Still better than Italy
#technology
bleak owl
vagrant holly
rome does have gigabit but my connection isn't much better than yours tbh
bleak owl
gloomy tinsel
Weeb country where everyone watches Streaming 
vagrant holly
stone wave
I got this fucking thing sitting around that I bought.
But can't use cause I'm not using cable internet anymore.
I ought to resell it cause it wasn't particularly cheap.
This is over my $25 wifi range extender...
My shit is rated for 300mbps
gloomy tinsel
wait what's you wifi monthly rate? for me its 6000¥
vagrant holly
imagine ISPs delivering on their promises 
stone wave
Comcast, as shitty as they were did for me.
It never capped out the gigabit on speed tests
but when I was downloading it'd hit 30 MB/s +
when the source i was downloading from let it go that high
The advertised speed and your real world speed is dependent on a few things.
Where you are relative to the nearest node.
How much bandwidth is being use in your local area through that particular form of internet.
And how fast the source you're downloading from allows.
For internet connections that aren't fiber based the quality of the wiring can affect the speed too.
I was on VDSL years back but the wiring was literally rusting and that fucked my speeds until I had the wiring redone.
gloomy tinsel
on me the installation was done by the provider
stone wave
I had to have the wiring from my apartment to the junction box redone.
gloomy tinsel
Oh yea I know the box
stone wave
But yeah, after I switched to cable I went with gigabit... but I had a 1 TB monthly data cap which was funny.
Cause it was like having a 800 HP supercar but only racing from stop sign to stop sign.
gloomy tinsel
I don't think there is a cap but one day that is months ago on 2019
it drops to only 200mb/s
when I try to speed test it
stone wave
I don't think most places have a cap outside of the US and more rural countries.
gloomy tinsel
the cap is the FUP?
gloomy tinsel
valid acorn
Meanwhile with the 5GHz 300mbps
stone wave
I'll be damned if I can't even use the internet I pay for at it's full speed cause of some cheap-o $25 WiFi range extender.
subtle hawk
noooooooooooooo why did you get a range extender
stone wave
cause my router is in another room
and i don't want to run an ethernet cable across the fucking house
and IDK how one of those powerline things will work at my place
cause i share utilities with 2 other families
It ought to be powerful enough to handle more than 500 mbps since it only needs to go about 25 ft through 1 wall
Folks seem to be getting 5-15ms ping in speed tests so it should work for gaming.
My current thing only works @ 2.4 ghz and can't even max out my internet.
maiden plume
I remember back in the day I used our old laptop as a repeater to enhance the wifi signal lol 
stone wave
I just need the shit to be low latency and go at 300 mbps
the crap i got that needs to be wired is all at my desk connected to a switch anyways
gloomy tinsel
What's the difference between Windows 10 pro and home version?
wary depot
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vagrant holly
no wait
gloomy tinsel
What I know the pro can run game in higher fps
vagrant holly
pro has more features yes, but the normal user doesn't need them
no, that's not true
vagrant holly
it used to be, windows had many versions
like windows 7 had home, ultimate and pro
ultimate gave you more performance
but now, there is only 2 versions
home and pro
windows 10 home is all you need
windows 10 pro simply has extra features for businesses, like advanced file encryption and networking capabilities
all features you most likely won't ever use
it doesn't give you more framerate, there is no difference between pro and home when it comes to gaming
stark heart
teal shale
The store that build my pc installed Windows 10 pro but the trial version
But then someone send me an easy way to activate it for free and it was epic
Btw now that I’ve been using Windows 10 for about 2 weeks now
I really miss Windows 7 on my old PC
vagrant holly
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
bleak owl
wary depot
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bleak owl
Bcs yeston
vagrant holly
i have an NR600 myself, it's not that expensive but still has good airflow, simple metal box design, could be boring
bleak owl
ok
vagrant holly
meshify c looks nice
quartz atlas
My ideal case would be a tinted glass box with metal trims
maiden plume
sounds inwin or lian li
quartz atlas
But that doesn't exist and expensive as heck to custom
Ye those 2 brands are close enough
vagrant holly
ye those requirements sound expensive from reputable brands
vagrant holly
cleve is an 8 feet tall afro-american hunk of testosterone called Jerome
vagrant holly
ye, their little polygon motif they got going on on the mesh is neat too
looks more expensive than it is
bleak owl
the meshify c is like a open case
maiden plume
theres also caselabs 
vagrant holly
they are still alive? 
bleak owl
the only problem is a bit tiny as case
maiden plume
hence the laugh. Sad to see them go
quartz atlas
I actually love the o11 d/xl design
But the glass isn't tinted
Actually maybe I can apply my own tint 
maiden plume
just buy some 3M tint or a more ghetto solution would be to spray it with Tamiya smoke LOL. Jokes aside its PC-O8WX for me. Or the 09 if you want eatx
teal shale
The case I got its pretty epic
The be quiet silent base 601
bought it because it was pretty cheap and it had tempered glass
And now that I used it holy shit
its so silent and opening the back and front panels is super ez
Seriously while im playing metro at max its super silent
severe falcon
im not a fan of the silent stuff
i like my comp to sound like a jet engine cuz then i know the fans are running
teal shale
Sometimes I forget to speed up the case fans when im playing
And when I realize I just hate myself
This case has a switch with 3 different levels of fan speed and it controls both the case fans and the CPU cooler
its epic
bleak owl
the silent base 601 is average case
not that epic
(And now that I used it holy shit) its ur first case?
gloomy tinsel
How expensive is the water cool set really is?
quartz atlas
Depends
For a typical custom loop, add around $300 to your budget.
If you want hard fancy tubing, liquids, etc, add even more
If you want expensive high end water blocks
Prepare to shell out a few hundred for each cpu/gpu
maiden plume
Rule of thumb for water cooling is 1 component = one 120mm fan and radiator then + 1 for overclocking/headroom. Example for a cpu only loop would be at least 2 120mm fan + 240 radiator with 45mm thickness. Ek pump rez combos or AIOs just for cpu typically cost $150-250USD. Minimum for a full custom loop (1cpu, 1gpu) would be at least $400-600USD for water blocks, tubing, fittings, high static pressure fans, reservoir, pump and radiators. Not to mention tools like silicon inserts, heat gun, reamer and a saw/cutting tool for hard line tubing LOL.
So do you need to watercool? No. Is it cost effective? (Standard air, fans + cpu =$200-400max vs custom water which can range from $250-2000) Hell no. Maintenance? Drain loop every 6-8 months. Is it cool yep I went there though? Fuck yeah! Seriously though if you’re going for custom water and plan on overclocking to the max you better have highend parts. No one custom loops a 2070, non K CPU (if you’re intel or equivalent for amd) and has anything below a gold rated PSU.
maiden plume
TL:DR Watercooling is a mixed bag of fun and pain. It does cool better, sound better and look better. For a PRICE! 
tame topaz
Big bruh moment
What the hell is going on with my phone's youtube
When I connect my TWS buds the wifi connection pretty much grinds to a halt
When it's not connected it's smooth as butter
subtle hawk
shitty wireless module
tame topaz
Yeah that's what I'm thinking
This is a problem I've been having for a couple months but it's only now that I figured out the reason
valid acorn
https://youtu.be/DLiCxCw9mJU is this the same as other ultrawide monitors they provide?
bleak owl
Curved monitor stinks
bleak owl
severe falcon
lol
wary depot
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flint bobcat
kekw
severe falcon
yo i just got a pretty good deal on a 2 in 1
like $625 after tax for a 15" with a 10th gen i5 and it has a pen
quartz atlas
Is it a surface?
severe falcon
i like my monitors like i like my women, small, skinny, and working
1600x900
17"
hasnt broken yet
valid acorn
Since when 2 in 1 became popular
vagrant holly
doesn't monitor size not have an effect on its durability?
pretty sure most monitors last at least 5-7 years regardless of size
2 in 1 became popular ever since it started existing
if you don't need crazy performance and need more desk space, you go 2 in 1
valid acorn
I thought it died after 2 years of living
vagrant holly
hell no
they just are kind of niche
but they do have a market
like a university i worked at had all in ones in most of their classrooms
quartz atlas
Surface devices are some of the best selling products in the laptop market tho.
Well, premium laptop market
wary depot
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quartz atlas
Please post how u fixed it
wary depot
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bleak owl
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stone wave
I don't have a wired connection to my modem
so i got a wifi repeater but it's too big to plug into anything so it's connected to a cord saver and just sort of hanging there
and then i got a simple network switch plugged into it's ethernet out
and all my shit is plugged into the network switch
when i say cord saver i mean one of these things
so i guess outlet saver
quartz atlas
Why not run a ethernet cable through your house instead? 
Get one of those braided flat ones,
Run them along walls or ceilings
flint bobcat
i use powerline adapters and they run well
teal shale
I just use wifi bruh
Oh wait
Nvm im an idiot
My modem is just connected to an ethernet cable and we put it on a high shelf in the middle of the house
bleak owl
wifi unstable lul
teal shale
The biggest problem with wifi is the NAT type
Its 3 for wifi
But unless you are on PS4 its not THAT big of an issue
And ping is always less than 100 so its fine for games imo
The motherboard came with an antenna so its even more stable when downloading stuff
sage jacinth
I use a wired connection (almost) all the time. I have a NAS and want to ensure I can use the full 1000 mbps for my local network.
teal shale
Bruh 1000mbps i got 15 heh
stone wave
i don't feel like trying the powerline out cause i have shared utilities with 2 other separated units on the same property
wifi seems rather stable for me
but my place is small
and my range extender is sort of overkill
severe falcon
i just turned my computer into a snail for my wifi problems
stone wave
3.7/10 no RGB storage
vagrant holly
don't tell me that's an actual build you have in mind
the ROG shill build
also, everything about that build is overkill except for the mobo
why not the crosshair viii?
flint bobcat
Hm ill replace that then
stone wave
why do you need 128gb of ram?
stone wave
you ought to go with a custom open loop water cooling setup if you're making a build to flex
severe falcon
why do you need 4 TB of solid state
stone wave
preferably with metal hard lines
stone wave
those are so over priced
vagrant holly
you better have some good fucking case fans
severe falcon
like bruh a 7200rpm game hard drive is fine, ive never found a game where the hard drive was too slow to instantly load
also 128GB of ram is beyond overkill
stone wave
you can get any other 2tb nvme for $260
severe falcon
id still look at you like youre insane for 64 GB
flint bobcat
Yeah that's gonna be my budget build
flint bobcat
severe falcon
ok ariaaaa is a millionaire
stone wave
whew, still sane
flint bobcat
millionaire
severe falcon
8 is bare minumum, 16 is ok, 32 is nice
severe falcon
youre overspending tho
stone wave
those NVMEs are so not worth tho
severe falcon
you will never need even half your ram
flint bobcat
Well I do want a future proof PC
flint bobcat
DDR5 when
severe falcon
yeah like make a computer thats good and will last a while
vagrant holly
you can future proof for much less
severe falcon
like ive made my comp last 7 years, and i plan on making my next to last the same
stone wave
high end
severe falcon
and i can still play almost all the new games
vagrant holly
and the budget you save here can be used later on in upgrades
what monitor do you have anyway?
is it a 4k?
severe falcon
only thing it hates is ubisoft, but all comps hate those games
stone wave
you gonna be like fuck my 5 grand PC can't run 8k at 300hz or whatever the fuck in a couple of years
vagrant holly
yeah
vagrant holly
it's much better to stick to mid-high range rather than top end
stone wave
imho push high end but keep it reasonable
flint bobcat
I'll just use 2x16gb and 1 nvme
stone wave
just get cheaper nvmes
flint bobcat
i need that 5k rw speed
stone wave
those 600 dollar shits are a rip off
vagrant holly
also you don't need 128 gb of ram
64 is already overkill
128 is a mini server/workstation
severe falcon
then youre a normie
flint bobcat
The blinking lights on the front panels are my rgb
severe falcon
only true chads like @subtle hawk have RGB servers
flint bobcat
Also one day I'll repay you mith
stone wave
k, if i accidentally kill a hooker i'll dm you
severe falcon
wait
flint bobcat
No problem bud
stone wave
but yeah if you want high end try and hold out until DDR5
severe falcon
oh nvm
severe falcon
i read 3,500 MB/s as 3,500 Mb/s
flint bobcat
Is DDR5 technology even out yet?
severe falcon
and i was like "how is this nvme slower than my hard drives
stone wave
err the specs are out
severe falcon
technically yes
flint bobcat
oh
stone wave
SOON (tm)
severe falcon
arent graphics cards on GDDR6?
flint bobcat
soon™️
stone wave
severe falcon
i know they are different things, but you cant tell me theres NO overlap in technology between them
stone wave
beats me im not knowledgeable about the minutia
you gonna have to ask Yammy-chan about that
vagrant holly
wait for nvidia 3k
severe falcon
i dont want to ask yama, it always ends with me being bullied
vagrant holly
hopefully they figure out how to make a consistent rtx core by then
not that the 2080ti is bad, they really did improve since launch
severe falcon
im waiting for when they make the successor to SLI and crossfire
vagrant holly
i don't see sli and crossfire being of any use for gaming
stone wave
im fine with my current setup, here's my current gaming backlog
vagrant holly
they'll always be a workstation deal
severe falcon
do you know what SLI does?
vagrant holly
each card renders one frame
severe falcon
or it renders part of the screen per frame
meaning less time is spent per frame, meaning you can up the visuals
vagrant holly
it still never really seemed worth the cost tho
severe falcon
well yeah
vagrant holly
and besides, nvidia already has a successor doesn't it?
severe falcon
no one will buy 2 2080 Tis
vagrant holly
nv link i think
severe falcon
but they will def buy 2 2060s
and thats where its performance was
cuz i had ancient ATi cards from 2010 that could beat a 970 when the 900 series first came out
vagrant holly
yeah, that was the theory at the time
severe falcon
its not a theory
stone wave
it'
severe falcon
it was fact
stone wave
s
vagrant holly
but more and more tests showed overtime that it's just better to just buy a better card
severe falcon
well the problem is that it was up to the devs to add SLI support to the game
vagrant holly
ye
severe falcon
so like no games had it
vagrant holly
so they just threw it out the window because it wasn't giving as much performance as it could have
ultimately resulting in a waste of money
severe falcon
but if you pull an intel and just make it ALWAYS happen like with hyperthreading, then suddenly its a pretty good idea
vagrant holly
so it was always better to buy a more powerful single card
severe falcon
i doubt it was a waste of money
cuz why do they even make the 2060
why not just ONLY make 2080 Tis?
stone wave
I had what was it... 9600 GTX or whatever in SLI
vagrant holly
because 2080tis are 1k dollars
stone wave
it was useless
vagrant holly
severe falcon
yeah and i can pay like 500 for more than half the performance with SLI
severe falcon
in total, i spent $50 apiece for my ATI cards
vagrant holly
because multi gpu setups look fucking badass
severe falcon
and they worked better than a $400 970
stone wave
its dead no one wants to develop the support for it though
severe falcon
yeah so the new one will have support no matter what
vagrant holly
you sound like a bitcoin miner
severe falcon
i mean i like having lower power cards rather than one beefy boi
stone wave
and indie games can either run on a potato are so unoptimized having another GPU would mean you run that shit at 20 FPS instead of 15
severe falcon
Python literally cannot physically multithread, but intel makes it hyperthread no matter what
vagrant holly
devs have made huge progress overtime, to the point where even a budget build can nearly max out a AAA game just fine
severe falcon
i mean if they do it, then bitcoin miners buy out all their cards
like they would be printing money
stone wave
is card mining still viable
severe falcon
you havent seen ubisoft
i mean mining itself isnt viable
cuz you get like fractions of a percentage of a bitcoin
vagrant holly
considering how the only people mining nowadays are either companies with basically hangars full of cards or crazy people who have a shed that makes .50 dollars an hour, no, mining isn't viable
stone wave
considering the case with Nvidia and FreeSync support, we'd need major changes for any serious headway to be made in multi-gpu support
severe falcon
tbh i would try to make a neural network to analyze the blockchain and look for some kind of pattern to increase chances of successfully mining
stone wave
Shit, I'd say Stadia has a better chance of catching on than multi-GPU support within the next 5 years
severe falcon
DEF NOT
oops caps
stadia is a good idea for anywhere other than the US
we have gigabit internet in my town and i have never seen it even touch 100 Mbps
vagrant holly
it's good for korea
stone wave
Stadia, or your internet?
stone wave
When I had gigabit it actually went at that speed if whoever I was as downloading from allowed for it to go that quick.
severe falcon
big assumption that our ISP can even provide that speed in the first place
they have literally been doing "construction" to replace the copper wire with fiber for the past 7 years
there has never been any construction
stone wave
ouch yeah it was like that for a while here as well
i got some sort of fiber to node DSL shit rn
i get a bit over the advertised speed of 300 mbps
(too cheap to pay for the gigabit)
severe falcon
we cant even get gigabit at home, its only for businesses
stone wave
i think what pushed ISPs here to finally start offering better speeds was 4k streaming becoming common place
severe falcon
kinda impossible, cuz the internet isnt fast enough to stream 4k video
subtle hawk
smells like heresy in here
severe falcon
yama tell ariaaa hes dumb
stone wave
just blacklist him (again)
severe falcon
ban him from the arknights server
stone wave
shave his kawakaze
wary depot
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stone wave
rename him to bakaria
subtle hawk
aria is bog dum ye
stone wave
we should all chip in and send aria 128 GB of RAM
||128 sticks of DDR400 1GB||
subtle hawk
might need to retire the 1080 Ti
flint bobcat
@stone wave
flint bobcat
||yes ban me from ako server, I mass sent doujins in general||
subtle hawk
I have a 9000 GT
severe falcon
i have 2 possibly bricked Radeon HD 5870s
flint bobcat
@subtle hawk you're the big dumb
subtle hawk
ir the last person I wanna hear it from
severe falcon
wait yama, do you have a server comp with RGB?
wary depot
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stone wave
speaking of RGB, Aria where the fuck is your RGB power supply
you've failed us
again
quartz atlas
@flint bobcat wait for amphere you fking dingus
subtle hawk
the thor just has a OLED display
flint bobcat
Wtf is a ampshere
quartz atlas
Rtx 30series
quartz atlas
Ampere
severe falcon
wait like the unit of power?
stone wave
mineral oil PC with fesh inside of it
quartz atlas
I'm mean
stone wave
subtle hawk
yes like the unit of current
quartz atlas
Turing
severe falcon
huh
quartz atlas
The architecture names
subtle hawk
actually
quartz atlas
I like volta
subtle hawk
my mobo has a 3rd GPU slot
quartz atlas
Sounds cool
flint bobcat
severe falcon
my old, now bricked, mobo had 4 GPU slots
stone wave
i have 2 but im using a vertical mount so i effectively have 1
quartz atlas
severe falcon
what do you mean 4x4
subtle hawk
4 cards with 4 lanes each
flint bobcat
severe falcon
subtle hawk
maybe 4x8
quartz atlas
Also, Intel > amd 
severe falcon
not sure if the middle two could handle a double thick card tho
subtle hawk
since it probably uses bifurcation of the bus for that
severe falcon
i mean the mobo is dead
flint bobcat
Honestly I just like amds new line up better than Intel's
flint bobcat
It's hot here
quartz atlas
Intel 10th gen desktop isn't out yet
severe falcon
yeah but i get my 10th gen laptop next week
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quartz atlas
That's mobile cpus
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quartz atlas
Desktop cpus aren't even announced yet
severe falcon
still a better deal than the smaller one with the 8th gen
subtle hawk
just need to give the model a inspection
makd sure the engine is fine
then we take to the skies
subtle hawk
a model of a jet
quartz atlas
Nice
flint bobcat
What's the cost on the newest rtx 30s?
subtle hawk
or well fighter
severe falcon
wait like actual jet?
quartz atlas
Probs will be the same as launch price for 20 series
subtle hawk
actual jet engine
quartz atlas
Or cheaper
severe falcon
sweet
flint bobcat
Look at this rich dude
quartz atlas
Cuz amd might be putting some pressure to lower costs.
subtle hawk
engines are not expensive if you manufacture them yourself
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subtle hawk
it doesn't use a turbocompressor
severe falcon
yeah jet engines are kinda simple
subtle hawk
engineer
severe falcon
you dont even need a brain to make a pulsejet
subtle hawk
with a full tank it can fly for 15-20 min
flint bobcat
Is it full sized?
subtle hawk
and it does sound exactly like a fighter
subtle hawk
aria pls
quartz atlas
severe falcon
whats the speed?
stone wave
Aria pls
quartz atlas
How can a rc be full sized
subtle hawk
no idea on the speed
severe falcon
actually full size rc probably exists
subtle hawk
never measured it
stone wave
subtle hawk
yeah @severe falcon there exists
severe falcon
heck i bet some dude has a working firebee
quartz atlas
@severe falcon if you have a few billion to develop one sure
subtle hawk
it's called a predator drone
flint bobcat
Fish when you get your PC, play r6s with us
severe falcon
tfw you dont have any armaments and still get 2 mig kills
quartz atlas
It's prob gonna be many months
quartz atlas
Oh I suck tbh
subtle hawk
but ye fire the model has full set of control surfaces
wary depot
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quartz atlas
In Cs go i only play danger zone
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subtle hawk
I mean if I would add a turbocompressor to the engine then I could push it past mach 1
quartz atlas
severe falcon
scale or real mach 1
quartz atlas
Material strength strong enough to withstand tho?
stone wave
you'd get in so much trouble if you send anything going supersonic without the proper permissions
stone wave
ofc a whip is fine but that's just being pedantic
i mean an rc model going supersonic would break windows and set off PD gun shot detectors
and make every dog go fucking ballistic
subtle hawk
I use the road near our garage as the runway for the model
severe falcon
i mean the window breaking pressure wave is cuz you have a gigantic fighter jet going past the speed of sound
a lil model plane wont break things
stone wave
car alarms would go off
stone wave
like a tiny ass DJI drone gets you into trouble if you use em wrong
subtle hawk
good fuking luck breaking pane layered windows with a weee lil model
severe falcon
then again the fireworks of disney land can set off car alarms all the way in the parking lot
subtle hawk
US loves to put restrictions on stuff
severe falcon
if you mean "drone" as in quadcopter, thats cuz quadcopters are more of a privacy risk
stone wave
nah not just that
emergency service helicopters CANNOT fly near a drone
they just dont
not here in the us
subtle hawk
it's the US
severe falcon
yeah, which is why there are established heights that you cant go above
subtle hawk
the FAA is drunk
stone wave
so you get into a shit ton of trouble if they find a drone operator flying near a scene where a helicopter is needed
quartz atlas
You can't fly drones anywhere near icao certified airports
You'd get into major trouble
severe falcon
only if they dont attempt to stop flying when they know the helicopter is coming
quartz atlas
Imagine getting tower clearance for a drone to land at runway 02 
severe falcon
they cant be in trouble for not knowing things that cant be communicated to them
subtle hawk
with my model I'll definitely need clearance
subtle hawk
permission to buzz the tower 
stone wave
drones can easily be used for terrorism if terrorists weren't all dirt poor
severe falcon
lol not really
quartz atlas
Oh
severe falcon
you would not only need a drone, but an anti-jamming system
quartz atlas
I still need to find out where aria lives
stone wave
Somewhere in Sac Town last i checked
quartz atlas
Cuz when I'm a pilot. I need to crash my plane into his house.
stone wave
Just look for the one with a giant Kawakaze on the roof
quartz atlas
With this statement, I'm probably barred for life from US airspace
stone wave
there ain't gonna be jammers in a mall or a concert
severe falcon
that class B device cant be causing interference dontcha know
stone wave
RC models have been around forever but I ain't seen someone strap a bomb to a little RC truck before
stone wave
make a pseudo goliath mine type of deal
subtle hawk
RCXD
severe falcon
if you go wired, someone will notice beforehand, if you go wireless, it gets jammed
subtle hawk
there's jamming proof tech out there
stone wave
wifi, cellular network
severe falcon
yeah but making it yourself is hard and buying it probably gets you on a list
subtle hawk
but you need a fortune to be able to get it
stone wave
all you need is some fucked up college kid
severe falcon
i mean just do what was designed in ww2
stone wave
the guys working out of a cave ain't gonna do shit
but some crazy ass cult or some deranged guy with an education
severe falcon
identical punched strips on the transmitter and reciever, and you switch frequencies with it
now they have to jam ALL frequencies
stone wave
never know what sort of person is gonna be causing chaos
could be in a year, or 10 years down the road
severe falcon
or 10 years ago
humanity tends to be awful at using technology when it first develops
stone wave
look at that sarin gas atack in japan back i 95
severe falcon
like COMPLETELY TERRIBLE
holographic video chat is possible with tech they had in ww2
in realtime
heck, miku was possible before ww1
stone wave
the most advanced display technology was the CRT
stone wave
are you talking about something projected on glass like Tupac?
subtle hawk
optical holograms exist for ages
stone wave
or some scifi star trek type shit
stone wave
i guess you can use mirrors and mirror a reversed TV
subtle hawk
our best bet with holograms is AR
stone wave
but back then you'd need god awful amounts of hot lamps to get any sort of viewable recording/video transmission going with the studio cameras of those days
severe falcon
they had TV running through radio
also thats the magic part
because the image is a signal meaning you can signal process it
severe falcon
yeah
so you can do an outline filter on the image that the camera takes, then send it to the TV
subtle hawk
I can see the capital TV antenna from anywhere in the city
severe falcon
so you now have a lit outline showing up on the pane of glass in hologram form
subtle hawk
they also have a military grade satellite dish
severe falcon
only problem is the mechanical computer required to do the filter
stone wave
you could do a wired video telephone using TVs just prior to WWII
severe falcon
its def possible, but i dont think any human has existed with the knowledge to make it
the mechanical computer part, not yours
stone wave
IDK how far you'd get with a VHF transmission
severe falcon
yeah definitely skype couldve existed in ww2
subtle hawk
it has a data limit
severe falcon
but adding the holograms just makes it sound so much cooler
cuz we dont use them enough
subtle hawk
fire you need to take in consideration manufacturing
stone wave
which means 1930's 1940's studio cameras would not work
subtle hawk
things "could" exist if they had the same manufacturing capacity as today
severe falcon
nono like
stone wave
also an analog low res video transmission isnt useful for anything other than entertainment
subtle hawk
back then things had a abysmal yield
severe falcon
everything i said except for the hologram actually EXISTED as a technology in ww2
im not saying make it better, im saying using the existing equipment with a few changes couldve made it work
cuz they had images and sound through radio from live cameras
subtle hawk
back in WWs cathode tubes were made by hand
so say from 100 only 4-5 were of good quality
severe falcon
yeah but they still made them
like the tech was ACTIVELY used
just not for this specific case
subtle hawk
because it was economically not viable
severe falcon
or they didnt think of it
subtle hawk
you can guess how expensive those components were
severe falcon
ok but how does any of this make it not possible
stone wave
that's like saying they could have had transistors back in the 30's
severe falcon
so you mean to tell me that the live TV for the news broadcasts in black and white radio television during ww2 were not economically viable and didnt exist?
stone wave
or the white LED back in the 70's
severe falcon
but SOME can
subtle hawk
those that can have other things to do
severe falcon
so if ONE human can do it, that doesnt mean its possible?
its still impossible even though it could happen right now?
stone wave
it's like the deal with 5D storage
severe falcon
like at all
stone wave
it's been possible for like 10 years
subtle hawk
economics is not my field but you don't need that to know that to make things you need money
you don't have money you can't make it a reality
severe falcon
also the fact that if two news stations in ww2 set it up right, they could do the ww2 skype without paying a single cent more than they already spent
stone wave
if you find a chump to give you money that's one thing
severe falcon
but apparently possibility doesnt mean its not impossible
severe falcon
uhh
subtle hawk
or uni
stone wave
they did
severe falcon
how about RADIO
stone wave
first case iirc was in germany
severe falcon
ITS TWO WAY
severe falcon
man what if radio was only one way in ww2
subtle hawk
but it's literally impossible to give that to simple consumers
severe falcon
ok but we arent talking about everyone having it
subtle hawk
without spending decades making it cheaper, safer and more reliable
severe falcon
im saying its POSSIBLE
what about ITS POSSIBLE have you failed to get for the past 30 mins
subtle hawk
it's also possible to go to another solar system
stone wave
it's possible i can spontaneously combust in the next 24 hours
subtle hawk
but have we?
subtle hawk
well yeah you will
severe falcon
but apparently thats still impossible
subtle hawk
because you have knowledge from the past 2 decades
severe falcon
you dont need to change ANYTHING about the equipment
subtle hawk
yeah but people back then didn't know that
subtle hawk
it's like me going back to the bronze age and show them how to make guns
they don't need to change anything
severe falcon
nono you seem to still miss it yama
if you give me the equipment, i literally do not have to change a SINGLE THING and can do the skype thing
subtle hawk
exactly my point
they don't need to change a thing since a gun is basically a pipe full of gunpowder and a slug
severe falcon
they had a TV that captured images and audio, converted it to signals, and sent it to TVs, now connect two of those systems and you get SKYPE
stone wave
the steam engine existed in Roman times, but the industrial revolution didn't happen until all the pieces happen to fall together
subtle hawk
just show them what they can do with it
stone wave
that's just how things are
severe falcon
hold on
stone wave
the what-ifs are all simply conjecture
subtle hawk
as the saying goes
subtle hawk
hindsight is 20/20
stone wave
yeah i dont get the point of the topic
severe falcon
its not teaching them how to make guns, its teaching them that their already made firework cannons can kill things if you point them at said thing
you do not change ANYTHING about ANY of their technology AT ALL
you just tell them "try this" and it works
stone wave
they'll just say it's a neat trick and point you to PT Barnum or something
severe falcon
but apparently thats illegal and still impossible becuase you two seem to think im taking back a modern desktop for them
stone wave
a lot of things get released that are new and interesting but don't take off
stone wave
then a few years or decades later when the idea rolls around it's popular
severe falcon
nothing about this is new
severe falcon
nothing has been invented in any way
stone wave
and?
severe falcon
THATS WHAT IM ASKING YOU
stone wave
you're giving us half a statement and we're trying to fill in the blank
severe falcon
i was just saying "hey it was possible to do this" and both of you said "no its fucking not"
stone wave
i straight up pointed out how it was possible
severe falcon
and now ive told you exactly how its possible and you two are like "so what"
stone wave
TV, mirror, glass bam tupac style hologram
severe falcon
am i not allowed to send messages on discord without some underlying goal?
severe falcon
and you were the one who related it to completely improbable things
like spontaneous combustion
stone wave
cause there was concise conversation point
so i just ran with Flobots - Handlebars.mp3
subtle hawk
I ran arguments.xslx
severe falcon
i ran test.py
stone wave
i'm running microsoftbob.exe
stone wave
peanutbutter.jif
Anyways I ordered a displayport cable cause mine is just short enough that it falls out if I move my monitor. Is it just me or is this thing comedically thick?
stone wave
subtle hawk
what kind of flimsy ass DP cable is that
stone wave
fuck if i know
i dont even know where i got it from
but it's going into the box where i throw all my random cables once i feel like switching it out for the one i ordered
bleak owl
gloomy tinsel
Buying processor is included with fan in the box? or not
because my friend said, If you buy processor there is a cooler included in the box
air cooler
but I'm not sure about this
tame topaz
I still mourn for Project Ara
Name aside, it just seemed like such an awesome concept at the time
I still remember reading about it like 4 years ago
subtle hawk
ara ara
stable sonnet
Ara ara~
bleak owl
subtle hawk
bleak owl
what monitor u have now?
subtle hawk
Samsung curve CF390 for my main, and then a random Gateway monitor for my second lol
tame topaz
damn
teal shale
Im coming from the realm of 144hz and lemme tell you its epic
I also have a samsung monitor but its a 1080p 144hz curved gaming monitor btw and its also pretty epic
maiden plume
^What games do you play, I wonder?
teal shale
Bruh
I play D2 because I love paying a lot of money for yearly DLCs and a Season pass alongside with Eververse microtransactions
Although playing D2 at 144hz with stable 144fps feels SUPER good, the best thing in that game is the FPS aspect and oh god mouse and keyboard and the smoothness of PC makes that game an awesome experience
brave anchor
wary depot
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gloomy tinsel
bleak owl
vagrant holly
i won't like i'm kinda hyped for it
gloomy tinsel
So I just found people's in youtube open up his new Processor and remove the paste. and put another paste into it, and install the cooler on top of it
I don't think I need to do this method
But I want to ask? is it really drop the CPU temperature up to 20%?
vagrant holly
usually, coolers have pre- applied paste and it'll be more than enough
that guy you saw probably had his paste dried up and simply not working as efficiently anymore
good paste can have significantly better performace yes, but it's hard to find "bad" paste nowadays unless you go to ali express and buy off of some dodgy chinese manufacturer
oh hold up
gloomy tinsel
vagrant holly
by opening up the processor, do you mean de-lidding?
vagrant holly
it's a process cann de-lidding
and yes, it can boost thermal performance, but it's risky as you could damage the die in the process
gloomy tinsel
I'm not going to do that because I'm not pc expert
vagrant holly
it's not worth the effort if you aren't doing high tier overclocking anyway
gloomy tinsel
Meanwhile the cpu can only boost to 4.2Ghz
I'm afraid doing this
Maybe I just going to call my friend who is expert at Installing pc parts
vagrant holly
what's the issue
you need to remove the black plastic covers before installing the cooler
unscrew them
maiden plume
Err is that thing locked in place or is that sitting just on top?
vagrant holly
oh shit
ptsd
@gloomy tinsel you lifted the retention arm before putting the cpu down in the socket right?
i was watching on the wrong side
teal shale
Ryzen 5 3600 gang
gloomy tinsel
@vagrant holly Yep, I just finished the build with my friend.
The monitor isn't came yet, so we used tv 
vagrant holly
oh nice
tame topaz
wary depot
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maiden plume
There are easier ways to delete your files mate
wary depot
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buoyant egret
buoyant egret
I’m so glad the Wayback Machine exists
I sometimes use it to relieve childhood memories circa 2004-2013
Anyways, sad Flash is going away
Almost every website in the 2000s used it and I feel nostalgic
wary depot
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subtle hawk
@wary depot run the program as admin
wary depot
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buoyant egret
wary depot
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subtle hawk
RIP 1tb HDD
subtle hawk
to think that nowadays 1TB is considered a small capacity drive
vagrant holly
1tb is considered bare minimum nowadays ye
1tb hard drives are pretty cheap anyway
valid acorn
"Nowadays"
severe falcon
stop kink shaming my 14 yr old 240 GB OS hard drive
stable sonnet
When I can only fit a handful of games on my 1tb SSD because R6 has to be 200 GBs you definitely start to feel like 1 tb is small
quartz atlas
Why the fuck is r6 200gb?
bleak owl
wary depot
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bleak owl
quartz atlas
Wtf. Why?
wary depot
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bleak owl
For me it's 68gb
odd falcon
teal shale
67gb update wtf
buoyant egret
I find it hilarious that most grade schools and some universities buy brand new computers, then downgrades them to Windows XP
vagrant holly
when that happens, it's usually because they have boomer technicians/teachers who refuse to move on
severe falcon
tho getting the most up to date OS might cause security issues like with win10
buoyant egret
subtle hawk
Anyone who thinks win10 is less secure than xp has no idea how security works
quartz atlas
Even China doesn't do this shit
buoyant egret
Schools 🙂
severe falcon
uhh you are forgetting that win10 recently had an exploit that allowed a man in the middle attack through UPDATES
subtle hawk
Sure, but it's patched now
severe falcon
it was so bad that the NSA put out a statement
yeah but thats cuz the NSA said something
subtle hawk
Think of how many unpatched XP exploits are out there
buoyant egret
According to schools, it’s still 2001 🙂
severe falcon
if the NSA kept quiet, NO ONE WOULD KNOW
subtle hawk
You really think they wouldn't have fixed it unless the NSA said something?
subtle hawk
Also, you really think the NSA announced it publicly before telling MS?
That's not how responsible disclosure works
buoyant egret
When I was younger in 2014-2016 in high school, my school bought of load of brand new computers
All with Windows 8
severe falcon
well stuxnet sure wasnt responsible disclosure