technology

[severe falcon]

no

bad

its pink

[tame topaz]

No it is RGB

[severe falcon]

the plastic around it

[tame topaz]

Ah fine

https://www.newegg.com/darkflash-flex-series-flex-800/p/173-0160-00001?Description=rgb mousepad&cm_re=rgb_mousepad-_-9SIAE868JA8085-_-Product

A more reputable brand, namely Adata: https://www.newegg.com/p/32K-00G4-00001?Description=rgb mousepad&cm_re=rgb_mousepad-_-9SIAJNUA7S0660-_-Product

[severe falcon]

see i want the entire mousepad to be rgb light

and then i can create my own waifu

[tame topaz]

No brands do that

Even the reputable ones

You might as well buy an Arduino and do it yourself

it's always only round the edges

[severe falcon]

but they have it on the inside too

and i just want only inside

[tame topaz]

wdym inside

[severe falcon]

the actual pad part

like the heart on miku

thats actually mousepad right there

[tame topaz]

Oh, like you want printed?

[severe falcon]

nono like

[tame topaz]

Oh I get it

Then welp, tough luck, no brand does that

[severe falcon]

if they made it where the whole pad is rgb like that miku heart, then i could make my own waifu part to put over it

and now i get like an AL siren but her glow IS the rgb

[tame topaz]

Sounds like a DIY project to me

But do note that these cheaper pads don't have software control for the RGB

you press a button to cycle through the modes (of which there are not that many)

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WNxhvW

Anyway here's the slightly modified part list

Doesn't include wristrest and mousepad.

[severe falcon]

i have an idea

[tame topaz]

Go on

[severe falcon]

https://sg.carousell.com/p/barracuda-frosted-edge-hard-plastic-dual-sided-translucent-mousepad-228971015/

and then you put rgb under it

[tame topaz]

I see where this is going

Nice

Time to grab an Arduino then

[severe falcon]

i have 2

[tame topaz]

And a ton of 5V LED strips

[severe falcon]

yeah i need those

i can probably just put it on my powered USB hub

[tame topaz]

You'd have to program your own RGB modes, yes

I'm sure you can do that pretty easily

[severe falcon]

yeah which means i can do BETTER than what the professional companies can do

[tame topaz]

lol nice

Should be fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NymCw0jhULU

A guy did it with a cutting board

But still only lights up the edges

[severe falcon]

wait

i can use the cutting board to hide the rgbs in

[tame topaz]

How big do you want it to be again?

[severe falcon]

and then i can get a custom printed waifu mousepad, cut out the bits i want to glow, and then glue it on the top

[tame topaz]

You'd need like 2 cutting boards for 80-ish cms

[severe falcon]

nah ill just get it for the mouse

[tame topaz]

https://bettermousepads.com/seethrus/seethrus.html

These guys do custom printing too, but seems like it's only for businesses

Also the one you posted is used

[severe falcon]

ah

yeahh ill look into it more

[vast sand]

@severe falcon why not just get a big rgb mousepad

like those desktop mousepads

then get another waifu mousepad on top of it

its much easier

[severe falcon]

nono like

rgb mousepads are only the ring around the pad

im talking about the entire pad glowing

[vast sand]

why tho

[severe falcon]

cuz itll look cool

[vast sand]

its gonna be really distracting

buy a light pad

[severe falcon]

yeah cuz the rgb mouse and keyboard aint distracting

[vast sand]

its gonna look weird tho

[severe falcon]

how

[vast sand]

So ok

Imagine your desk

With a rgb keyboard

then you have this one pad beside it that is just like bright light

cycling through colours

and then you have another mouse on top of it

[severe falcon]

big assumption that its gonna be cycling

[vast sand]

cycling through rgb as well

what colour do you want

[severe falcon]

idk

[vast sand]

i only know white exist

[severe falcon]

its all gonna be the same color, but i might change that color

[vast sand]

its still gonna be weird tho

wait

[severe falcon]

like all the rgb of everything is gonna be solid

[vast sand]

A4 A3 LED Art Craft Design Tracing Photo Drawing Tattoo Light Box Pad Lamp Lightbox for S$45 https://sg.carousell.com/p/187452864

inagine this

but its like bright red

or bright blue

[severe falcon]

yeah but then im stuck with the rest of my rgb having to be that color

the way im talking means i get 16,777,216 colors at the touch of a button

but like look at all the yellow on this image, now make it glow

[vast sand]

yeah i dont think thats gonna work

[severe falcon]

how

[vast sand]

unless

drawing tablet

but you use it as a mouse pad

[severe falcon]

or i get a translucent mousepad, put rgb under it, and then put a template and clear pad on top

[vast sand]

still wont work

[severe falcon]

how

explain

[vast sand]

cables

for your rgb

[severe falcon]

yeah?

[subtle hawk]

also are you sure it's all 24-bit color without being limited by PWM frequency?

[severe falcon]

its UNDER two pads

[vast sand]

will make weird bumps under your mousepad

yeah

it still will have bumps

unless the pads are hard

[severe falcon]

ok, then ill do the cutting board thing

[vast sand]

you also need to learn soldering

[severe falcon]

and then ahve the clear pad

[vast sand]

because rgb by itself rarely exists

[severe falcon]

or i just use a breadboard

[vast sand]

its usually just strips

[severe falcon]

i have an arduino with a built-in breadboard

[vast sand]

then you need a power source

[subtle hawk]

lol this guy just jamming solderless breadboard into everything

[severe falcon]

USB

[vast sand]

usually rgb strips use 2 pin connectors

2-4 pins

then you also need a template

that is custom printed

[severe falcon]

or, since im going to use a clear pad on top of it

i can just print it out

[vast sand]

still you cant just pring a picture

[subtle hawk]

2 pins?

[vast sand]

its gonna be bad quality

@subtle hawk yeah

[subtle hawk]

TWI?

[vast sand]

idk

[severe falcon]

uhh then ill make it more than 4k

[vast sand]

you'll need a very good printer

[severe falcon]

or i just need to know how to use a printer

[vast sand]

you'll also need to consider the fact that paper does turn yellow after a few years

[subtle hawk]

don't know any other way to implement LED strip with pin count that low

[severe falcon]

guess what

I CAN PRINT ANOTHER ONE FOR LESS THAN A CENT

[subtle hawk]

I remember it's just a big shift register cascade

[vast sand]

not all printers can print high res images

[subtle hawk]

[severe falcon]

uhh thats usually cuz you dont mess with the DPI settings

[vast sand]

Not all printers have 4k printing

[subtle hawk]

what about 600dpi cmyk

[vast sand]

You cant force a printer to print something more than it can print

[subtle hawk]

or even 300

[vast sand]

300dpi is too low

[severe falcon]

yeah but DPI settings are what the printer can actually do

[vast sand]

You need at least 400dpi for a good image

at least 400

[subtle hawk]

but the thing is you can't print 600dpi cmyk on consumer printer lol

[vast sand]

300dpi is 1080p

[severe falcon]

pingable, you have no idea how dpi works

[vast sand]

600dpi black and white yeah possible

@severe falcon 300dpi is like 1080p

[severe falcon]

you cannot ever convert dpi to resolution unles you have the physical size

no wrong

[vast sand]

its pixel density

[subtle hawk]

it still matters though

[vast sand]

400+dpi is like 1440p

500+dpi is like 4k

[subtle hawk]

you forget to account for distance from the eyes

[severe falcon]

yeah so 300 dpi on a 6.4" x 3.6" area is 1080p

[subtle hawk]

most of the time you look at the screen at nearly your fov

[severe falcon]

because its 300 dots per inch

[vast sand]

i mean still

its not reccomended to print your own picture out for a mousepad

justlikewhythorgbmousepad

[severe falcon]

cuz its cool and custom

even on this standard office mousepad, i can get 2550x2400 at 300 dpi

[vast sand]

yeah but the point for mousepads is to give better surface for the laser of the mouse to track the surface

[severe falcon]

yeah

and im using a clear mousepad on the top

[vast sand]

you gonna use bread boards for it

its gonna be thick

you also need spacing for your cables dont forget that

[severe falcon]

or i just keep the arduino off the end of the pad

[vast sand]

cables are at least 0.3mm thick

[severe falcon]

so i only need space for wires and the rgbs

[vast sand]

yeah you still need cables to route your rgb under the mousepad

i dont see how its gonna work out

[severe falcon]

ok so 0.3mm + thickness of translucent part + 0.1mm + clear pad

so thats still very thin

considering how thicc my current pad is

[vast sand]

you still have your breadboard

[severe falcon]

outside the pad

[vast sand]

yeah but its part of it right?

[severe falcon]

you think i can fit an arduino in a mousepad?

[vast sand]

wait

what about the cutting board

[severe falcon]

thats the translucent part

[vast sand]

translucent rgb

[severe falcon]

well yeah you dont want to be looking directly into bright rgbs

[vast sand]

dont get a cutting board

get like a thing piece of frosted acrylic

[severe falcon]

hmmm

and if i get a thicker one, i can still cut areas to put the wires and rgbs in

[vast sand]

yeah i still dont think it will work out

you're still better off using a cheap tablet as a mousepad

[severe falcon]

thats not the same tho

with mine, there is glow only on certain parts

a tablet is full glow all the time everywhere

[vast sand]

i still dont think its gonna work out

[severe falcon]

where tho

like where is it gonna go wrong

[vast sand]

everywhere

if you want glow on certain parts you need to learn soldering

to solder lets say a single rgb light to a cable

[severe falcon]

you dont seem to understand

i was glow on certain parts on a picture

[vast sand]

yeah

[severe falcon]

where the picture and locations could change

[vast sand]

you still need to solder

even if its rows of strips

[severe falcon]

why

[vast sand]

because you cant possibly bend a stripl 180 degs around and continue it

and rgb strips arent fully covered with leds

there are spacing between each rgb led

and paper isnt fully opaque

light can pass through it

so it would create this weird halo effect

[severe falcon]

then ill put black construction paper behind the image

[vast sand]

what if the area where you want the light to be so happens to fall on one of the spacing between the leds

also arduino boards cant program led strips for one of the leds to light up only

led strips function as a whole

you'll also need a backplate behind the leds

[severe falcon]

wait

i found something

https://www.amazon.com/DIYmall-Matrix-WS2812-Inserted-Arduino/dp/B07T2D4QGJ/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=thin+led+array&qid=1582750059&s=industrial&sr=1-4

also i would have them all on anyway

[vast sand]

yeah about that you'll need a back plate

so that they wont move around

and also the "dead spots"

would be another problem

[severe falcon]

what dead spots

[vast sand]

the spacing between the leds

[severe falcon]

what do you think the translucent layer is for?

it removes those gaps

[vast sand]

then the lighting wont be as balanced

[severe falcon]

what do you mean

[vast sand]

some may appear bright and some may appear darker

[severe falcon]

how

[vast sand]

because even if its translucent it doesnt fully spread the light source

light doesnt magically evenly spread itself

[severe falcon]

well i assume its the same level of translucency

[vast sand]

its gonna be really thick as well

[severe falcon]

there might be darker areas at the corners of the pixels

but it shouldnt matter when alot of it will be covered by something

[vast sand]

probably about 1cm thick if you could find a really thing cutting board

and its gonna be expensive

thats another thing

those leds cost 13 for just 8x8

[severe falcon]

listen, ill figure it out

[vast sand]

you'll need at least 12 of them for

a 3x4 setup

i mean if it works for you go ahead

but lemme tell you its not gonna work out

[severe falcon]

and your other idea was to buy a tablet

[vast sand]

yeah a tablet would be probably better

[severe falcon]

its about the same price

[vast sand]

ehh sort of

depends on what you get

still not reccomended tho

spending 100+ for a mousepad

i dont even have a mousepad

i prefer the cold feeling of my table

makes my build look cleaner as well

just black with white lights

[stone wave]

mouse pad is more for protecting the table and the mouse feet

[severe falcon]

yeah but i want it to look cool

[stone wave]

get a desk mat with a design you like

[severe falcon]

keyboard would cover most of it

[stone wave]

This is what my desk looks like rn

im using a different keyboard cable than usual cause the one i got for it is in a box somewhere and im too lazy to dig it out rn

[subtle hawk]

looks clean

but too smol for my liking

[stone wave]

yeah finally managed to ditch my cheap ass particle board desk when i moved

i could fit in a full sized if i like but 75% is that sweet spot for me

[vagrant holly]

that's the nerdiest looking keyboard i have ever seen

[stone wave]

i have a silver badge model m

i think that would be more nerdy

[subtle hawk]

still surprised how you managed to convert that

my model m's a 1988 one so it has the left-shift gray logo & lock lights instead lol

still pretty surprised I got it new in box for roughly $110 shipped

[stone wave]

mine was listed as parts only

i only got it cause it had the barcode sticker

[subtle hawk]

desk update

wow wtf is all that light coming from

my window is closed

there was a bolt modded ibm ssk up on ebay going for like $350 the other day

i was soooooo tempted to get it since it was lubed too but

[stone wave]

just wait for the unicomp ssks

[subtle hawk]

i'd get a unicomp ssk but

then i'd have to source old caps

plus their ssks have the fuuuuugly lock lights randomly on the top

[stone wave]

if you're not particular then go for the terminal ones

[subtle hawk]

tim u ever tried creams?

err

c^3 tangerines my bad

[stone wave]

nah

[subtle hawk]

just found out about these today and they sound divine

i want a board with some now

[stone wave]

linear gateron inks sound great too

[subtle hawk]

apparently they give vintage mx blacks a run for their money

ooh lubed gateron inks are

ridiculous

[stone wave]

im at 2.8k oil

...

[vast sand]

im at 900 oil

[stone wave]

im happy with my current keyboard so i havent been eyeing anything else recently

not that i can get anything shipped over from china rn anyways

[vast sand]

your setup is clean tho

damn

[stone wave]

Ikea Gerton table top

[vast sand]

i kinda aiming for that setup

[stone wave]

solid beech wood @ like 100 lbs.

[vast sand]

my table is made of marble

[stone wave]

my old desk use to literally sag

cause of the weight

[vast sand]

rip

[stone wave]

my monitors are on gas spring mounts, my mic is also mounted on a boom arm type of thing and i have a lamp that is mounted on the edge of the desk as well

[vast sand]

i cant mount a boom

on my desk

[stone wave]

I got this: https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/gerton-tabletop-beech-50106773/

[vast sand]

like everything has to be on my desktop

[stone wave]

2 legs and an ALEX drawer

[vast sand]

i cant mount anything behind it or on the sides

the amount of cable management i'll have to do

[stone wave]

NGL I half-assed the cable management

cause i got too much shit going on

[vast sand]

i mean its still pretty clean because you can just dump ur cables behind ur desk

[vast sand]

i literally have to use those cable clips that you stick to the wall to cable manage stuff

i mean its still clean

wait

is that a psu

[stone wave]

no that's a UPS

[vast sand]

nvm

still looks damn clean ngl

[stone wave]

I got a WiFi range extender plugged into the the UPS which has an ethernet cable going into that white box which hides a surge protector and a network switch

cause the modem is too far away

[vast sand]

i have to put my pc on my desk

[stone wave]

and i don't want to route an ethernet cable across the damn floor

[vast sand]

my ethernet cable is most likely gonna be conmected to the router i have in the hallway

[stone wave]

im looking at 160ms ping

[vast sand]

so i gotta find a way to get it past my door without it getting sqiushed

damn 160ms

[stone wave]

its bad but i dont really do much online gaming now adays

if it becomes an issue in the future i can deal with it then

[vast sand]

whats ur download speed

[stone wave]

errr 300 mbps or so if im plugged directly to the modem

[vast sand]

nani

[stone wave]

i used to have gigabit but i down graded after moving

[vast sand]

ohh

thats why

[stone wave]

cause i didnt feel like paying the extra

[vast sand]

300mbps is still pretty good tho

[stone wave]

$20 more and i get gigabit again

but i dont really need it

[vast sand]

my wifi speed goes up to like 2gbps but it drops quite constantly

[stone wave]

idk what my download speeds over this wifi range extender is

in theory it caps out at 300 mbps

but i havent bothered trying

[vast sand]

the only problem now is that my pc needs a wifi card

[stone wave]

the range extender im using has an ethernet out, so i plugged a network switch to it

[vast sand]

damn what kind of range extender is that

ineedit

[stone wave]

its some cheap ass netgear thing

i got off amazon a while back

[vast sand]

[stone wave]

like it's only 2.4 ghz

so i think it might be kinda old

[vast sand]

i mean af least u have somewhere to plug ur ethernet cable

[stone wave]

it's ethernet but it's still wifi

lmao

if i still played any sort of online game i'd be annoyed

[vast sand]

i need an ethernet cable about 7 metres long if i were to link it to the secondary router in my hallway

the main router is like another 10 metres away

[stone wave]

i think i have this thing

https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Wi-Fi-Range-Extender-EX2700/dp/B00L0YLRUW/

[vast sand]

its better than my weakass xiaomi range booster i have in my room rn

i bought it because my old potato laptop barely hits 20mbps in my room

after i bought it i got around 30-50mbps

still kinda depressing when you're download games

steam usually records 1-5mbps download speeds

[stone wave]

i might pony up for a higher end thing later down the line if i decide i need to

[vast sand]

https://sg.carousell.com/p/278995672

i have this potato thing in my room

[stone wave]

im eyeing something like https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MR90E3A/

[vast sand]

damn

[stone wave]

thats if i happen to need it later down the line

cause i dont need low latency to stream videos or music or play fucking AL or AK

[tame topaz]

https://youtu.be/V1_uKWufpt0

HW Unboxed talks AMD graphics drivers

[maiden plume]

I mean amd drivers have been up there with the space heater jokes since time in memoriam though?

[valid acorn]

Are they ok right now? Or they need to pay a visit to psychology

[bleak owl]

the fuk is that coolermaster shitty mouse and keyboard combo

[severe falcon]

its called being cheap

[valid acorn]

What kind of an ergonomic design is this

[gloomy tinsel]

Is the K55 Corsair keyboard good for budget?

[vagrant holly]

k55 was membrane wasn't it?

i think i remember it because it was one of the keyboards i was considering for my new system

ye it's that one i just checked

tbh, if you're gonna spend that much for a keyboard, if it ends up being membrane anyway, you're pretty much just paying a premium for the backlight

[gloomy tinsel]

The backlight is only green rgb

[vagrant holly]

nah it has icue

unless we're talking about different keyboards

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Gaming-Keyboards/Standard-Gaming-Keyboards/K55-RGB-Gaming-Keyboard/p/CH-9206015-NA

this is the k55

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh it is. maybe I was seeing it was set on green only

[vagrant holly]

don't base yourself off of the product picture

it has full range rgb with icue but i still wouldn't go for it, i mean i didn't go for it

i opted to go for a mechanical keyboard with red switches

it was about the same price because it's not a big manufacturer (rii gaming, never heard of it before)

it has outemu reds tho and i only heard good things about outemu so eh

only catch is, it's not rgb, it only has red backlight

but i don't really give a dam about rainbow puke so it's whatever

if you're on a budget, getting an entry level mechanica keyboard, maybe even with limited color selection like i did, could be more cost effective in the long run

since mechanical keyboards last much longer than membrane

[gloomy tinsel]

So I'm seing that keyboard as Mechanical in other webs are Hoax?

[vagrant holly]

if they are advertising it as a mechanical, yes, it's a hoax

the k68 from corsair is a mechanical keyboard they make

tho it only has red backlight

and it is much more expensive

[gloomy tinsel]

I have budget about 150usd for the keyboard and mouse

[vagrant holly]

where do you live?

as in, what's your currency?

[gloomy tinsel]

Osaka ¥

[vagrant holly]

my keyboard is a "rii gaming k66"

it only has red backlight, no rgb

but it has various options for various effects if that's your thing

breathing, wave, or even custom macro

it doesn't have dedicated macro keys like the corsair k55

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71xJrGzQlYL._SX466_.jpg

this is what i have

it's pretty cheap for what you get

seeing as you live in japan, the import costs should lower the price even more compared to me (Italy)

altho, be careful about packages from China

at least for now, there is no evidence against the corona virus actually surviving on the surface of packages/products from china

[gloomy tinsel]

ok

It's far cheaper

But it has good quality?

[vagrant holly]

it's what i bought, it works well, build quality is decent for the price, only issue i personally found is when i press keys, the backplate emits a bit of a metallic sound, depending on the person, it could be a deal breaker, to me personally, since i'm wearing ear buds anyway, i can't really hear the metallic sound, as for the switches, they are outemu reds, outemu is somewhat reputable when it comes to mechanical switches as far as i know

if you want, you can wait until a few more people give you feedback, some people are nuts about keyboards here, and they likely know more about mechanical switches than i do

if you want to stick with corsair, as i said, they have the k68

it doesn't have rgb, it only has red backlight, but it's mechanical

and has the same design as the k55

wait mb

i'm talking about the k70

k68 has a slimmer design

[gloomy tinsel]

I need slimmer design because My hand is small

[vagrant holly]

oh

[gloomy tinsel]

and this is the first time I'm going to pc stuff. since I use my brother pc

[vagrant holly]

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Mechanical-Keyboard-Backlit-Resistant/dp/B0716Q4932/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=corsair+k68&qid=1582975079&s=electronics&sr=1-3

this is the k68

it does have an rgb variant but considering how much more expensive it is, i don't think it's worth the price

[gloomy tinsel]

yea I see

the RGB variant add 20 dollar

[vagrant holly]

ye, from amazon.com at least

oh there you go

https://www.amazon.co.jp/s?k=corsair+k68&__mk_ja_JP=カタカナ&ref=nb_sb_noss_1

yen

[gloomy tinsel]

and I was going to make my own pc so I don't need to borrow my brother pc.
With the budget my friend give me advice to use the Amd ryzen 5 and gtx 1070

I forgot which ryzen 5 type of processor

[vagrant holly]

1st gen 1600
2nd gen 2600
3rd gen (latest) 3600

[gloomy tinsel]

I think it was the 3600

[vagrant holly]

good choice

[tame topaz]

Apparently Biostar made an H61 mobo in 2020

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/news/news.php?S_ID=399

[gloomy tinsel]

And my budget it about 100k ¥ to 120k ¥ that's for building my pc

[tame topaz]

ooh, a Japanese?

[vagrant holly]

that's a good budget

you don't need alot of money to make a strong pc nowadays

even a budget build will perform very well

[gloomy tinsel]

with that specs it's pretty strong right?

[vagrant holly]

hold up

ye it's alright

[gloomy tinsel]

@tame topaz I'm not actually japanese. I'm from singapore but I lived in japan nowadays

[tame topaz]

3600 and 1070. Seems good.

And ah, I see

[vagrant holly]

wanted to check how prices were on the 1070 to see if there was a upgrade for a small premium, doesn't seem like it

[tame topaz]

F

2070 is still expensive

[gloomy tinsel]

My friend sending his message for all the builds

But I don't understand these

[vagrant holly]

we're here to help

[gloomy tinsel]

wait what is micro atx

motherboard

[tame topaz]

@gloomy tinsel Motherboard size

Give us the model

[gloomy tinsel]

So the build
Amd ryzen 3600
Gtx 1070
asroc b450m Micro atx
amd wraith cpu cooler
Kingston hyperfury 2x8gb 3200
samsung evo 970 500gb
2tb Hdd seagate
and corsair 550W power supply
that's from my friend link

[tame topaz]

@vagrant holly cyber

[gloomy tinsel]

He is the one know things about pc?

[tame topaz]

You think he should go with a better mobo?

And he's the guy you've been talking to

[gloomy tinsel]

oh ok

[tame topaz]

Yeah this seems good enough

What about the case?

[gloomy tinsel]

He said the case I can give you one of mine that I don't use

[tame topaz]

I see

Wonder what kind

Do you have pics?

[gloomy tinsel]

He didn't chat to me yet

nimitz tr 5000

that's the case

[tame topaz]

Looks good, though I am definitely not certain about the airflow

Hold up it takes front fans to the side?

Huh

[gloomy tinsel]

I've looked at it's review in youtube. the air flow from the top

wait the front fan, covered by glass

that means the front fan is not useful

[tame topaz]

@gloomy tinsel no the front fan goes to the side

The side has holes for fans to suck air in

Not a bad idea honestly

Helps aesthetics too

[vagrant holly]

sorry was busy

[tame topaz]

From the sounds of it it seems like the mobo is the Pro4

[vagrant holly]

i think b450s need a bios update to work with 3rd gen ryzen

[tame topaz]

God help him if it's the HDV tho

[vagrant holly]

they aren't compatible out of the box

[tame topaz]

His friend is gonna give him a case

Front fans go to the side

(with pretty decent-looking air holes)

mATX

[bleak owl]

150 u buy a ducky 2 one mini

Or the new one

Mecha

[vagrant holly]

ducky are for keyboard freaks

[bleak owl]

[tame topaz]

I got this combo for 28 bucks

[bleak owl]

🚮

[tame topaz]

Mouse is serviceable but I already have a Harpoon I bought a few weeks prior

Keyboard is nice.

Full RGB, Outemu blues.

[bleak owl]

Why not g203?

[tame topaz]

Meh, don't like membrane

And expensive

[bleak owl]

It's a mouse

[tame topaz]

Oh, mouse?

[bleak owl]

Mercury sensor

[tame topaz]

Too ubiquitous, not to mention small

[bleak owl]

Around 20-25€

[tame topaz]

I want something a bit different

[vagrant holly]

203 is crazy good for the price

[tame topaz]

I heard many reports of double clicking too

[bleak owl]

And the keyboard is mechanical?

Hm

[tame topaz]

Yes

Outemu blue

[bleak owl]

Pretty good then

[tame topaz]

Prior to that I was using Kailh blue

[bleak owl]

Budget mechanicals have blue switch

[tame topaz]

(Note: that one I got for free)

Won it at a random drawing

[bleak owl]

[tame topaz]

Used it for 2 years until I missed the numpad again

[bleak owl]

Are u a hentai artist?

[tame topaz]

[bleak owl]

And that case is

Front is fully closed

[tame topaz]

Side fans

[bleak owl]

That means 0 airlow

Hm

I'm blind then

[tame topaz]

It has holes for that

I just realized

It might as well not be the best idea either

You'd have to route cables so that it doesn't block the ventilation

And it's an mATX case

Not to mention having those fans there kinda make dust prevention somewhat useless

(Unless he buys filters)

[bleak owl]

How much is that?

[tame topaz]

In the case of the person asking, free

[bleak owl]

free wtf

Ur friend hentai artist too?

[tame topaz]

@bleak owl no

Scroll up

There's someone asking for build advice

[wary depot]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[bleak owl]

Helo @wary depot

@tame topazkeiko?

[tame topaz]

Yeah

[bleak owl]

Oh ok

@gloomy tinsel the build is fine, ask for the model of the psu

And for 150 u can buy premium keyboard

[tame topaz]

I think it's either CX or VS (or the new CX replacement)

and btw he lives in Japan

[bleak owl]

The cx is fine

The Vs is literally 🚮

Premium brand ducky varmilo wasd durgod leopold

Don't buy gaming brand keyboard

[tame topaz]

Where you getting that 150 from tho

He doesn't mention it anywhere

[bleak owl]

He said osaka

He can order it online

[tame topaz]

Yeah but the 150

[bleak owl]

150usd?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=4322

[tame topaz]

Yeah but he doesn't mention the 150 anywhere

[bleak owl]

Is 60%

150¥?

[tame topaz]

That K70 is already 22k yen, jesus

[bleak owl]

The k70🚮

Corsair keyboards are🚮

[tame topaz]

But yeah

Did you simply suggest the 150 price point

Because he doesn't mention it

idk where you're getting that from

I want Varmilo's deskmats so bad

Too bad there isn't space

Seriously why tf do they look so good

[bleak owl]

I have varmilo keyboard

And artisan keycap

[tame topaz]

High end keyboards are no no for me

Mostly because price

I feel like there's little justification to spend a hundred bucks on one when I can put it into what's inside the PC instead

[bleak owl]

Well

Here s my logic

I use the keyboard like everyde

It's the same logic as buying a expesive

[tame topaz]

An expensive wut

[maiden plume]

monitor

keyboards, mice and monitors are an investment

buy a good one and you dont have to buy anothher for 5-10 years

[tame topaz]

[maiden plume]

[tame topaz]

Just like how expensive Japanese rice cookers are an investment?

Alright

[maiden plume]

if it fits it sits i say

[valid acorn]

is ergonomic keyboard good for gaming?

[bleak owl]

Get a wrist pad for keyboard

[maiden plume]

^true

[valid acorn]

I asked that when I came over to this design

[maiden plume]

I feel that if you want an ergo keyboard it would be better to have two seperate ones but thats just me.

[bleak owl]

dunno tbh

only used normal keyboard

[maiden plume]

And by separate ones I mean something like these.

[bleak owl]

[maiden plume]

There are also "gamery" ones from razer etc

[gloomy tinsel]

@bleak owl corsair tx550m 80 plus gold

[bleak owl]

the tx is good

is a new build

or a used build?

[gloomy tinsel]

and what is the difference on Power supply with gold,bronze or titanium things?

it's new

[bleak owl]

get a 2060 super then

[maiden plume]

cleaner energy= less power draw, more efficiency

[bleak owl]

1070 is a old gpu

i mean its still ok

but better a new gpu

[gloomy tinsel]

How about the AMD Gpu it can save money?

[maiden plume]

higher end psus= more OC head room and better capacitors too

[tame topaz]

@gloomy tinsel AMD is kinda meh for the price

might as well don't

How much is the 1070?

[gloomy tinsel]

around 300 Usd for new

300 to 400

[tame topaz]

Get a 2060 Super for 400 bucks

[gloomy tinsel]

that's new?

[tame topaz]

Yes

[gloomy tinsel]

That's a pretty good upgrade from ddr5 to ddr6

Just adding a bit more

Money

I'm going for it

[tame topaz]

[gloomy tinsel]

But that's not going to bottle neck the Ryzen 5 3600?

[maiden plume]

i mean 2060 is like a 1070 but +8-10% performance, cant you just OC 1070 and call it a day?

[tame topaz]

As for 2060S vs 5700 XT, see this vid
https://youtu.be/oej2ev3g-sM

Also no it's absolutely not gonna bottleneck

[bleak owl]

ehm

amd gpus have driver problems rn

but probably will be fixed in the near future

[gloomy tinsel]

So the 5700 is a bit stronger but 2060 is more optimized?

[bleak owl]

they are the same

[tame topaz]

AMD FineWine is kinda a bygone era now

[bleak owl]

but 5700 is cheaper

[tame topaz]

and really your choice depends on what games you play

[bleak owl]

and has no rtx

[maiden plume]

and what rez

[tame topaz]

Yeah, resolution matters too

[maiden plume]

i mean its 80-90% still on 1080p

[gloomy tinsel]

I don't play game thats very heavy

[bleak owl]

[tame topaz]

Now I'm trying to figure out why Division 2 is running kinda like shit

[bleak owl]

and whats the purpose of the pc

[tame topaz]

Maybe because I haven't turned on DX12 yet

[maiden plume]

must be the coding xD

wait thats ubisoft though?

[bleak owl]

@tame topaz bad optimization

[gloomy tinsel]

Usually play CSGO,Wows,Wot, sometime MH world, and The heaviest game I had is MH world and RE2 Remake

[tame topaz]

Yes, that too

[maiden plume]

well MH world would mostly be more CPU intensive i think?

[bleak owl]

mh world is not heavy???

u smoking some weird drug

[maiden plume]

more cpu than gpu, kinda like world of warcraft

imean my PoS 880m can still handle it at 1440p

then again its on custom vbios so it wont be a PoS

[bleak owl]

speak human language pls

[maiden plume]

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh yea I forgot to put monitor in the list

[tame topaz]

What resolution then?

[gloomy tinsel]

1440

I'm not going 4K gaming because it's going to be hard for the hardware

[tame topaz]

1440 eh

[gloomy tinsel]

maybe the 1920×1440 is just good for me

wait that's 2K?

[maiden plume]

yup

Didnt even know there was a 1920 x 1440 monitor. Usually you could fiddle with that in the settings but its normally 2560 x 1440

[gloomy tinsel]

the curved screen is borderless type?

[tame topaz]

Wdym

[maiden plume]

Bezels maybe?

[gloomy tinsel]

I was thinking about that but I just realized it was different

[maiden plume]

Its sad pcpartpicker doesnt have a jp site 😦

[gloomy tinsel]

[bleak owl]

well

2k?

are u sure?

[severe falcon]

Going by the industry definition of monitor sizes for _K, 1920x1080 is 2K

Because idiots came up with it

[gloomy tinsel]

[stone wave]

I say ultrawide is the way to go.
Left is 3440x1440, right is 2560x1080.
1080 ultrawide (UWFHD) isn't too expensive and if you want a higher refresh rate it's not that bad either.

[vagrant holly]

i have a 2560x1080 monitor and it goes up to 144hz stock, 160hz OC

[stone wave]

nice

my main display is 120hz OC

[vagrant holly]

it's legit the first "high end" monitor i ever owned

[stone wave]

but that's cause i was strict with what I wanted (UWQHD, IPS display, over 100hz, GSync)

[vagrant holly]

didn't even know monitors could be that smooth

ye mine is g sync too

https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-34UC89G-B-ultrawide-monitor

i got this

it actually broke after 2 weeks, got it repaired under warranty and all is right as rain now

[stone wave]

Mine is the Dell Alienware AW3418DW

Yours is higher spec'd than mine

but mine is a bit old

[vagrant holly]

they look about the same

[stone wave]

$200 USD difference

but yours is higher refresh reate

*rate

difference is mine being more expensive

[vagrant holly]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/710z63KEKYL._AC_SL1500_.jpg if anything that looks like it'll take alot of desk space

slick design tho

[subtle hawk]

damn tim with the arknights whaling

[subtle hawk]

[stone wave]

mine are mounted on spring arms

so it takes up a lot less desk space

[vagrant holly]

big nerd over here

oh dam you got the ice ball from the top

that's neat

[stone wave]

once you mount your shit to the desk or the wall you never go back to peasant ass monitor stands

its like going ultrawide

[vagrant holly]

i got my window behind my monitor

so wall mounting isn't an option for me

[stone wave]

i got a window too but i never open it

[bleak owl]

Secondary monitor is 1080p?

[stone wave]

oh im renting so wall mount isnt an option for me either

2560x1080

[bleak owl]

I should use the secondary monitor just like you

multitasking

[stone wave]

1080p monitors are cheap used if you're after one

at least here in the US, if you know where to look that is

[vagrant holly]

https://www.amazon.it/Asus-VG248QE-Gaming-Monitor-1920x1080/dp/B00B19T7QC

that's a decent 1080p

[bleak owl]

Lol no

That's trash

Color saturation is shit

On that monitor

[stone wave]

How about the updated version of my main display: https://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Curved-NVIDIA-Edgelight-Monitor/dp/B07YLGH9Q5

fucking 1g

I "only" paid 860 USD for my AW3418DW

[bleak owl]

Alienware is not cheap

[stone wave]

nah it isnt but i hear the color accuracy is rather spot on

[vagrant holly]

do you want cheap or color accuracy?

good luck getting both

[bleak owl]

Aim for some aoc lol

[stone wave]

TN vs VA vs IPS

here we go bois

[bleak owl]

@stone wave
I know

[vagrant holly]

aoc bezel less monitors

[stone wave]

i dont give a shit about bezels personally

[bleak owl]

[vagrant holly]

they look so sick tho

[stone wave]

shit speaking of which i wish they'd add top and bottom bezels to fucking phones

like some tiny ass shit just so they can add front facing speakers to phones again

and just slide the front camera there

and i don't accidentally touch shit with my palm

[vagrant holly]

PREACH

I HATE WHEN MY PALM RANDOMLY OPENS UP SHIT

[stone wave]

S10+ I love you but how tf am I suppose to hold your ass

[bleak owl]

[stone wave]

I didn't have internet for half of Feb, and I had to use my phone.

[bleak owl]

Nice setup anyway

[stone wave]

I was like holy shit the ergo is kinda shit for phones.

ty, just an Ikea desk

Gerton table top, Alex drawer and 2 legs

[vagrant holly]

ikea desks are all you need

[bleak owl]

[stone wave]

Sucker is nice though, $100 for the table top but it's beech wood, none of that veneer shit.

[vagrant holly]

nice

[stone wave]

Problem is you gotta treat it so if you want something totally maintenance free I'd look elsewhere.

Also is that Texas?

[bleak owl]

no

Random kemomimi

[stone wave]

also holy mother of desktop icons

(texas qt)

[bleak owl]

Pramanix is cuter

[stone wave]

but yeah at my previous place i was stuck with a shitty Office Depot particle board table that I never bothered to get rid of

so this time around I went out of the way to get a more workable desk setup

[gloomy tinsel]

You guys use 2 monitors

[stone wave]

Yeah easier multi-tasking.

[bleak owl]

ah well it took like 1 year to build this setup

[stone wave]

Or if you play Tarkov like all my friends you can look up the map while you play.

[bleak owl]

@gloomy tinselofc

Multitasking

Multitasking is important

[stone wave]

I don't have anywhere for my desktop lol.

All that color matching down the drain lmao.

I could get a shelf or something for it later

but im lazy rn

[bleak owl]

U have a ups

[stone wave]

Since I still need to organize my kitchen

Yeah, I've only ever had it kick in due to a blackout once.

[bleak owl]

I have too

I had some blackouts during summer

But the problem was the washing machine

Now we changed it so no more blackouts

[stone wave]

I burnt out a power supply a few years back cause of bad power

[bleak owl]

Which ups u have?

[stone wave]

Err APC something

I think it's the 850w one

[bleak owl]

I have a powerwalker

[stone wave]

https://www.amazon.com/APC-Sinewave-Battery-Protector-BR1350MS/dp/B0779QFRRT/

it keeps my computer, main monitor and 2 2-bay NAS running for ~30 minutes at near idle usage

and my desktop is only ever on when i'm home

[gloomy tinsel]

AOC CQ32G1 Monitor is quite good?

[stone wave]

I hear the AOC stuff is good bang for your buck

[gloomy tinsel]

I was surprised with it's 144hz

refresh rate

[bleak owl]

Yea

[vagrant holly]

1440p 144 hz VA

[stone wave]

Does the PowerWalker UPS have PC connectivity?

[vagrant holly]

free sync

[bleak owl]

Isn't 32' too big?

[vagrant holly]

never too big

[stone wave]

34" is a nice size IMO

but it eats up all your desk space

[bleak owl]

[gloomy tinsel]

there is also size for it

[vagrant holly]

that's the point

[bleak owl]

@stone wavewydm with pc connectivity?

27' it's fine for me

[stone wave]

err mine has a cable that connects to my computer and software

[vagrant holly]

surround me with skyrim

[bleak owl]

Ah yes

It can power the pc and secondary monitor for 5 min

[gloomy tinsel]

If I don't have big desk space should I hang it on the wall?

[bleak owl]

Yes

[stone wave]

only if you know how to drill the holes properly

you have to install the mount on studs

[bleak owl]

U need to have a big pp for this

[gloomy tinsel]

I was thinking about the equipment that you can move it forward and backward

[stone wave]

You have to know how to find the studs in your wall and drill through the dry wall (or whatever wall) and through into the stud.

Oh yeah, those work too.

All mountable monitors use the same VESA standard.

TVs too.

A stand that sits on the ground might take up a lot of ground space though.

Since it has to act as a counterweight to the monitor.

[gloomy tinsel]

oh wait wth did I googled

This is just going to RIP my arm since there is no arm rest

[stone wave]

Yeah that's not really ideal.

The sort that clamp to the desk are ideal in my personal opinion.

A wall mount is really only viable if you own the place you're at and know how to find the wall stud to drill into.

[gloomy tinsel]

that means I'm going to change the layout in my room for those?

[stone wave]

Those as in?

[gloomy tinsel]

but desk clamp I don't think that is safe enough

[bleak owl]

@gloomy tinsel wait u from Japan right?

[stone wave]

it's fine I have a heavy monitor on mine

[gloomy tinsel]

Yea

[bleak owl]

akihabara has some cool pc builds

[stone wave]

my monitor is like 25 lbs / 11.3 kg

[gloomy tinsel]

[vagrant holly]

[stone wave]

The only issue is with gas spring arm mounts, you have to check if it's rated for the weight of your monitor

[bleak owl]

Some weird looking Anime custom water cooled build

[stone wave]

if you can drill a hole in your desk you can mount it in the hole

but the clamp mount is far simpler

you know how some computer desks have a grommet for cables, you can mount a monitor through one of those holes if you have the right type of mount

[bleak owl]

And that Pic u send is cursed

The monitor isn't even connected to the pc

[gloomy tinsel]

About that I must consult with my dad where I want to put holes in, I decide to use the wall mount

[stone wave]

Ok, but be sure you're not randomly drilling holes into the wall otherwise the mount and monitor will fall right out as most walls themselves are not load bearing.

[bleak owl]

[stone wave]

And if you rent or lease the money to patch the holes will come out of your security deposit.

Just a heads up.

[bleak owl]

I think use the normal stand will be more practical

[gloomy tinsel]

my house isn't rent

[stone wave]

Have you seen the fucking stand for my Dell monitor

I could kill TWO motherfuckers with that thing.

[bleak owl]

kill the table

[stone wave]

look at the size of the fucking stand

also it's all metal

so it's gonna scratch my table

[bleak owl]

Well at least u have ur father helping u with the setup

[gloomy tinsel]

[bleak owl]

I literary build my setup on my own

[stone wave]

i had to drag all my shit over and do it myself as well

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh yea and the wifi is in the living room

[stone wave]

like 100lbs of Ikea shit that I had to man handle

[bleak owl]

Oh

Buy a adapter

[stone wave]

yeah im in a different room than my modem/router

[bleak owl]

Or a mobo with wifi

[stone wave]

it ain't pretty

[bleak owl]

I have the modem right behind my pc

[gloomy tinsel]

[bleak owl]

[stone wave]

thats a wifi range extender with ethernet out that has a network switch plugged into it

[bleak owl]

[stone wave]

also i bought a better range extender cause the one i have sucks ass

[bleak owl]

Mithikx is a mad man

Changed my mind

[gloomy tinsel]

But anyone feels the 1gb/s wifi isn't actually running at 1gb/s but around 600-700mb/s

[stone wave]

it cant take full advantage of my mere 300 mbps connection

and it adds like 100ms ping

[bleak owl]

U have 600-700 mb/S

[stone wave]

but to be fair it cost me like $25 USD

[gloomy tinsel]

yea

[bleak owl]

I'm getting 4 mb/S down and 1mbs up

[gloomy tinsel]

wifi in here is like 20 times faster than cellular data

[bleak owl]

25€

Italian connection

[stone wave]

I'm paying $50 a month + $10 a month modem rental fee for fiber from AT&T.

[bleak owl]

Paying modem aswell

[stone wave]

Could have paid another $20 for gigabit but I don't really have a use for it.

[bleak owl]

At least u have gigabit

[stone wave]

I have a really nice DOCSIS 3.1 cable modem but I'm not using cable cause there isn't any good service here.

[bleak owl]

Fiber here is like shit for what u are paying

And ADSL is a joke

[stone wave]

damn man

not even VDLS2?

[gloomy tinsel]

it got 630mb/s upload speed and 800mb/s download speed

[bleak owl]

What is That

[gloomy tinsel]

I just try on ookla

[stone wave]

VDSL is the DSL that superseded ADSL

[bleak owl]

Well mb cyberius has better wifi connection than mine ( he is living a better zone from mine)

[stone wave]

These were my options. (all need a $10 modem rental fee)

[vagrant holly]

italian internet varies alot depending on were you live ye

[bleak owl]

Rome has gigabit iirc

[stone wave]

Spectrum (cable) has ONE option and that's 200 mbps for $44 a month with a 2-year contract term.

[gloomy tinsel]

If you live in shinjuku like me the lowest internet speed on fiber optics is 100mb/s and the highest is 2gb/s

which actually doesnt run that fast only like 80% of the real speed

[bleak owl]