technology

[violet nexus]

but that is enhanced version

the normal cat5 only

[gloomy tinsel]

normal cat5 is rated for 1G

Technically, cat5 can go up to 5G

[violet nexus]

fuk

activity failed for 3rd time

fuk fuk fuk

sleepless nights

still continues

[valid acorn]

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave could u recommend me a strong usb stick

[stone wave]

strong as in?

[flint bobcat]

fast and has enough storage

like 16~32GB

[severe falcon]

scavenge one

[stone wave]

just get any well reviewed USB 3.0 one off Amazon

16-32 GB is like dirt cheap

if you need to store something more substantial you can get something like the Samsung T5 but that's an external SSD rather than a USB flash drive

[flint bobcat]

nah, I just need to store school work in it

[stone wave]

yeah then anything will do

or just dump it online (dropbox, google drive, microsoft onedrive)

[valid acorn]

Put more storage in the cloud drive: 💸

[subtle hawk]

also subscription

[subtle hawk]

I bought 50 USB drives from Kingston

for our uni bois and myself

[valid acorn]

I rather buy from SanDisk

Yes, they are a but expensive, but higher data speed

[subtle hawk]

for storage I trust kingston and samsung more than anyone else

for flash storage that is

magnetic storage is WD and SeaGate

[valid acorn]

Wasnt SeaGate a popular brand back then

[subtle hawk]

it's still one of the leaders in storage technology

along with WD, Intel, Samsung

[valid acorn]

IBM

[subtle hawk]

IBM doesn't do jack shit anymore

this ain't 2002

[valid acorn]

I saw their office on the way

[gloomy tinsel]

The thing about SSDs is that at the mid to high end, most solutions are good

Even the midrange offerings from obscure brands, like Mushkin, are very solid. I have a Mushkin drive that's been operating for years now

As long as you're not getting a trashy drive with low quality NAND and no DRAM, you should be fine

Everyone's got their lemons, too. The Crucial BX500 is such a downgrade vs the BX300 lol

[subtle hawk]

@gloomy tinsel I'm talking about OEMs

not some rebranders

[gloomy tinsel]

For OEMs, Micron makes some great NAND

Crucial is their brand

[subtle hawk]

I will only trust Samsung or Intel NAND and controllers

[vagrant holly]

i honestly only trust samsung with ssds

since they released their QVO lineup, they pretty much hold a monopoly on the budget ssd market aswell

[gloomy tinsel]

Micron has made some great drives over the years, competitive with the Samsung ones

The BX500 is crap, and probably just their way of getting rid of third-rate material

[subtle hawk]

don't care

only those 2 companies have actually good high quality long lasting controllers

[tame topaz]

why tf do they all have to be so secretive about their controllers anyway

[subtle hawk]

because that's what makes a SSD work

it's literally the heart of it

[tame topaz]

so?

[subtle hawk]

giving your competitors the technology means you're hurting your own sales

basic business strategy

[tame topaz]

trade secrets, of course

fuck that

[subtle hawk]

well go run a business

see how it is

you want a company to make good stuff for free? not in a million years

[tame topaz]

not for free

just more public about the shit they do

[subtle hawk]

why should they

so others profit off of it?

it's their proprietary silicon that they spent R&D into

that gives them a advantage over others

it's like asking cocacola to show their recipe

[tame topaz]

good ol competition eh

[subtle hawk]

there's no innovation without competition

[tame topaz]

we might as well stay cavemen, use up all our resources and die off tbh

[gloomy tinsel]

Disagree entirely @subtle hawk, I've had great results from SMI controllers and plenty of reviewers have found the same. Some of the ones I have on hand are quite old now

[subtle hawk]

"reviewers"

[gloomy tinsel]

Plenty of people I know have these units as well

[subtle hawk]

those said reviewers didn't run hundreds of them in servers

[gloomy tinsel]

If you're running hundreds of drives in servers, you're also using enterprise grade drives. You can't compare that to a consumer drive

[subtle hawk]

they're not that different from consumer ones

[gloomy tinsel]

Regardless of that, you see SMI drives in enterprises too

[tame topaz]

not everyone uses -grade hardware

like why tf are SLC SSDs so expensive anyway

[gloomy tinsel]

SLC is much lower density, among other things

To make an SLC drive with the same capacity takes more stuff

[tame topaz]

quick tldr on how ECC works?

[gloomy tinsel]

Typically, ECC works by having an extra memory chip that stores extra parity bits. Parity bits are used to check whether a string of bits has an even or odd number of 1s in it.

So like, if a bit in some sequence flips somewhere randomly, then that sequence will compare wrongly with its parity bit. The error is caught and the system corrects it, hopefully.

This also means that as typically implemented, ECC can only catch single-bit errors.

So it is not a magic bullet - it helps detect random errors, but it does not detect all types of them.

[tame topaz]

interesting how bits work eh

[subtle hawk]

Where do I even start with this...

[valid acorn]

A cracked PCB?

[stone wave]

RIP

keyboard?

[severe falcon]

@tame topaz also as long as its only a single bit error, the parity knows exactly which bit is the culprit and can auto correct on the fly

[subtle hawk]

@valid acorn @stone wave Indeed

Picked up a vintage Dell AT101 with Black Alps the other day

But came in DOA, thankfully I got a refund lol

Now I just have a paperweight that I can probably use to practice soldering

[valid acorn]

I wonder if it's still functioning

[subtle hawk]

definitely not

as soon as it arrived i tested it practically out of the box

first with two different converters, then an actual native PS/2 port

i actually thought it was the first converter at first, maybe it was DOA

so I bought a second, better one

_>

then when that didn't work even after many cold boots and even hotplugging

i opened it up anyways to see if a capacitor, resistor, or even the IC went bad

everything seemed fine and i was perplexed until I flipped the damn thing over

and saw that

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

unless it's a multi layer PCB then you can probably re-etch it

[valid acorn]

[worthy spear]

Oh

Real shit

[flint bobcat]

is this the right order?

[subtle hawk]

probably not

unless you're 100% sure I don't see a point in replacing the board

[flint bobcat]

its part of hw we have to do

its just in order steps you take with 4 solutions

[severe falcon]

why is it not DABC?

are they wanting for only specifically that scenario or are they asking for a checklist?

cuz DABC seems like a proper checklist

[flint bobcat]

hmm

i guess ur right

well i first thought, how would u ask urself if its more expensive until you find a replacement mobo

[severe falcon]

well you look at the cost of a mobo

like are you the computer repair guy in this scenario or are you the owner of the laptop?

[flint bobcat]

wut

idk

its from a book i am reading for an IT class

[severe falcon]

well either way, what if the client/you needs that laptop after you already check that its out of warranty and a replacement mobo is more expensive than buying a new laptop? i would assume the "find a replacement mobo" means to scavenge for one for cheaper

[flint bobcat]

hmm i see

also i dont think you can find cheaper than the manufacturer's mobo, cause laptop mobo's are specially built from their manufacturer

[severe falcon]

yeah but like scavenge another broken laptop of the same type

it all depends on the scenario

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

we have a dinosaur scanner that lives off of proper maintenance and PRAYERS

it has some kind of green lamp and its a tan color

most people would say get a new scanner, but it works so we use it

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

i mean i have a new scanner, but that person still needed that scanner

[flint bobcat]

can someone help me on this question

[severe falcon]

well judging from the last part, i assume they are talking about hooking it up to another display and pressing the button to make it duplicate screens

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

cuz at that point you know the graphics are still being outputted

its just that the screen isnt using them

but then you can also still use the laptop even though the replacement wont be in yet

[flint bobcat]

ah nice, thanks

i get what you meant

also, git bash is really useful

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk in response to your message on #discord-feedback

[subtle hawk]

smh

NISEMONO

[hoary panther]

yankers

[subtle hawk]

Alps keycaps

[severe falcon]

this was in memes, but it deserves to be here

[tame topaz]

@subtle hawk yo apple

I cleaned my keycaps on Lunar New Year too. They're all gunky as hell.

Meanwhile the keyboard's metal midplate is pretty much irrecoverable.

Covered in all kinds of gunk and rust.

[subtle hawk]

@tame topaz

👀

Pics

[tame topaz]

Eh not now, don't have my phone

[subtle hawk]

You could probably at least attempt to recover the backplate with some hydrochloric acid but

Do it outside

And don’t accidentally make mustard gas

[tame topaz]

also rip any chances of op Sighthound in real time

It was yesterday lol

[subtle hawk]

yeah, instead we got the DLC delayed (again)

[tame topaz]

also tfw missed Magic Spear because it was on independence day

[subtle hawk]

Wasn't Long Day the one on the 4th

[stone wave]

I'm still using a Model M, older than the one I had before which was a '94 Lexmark but I cannibalized it for parts to repair this older '86 IBM one.

Still need to get around to getting myself a ~70% board with those Kailh Box Navy switches that I've been eyeing. But too lazy right now.

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave Interesting, that’s definitely a terminal keyboard isn’t it

[stone wave]

nah amazingly

[subtle hawk]

given the lack of numpad indicator lights

[stone wave]

It was for XT/AT

[subtle hawk]

What protocol does it use? RJ45? 5 pin DIN? or PS/2

[stone wave]

It has the detachable cable and would have shipped with a cable for either XT or AT systems

[subtle hawk]

I have a ‘95 Dell Lexmark Model M coming in sometime next week, hopefully I have better luck with it compared to the AT101 that arrived DOA with a broken PCB >_>

[stone wave]

but a PS/2 cable works just fine on any computer

Yeah that sucks

no idea how a PCB ends up like someone dropped a bowling ball on it

[subtle hawk]

Silitek were quite notorious for being real cheap with their boards

The AT101 I had was a GYUM92SK, one of the later Dell Bigfoots

and by then the plastic casing was pretty much just a hollow shell, with a metal backing plate, some screws, and some foolish EMI resistance sheet lol

Also >Kailh Box Navy

pls

if you want real cherry clones go gateron

[stone wave]

Are Kailh Box switches Cherry clones?

Cause they use a different thing for the click/tactile bump

[subtle hawk]

aside from the key stem, not at all really

at least imo

i mean, going off of that logic then some vague 1992 Packard Bell BTC dome with slider keyboard is a cherry clone

as well as the Sega dreamcast keyboard

also uses cherry stems

[stone wave]

I'm eyeing the Box Navys cause of that high bottom out force and the sheer clickyness

Cause previously I was just using MX Blacks and they're not really cutting it for me.

[subtle hawk]

ah, fair enough

I tend to gravitate towards linear switches myself but I prefer simple reds

or linearised black Alps, with the leafspring absent

[stone wave]

I have a 60% and a TKL with MX Blacks so figure I'd get something that wasn't linear.

[subtle hawk]

60% :notlikethis:

how do you manage

[stone wave]

I had a numpad

like a separate one

60% is still manageable but the folks that go 40% IDK how they do anything

[subtle hawk]

normally I could do w/o numpad, people always told me I'd have a hard time subnetting with the numrow but I've actually found myself be faster with it

but I at least need the function keys

unless

[stone wave]

and as far as I'm concerned "layers" is not a fucking answer

[subtle hawk]

with a 40% all you can do is

type

[stone wave]

yeah the lack of arrow keys is pretty bad

[subtle hawk]

hey how wide is your Model M, forgot its dimensions

[stone wave]

let me find a tape measure

[subtle hawk]

might need to rearrange my desk again once it comes in since my main board at home is a tkl

[stone wave]

~7.1 inches

[subtle hawk]

once it arrives i'll just use my tkl with my laptop since I use a cheap rubber dome with it already

[stone wave]

oh wait oops

[subtle hawk]

don't really like using flat profile/chiclet keys lol

[stone wave]

1ft, 7.1 inches

19.1 inches

or ~ 48.5 cm

[subtle hawk]

ah

might need to move my nendos then

actually I can probably get by leaving it as it is but won't have any space for my mouse lmao

[stone wave]

its basically like a full size with 2.5 inches added to it

it's also heavy as fuck

If you hate money you can get the SSK

[subtle hawk]

actually

i'll send a picture of my desk when I get home, at uni right now

tell me if I'll need to make any adjustments lol

inb4 I have to put my tower off the table again

oh yeah was your model m made by

IBM corp or Lexmark

I mean probably the former

but just wondering

[stone wave]

My current one is IBM

[subtle hawk]

truly old af

[stone wave]

https://i.vgy.me/8mKqYS.jpg

[subtle hawk]

oh jesus christ

big ass barcode label and speaker lol

[stone wave]

speaker is actually empty

but pretty much all the moldings have the speaker grill

[subtle hawk]

hmm that's odd your keys are the one-part models

[stone wave]

nah they're 2 part keys

[subtle hawk]

oh doesn't look like it from here

nvm too far from screen

[subtle hawk]

oh that's the inner part

lmao

[stone wave]

If you need a size reference for the Model M, here's my previous one next to my 60%
https://i.redd.it/9g0q7knwcl431.jpg

[subtle hawk]

I think my lexmark one has the one piece keys

SA keycaps 👀

oh that's

an absolute unit

[stone wave]

I think some have 1 piece keys but the early to mid 90's have the 2 piece keys

[subtle hawk]

yeah gonna have to move the nendos

oh no wonder, the one coming in was made in 95

[flint bobcat]

Mith you bought that from eBay right?

[stone wave]

err yea

but i wouldnt buy one unless you know what you're doing

cause some of the parts are fragile after 20-30 years and may require skill to remedy

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave

totally not late

But anyways that’s a general guesstimate

[valid acorn]

Nendroids

[subtle hawk]

... yeah I think I’ll need to make more space lol

[valid acorn]

Is that a curved monitor?

[subtle hawk]

@valid acorn Yes

Samsung CF390

[valid acorn]

Looks flat at an angle

[flint bobcat]

Ump45

[subtle hawk]

saekano

man of culture but questionable waifu choice

[valid acorn]

[mental coyote]

UMP45 is best UMP.

[obtuse dawn]

And today in "stupid ideas Xudmud tries"...

Running a VM off of a flash drive

Heat makes the performance really suffer. Switched to an old drive in an enclosure, and it's working much better now.

[severe falcon]

i have to have a fan pointed at my wifi adaptor or it gets so hot that it stops functioning

[valid acorn]

How can a wifi adaptor get hot that easily?

[subtle hawk]

any network interface gets rlly hot if u push a lot of data through it

most 10Gbits NICs have giant heatsinks on them

some with fans

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/9i46j.png

[valid acorn]

[severe falcon]

oh its not from the amount of data

its just cuz its old

if my isp decided to be nice and actually give us some good service, it can download 4 MBytes per second

most of the time its at 1.4 MBytes per second

[valid acorn]

I think the macbook pro is wasting space

[subtle hawk]

well you think

I think it's just the right balance

doe that keyboard is aids

[valid acorn]

Yeah

Butterfly keyboards

[subtle hawk]

thankfully my macbook has the old scissor keyboard

[valid acorn]

Idk how much does it cost to replace the keyboards

[subtle hawk]

you can't

especially on the new models

it's a absolute nightmare

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

especially since the keyboard is tied to the trackpad

[gloomy tinsel]

I like small trackpads

[subtle hawk]

good to know that revy is a masochist

[gloomy tinsel]

I use the trackpoint

Mainly

[subtle hawk]

god

definitely maso

[gloomy tinsel]

I call it "cultured"

[subtle hawk]

cultured is do most stuff with a few trackpad gestures

like how apple did it

[gloomy tinsel]

Cultured is keybinding and macroing the stuff you use

[subtle hawk]

keybinding and macroing is turbo ghae

[gloomy tinsel]

I wonder if there's a single thing we agree upon

[subtle hawk]

probably not

mostly bcz I'm not a hipster

[gloomy tinsel]

We agree that I'm a hipster, so there is that

[tame topaz]

Trackpoints never go out of style.

Never.

[valid acorn]

wont they?

[valid acorn]

I just saw an update on the galaxy store about its game launcher

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk i need some programming help

Its reading "013" as 11

It also read "014" as 12

What did i do wrong? Does my rpi have ligma?

[valid acorn]

nuclear.....

[severe falcon]

Yeah i was trying to make an educational way of sharing nuclear codes without actually showing the code

[pulsar saddle]

is this Python 2?

it reads 0xxx as an octal integer

Python 3 will read as base 10 integer as expected

[severe falcon]

Oh thats the dumbest thing ever, but yeah thats the problem

Well now its working

So i can get the most complicated warn in history

[gloomy tinsel]

Lol Python 2

This looks like P3 tho, it uses input and not raw_input

You should have a try-catch or some other check so that invalid inputs don't crash the program

[severe falcon]

listen this is just a dumb program

and i thought i was using python 3.7, but i guess "python [program]" does python 2

[gloomy tinsel]

Ye you have to run python3

That's normal on older distros like Debian. On Fedora and I think 'buntu, python now defaults to Py3

Py2 is EOL in 2020, so soon Debian will move over too

[severe falcon]

ah so thats why i didnt break my programs on windows

[gloomy tinsel]

Some distros like Fedora introduce new versions mid-release. For those, Fedora uses pythonXY with X and Y being individual digits for the new version until the next release comes out, that way existing programs in the repos don't get accidentally blown up.

E.g. when Python 3.6 launched

[pulsar saddle]

I will probably still write Python 2 and 3-compatible code even after Py2 EOL

It's a habit at this point

[gloomy tinsel]

Lmao force of habit

I'm used to writing Py3 code at this point

[flint bobcat]

nuclear codes

monkaS

[severe falcon]

yes aria, i will be able to legally post nuclear codes

[subtle hawk]

niimi

dan this man

[severe falcon]

Listen, if i post two equations, and say the nuclear code is the intersection, it better just be a softwarn for cleverly posting a code

[subtle hawk]

nah it's dan

from discord

[severe falcon]

account deleted

Discord just uninstalls itself from every device

Man im hoping my project doesnt get picked

Cuz i have no idea how im gonna make AR for identifying birds in real time

[subtle hawk]

wait what

[severe falcon]

Well my project was to make an app that can search a database of birds based on a description of how it looks

The teachers want me to do something with google glass or aumented reality

[subtle hawk]

google glass

is that hunk of junk still around?

[severe falcon]

Idk maybe

But like

[subtle hawk]

and for AR you need something with an AR core

like a flagship smartphone

[severe falcon]

Well how does pokemon go do its ar?

[subtle hawk]

it's not AR in the true sense

it just aproximates distance and puts the object as if it's at that distance

a AR core equipped device can also map out the surface and put it directly on that surface

[severe falcon]

Ah

Well the distance thing is what they mean

Cuz then you could position a model of the bird near the same location as the one in the photo and then decide where thats it or not

[subtle hawk]

sounds like a royal pain in the ass

for nothing

[severe falcon]

Yeah

But my project is one of the GOOD ones

[flint bobcat]

yamato

i just learned that amazon provides free cloud services for students

[severe falcon]

with only 1 gb of space

[subtle hawk]

took u long enough

so does azure

[severe falcon]

They trimmed the number of projects to the top 6

[flint bobcat]

yamato, u get free cloud service from yostar anyway

[subtle hawk]

[severe falcon]

Some of the ones that didnt make it were absolutely awful

[flint bobcat]

btw, whats the space, yamato

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/i8hiq.png

[severe falcon]

Like one of them straight up sounded like a scam

[subtle hawk]

just enough for everything

[flint bobcat]

is it bigger storage than what you have

or yours is bigger

[subtle hawk]

definetly not bigger than what I have

[flint bobcat]

kek

[severe falcon]

Why do you need the third nimi?

[subtle hawk]

they would need to pay about 2k a month to have something close to what I have

[severe falcon]

I assume one nimi is for here, the other nimi is for testing, so what about 3?

[subtle hawk]

all 3 are niimi

she can't go without one

[severe falcon]

Oh

Well do they do different things?

[subtle hawk]

eeexactly

[severe falcon]

OR WAIT YOU MADE THE SUPERCOMPUTER FROM EVANGELION

[subtle hawk]

oh sh-

[severe falcon]

all 3 must agree on a plan before they can enact it

One of them is broken and keeps saying they shouldnt ban me

[subtle hawk]

yes niimi is a superior being to u mere mortals

[flint bobcat]

is this the right way to sftp?

D-Dev is a directory

[subtle hawk]

ubuntu

weakness disgusts me

[flint bobcat]

well, do you recommend anything else?

[subtle hawk]

debian

actually ur learning the ways of linux

so ubuntu should be fine for now

[gloomy tinsel]

I use Ubuntu on desktop mainly for the convenience, Fedora on laptop

[flint bobcat]

this is a cloud server tho

[subtle hawk]

Arch on laptop/desktop, Debian/RHEL/Windows Server on servers

the gaming rig and macbook are exceptions

[subtle hawk]

gaming rig

😆

[subtle hawk]

keep telling urself that

[gloomy tinsel]

I ordered a powerline kit, but it took forever to arrive, so I ended up getting my refund and moving on.

Guess what arrived in the mail today?

Woo, free powerline kit. I don't even know what I'm going to do with it now. The problem that it was supposed to be used for is already solved.

[subtle hawk]

powerline is garbage

[gloomy tinsel]

It's ok-ish depending on your wiring and how you use it

but mesh Wi-Fi proved better for the problem I was trying to solve anyway

Still, free powerline

[umbral onyx]

Hmm

I'm making a game due to my school

But I probably need testers someday

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

@umbral onyx

[compact cloud]

mmm new iPhone 11 Pro is even more power efficient

but it still has ways to go before battery life will be decent enough

[subtle hawk]

still an iphone

not something I'll ever consider looking at

[compact cloud]

I'm more of a both worlds user at this point

mostly Apple though

but that's only regarding mobiles :P

camera is fucking great tho

nobody in their right mind will deny that

[severe falcon]

meanwhile ARM is laughing in all phones use our designs

[compact cloud]

tfw they're showing off how great it is to film films on iPhone

[severe falcon]

i hate when people talk about the cameras

cuz they have no idea WHY its better

or how to use its betterness

[compact cloud]

tbh yeah most people don't even know how to shoot properly

[severe falcon]

yeah but just get a digital camera

[compact cloud]

then they end up with blurred af photos and complain why they don't get the result just as in ads

[severe falcon]

my grandpa got one several years ago for deer hunting

hes not even that good at photography

it had a 40x digital zoom

[compact cloud]

Lol

[subtle hawk]

Thanks for the support @compact cloud

[severe falcon]

so he took a pic fully zoomed in on the deer's face

[compact cloud]

oh where did you come from

xD

[severe falcon]

you could see our hunting blind against the sunset in the reflection of its eye

and this was like a $100 canon camera

didnt even mess with settings

[compact cloud]

cheap cameras got much better in recent years

[subtle hawk]

@compact cloud >camera is great

laughs in samsung

[compact cloud]

theirs is cool

but not better

[subtle hawk]

definitely better

[severe falcon]

you have to define better

[subtle hawk]

aight

lemme go look up side by side samples

[severe falcon]

i meant more with technical stuff

[compact cloud]

photos isn't all there is to a camera

[severe falcon]

cuz we literally dont have enough resolution on the monitors to fully look at the pictures in their max quality

[compact cloud]

and I've seen comparisons already

they're pretty close

but still there's a difference

[severe falcon]

is it the full photos though?

the full 16 MP or whatever photos?

[compact cloud]

I didn't look at full, there was a noticeable color difference just from the first look

[subtle hawk]

the difference is that iphone photos lack in sharpness and details

[severe falcon]

isnt it because iphones use a half pixel thing to make larger photos?

[subtle hawk]

nah

[compact cloud]

well anyway I don't want to argue nor I can but I'm not gonna change my opinion

[severe falcon]

yamato are those the full photos?

[subtle hawk]

looking for them

can't bloody find a side by side one

[severe falcon]

but youre saying they actually do post the full like 16 MP images side by side?

its not just the edited fake comparisons on most websites?

[subtle hawk]

ye

on trusted review sites that is

[severe falcon]

ok

[subtle hawk]

people out here thinking samsung cameras are different but can’t explain why photo quality on snapchat is doo doo on their devices

/s

(yes i’m aware it’s a long running compatibility error on the dev’s side that makes the app take a screenshot of what’s being presented on the device instead of actually using the camera)

[compact cloud]

Lol

what kind of error is that even

[subtle hawk]

them being dumb

anyway I give up on finding it

[compact cloud]

ye don't bother

[severe falcon]

ah you misunderstand the general user, they just want to KNOW that there is a difference, they dont care if there is one or not, placebo effect means they are right

[subtle hawk]

but I know for a fact by looking at pictures taken by my sister's XS max and my S10+ that apple loves to do overprocessing on their images

without giving you an option to turn it off

[compact cloud]

that is true

[severe falcon]

tbh i wish they did NO processing

[compact cloud]

they fine tune it until it seems perfect for them

[subtle hawk]

samsung on the other hand has a on the HUD toggle for it

[compact cloud]

but that's fine for almost every iPhone user out there

[severe falcon]

especially not the movement cancelling thing

[subtle hawk]

that's fine for almost every iPhone user
aaaah

see

that's the apple mentality

that "Apple knows best"

[severe falcon]

when you watch a video on a phone and it visibly distorts because the phone moved slightly and accel detected it moved like 4 miles away

[subtle hawk]

if they want to do processing that's fine by me

but atleast give me an option to turn it off or keep an original image around

[compact cloud]

yeah Android is supposed to be for the so called "power users" because of its "open nature"

[subtle hawk]

not for power users necesarily

[severe falcon]

but yamato, options are the work of the devil, you cant trust a user to know what they want, you have to give them what you know they want

[compact cloud]

on iOS you can gtfo unless you're jailbroken basically

[subtle hawk]

and both huawei and samsung proved it with their simplified mode for elderly and kids

[severe falcon]

but simplified shouldnt restrict anything

they should just make it have larger buttons and easier to read

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon yeah but when my own phone does unnecessary photoshopping of my images just because it thinks I want that? that's a big no no for me

[severe falcon]

im fairly certain the jitterbug phone had the same capability as any phone at that time

oh yamato i meant the biggest /s on that paragraph i posted

[subtle hawk]

yeah simplified mode removes the app drawer and makes all apps shown at all times

it's small tweaks and changes

that techinically speaking doesn't limit you

[severe falcon]

im with you on the options debate

wait all apps shown at all times?

[subtle hawk]

it just condenses down the settings and options into more intuitive sections

yes

[severe falcon]

thats not how you do it

you make the actuall app sizes bigger

[compact cloud]

I wonder when enough time will pass that there will be even less and less not tech-savvy people
well I mean not that everyone will get interested in deep shit but that there will be almost no people left who wouldn't know at least computer basics

[severe falcon]

like 9 or maybe even 6 per page

[subtle hawk]

it does allow for changing of the icon size

[severe falcon]

and then you can still have the drawers

[subtle hawk]

but it displays all installed apps at all times

[severe falcon]

thats so stupid

WHY ARENT DEVS LAZIER

i wouldve just made the icons resizeable in the current interface

[subtle hawk]

well try to explain to grandma that to access smth else outside of the home apps you need to swipe vertically from the bottom to bring up the app drawer

and find it

[severe falcon]

oh i thought app drawer meant the app folders

[compact cloud]

yeah exactly that

kids these days know all about how to do that and more

[severe falcon]

i thought you meant it removes all the app folders so you just have every single app on the phone on the home screen

[subtle hawk]

it just shows this at all times

and you can only swipe left or right to see the apps

[compact cloud]

I see what you got there 👀

[severe falcon]

uhhhh

[subtle hawk]

doe it's a bit big brain and it infinitely scrolls

[severe falcon]

see i get there with this app called "apps"

and its on the special line of apps that are always at the bottom

though mine still has pages there

tbh i liked windows phone system better

but im a computer nerd so i think thats why

[subtle hawk]

and by infinite scroll I mean if u reach the first page or last page it will go back to the first/last one if you keep scrolling in the same direction

[severe falcon]

oh

mine doesnt but honestly that sounds like its a two line change to get it to work

does c# have the segfault error?

[subtle hawk]

I mean if u do illegal stuf ye

[severe falcon]

ah

so my unity class WONT give me PTSD

i see the words "segmentation fault" on cmd and then i pass out for an hour, next thing i know i have a linked list of binary trees

[compact cloud]

C? is there a reason you went with C and not CPP?

[subtle hawk]

because C is better at memory management

as in it gives u fine control over it

[severe falcon]

just use assembly /s

also the DNS server at my work had a heart attack for like 20 mins and then it just came back to life

[subtle hawk]

inb4 BIND

xd

[valid acorn]

Is it me or is the iPhone 11/11 pro trailers are overrated

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk you madman

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

samsung

what are you laughing at

I have that

[valid acorn]

I need someone here to see if my game is showing as a playing status later (or someone who has their game launcher update the latest version 4.1.03.3)

[violet nexus]

who's using stormwall/stormsense here ?

i wanna ask some questions

[gloomy tinsel]

Hey look another one
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/weakness-in-intel-chips-lets-researchers-steal-encrypted-ssh-keystrokes/

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave Model M came in today

... it works, except

the space bar, b/m, question mark, right alt, and left/down/right arrows don’t send any scan codes

sigh either something went wrong with the membrane

and that specific matrix

or I have to bolt mod it

pain

[stone wave]

mine was like that it can result from the springs coming dislodged

they need to be seated in the exact position

what holds the spring assemblies in place is the barrel frame so reseating the springs with the barrel frame on is hard

I ended up drilling out the rivets and screw modding it

[subtle hawk]

I have yet to open it up, waiting for a proper screwdriver

It’s puzzling because the individual springs themselves seem to actuate fine and dandy

And they don’t feel any different than the rest of the keys

to be entirely honest

I’ll be so relieved if it’s just in need of a rivet mod

And not anything wrong with the membrane

[stone wave]

you wont be saying that if you do a full bolt mod

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave Update: It was a coffee spill

time to clean the membrane!

and well, bolt mod it

wish me luck

[flint bobcat]

is there any point of getting windows insider ed?

[valid acorn]

The education OS?

Probably no point of getting it, it's just fixes every 2-3 weeks

[flint bobcat]

nono

insider endition

[valid acorn]

Yeah

@flint bobcat You were talking about joining the insider program with the Windows 10 Education right?

[flint bobcat]

no

not education

just insider

i have win 10 pro

[valid acorn]

Oh

I got it all wrong haven't I?

[subtle hawk]

lol you can even join it with win10 home

[valid acorn]

Every windows 10 edition has their own insider features

You need to check their update announcements via their Twitter page

I'm in the Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview (skip release)

I tend to get weekly windows defender and monthly major windows update

[severe falcon]

is it just me or is the voting website completely broken?

[severe falcon]

Yostar: makes rules about voting
also Yostar: makes the voting system NOT follow those rules

[compact cloud]

I'd not go with Insider unless there's something you really need. It's better to use a stable build.

[valid acorn]

You never know what are the new features going to be

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon it's broken if your phone is rotated in landscape

[subtle hawk]

yes you do

they always announce the new features

[violet nexus]

This nexus switches need to enable some features

Gahd

This is somewhat different from other switch

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk just wondering, but is it possible to be banned from a specific clubroom?

[carmine raven]

heya lads

today i got some weird noises

it happened twice

theres like a "surge" of sound (sounds kinda like what you get when you plug in a headset and get that pop, but its boosted) it lasts like half a second

i got a pair of beyerdynamics dt770 pro's and a asus xonar dgx soundcard

[gloomy tinsel]

tsched=0 seems to be the stock answer to a lot of PulseAudio issues

[carmine raven]

it just happened again but to a much lesser degree

[flint bobcat]

when you go back to c++ from python and you keep forgetting semicolon

[vagrant holly]

[subtle hawk]

Been seeing a lot more Python lately @flint bobcat

Especially on Azure, which is shocking since MS is dotnet. Weird shit

[flint bobcat]

🤔

[subtle hawk]

But MS has been doing some questionable shit for a while now.

Namely releasing new technologies without a corresponding SDK(in favor of APIs attached to resources), so you're at the behest of whatever API versioning they decide to shove down your throat. /endrant

[severe falcon]

So my scumbag of an isp apparently has a new method od legally scamming everyone. They have started basically turning off all residential internet service at 9pm every night

They keep it at just enough to where you OS thinks everything is fine in troubleshooting, but not enough to load a single website in 20 mins

[violet nexus]

Cloud

[flint bobcat]

bruh

[severe falcon]

Oh look now my 100 mbps internet is back to running at full speed: 7 mbps

[flint bobcat]

why not call them

[severe falcon]

Because its in their agreement

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

Their terms say they can basically deny you service and you cant do anything

And they are the only isp in the area cuz they bought out the rest

[flint bobcat]

jsut leave them

[severe falcon]

Physically cannot

[subtle hawk]

use sat internet

hit up ya boi elon for some of that starlink shit

[severe falcon]

I live in texas, satellite stuff goes out on a daily basis

Although im not sure the price comparison on the maximum unlimited data plan vs normal phone plan + cable internet

Cuz i will tell you right now, mobile data might be slower, but its 150k% more reliable

[flint bobcat]

@subtle hawk what isp do you use

[subtle hawk]

why would you want to know that

[severe falcon]

Well yamato has stuff i legally cant get here

[flint bobcat]

because i want good internet, thats why

[severe falcon]

Like my isp saves its reliability for businesses only with its 1 gbps

[subtle hawk]

like 10Gbits dedicated wavelength in the fiber

you won't find my ISP anywhere but my country

[severe falcon]

Max residential is 150 mbps but its literally the same speed as 50 mbps

[flint bobcat]

US has some shit ISPs

[subtle hawk]

yesterday I went and clapped my ISP engineers for trying to do shit with 1.1.1.1

[severe falcon]

No the us has some shit anti-monopoly and anti-abusive ToS laws

[subtle hawk]

no the us has some shit laws

[severe falcon]

Like one of the terms is that you cannot be credited if you use the service while the service is impaired

[flint bobcat]

also i looked up starlink, looks interesting

[subtle hawk]

I mean technically you can aquire the starlink signal rn

you just won't be able to decode it

[severe falcon]

And you need clouds that dont mess the signal up

[flint bobcat]

i mean, like, when it hits consumer market in US

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon don't make urself dumb

clouds don't obstruct sat communication

[severe falcon]

Is it not like satellite TV?

[subtle hawk]

the signals are so high energy only a thunderstorm can actually affect them

[severe falcon]

texas

As soon as fall hits, BOI the thunderstorms will be upon us

[subtle hawk]

nuke the clouds

[severe falcon]

The sun tries to but still cant

[flint bobcat]

im happy fall and winter is coming

[severe falcon]

Heres the thing, i honestly dont really care as much about internet speed as i do reliability

[subtle hawk]

as jon snow always said

winter is coming

[severe falcon]

Like id be fine with my 7 mbps as long as it never faltered

Also @subtle hawk please explain how task manager decides the network stuff, cuz it always says my internet is like 0.01% utilization

[subtle hawk]

just run a super long cat6 cable with tons of gigabit switches along the way from a secret jack from your nearest university, chances are they have fiber

who needs their own ISP

/s

better off using a fiber run then

with repeaters

[severe falcon]

I mean if i really wanted to, id just go buy an external hard drive and download whatever i needed at work

[subtle hawk]

it calculates the usage based on the link available to it from the router

[severe falcon]

Ah and since im using wifi, the router has no clue what the speed actually is

[subtle hawk]

bullshit

network devices always handshake a link speed

[severe falcon]

I mean it fluctuates from 85 mbps to 300 mbps, the isp says i get 100 mbps, but ive never seen more than 32 mbps ever

[subtle hawk]

the link between you and the router isn't ur internet speed

[severe falcon]

Well the link speed is currently spazzing between 15 and 150

[subtle hawk]

my phone at home negotiates a gigabit uplink to the wireless access point bit that doesn't mean it's gonna run at gigabit

[severe falcon]

So youre saying wifi naturally fluctuates like that?

[subtle hawk]

ofc

it's wifi after all

^

[severe falcon]

Ok but like WHY does it fluctuate so much?

[subtle hawk]

also why the mantra for many business/enterprise settings is "if a device can be wired, it will be wired"

I can go into specifics how the signal propagates through the air and how it bounces around but that would be boring

because wired is the best option

little risk of being tapped

and minimal interference

[severe falcon]

Like why is my router sending bits at 300 mbps when its only getting 7 mbps of actual data?

[subtle hawk]

oh I knew that, was just mentioning it

because it's a router

[severe falcon]

Like i know they communicate constantly

[subtle hawk]

your outbound traffic isn't the only thing it does

like my traffic is 60% in the local network

and 40% outbound

[severe falcon]

I mean until recently, devices couldnt even talk to each other with the router

[subtle hawk]

sgain

bullshit

[severe falcon]

Yeah the setting was disabling communication between devices

[subtle hawk]

they need to talk to the router to aquire a DHCP lease and route their packets around

[severe falcon]

I meant to EACH OTHER like my phone talking to my computer through the router

[subtle hawk]

if u want the most speed then just connect ur modem directly to pc and call it a day

[severe falcon]

So bypass the router entirely?

[subtle hawk]

ye

[severe falcon]

I didnt know you could do that

[subtle hawk]

ofc u can

but you won't have wifi anymore

or any other network devices

[severe falcon]

I mean i have unlimited data so yeet

All i need is my phone and comp

[subtle hawk]

I haven't been using a normal router for a while now

cause most prebuilt routers would die instantly to the load I put on it

I've been using powerline for a while but that's only because I physically can't have the modem in my room downside of still living at home instead of dorming at uni

[severe falcon]

Now all i gotta do is wait for walmart to di the wrong prices again so i can get cheap hdds

[subtle hawk]

and yes, I get that powerline can be pretty divisive

powerline is so aaaaaaids

prone to electrical interference depending on the circuit, blah blah blah but for a 1980s house with probably 1980s wiring it works bloody well

still would take a genuine wired connection if I could though

I someone could literally clap ur connection if they live nearby

and they're one the same power line

[severe falcon]

prone to electrical interference
This reminds me of the time i was messing with my headohone cable, and when i made it a loop i could hear my fan's motor super loud through the headohones

[subtle hawk]

that also reminds me as well of old keyboards back in the day with huge sheets behind the PCB or a grounded spacebar to prevent EMI

i mean, this was during a time where everyone used CRTs i guess it made sense... if you think about it

having some giant electron cannon pointed at you all day

keyboards didn't use that for EMI smh

those aren't some modern RGB keyboards with logic inside

all they did was close a circuit that signaled a interrupt to the pc

those metal plates were put it for rigidity

[severe falcon]

For SLAMMING that spacebar

[violet nexus]

@severe falcon does that 100mbps internet speed encountered problems?

ToS was built because they just want to save some money

[severe falcon]

More like steal money

100mbps and the highest recorded actual service speed was 32, normal is 5-10

And this is over the course of 5+ years

[violet nexus]

How many bandwidth did you subscribe thou

[severe falcon]

100

Thats what the plan states

[violet nexus]

Did the internet go down?

You said that it just came back

[severe falcon]

Yeah a while ago

Well not down

It was in just enough that the OS said everything was fine, but no websites could load

[violet nexus]

You just got disconnected a few minutes and then it suddenly came back?

[severe falcon]

No i was connected the whole time

[subtle hawk]

sounds like you need custom DNS address

[severe falcon]

And this happened the past 2 nights aswell

[subtle hawk]

unless they do firewall shit

no even

his router will always say the link is up

[severe falcon]

Like when the internet actually goes down, its different

And its visible on the modem lights

[flint bobcat]

@subtle hawk does this relate to a three-way handshake?

[subtle hawk]

no

[flint bobcat]

🤔

[subtle hawk]

SYN

SYN, ACK

ACK

[violet nexus]

@severe falcon perform a traceroute

just want to validate something

@flint bobcat SIP is a 3 way handshake

[flint bobcat]

[violet nexus]

Im not good at theories but im sure this is 3 way handshake

[subtle hawk]

it works like TLS

it establishes a tunnel that other services use for their crap

[violet nexus]

Ohh i see

I wish i didnt sleep at class during theories

[flint bobcat]

ooh ok

[flint bobcat]

mfw

there is so many resource records in dns databases that i have to learn

fuck

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

@flint bobcat You planning to take Net+?

[flint bobcat]

of course

[subtle hawk]

lots and lots of port numbers

little to no ipv4 subnetting for 007 as well

quite a hefty amount of sims

[violet nexus]

its just a portion aria

you can do it

1-65535 ports

[subtle hawk]

Can never forget the legendary Nice! port

TFTP

[violet nexus]

ftp is my best friend

yes

tftp also

snmp also

thanks snmp

fuck telnet

[subtle hawk]

Who uses telnet in 2019

either direct console through serial or ssh

[violet nexus]

us

because im lazy

[subtle hawk]

[violet nexus]

why did i want to direct console to a switch that is 25km away from my location

@subtle hawk teach me bgp pls

[subtle hawk]

first you’ll need to make sure your neighbor discovery/acknowledgment is on

so we can propagate

[violet nexus]

same AS number on both neighbors ?

iirc i need to have same AS number to the neighbor one

[flint bobcat]

well i got till december

to study

so i think im fine

[violet nexus]

yes yes

have faith in yourself

that's what my seniors always tell to me

[subtle hawk]

you all disappoint me

[onyx tendon]

yo guys can I ask about laptop performance problems here

[subtle hawk]

yes

[valid acorn]

Sure

From AMD Ryzen to the Intel i9

[onyx tendon]

You see my laptop has gotten a problem starting a few months ago where it would slow down suddenly for a short duration and then go back to normal speed again, I checked a bit in task manager and found out that it is caused by a sudden decrease in CPU speed, why does this happen? Should I get it checked in a shop? This problem occurs more frequently while playing games and even more frequent on bluestacks

[subtle hawk]

hmm

the sudden drop in clock speed could be from thermals

or lack of current

[onyx tendon]

my laptop is always charged btw

[subtle hawk]

with the original charger?

[onyx tendon]

Yeah

[subtle hawk]

does it get uncomfortably hot?

or do you use it in bed?

[onyx tendon]

i do place my laptop on top of a laptop fan and its currently a bit warm

[subtle hawk]

get something like HWmonitor to check temps

and if it reaches upper 80s to 90s then that might be the cause

the CPU and/or GPU can clock down if the cooling system can't handle it

[onyx tendon]

can I check with MSI Afterburner? I currently have it installed

[subtle hawk]

yeah but I recommend something than can monitor them in number form

[onyx tendon]

my temperatures look like this

its running bluestacks and goes up to max while starting a battle

in AL

[valid acorn]

How old is your laptop

[onyx tendon]

around 3 years or so

maybe i should get it checked

[subtle hawk]

probably

the heatsink might be clogged with dust

[onyx tendon]

should i clean it myself or get help from a professional

[valid acorn]

^^ one of the possibilities
The other might be aged

You can do it yourself

[gloomy tinsel]

Yeah, laptops tend to get gunky over time without cleaning

Cleaning it yourself depends on your comfort level and the difficulty of the laptop

Some laptops come apart easily, others are literally held together in places with glue

[subtle hawk]

or mine that has torx screws

[valid acorn]

[gloomy tinsel]

Macs are some of the worst offenders

[valid acorn]

coughs Apple

[subtle hawk]

coughs Apple

[subtle hawk]

well

due to a small pipe leak I lost 2 drives and a entire backplane

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh shit

That sucks

Though I gotta ask where the pipe was relative to the equipment

[subtle hawk]

literally on top of the server rack

[gloomy tinsel]

Exposed pipes tho .-.

[subtle hawk]

it's in the ceiling

and it's cracked

[gloomy tinsel]

I see

[subtle hawk]

long story

but the damages are in the 1k to 2k range

if not more

@gloomy tinsel have some HDD gore

[gloomy tinsel]

Aaaaaa

@subtle hawk speaking of gore, have you seen the guy who drilled a hole in his 980 Ti

[subtle hawk]

@subtle hawk ehh just throw some rubbing alcohol on it it’ll work

I wish

that thing is DEAD

I hope you guys had ample amounts of redundancy

[gloomy tinsel]

It's Yamato, of course he does :P

[tame topaz]

Meanwhile my laptop is running at a searing 80 degrees at all times (including just normal internet browsing)

note: it's probably around 8 years old at this point

[subtle hawk]

sounds like my old laptop

[tame topaz]

problem is I have no way to open it

There are some screws on the back but I'd have to pry the assembly open to reveal the components

So I will have to get it professionally cleaned some time

[severe falcon]

hold on, 80 at normal browsing?

bruh that laptop is toast

unless its intel

[valid acorn]

"Unless its Intel"
Nice words

[severe falcon]

i mean old AMD cpus have a max rated temp of 70

thats why only an intel wouldnt be ruined at that

[subtle hawk]

well

the total losses are at about 1500$

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

[tame topaz]

@severe falcon it's intel

Currently the room ambient is 27 and it's still 80

[valid acorn]

[pulsar saddle]

I had my 6yo AMD cpu go up to 90-92 when compiling stuff and it didn't die

(yet)

[tame topaz]

oof

I need to get this thing cleaned

and soon

[valid acorn]

My laptop automatically shut down itself when its too hot (and too humid). Probably to save itself from catching fire I guess

[tame topaz]

most likely

[subtle hawk]

well there goes my paycheck

[tame topaz]

My CPU is Arrandale so like it's 9 years old by this point

[valid acorn]

I didn't monitor the temperature, but the humidity was like 90%, and it (the laptop) shutdown quickly. Probably the processor reached 55°C

[tame topaz]

This thing is quite the POS now honestly

8 years old, runs super hot all the time with a really shitty battery life

no way to upgrade RAM even

Stuck at 4 gigs

[valid acorn]

Can you change from HDD to SATA SSD?

[tame topaz]

Probably not.

Most likely no space.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/WfxV-aJjEnc/maxresdefault.jpg

Its guts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ucOBtUcS5w

Ah, so I actually can!

Alright, I'll consider.

Might as well try to extend this thing's life for like 2 years before I ditch it and replace.

[valid acorn]

My dad replace the HDD on my laptop to a Samsung EVO 850 SSD SATA

[tame topaz]

My PC is running a Kingston A400 and man does it make all the difference

[valid acorn]

HDD compared to SSD

Obviously there are a lot of differences between them

[tame topaz]

Yeah

May grab a 240 or 480 depending on budget allowance

[severe falcon]

If my dell laptop didnt have an emergency temp shutdown, i think i couldve boiled water with it

90 degrees while playing terraria with it sitting on a fan mat

[gloomy tinsel]

Old AMD CPUs did have some low thermal limits, Ryzen can officially go to 95C

@valid acorn @severe falcon