technology

[stone wave]

yeah

you can tweak when you restart

anyways I wouldn't OC until you get that new PSU

cause like Yamato said

[flint bobcat]

right

Also it's frozen why

Won't let me input

[stone wave]

you mean tis not letting you load default values?

[flint bobcat]

When I press f2, nothing happens

[stone wave]

you can run setup

all that does is load you into the BIOS

its POSTing so it's not like anything too serious ought to have happened

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-on_self-test

[flint bobcat]

It doesn't let me press that to

[stone wave]

is your keyboard plugged into the mobo

or a hub?

[flint bobcat]

Yeah

Should I maybe restart?

[stone wave]

try it

weird cause its detecting your keyboard where it says USB Device total: 1 KBD

[flint bobcat]

Oh ok

NVM

I restarted and it's loading me into windows now

[stone wave]

computer things

[flint bobcat]

Well it's fixed now

Thanks for advise

[stone wave]

mm hmm

[subtle hawk]

yeah, trying to oc with pre-built psu

and half the cpu power cables plugged in

[severe falcon]

my 2nd work comp wont leave BIOS if i dont have a keyboard plugged in

[subtle hawk]

typical of old bios

"Keyboard not detected. Press F1 to continue."

[severe falcon]

it also has a mobo speaker on it so it beeps agrily at me when that happens

[subtle hawk]

lol

I think I replaced my mobo's buzzer with a tiny speaker

and did this https://twitter.com/pigdevil2010/status/1142093257683304448?s=19

boring

try to make it do that on POST

[subtle hawk]

as expected

I can't set it to repeat my uni network

at least I can set it to repeat my pc's connection

[subtle hawk]

yes

I did it

after almost 5 hours 😆

mostly me overcomplicating myself

[severe falcon]

that sounds like two days ago when i messed around with an algorithm for 8 hours only to solve the issue in 5 mins at the end.
the entire program changed by 2 whole lines and 10 characters

[subtle hawk]

this is my network setup right now

just to make my nintendo switch connect to uni internet

doesn't the switch allow for 802.1X?

nope, it's grayed out

hmm

it seems it doesn't have that protocol implemented

mine is whitelisted on my 802.1X network

so it has no problem

also hm I should narrow the subnet size for pc to router connection

[severe falcon]

i mean i took a networking class but we didnt ever go over the flavors of wifi

[flint bobcat]

so can i remove my hdd, install clean windows on your ssd, connect the hdd again and move my stuff from hdd to ssd?

[stone wave]

err you can connect the SSD without removing your HDD

then clone it over to the SSD

[flint bobcat]

woah what

[stone wave]

I don't recall the exact procedure when the drive being cloned is larger than the target drive

[flint bobcat]

its the same sizes

[stone wave]

oh lol

[flint bobcat]

500GB HDD and SSD

[stone wave]

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

[severe falcon]

wait are you trying ti install windows on SSD and then transfer the hdd files over?

[flint bobcat]

yeah

well mith showed a diff way

[stone wave]

you can also just install windows 10 on the ssd

cause with the ssd its like 15 minutes maybe?

[flint bobcat]

fast

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave wtf

[stone wave]

?

[subtle hawk]

is that garbage software

fuking

[severe falcon]

well it depends on what your win10 is on

laughs in floppy discs

[subtle hawk]

https://clonezilla.org/

like

[stone wave]

Windows 95 on floppy

[subtle hawk]

c'mon bruh

[stone wave]

I don't really clone drives lol

if it works its all the same to me if im honest

[subtle hawk]

it does bit by bit cloning

even optimizes cloning for SSDs

[severe falcon]

wait there are things that DONT do bit by bit cloning?

[stone wave]

can Aria use it easily?

[subtle hawk]

ye

shitty cloning software on windows

that does it by block

[severe falcon]

but if you asked me to write a cloning software, thats how my inexperienced mind would do it

for i in width:
for j in height:
ssd[i][j] = hdd[i][j]

[flint bobcat]

kek

[stone wave]

which ever works for you Aria

you could also just do a fresh Windows install

[subtle hawk]

^ better

[severe falcon]

well im guessing the problem is that said hdd has windows on it

[subtle hawk]

just do a clean install

so that old drivers and firmware doesn't bloat the system

[severe falcon]

but that doesnt solve the problem of win10 and non system hdd files all on the SSD

[flint bobcat]

ok yeah, ill just do clean insteall

since its the easiest for me

[stone wave]

remember to change the boot order to the SSD

[severe falcon]

wait am i missing something

[stone wave]

and to format the HDD

[severe falcon]

BUT ISNT THE POINT TO SAVE THE INFO ON THE HDD?

[stone wave]

he did a fresh install of windows yesterday on that HDD

[flint bobcat]

wdym format hdd

[severe falcon]

so the hdd is just windows?

[stone wave]

and whatever R18 stuff Aria put on it

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

ah ok i got it now

[flint bobcat]

alright

[subtle hawk]

or u know

not plug the drive in while u install windows

[flint bobcat]

it did arrive, but the mail key isnt with me

well im gonna take it out, the hdd

[subtle hawk]

aria did u activate ur windows 10 while it was tied to ur MS acc?

[severe falcon]

yamato, that kindof thing usually goes wrong for me

[flint bobcat]

its an OEM key i bought for $3

[subtle hawk]

I'll take that as a yes

then it should auto activate the moment u add ur MS acc

[severe falcon]

like installing the mobo's drivers from its CD ended up making it unable to use more than one hard drive

[flint bobcat]

oh, im using a local account, not a MS acc

[subtle hawk]

smh

big dum

[flint bobcat]

should i change

[subtle hawk]

probably

with a MS acc is also backs up a lot of ur windows settings

and preferences

including wallpapers

[stone wave]

or back to plan A and throw CloneZilla on to a USB drive

[severe falcon]

oh and then it randomly decided to start working and recognize other hdds

[flint bobcat]

wait i thought you cant transfer OEM keys, which they are 1 time use

[subtle hawk]

no

they're only tied to the same system

like any other windows license

[flint bobcat]

oh so i can transfer?

[subtle hawk]

duuh

[flint bobcat]

i really dont want to reinstall all the games i have

took a while

[stone wave]

just clone it then i suppose

[severe falcon]

oh so i just figured out that my script pressing scroll lock twice every 6 seconds actually breaks ctrl, alt, and shift if you are holding them when it does it

now its every 60 seconds

[umbral onyx]

I still have my bucky hug minigame

what do?

[severe falcon]

wait what

[umbral onyx]

https://youtu.be/y2zr1aGDs3o

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave got your package now

[stone wave]

[flint bobcat]

wait did u include a bracket

[stone wave]

bracket?

[flint bobcat]

like to mount it

[stone wave]

err no i didnt have one on hand

you meant he ssd right?

[flint bobcat]

oh can i install without bracket

[stone wave]

yeah

[flint bobcat]

yeah for the ssd

[stone wave]

or you can take it out of the enclosure

and install it as a m.2 SSD

[flint bobcat]

can i install it with enclosure, since it looks easier

[stone wave]

yeah

you need a SATA cable and power just like your HDD

you can let it hang loose

no harm since it has no moving parts in it

you can just tape it if you're paranoid

the screw driver i taped to the side is just if you need to open the enclosure

[flint bobcat]

This thing?

[stone wave]

yeah

[flint bobcat]

how about the longer pin

[stone wave]

you need the longer one for power

[flint bobcat]

can i use my HDD's connector?

[stone wave]

if you dont want to bother just take it out of the enclosure

you can or you can run 2 drives

for more stroage

[flint bobcat]

ill use 1

[stone wave]

literally doesn't even use cables

[flint bobcat]

is it hard to install without enclosure?

[stone wave]

i say easier

you might have to lay the case on its side

[flint bobcat]

Ok

[stone wave]

loosen that screw

but don't take it out

(no harm if you do but it's easier to not remove it)

[flint bobcat]

I'll brb, sorry, have the help my mom for a min

[stone wave]

kk

[flint bobcat]

Ok we back

I want to remove my HDD altogether, cause it's kind of gonna bug me

[stone wave]

ok

you can just unplug the HDD and leave it where it is

Anyways loosen that screw and seat the m.2 SSD in the slot at an angle.

(the SSD goes sticker side up)

Then push down, if it doesn't clear the screw you can just take the screw out all the way.

And then just screw the m.2 SSD in place.

[severe falcon]

my wallet hurts just looking at how delicate that is

[stone wave]

Easier than fucking with annoying ass cables.

They're pretty cheap now the non NVME ones

about the same as 2.5" SATA SSDs in terms of $ per GB

[severe falcon]

i know but why not have the connection on the long side

having it on the short side is asking for something bad to happen

[flint bobcat]

This thing?

[stone wave]

yea

[flint bobcat]

Ok I opened the ssd

[stone wave]

unscrew the m.2 from the enclosure

and it should tilt upwards then just pull it out

[flint bobcat]

Got it out

[stone wave]

same thing but in reverse to install it

[flint bobcat]

Wat

[stone wave]

loosen the screw in your mobo

[flint bobcat]

Ok

[stone wave]

third hole from the slot has a knurled thumb screw looks like

you use your fingers

[flint bobcat]

Ye

I unscrewed

[stone wave]

place the m.2 SSD in the slot at an angle

then push down on it

and screw it in

[flint bobcat]

Wait do I take out the screw

[stone wave]

which ever

[flint bobcat]

Like this?

[stone wave]

yeah

[flint bobcat]

o

[stone wave]

easier when you don't have a graphics card

[flint bobcat]

Lol

So I need to reinstall Windows onto it

Or can I just transfer mywhole hhd to ssd

[stone wave]

which ever

[flint bobcat]

I want to keep my data

[stone wave]

just turn on your computer like normal

it should boot into windows since the SSD is empty

if you want to compare your HDD and your SSD run CrystalDiskMark on em and stare in amazement.
https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskmark/

But anyways from there throw CloneZilla on a USB flash drive and boot into CloneZilla and clone the drive

IDK the specifics but follow a YouTube guide or bug Yamato about it.

Cause I never bother to clone drives and just slap on a fresh Windows install instead.

I think the CloneZilla download is a disk image

so grab Etcher to write it to a flash drive

[flint bobcat]

Wut

[stone wave]

lol thats why i recommended a software solution

https://www.clonezilla.org/downloads/download.php?branch=stable#debian-cpu-arch

then use https://www.techspot.com/downloads/6931-etcher.html

to write to a flash drive

boot into the flash drive

and from there i hope you can figure it out

[flint bobcat]

wait why a flash drive

[stone wave]

you can burn it to a disc

[flint bobcat]

wont that take long

[stone wave]

yeah

[flint bobcat]

since my flashdrive is slow

[stone wave]

lol

[flint bobcat]

why cant i just use clonezilla

[stone wave]

cause clonezilla is a live CD type of deal

you have to boot into it

thats why i took the lazy route and recommended you software

[flint bobcat]

whats the better route

[stone wave]

technically clonezilla

but more steps

software you just install that shit like any program

click a few buttons and walk away for half an hour or whatever

[flint bobcat]

can i do that

instead

[stone wave]

lol

yea

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

click home use

[flint bobcat]

idk why my inet speed is so fckn garbage

[stone wave]

arent you using some shit wifi dongle

[flint bobcat]

ye

it used to be fast tho

now 30sec for 5mb

[stone wave]

can you not run it through ethernet?

[flint bobcat]

router is in my parents room

[stone wave]

get a long ass cable

[stone wave]

100ft is like $10

yea

you can also get a wifi repeater, not going to be as fast as a hardwire connection and it'll add latency

but you can get the cheaper ones for like $25

I actually have one that i don't use any more too so

[subtle hawk]

well with clonezilla it's just select drive A

select drive B

done

[flint bobcat]

Really?

[subtle hawk]

ye

[flint bobcat]

How

[subtle hawk]

I can boot clonezilla in a VM to show u

[flint bobcat]

Oh in a vm

[subtle hawk]

well I don't need to clone a drive rn

so why would I actually boot from it

[stone wave]

the dl was an ISO

i never used that shit so i cant explain it

[subtle hawk]

it's piss ez

[flint bobcat]

ok now what

[stone wave]

doesn't it require a live environment?

click the clone this disk burtton

*button

[stone wave]

yeah

just hit next

and it should do its thing

you can try clonezilla

but yamato would have to walk you through it

[stone wave]

since im not in a position to install it to see how its like rn

yeah sure

XML file should take up any room

[stone wave]

teah

yeah

that drive is empty anyway

[flint bobcat]

yay

thanks

now this is gonna take long

[subtle hawk]

MBR

NOT LIKE THIS

[flint bobcat]

huh

[subtle hawk]

and it's a SSD

[flint bobcat]

did i do something wrong

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/sh90y.png

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/n0ggw.png

[stone wave]

you can walk him through that if you want

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/26dv8.png

[flint bobcat]

im already cloning tho

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/kmxud.png

[stone wave]

i got to step away from the computer for a bit

[subtle hawk]

and from there it will go automatically

[flint bobcat]

u should put that in a imgur album so i can pin that shit here

[subtle hawk]

you go do that

and ye

bad idea to copy that HDD to the SSD

it uses a outdated af partitioning system

MBR or Master Boot Record has been used since the dawn of HDDs

up until Win 7 era

now all SSDs and HDDs use GPT

or GUID Partition Table

[flint bobcat]

@subtle hawk should I cancel and do clean install

[subtle hawk]

probably

I mean

after u do a clean install

u can just copy what u need from the old drive

reformat it

and use it for storage

[flint bobcat]

Wait where is the drive

It's gone

[subtle hawk]

which one

[flint bobcat]

Ssd

[subtle hawk]

it got repartitioned

it's just not mounted

[flint bobcat]

Uh

Now what

[subtle hawk]

you can still proceed

get USB, make windows install on USB, run that

[flint bobcat]

Already have it

[subtle hawk]

well then boot from it

and make sure only the SSD is plugged into the pc

[flint bobcat]

Ah ok

[subtle hawk]

you don't want the HDD to be interfering

[flint bobcat]

So I can transfer my files after by plugging it back in

?

[subtle hawk]

ye

[flint bobcat]

Nice

Ok thanks

[subtle hawk]

and besides

[flint bobcat]

Rip my windows key tho

[subtle hawk]

new fresh install is gonna be faster than clone

[flint bobcat]

Can I just log into MS and it gets saved augo

Automatically

The key

[subtle hawk]

ye

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/a5flh.png

observe

I also have a Windows 10 Enterprise and Windows Server 2019 license on my MS acc

[flint bobcat]

Oshit it worked

Thanks

Which one do I delete

@subtle hawk

[subtle hawk]

both

it will say just Drive 0 Unallocated space

[flint bobcat]

So drive 0 and then next?

[subtle hawk]

once only one option is there ye

[flint bobcat]

Aight

[stone wave]

im back how goes it?

be sure to reinstall your favorite internet explorer tool bars.

[severe falcon]

my eyes

[stone wave]

Hi, I'm Clippy! I'm the browser assistant and my job is to help you navigate this page. Do you need assistance?

📎

[severe falcon]

tbh i wouldnt mind a modern clippy if it was an anime girl

[stone wave]

all i got is sandy

[severe falcon]

like cortana except she has a lil avatar body and isnt useless

[stone wave]

its all fun and games until the AIs take over

except now with anime girl holograms

[severe falcon]

i mean AI already took over and no one knows it yet

[stone wave]

If the AI overlords sound like anime girls and end their sentences with "desu" the weebs will turn against humanity.

Mark my words.

[severe falcon]

i mean im already gonna turn against humanity if ANY of the AIs are female. living as the pet of an AI girl sounds better than dying

[stone wave]

What if they hook us up to pods and use our brains to calculate pi all day or some shit.

[severe falcon]

arent our brains like REALLY bad at doing that with any kind of processing speed though?

[stone wave]

there are billions of us though

we'll all be one shitty cluster

and when people die they Soylent Green them

[severe falcon]

Would probably be better to use us as image processing

Theres not a computer ON THE PLANET that can process images as fast as our brains

[stone wave]

Spend the rest of your life in a pod hooked up to pipes solving captchas.

[severe falcon]

Except computers can already do that

[stone wave]

im just shit posting though

[severe falcon]

Yeah

[stone wave]

if the AI apocalypse happens i'm nope-ing the fuck out

[severe falcon]

I mean i heard from an article that US Pilots can identify a plane from a silhouette flashing for a fraction of a second

[stone wave]

i wouldnt doubt it

isnt human vision really good a peripheral vision?

anyways im gonna grab some groceries or something and head home

[severe falcon]

Same but dinner instead of groceries

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave jesus christ its fast

11BG of data in under a minute transferred

[stone wave]

Lol yea

I've been eating out too much, trying to cut back.

Wait until you see the cold boot up time aria

[flint bobcat]

the what

[stone wave]

Start up from a powered off state

[flint bobcat]

ah

[stone wave]

Its gonna spoil regular mechanical hard drives for you

Also game loading times

[flint bobcat]

mith, it already did

[stone wave]

Lol

[severe falcon]

@stone wave its not really the peripheral vision itself, its that your eye darts all over the place all the time and it just feels like your eyes dont move

[stone wave]

Eye see

[severe falcon]

Yeah but your brain can turn off your perception of those movements

[flint bobcat]

just wondering, does a new PSU increase performance

[severe falcon]

Thats why if you suddenly look at a ticking clock, the first second you see seems extra long

[stone wave]

No but in your case you need a new one to OC

[flint bobcat]

ye

im gonna OC it to like 3.7-8 GHz

[severe falcon]

Cuz your brain shuts off your perception and then fills in the lost time with the first image you see, so it lasts longer than it should

[stone wave]

That stock wraith cooler is good for a stock cooler but tis still a stock cooler

[flint bobcat]

i researched and you can do a mild OC with the wraith

[stone wave]

Also you need more ram to allocate for the integrated graphics

[flint bobcat]

right

[stone wave]

The apu works best with fast ram

[severe falcon]

Wait are you trying to OC past the boost speed?

[stone wave]

But in the end later down the road transition over to a dgpu

[flint bobcat]

atm, I'm not looking to play games right now

Just needed stronger processing power

[stone wave]

mm well the 2400g is sure better than a Haswell i3 or whatever you had earlier

And the AM4 socket leaves you room to upgrade later down the line

[subtle hawk]

@subtle hawk I don't recall my windows license being carried over my Microsoft account

can I really just activate my windows on pc by just signing in both it and my laptop that's running oem win10 home

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave are the fans that you gave me for full tower case

[stone wave]

errr any case that has provisions for 140mm fan

[flint bobcat]

hmm

https://www.amazon.com/DeepCool-MATREXX-55-Supply-Computer/dp/B07GVL3CKJ/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=DEEPCOOL+MATREXX+55+ATX+Mid-Tower+Case&qid=1563502842&s=gateway&sr=8-1

planning to get this case

[stone wave]

yeah that sfine

thats' for EATX

or the be pedantic it supports up to EATX

[tame topaz]

Matrexx 55 is nice yes

In Vietnam we have a huge, huge selection of Chinese cases

A lot of them really good-looking

[stone wave]

Basically this can support 120mm or 140mm fans.

you might need the screws for the fans if the case doesn't come with them cause i didnt send any

[flint bobcat]

yeah its fine, i have a electronics shop near me

or just home depot

[tame topaz]

No PSU shroud? That's kinda... meh for 2019 dontcha think?

[stone wave]

just ask an electronics shop for screws to mount case fans

and they should know

[flint bobcat]

mk

[stone wave]

Aria is on a budget though

[tame topaz]

Yes, under 50

Try checking Newegg too

[flint bobcat]

i have like an extreme budget pc

[tame topaz]

Newegg has quite the nice case variety

[flint bobcat]

the blue streak for the meatrexx case will match my setup

[stone wave]

https://www.amazon.com/DEEPCOOL-MATREXX-ADD-RGB-Motherboard-Pre-Installed/dp/B07JH8TVZH/

[flint bobcat]

YO

[stone wave]

its RGB addressable so just change the color

[flint bobcat]

3 stars tho

[stone wave]

its cause people thought it came with fans or something

if you read them

RGB fans are kinda expensive

[flint bobcat]

i dont even want rgb

so yeah ill buy that then

[stone wave]

IDK if your current PSU has cables long enough for that case

so keep in mind the possibility of the cables being too short

[flint bobcat]

nono, im buying a new psu with the new case

[stone wave]

cause that's an eATX full oiwer

ok

worst case scenario just buy cable extentions

anyways that case only supports up to 2 140mm fans, and only on the top

so if you want front or rear fans find some 120mm fans

but youll probably be fine

just buy em if you ever happen to need em

[flint bobcat]

i currently only have 1 rear fan

[stone wave]

lol

well its not like regular fans are that expensive

unless you go with silent, rgb or high static pressure or something

[flint bobcat]

nah, dont really care about that, your fans are good

[tame topaz]

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811853069

For 10 bucks more get this

Free shipping too

[stone wave]

wheres that stupid lian li boat case imma go link you guys that thing

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16811112533

[tame topaz]

https://www.newegg.com/black-phanteks-eclipse-p350x-atx-mid-tower/p/N82E16811854075

There's this too. 70 bucks but 10 dollar rebate

You really can't go wrong with Phanteks.

[stone wave]

Yeah I got the P600s

Aria has the 3 140mm fans I pulled from it lmao.

[violet nexus]

I like the non rgb fan

I forgot the brand

But its good

[stone wave]

Noctua?

[violet nexus]

Yes i think

[stone wave]

Corsair ML120 are also great

[violet nexus]

They dont do any rgb fans

Always color brown

[stone wave]

oh yeah thats Noctua

[violet nexus]

If ur not much into rgb

Noctua is good

[stone wave]

The Noctuas and Corsair ML120 Pros are probably the best fans on the market

[violet nexus]

I had experience using k95 platinum

The mech keyboard

[stone wave]

What about it?

[violet nexus]

Well its great

[stone wave]

They're pretty nice if you can get a good price on them.

[violet nexus]

Iirc

It costs like 11k php

[stone wave]

If you get one figure out which MX switch you like best

[violet nexus]

The noisy one

[stone wave]

blues

[violet nexus]

Yiz

Im bad at hardware stuff

Im rly bad at it

[stone wave]

I had them on some Logitech one before they switched to their own G-romer thing

[violet nexus]

Im so outdated bout that thing

[stone wave]

but I switched to MX Blacks which are linear non-tactile

[violet nexus]

Ya know i cant even assemble PC

[stone wave]

but now im on a 33 year old keyboard

[violet nexus]

Nice

[stone wave]

its loud but nice to type on

problem is no NKRO

[violet nexus]

NKRO?

[stone wave]

i can only hold down so many buttons at once

before the keyboard stops recognizing them unless i let go of some

[violet nexus]

I see

[stone wave]

which basically only matters in some games

[flint bobcat]

whats a good cheap psu to get

[stone wave]

errr not the cheap Seasonic

EVGA BQ or whatever

[violet nexus]

I only used laptop

Havent had any pc

[stone wave]

whats your budget for a PSU?

[flint bobcat]

$40

[violet nexus]

👀

[stone wave]

that's...

[violet nexus]

A bit low i think

[subtle hawk]

a bit low

[stone wave]

yeah umm gonna have to browse them sales

[flint bobcat]

srsly

[subtle hawk]

imo don't cheap out on psu

[stone wave]

yeah

[flint bobcat]

$40 isnt cheap for me

[violet nexus]

My friendo said this to me: never ever buy cheap psu

[stone wave]

$40 is cheap for a PSU

[subtle hawk]

anything with at least 80+ bronze is okay

[violet nexus]

Silver

[stone wave]

if it coil whines you're gonna want to throw it at a wall

if its bad it's gonna die

if it's shit it's gonna kill other parts

[violet nexus]

U'll spend more if ur psu got shit

[stone wave]

if it's dog shit you better have fire insurance

[flint bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-100-BR-0500-K1-Bronze-Power-Supply/dp/B07DTMXD83/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=EVGA+500+BR&qid=1563505200&s=gateway&sr=8-1

like this

[stone wave]

yeah the EVGA B series

[flint bobcat]

is it bad?

[stone wave]

nevermind the fact that one of them is 1 letter way from BBQ

[subtle hawk]

hm only 500w

lol

[flint bobcat]

500w is enough

[subtle hawk]

yeah until you upgrade to graphics card with additional 8 pin power connector

but I think it's enough for your current setup

I remember someone posted a PSU calculator here

[stone wave]

here's a tier list for PSU

https://www.gamingscan.com/psu-hierarchy/

It'll give you a rough idea

the BR is probably around the BQ and B3

If you're going for $40 or less that's about the only choice not counting mail-in-rebates and etc.

[flint bobcat]

well im not buying anything atm

if i get extra, i can do it

get better psu

[stone wave]

yeah maybe wait for the right one to go on sale

just lurk https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/ or something and check the comments on deals

[lyric island]

I bought that EVGA 500br for 39 plus $10 rebate

Hopefully it doesn't blow up in my friend's PC

[flint bobcat]

oh thanks mith

orip

$20 mail in rebate

[severe falcon]

Oof im at tier 6 on that psu chart

Though i doubt it was a tier 6 when i bought it in 2013

[stone wave]

idk how accurate that chart is but its one of those things you can use to gauge what's kinda shit

like you probably not gonna see Diablotek listed there

[severe falcon]

Well it definitely worked when i needed its full 750 watts, though i dont think it could go back to that without some kind of problem

[lyric island]

I'm using an 8 year old OEM power supply from an old Gateway to power a primarily 24/7 server PC running an overclocked/undervolted FX 8320 in a cardboard box

when you have no money

Hasn't blown up yet

[stone wave]

flexing your poverty on Aria eh?

Aria and his fancy pants Ryzen 5

[flint bobcat]

ryzen 5 is shit, isnt it?

[lyric island]

Also the old GT 640 from the same Gateway

Ryzen Is great

[flint bobcat]

[subtle hawk]

I have Ryzen 7

[stone wave]

brb cooking dinner

[flint bobcat]

i thought this was a low end cpu

[severe falcon]

Im running fx 6300 and 16 gb of ram except one of the sticcs died so its actually 12

[stone wave]

thats ryzen 3

[lyric island]

Ryzen 3 still good for budget

[subtle hawk]

yeah

[lyric island]

I want ryzen 3 3000 chips

[stone wave]

actually whats their low end called

[lyric island]

Athlon

I think

[stone wave]

oh they're using the athlon name again

[lyric island]

Yeah

[stone wave]

i just remembered they have an even lower end line just now

kinda like the Intel Pentiums I guess

[subtle hawk]

isn't pentium higher than celeron

[lyric island]

There's that one Athlon chip with an integrated gpu

[stone wave]

They still make Celerons?

[lyric island]

Ye

[stone wave]

I'm not aware of what happens on the ultra low end

[lyric island]

In those cheap ass Chromebooks

For a great example

[stone wave]

that's whats in those things?

[lyric island]

My school is cheap so I get cheap

[stone wave]

i thought they ran on Intel Atom

[lyric island]

That's super low power not really low end

[subtle hawk]

I saw it in netbooks and tiny x86 single board computers

[lyric island]

It is low end but ye

[severe falcon]

its all just a bunch of 8 bit registers tied together in some fashion

[stone wave]

Just run a pair of literal potatoes in parallel.

Bake them and add some butter.

[lyric island]

I prefer knitting copper threads for RAM

[severe falcon]

Anyone watched that one madman make breadboard computer?

[stone wave]

breadboard

as in 🍞

[severe falcon]

Isnt that the right term for the electronics boards with all the pin holes?

[stone wave]

it is

but i thought you might have meant someone did it with a slice of wonder bread

[subtle hawk]

what are you quoting

[stone wave]

im hungry so i associated bread with bread

[severe falcon]

I mean this madman made a GPU on one

[lyric island]

There's that one series about making a GPU that I haven't watched yet

[stone wave]

some what related, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory

[severe falcon]

Its VGA 100 x 75 at either 60 or 30 hz

[subtle hawk]

meh, I've seen lots of 74xx computer projects before that guy's video

[severe falcon]

Yeah but how many arent soldered and can do graphics?

This mans is gonna do a doom speedrun on a breadboard gaming comp one day

[subtle hawk]

nah, clock speed is too low

[severe falcon]

Hmmm idk

He at least has 10 MHz

Thats 4 more than the gameboy or ti-83 plus

[subtle hawk]

Unless he replicate IBM PC on his proto boards

yeah but those things use z80

it has way more instructions and registers than his

[severe falcon]

I mean you really dont need that many instructions

Especially if some are just repeating another instruction multiple times

[stone wave]

do it in minecraft

[subtle hawk]

someone emulated atari 2600 on that once

[severe falcon]

I wanna say that there is a 2 bit instruction set where it can store, load, add 1 or subtract 1

[subtle hawk]

isn't that just brainfuck

[severe falcon]

Idk what that it but i think stanford made it

[subtle hawk]

yeah you can

[severe falcon]

Tbh im surprised we dont have integer fractions as a hardware data structure

[subtle hawk]

they are called single instruction computers I think

[severe falcon]

Cuz boi that would be useful for high speed fraction math

[subtle hawk]

also yeah I'm studying in computer engineering major and I know how his proto board stuff works

I could make one too but I don't have access to that much parts like him

[severe falcon]

I need to break out my arduinos and make them talk to each other

[subtle hawk]

I also made a vga hardware before for a uni project

but that was on fpga

although the principles are the same

[flint bobcat]

woah thats p cool

[stone wave]

all this graphics card talk reminds me of the Hercules card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_Graphics_Card

the guy made it cause his PC couldn't do the Thai alphabet

[subtle hawk]

wait

it was a Thai card?

TIL

[stone wave]

Made by a guy who spoke Thai as his native language.

[subtle hawk]

Yeah his name is native

well, considering our first exposure to PCs are mostly IBM PCs

instead of 8-bit home computers like most of you

[stone wave]

im not that old

[subtle hawk]

and also Thai alphabet can fit in tilemap but the tile data need to be modifiable to allow every possible combination

[stone wave]

as i understand it each line of the display needed to be addressable

[subtle hawk]

here's what I designed

[stone wave]

to me as a layman it looks like the Thai characters require finer detail to be legible

[subtle hawk]

yeah

you have things like คฅดต

but on my handwriting it's very distinguishable

[flint bobcat]

whats that

[subtle hawk]

no meaning, just 4 letters that looks very similar

and ฅ is unused nowadays

when your script is derived from sanskrit but your sounds are very simplified

then you have 6 letters which shares the same consonant sound

okay, this is getting off topic

[violet nexus]

is out-of-order packet affects the bandwidth speed ?

[subtle hawk]

no

[violet nexus]

aight

[tame topaz]

More BSOD troubleshoot hijinks

Culprit seems to be ntoskrnl

[subtle hawk]

nope, out-of-order packet happens all the time

it's a job for transport layer software to rearrange them

[subtle hawk]

it’s tcp too

you’re fine

[severe falcon]

yeah if its UDP then i have no idea how that even happened, and it certainly wont fix it but it doesnt really matter cuz its UDP

[violet nexus]

I see i see thanks

[severe falcon]

so correct me if im wrong but dont CDs shatter?

cuz i just had to destroy one and it bent like plastic but stayed intact

[valid acorn]

They do

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave is it weird that i need to wire to the power every time i put the pc to sleep

[severe falcon]

aria what do you mean?

[flint bobcat]

like since i dont have my power button plugged in (cause this is a old dell case), i need to use JP pins and connect them to power

[severe falcon]

[stone wave]

it's what ever i suppose, inconvenient but you gotta do what you gotta do, and it's only until you get a new case

[flint bobcat]

mk

[flint bobcat]

is it possible to access a webserver/database from a rasberry pi

[severe falcon]

i mean im pretty sure you can do anything with an rpi, it just takes a long time

[subtle hawk]

I mean, rpi runs linux

[tame topaz]

@subtle hawk yikes. Somehow after uncountable bluescreens now I have a corrupted system file and now it just won't boot.

Trying to run DISM from installation USB but not sure how

Hope DISM works

[tame topaz]

Oh great.

Just great!

Now for some whatever fucking reason my PC would turn on, fans would rev at max but it wouldn't boot into anywhere.

Not even the BIOS.

[flint bobcat]

does corsair make good mouses

or maybe hyperx

[valid acorn]

They do

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave why is my pc usually buzzing

like when i touch the case, it stops buzzing

[tame topaz]

@flint bobcat buzzing?

[flint bobcat]

it stopped

but it sounded like it was buzzing

[tame topaz]

odd

[stone wave]

Is it vibration?

Chances are it will go away when you get a new case.

Unless you're some how getting coil whine.

But since you said it goes away when you touch it' it's probably vibration.

[tame topaz]

Extended memory test, whopee

[stone wave]

It could be something isn't completely secure, a fan, a side panel, etc. So make sure nothing is obviously rattling.

You can also try to dampen the case, just prop it on a towel or 2, but be sure to not cover up any intakes or exhausts. Though this is really only a temporary remedy.

[tame topaz]

@stone wave also I'm hearing slight rattling noises with my own case as well

Seems to be coming from one of the fans

[stone wave]

Fans are kind of annoying to screw in. I hate those screws.

So IMO it's not uncommon for them to not be completely screwed in.

[tame topaz]

Seems like it didn't rattle until only yesterday tho

[stone wave]

Hmm

could take off a side panel and check by pressing/holding on to each fan

if the rattling stops when you take off the side panel it's probably the side panel resonating with whatever little vibration is going on.

[flint bobcat]

mith

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-WHITE-Warranty-Supply-100-W1-0500-KR/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=PSU&qid=1563683370&s=gateway&sr=8-6

how does this look like

[stone wave]

Make sure you give a good 20-25% leeway for the PSU

cause you don't want to run it at peak output all the time

[flint bobcat]

ah ur right

[stone wave]

so figure out how much you think youll be using

[flint bobcat]

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Warranty-Power-Supply-100-N1-0750-L1/dp/B01LZ3WDQG/ref=sr_1_14?keywords=PSU&qid=1563683370&s=gateway&sr=8-14

how bout this

[stone wave]

If you can budget $60 I think a Corsair CX can cut it.

https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Bronze-Certified-Non-Modular-CP-9020121-NA/dp/B01MRW2K79/

[flint bobcat]

isnt that less wattage tho

[tame topaz]

550 should be more than enough for like a 1660

[stone wave]

With stock clock speeds you're looking at around 115w at peak usage for the 2400g

https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-ryzen-5-2400g-review,6.html

[flint bobcat]

ah ok, then yeah, if i can budget to it, ill buy that

[tame topaz]

It's all about having headroom for upgrades and save electricty all the while

Higher 80+ rating = more efficiency = saved electricity

[stone wave]

Meanwhile my PC + main monitor is eating like 160 or so watts doing nothing lmao

[tame topaz]

oof

[stone wave]

around $1.10 a day in electricity.

[flint bobcat]

wo

[stone wave]

But yeah the Corsair CX is probably the best for ~$60.

[quartz atlas]

I would prefer Logitech over corsair

Much better build quality imo

[stone wave]

Logitech's LIGHTSPEED mice are great if you want to go wireless and game.

But you pay a premium for that shit cause it's the best on the market in terms of wireless functionality since there's no discernable latency vs. wired.

[tame topaz]

The PowerPlay mat is fucking expensive

[stone wave]

I know... I was considering it... along with a Lightspeed mouse with a Hero sensor...

$270 after tax...

[tame topaz]

oof

[stone wave]

That's a lot for a fucking mouse and a mouse pad.

[quartz atlas]

Logitechs wired mice are good enough and doesn't break the bank. Even their entry level mice are made really well and you still get Logitech's lengedary support.

[stone wave]

G502, like $50 and really popular.

[tame topaz]

And here I am with an RGB HyperX Cloud spoof

And a mechanical keyboard I got for free

[stone wave]

I'm using the G305

It was kinda expensive considering it has a basic ass shape (see poor ergonomics), and only features being the front and back button.

Battery life is good and the wireless is good enough to game with but... the ergo on that shit...

Like something straight out of 1995.

[quartz atlas]

I'm using the g502 hero

Great Lil thing

[stone wave]

Yeah I was eyeing the wireless version of it.

But $150 USD...

[tame topaz]

Why wireless?

[stone wave]

Waiting on a price drop on that shit.

Cause it's as good as wired when it comes to their Lightspeed models.

[tame topaz]

Any other reasons?

[stone wave]

Battery with the Hero sensor is easily 100 hours.

[quartz atlas]

Also less cables = less cable management and clutter on desk

[tame topaz]

on desk

[quartz atlas]

[tame topaz]

See photo above

[quartz atlas]

Oh

[tame topaz]

Okay what the hell

Now my computer really, really likes to freeze up

Especially if I try to open Event Viewer

[stone wave]

Yeah I've lost a bit of desk space.

[quartz atlas]

Wahdafuk

[stone wave]

19 x 8 inches (48.25 x 20 cm) roughly my keyboard.

and 2.5 kg / 5.5 lbs.

[tame topaz]

Holy fuck is that a Model M

Damn

[stone wave]

Anyways, GoodUsernameNotFound have you tried reformatting the whole thing? If you're still getting issues after a clean install you might be having some hardware failure.

And yeah, vintage 1986.

[tame topaz]

The clean installed caused the issues ironically

[flint bobcat]

I might be getting a part time job soon so I'll see

And I'm gonna go for the Alienware monitor

[stone wave]

lol my GTX 1080 can barely drive that thing at the game quality and FPS I want

[tame topaz]

But yes

The issues only started popping up once I clean installed it

[stone wave]

Computers be doing weird shit sometimes.

[flint bobcat]

Mith should I just find a1080p with 144hz

[stone wave]

err like rn or in the future

https://computers.woot.com/offers/hp-25x-25-led-144hz-gaming-monitor?ref=w_all_84

[flint bobcat]

Future

[stone wave]

oh

just find whatever

[flint bobcat]

I saw that one

Well not in the future, maybe like a month or so

[stone wave]

don't get a G-Sync display if you don't have an Nvidia graphics card.

Also you pay a premium for G-sync

[flint bobcat]

Thing is that green streaks will not match my setup

[stone wave]

But Freesync runs on Nvidia cards now so

yeah that monitor is fugly

You can go 1080p 144hz / 240hz.
Maybe UWFHD (2560x1080) or 1440p.

but if you want UWQHD you're looking at around $550 for a refurb if you want 100hz or higher.

and $800+ for a new one

unless you go down to a VN or TN panel

[flint bobcat]

Nah 1080p is enough for me with 144hz

[stone wave]

well that makes the shopping easier

since those are pretty easy to find on Amazon or elsewhere online

if you start getting picky with resolution, refresh rate, panel type and etc. it can be slim pickings

But if you're not concerned with refresh rates, 29" UWFHD (1080 ultrawide / 2560x1080) displays are easily under $200

[flint bobcat]

Ooo ok

[stone wave]

It depends if you want a high refresh rate or not.

It may be one of those things that ruin 60hz displays for you,

Ignorance is bliss (if you're on a shoestring budget)

[flint bobcat]

DW I'll get 144hz

[flint bobcat]

Is it maybe your wire

Oh only on windows?

Best way is you can check if it's just a cable by running it through a different charger

If not there are other ways like booting into safe mods

[shadow valley]

so we have a fibr line that supports landline and internet

there's gotta be a splitter somewhere right?

[quartz atlas]

It should come out from your ont

At least that's how mine works

[subtle hawk]

ye

it's not a splitter

the optical signal carries both landline and data

[shadow valley]

so the landline and data are gonna be seperated isp side?

[subtle hawk]

ye

and on your side

[shadow valley]

oh yeah ofc, through the router/modem?

[subtle hawk]

through the ONT

that's the beauty of optic fiber

you can multiplex so many sources

in standard setups it runs landline, internet and TV through that signal

[shadow valley]

[tame topaz]

Currently installing Linux because... why?

Alright so I have another odd issue.

In my current Windows installation the drive letters are all assigned correctly (C, D, E)

But it seems like the BIOS has it in a rather mixed up order (essentially D, E, C)

It's very odd and I think that's one of the things causing these issues

Almost as if my SSD was suddenly put at a lower order after the BIOS update

If I use the installation USB and Linux the order of the partitions would be that way (D, E, C)

Uh

How tf do you install Wine

[valid acorn]

ask google for a windows 10 file

[tame topaz]

?

[valid acorn]

or disregard if I didnt understand properly

[tame topaz]

You probably did

[flint bobcat]

@subtle hawk https://www.ebay.com/itm/273403476273

[subtle hawk]

what about it

[flint bobcat]

its cheap

50% off

[subtle hawk]

I guess I can snipe a few

[stone wave]

I grab the white labels off of WD easystores and shuck them

Though you need to tape the 5v for them now

They used to 5200 RPM WD Reds, and they more or less still seem to be Reds.

[subtle hawk]

bois

recommend me a pair of IEMs that can also go wireless

preferably to max of 150-200$

[stone wave]

hmm i just use the Samsung Galaxy Buds

And they work for me.

This is a thing if you have some MMCX IEMs lying around already: https://www.amazon.com/FiiO-Bluetooth-Lightweight-Headphone-Replacement/dp/B07D8J8CJ9
Alternate BT cable option: https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Headphones-Yinyoo-Extension-Replacement/dp/B07881MBQ1

I've heard the nuraloop pop up one or twice, it comes out later this year for $199 USD https://www.nuraphone.com/products/nuraloop

[subtle hawk]

I have some headphones

but I need something flexible

thinking of getting myself a bit spoiled

and I didn't say it has to be exactly 200$

up to that

mostly bcz while the phone can do wireless

the switch and laptop do better wired

[stone wave]

IDK too much about earbuds or IEMs.

Could always check out some reviews: https://www.head-fi.org/showcase/category/in-ear.259/

cause IDK what happens if you use a BT cable on them.

[subtle hawk]

I'll wait for the IEM bois to come online then

[stone wave]

Yeah good, call cause I can't in good conscience blindly recommend something when IDK what happens if you throw a BT cable adapter on a pair of $300 IEMs.

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave help

I accidently banged the top of my PC and it crashed, i tried turning it back on but the monitor won't turn on

[stone wave]

uhh...

did something come loose?

[flint bobcat]

I don't know

[stone wave]

ive never had that happen

[flint bobcat]

Everything looks plugged in

[stone wave]

like how hard did you bang it?

[subtle hawk]

inb4 dropped from 2nd floor

[stone wave]

cause it's possible to tear an HDMI port off of whatever board it's connected to if the cable is plugged in

[flint bobcat]

Like I was putting up my feet and it hit down not that hard onto it

It was accidental

[stone wave]

check every connection?

probably something got loose

[flint bobcat]

I turn it on fan spinning, and stuff

[stone wave]

you've been having issues with that monitor

[flint bobcat]

It looks good

[stone wave]

have you tried using a second cable?

[flint bobcat]

I could try

[stone wave]

what sort of cable is it? HDM, DVI etc

[subtle hawk]

try to turn the monitor on and off

[stone wave]

if it's DVI or VGA try using contact cleaner or something to deoxidize the connections

or just get a different cable to test