#technology | Azur Lane Official | Page 66

severe falcon Sep 16, 2019, 7:32 PM

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Yeah thats why i said old amd

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Even my fx6300 is only rated for 70

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Also did you guys know that azur lane can do the half app thing on android?

gloomy tinsel Sep 16, 2019, 7:34 PM

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Yep

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But I forgot about it

severe falcon Sep 16, 2019, 7:35 PM

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I just wish it kept running when it lost focus

gloomy tinsel Sep 16, 2019, 7:35 PM

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It does tho

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At least it does for me

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Are you on Android 10?

austere jasper Sep 16, 2019, 7:36 PM

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what phone do you have? android 9 cant do that at least on samsung

gloomy tinsel Sep 16, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Pixel 3a

austere jasper Sep 16, 2019, 7:36 PM

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ahh your the android 10 one

gloomy tinsel Sep 16, 2019, 7:36 PM

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Yep

austere jasper Sep 16, 2019, 7:37 PM

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nice thing that they fixed this

severe falcon Sep 16, 2019, 7:47 PM

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I am on android 7

pulsar saddle Sep 16, 2019, 7:49 PM

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if you mean split screen, then MIUI 9 can do that already

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also on Android 7

subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 1:35 AM

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except most of its system apps has ads built-in 😒

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that thing aside it's a really nice ui

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and yeah I can run 2 apps simultaneously since like the last version

flint bobcat Sep 17, 2019, 2:45 AM

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wait a minute Thinkpitz

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subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 2:49 AM

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7th or 8th gen?

valid acorn Sep 17, 2019, 2:59 AM

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Could 8th gen

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 3:00 AM

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subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 3:00 AM

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what is this

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a console in web browser? Thinkpitz

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 3:08 AM

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yes

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bgp is bloody as hell

severe falcon Sep 17, 2019, 3:16 AM

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wtf are those

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valid acorn Sep 17, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Nice one, Microsoft

severe falcon Sep 17, 2019, 3:18 AM

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that was unity telling me to do that

valid acorn Sep 17, 2019, 3:19 AM

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ThinkZed

subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 4:03 AM

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that's because you should have most updates installed

flint bobcat Sep 17, 2019, 4:23 AM

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i see how you meant, arch is fully customizable

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cause, i installed it, and had no browsers or terminals from plasma KDE

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MutsukiHyperStare

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 4:34 AM

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IT IS TIME

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to make nexus 9000 work on emulator

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subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 4:50 AM

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@violet nexus is this secure

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or is this just a lab

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EntyHeh

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 4:50 AM

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just lab only

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@subtle hawk do you know where could I find NXOS 3000 for eve-ng ?

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NXOS 9K cant be handled by my current laptop

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Mikasapped

subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 4:51 AM

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let me get back to you on that

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i think i have some images

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OWARIDA

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 4:51 AM

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NICE

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it stuck on this 😦

subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 4:52 AM

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@flint bobcat yeah, its live cd is very bare bones

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and base installation is just enough to boot into terminal

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~~that's why I went with pre-packaged manjaro on my pc because I'm too lazy~~

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weakness disgusts me

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 5:19 AM

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@subtle hawk

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im lost ahaha

subtle hawk Sep 17, 2019, 5:27 AM

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try typing ls?

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😆

violet nexus Sep 17, 2019, 5:30 AM

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GWfroggerHyperXD

gloomy tinsel Sep 17, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Bash 4.2

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Well, that's an... older Unix

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 2:26 AM

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im starting to get a gist of bgp

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a little bit

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fuk my VM

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aaaaaa

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MakinaSmug

flint bobcat Sep 18, 2019, 3:19 AM

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Win 7 MutsukiStare

valid acorn Sep 18, 2019, 3:23 AM

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so many pings and notifications

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 3:23 AM

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finally linux is now working

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time to establish web server

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MakinaSmug

subtle hawk Sep 18, 2019, 3:51 AM

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win 7

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someone rlly likes to live dangerously

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end of support next year MakinaSmug

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 4:05 AM

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@subtle hawk company laptop

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🙂

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idk why they didnt give us laptop with win10 yet

subtle hawk Sep 18, 2019, 4:08 AM

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Thonk

valid acorn Sep 18, 2019, 4:18 AM

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~~But you can upgrade it with their permission right?~~

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 4:21 AM

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nu

valid acorn Sep 18, 2019, 4:22 AM

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TaihouScared

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 4:39 AM

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im also kinda pissed on this laptop

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why only 8gb

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should be 16gb

valid acorn Sep 18, 2019, 4:55 AM

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Don't complain much if you got something for free

violet nexus Sep 18, 2019, 5:00 AM

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man my work laptop degrading

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sometimes BSOD

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GWfroggerHyperXD

flint bobcat Sep 18, 2019, 6:11 AM

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@severe falcon is it possible for one thread to stop another thread in python

severe falcon Sep 18, 2019, 6:11 AM

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i have no idea

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ive never done threading in python

flint bobcat Sep 18, 2019, 6:11 AM

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MutsukiHyperStare

severe falcon Sep 18, 2019, 6:11 AM

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but in general, if your threads can communicate with each other, then yes

flint bobcat Sep 18, 2019, 6:12 AM

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ok

subtle hawk Sep 18, 2019, 6:36 AM

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@flint bobcat just do a message passing

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basically what fire said

gloomy tinsel Sep 18, 2019, 12:28 PM

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@violet nexus what's the reason for using Tinycore

gloomy tinsel Sep 18, 2019, 9:04 PM

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https://www.anandtech.com/show/14882/amds-new-280w-64core-rome-cpu-the-epyc-7h12

AMD’s New 280W 64-Core Rome CPU: The EPYC 7H12

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Big pog

elder talon Sep 18, 2019, 11:17 PM

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.-.

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mrw i7 4790k

gloomy tinsel Sep 18, 2019, 11:28 PM

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6 core gang over here

subtle hawk Sep 18, 2019, 11:53 PM

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AMD gang reporting in

gloomy tinsel Sep 18, 2019, 11:55 PM

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1600 🦊

violet nexus Sep 19, 2019, 1:37 AM

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@gloomy tinsel for laboratory purpose

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i would love to try to host a website and then propagate it to multiple networks

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via bgp/mpbgp

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from tier 1 isp to tier 3 isp

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and then distributing it to clients

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also i want to try and see how routing works

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and also tinycore doesn't consume resources

subtle hawk Sep 19, 2019, 3:21 AM

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8086K gang represent

violet nexus Sep 19, 2019, 3:23 AM

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creating WAN setup now yeet

valid acorn Sep 19, 2019, 12:47 PM

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This... this seems fun

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severe falcon Sep 19, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i just had a great idea to make a desktop assistant using a raspberry pi, a tiny screen, and turning it into a holographic AI

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@subtle hawk the future is real

subtle hawk Sep 19, 2019, 6:27 PM

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GWchadThinkeyes

severe falcon Sep 19, 2019, 6:29 PM

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i just need a really bright screen

subtle hawk Sep 19, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Custom Alps board came in

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EntyHeh

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@stone wave @subtle hawk

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Black Alps, PBT doubleshots... board was actually tested/cleaned & refurbed this time EntyLUL

stone wave Sep 19, 2019, 11:31 PM

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Taihao dolch caps?

subtle hawk Sep 19, 2019, 11:33 PM

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yup

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the caps lock is a bit of an enigma though

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usually dell at101s came with a stepped caps lock, regardless of ansi/iso layout

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but as you can see this one's uniform

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it's a bit loose as well, but loose in the sense that these weren't meant for nonstepped caps lock to begin with

violet nexus Sep 20, 2019, 7:36 AM

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that hyperX keyboard

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z35wow

quartz tide Sep 20, 2019, 8:04 AM

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So i got a new headset but if i use spliter at it the audio output were reversed R = L and vice versa, if not the audio output were correct

brave anchor Sep 20, 2019, 2:55 PM

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@stone wave old school technology

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severe falcon Sep 20, 2019, 4:19 PM

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@subtle hawk idea for nimi bot during october, change her icon to carabiniere and rename her to captain nimi

subtle hawk Sep 20, 2019, 7:26 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/165372974415740928/624687452820471828/70443806_2553553341370308_7298199787336105984_n.jpg

flint bobcat Sep 20, 2019, 11:45 PM

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LOL

vagrant holly Sep 21, 2019, 12:18 AM

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

severe falcon Sep 21, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Does anyone know if the rpi4 has some kind of accelerometer?

subtle hawk Sep 21, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I don't have the Raspberry Pi.

subtle hawk Sep 21, 2019, 7:16 PM

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no it doesn't

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why would it

severe falcon Sep 21, 2019, 7:19 PM

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I mean literally everything else is taken from phones

subtle hawk Sep 21, 2019, 7:28 PM

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@severe falcon I'm pretty sure the accelerometer is a different chip in the phone

severe falcon Sep 21, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Yeah but i was just wondering if they put it on there anyway

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Cuz i was thinking about having motion reaction on the desktop waifu hologram

subtle hawk Sep 21, 2019, 7:38 PM

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@unborn flicker looks like LZSS variant

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but it also packs the literal and repeat bits in some kind of model I couldn't figure out

subtle hawk Sep 21, 2019, 9:29 PM

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My Nexus 5X is too laggy to play Azur Lane.

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I mean look at the memory usage.

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stone wave Sep 21, 2019, 10:00 PM

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TBF the N5x is a 3 year old mid-range phone, also I'm amazed you have a working one.

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Since weren't they prone to bootloops.

flint bobcat Sep 22, 2019, 4:13 AM

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GWeebAwaaaaaaaaa

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severe falcon Sep 22, 2019, 4:28 AM

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ah yes

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IPv4

subtle hawk Sep 22, 2019, 5:34 AM

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at least IPv6 removed the variable length header

valid acorn Sep 22, 2019, 5:35 AM

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Nexus Phones huh? Surprised to see it alive

subtle hawk Sep 22, 2019, 2:42 PM

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@valid acorn Yeah, I have it one. It's the predecessor to the Google Pixel.

valid acorn Sep 22, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Uh huh

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I'm surprised to see it alive

subtle hawk Sep 22, 2019, 3:31 PM

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Yeah, it's still in working condition. Formerly by brother used it previously before it got damaged by water, but they finally fixed the water damage a few years ago.

unkempt oxide Sep 23, 2019, 3:43 PM

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DROP DATABASE Brain

valid acorn Sep 23, 2019, 6:34 PM

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severe falcon Sep 23, 2019, 6:43 PM

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So i tried VR for the first time today, i thought i wouldnt need my glasses but OH BOI i was wrong

valid acorn Sep 23, 2019, 6:44 PM

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^ depends on the person, whether they need to where it or not

severe falcon Sep 23, 2019, 6:52 PM

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I mean i can read at that distance without my glasses, meaning the oculus's lenses do weird things

gloomy tinsel Sep 23, 2019, 7:24 PM

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New graphics card later this week hopefully

subtle hawk Sep 23, 2019, 8:25 PM

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So today is the Android day…

stone wave Sep 24, 2019, 12:52 AM

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my first smartphone

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subtle hawk Sep 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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is that a T-Mobile sidekick?

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good lord that's old

stone wave Sep 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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T-Mobile G1

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the same as the phone posted above

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream

subtle hawk Sep 24, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Back in time when QWERTY keyboards are built in for smartphones.

valid acorn Sep 24, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Brings back memories

subtle hawk Sep 24, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Any tech retrospective stories?

valid acorn Sep 24, 2019, 3:47 AM

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~~How about the old Nokia 3310?~~

subtle hawk Sep 24, 2019, 4:09 AM

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We used to have Nokia 3210 for my parents back in 2000, I was 7 years old back then.

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The Composer feature was a nice feature to create your own ringtones.

valid acorn Sep 24, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Reminds me of the old ringtone

violet nexus Sep 24, 2019, 5:00 AM

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Is there anyone whomst familiar with BIND?

subtle hawk Sep 24, 2019, 5:09 AM

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ye

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what about it

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Oh cool I just noticed my board has dampening foam in it

obtuse dawn Sep 24, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Yay, I love it when sample output does the wrong calculations...

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Makes it really great to make sure your code works correctly =/

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Does anyone own a ThinkPad?

flint bobcat Sep 25, 2019, 5:58 AM

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whats the best way to clean mechanical kb such as the k95, and how often should i clean it?

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 6:24 AM

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compressed air

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cleaning cloth

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:21 AM

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whats a good new phone

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:21 AM

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~~iPhone 11 Pro Max~~ depends on your needs

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:21 AM

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good camera good display can play azur lane/gfl

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:22 AM

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New mid-spec budget phones like mine can play AL

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:22 AM

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im looking at just a base samsung s10

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Thinkpitz

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:23 AM

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S10 is high end

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:23 AM

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never said mid end GWahreeVampySmug

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but nothing too expensive like the ultra new ones

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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What's your budget

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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around the base s10 area

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:29 AM

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How about the razer phone 2

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Or the oneplus 7 pro

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Thinkpitz

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the oneplus seems interesting

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no headphone jack

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that would necessitate me to get the bluetooth module

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:44 AM

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or the asus ROG/ROG 2 phone

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:44 AM

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both the razer phone and rog are too gamey for me

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Thinkpitz

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so down to 7 pro vs s10

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:45 AM

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How big do you want the screen to be?

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:47 AM

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not really concerned with that as long it isn't too large

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currently have a lenovo p2, around 5.5"

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so both would be an increase anyways

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:50 AM

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The oneplus 7 pro is 6.7 inch
The S10+ is 6.4 inch

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The S10 is 6.1 inch

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 10:52 AM

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u47Think

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:58 AM

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what a tough decision to make

flint bobcat Sep 25, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Go for s10

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EntyHeh

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Why not oneplus?

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~~or maybe the pixel~~

shadow valley Sep 25, 2019, 11:13 AM

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s10 vs 7pro
your guys thoughts on it

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 11:17 AM

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mind u

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the 7 pro has a wider screen

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so if u have smol hands it's gonna be hard to hold it

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while samsung displays are narrower but taller

tame topaz Sep 25, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Mi Mix Alpha is fucking nutes

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Stupid to the point of borderline amazing

molten junco Sep 25, 2019, 12:51 PM

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LaffeyDrink

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hope it doesn't flop like the galaxy fold

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also 7pro ftw

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oxygen os > one UI anyday

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 12:55 PM

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would recommend 7 pro too

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flagship Samsung phones here has exynos instead of snapdragon LaffeyDrink

tame topaz Sep 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@subtle hawk exynos gang

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 1:02 PM

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I has in the exynos gang, but now I'm back in the Snapdragon gang

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 1:03 PM

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and?

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not like you write kernels or microcode to care what SoC you have under the hood

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same thing with intel and amd

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not a fair comparison

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android is heavily abstracted

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ah

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while on pc programs can be written to use very specific implementations

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TL;DR Silion on mobile devices doesn't matter as much as on laptops/desktops

tame topaz Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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More the matter of performance here tho

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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exactly

tame topaz Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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That's what we're talking about

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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and here exynos and snapdragon SoCs perform marginally the same

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as for the skin

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the choice is up to the individual

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I'm personally more a fan of AOSP/Pixel look and feel

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isn't it region-specific

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but One UI isn't bad too

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not rlly

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it's manufacturer based

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I see

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oneplus uses OxygenOS

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samsung uses one UI

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 1:11 PM

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I heard that the s10/note 10 series devices are the first ones to try the One UI 2.0

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 1:11 PM

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xiaomi uses MIUI

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I'm still on 1.1

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I'll have to check when I get home for the September update

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if I need to buy a new phone I would go for either mi 9 or oneplus 7

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I don't know

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I'm not focused on cameras or gimmicks I rarely use

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my choice boiled down to S10+ 5G or Note 10+

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the latter doesn't have headphone jack

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so you can guess which I chose

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LeanderXD

tame topaz Sep 25, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Flyme has some cool features but wow is it stingy with RAM and permissions and shit

subtle hawk Sep 25, 2019, 1:13 PM

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we have a type c dac now though

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because my brother uses iPad pro

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I use true wireless earbuds but the headphone jack is very handy for that aux cable

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when I dock the phone in my car

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get that gucci sound in

valid acorn Sep 25, 2019, 1:27 PM

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You have your options for your new phone: with or without the jack

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Guys, I just installed Fedora Linux MATE spin.

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Fedora MATE is one of my favorites

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 1:56 AM

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I just installed it on my Toshiba laptop. I'm planning to install Steam for Linux.

obtuse dawn Sep 26, 2019, 3:25 AM

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Fedora MATE is a close second...

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I prefer Ubuntu MATE mainly because dnf is dog slow

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Though eventually I'd like to actually get an Arch install working properly

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I'm a Debian, RHEL, Arch user

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 5:53 PM

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@obtuse dawn I was supposed to install Arch on my Toshiba laptop, but after the install, it won't boot at all via UEFI install. The UEFI firmware setup doesn't have a feature to manage EFI bootloaders.

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But I'm okay with Fedora. The only I need is to install some basic stuff. Quod Libet looks nice as an alternative to Rhythmbox.

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flint bobcat Sep 26, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Arch is tricky, but hella fun to customize

obtuse dawn Sep 26, 2019, 6:44 PM

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I have an old laptop I threw arch onto, and yeah, it's fun to customize

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 6:44 PM

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once i get an RPI 4, im gonna try and throw arch on my RPI 3

flint bobcat Sep 26, 2019, 6:56 PM

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Wait u can add Arch to rpi? MutsukiStare

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 6:57 PM

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i have no idea

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but imma try

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yeah theres Arch|Linux ARM

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Yeah it exists

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There is Fedora ARM too

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For music I like Audacious!

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That's basically why I don't use it and probably never will for a serious system

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I love Arch, but it's too fickle for a main OS

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:07 PM

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well im trying to make like a desktop assistant thing with my rpi, would arch interfere with that or help me?

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Ok fair, I think it's too fickle for a main OS

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Windows is even worse, I'd rather have Arch lol

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Windows Update is one of the shittiest things I have ever seen in an OS

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:12 PM

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tbh my favorite version of windows other than 7 is 8.1 phone version

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it was so good

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:13 PM

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My favorite Windows is actually 9x

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:13 PM

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like honestly i dont think theres a phone OS thats as good as win 8.1

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it was just so easy to get to everything

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:14 PM

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I'm waiting for the Pinephone to ship so I can run a real GNU/Linux on phone

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Android don't count

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:14 PM

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like with my current android phone, i physically cannot turn of mobile data from the drop down

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i have to go through FOUR menus to turn it off

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 PM

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That sounds like a "your phone" issue - I can do that just fine on Android and have been able to for years

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:15 PM

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i mean i physically cant set it to be a button on the drop down

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you cant customize it like that

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but win 8.1 could

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:16 PM

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Yeah but it's there for me

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:16 PM

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yeah but the difference is: with win 8.1 you could just add it on there

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I can add and remove mine, too

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:17 PM

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also the fact that there werent app pages, it was just a single scrolling page

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oh i cant add or remove on mine

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what android version?

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:18 PM

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10

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:18 PM

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ah im on 7

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 7:18 PM

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Granted this feature is newish, but I could still disable mobile data on 7 from dropdown

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So idk what is up with yours

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 7:18 PM

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yeah i dont have that on mine

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i can do everything but that

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including hotspot

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but anyway win 8.1 had scrolling home page and then a right arrow to go to app list and search

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the only problem was the apps on the app store were trash because apparently no one could make apps with the FREE DEV KIT

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and yet i found the greatest homerun derby game made in unity and it was entirely in japanese

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I usually got me here from the ThinkPad SubReddit Discord, but does anyone owning Lenovo/IBM ThinkPads?

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 8:49 PM

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I have owned ThinkPads before, why?

stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Err have an older X1 Carbon

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And I had something like a T30 way back when.

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 9:54 PM

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Inb4 Yamato "5700 XT is an underpowered underperforming card"

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stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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also the drivers aren't as good as nvidia

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Definitely not true on Linux in my experience

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Nvidia used to have the driver advantage here, for sure

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But that was a few years ago

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 10:07 PM

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I would say AMD GPUs are just a no-go -- perhaps only if you cannot afford for Intel and NVIDIA.

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:24 PM

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There seems to be this misconception that AMD is for poor folks 🤔

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 10:24 PM

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AMD is just cheaper, that doesnt mean its worse, especially if you compare them

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I would never touch an Intel CPU in 2019, they're overpriced and the performance is no better

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 10:25 PM

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twin ATI cards made in 2010 beating brand new 980s sure makes AMD look good

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:33 PM

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Warframe devs acknowledging Wine? Nice.

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stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 10:34 PM

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yeah but a 980 is outdated

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:34 PM

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Yeah but so are the ATI cards from 2010

stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 10:36 PM

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is multi gpu support wide spread enough to warrant considering it in 2019?

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:36 PM

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You generally get some kind of performance boost even now, it depends on what your uses are of course. There are people I've talked to who are experienced and say different things about it

stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 10:36 PM

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i'd rather get the best single card you can budget for rather than 2 cards and pray it works out

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Nvidia makes good products, but they're not infallible. The RTX line is definitely not better for my uses

stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 10:38 PM

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rn I'd still take an nvidia card over an AMD card but I'd take a R9 over an i9 CPU any day

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not that I'd upgrade any time soon

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:11 PM

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A must-have Linux dock.

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gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Agree that Plank's the best one

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Yup, it's a must-have dock for MATE users.

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Most of the other docks kinda seemingly died out, anyway

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or the settings UIs look like they came from the 90s

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:16 PM

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Docky was used to be the best dock for Linux before Plank was developed.

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Well, Plank is a fork of Docky

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Still looking for Twitter client for Linux, but it seems they are dying out due to API changes.

stone wave Sep 26, 2019, 11:19 PM

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yeah don't they limit the number of people per API license or some shit

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 11:21 PM

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I'm kinda-sorta using Discord webhooks as my Twitter client, in conjunction with IFTTT

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:27 PM

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Just installed CoreBird, and oddly it still works.

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 11:37 PM

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also about the multi-GPU thing, its a bad idea to go for it, less and less games are utilizing it

subtle hawk Sep 26, 2019, 11:56 PM

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My GPU doesn't support SLI though.

severe falcon Sep 26, 2019, 11:57 PM

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then nothing changes

gloomy tinsel Sep 26, 2019, 11:58 PM

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My board doesn't support multiple GPUs, it's ITX. Unless I use an M.2 PCIe breakout

stone wave Sep 27, 2019, 12:02 AM

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err my vertical mount blocks the other PCI-E slot
also I'm too cheap to want to buy a 2nd graphics card
but mostly the latter

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 12:20 AM

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CPU-X is likely a Linux counterpart of CPU-Z.

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gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 12:20 AM

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Yah, I've used it before

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 12:24 AM

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You might noticed it replicated from CPU-Z's UI

mental coyote Sep 27, 2019, 4:35 AM

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As far as linux docks: latte ain't bad, plank's decent. I used to run the hell outta cairo dock, but that's not been worked on in an age.

brave anchor Sep 27, 2019, 5:57 AM

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https://www.bostondynamics.com/spot?fbclid=IwAR3hvwDqZjTt_kNDZCS17yzZ4KLZPXCRRlkM-CBQtzbj8cOhTDk9Y92fgdI

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i want buy their robot

stone wave Sep 27, 2019, 6:07 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKjCWfuvYxQ

YouTube

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compact cloud Sep 27, 2019, 11:58 AM

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a lot of iOS devices will be jailbreakable and downgradable for life now

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only the most recent ones aren't affected

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cool news
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shadow valley Sep 27, 2019, 12:27 PM

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is it possible to bind the win+shit+s shortcut to a mouse button

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 12:28 PM

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@mental coyote you remember AWN?

mental coyote Sep 27, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Damn. Haven't heard of AWN in forever. z35wow

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Right? I remember when AWN was the shit

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 2:17 PM

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@subtle hawk ayyymd

📎 IMG_20190926_185130.jpg

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I need to cable manage a bit better

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 2:54 PM

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@subtle hawk rate cables

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 2:54 PM

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7/10

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Yeah, that's about what I figured

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@gloomy tinsel z35wow

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 5:06 PM

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;3

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Specs: Bottleneck? What's that?

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 5:17 PM

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@gloomy tinsel Is it just me or

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Did you not put in the RAM correctly

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Unless your mobo only supports two

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 5:18 PM

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it looks like its only 2

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 5:18 PM

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It is ITX, it only supports 2

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 5:19 PM

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i have an ITX that does 4

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Those are rare tho, and usually use SO-DIMMs

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 5:21 PM

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is that itx tower

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 5:23 PM

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Ye it is

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My PSU wattage might be a bit small, but it's a good quality unit. Also, Anandtech tested the RX 5700 XT with an overclocked 9900K, and that system didn't draw anywhere close to 450W from the wall, so I feel justified in keeping my PSU

flint bobcat Sep 27, 2019, 6:34 PM

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My PC doesn't even have any rgb EntyLUL

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:35 PM

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keyboard is the only thing i have

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:36 PM

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It's not RGB in my case, it's just red LEDs. I'm not actually using any of the RGB functionality, and I don't even have a window in my case lol

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It's a PC that happens to have RGB functionality, not an RGB PC

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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well yeah but RGB functionality is RGB

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Sure, I guess lol

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:37 PM

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if it could ONLY be red then its not RGB

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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But yeah it's more of a "this happens to have RGB in it"

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If I had the choice, I would have gotten all bland parts

tame topaz Sep 27, 2019, 6:38 PM

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@flint bobcat your case has RGB on the front

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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@tame topaz rate my cables

tame topaz Sep 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Better than mine for sure

flint bobcat Sep 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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That's my case BuckySmug

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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The PCIe can definitely be better, but I need extensions for that

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:39 PM

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i should post my cursed cables

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@severe falcon what specs have you again

tame topaz Sep 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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But yeah the LED strip at the front of Aria's case can change color

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Just need software

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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mine is presets

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:40 PM

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its 7 fans shoved into a micro-ATX split case

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plus the CPU fan

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CPU: FX-6300 @ 3.79 GHz
GPU: PNY GTX 950
PSU: 750 W
RAM: 16 12 GB DDR3 @ like 1800 idk

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@gloomy tinsel ^

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Oh FX-6300

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Neat

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yep shes been running for 6 years straight

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:02 PM

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So it's the old cousin of my PC

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What board do you have

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813132836

flint bobcat Sep 27, 2019, 7:04 PM

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my pc might now be rgb but my peripherals are BuckySmug

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📎 IMG_20190927_120502.jpg

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Sorry about bad picture quality, am editing on phone

flint bobcat Sep 27, 2019, 7:09 PM

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what side monitors are those

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Thinkpitz

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Heres the comp itself, ill get the monitor setup next

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gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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@flint bobcat left is Lenovo 171p, right is a Dell UltraSharp 1708 I think

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:12 PM

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well i guess i dont have a pic of it

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i have a pic of the old setup tho

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basically keep the left monitor, and replace the rest with a large TV with a terrible resolution and color quality

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:15 PM

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@severe falcon is that a Fractal Design case

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:16 PM

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yeah the Node 804

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:17 PM

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Nice, I have the Define Nano S

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:19 PM

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i like it, but i like my old comp better

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:20 PM

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@severe falcon I see that you don't have panels/taskbars on all monitors, good for you :3

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:21 PM

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i dont even know how to do that

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like sometimes i want a universal taskbar

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:23 PM

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Oh lol

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In win10, right click taskbar > settings > multiple displays

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You can choose whether the taskbar appears on all displays or just one

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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I always hide the taskbar LaffeyDrink

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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im on win7

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Gross, move off that old boi lol

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:25 PM

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win7

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Either upgrade to 10 or move to some other OS

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:29 PM

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ehhh, ill wait till i get new comp

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:29 PM

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👀

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Win7 is unsupported in 2020 so...

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Better get ur new comp soon lul

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:31 PM

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yeah ill see about going to 10

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i just hate that it changes so much

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Come to the Linux side :3

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:49 PM

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but games bruh

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:51 PM

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Games are way better than they used to be, so it might still be possible ;3

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ProtonDB

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:52 PM

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risk of rain 2 is currently windows only

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:53 PM

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https://www.protondb.com/app/632360 @severe falcon

Proton and Steam Play game reports for playing Windows games on Linux

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Platinum in Proton

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:54 PM

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huh, it doesnt list linux on steam

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Yeah, you have to enable the option that forces non-native games to load in Proton

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Not all are whitelisted by Valve, but a lot work

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:58 PM

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right now planet coaster is the only thing that won't run on Linux for me

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but I also dual boot to windows for nox

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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is protondb only for steam games?

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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yeah

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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rip BL3

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 7:59 PM

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because it lists steam's proton compatibility

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anything else you need to look in wine's appdb

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outside of games, I also have programs that still crashes under wine

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:00 PM

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alright i need a good linux distro

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im familiar with debian on the RPI

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:01 PM

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I just use Ubuntu MATE on desktop. Fedora MATE on laptop

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:01 PM

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I would recommend Ubuntu but you're going to play games there

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Fedora is a pretty solid gamer distro in my experience, due to all the recent libraries

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I'm currently using manjaro which is basically pre-packaged arch

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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oh crap i wonder if blender has a linux version

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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It does

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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it does lol

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Has had one for a long time

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:02 PM

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ah ok

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do most distros come with a bunch of compilers?

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:03 PM

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There are usually tons of compilers in the repositories of distros

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If you choose Fedora, make sure to add RPM Fusion for nice stuff like Discord and Steam

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:04 PM

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fedora vs ubuntu

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Ubuntu for wider compatibility and similarity to Debian, Fedora for cutting edgeness and development work

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Imo

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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yeah

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ubuntu is shit

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Of course Yamato has an opinion in this

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:05 PM

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oh no it's him

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:06 PM

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i mean i assume the only thing imma hear from yamato is "everything but arch is shit, but be a real man and make your own"

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Debian ain't bad, but I wouldn't choose Debian for a gaming distro

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:07 PM

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RoonPoint

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it's mainly for servers running stable apps

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debian is bae

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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It is excellent at the things it is good at

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Super stable and dependable

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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you won't find recent stuff in its package manager

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:09 PM

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It is ooooold

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Fedora is like the anti-Debian, kind of

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New, cutting edge, exciting! And sometimes, just once in a while, stuff breaks

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Fedora is for power users, developers who need the latest software stacks, early adopters

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:12 PM

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tf

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are u smoking

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😆

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arch is also like that

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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Arch is also like that

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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debian has a lot of recent packages

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:13 PM

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guys i use python, youtube, blender, unreal engine, and play my games on a 6 year old comp, i dont need the cutting edge

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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lol

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Boontoo

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Ubuntu

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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but yama is debian good for playing my steam games?

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:14 PM

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ye

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:16 PM

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arma 3 is on protondb

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:16 PM

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there's steam version of it

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Proton made Linux gaming so much better

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:16 PM

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wait so if theres a steam version then why would i need proton?

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:17 PM

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There isn't a Linux version, I checked. But it is gold in ProtonDB

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:20 PM

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basically proton provides windows environment to run games that are windows-only

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:20 PM

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You can always try Debian and see how it does for you. Last time I used Debian, the Nvidia drivers caught fire horribly, but that was 2 years ago

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I use Radeon these days anyway

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:20 PM

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yeah

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use the distro you're familiar with

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:20 PM

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yeah ill try debian

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wait

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i wonder if my RPI and comp can communicate with each other if both are on debian

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:21 PM

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They can if they both use Linux

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It shouldn't matter the distro

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:21 PM

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cuz then i might actually be able to make my holographic desktop assistant

gloomy tinsel Sep 27, 2019, 8:21 PM

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They can talk even if they run different OS

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:22 PM

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yeah but i mean talk easier

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:22 PM

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I mean your windows can even communicate with it

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:22 PM

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like i wanna tell my RPI to open my browser with a link on my desktop

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:22 PM

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network is a thing

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ah so controlling the UI 🤔

severe falcon Sep 27, 2019, 8:24 PM

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well i mean i want it to be like siri or cortana but like a physical thing and way better

subtle hawk Sep 27, 2019, 8:25 PM

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I never tried doing something like that

subtle hawk Sep 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/165372974415740928/627434719327420426/Screenshot_20190928-021957_Fedilab.jpg

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@subtle hawk delet

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this is utmost heresy

mental coyote Sep 28, 2019, 11:01 PM

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Manjaro is actually decent. It took Mint to make Ubuntu such.

vagrant holly Sep 29, 2019, 12:28 AM

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dude noctua coolers have a 6 year warranty wtf OwariWOKE

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like what could even go wrong with a cooler

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Use Be quiet coolers

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UniSip

vagrant holly Sep 29, 2019, 12:51 AM

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i'm just one of those boring people who don't care about looks and instead go for performance LaffeyDrink

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and the nh-d15 is like, just 12 euros more expensive than the dark rock 4 so i just went for it

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LaffeyDrink

vagrant holly Sep 29, 2019, 2:21 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGGKaX1D9Zo

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mental coyote Sep 29, 2019, 1:33 PM

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A kitty GPU? Oh my.

maiden umbra Sep 29, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Noctua are crazy good though, and as for what could go wrong with the coolers, heatpipes could snap, mounting screws might be faulty, fans can fail... Plenty can go wrong.

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 2:19 PM

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@subtle hawk

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idk if you can fix this or if its the wiki's problem but its annoying

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 2:29 PM

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huh

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lemme see

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 3:35 PM

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can we like modify the api

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ill write the dang search correction myself

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i mean i wrote a better search correction algorithm in information retreival class

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it used both soundex and edit distance

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which this thing doesnt even force case to search

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its not tho

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at least not how i learned it

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its just a general phonectic ruleset and you match based on it

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OH YOU MEANT SPEAKING LANGUAGE

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also in this specific case, i assume you would be searching for something you knew how to say

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thats why you do more than just soundex

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soundex is when you know what it sounds like, but not how its spelled

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like if you spell leonard as lynyrd

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both have the exact same soundex

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L563

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yeah edit distance def

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and then i wanna say theres also another thing i learned

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where like you mark the beginning and end with $ and then you shift all the letters around to match it

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maybe that was for wildcard searching

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like
shift$
hift$s
ift$sh
ft$shi
t$shif

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there was something with that but i cant remember

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also soundex just doesnt work because they usually see the word, not hear it

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its only if you attempt to phonetically spell it and it isnt spelled that way

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Search correction is also easy to implement in Nimi herself

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:32 PM

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oh true

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wait no

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Just Title Case all words, except for words like "the" and "or" and "of"

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Like seriously

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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cuz then nimi would need an updated list of all the possible wiki pages you can search for

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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Nah, a good heuristic in this case suffices

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Title Casing words except for short words would catch things like "prince of wales" and "duke of york"

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:33 PM

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well then how is she supposed to correct with edit distance?

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Edit distance is less of an issue

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:34 PM

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or when i do /wiki hip

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cuz that should just pull up hipper

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:34 PM

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You can also use Levenshtein algorithms

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:34 PM

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levenshtein IS edit distance

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:34 PM

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Yah

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I mean my heuristic plus that would work

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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but you need the OTHER word too

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you have to compare it

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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You can use the search API for that

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The search API finds things that are "close"

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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you mean the search API that doesnt correct?

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/wiki hipper

unkempt slateBOT Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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No wiki pages found.

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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/wiki admiral hipper

unkempt slateBOT Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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No wiki pages found.

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Doesn't correct, but produces a list of similar things

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if you have checked it out

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:35 PM

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it doesnt tho

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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It totally does, tho

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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then explain

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I've programmed with it

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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explain the two searches i just did

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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I can't. Because IDK how Nimi is written

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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well i assume she just uses the text in the api to search

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:36 PM

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but I assure you that this can work

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:37 PM

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and i assume "admiral hipper" gets no hits with the API

#

this is yamato we are talking about

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:37 PM

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Yeah but Yamato is not infallible

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for all his big talk

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:38 PM

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yeah but i assume if its just basically copy pasting text and it works, then it would work

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:38 PM

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The search API produces the same results as the special search. And special search does work for "hipper" https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&search=hipper

Azur Lane Wiki

Index.php?title=Special:Search&search=hipper

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:39 PM

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then i dont understand how theres a problem

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:39 PM

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Does the API still suck? Yeah, it does. But Yamato could have definitely tested more thoroughly to avoid issues like this

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:40 PM

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but thats the thing

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if what you say is true about the API, then literally zero testing was needed

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Again, IDK how he wrote the bot, what API hooks it's calling, how it was tested, or what it was tested against

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 5:40 PM

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oi

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:40 PM

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text = input()
api.search(text)

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 5:40 PM

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the fucc is going on here

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y'all finna get clapped

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:41 PM

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im on your side yamato

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:41 PM

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I'm not, because I wrote a bot of my own

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that doesn't have this issue

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:41 PM

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hes saying the API just does the search

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 5:42 PM

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who needs a bot when you have intern to search for you EntyLUL

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:48 PM

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@severe falcon I said there's a search API endpoint. I didn't say the whole API just does the search

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What I'm saying is, you can compare your results to the search API's results, and then from the search API you can get an exact match for a page

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:49 PM

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yeah but the bot already just vomits a list of the pages

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Then IDK what is happening

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:49 PM

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me neither

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thats why im confused

gloomy tinsel Sep 29, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Something, somewhere is being naughty :3

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 5:50 PM

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nimi is being naughty

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 8:17 PM

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@gloomy tinsel @severe falcon both of ya

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shut it

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I use the same API that powers the search bar in the wiki itself

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https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/ick0r.png

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this thing

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and that is powered by the OpenSearch API

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which works way better than the Search API

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 8:32 PM

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ok, so have you figured out why it cant find hipper's pages?

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 8:44 PM

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simple

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the same reason why the wiki can't

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it's not implemented to do advanced search

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 8:44 PM

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but it does?

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📎 unknown.png

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 8:45 PM

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that's the other search API

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 8:45 PM

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so not the search in the upper right corner?

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i have figured out the solution:
azurlane.koumakan.jp/w/index.php?search=[insert search text here]&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 8:54 PM

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it's not a solution

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smh

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 8:55 PM

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but it works better than the wiki's search api

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:28 PM

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i use another wiki for web scraping

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idk, i just started it, but looks good so far

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📎 unknown.png

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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@flint bobcat have fun getting banned

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EntyHeh

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:31 PM

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why MutsukiStare

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@subtle hawk

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 10:32 PM

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vamp doesn't like scrapers

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at all

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:32 PM

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whos vamp

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 10:32 PM

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especially annoying ones that hit the server very often

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the wiki host

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and I'm with her on that one

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:32 PM

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im not using koumakan wiki

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 10:32 PM

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scraping is rude

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:33 PM

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its ok yamato, im not using their site

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 10:33 PM

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are they fine with daily requesting the csv of the tables though?

subtle hawk Sep 29, 2019, 10:33 PM

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depends

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 10:34 PM

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well not daily, thats just an example

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cuz im trying to build a meta maker program

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:35 PM

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a what program

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MutsukiHyperStare

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 10:36 PM

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you pick like 1 or 2 ships you want, and it builds a meta around them

flint bobcat Sep 29, 2019, 10:36 PM

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ooo

severe falcon Sep 29, 2019, 10:36 PM

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cuz we have tier lists, but they dont go over composition tier lists

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cuz you can pick 6 T0 ships and then Nakaga just dabs on you

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whats the new one

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what

gloomy tinsel Sep 30, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Probably means Amagi Hiryuu Nagato

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Tested stability on upgraded system by running some stress tests, sometimes at the same time. System seems good

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 3:00 AM

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4K Linux test

📎 Screenshot_at_2019-09-29_18-15-39.png

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 3:01 AM

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get yourself a 4k night sky background

valid acorn Sep 30, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Unicorn peeking... UniSip

flint bobcat Sep 30, 2019, 3:26 AM

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rich boi

signal trellis Sep 30, 2019, 4:17 AM

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love the unicorn bg

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also is that gnome? been a while since I played with linux

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looks like arch with gnome

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 5:29 AM

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@subtle hawk is it fine if I just scrape everyone's quotes just once

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 5:30 AM

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i think a one time scrape is fine

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 5:31 AM

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which means continuous 300+ http requests

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 5:31 AM

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i think yamato and wiki host are more against the every minute kind of scrapes

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 5:31 AM

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ah, that kind of thing

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 5:31 AM

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uhhh im fairly certain you can ask #wiki-feedback and see if they just have a table of all that

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or some way to download all of them without scraping

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 5:32 AM

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@signal trellis I'm using MATE desktop environment on Fedora Linux. The dock that I used is Plank.

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also against shit that does 300 400 requests a second

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nah, my connection is too slow for that rate LeanderXD

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like if ur gonna do it atleast have the decency of not hitting everything at once

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 5:32 AM

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why would you even need something that scrapes that much on our wiki

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i would think a daily scrape would just be mostly the same info

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 5:33 AM

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yeah, stats can be cached

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 5:33 AM

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like zero changes

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but yeah @subtle hawk def go ask the wiki team if theres a way to just download all the lines

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its easier than a scraper

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the only thing i hate about the mediawiki stuff is that there is not a "select * from table" thing

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so you have to manually enter every single column name

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@subtle hawk time to scrape

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 6:00 AM

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huh

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I still didn't finish the parser LeanderXD

severe falcon Sep 30, 2019, 6:00 AM

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i used beautiful soup with python

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I just do standard library

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its DOM parser is hard to work with, I know ZkkBore

subtle hawk Sep 30, 2019, 6:18 AM

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no they're not

umbral onyx Oct 1, 2019, 5:11 AM

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Which is more efficient? A pulsating flesh animated by shaders or manual animation?

severe falcon Oct 1, 2019, 5:15 AM

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you mean like animated normal map vs mesh animation?

umbral onyx Oct 1, 2019, 5:17 AM

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shaders is not normal map

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MutsukiHyperStare

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but something like that

severe falcon Oct 1, 2019, 5:18 AM

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well how else will the shader show it?

umbral onyx Oct 1, 2019, 5:19 AM

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shaders allows you to mess with vertices, colour, opacity, wetness, etc and etc

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it's way beyond normal map

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MutsukiHyperStare

severe falcon Oct 1, 2019, 5:19 AM

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like move the vertices?

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cuz im pretty sure a normal animation is more efficient than having the shader do it

umbral onyx Oct 1, 2019, 5:45 AM

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huh

vagrant holly Oct 1, 2019, 7:08 AM

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it depends on what kind of efficiency you're looking for

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if it's storage space you're trying to be efficient about, then shader animations are better, at the cost of greater processing power required to give you the result, because now your game/bake has to go to the shader and figure out how the animation works

#

if you're trying to spare processing power however, manual animations are better as the data is already there and once the file with the keyframes is loaded, it can just be executed with no further instructions needed, nothing to figure out, the downside to this however is that all those keyframes have to be stored somewhere, so it ends up taking more storage space

#

there is no "better" way of doing things, each approach has its own upsides and downsides, it really comes down to what you want to animate

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like for example, if the object you want to animate is an object that will always be in the game world, and it won't be destroyed by the player or it shouldn't be affected by the actions of the player like for example, a flag that's really high up, if the player doesn't have a long range weapon to affect the flag (or you simply don't care about the flag reacting to the player's actions) you can just animate it yourself, or you pre-bake a cloth animation with a physics engine

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a good example of this is pretty much every banner or flag in skyrim

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you can also use pre-baked or manual animations for objects that will get destroyed, or specific scenes where the destruction has to be properly animated and you don't want any clipping to happen, a good example of this is GTA V's scene of the manor crashing down

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https://youtu.be/VL3ctImH98U?t=225

YouTube

Mingi Bro

GTA 5 Mission destroy Martins house

▶ Play video

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you might want to use physics engines or shaders if you want dynamic destruction that you really can't be bothered animating by hand, like for example, shooting at a wall and rubble falling and bouncing on the ground

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Remind me what hardware @subtle hawk

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 12:38 AM

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@gloomy tinsel huh

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EssexCry

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oh my specs?

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err

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AMD gang

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 12:39 AM

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That's vague

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I told you what mine are, I think

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IDC if "AMD gang" means a Phenom II and Radeon HD 5750

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IDC if "AMD gang" means a Phenom II and Radeon HD 5750

stone wave Oct 2, 2019, 12:48 AM

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AMD Sempron 3200+
512 MB RAM
ATI Radeon X800 GTO

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Oh neat, an AM2 Sempron

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lol

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 1:16 AM

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@gloomy tinsel Ah sorry

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Ryzen 7, Vega 64

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 1:16 AM

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owo

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2700X?

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I'm assuming this isn't Zen 2 since it's got a Vega

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Yes 👀

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Vega :3

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Which V64 is it

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Or is it just the reference one

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Asus

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EntyHeh

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regular 2700 here ZkkBore

flint bobcat Oct 2, 2019, 1:23 AM

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i have 2400g

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BuckySmug

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and it works perfectly

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I have oldboi, 1600

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and Sapphire Pulse RX 5700 XT

flint bobcat Oct 2, 2019, 1:28 AM

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mine is a gtx 1660

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even tho there are much newer gpus out there, this one works above 60fps

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 1:28 AM

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GTX 950, made by PNY

flint bobcat Oct 2, 2019, 1:29 AM

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i bought a gtx 1050 off of ebay for $50

#

found out it was a GTS 950 and shit died after a week

#

AkagiLUL

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 1:30 AM

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mine is somehow alive

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:03 AM

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somehow

I mean, graphics cards usually last a fair while

#

and the GTX 950 is not that old a model

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:04 AM

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yeah but its not great

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certainly not better than what it replaced

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Sure, but that doesn't have much to do with the longevity of the hardware

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:05 AM

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yeah but i def overpaid and am salty

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:05 AM

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Oof

#

What's the rest of the hardware?

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:06 AM

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CPU: fx-6300
RAM: 12 GB ddr3
PSU: 750 W

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:07 AM

#

Oh right, I think you said

#

Hello, Vishera

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:07 AM

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and shes been happily switching her bits for like 7 years now

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:07 AM

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IMO, it's not as bad a CPU as people often said it was

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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people said it was a bad cpu?

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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A lot of people did lol

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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what lot of people? cuz literally ALL of my friends had it

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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I personally think it was good value for a number of use cases

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

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and thats different professions literally across the globe

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:08 AM

#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Most people I've spoken to held it in low regard

#

I personally thought it an underrated part

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:09 AM

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yeah i havent found anything that could max it

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except poorly optimized programs that i made

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:11 AM

#

When that time comes, thinking of upgrading to Ryzen?

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:11 AM

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less upgrade and more entire new build

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:11 AM

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Fair lol

#

Not much you can keep from that system

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:11 AM

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ill keep a hard drive, maybe 2

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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PSU you can most likely keep

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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nah im gonna get a new one

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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unless it's a bad PSU

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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this one is also like 6 years old and it was close to maxed for a while

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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🤔

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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like 699/750 W

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:12 AM

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I see

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:13 AM

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i had twin ATIs before the 950 and they were hungry for electrcity

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:14 AM

#

For my PSU, I don't think I'll need to replace it soon. This graphics card should keep me happy for years, and if the CPU gets upgraded, it'll be to Zen 2 or newer, and the wattage probably won't increase

#

CPU upgrade would most likely be to 3700X or its equivalent

#

Maybe 3900 or equivalent

#

The 65W 12-core

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:15 AM

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yeah im just gonna get all new things cuz id rather have a system thats ready to go for 10 years rather than 4

#

gonna go for 2700X

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:15 AM

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I built my system with the "slowly upgrade it over time" mentality

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:15 AM

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yeah same, but ive hit the max with my current one

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like theres not an original part on my comp except the OS hard drive

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:16 AM

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Mm

#

This PC I currently have is technically the upgrade of an old Dell prebuilt, if you can believe it

#

I say "technically" because only the SSD and GPU got carried over to this system, and now the GPU's been replaced too

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:17 AM

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mine is the literal ship of theseus of computers

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:18 AM

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No original parts lol

#

"Is it the same PC???"

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:18 AM

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I think the only old part in my pc is a laptop's ssd

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:18 AM

#

the original that we bought off ebay had a phenom, one ATi card, a 450 W psu, a different case, mobo, ram, etc

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:19 AM

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This system is the replacement for a Q8300 lol

#

Core 2 Quads are still surprisingly decent

#

There's a counterpart system to this - a Ryzen 7 1700 server

#

I definitely had fun with that server build

#

even if it is ghetto af

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

nice

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:22 AM

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R7 1700
24 GB RAM
16 GB SSD boot drive + some hard drive, I forgot
GT 710, which I had on hand already
A craptastic case I had lying around

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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24gb LaffeyStare

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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24 is a weird number

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

3 8gb sticks?

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Yah, 3x8

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:23 AM

#

or 4 x 6 gb

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

#

I don't even know if it's running in mixed dual channel or not. It's a big ??? whether the Gigabyte board actually supports that feature

#

Fortunately, memory speed is not an issue for this system

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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so why not get a 4th 8gb stick?

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I used to run 3 stick

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Money lol

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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but it's way back in few years ago

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:24 AM

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I'm a lazy asshole and I don't feel the need to fill the last slot

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not with the current demands at least

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:25 AM

#

my original comp was a 3 stick

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4 4 2

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and all were from different manufacturers

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:25 AM

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I don't even use all up right now

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:25 AM

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oh i use my 12 EASILY

#

arma and minecraft just eat it

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:26 AM

#

The OS on the server is also ghetto. I chose Xubuntu 18.04 instead of some server Linux because I'm lazy, and I might run Steam on it at some point to host game servers

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 2:27 AM

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but it's only part I wanted to upgrade because I somehow went with 2666MHz stick ZkkBore

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and I have no one in my home who uses ddr4 sticks

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:28 AM

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You can tell the server is ghetto partly because the screws don't match

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:29 AM

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i would kill you for mismatched screws and not bat an eye at mismatched anything else

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:29 AM

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hahaha

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(don't look at the back of this server, the thumbscrews holding the panels in don't even match)

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

is the back easily viewable?

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Nah

#

But like

The right panel is held in with thumbscrews that have black plastic grips, and the left panel is held in with black-painted ones

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

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then i care slightly less

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wait do they look the same?

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

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No

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They do not

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

then i care slightly less

#

because i know they are different even if i cant see them

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 2:33 AM

#

Speaking of screw choices, I also chose to use normal screws to hold in my GPU instead of the thumbscrews that came with the case.

#

It basically boiled down to "GPU too fat, not enough space to easily install thumbscrews"

violet nexus Oct 2, 2019, 10:35 AM

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i need to learn MPLS

#

holishite

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 7:24 PM

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@subtle hawk are there any alternatives to javascript for web stuff? Im still gonna be using html and css tho

#

or anyone can answer really

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 8:46 PM

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@severe falcon you don't

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 8:47 PM

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Oof

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 8:48 PM

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but a compiler that targets js/webasm exists

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Yeah talking with some others, ive decided ill just stick with javascript

gloomy tinsel Oct 2, 2019, 8:52 PM

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If you hate JS that much, you can use languages that compile to JS. There is a Python-JS compiler

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 9:46 PM

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its less hating javascript and more i watched a man die on the inside trying to query a database with javascript

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:07 PM

#

ciotto a second

#

@severe falcon

#

the fuck did u just say

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:08 PM

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i mean we were learning as we were doing it

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:08 PM

#

query database using clientside JS

#

excuse you what

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:08 PM

#

and the whole "not waiting for a function to return before running the next line" caused a kerfuffle

#

uhh yeah it was for a website

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:09 PM

#

like

#

u have to be absolutely r-word-since-the-skrubs-will-clap-me-if-I-say-it-again to do that

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

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yeah thats what happens when you tell students to do a project

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

#

the database is queried serverside

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

#

and they have never done anything like it before

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:10 PM

#

the client only gets the results

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in a formatted way

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

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i mean it was on the website that was hosted on the same cloud as the database

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

#

still

#

you don't fuking do that

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

#

we just used the javascript to get the results

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:11 PM

#

this ain't PHP

#

like wtf man

#

you run a web server that will handle requests and the database queries

#

the clientside JS should only know to send requests to the web server and do something with the returned data

#

the web server can be in anything u want

#

python, JS, C#, Java, go, PHP, C++

#

you name it

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:14 PM

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oh then we did that

#

using firebase

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

#

so u couldn't figure out how to make a simple HTTP request?

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:15 PM

#

it was getting it to display

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because it would display the info before the info was returned from the function

#

so it was blank

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:17 PM

#

literally

fetch('https://api.example.com/user/favourites').then(r => r.json()).then(res => { /* do smth with the result */ })

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:18 PM

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oh so you put .then() if you want it to wait

#

see we had a website to build with literally 0 classes between any of us on how to build a website

#

so w3schools taught us everything

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and by everything i mean the basics and nothing that we actually needed to know to get it to work

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

.then is one way

#

there's also callbacks

#

and async/await

#

and generators

#

but nobody uses those

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

yeah callbacks are what we tried to do

#

it ended up working

subtle hawk Oct 2, 2019, 10:20 PM

#

everyone is using then or async/await now

severe falcon Oct 2, 2019, 10:21 PM

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that wouldve helped last year a bunch

#

oh well now ill have an easier time

violet nexus Oct 3, 2019, 10:37 AM

#

what should i learn first in python ?

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 10:53 AM

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hello world

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 12:56 PM

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it's just print("hello world") though

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unless counting installation steps

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 1:15 PM

#

But that is bad practice

#

#!/usr/bin/env python3

def main():
    """Print "Hello World!""""
    print("Hello World!")

if __name__ == "__main__":
    main()```

#

This is better practice

#

Adding a docstring to the module would be even better practice

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 1:27 PM

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yes I know about that but I only do it on serious codes or modules

#

most of my quick scripts are not documented and doesn't have __name__ check

tame topaz Oct 3, 2019, 1:30 PM

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@gloomy tinsel what the hecc

#

y tho

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 1:31 PM

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To get into the habit of doing proper practice, duh

tame topaz Oct 3, 2019, 1:33 PM

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?

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 1:38 PM

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Proper practice of doing __name__ checks and docstrings

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Imo it is best to start early

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When learning

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 1:39 PM

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__name__ checks are for when you wanted to import this file as a module to prevent accidentally executing it on import

tame topaz Oct 3, 2019, 1:43 PM

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huh

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:05 PM

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you and your weird python habits

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also @gloomy tinsel this ain't bash

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no need to specify the runtime at the top

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:06 PM

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I do it anyway for my own stuff

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:06 PM

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that ain't a good practice

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:06 PM

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So I can call the script directly

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:07 PM

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exactly for that reason it's not good practice

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:07 PM

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It is actually normal practice

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:07 PM

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it's not

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:07 PM

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🤔

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:08 PM

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execution flag should be explicit not implicit

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:08 PM

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I see it a lot in Linux packages

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 2:09 PM

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because they're packages

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a way someone thinks u should install and configure smth

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doesn't mean it's the right way

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 2:09 PM

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🤔 🤔 🤔

subtle hawk Oct 3, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I always run it as python filename.py

severe falcon Oct 3, 2019, 4:48 PM

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same

gloomy tinsel Oct 3, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Well, TIL I guess

vagrant holly Oct 4, 2019, 12:01 AM

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man i love how they are trying to get all smart about windows 10 updates by making them do in the background without telling you but you still notice it because your disk usage skyrockets up to 100% for the entire duration

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if you fail to be low-key about it because you still end up gimping performance, why hide it at all?

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the issue is not that it needs to update, but the fact that it does it without even telling you and ends up gimping performance LaffeyDrink

subtle hawk Oct 4, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Is the october update out today?