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like the difference between a 100$ and a 500$ motherboard is just VRMs and extra fluff
the Asus TUF Gaming X570 is a decent choice
or the MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge
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nope
Nope
only thing you might get is the ability sync the RGB effects on all the components of that brand
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they're more or less the same
we need a specific model
unless you are planning to mess with the power limits and the fan curve they perform almost the same
Factory OC can differ very slightly but not by very much
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Oh you're in HK? huh
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@subtle hawk?
970 evo
soon there should be the 980 pro
which is using PCIe 4.0
if you want something akin to that corsair has a PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD
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the pro isn't out yet
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I found a very interesting box
Expensive case
@severe falcon yes they do
Bruh thats the one I bought
It looks good but asus is always into e p i c g a m i n g
wydm with epic gaming
when you switch GPUs and motherboards, do you have to uninstall a couple drivers first before switching to the new parts?
i dont think you have to, but its probably a good idea
@buoyant sapphire ddu
if u swapped from nvidia to amd or viceversa u have to disinstall the driver and install the right one
with ddu
so the driver that I use with my Nvidia GTX 1050 will be fine with an RTX?
yup
https://youtu.be/nV_h6WEVgQU *amd Is bad
Sapphire Pulse Radeon RX 5600 XT 6GB (BIOS update) OC
GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Windforce 6GB OC
intel core i7-8700K
Games: 1440p | Ultra
βΊ 00:01 - Battlefield V
βΊ 01:21 - The Witcher 3
βΊ 02:37 - Metro Exodus
βΊ 03:53 - Need For Speed Heat
βΊ 05:13 - Control
βΊ 0...
Whats best for my Old Galaxy S5? Stay on stock or custom rom?
I did try custom rom before, I didn't like it
It didn't lagged much (nougat) but I get constant irritation from the backlights and clicky noises
Is AMD Radeon RX5700 8GB DDR6 ok?
Bruh i just found some 512mb DDR-333 RAM sticks lmao

the normal purpose of code is that humans can read it
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It's been a while! Back in December 21, 2019, I bought a cheap $20 Dell OptiPlex 760 MT from BOOK-OFF store.
Just recently, on January 31, I got another ThinkPad -- T430.
https://youtu.be/zc3x-HnYKmE
After the failure successor of using HP 15 db-0011dx as a "traveling PC" due to the slow performance by the crappy AMD A6 APU (multitasking is a pain bottleneck including gaming despite the laptop was made in 2018), I decided to make it a replacement with a better PC performa...
That laptop is a replacement for HP 15 laptop db-0011dx due to slow performance despite it's made in 2018 (due to the AMD A6 APU).
Isn't ThinkPad robust?
Yes. Usually ThinkPads are a cult following in terms of durability.
used to
now they're just as sensitive as any laptop
The thing about ThinkPad was about an innovative business solution since IBM days.
At first it was IBM. Then in mid-2005, Lenovo took over with IBM Business Division.

Water is wet
Fuck yea man got the processor
Right when they got more in stock
Hardest part to get because they sell fast
I mean yea
The most popular processor here at least
And they only bring like 3 at a time
Last week they told me by mid february they would have more
I GUESS NOT
Imma touch the pins ill be right back with the results
Which R5 ?
3600
Nice
I was talking to the cashier asking him about the part, he told me they only had Ryzen 9s and I was like βwell shit time to check again next weekβ
New build or upgrade ?
New build
But then some other employee that knew who I was and what I was looking for came by and just bopped the box in front of me
observe
Bend the pins 
That employee is a lifesaver
Because the parts just got in and werent in the system
If it wasnt for him I would have gone back home emptyhanded
How much did it cost ?
120000β‘
Which about 200$ kinda
Maybe a little bit more
Fairly cheap considering where I live so im fine
Yea prices dont change a lot between generations
I got my R5 2600 for the same price before
Mocking up the AMD's slogan because of the crappy AMD A6 APU from an HP laptop from 2018.
Wasn't the A10 that's crap?
Meanwhile amd is a beast in cpu and gpu producer 
and since new YouTube wasn't supported in IE they now say this there
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/536671634334023715/674117769108783104/unknown.png
for price to value ratio? maybe
570/80 >> 1060 6 gb
but yeah no the 5700 xt ainβt winning shit against the 20 or 30xx series cards
What u smooking?
Well the rx5700 is supposed to be in mid tier,wait for the rx5850 then we will see
supposed
it's not a competitive card
considering that nvidia usually has better drivers
I've only heard complaints from radeon drivers
They fixed it
"fixed" it
With the lastest driver update
I'll believe that when I see it
ok
"both part driver suck" you seem to forget when AMD had to release new drivers for every single card they had when just cause 3 came out

yeah the top of the line cards got about 20 fps when it came out
i was running crossfire and they got about 3
@subtle hawk yo wtf is .Net, the internet has completely confused me
@severe falcon wdym
like im looking for jobs and they want a .Net developer but its using C#, i know C# so what is .Net?
like ive heard of it a million times, but it kinda sounds like a fancy compiler more than anything
like how is that different from me running python from the command prompt?
@severe falcon it's similar but not rlly
basically if you take javascript for example
C# is ECMAScript (the standard)
Common Language Runtime is Node.JS (the runtime)
.NET Framework is the JavaScript itself (the application framework library)
basically when someone says .NET the might infer C# and other langs that can use the .NET framework
such as Visual C, C/C++, Visual Basic
so since ive done C, C++, and C#, do i know .Net? or would i have to specifically use it?
but when someone refers to C# they most likely mean the most used implementation of it which is the MS .NET one
technically you do
but there's some very minor details and nuances that you'll understand with experience
ok
speaking of .NET @severe falcon
I need to make a ASP .NET MVC webapp for uni
needs to connect to a DB to perform insert, update, delete tasks as well as have user permission system
sitting here being all
so wtf should I make that's simple and low effort
hehehe, I'm being evil...
I'm calling out my cybersecurity professor in my homework for not changing the default root/toor credentials on his Kali VM the entire semester
@subtle hawk uhhh ive done something similar using node.js on an AWS server doing all that stuff to a mysql database
it wasnt very secure tho cuz we didnt buy the load balancer for HTTPS
also im currently messing with PIL on python and its image kernel system is all sorts of messed up
thats what we did, cuz it was for a social media website
we started with a blank notepad page
but in reality, we shouldve just used firebase cuz its 10x easier
well does the website have to look pretty?
ALSO is ASP like node.js?
it's more like django
can you send html to the client with it?
hmm
cuz thats how ours worked, we just sent it html and javascript based on what the user clicked
ok so where are you stuck, like the design of the webpage?
i mean i have no experience with ASP, but i would start with just getting it to mess with a dummy DB
oh
then use that frontend with the backend
DB comes in last
for user auth and state storage
oh so you need to get the webpage and ASP communicating first?
I know how to do that
but idfk what to build with it
since if it was just user login and insert, update, delete then I could make a to-do app
but naaaaaah it also has to have user permissions
so at least 2 types of users
wait so, you mean you have the freedom to do whatever, as long as it uses ASP messing with a DB?
ye
do both users need to do all of thsoe?
well maybe have 1 type be able to only update, and have the other type be able to do all 3?
call the first type "intern-kun" and call the second "leona", and then have intern-kun have to ask leona to do all the important stuff because he doesnt have permission (and is also too busy on discord)
also ill be gone for like 20 mins, but then i can help after

y-you finally returned from the milk run sobs
anyway
thats how i would structure it
the first user is trusted enough to update, but the 2nd user is the one that can create and delete
sounds like a plan
inb4 actually names the user variables "intern" and "leona"
should be able to bullshit my way out of that
yeah, my entire capstone project was the BS social media site
i would show you, but its been killed
i could show you the travel website i made in the class before tho
it was actually better
some of the image links died tho
but i did the entire frontend HTML, CSS, and Javascript, which i learned on my own that semester
yeah
only the backend
tbh i copy pasted half the code from that one to the capstone one
but it still amazes me that no one has created a way to get the actual physical size of a display on a webapp
security
yeah but still, that would be the most useful thing for desktop and mobile support
ALSO about the PIL kernel thing, it works with greyscale images, but not with color images
so im having to write my own dynamic kernel class
Why do i feel like IOS-XR is a bit easier to configure rather than normal cisco routers
π π π π
Probably the surprising difference of little to no proprietary bullshit
free viruses
Literally every grade school I went to did this, from elementary to high school

How old is aria?
less than 18, mr lolicon
B R U H
19
Ah cool
aria is a fucking fetus
banned

that pun was bad and you should feel bad
@subtle hawk
default gateway not available
adapter reset does nothing
tracert to google gets stuck and wont even time out
Advice pl0x
No like i was using it fine and then it did this
a.k.a the router
Cant access it
But i dont think its the router, cuz usually tracert will just fail instantly
it could be the router
the some service shat the bed
and now you have no connection
Even if i could get into the network room, i have no idea which glowy expensive box is the router
Heres the thing tho, i thought it got its ipv4 address from the router. So why does ipconfig still show one?
It appears to have fixed itself
could be slow ass router
Well its a big company
And that might also be the reason why im getting 60 mbps out of whats supposed to be gigabit
inb4 router is 
Man i wish there were regulations on minimum vs advertised speed
this guy peripherals
split ergodox + kensington trackball, pretty solid setup
pretty curious on what that case is, never seen a small form factor pc like that before
the keyboard is an orthodox the best (imo) 40% split keyboard
the case is the new(ish) velka 5
5.7L the smallest sff case that still supports full-length 2-slot GPUs
absolute pain in the ass to build in, even compared to other sandwich sff cases like the dan a4 and ghost s1
Heβs typing in moon runes
I am sure as hell hoping someone will make a neat GBA SP emulator for the Galaxy Z Flip
Whats special about the gba sp ?
Doesent it uses android ?
@unkempt oxide I did say emulator didn't I
EN strikes again
today i could use probably one of the best pc of my university it had two gtx 980 with Sli.

@tame topaz just edit a layout lol
I'm sure most android emulators allow you to do that
lol
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is that glass directly in front of the fans that need air?
it has side vents
i always question if that restricts airflow or not
cuz can they really pull that much air pressure
cuz i dont like my comp where 4 fans have to pull through a small mesh on the bottom
i want like jetstream airflow
then go buy a jet engine or smth
I have all vents filtered
makes it a breeze to clean the insides
yeah mine are filtered
but i took the top mesh off so heat can escape
also so i can check if the fans are actually working
cuz i was running it with half the fans not working for like months
Nice camera bruh
Blender 2.82 is released and in this video we look at key new features in this release such as the NVIDIA OptiX denoiser, sculpting improvements, multipass rendering in EEVEE, the new fluid and gas simulation engine Mantaflow and much more.
Link:
https://www.gamefromscratch...
BUYING AN RTX 2080 SUPER WASN'T A WASTE OF MONEY AFTER ALL HAHAHAHAHAHHAA
ye, optix was already a thing before it was implemented into blender but you had to pay for it
Would be good if I did 3d stuff
3d stuff is pain
also i like how unity paid a guy to do a sponsored video on a package that unity themselves do not support
basic translation: The 2060 Super you asked for is in stock here if you are still interested
Fuck yea man Build is finished
Now I need to assemble it
Now I can finally play Crosswave in 1080p Ultra 160fps RTX On
you don't meed that much power for crosswave of all things
or at least you shouldn't
it's a giant flat plane of water and a few character models+ some rudimentary ships and occasional islands + particle effects
and it's on unreal
how hard could it be to render? 
I know im just saying
That it would be ironic for the first game I play on this pc would be Crosswave
Crosswave's graphics are hella old, so even a weak gpu can run it

@flint bobcat they arent old, its just that they are made for consoles
I mean, it's PS4, so it is able to run more stronger graphics
yeah the PS4 is 5 almost 6 years old
no, you THINK its graphics heavy
the stuff in crosswave is very much modern level graphics
like the water has physical reflections
its how we know what color nagato's panties are
im not saying its bad
im just saying that console graphics are not nearly as intensive as most PC games, and thats why even potatos can run crosswave
so youre telling me the PS4 can keep up with any PC game at 60 fps?
see thats the thing, released on both
that implies that they made it TO run on both
pc is only good for gaming in the sense that you can do more than gaming on them
and u can use the precision of kb&m
as for most casual gamers a console is plenty
now why havent they made a console where you can plug in a keyboard and mouse
like all of them have USBs
yeah but why
would give you unfair advantage
that's like saying mechanical keyboards are
yeah but if my cheap mouse only gets 1000dpi, while your $90 mouse gets 4000, is that not an unfair advantage?
no
its not?
really?
the ability to flick faster is not an advantage?
and what about TVs?
do you really think there's such trihards on console?
most of them play on whatever TV they have
with the included controller
even pros play on TV and a most sturdy controller so it lasts longer
yeah but im saying what about the size of tvs
and?
and thats not an unfair advantage?
so literally everything that PC players use to get an edge in FPS games is somehow not gonna affect console players in any way?
because PC games do go down the the ms
and even those are only the competitive FPSes
so basically since consoles will never be competitive, its ok to have these different things?
they're competitive but their difference are minimal
where as on PC the change in GPU, CPU, RAM, etc makes a ton of difference
Thats not very RTX of you heh
Wut?
Now probably the hardest part to get
A Display port cable capable of doing 144hz
but tbh i dont even know how display port cables work sooo
The thing is
the one included in the box should do
usually
some cheapo ones don't
you have no idea how frustrating it is to find
it's even worse with HDMI
I got one
But kinda got ripped off
But the other options were a weird chinese company
And wish sooo
Bruh
no Amazon or local store?
None
I mean my local electronics store had some
Oh wait
they wanted to get me to buy the 5 meter one when I needed the 3 meter one
the store is weird
The cable is fine its from a normal company
And now we play the waiting game
Tomorrow maybe they will call me if they finished building the PC
Bruh I wont carry all those parts myself
If I can barely carry the PSU, Motherboard, CPU, RAM and SSD
With the PSU on hand and the rest on my backpack
How tf would I carry a big fucking case
Ill leave it with the pros they build almost every gaming PC in the country and thats just a mild exaggeration
Yea but im in a
not so safe location
I COULD walk and carry the case if they gave me an extra bag
But im an ez target to anyone tbh
Bruh why not open the case and put the stuff in it
Uh
I didnt think about that one
Well it has tempered glass it could break
If I put those heavy boxes in there
Anyways doesnt matter
They are making it
Tomorrow they will call me to pick it up
RTX 2080 Ti Cyberpunk 2077 Edition announced
bought today a new mouse ... my razer basilisk died two days before warranty ends (lucky me)
razer engineer be like: DAM, so close
Missed opportunty to call it RTX 2077
Btw I just saw that my PSU has this type of thingy (dunno the name in english)
thats literally asking to be sued
The thing is I dont have that type in my house
oh wait its the sponsored one lol
@teal shale that's a EU plug
Oh its called a plug right
Thanks mate
still need to buy an adapter bruh
Hope I can get one before I get the PC
The only that makes a gaming mouse expensive is the amount of clicks you can click before it breaks
I thought it was the rgb and the dpi
Soon
Dpi is a major difference
A cheap lil mouse gets like 700 or something, meanwhile the "gaming" mice can get 2000 easy
i think you're messing up your numbers there
700 is slow as fuck 
my mouse can do 16k
my default dpi is 5500
translation: PC is ready to pick up
Fuck yea man
Time to somehow carry that pc to my house in a taxi
Specs ?
@quartz atlas my numbers are from a few years ago, and yes a non-gaming mouse will be slow af. the cheapo dell ones only get 1000
i mean, i've used regular mouse, they sure as hell arent slow
omg, reg mse avg about 1000 
how

and in windows I barely have the sensitivity up
so this isnt all the way up?
nope
i just tried 900 dpi
and i have to move my hand so much to move it across the screen 
well ye
if you mostly use your wrist to move your mouse (which is unhealthy and could give you carpal tunnel) you might need a higher dpi, using your whole arm however, you're not gonna need as much dpi
Its here
Thanks everyone who helped choosing the parts that would go well with it
Btw just set it to 144hz and holy shit the difference is insane
"From what we can see on Twitter at the time of writing, Nvidiaβs competition appears to have achieved the desired effect, with #RTXOn trending with some 283,000 tweets in the UK (currently more than #coronavirus)."
global pandemic 
limited edition GPU themed after your possibly favourite future videogame 
1000 is pretty good for me
my old mouse had a switch that did 1000, 1700, and 2000, which was pretty good when i needed to S P I N
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I like barely having to move my hand I guess 
^ really sensitive mouse
mouse
Higher DPI on FPS games is not about aiming. Its about flick shot/no scopes. If you have time to aim then your opponents are doing something wrong.
Less physical movement, less margin of error, its mostly muscle memory anyways

it's easier to do it with the whole hand
since you can put more force into it
then again you need a big desk
large flicks = entire arm moves mouse
precision flicks = thumb and ring finger move mouse
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U are the One who die first 
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Installed the old 1tb hard drive from my old PC by myself nice
And found in it old games like NFS Most Wanted, Underground 2, FIFA 05, Halo, Counter Strike, Half Life and Star Wars Pod Racer
Now thats Pod Racing! someone had to say it
@quartz atlas https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/
You could just buy a evga g2 850w for future upgrades/sli etc. Their warranty is good too 5-10yrs IIRC
psus confuse me
imma just wait for amphere
fuck the current noise
@subtle hawk do you have hope for intel's upcoming desktop cpus?
Tl:DR donβt cheap out on PSUβs
Also the only answer intel has atm is price cuts and pure gaming performance. Which is good. Should force them to innovate and would benefit consumers. As Iβm me im more excited about Nvdia gen 3 vs big navi IIRC.
i have no faith in amd's gpu space at all, im more excited for intel's gpu honestly
$amd is overhyped and overvalued
imma buy puts on it
u mean gpus
yes, gpus 
ye they gon b π₯
Inc space heater jokes 
amd is space heater
$amd current valuation puts them at $70b compared with Intel's $280b, thats fucked considering intel literally has 10times the revenue of amd in 2019, while operating on a much higher profit margin.
for gpu, my guess is that next gen amd will be able to match 20series performance, and that amphere will leave them in the dust.
Just means that Intel has more time to twiddle its thumbs. Sad but true
nvda killer my arse
Big navi was sadly anti 2080ti, its gonna be overshadowed by big greens 3*** line up.
i mean intel has been making increased earnings and profits despite all the market share claw backs from AMD, theres just no way amd will win in the long term
ye data centers are where the money's at
I predict Intel coming back stronk
They do have the moolah
but imo amphere should deliver much more value for data centers due to 7nm efficiencies, run cooler and less power draw. also, nvda has the cash to literally price cut anyth amd can offer in that space if they want to, just like intel.
they don't have to
They dont have to though
ye, its just an option thats avail for them if things go badly, but i strongly doubt so.
also, i dont think intel gpus will be able to raytrace efficiently 
i just dont see them developing that fast
traditional performance sure
Nice time to build a pc. Just hoping asus would come up with a Rog Matx π¦
live raytracing is a fad anyway
Im still on 2014 hardware. Still salty Nvdia killed voltage tweaks on vbios.
currently it might be, but with both next gen consoles supporting raytracing, it would not be far off to assume most AAA titles from this year on will include raytracing in some form.
im running 4th gen i7mobile
and gtx980m 
imma tryna build a desktop sometime this year.
Im on i7-3940xm on mobile and 4820k @4.8 on pc xD
Want to build but dont need too atm.
my monitor will literally be the most expensive component
and i'll be going for hardline water cooling, for my first build 
im ready to die
ye, monitors are easy to future proof
So its not a bad choice. Its like investing in camera lenses not bodies
Btw did anybody recently buy Metro Exodus on steam? Also did you guys see that Starcraft Ghost βleakβ lol!
is this in USD wtf 
Shouldnβt that be at 1.2-1.4k?
Same but its out now on steam. Finished it but bought it again xD
Gonna ranger hardcore. It runs smoother than the pirated one though.
its 4k local 
@.@
Gsync alone adds like 150-200USD
I feel that 1440p is still where its at atm
Shouldnt that be 7680x1080?
they're not set up in surround
Hope youβre not on anything above 22-23β or you might be counting pixels
200 @flint bobcat
B r u h moment
and ye its 1440p
@flint bobcat i can but i dont want to
it doesnt make any sense at all
Wait what 4k for a 1440p?
Oh, i was thinking βjust slap a predator logo on itβ lol
@flint bobcat u rmb since that time i lamented about losing a few thousand from trying to save a share transfer fee of $150?
i was so angry with myself that i took a small sum out and bought some options
and im up 500% so far 
so im getting a nice tidy budget for my build
the irony is that im making mad tendies off nvda calls
shit I read that as Tiddy gutterminds 

nvidia literally funding my pc build and more 
Clevebae first pc build
Watercool it 
Custom or aio @quartz atlas?
I mean if youβre going balls to the wall then... If not...
custom hardline
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that sony one?
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Sigh... If only Noctua made more colors either than puke brown and black + orange
Thats a cooler though? I should have said 120mm fan XD
Or even better
wtf
Them air flows doe
The thermosiphon
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Just add two more fans for push pull and shes ready for lift off lol!
@maiden plume this is the deepcool assassin III, can beat a noctua cooler easily
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holy
Yeah I know, i was talking about the 120mm fans. Still noctua is competitive, the new corsair one on the otherhand. Not sure
Fish dont fly
bruh

im getting a nice tidy budget for my build
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3 years ago, i bought tsla shares, he bought tsla calls. he's now a millionaire while i only doubled my tsla holdings

Rog PSU bruh
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That one with oled screen
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good deal no? 
For OS?
Then again 1TB for os alone is
Hynix cheap
βMediaβ I like that
games
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or spce
yes
but spce is dodgy
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what will i do with those
Crysys 3
seems like its just running on momentum

u buy them, wait for them to go up in value, and then sell them
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you dont need a lot. a couple hundred is fine. but dont play options if you dont have the risk appetite. only invest $ that you're willing to throw away.


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Stocks rise and fall though so know when to sell
Why
oh look 
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I have 50β¬
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Ready to buy Russian ships skin

i mean, if you wanna gamble with no $, u can always short sell 
Norton here we come!
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but i wont touch shorting with a plug pole
shorting literally has unlimited losses if you dont limit, so fuck that shit
i know ur saying all this stuff, but im most likely gonna forget it

pain in the butt tbh to invest in stocks
i just wanna live a comfortable life

Part time jobs help though. I mean I built my first pc while I was at Uni. Then again that was OZ
im only comfortable thanks to my investments, if not i'd be bankrupt as fuck right now
i mean, i can build pcs, configure windows server environments / active directory, set security specifications in local security policy
etc etc
set up virtual machines
normal IT stuff
well my class is doing red team vs blue team at the end of the semester
U can hack my computer for example

well the ethical hacking class in next semester
im doing cyber security rn
protectin
the class im in is associated with the department of defense and NSA
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nothing haha
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i mean
Make it into a NAS
My old one is collecting dust
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The problem is
well if u want a media server, you can use PLEX
Digital age friendo
How many hdd do u have
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Let your fingers do the talking

how big
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i just plug in an external hard drive to my router 

easy media server 
Laugh in raspberry
until someone breaks into your router and sends illegal stuff into that HDD


why would i care 
also why would anyone do that? 
Jamming
Fun and games- hacks into router, censors all media
Aria confirmed as a hacker
send illegal stuff into my hdd full of weeb shit

i mean, im going into penetration testing
How deep?

Banned
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I mean in dept details lol

Jesus mate

well getting contracts by companies and asking me to break into their systems
security audits
That's
i break into their systems -> tell them -> they fix it
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Ah like those criminals getting paid if they crack firewalls and stuff type of deal
Except you guys dobt get paid and are legit
i mean, unless they are hired, they arent criminals
That's Mr robot 
Student life π¦
Depends on the times mate
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all my classes are, read the textbook and labs
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like 5% of class is theoretical
you read textbook at home, you do hands on during class
its a really good way
homework
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Sell it
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Why sell it? Use it till it breaks lol.
Boomers don't use computer 
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that sounds ok
It worth like
Is the psu modular?
300 bucks?
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Yeah just Nas that puppy or give to the oldies for MS word
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go check
my pc wasnt modular but still sold it for $900
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I bought a 1000 watt rosewill capstone for 75β¬
Yup
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I remember someone said in his school the most powerful pc has two gtx 970 in sli
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Imac
im surprised these kind of modern pcs are able to host virtual machines such as win16 server

sasuga
Literally with 1k watts I can power 2 pc
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anyone has anything better than the Samsung G9 to rec?
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The thing is too wide. If it was me i would do 1or2 22β in portrait mode and 1 27β-34β as a primary.
Atm im using 1 planar 22β pct2235 and a Rog PG278Q. I dont need anything higher atm but if I do might as well be a 34β or a tv?
A touchscreen in portrait mode is a godsent
I want a wacom though. Want sure, need another 
@wary depot you're actually in hk rn? 
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yo any recommendations for a webcam thats cheap but works well?
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