130 shipping to the US for the wheel case https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000267112097.html

[subtle hawk]

what stops you from modding it urself

[lunar patrol]

lack of access to machining tools to cut/create mounting points for all the parts

[severe falcon]

yeah you can probably find some rims at a scrap yard

[subtle hawk]

you just need to cut space in the wheel

the sheet metal can be drilled and tapped

and install standoffs

[severe falcon]

yeah, tbh it sounds like a cool project

i like the engine idea better tho

if only you could use the actual radiator for cooling

[lunar patrol]

imagine you're playing a game and your pc rolls off your desk

[vagrant holly]

you can tho

water coolers use actual radiators

[severe falcon]

no i meant the car radiator

[subtle hawk]

you can just grind off the edges

and it won't roll

[vagrant holly]

it doesn't look much different from a car radiator

[severe falcon]

aside from being tiny

i said engine case

[subtle hawk]

also

[lunar patrol]

that shit is probably dirty as fuck

[subtle hawk]

car radiator is aluminium

[lunar patrol]

rip all waterblocks if you try to use engine radiator

[severe falcon]

wait its aluminum?

[vagrant holly]

to save weight yes

[severe falcon]

good luck finding one then

[lunar patrol]

galvanic corrosion is a concern but many AIOs use copper plate + aluminum radiators so if you know what you're doing it should be fine

[subtle hawk]

they're all aluminium

[lunar patrol]

still does not seem like a very good idea though

[subtle hawk]

a car has no luxury to afford a copper heatsink

[severe falcon]

its a steel heatsink tho

the engine just sits in water

[subtle hawk]

coolant

not water

[severe falcon]

yeah

but its still 50% water

then again antifreeze is an anti-corrosion agent, so wouldnt that help with the copper?

[subtle hawk]

no

why should it use a copper heatsink

[severe falcon]

i meant for using it as the PC radiator

[subtle hawk]

it could work

but it will still corrode

[severe falcon]

we must find a coolant that has a lower boiling point than water

so we can make a steam turbine

[subtle hawk]

there is

plenty

[severe falcon]

make a PC that functions like a reactor

[subtle hawk]

so what u wanna power the pc with the pc?

[severe falcon]

well no, but that would return energy back to the system so it would technically be more energy efficient

[subtle hawk]

not really

physics will tell you go fuck yourself

no energy for you bitch

[severe falcon]

well yeah you cant create energy

but the CPU puts out alot of heat no matter what

[subtle hawk]

at most u can use that turbine to spin ur desk fan

[severe falcon]

you would just be turning a portion of it into energy

[violet nexus]

tfw asr doesnt support ssh so u forced to upgrade ios

[subtle hawk]

why

the fuck

would u use ssh for ios

[weak lintel]

Never knew my 570 use Samsung as memory type

[weak lintel]

hmm should I raise a bit until 2100 or enough

RX 570 4GB PG

[stone wave]

my dude, theres a dedicated screenshot button in that program lol

[weak lintel]

nah, only specific for this one lol

[subtle hawk]

I’ve used an RX 570 before

best mid range enthusiast GPU with price-to-performance

I mean this was from the time when GTX 1060 6 gbs were way too expensive for what they were tbf

[lunar patrol]

the RX580 is still one of the best price-to-performance cards of the lower-end GPUs which just goes to show how greedy nvidia got with turing pricing

[bleak owl]

@weak lintel which custom?

[subtle hawk]

imagine using a AMD card

[severe falcon]

[stone wave]

i myself only use the finest offerings from 3dfx

https://tenor.com/view/3dfx-voodoo-logo-intro-gif-16257456

[buoyant egret]

@subtle hawk Graphics card or processor?

[subtle hawk]

what can be a card

[lunar patrol]

CPU: card processing unit

[subtle hawk]

[buoyant egret]

Wanna hear a joke?

Intel GPUs

[subtle hawk]

I mean they're made by ppl that worked on AMD cards

what did u expect

[bleak owl]

Why so much hate against amd

[subtle hawk]

AMD cards are garbage

[lunar patrol]

amd GPUs deserve the hate after they took 2 years to catch up to nvidia's current gen (5700xt vs 2070)

just in time for next gen nvidia to come out

[buoyant egret]

@subtle hawk GPU or CPU?

[bleak owl]

AMD cards are garbage
@subtle hawk

[lunar patrol]

also the whole fiasco with vega FE and radeon VII

amd does not have a good (recent) GPU track record

[subtle hawk]

VII was such a meme

[bleak owl]

amd GPUs deserve the hate after they took 2 years to catch up to nvidia's current gen (5700xt vs 2070)
@lunar patrol

U know the rx570 beat the fuk up versus the 1050 1050ti 1060 3gb

[subtle hawk]

[lunar patrol]

AMD's most recent card line is still not caught up to nvidia's gen that came out 2 years ago

[subtle hawk]

so u beat the bottom of the barrel

gj

[buoyant egret]

AMD GPUs are trash?

[subtle hawk]

they are

were

and possibly will be

[lunar patrol]

the rx 500 series was also an overclocked rehash of the rx 400 series

[bleak owl]

Fanboyism

[buoyant egret]

Um, AMD has better color than Nvidia

[subtle hawk]

[bleak owl]

Cringe saying that amd gpu is shit without any context

[subtle hawk]

like color matters

[bleak owl]

[lunar patrol]

AMD has not had a top-tier offering compete even close with nvidia's top-tier offering in years

[subtle hawk]

it has garbage tier drivers that underperform most of the time, it has terrible efficiency and high power draw

the list goes on

[bleak owl]

Same goes to nvidia

[lunar patrol]

did everybody just forget how hyped vega/radeon VII was and how badly they performed??

[subtle hawk]

yes they did

[lunar patrol]

why is there any precedent to expect big navi to be good

[subtle hawk]

fanboyism is too stronk

[bleak owl]

Nvidia driver get worse everytime

[subtle hawk]

got any evidence for that?

[lunar patrol]

i want them to be good bc competition is great like AMD CPU vs intel CPU but i'll believe it when i see it

[bleak owl]

Pascal gpu after Nvidia released Turing

[subtle hawk]

RTG has always been bleeding off of AMD main

and now that most of the staff have left for intel

they're not doing hot at all

[lunar patrol]

RX 5000 series is actually a decent lineup for once competitive with 2060/2070 but it's way too late considering nvidia is releasing ampere later this year

also 5600xt launch shenanigans real meme

[subtle hawk]

it's a decent competitor but the XTs are literally space heaters

[lunar patrol]

the only evidence you really need is nvidia's insane price hike on turing

if AMD were actually competitive then nvidia wouldn't have gotten away with that

[bleak owl]

it's a decent competitor but the XTs are literally space heaters
@subtle hawk depends on which custom

And If it doesn't heat its a not gpu

[subtle hawk]

not to mention that the vega instinct cards are a meme and a half

not even close to tesla cards

[bleak owl]

Well u wanna know how bad is the 1050

[subtle hawk]

a 1050 doesn't go into a server chassis

it goes in some pleb tier pc

[bleak owl]

1050 in 2020

U can buy a rx570 for the same price or even less

And get the double performance

[subtle hawk]

"double"

[bleak owl]

https://youtu.be/FpLSrCHQ-qg

[subtle hawk]

now how reliable the card is long time

[bleak owl]

This bench has been made in December 2019

[subtle hawk]

doesn't give me context on reliablility

[bleak owl]

ok folk

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[vagrant holly]

my 950 ti was still kicking when i was using it last december, upgraded just because i could and got into 3d modelling

nvidia provides drivers for an obscene amount of time

[weak lintel]

@subtle hawk RX570 released 2017

try askin in OC group or gaming group. then let me know what the answer from 1050Ti vs RX 570

for 3D Nvidia issa legit tbh

[subtle hawk]

u know "gaming" is only a small fraction of the graphics marketshare

[weak lintel]

different topic if u askin about workstation

[subtle hawk]

it's the same topic

[weak lintel]

naah

[subtle hawk]

a GPU doesn't magically become better or worse

it is what it is

no workload or usecase will change that

[weak lintel]

just like what @bleak owl said, many ppl wil answer 570 > 1050ti

but 570 < 1060

[subtle hawk]

those many people usually throw out their 570 very soon afterwards due to shit drivers

[weak lintel]

well, tbh 570 commonly used for OC things

2020 OC 570 is still up

[subtle hawk]

if ur OCing u have money for smth better

[weak lintel]

theres competition for best stable 3D stress OC 570 this 2020 lol

[subtle hawk]

and that's professional overcloking

where FX chips still are common

doesn't mean that suddenly it's a good card

[weak lintel]

thats what I said, RX 500x kinda common for OC tester

"popular OC tester"

[subtle hawk]

doesn't change the point that it's not something that most buyers will like to have

[weak lintel]

but for gaming basics, 1050Ti still winning on marketshares

[subtle hawk]

so far 100% of people that I know that bought one have changed it for something from the green team

due to poor performance from drivers

[weak lintel]

for buyers of RX, mostly will jump to RX 5700