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gloomy tinsel
Build the disappointment PC
i9-9980XE + Vega FE
subtle hawk
sinful plover
That is a great combo
gloomy tinsel
Hey, I didn't say it wouldn't perform well, I just called it a disappointment
sinful plover
i didn't said anything bad
I am sorry if in anyway offended you
gloomy tinsel
Apparently new R5 1600s are just downclocked 2600 dies (12nm), that is so weird lol
severe falcon
but cant you just overclock it then?
gloomy tinsel
In principle, yeah. The binning is prolly worse tho
flint bobcat
which ry 5 u got 
gloomy tinsel
Me? Old 1600 (14nm)
gloomy tinsel
I am just posting someone else's finding
subtle hawk
Fuckin' wow. 
skrub pc
BSOD caused by wcliwifi.sys
there goes the wifi driver
Not from my Dell Inspiron 620, it's from HP 505B MT desktop PC. The WiFi PCIe driver is usually bought off from eBay.
Also, as of November 2019 Update, the drivers for GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 iGPU is no longer having a driver update from Windows Update.
gloomy tinsel
Either trash the PC or go Linux, that GPU is ancient
subtle hawk
trash the pc
gloomy tinsel
If keeping it, you could make a server I guess
subtle hawk
I still have a spare of GT 710 dGPU, but the problem is that didn't come with the VGA port—only has DVI and HDMI ports. I only have 1 DVI cable, but I'm still using it on my Inspiron 620.
vagrant holly
dvi to hdmi adapters exist 
also dvi to vga
(i'm currently using one with my shitty monitor, gtx 950s don't have vga either)
tame topaz
Holy hecc the new RAZR looks sick
Too bad they had to make compromises with the specs but it still looks awesome nonetheless
gloomy tinsel
The R9 3950X benchmarks are out and it is beautiful
The cores can definitely use more memory bandwidth in some cases and that makes me really excited for TR3000
TR3000 gonna mop the floor
lunar patrol
does anybody here run azur lane in an emulator on linux? I have tried genymotion but it's been very unstable -- my VM has stopped booting and I am unable to create a new one successfully for the 4th time in 2 days
gloomy tinsel
I just use the Android SDK emulator
lunar patrol
does it run okay? it seems like a huge package to pull in just for azur lane, but I'll deal with it if it works okay and there's no other solution
gloomy tinsel
It is a little barebones, but so far it has been bulletproof and runs really well. I haven't actually tested ARM yet but it'll probably be fine
Anbox would be the one to recommend if it wasn't a big alpha potato meme
lunar patrol
yeah i tried anbox years ago and i tried it again a few weeks ago and it still seems like alpha quality
i will try the android sdk emulator then
gloomy tinsel
Running Android x86 in a virtual machine used to work for me, but I suppose it wouldn't really work anymore now that AL doesn't support x86
It ran really slowly anyway
lunar patrol
genymotion handled the ARM translation very well -- it still somehow passed the rendering process on to my GPU and it still ran at 60fps decently consistently (that is when genymotion wasn't shitting itself)
yeah android x86 is an F now
gloomy tinsel
I never was able to get Genymotion running well myself, and since it uses VirtualBox as a backend, I can't really use it anyway. I need a KVM/QEMU backend so that some of my other virtualized stuff can run at the same time
lunar patrol
yeah that would do it. i bought some dedicated server hardware for real VM stuff, so having vbox installed on my desktop wasn't a big issue.
unfortunate there are no better emulators, but i will try out the android sdk one
gloomy tinsel
gloomy tinsel
Intel still has it in laptops, at least for now. We'll have to see what mobile Zen 2 looks like, because mobile Zen+ is not fantastic
lunar patrol
waiting for amd to overtake nvidia any day now on GPUs
gloomy tinsel
Navi is not bad, I have it in my desktop and after :<ing around to get the drivers working on Linux, it performs very well for me
You really need to be using Arch or another bleeding-edge distro for Navi to be a somewhat comfortable experience, because bolting PPA after PPA onto Ubuntu and trying to diagnose any problems that arise from that, is not fun
lunar patrol
amd is still a second-class citizen for deep learning frameworks though, which is rather important for me
<insert "i use arch btw" meme here>
my arch install is absolutely hideous on my desktop after so many yearsof spaghetti -- i really need to reinstall. maybe that will fix my genymotion issue too lmao
gloomy tinsel
lol
I have Manjaro unstable on here
Btw @lunar patrol you can bootstrap just the emulator part of the Android SDK via scripting, which is nice
gloomy tinsel
@lunar patrol ARM images on Google SDK emulator seem to be a bit borked for me, but they do run. Haven't tested AL in them but am also trying Genymotion to see if it works. Which, it seems to be
@lunar patrol Genymotion does work for me, so it not-working for you is probably your Arch install :P
Or the image you're using for Genymotion being broken
Now that said, I am not able to hit 60 FPS on Genymotion with the ARM translation
Seems to be more like 30, with frame drops
gloomy tinsel
Nope nvm, after letting it settle in, it's running well
lunar patrol
@gloomy tinsel aight that's good to hear. I figured genymotion was probably broken because of my spaghetti install. Guess it's finally the motivation i need to wipe the slate clean and reinstall now that I have a working knowledge of linux
subtle hawk
@stone wave Ever try BOX whites?
stone wave
nope
but i think you can buy an Anne Pro 2 with box whites easily if you're in the US
subtle hawk
ah
For my next board I’m deciding between a complicated white alps Omnikey or a box white board
~~tbh the bid on this omnikey will probably go above $100 while the box white board’s price is at least “certain”
knotty oxide
Now, with x86 gone, to play at work I just remotely connect to my home pc with Nox on Windows. Not the most optimal solution, but the easiest one for me.
subtle hawk
For some odd reason, the x86 version of Windows 10 are still there for some reason, in case if you want to run older versions of the software when are in 16-bit.
gloomy tinsel
DOSBox is close to perfect
stone wave
Apple Bop if there's ever any need for proof that I hate money... Drop got more 1800 kits for that Matt3o keycap set when I went to go check just now...
gloomy tinsel
Tbf "x86" is often used to refer to x86-32, and the context is obvious here :P
But I agree that it is very imprecise
gloomy tinsel
I use x86 to refer to the entire family
And for the family members I use
"x86-32" or "i386" for 32-bit
"x86-64" or "AMD64" for 64-bit
stone wave
Instructions unclear, can I run AL on my Cyrix 6x86?
subtle hawk
revy wants to look cool using make target architecture names
@stone wave can I get keycaps like this
gloomy tinsel
I'm just used to seeing them, since I first became acquainted with the idea when downloading Linux ISOs
So yes I am a hipster
stone wave
Check Tai-hao keycaps
subtle hawk
specifically one color for certain keys, not the entire set
subtle hawk
yeah
stone wave
unless that set is a specific colorway
subtle hawk
yes
stone wave
blank keys are dirt cheap so if you dont actually need or care for legends that's an option
subtle hawk
yeah I'll probably get blank keys
stone wave
as long as you're going for OEM/Cherry profile and stay away from a manufacturer like GMK the cost shouldn't be too much
gloomy tinsel
@subtle hawk speaking of make target architectures, have you noticed that Debian's x86-32 ISOs are labeled i386 but actually target i586
subtle hawk
tfw your keyboard is not cherry
stone wave
I only recommend Taihao cause they make keys in a whole bunch of colors
subtle hawk
probably when I get a new keyboard
my current one is G413 which means Logitech's own switch
there's only 2 valid targets for the linux kernel
i386 and x86_64
stone wave
i dont like those gaming keyboards because most of them have non-standard bottom rows
gloomy tinsel
Linux itself dropped the actual i386 processor
subtle hawk
all the architectures
yeah mine looks like a bit offsetted
supported by the linux kernel
gloomy tinsel
@subtle hawk
lunar patrol
i386/i686 superior terminology gang rise up
subtle hawk
is ia64 itanium
gloomy tinsel
AMD laptop CPUs are fine and perform well for their cost, but expect somewhat lesser battery life. This may change with the Ryzen 4000 mobile CPUs
Source: I have a Ryzen 7 2700U in my lappy and it performs great, but battery life is atrocious. The Ryzen 3000 (Zen+) mobile chips are an improvement from what I heard
If battery life is of limited or no concern, then AMD absolutely worth 🦊
subtle hawk
@stone wave ... bro
stone wave
subtle hawk
yeah
and SA caps
thankfully the vintage keyboard hole isn’t as deep as the keycap hole and thankfully i’m only in the former
bc at least with old keyboards you can usually barter or restore some pretty bad condition ones if you have enough time
stone wave
SA Penumbra from Signature Plastics was my dream set for a while.
But... I ain't made of money.
Maxkey SA is pretty reasonable, around $100 not counting shipping. But they're dye sub ABS
the drop set I got isn't SA but it's a high profile, and dye subbed PBT
subtle hawk
SAs can get pretty expensive, that’s why I’ve already told myself that I’m fully content with regular dye subbed PBT or regular doubleshot ABS usually
I work but I’m also a full time student so I still don’t work enough to be able to comfortably splurge on keycaps
Also... might go ahead and go for the box white route since I feel like this white alps omnikey is going to reach a hefty bid threshold pretty soon
subtle hawk
The pictures with the listing make it look like it’s clean but.. not sure how clean
even slightly dirty alps feel like crap
and cleaning them all individually is a pain lol
at least you don’t have to desolder unlike cherry
stone wave
If you're in the US and don't mind rocking a 60% Newegg has the Anne Pro 2 in Box Whites for around $75
subtle hawk
I am indeed in the US
Hmm not normally a fan of 60% the smallest I’ll get is usually TKL
or compact like the vortex
i need those fn keys
What caps do the anne pro 2 have?
stone wave
some sort of pbt
could try and find a kit i suppose
but yeah i went 75 cause i like having arrowkeys and F keys
A basic TKL like the XD87 is like $70 (without switches)
subtle hawk
I would still want 100%
I don't even know how someone could live with something as crippled as 40% 
stone wave
I'm using a Model M right now at home and it kinda takes up a shit ton of space.
subtle hawk
maybe I use old programs and emulators too much
stone wave
Prior I used either a TKL or 60% with a separate numpad off to the side
subtle hawk
ah
stone wave
cause the numpad is really on there if i ever need to crunch numbers
subtle hawk
yeah that sounds nice
I rarely use numpad too unless the programs want it or I'm in Thai layout and wanted to type Arabic numbers
stone wave
ive been trying to find a good wireless mechanical numpad
subtle hawk
so basically get mechanical TKL and cheap numpad? 
stone wave
its like impossible unless it's some group buy thing
im in the process of switching from my Model M
ordered a 75%
rather than a TKL
stone wave
it's more or less just TKL but squished down a bit
subtle hawk
also wow $155 for just a board and base?
stone wave
it's fully programmable so I can do whatever I want with the key placement
It's not that bad compared to some of the stuff out there
subtle hawk
nice
stone wave
CNC'd aluminum case and plate, programmable PCB, USB C
if you ditch the case that's probably $30 right then and there
subtle hawk
man, you made me want to buy a new keyboard even though I have no actual reasons for it yet
subtle hawk
😆
gloomy tinsel
My keyboard is a meme Turtle Beach 60%
It isn't good, but it is acceptable enough for me to not feel compelled to replace it
subtle hawk
yeah figured I'll just save my money on figures
stone wave
Turtle Beach is a weird name for a gaming peripheral company.
subtle hawk
my current one is still good enough
it's just that I didn't know it had linear switches one and it was better
stone wave
I'm mainly getting an entirely new keyboard so I have something to house some Kailh Box Navy switches.
These are basically the loudest most tactile things I've seen on the market.
gloomy tinsel
I have MX Blues, clicky clicky
subtle hawk
mine is brown equivalent
gloomy tinsel
Nah I would probably piss myself off if I went too much louder than these
subtle hawk
flashbacks to when my brother plays osu everyday on his blue switches
stone wave
the box navy is the one towards the left in the clear housing
the middle one is a MX Blue
subtle hawk
tfw missed keyboard talk bc of lunch
@subtle hawk I see you’re also into this hellhole hobby
Honestly not a fan of MX blues. I think their click sound is just horribly inferior to other clicky switches
But at least they’re tactile unlike MX brown
My favourite cherry switches are probably well-worn in/lubed reds or vintage/modern lubed mx blacks
mit I’m forgetting again but your model m’s the older square metal badged one right
I’ll buy it off of you if you’re also in the US (I’m in CA)
(mainly bc I still have yet to own an actual working buckling spring board, all of the m’s i’ve owned have needed the damn bolt mod and the m122 needs an rj45 terminal converter)
what hobby
I just wanted a nice keyboard
it's way better than rubber domes
stone granite
same
I have a really nice mech board
and people see it and they're like "oh hey you're a mech board dork too where are your others?"
and I'm just like... no, I don't need more than 1 keyboard especially when I paid 120$ for it thanks
subtle hawk
I would buy a new one only if the old one breaks
stone granite
there is one situation in which I'd get a new one
and it's if I want one to use alongside a laptop in public
since you'd need special switches for that
but still that's far from turning it into a hobby heh
I just like to have the best stuff
"I am a simple man: I am satisfied by the best"
xD
stone wave
if you spend a lot of time using your keyboard, be it games, work or school I'd say get a good one you like.
gloomy tinsel
^
subtle hawk
any kind of keyboard works
I personally have preference towards mechanical
but membrane is also not bad
subtle hawk
A good rubber dome is better than a shitty mechanical
I’ll take a proper dome with slider over Cherry MX Brown
Also fun fact the Model M is considered a membrane layer because of its conductive mechanism underneath the barrel plate
bitch u say?
MX browns are lyf
Oh sorry
I meant MX Sand
gloomy tinsel
MX Sadness
stone wave
Zealios for some feelios
stone wave
tactile feedback for some people, I like them because I can clearly notice the actuation point for the key so i can avoid bottoming out when typing
not every switch is clicky or tactile e.g. red and black switches are linear
modern mechanical keyboards offer a higher degree of customizability
different key layouts, sizes, key feel (switches), key caps and etc
bottoming out means when the actual key cap hits the keyboard itself and won't travel any further
the keypress is registered by the computer before that happens (the actuation point)
yeah it makes a difference if you're spending all day typing
or even just gaming mashing WASD
The most common type of switches today are Cherry MX and their various clones. And these switches usually fall into 3 categories, tactile clicky, tactile bump and linear.
tactile simply means tactile as in you feel it
clicky denotes an audible click
tactile bump is a more muted sound
while linear is none of those
subtle hawk
not like bottoming out a switch does more damage or anything
stone wave
nah, a keyboard is more likely to die due to the plastics in it aging
not a whole lot going on in a keyboard
subtle hawk
exactly
stone wave
its more personal preference
subtle hawk
ppl prefer mechanical bcz of the more pronounced feedback
the rest are just obsessed keyboardmanciacs
stone wave
it's like you can get a cadillac coupe deville that you can steer with your pinky finger and have 0 road feel
or you can get something with a sports suspension and stellar steering that will tenderize your ass meat if you try to do a road trip in it
totally up to you
subtle hawk
I bottom out way too much
I guess that’s why I prefer heavier weighted switches
Never had a problem with MX Blacks or even the heavier Topre
Ok
Caved in
Got the Kailh Box White board
Wasn’t going to barter unsurely for the Omnikey
subtle hawk
This Windows 7 PC was in a state of danger because of nearly end of support, so I put Windows 10 on it. Not my PC, but it's from my grand-uncle but he granted to do the task.
gloomy tinsel
old boi
stone wave
Yeah Apple, I went Box Navy cause I like heavier switches.
Just playing the waiting game
cause shit is shipping from China to the US
iirc actuation and bottom out on them are similar to the MX Blacks
subtle hawk
Oh man
An optiplex
@stone wave Mine’s fulfilled by Amazon so should be here this week
I was thinking about getting Navies actually but I consider Box Whites to still be in that middle ground of “comfortable enough to type/game on”
stone wave
make sure they're the switches with the revised stems
if they're original they need to be shaved down
subtle hawk
Oh I know what you’re talking about
I have a good PBT set for this board so should be fine regardless
ABS & clickies =
stone wave
problem is most SA profile are ABS
partially why i was eyeing that Drop set I ordered last week
cause it was high profile and PBT
but you can't get PBT with double shot, only dye sub to the best of my knowledge
stone granite
hey any mouse nerds?
I'm looking at getting a new mouse
my razer deathadder from like 2012 is starting to kick the bucket lol
valid acorn
I'm using the Armageddon Mikoyan Foxbat-III. (Kevlar-13)
Costs about MYR65 (convert it yourself)
stone granite
rn I'm looking at the g305
I've got a bunch of very high capacity rechargeable batteries so a mouse that uses AAs sounds like a good idea to me
and then I want it to be white, and the g305 comes in white, and my hands are small and supposedly it's small
subtle hawk
those are never good
get something with a built in battery
those usually last a lot longer
stone granite
what's an example of a mouse with a good built in battery
subtle hawk
any of logitech's mice
they have a good sensor and good battery life
as well as a good wireless module if you get the gaming ones
stone granite
well they advertize their g703 as lasting 32 hours
soooo
that's not what I'd describe as good battery life
stone granite
g703 has a 750mah lipo
subtle hawk
the good mice use a high frequency module
stone granite
I have 2600mah AAs
subtle hawk
so that chugs a lot of power
subtle hawk
if you so desire to use removable batteries be my guest
but don't complain about bad connectivity
comes part of the course
stone granite
what does connectivity have to do with AAs
subtle hawk
usually mice that need AAs have very shitty wireless modules
stone granite
g305 has the same sensor as g703
subtle hawk
some even use bluetooth
stone granite
did you not read
stone granite
huuuuuh ok
subtle hawk
it's you who's not reading
stone granite
dw I'm checking to see if they have the same wireless module
subtle hawk
a wireless mouse is characterized by 3 things
the sensor, the battery life and the wireless module
stone granite
yeah they have the same wireless module
stone granite
both advertized as "LIGHTSPEED Wireless" with a 1ms polling rate
subtle hawk
it uses a different RFIC
should work for ya as long as you position the receiver somewhere close to the mousepad area
and by close I mean max 10 cm away
stone granite
does it matter if there's any obstructions within those 10 cm
subtle hawk
as s rule of thumb yes
the lightspeed communication protocol is high throughput
so any obstacle can cause interference or glitches in mouse action registration
stone granite
I see
I keep reading about grip styles n shit
I have tried mice that I haven't liked the feel of
and I'd assume this is why
but I've never used a mouse of this shape
subtle hawk
I can tell you from my own experience that lightspeed wireless is very sensitive to interference
that's why my receiver sits right in front of my mousepad
subtle hawk
claw
stone granite
alright and ppl say g305 is for claw grip so I should be good to go?
and the reason I'm interested in wireless is because my cable is all kinked and gets caught on shit and I'm just tired of that
so I'd effectively be using the wireless mouse like it's a wired mouse anyway
flint bobcat
This Sparks joy
onyx tendon
subtle hawk
also the MS virtual assistant
valid acorn
Samsung killed its S Voice. Replaces with Bixby
subtle hawk
man
I can't get dropbox to work on both linux and windows
linux version only supports ext4 and literally crashes on link
and I rarely log in to windows but I still want to access it there without installing ext4 driver
and if I install on both windows and linux and sync to its own folder it goes over free plan's 3 devices limit 😠
at this point I just wish google made backup and sync for linux
quartz tide
Can someone explain me what vulkan do ?
subtle hawk
it's basically modern opengl replacement
quartz tide
@subtle hawk can it help increase game fps ?
subtle hawk
depends
gloomy tinsel
It can, but games have to be written to support it
Vulkan competes with Microsoft's DirectX 12 and Apple's Metal
quartz tide
So i wonder if it helps my r6 fps, my friend said it will support vulkan at next update
gloomy tinsel
That's a maybe. It depends on some factors. For example, it depends partly on how well your GPU and its drivers support Vulkan.
quartz tide
My spec
I3 5005u
Nvidia 930m
8gb ram
gloomy tinsel
Well, Vulkan will not help you very much with specs like that, because your specs are very low
quartz tide
quartz tide
I change it to 3:2 and fxaa i can get smooth gameplay, but yeah its still has low fps but i got smooth gameplay than default settings
20-30 perhaps
Default was totally shuttering
gloomy tinsel
So yeah, I don't think you can go a lot higher than what you currently have. Vulkan is helpful, but it is not a cure for a computer that just is not good for gaming
And if I remember right, the Nvidia 900 series wasn't great at DirectX 12 and Vulkan
quartz tide
My friends said it because the cpu
gloomy tinsel
Your GPU is quite weak too, though
quartz tide
Really ? But they said its still decent(not great) for r6
gloomy tinsel
Not really, it is very far below the recommended GPU for R6
In the end, the most effective thing to do is to upgrade your whole laptop
Or buy/build a gaming desktop
subtle hawk
My grand-uncle bought this yesterday from Best Buy for his desktop PC. He prefer low-end since he just only do basic stuff.
gloomy tinsel
How much did he spend? The RX 5500 series is coming out soon, I would have waited
subtle hawk
$80.
gloomy tinsel
Noooo
Should have at least bought an RX 460 on eBay for $65 and gotten a big performance boost
subtle hawk
Nah… he doesn't do online shopping either.
gloomy tinsel
Bluntly, an RX 550 for $80 is blind, daylight robbery
RX 570 can be had for $90-110 (more than 2x as fast)
subtle hawk
Later on, I'll install it onto his existing Inspiron 570 that was recently got a clean installation of Windows 10 Pro, departing from Windows 7 due to near EOL.
gloomy tinsel
stone sequoia
Did I get the formula right?
subtle hawk
Success—the RX 550 exactly fits inside onto his Dell Inspiron 570! Got rid of the USB 3.0 PCIe card and DVD drive due to the biggest GPU size.
gloomy tinsel
Tbh I hope OneAPI works out because CUDA needs a kick in the balls
We srsly need something to compete with Nvidia in this space
subtle hawk
subtle hawk
Radeon 550 looks quite not bad… at least.
flint bobcat
Win 10 pro 
subtle hawk
Now here his current specs after the improvements:
BEFORE
• AMD Athlon II X2 245 @ 2.9 GHz
• 4 GB DDR3 (4×1 GB DDR3-1333)
• 500 GB HDD 7200rpm
• Integrated ATI Radeon HD 4200
• Windows 7 Home Premium
• DVD-RAM drive
• 2WIRE USB Wireless Adapter
• USB 3.0 PCIe card
AFTER
• AMD Athlon II X2 245 @ 2.9 GHz
• 4 GB DDR3 (4×1 GB DDR3-1333)
• 240 GB SanDisk SSD (system) + 500 GB Western Digital HDD 7200rpm (secondary)
• AMD Radeon RX 550 – 2 GB GDDR5 VRAM (XFX Pine Group)
• Windows 10 Pro – Version 1909
• No optical drives
• Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8260 (ASUS, Bluetooth capable)
flint bobcat
@subtle hawk DDR3?
subtle hawk
Yes, because his desktop is from 2010.
flint bobcat
severe falcon
Im still running ddr3, and i have 16 12 gb
subtle hawk
Same here for my Dell Inspiron 620. Currently I have 6 GB.
gloomy tinsel
That is basically what I predicted was the case, but still. Bad on Roku for not making their networking related stuff more robust.
flint bobcat
gloomy tinsel
How about no
gloomy tinsel
The 6850K train left the station when Ryzen hit the market, good luck selling that for anywhere near its original price
subtle hawk
Is that a laptop?
gloomy tinsel
No, the i7-6850K is a desktop CPU. 6 cores and 12 threads, it is comparable in performance to a Ryzen 5 1600 or 2600
It was considered a high end part, once
Then AMD was like "lol have more cores" and launched Ryzen. Now we have a core war, and the price per core has dropped so much
subtle hawk
How about buying a workstation-class desktop PCs? Usually they are running Xeon CPUs.
gloomy tinsel
Because previous-generation Ryzen chips are so cheap now, it's harder to consider old Xeons imo. You lose a bunch of efficiency while not saving as much money as used to be the case
You can get a Ryzen 5 1600 for $80 at Microcenter
Depends on the market you're in, to be fair
In some countries, the prices are wack
subtle hawk
wdym
vagrant holly
better to go for a 2nd gen, not much more expensive
subtle hawk
all ryzen chips use AM4
subtle hawk
ye the 1st gen chipsets are pay respecc
valid acorn
Anyone wants these?
gloomy tinsel
Tempting but I have no need
Do any of them have adaptive sync? (FreeSync or G-Sync)
quartz atlas
unkempt oxide
this programm is kinda funny i have a red death lazzer 
unkempt oxide
I would never spend more than 300 for monitor but i have not that much money anyways 
valid acorn
@gloomy tinsel idk, I just took a picture and its not on showcase
flint bobcat
looks at mith
stone wave
oem/cherry pbts aren't that expensive are they?
subtle hawk
This is a dye subbed GMK PBT set for $60-70(?)
hm
one is fucked up hobby and another is less 🤔
stone wave
could just go for some generic PBTs
subtle hawk
But
These are weeb keycaps
to go with the box white board
oh wait I thought you were referring to the actual gunpla
subtle hawk
you ppl should collect figures or smth
vagrant holly
the qled has freesync i think
idk which model that is but i was about to buy one for my new rig and it sounded cool on paper
1 ms response time, 144 Hz refresh rate and 32:9 aspect ration
but then you realize there are very few games that actually can make use of that 32:9 aspect ration so really you have the aspect ratio for productivity more than anything
but then if you look at productivity, the resolution of the screen is 3840x1080 and that 1080 really doesn't work in its favor, the pixels get stretched so if you work as a graphic designer, it isn't very good for you
subtle hawk
32:9 is woke for a dev
vagrant holly
ye i guess it's good for a dev
they did make an updated version with a higher res
i'll look it up
subtle hawk
I myself have 3 displays side by side with a 4th one on top of the middle one
valid acorn
And that's why it's worth every penny
vagrant holly
that's the updated version
they probably listened to the complaints of the res being too low for image quality and came up with that
it's quite a bit more expensive but if you want the gaming experience, that's what you would go with
as for graphics design, as far as i remember it isn't an ips panel, i think it was VA
subtle hawk
gayming
subtle hawk
tell that to devs
vagrant holly
alright alright
vagrant holly
ye i know, back when i worked at a university and we had a guy working on coding every now and then and he had a dedicated monitor he would just mount vertically
valid acorn
My friend asked me what is the widest monitor currently on the market
valid acorn
I thought its 51"
vagrant holly
i think it's the one i linked
it's 1.2 metres wide
there is an alternative from ROG apparently
same width
lower res than the one i linked, also the specification are the same as the 1080p version of the super ultrawide from samsung, but the samsung one is cheaper
ROG is just asus' excuse to raise prices
valid acorn
Is it? Didn't notice that haha
gloomy tinsel
I have 4K panel
And my 16:10 1200p
Mixing DPI on X11 is interesting - not because you can't do it, but because of the xrandr crap lol
gloomy tinsel
Tiny cube of reserve parts
gloomy tinsel
Apple!
subtle hawk
Revy why do you have three server towers
gloomy tinsel
Server towers? They're just old PCs that are sitting on a shelf
Ranging from Celeron D to Core 2 Quad
Not powered on or anything
severe falcon
that tower is cursed
well blursed
blessed for smolness, cursed for that power brick sticking out of it like a tumor
gloomy tinsel
That is part of the case design @severe falcon, the power supply mounting pokes out the rear to acommodate longer PSUs
Case: Cooler Master Elite 110
severe falcon
i mean regardless of it being a feature, it still looks like Smolcomp has a tumor
gloomy tinsel
It does, yes
Specs on the pooter:
CPU: Athlon X4 950
Mobo: Biostar X370GTN
GPU: 750 Ti
That Athlon is Bristol Ridge
So I could upgrade this to Ryzen
obtuse dawn
Well, that's one way to protect against potential hacking... Just full-stop disallow the use of ;, <, and >. Wonder why they do that as opposed to input sanitization on the backend...
gloomy tinsel
Lol probably a very lazy and/or very bad programmer
I'm reminded of a hazardous piece of code I saw posted to Reddit that literally called sudo adduser <username> without sanitization
subtle hawk
@obtuse dawn it's called character escaping
obtuse dawn
Well, it was an application to Twitter University (job and internship hunting, apparently you're supposed to have already started for next summer)
So... I could tweet about it
Yeah, I've seen bits of malicious attacks, cybersecurity courses go over injection attacks. And strangely, I can use the period key.
stone wave
full on Kailh Box Navy switches, so tactile...
Also holy shit IDK why I didn't go with this form factor earlier, pretty much the same foot print as a 60% but with a 1u row on the top and to the right, but I retain arrow keys and function keys.
subtle hawk
Oh nice, it came in
subtle hawk
Huh those stabilizers look like mini MX Blacks haha
I think my box white board is coming on Friday
Should probably buy the caps
stone wave
they're gmk screw in stabilizers
subtle hawk
subtle hawk
Come to think of it
I’ll take dye subbed/doubleshot PBT over even the best SA caps
But that’s just my preference
I think I just don’t like seeing shine lol
stone wave
you can kinda notice the shine pretty easily
the caps are R1 Ashen so they're old, like mid-2017
so old they got the infamous SHIF T legends
stone wave
as you can tell i make a lot of typing mistakes
well not really but its just the most used of the dark grey keys
i have another maxkey set that's black with black doubleshot legends
and the space bar on that thing got fucked
so bad that I just ended up sanding it with sandpaper
subtle hawk
speaking of spacebars
My friend’s had the same Topre Realforce for like a decade(?) now and he managed to shine the spacebar
I’m like, didn’t know you could shine PBT
subtle hawk
they are, usually because of molding
and proneness to warpage
But Topre spacebars are PBT iirc
As well as some really old boards
stone wave
spacebars are bad for me because of how i rest my thumbs on them
my thumbnails make contact with the space bar
subtle hawk
This is how I usually rest my hand
(not accurate)
thumb is well past the edge of the spacebar
stone wave
i just sort of end up hitting the spacebar with the edge of my thumbnail
cause i notice wear spots where my thumbs are
ah well the key cap set meant for this board is PBT so it shouldnt be as bad
subtle hawk
You say that now and then you start slowly chipping away at the PBT
stone wave
cause my Model M is just fine
subtle hawk
stone wave
these box switches are nice, far less "rattle" than buckling springs
stone wave
my box navys have an extra t h i c c click bar so they also have a noticeable sound
but it's far more crisp
but they also have a higher bottom out than buckling springs from what i can tell
box whites are far more reasonable
lmao
subtle hawk
what i like about the clicky boxes is that their click isn't rattly or scratchy at all
at least from what i've heard
compared to mx/gateron/outemu blues
click jacket 
stone wave
supposedly they're water resistant
but im not putting that to the test
considering its like 40 bucks of switches to outfit this board
not counting shipping
subtle hawk
well
yes and no
it's more dust resistant
given the shape of the slider
but definitely not dustproof
certainly not waterproof, maybe water resistant in a sense with the caps on
and maybe like light rain
subtle hawk
I don't understand why people buy those used big and loud stuff for their personal multicore workstation 
I was convinced that server hardwares are more configurable
gloomy tinsel
@subtle hawk you mean like, buying an old decommissioned server to use as a workstation?
subtle hawk
yeah
gloomy tinsel
Yeah those are loud. Far as I know, they aren't really designed to have silent modes, since they operate in datacenters, and noise levels there are less important.
Also, I feel like people underestimate how big these servers are. Not even a whole rack, just one individual server.
subtle hawk
they're no longer than a single U
gloomy tinsel
Yeah, but the length of a single U can vary. I handled a server recently that's close to 70cm long
gloomy tinsel
Oof
valid acorn
Wot
flint bobcat
@tidal grove whats up
tidal grove
Do u know about linked lists
nvm
tidal grove
Whats up
subtle hawk
just send it in class right now but i’ll see
tidal grove
it's about using a linked list
to create a menu
to add/delete/display/modify/search and display one node
i got like 30 mins left on this
so im panicing
subtle hawk
include iostream, include conio.h, include stdlib.h
class Node, use public nodes
void add/delete/display/modify/search
void list create + if/else
rinse and repeat
wait sorry that doesn’t help at all does it
tidal grove
no
do u wanna see my program
well i have everything set
but for some fucking reason
my professor doesn't want me to put a value
inside the node
just the &head for the node
subtle hawk
Codeblock it
tidal grove
also
im not allowed to use class
or public/private
cus apparently that makes it too "easy" for him
ffs
subtle hawk
???
wait then
why are you making a list
without classes
err
what’s the point
tidal grove
I DON'T FUCKING KNOW
do you want to see it
im rushing to fix the menu to only show ID
and hopefully he doesn't grade on all that wasted space for value
subtle hawk
Please do
tidal grove
node *createNode(int ID, int value){
node *newone = new node;
newone->ID = ID;
newone->value = value;
newone->next = NULL;
return newone;
}
void addNode(node *&head, int ID, int value){
node *temp = createNode(ID, value);
temp->next = head;
head = temp;
}
void updateNode(node *&head, int ID){
node *temp = head;
while (temp != NULL){
if (temp->ID == ID){
temp->value = ID;
return;
}
temp = temp->next;
}
cout << "Id does not exist" << endl;
}
void searchNode(node *head, int ID){
node *temp = head;
while (temp != NULL){
if (temp->ID == ID){
cout << "The value of the node is " << temp->value << endl;
return;
}
temp = temp->next;
}
cout << "ERROR: A node with ID '" << ID << "' does not exist!" << endl;
}
void deleteNode(node *&head, int ID){
if (head->ID == ID){
int value = head->value;
head = head->next;
cout << "A node <" << ID << "," << value << "> is deleted." << endl;
return;
}
else{
node *temp = head;
node *prev = NULL;
while (temp != NULL){
if (temp->ID == ID){
int value = temp->value;
prev->next = temp->next;
cout << "A node <" << ID << "," << value << "> is deleted." << endl;
return;
}
prev = temp;
temp = temp->next;
}
}
cout << "ERROR: A node with ID '" << ID << "' does not exist!" << endl;
}
void displayList(node *head){
if (head == NULL){
cout << "ERROR: List is empty!!" << endl;
return;
}
cout << "List nodes:" << endl;
node *temp = head;
while (temp != NULL){
cout << "<" << temp->ID << ", " << temp->value << ">" << endl;
temp = temp->next;
}
}
@subtle hawk
those are just functions
i have to call the values back too
but he doesn't want values
which is why im so tilted
and he wants it sorted by number of ID
subtle hawk
uhh
can you
just declare a new operator that propagates the nodelist
this would be so much easier if
you could use values
tidal grove
im not sure what you mean
subtle hawk
what the heck, linkedlist?
stone wave
noice
subtle hawk
D u c k y
u
c
k
y
stone wave
stone wave
MT3 profile is interesting.
MT3 vs Maxkey SA
MT3 vs IBM Model M (whatever this profile is called)
subtle hawk
gotta be SA for me
model M is uniform, not really a layout
since the staggering ergo comes from the barrel plate
stone wave
I couldnt find any other OEM profiles on hand
And didn't want to scour my storage for some.
Cause all I got are some Varmillo PBT OEM things.
How do you like the Box Whites?
The MT3 caps I got, are interesting, they're a little shorter than SA, R2 and R3 are far more concaved on MT3, they feel like the homing keys do on SA. And the MT3 homing keys are concave as all fuck, so they hug your fingertips.
subtle hawk
@stone wave Sorry for the late reply, but I’m probably not going to try this board out until I have more free time
Need to take care of a crapload of things at work rn before I can even think of swapping my current board out
also I need to wait for those keycaps
stone wave
GL with finding those caps.
Also no worries, I've just been doing housework all day.
stone wave
https://drop.com/buy/winmix-sa-chalk-dye-subbed-keycap-set?utm_source=linkshare&referer=B6X3JM
dye subbed PBT with SA profile if you're not too particular about the colorway @subtle hawk, ships in February though
stone wave
Yeah I was eyeing their 9009 set, but that one is like 85 bucks before shipping off of KBD.
subtle hawk
imagine spending half the price of a keyboard on keycaps
subtle hawk
imagine judging ppl by their key switch choice
subtle hawk
Got a new headset the other day but didn’t really have a proper place to rest it so I bought a styrofoam head
gloomy tinsel
I have good headphones so I didn't bother with a headset, I just got a desk mic
Also
@subtle hawk
subtle hawk
My desktop tower's sound interface recently failed and I didn't want to get a sound card
I considered going the headphones + external mic route but since my front & rear jacks weren't working...
So I have to go the USB codec route
@gloomy tinsel
tbh I would've gone the headphones/external mic route if I didn't recently buy another keyboard
gloomy tinsel
f
stone wave
My mic goes through USB.
And when I switched over to passive speakers I bought one of those Chinese DAC/AMPs rather than just a regular AMP, so my audio also goes through USB.
gloomy tinsel
I have a cheapo USB DAC for my headphones, and my mic is also USB
I don't really use speakers for audio quality atm, so I just use my monitor built-in speakers
stone wave
I think most reasonably good quality desk mics go through USB now a days.
subtle hawk
Right now my only choice for audio is USB
gloomy tinsel
I don't even have a "reasonably good quality desk mic", I have an $11 thing I got from Amazon. Still USB
gloomy tinsel
Nah I don't like people hearing my voice
stone wave
Just don't get one of those shitty USB dongles with 3.5mm out.
I tried one and holy shit it introduces so much noise.
just get a cheapo Chinese DAC if you really want 3.5mm out for active speakers.
If you want speakers that is.
stone wave
Not my favorite colorway if I'm honest.
You could hold off until you have cash to spare and buy a different colored set by Winmix or something.
subtle hawk
need to go back to saving before I start dipping into my “saving savings” and not my regular savings for random crap
stone wave
its the grey/beige with a few reddish and greenish keys
nah they dont do the windows key any more
subtle hawk
tbh my favorite set is probably still gmk oblivion
tame topaz
Linus fucking shredded Intel to bits, and rightfully so. https://youtu.be/vuaiqcjf0bs
silent vine
anyone here knows the fix for nox having no sound in discord stream?
wary depot
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gloomy tinsel
Intel messed up back when they tried to be too ambitious with their 10nm node, and the effects of that are still rippling. As far as course correction goes, these roadmaps are like freight trains. It could take years for them to get that train back on track.
subtle hawk
I like how u all are like everyone is a shill of one or the other like there's no expert but yourself in this
just saying
gloomy tinsel
I'm not shilling anything or claiming to be an expert, I know I'm biased. P: And I know Intel is in no danger of dying out
subtle hawk
it's kind of like the so called "anime experts" that throw out big words and harsh critics
when in reality the majority of them know how to animate or write a story
since such harsh critics blow wind out of your sails as a creator
from the more deeper leaks of intel roadmaps and their past corporate decisions I can definitely see Intel coming back with something they've been sitting on for a while
with Xe being just the start
gloomy tinsel
Xe looks interesting, and I'm rooting for Intel there, because Nvidia has a monopoly over the GPU compute market and I see that as unhealthy. Imo the Green team needs a kick in the balls
subtle hawk
just like team blue needed one
gloomy tinsel
Ye
subtle hawk
those new Intel chips will be hella expensive when they come out
since that new tech is very young
AMD is also trying to do it
but they've only managed the chiplet design
gloomy tinsel
I also hope Intel's oneAPI sees wider adoption outside of Intel itself
Having additional players in the space could be the stimulus the market needs
subtle hawk
lowkey AMD should just give RTG to intel
since RTG has been bleeding AMD money for a while now
and most of the RTG staff is already in the intel graphics division
gloomy tinsel
I'm a little hesitant to say that, since Navi is doing well for now, and the last time that happened (AMD sold Imageon to Qualcomm), that ultimately helped contribute to a huge monopoly for Qualcomm
gloomy tinsel
Navi going into upcoming Playstation should help a lot, as well
I kinda want to say that Navi being used in Stadia helps too, but we all know that Stadia is a meme
subtle hawk
I've tried the 5700 XT
and the architecture idea is great
but the implementation falls short
not to mention radeon drivers are a meme
gloomy tinsel
To be fair, Navi is a hybrid architecture, and a number of instructions aren't properly optimized yet
So we could see a proper RDNA implementation soon-ish. As I see it, Navi is more like a beta for full RDNA
gloomy tinsel
Considering its status, then, Navi is actually surprisingly very good imo
subtle hawk
as well as improve their damn drivers
gloomy tinsel
Windows drivers for Radeon are lol
Linux drivers for GCN have been pretty good for a while now, tho. But Navi Linux drivers are still pretty memeful (source: Have 5700XT)
subtle hawk
ye
gloomy tinsel
I have to disable sdma for now because the GPU likes to hang with it enabled
LOL
Rip performance
subtle hawk
as I said
AMD drivers are meme
nvidia while proprietary are p good
on both linux and windows
gloomy tinsel
I had RX 460 before, and that was great
AMD to its credit had good GCN Linux drivers
subtle hawk
well the RX 460 had time to mature
plenty of time
considering that the OSS community has to improve them
gloomy tinsel
Nvidia prop drivers on Linux are veeery mixed in my experience, they like to catch fire periodically
In my experience
subtle hawk
that's what I find scummy in the AMD strategy
gloomy tinsel
Also, Wayland on Nvidia is rage lol
subtle hawk
leverage the "but our drive is open source" to outsource the development to OSS contributors
gloomy tinsel
To be fair, we all know how Catalyst turned out on Linux. AMD probably doesn't have the manpower to do it themselves
subtle hawk
well ye considering that most key personnel already jumped ship
be it to nvidia or to intel
gloomy tinsel
Catalyst on Linux was just bad bad bad
subtle hawk
implying on windows was any better
gloomy tinsel
Well, it was :P
Technically
subtle hawk
you were lucky if it opened
let alone let u change a setting without crashing or hanging
well most of my nvidia drivers for linux were quadro or tesla drivers
and those are 👌
gloomy tinsel
The GeForce drivers are quite mixed in my experience, they can perform well when they do, but can have ridiculous regressions
Context: I had a 750 Ti before. One day, I updated and the performance regression was so bad, the desktop lagged. Forget games
And there would be random problems like, "monitors don't wake from sleep"
subtle hawk
well geforce drivers are derived from the quadro ones
so there migh be some instability
gloomy tinsel
As silly as AMD's driver strategy can be, I prefer it in the long run, since upstreaming into Linux is preferable
and long-term helps avoid regressions of this type
Short-term, it's more "lol what is happening'
subtle hawk
well to be fair nvidia isn't focusing on normal rendering
in their linux drivers
it's more of cross rendering, ray tracing, TENSOR and CUDA
gloomy tinsel
They aren't, but that is a valid use case and not just me being a hipster, Linux workstations are a thing
subtle hawk
like if u want lots of VFX rendered in a movie
you bet it's gonna be on a 20 GPU server
not some bitch tier GTX or RTX cards
gloomy tinsel
Yah, I know. I had that 750 Ti in a server for a while after retiring it from desktop, and never had any problems
Just noting that Linux desktop/workstation usage is not going away, and normal rendering is still important
subtle hawk
ppl be suprised that ray tracing has been a thing since VIA made GPUs
gloomy tinsel
It is old tech, lol
subtle hawk
yeah
gloomy tinsel
It just wasn't done real time
gloomy tinsel
Agreed, not worth your money because a few years from now, things will be awesomer
subtle hawk
not that far away from having true VR
and that will require a radical shift in graphics and rendering technology
expecting half life alyx to push VR into the corporate eye so that we finally get some progress in that field
I'll yeet the index off my friend to play it 
gloomy tinsel
You know, despite its driver problems, I still really like the 5700 XT and I'm looking forward to seeing all the optimizations needed to really make it shine. The full potential of this card is definitely not yet realized
gloomy tinsel
But from RDNA, there is plenty to gain
subtle hawk
the next gen of navi should be spicy
inb4 AMD is keeping those to try to nuke Xe out of the water
real big brain hours
subtle hawk
hey
that's what I would do
and then nvidia is like "so yeah guys remember ampere?"
and pull another 1080 Ti
seriously my 1080 Ti is such a beast for the MSRP
gloomy tinsel
Real talk though, I expect a surprise hit from Xe, seeing that Intel has all the staff needed to make it happen. That, plus full RDNA being unleashed, should help put pressure on Nvidia
gloomy tinsel
Well, we know Nvidia will strike back, we all are like "where is 7nm Nvidia?"
The question is just how hard the strike is
subtle hawk
history has shown that if we put pressure on nvidia it blows back twice or thrice as hard
gloomy tinsel
Well, we know Nvidia is on top of the hill, probably with a bunch of boulders waiting to roll down at people
That's why we need someone to give them a good shove lol
subtle hawk
the 10 series was that blowback when AMD put pressure with the RXes and intel with their Iris Pro graphics
gloomy tinsel
Nvidia is sitting alone up there and it can use its position to kinda sit back and bully people around
subtle hawk
it's still by far the best series released by nvidia
that and they're not intel to slouch
gloomy tinsel
We really need at least one of the upcoming GPU launches to be a big smash hit, in order to actually make Nvidia stumble
vagrant holly
RTX actually is a big deal, shame nvidia doesn't know how to explain what ray tracing is without coming off as those scammy telemarket ads
they were lucky tech youtubers picked on it and explained it themselves to the community
this thread ripper launch is the funniest shit tho
i love how intel is just shitting the bed at every turn trying to plug the holes
subtle hawk
RTX just like RDNA is in beta
vagrant holly
ye, early infos says their 30 series will have improved rtx features
subtle hawk
well duuh
RTX also flopped bcz idiot devs have as usual no fuking idea how to use it properly
vagrant holly
they also said they would look into making it cheaper
subtle hawk
"yeah reflections and shit, let's add that"
vagrant holly
ye that's wise
subtle hawk
overhyping things has always fallen short of its goal
F76, No man's sky, star citizen, the first watch dogs
to mention a few
and ofc intel is now shitting the bed
bcz their big thing is still not ready
and AMD is already eating up most of their income sources
vagrant holly
black friday and cyber monday are also happening
gloomy tinsel
Intel's 10nm issues are just a ghost that keeps haunting them :3
vagrant holly
people are upgrading their PCs NOW
subtle hawk
well it's bcz intel is focusing on on architecture shrinking
gloomy tinsel
Intel prolly won't have 10nm really going until mid 2020 or early 2021
vagrant holly
and the vast majority of those people won't be building a new one for another 5 years or so
subtle hawk
but implementing the next step in microprocessor design
gloomy tinsel
Sunny Cove looks interesting and strong, but I have my questions about its competitiveness with Zen 3 and Zen 4
Which it will likely have to compete with
By the time Intel has big Sunny Cove chips rolling, AMD should have at least Zen 3 ready to go
subtle hawk
I'm not expecting intel to recover for aleast 2 years on CPU side
gloomy tinsel
Same
subtle hawk
LUUUUUL
gloomy tinsel
Why is that a LUUUUUL lol, I said as such earlier
And you were like "I like how u all apparently experts"
:3
gloomy tinsel
I think I understand Yamato a bit better now, it's not that he's argumentative by nature. It's just that he reeeeally hates when people make broad and inexact statements without backing them up properly 🦊
subtle hawk
on the intel charts u have most of them blurring out the TR3 measurements
gloomy tinsel
LOL
gloomy tinsel
TR3 is a known variable, basically. We know it will trash Intel HEDT
compact cloud
new threadripper "rips" ||(ha)|| it apart
vagrant holly
ye linus did a whole rant before getting down to showing the charts for intel
