technology

[severe falcon]

guess who didnt drag the program over to the flashdrive?

wait nvm i found it

[severe falcon]

man python hates global variables

especially boolean

[flint bobcat]

@severe falcon what exactly are ya makin?

[severe falcon]

or its just the python version on my desktop?

terrain generator for a game i wanna make

[flint bobcat]

thats pretty cool

3D or 2D?

[severe falcon]

it makes it in 2d but then ill get unreal to actually make it 3d

[flint bobcat]

that computer generated?

[severe falcon]

yeah from scratch

wanna know how?

i can take you through the fun version of the process

[flint bobcat]

o ye

sounds fun

[severe falcon]

actually we can let YOU make a terrain

you have paint right?

all you need to do is make any size paint image, fill it with black, and erase in the shape of the land you want, for instance this the shape that made the thing i showed you

[flint bobcat]

mhm

[severe falcon]

just dont make a huge 1000x1000 image

[flint bobcat]

so could i do any shape?

[severe falcon]

i could def do it, but it would just a take a couple mins

yep, but it doesnt like stringy stuff

[flint bobcat]

ah ok

ill just make it 250x250

[severe falcon]

itll still work but it just probably wont have actual land there

thats fine, but it doesnt have to be a square

i made sure it could do almost any dimensions

[flint bobcat]

here

[severe falcon]

so first it takes that shape and it makes noise based on that shape

the brightness indicates how high that point is in the 3d engine

then it generates a full noise image for the amount of moisture in the area, it will make sense later

then through magic recursion algorithms, it makes some rivers that actually make physical sense in their flow

the next part is a lil complicated

so we have height from the first noise image, and moisture from the 2nd noise image

height = y
moisture = x
find them on this biome image and it makes it that color

[flint bobcat]

[severe falcon]

then we combine everything

[flint bobcat]

thats cool

[severe falcon]

am currently working on making lakes so that there are less rivers to nowhere like that one in the middle

@subtle hawk @umbral onyx i got it to work and run fast but the lakes are too smol

oh but if you are still working on an optimization keep going pig

actually nvm, pygame init was slowing it down now its running fast enough

[subtle hawk]

oh whoops I almost forgot it

lol

[severe falcon]

what is that

[subtle hawk]

when javadoc isn't as effective

so they made a deprecated method just to tell you about it

[severe falcon]

oh dear

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon can I have a selectable code of that

[severe falcon]

?

[subtle hawk]

nvm I'll type it in then

[severe falcon]

i mean i can send you the whole file

no wait i have the fixed kinda version

[subtle hawk]

yeah, send that

[flint bobcat]

planning to buy a monitor also, wondering if this is good

[quartz atlas]

Imo, should splurge more on a monitor, easy to future proof

[flint bobcat]

but this is good enough?

1080p

[quartz atlas]

I mean sure, its only 21inches

if it fits your needs and wants

[flint bobcat]

i want to make my pc sound like a jet engine, how do i do that

[stone wave]

just find a goodwill

if all you want is a no frills 1080p monitor

[subtle hawk]

get an old cpu fan

also is that 75Hz IPS at $90

hm maybe because it's only 21"

[subtle hawk]

@flint bobcat

interesting, I see you're looking for a monitor

I recently upgraded mine, I went from a TV (yes a TV) to a samsung 24' curve CF390

I love it

nice

[brave anchor]

Just ask, anyone been try MuMu player with controller/gamepad?

[stone wave]

finally got around to putting my desktop behind a PSU

[stone wave]

i meant ups was too busy farming that d2 to even notice that lmao

[compact cloud]

I've got UPS hooked up to a server with Ubuntu

and my main PC as well

I wonder if it's possible to send shutdown command to my PC from the server when battery runs low

and when my PC is sleeping as well :\

[stone wave]

outside my area of expertise but it'd depend on the make and model of the UPS

https://networkupstools.org/ is an option if your UPS is compatible

[tame topaz]

Hey guys, any clue how to make the back panel USB 3 ports not remain on when the computer is shut down?

Having to unplug my headphones every time I turn off the computer (RGB) is getting annoying

[quartz atlas]

go to bios and switch off the charging function

[tame topaz]

Don't see it

[quartz atlas]

disable the bottom 2 or smth that looks and reads like them @tame topaz

[tame topaz]

Currently using an Asrock board

Will check tomorrow

[stone wave]

If you don't have that option for some reason, you can get something with a power button, either a USB 3.0 hub with power buttons or if your headset can run off of USB 2.0 then get one of those deals with a rocker switch.

e.g. https://www.amazon.com/wishacc-Adapter-Switch-Upgraded-Extension-Recorder/dp/B07QTJZD99

https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-4-Port-Individual-Switches-HB-UM43/dp/B00JX1ZS5O/

[tame topaz]

Alrighty, enabling Deep Sleep did the trick

Not sure if it'll cause any issues though

Hm, a slight delay between pressing the power button and the computer actually turning on for starters

[shadow valley]

ugh going back to wired earphones sucks
i can hear the static

[subtle hawk]

@shadow valley probably your pc isn't grounded

[shadow valley]

hmm

i'll see when I get more funds, i'll get the bluetooth module

[subtle hawk]

grounding your pc should remove that static

[shadow valley]

its a laptop

🤔

especially more noticeable on my phone

[subtle hawk]

yeah non grounded devices have a problem with that

[carmine raven]

👀

look at what im playing

end me

[quartz atlas]

i dont wanna know what kind of headphones you use thats noticeably worse than wireless lmao

[subtle hawk]

bitch u say about wireless

[quartz atlas]

wireless is shit

wired is best

🏃

[subtle hawk]

fuck u

[violet nexus]

Wireless has delay when u play rhythm game

Been there done that

[subtle hawk]

big fuking doubt

unless it's some 5$ wireless earbuds

[violet nexus]

Nah

[lime karma]

Bose QC II wireless are pretty nice tho

[subtle hawk]

boi I can measure wireless delay down to the microsecond

[lime karma]

(ye I know they're expensive, but worth it)

[subtle hawk]

when I say that there is no noticeable delay there isn't

unless ur some sort of machine that can discern that kind of delay

this ain't the 2000s when wireless technology was garbage

[quartz atlas]

the quality still sucks tho

i have yet to find a pair of wireless that can match up to my ie800

[lime karma]

well yes, but if you're not audiophile, you'll not see the difference

[quartz atlas]

i use my wireless when i work out thats for sure

but for traveling and casual listening, its my iems

and i aint even in the CIEM level

[lime karma]

wireless is already on good level when you can use it without doubt, it's not like it disconnects sometimes or has really bad audio quality

The people who want quality will go for wired, who wants comfort - for wireless

[quartz atlas]

not so much as comfort but more for convenience imo

in fact higher end wired will be more comfortable than wireless

more spare margin to increase the use of luxury materials

[violet nexus]

👌

[subtle hawk]

yes wireless does lose some audio fidelity due to compression

but in terms of connectivity, range and delay it's as good as wired

[quartz atlas]

im pretty sure wireless can out range wired

i dont want to carry headphones with 10m long cables

also, long cables mean u need more power delivery

[violet nexus]

Every stuff has its pros and cons

[subtle hawk]

@quartz atlas unless u use optical cables

[tame topaz]

Oh boy I think the deep sleep issues are coming up

[subtle hawk]

then u just need trancievers on both ends

[tame topaz]

ATTEMPTED_WRITE_TO_READONLY_MEMORY

Seems okay now

[quartz atlas]

i dont think any consumer headphones gon be using optical anytime soon

[tame topaz]

But still have to be cautious

[subtle hawk]

my 7.1 sound system uses optical cables

[quartz atlas]

i think some amps using it

[subtle hawk]

but then again

[quartz atlas]

ye those

but they arent headphones

[subtle hawk]

it's a sound system

[quartz atlas]

[subtle hawk]

it can make the damn house vibrate from the sub

[quartz atlas]

[tame topaz]

Custom cables can run into the thousands

[quartz atlas]

which brand do u use?

[subtle hawk]

me

[tame topaz]

Yamato is a lucky guy

Rich af

[quartz atlas]

[subtle hawk]

not rich

[quartz atlas]

wait

is it

yamaha or yamato

[subtle hawk]

just spending my savings on what I like

[quartz atlas]

its yamaha

[subtle hawk]

SHUSH

[quartz atlas]

is there a yamato brand that i dont know of?

i got memed

[stone wave]

Just get a headphone DAC if you think your laptop isn't properly shielded or something.

[shadow valley]

[stone wave]

I ordered a pair of Micca RB42 for my PC... and an AMP with a built in DAC, and some pre-made banana plug cables (cause I can't be bothered to make my own).

Not exactly high end stuff but these RB42s are apparently highly rated for the price bracket. Should be a step up from my current PC speaker setup.

[flint bobcat]

got it installed

[subtle hawk]

nice

[umbral onyx]

My lecturer said neural network too complex

I have to recode my enemy ai by doing fake smart ai

Fakkyu lecturer

Fakkyu NN too

[dusty thorn]

1 more week till new ryzen gen

👀

Hyped a bit

[subtle hawk]

https://imgur.com/RN383VK

xd

[subtle hawk]

just now noticed

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/6avnz.png

so much this

[tame topaz]

but anyway

My attempts to update to build 1903 still fail

For some reason

[quartz atlas]

anyone knows, if i can flush a file from my RAM to my local storage?

[tame topaz]

stil l that same damn error

0x80005004

[severe falcon]

so matlab seems to run its neural networks at impossibly fast speeds, so imma try to kill matlab with too much data

well crap they put a limit on the number of hidden neurons

i can only have 10,000

and it still does 1.8 million floating point operations faster than i can blink

so it can do 36 million in the blink of an eye, but dont you dare hit the "plot confusion" button cuz BOI

[lime karma]

@quartz atlas since the Hibernate feature is all about storing ram on persistent memory, pretty possible

Depends on what you want to do with it, but Google query like "memory dump" may help

[quartz atlas]

Ye I dumped the memory, and I have no idea how to recover a single image file from that dump file

I ended up just forcing the application to cache to disk instead of ram

[subtle hawk]

@quartz atlas you'll never be able to do that

[quartz atlas]

Guessed as much

[subtle hawk]

because 99% of the time the images are offset with a bit or are being pulled only when needed

and if it's an emulator then absolutely no chance

[tame topaz]

hey guys can you tell me a few basics of git

[subtle hawk]

we can't

https://git-scm.com/book/en/v1/Getting-Started-Git-Basics

but this handy guide can

[subtle hawk]

mfw I have to reverse engineer the source code of deluge to understand how it does IPC

[tame topaz]

Alright

Yeah this looks complicated

[umbral onyx]

I feel too lazy to make a dialogue editor for unity

[severe falcon]

then you fail

[severe falcon]

since python is single thread, im assuming hyperthreading is the best way to speed up runtimes right? im trying to compare my work comps to see which one is better for coding

i5 6400 and 8 GB ram vs i3 2120 and 4 Gb ram

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon actually

Python has threading library

[severe falcon]

well yes but im not using that

[subtle hawk]

threading and multiprocessing

oh lol

[severe falcon]

i might use that later when i start making the really intensive stuff but for now its just plain python, numpy, and pillow

[subtle hawk]

no wonder I thought the server sounded funny

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/48btd.png

nice domain

[subtle hawk]

I thought the fan isn't plugged in until I read your message

ye the fans are one a quick connect chassis

so if you don't push them all the way they won't make the connection

[lime karma]

https://userinyerface.com/ - this is horrible

[umbral onyx]

512 samples

denoising turned on

2 bounce

28 minutes

800by800 boxes to share workload

[flint bobcat]

blender

[umbral onyx]

When non-blender users hear I use blender
When people who understands blender hear I use blender

The end result is breddy gud

[flint bobcat]

I would say giving texture to those walls

[umbral onyx]

NO

It would take a long time

[flint bobcat]

Something like concrete where light can bounce off of it

[umbral onyx]

I just rendered

[flint bobcat]

Render again

[umbral onyx]

NO

[flint bobcat]

[umbral onyx]

fakkyu

[flint bobcat]

The one thing that is missing from that scene is atmosphere.

[umbral onyx]

Wait explain

like err

what?

[flint bobcat]

Like you have a light source in the middle, which is a little random, making it unrealistic

[umbral onyx]

You mean the entry way?

[flint bobcat]

Yeah

[umbral onyx]

That's cuz this is for a drawing

[flint bobcat]

[umbral onyx]

I could add buildings to the back or even a shelter, but I'm too nub

[flint bobcat]

Also, try to use a different angle than just straight on

For example

[umbral onyx]

That's cuz this is for a drawing

[flint bobcat]

Drawing?

Oh

[umbral onyx]

This one to be precise, I forgot about it, now I wamt to complete it

see how the background is noisy?

Cuz I setnup the blender wrongly

[flint bobcat]

3D with 2D anime

[quartz atlas]

just pass it off as the texture smh

[shadow valley]

True wireless earphones are so liberating

So free

But damn this set kinda sucks compared to what I have

Ah fuck I lost my eq settings

[subtle hawk]

lol

[umbral onyx]

those air thingies?

airpods?

[shadow valley]

yeah

but not apple

[quartz tide]

Tencent gaming buddy or mumu which one best android emulator for gaming ?

[subtle hawk]

I would suggest nox instead

but mumu is a decent alternative

[quartz tide]

@subtle hawk Nox sometimes bugged with low fps

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/a4ep0.png

make sure to tune these settings

[quartz tide]

That thing fix shuttering tho ?

[subtle hawk]

studdering?

depends on what pc specs you have

could be that the actual hardware can't properly run a decent emu

[quartz tide]

I3 930m 4gb

Playing honkai impact 3

[subtle hawk]

should suffice

[violet nexus]

sht

cisco nexus 9k has a programming structure configuration

god

[tame topaz]

EMBARGO'S LIFTED, FIRE AWAY

[violet nexus]

Hell week starts now

[flint bobcat]

[subtle hawk]

nice rack

[violet nexus]

Its not rack

Its a switch

Single switch

It will be hell

[subtle hawk]

@violet nexus

now THAT I say it's a switch

[subtle hawk]

@violet nexus

Cisco

[violet nexus]

Yes

But the problem is the electricity

This boi consumes a lot

[subtle hawk]

I mean

it's a industrial switch

what did u expect

hot swappable psus or bust

zero failsafe UPSs everywhere or bust

[stone wave]

[violet nexus]

Fukingugh

They changed the whole plan

Fuk fuk sht

And also this boi is so fuking heavy

Even 4 person struggling to lift it

[valid acorn]

Get a forklift

[violet nexus]

@subtle hawk @subtle hawk this boi is so good

But fuk one output failure

[subtle hawk]

Wonder how loud this absolute unit is

[tame topaz]

ay Apple my man

[subtle hawk]

got my old gaming laptop around

but idk what to do with it

since GPU ded

[stone wave]

could replace it if it had a non-soldered on dGPU

[severe falcon]

so i had watched a vid talking about how particles cant ever hit absolute zero because of the uncertainty principle and now ive just discovered negative temperature and my brain is ded

[subtle hawk]

@severe falcon's brain

[severe falcon]

listen, my brain dying is not a driver problem its a page frame corruption problem

i bet you cant guess the error code of my last blue screen

[violet nexus]

I want to buy a laptop that has a SFP port

[subtle hawk]

nobody makes hardware with that connector

only GPONs and ONTs have those

[violet nexus]

Maybe its possible but its gonna be loooong way

[subtle hawk]

there's better SFP connectors

and besides

you don't need one

there's literally no need to run a direct fiber line into ur laptop

[violet nexus]

well yea

Not rly feasible for now

[subtle hawk]

even for a tower it's questionable

unless ur like me and have a 10Gbits fiber LAN

but at that point ur fucked in the head

[violet nexus]

Yap that we did on this event

P2P 10g

But man some transceivers are sht

[subtle hawk]

I just have a strong switch

barely need any trancievers

[violet nexus]

What switch u currently using

[subtle hawk]

can't remember exact model

[violet nexus]

We use 3750-X and 2960

[subtle hawk]

but it's some Cisco switch

the router itself is a 1U server

[violet nexus]

Which is nice

[subtle hawk]

that has over overkill hardware for a router

[violet nexus]

We have the asr 9001

And fuk

It has somewhat have JunOS platform

[subtle hawk]

then again it acts as a router, firewall, DNS server, VPN server, RADIUS server and some other misc services

[violet nexus]

Thats too many function

For asr routers it has cloud services

Havent tried it yet

[quartz tide]

The difference with direct x and open gl ?

[subtle hawk]

directx is windows exclusive

[subtle hawk]

https://yamato.azur-lane.moe/media/a8kj5.png

driver update time

[tame topaz]

oh boi

tfw still stuck with Windows 1803 with no way to update

I've tried everything but it still spits out that damn error

every time

[subtle hawk]

did u try to actually contact MS

[tame topaz]

lol

0x80004005

Tried all the suggestions

[subtle hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vISRn5qFrkM

[severe falcon]

but pandas already exists

[flint bobcat]

this new UI looks awesome

[violet nexus]

Nice

VS 2019

But im still using vs 2010

[flint bobcat]

[stone wave]

I'm bored anyone here old enough to ID what this is. I'll give you an internet cookie I stole from Aria.

[subtle hawk]

this feels awfully familiar

is it a RJ11 connector or smth?

[stone wave]

It's a SDL cable. Shielded Data Link connector, interesting cable since it has a pair of locking tabs on the side rather than one on the top and the connector is metal shielded.

[subtle hawk]

ohhhhhh

those

[stone wave]

Also expensive since I needed SDL to PS/2 and OEMs don't make that shit no more.

[subtle hawk]

I remember only IBM and HP used them doe

[stone wave]

Yep, I think barcode scanners used to until they got replaced by the more modern ones.

[subtle hawk]

nah

they used a RS232 port

the one that looks like a VGA cable

but it's serial

nowadays it's USB

[stone wave]

Either way, needed one for a keyboard project.

[subtle hawk]

are you perhaps refurbishing a IBM Model M

[stone wave]

Gonna cobble together an XT/AT era Model M.

[subtle hawk]

knew it

everytime that connector is brought up

it's for a Model M

[stone wave]

Lol how often is it brought up?

I ordered a very early Model M, parts only that I'm gonna build it off of.

[subtle hawk]

99% of the time

[stone wave]

cause a Model F is too rich for my blood.

and it doesn't have friggin arrow keys

[violet nexus]

Hmm

[violet nexus]

Rj45

[valid acorn]

Where's the internet cookie? 🍪

[stone wave]

[valid acorn]

the blob ate it

[violet nexus]

anybody have clue why the command gets rejected even though in l3 subint port it works

[violet nexus]

Fuk nvm

Outdated IOS

[valid acorn]

it already said "not supported"

[violet nexus]

Well yea

Ahahaha

[tame topaz]

Ahhhh

Fuck.

4 words: BIOS update. Recovery loop.

Or UEFI if you are picky

I had a feeling my current Windows build is just a little fucky

[valid acorn]

@tame topaz build number?

[tame topaz]

Stuck because I can't update for some fucking reason.

[valid acorn]

#blamecomputer

I meant OS build

[tame topaz]

oof

17134

I think

[valid acorn]

Old

[tame topaz]

yeh I know

[stone wave]

ouch, you can probably update via the media creation tool

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

[tidal grove]

anyone good at building pcs?

[stone wave]

reasonably so

[tame topaz]

kinda?

[tidal grove]

wanna help me upgrade my current shit one?

[stone wave]

umm sure

[tidal grove]

right now i have, asus z97-e, gtx 950, i5 4690k, im definitely trying to replace both cpu and gpu, but idk if my motherboard is good enough

for new cpu/gpus

[stone wave]

if you're going for a new CPU youll need a new mobo

and new RAM

[tidal grove]

daamn

i guess im building a whole new pc

[stone wave]

cause your Z97 board only supports 4xxx series Intel processors

and its DDR3

[tidal grove]

have the generations changed

with ram

[stone wave]

DDR4 is whats on the market

[tidal grove]

[stone wave]

DDR5 is projected to hit the market within a year I think

[tidal grove]

can you give me the cheapest build that i can make for 1080p 144fps streaming + games like apex or new mw

cus i heard a new cheap line of cpus came out

[stone wave]

yeah the ryzen 3xxx stuff is good from what i've heard

though the ryzen 2xxx has dropped in price

so im thinking a Ryzen 5 2600, 8GB of RAM

are you in the US or another country?

[tidal grove]

US

[stone wave]

whew

[tidal grove]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-2600/4040vs3955

looking at this right now

eh 18% faster for 65 bucks isn't that bad

[stone wave]

R5 2600 is $140 before tax and shipping

the key is to find the AM4 mobo for cheap either on its own or in a combo

You can also go with the R5 2600X

if you spot something at a good price

[tidal grove]

i dont mind like

$100 price differences

as long as it's not like +$200

[stone wave]

Do you live near a Microcenter?

[tidal grove]

im going to buy them in person at

micro center anyways

[stone wave]

perfect

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608320/ryzen-5-3600-36ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

[tidal grove]

"limited 1 per household"

OMEGALUL

is the uh

wraith cooler good?

the usual stockfans for cpu are asscheeks

[stone wave]

yeah its better than the intel shit

[tame topaz]

1440p eh

hmm

144 hz too

[stone wave]

X570 mobo is gonna be like $200

[tame topaz]

I think a B450 can handle a 3600 just fine

[tidal grove]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608906/x570-a-pro-am4-atx-amd-motherboard

https://www.microcenter.com/product/509723/msi-b450-tomahawk-am4-atx-amd-motherboard

[stone wave]

does B450 have Ryzen 3000 support out of the box?

[tame topaz]

BIOS update so that's gonna be kinda tricky.

Tomahawk's a good choice tho

[tidal grove]

eh

it's about 50 bucks

ill go with x570

[tame topaz]

MSI -A Pro boards aren't generally that good tbh

Since it's budget

[tidal grove]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608671/gigabyte-x570-gaming-x-am4-atx-amd-motherboard

this one?

[tame topaz]

Looks decent.

[tidal grove]

i actually don't like MSI in general

[stone wave]

Are the new Ryzen mobos still picky with their RAM?

[tidal grove]

i mostly go with asus for motherboards

[tame topaz]

Probably, yes

[tidal grove]

but it's been so long since i built any pc

[tame topaz]

3200 should be good

[stone wave]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/600722/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2z3200---black

[tame topaz]

So glad RAM prices have dropped significantly to where they really should be at

[stone wave]

oh man

[tidal grove]

2 x 8gb?

so 16gb for 100?

[stone wave]

i think it was $175 for 2x8GB when I last checked during those price hikes

[tidal grove]

i bought 2x 4gb for 70 ish

when i built mine lmao

[stone wave]

alternatively...

https://www.microcenter.com/product/607719/ballistix-sport-lt-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-bls2k16g4d32b---gray

if you wanna flex your ram on 16GB plebs

but its really overkill in most cases

[tame topaz]

Hold on

[tidal grove]

nah 16gb is enough

[tame topaz]

The MSI board is actually quite good feature-wise

No RGB like the Gigabyte but I don't think that'll matter much

[stone wave]

TFW RGB headers are a requirement

[tame topaz]

That said if you wanna stick to Asus then sure

They have a budget model as well

[tidal grove]

flashy lights for 5 bucks

ill take it

which asus mobo?

i can probably drop like 200 on motherboard

[tame topaz]

X570-P

Check the TUF X570-Plus Wifi too

[stone wave]

next part is gonna hurt, do you wanna play 1080p 144FPS at max settings?

[tidal grove]

ofc, gimme the fat gpu

[stone wave]

I would say nothing short of the 2070

[tame topaz]

5700 XT is another option but drivers are pretty crap rn

[stone wave]

but imo its a case of throw money at the problem

[tame topaz]

And btw I thought the 2070 got the die

And the 2060 Super took its place or something

[stone wave]

i havent looked recently

[tame topaz]

nah the 2070 still ekes out a slight bit

[stone wave]

is navi a contender

[tidal grove]

what's the diff between the tuf and x570-p

[tame topaz]

well, like the name suggest

TUF has wifi

[tidal grove]

naw i dont need wifi

[tame topaz]

lemme check

It's quite ridiculous how every single of these boards necessitate a chipset fan

It's just that hot

[stone wave]

yeah i hear with the R9 things get crazy

[tidal grove]

then ill just go with

prime x570 p

[tame topaz]

If you don't want wifi then the normal TUF board is 10 bucks cheaper

[stone wave]

if you want wifi just get a $10 usb dongle when you need it, same shit lol

[tame topaz]

First off X570-P doesn't have DisplayPort

[stone wave]

no integrated graphics anyways right?

[tame topaz]

TUF has 8 SATA ports while P has 6

Better ethernet

[stone wave]

oh yeah, budget for a NVMe SSD too if you can

[tidal grove]

wouldnt i be using ports on gpu

[stone wave]

yeah

[tame topaz]

Black SN750 is a good choice in that regard

[stone wave]

since you're going from x79 to x570 might as well take advantage of it

[tame topaz]

Marketed as an SSD for gamerz

I'm using a dog slow Kingston A400 and still chugging along nicely

[tidal grove]

i have an SSD right now

i forgot what i got

hold on

[stone wave]

Regular 2.5" SSD https://i.vgy.me/qgmD3G.png

NVMe SSD https://i.vgy.me/bXR5e6.png

[tidal grove]

samsung 850 EVO 250gb

[tame topaz]

Difference in back panel IO for the two boards:

TUF has 4 3.2 gen 1 ports and 3 3.2 gen 2 ports

P has 2 3.2 gen 1 but 4 3.2 gen 2

[tidal grove]

so for gpu

what works with the

ryzen 3600 cpu and asus x570-p

what works best*

[tame topaz]

Full red team: RX 5700 XT (given time)

Red and green: Probably RTX 2070

given time because you need time for the AMD drivers to age

[stone wave]

EVGA has their RTX 2060 Super with $20 off for $399.99

at MicroCenter the 2070 is going for $579.99

[tidal grove]

oof

[tame topaz]

Jesus

[stone wave]

thats the one they ship

[tame topaz]

How about the 5700 XT?

[tidal grove]

yeah, no

[stone wave]

in-store stock varies

[tidal grove]

5700 is 400

[tame topaz]

ouch

[stone wave]

lowest 2070 is $479.99

https://www.microcenter.com/product/513536/rog-strix-geforce-rtx-2070-overclocked-triple-fan-8gb-gddr6-pcie-video-card

[tidal grove]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/608896/Radeon-RX-5700-Single-Fan-8GB-GDDR6-PCIe-Video-Card

this one for 350

[tame topaz]

ah wait I got confused for a second

[stone wave]

blower fan

[tidal grove]

lookin like a leaf blower

lmao

[tame topaz]

literally and figuratively sucks

thermals are terrible

[stone wave]

yeah blower fans are a deal breaker for many people

[tidal grove]

a good one for 300~400

i feel like i have a blower fan right now

[tame topaz]

So yeah 2060 Super is a good choice then

[tidal grove]

with this crap 950

[stone wave]

do you care if you buy used online?

https://www.evga.com/products/ProductList.aspx?type=8&family=GeForce+20+Series+Family&chipset=RTX+2070

[tame topaz]

btw are you going with aesthetics or no?

[tidal grove]

im not buying used

ever.

eh

aesthetics are okay

actually been using a full cover case

but im planning on buying something with glass

[tame topaz]

TUF board seems quite a bit nicer than the P aesthetics wise tbh

[stone wave]

wow i havent seen RX 5700 with a non-blower setup

[tame topaz]

with a few more QoL nick nacks

That is gonna take a while to show up, yes

That was the same for Vega

[stone wave]

yeah

must still be pretty new

[tame topaz]

literally released only 3 days ago

[stone wave]

wouldnt hurt to wait i guess

oh LMAO

i havent been keeping up

[tame topaz]

oof

[stone wave]

good ol 1080 still doing its thing

[tame topaz]

still chugging along just fine

praise math man Pascal

[stone wave]

my display only does 120hz @ OC

so

[tame topaz]

bought my pc at the height of the mining craze

[stone wave]

its also UWQHD which kinda hurts

[tame topaz]

so RAM and graphics card prices were sky high

[stone wave]

yeah I got this 1080 at launch

[tame topaz]

But I couldn't wait oof

[stone wave]

or near launch

[tame topaz]

2200G (upgraded from Pentium), 8 gigs of RAM, 3 gig 1060

[stone wave]

my ram was slightly up marked at $130 per 2x8GB but it wasnt that bad since I saw it peak to nearly $200

[tame topaz]

and now they're all sitting there kinda dead because Windows refuses to boot

oof

[stone wave]

whats wrong with your windows?

[tame topaz]

4 words. BIOS update. Recovery loop.

Dunno why it happened.

[stone wave]

oof

[tidal grove]

where did u find the

flashy lights

for the tuf vs x570p

[tame topaz]

?

[stone wave]

errr that takes the standard DRGB header right?

[tidal grove]

oh i thought u meant like

[stone wave]

or is it the aura sync

[tame topaz]

wdym by that

[tidal grove]

lights for aesthetics lmao

[stone wave]

RGB is kind of a mess cause everoyne does their own thing

if its ASUS I think they do their own Aura Sync

[tame topaz]

I mostly use RGB to adjust to the color I want

[stone wave]

so just look up Aura Sync on Amazon

[tame topaz]

Not exactly a fan of rainbow vomit

most higher end RGB products are pretty much guaranteed to have Aura Sync support, yes

[stone wave]

yeah I have RGB fans but I lock them to white

https://i.vgy.me/AHsuDB.jpg

[tame topaz]

I lock them to mostly a shade of blue most of the time

Often cyan/turquoise

imma bail now, it's late af

Good luck with your choices!

[stone wave]

[tame topaz]

And pray that I can fix the damn OS on my own...

[stone wave]

reformat it?

[tame topaz]

Maybe try to do it without losing all of my shit, yes

At least the OS is in a seperate drive now

not just partition

[stone wave]

oof yeah i store all my personal data and work stuff on other drives

[tidal grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLkw-rdSfw4 rip 118fps on apex

[tame topaz]

F

[stone wave]

yeah 144 FPS is tough

[tame topaz]

I'll try to remember what stuff I have on the C drive

[tidal grove]

i guess ill lower the settings a bit

[tame topaz]

tfw I play games that need nowhere near the hardware I have rn

[stone wave]

my friend has 1080s in SLI and a 100hz UWQHD display and that shit occasionally falls short of 100 FPS @ max for the more demanding games

[tame topaz]

mostly shmups

but yep i bail

[stone wave]

but yeah regarding the 2060 thats why i said nothing short of the 2070

IDK how the XT 5700 benches since its so new

it might be worth it to wait and use your current card for a month or 2 until results are conclusive

since AMD will need time to iron out driver issues and what not

[subtle hawk]

@stone wave it bemches like shit

as usual

it outperforms the 2070 in some tasks

[tidal grove]

is htis one any good ? ASUS ROG Strix Z390-I Gaming

compared to x570

[stone wave]

idk if that handles ryzen 3000

[subtle hawk]

better get a newer chipset board

[stone wave]

yeah

[tidal grove]

dang lmao nvm then

[subtle hawk]

this is why I don't like this empty promise from AMD

"all our ryzen chipsets will be intercompatible"

yeah no

[tidal grove]

so now it comes down to

2600 super vs 5700

[subtle hawk]

if you want games

2060 super

if u want blender and shit 5700

[tidal grove]

alright

then altogether now

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6GHz 6core
ASUS x570-p
RTX 2600 super
corsair vengeance lpx 2x8gb DDR4

[subtle hawk]

what frequency the ram

probably 3000 MHz but better check

[tidal grove]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/506733/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2-x-8gb-ddr4-3000-pc4-24000-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-cmk16gx4m2d3000c16---black

[subtle hawk]

yeah 3000 MHz

good

[tidal grove]

all goood?

[subtle hawk]

seems good

don't forget to throw in a SSD

[tidal grove]

let me see how much it all costs

PepeLaugh

i have a SSD

that im just gonna use from this current pc

[subtle hawk]

fair enough

[tidal grove]

oh i forgot

idk if i can use

my old PSU

im guessing computers definitely eat up more power now

[subtle hawk]

how much wattage does your old one have

[tidal grove]

600W

[subtle hawk]

it might be enough (?)

750W is definitely enough

so technically you should be good for now

[tidal grove]

https://www.amazon.com/CORSAIR-Bronze-Certified-Non-Modular-Supply/dp/B0092ML0OC

it was this one i think

[subtle hawk]

hmm bronze efficiency

[stone wave]

he has an i5 4xxx IIRC

and what GPU did you have?

[subtle hawk]

4th gen i5

dam

[stone wave]

i think the haswell would eat more power

[subtle hawk]

maybe

[stone wave]

since hes getting the regular r5 3600

[subtle hawk]

but yeah 600W should be good enough

unless you like do a benchmark on both CPU and GPU

then you might reach the limit

[stone wave]

thats what hempy has rn

needs a new graphics card like yesterday

[subtle hawk]

the 970 is a decent card

albeit old

[stone wave]

no no you misread that yamato

it says 950

[subtle hawk]

950

hmmmm

I'm conflicted on that one

[stone wave]

its better than a 750 ti

[tidal grove]

i was gonna buy uh

970 i think at that time

but i cheaped out instead

[subtle hawk]

big mistake

[tidal grove]

cus i wanted to upgrade a bit early on

[stone wave]

on the brightside at least he doesn't have to deal with 3.5 + .5GB of VRAM

[subtle hawk]

the 2060 super might be enough depending on what u wanna play

[stone wave]

he wants to do Apex @ 1080p / 144hz

[subtle hawk]

that's more than plenty

not on max settings ofc

but plenty

[tidal grove]

i can't find super 2060 on pcpartpicker

[stone wave]

its new

like yesterday new

[subtle hawk]

probably didn't update their listings

[tidal grove]

so 875 bux

• new case

hopefully they got good cases this time

cus last time was trash

[stone wave]

I got the Phanteks P600s

good case

[subtle hawk]

I mean if u have the shekels you can go for the bigger 2070 super and have most shit run buttery smooth

or if ur a graphics whore like me u snipe that 2080 Ti to run literally everything on max

I swear I don't have a problem

[stone wave]

heres someones benchmarks, take with a grain of salt ofc

[tidal grove]

im not tryna spend that much

on gpu lmao

"NJ Tech"

[subtle hawk]

stock clock

[tidal grove]

i live in new jersey

[stone wave]

shit with a 2080ti he can get a 240hz 1080p display and be like a pro CS:GO esports player

[subtle hawk]

nah fam

both cards can boost p decently if you've got cooling

but the 5700 will need a lot of positive pressure in the case to push air through that shroud

[stone wave]

5700 only has blower models out rn

[subtle hawk]

exactly

[stone wave]

so imo id wait

[subtle hawk]

I habe a 180Hz display for csgo

still shit skill

[tidal grove]

845 total, gonna need to wait for next week's paycheck and go next weekened to the store

[subtle hawk]

that's what I get for not playing csgo for 2 years

[stone wave]

if you were eying the 2060 super

you can get it now

cause 950

leaves a lot to be desired

[subtle hawk]

ye

[tidal grove]

naw im fine for now

i can wait till $$

[subtle hawk]

but yeah I wouldn't get the 5700 imho

[tidal grove]

i waited 4 years, i can wait 2 more weeks

[stone wave]

cause the 950 is like a ford pinto engine in a porsche

[tidal grove]

yeah but my entire pc is dogshit altogether

so it works out

[stone wave]

haswell aint too bad imo

[subtle hawk]

ye

it was good at the time

[stone wave]

ivy bridge is where i go.... you should get a new CPU

(mobo and ram too)

[subtle hawk]

I still have my broadwell 5960X somewhere

[stone wave]

x99...

still good shit

[subtle hawk]

yeah

[stone wave]

i considered getting the lower tier haswell-e back when that was new

ended up sticking with my ivy bridge though since it seemed over kill at the time

had the non-K i5 Ivy Bridge for a while

little bugger lasted longer than I expected

[flint bobcat]

what the

[subtle hawk]

rise up

[shy forum]

Opera ❤

[tame topaz]

Aaaaaaahhh why isn't Fire online rn

[subtle hawk]

chromium master race

I changed to FF few months ago and don't want to change back again

I think it's like the last mainstream browser now to survive the chrome plating

yeah no thx

I'll enjoy my chromium compatibility and tools

yeah whatever

[tame topaz]

Chromium is familiar anyways

[subtle hawk]

I still need to have chrome in case some websites uses very experimental features

[tame topaz]

Chromium Edge is pretty nice tbh

[valid acorn]

Its nice, cuz you have been living on the edge of a cliff for so long

[subtle hawk]

edgy

[quartz tide]

Why my discord apk sometimes freeze when opening emote toggle ?

[subtle hawk]

known bug

[severe falcon]

i am baffled at how good excel is at guessing what it thinks you want

[umbral onyx]

[flint bobcat]

is the Ryzen 2400g good

gonna upgrade it from this old i3

[stone wave]

ryzen 2000 should be dropping in price right now

i'd say aim for 2600 or 2600x if you can

if you live near a microcenter go for those mobo+cpu bundles

oh yeah you got a 1050 ti right? a 2400g might pair nicely with that

[stone wave]

you can probably get by with a R3 2200g
if you have a micro center you can visit in-person they're $60 rn https://www.microcenter.com/product/503183/ryzen-3-2200g-quad-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-stealth-cooler

[subtle hawk]

sitting here implementing OAuth 1.0

[subtle hawk]

cursed image

yes

[stone wave]

I had my smaller ultrawide in portrait before and having to pan my head up and down to read shit was kind of a pain TBH.

[shy forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=BqVhcvU4mIo

[subtle hawk]

seen it

I want

[shy forum]

I think it's a one off custom, sadly

[stone wave]

needs a crowbar stylus

[subtle hawk]

@shy forum how much u wanna bet I can replicate it

just need a 3D printer, CAD software, USB cables, LCD/OLED display, speaker, raspberry pi, electronic components, pc and time

[shy forum]

Heh

just

[subtle hawk]

got all of that

minus the 3D printer

but for that I can bribe my friend to use his

[stone wave]

you could probably use a laser cutter and some delrin sheets

then spray paint it orange and clear coat

[severe falcon]

bruh i just realized i have everything yama listed

except my 3d printer hates existing

[subtle hawk]

YUS

my new OAuth implementation works

[tame topaz]

nice

meanwhile I'm still learning the basics of code

[willow flare]

Maybe someone here might appreciate these screenshots

The last time I had to boot a Linux live CD for data recovery purposes was probably back in college when I was fixing computers for my student job 😂

[subtle hawk]

@willow flare is that a 3D printed save button?

[severe falcon]

lemme go get the IBM reels from upstairs

[subtle hawk]

also

discord white theme

[severe falcon]

windows are in the middle of the screen and dont touch the sides

[subtle hawk]

linux mint

[severe falcon]

icons are set on large size

i think we have successfully roasted them

[subtle hawk]

these are all registered amiibos

[severe falcon]

you should glue them to a random anime figurine

places hatsune miku on switch
GANON

[willow flare]

It's a live CD lol

Well, live USB with whichever distro I happen to have an ISO of lying around, which was Mint

The floppy was what I was ddrescue'ing

[subtle hawk]

a floppy of all things?

[willow flare]

A $4000 floppy

[subtle hawk]

what's so special about it

[willow flare]

Well, 400,000 JPY, so slightly under $4k after conversion rates

[severe falcon]

am i like the only person who used cmd to run python programs on windows? am i the only person who uses pip on windows?

pip gives error
searches online for solution
solution: sudo apt-get
thanks internet

[willow flare]

Extremely rare collectors item: https://www.tsukikan.com/tmdb/tsukihime-preview.html

I run WSL on Windows for stuff like python scripts

I'm kind of interested how well WSL2 will work

[subtle hawk]

@willow flare you think you can recover it?

[willow flare]

That's what the 2nd and 3rd screenshots show... There's clearly physical damage based on the pattern of the errored sectors :(,

[subtle hawk]

[willow flare]

But luckily the content was redistributed as bonus material in later releases

I just needed to recover just enough to compare some file hashes and timestamps to verify that there was no previously undiscovered content

Which I was able to do. Still sad though that I could not create a full uncorrupted image dump but c'est la vie

If I were able to miraculously find the owner of a second copy that was less damaged (or damaged in a different section), I could theoretically instruct him to use my recovery map to fill in the missing data and construct a complete disk image. But this is the one and only copy of this item I've ever even seen online, so the chances of that are pretty slim...

[stone wave]

Maybe try a Kyroflux?
They're like $80 though, but if you get an intact copy of what you're trying to archive Kyroflux would be perfect for making exact clones or archiving the data.

[flint bobcat]

@stone wave

[stone wave]

aria

[flint bobcat]

does this look good for an upgrade

[stone wave]

get 2 sticks of ram

it can be 2x 4gb

[flint bobcat]

not enough money

also if i do 2x4, i would need to upgrade that later on for 2x8

so ill just get 1x8 for now

[stone wave]

alright just buy an identical stick later down the line

[flint bobcat]

ye, ill buy same one

[stone wave]

cause single channel is slow

[flint bobcat]

i mean, it would be faster than my 1x4 ddr3 right now

i would be getting like a 3-4x boost than what i have

[stone wave]

[flint bobcat]

im also gonna upgrade this 500GB HDD to WD 1TB

[stone wave]

ssd or regular hdd?

[flint bobcat]

regular

i dont need SSD

[stone wave]

ignorance is bliss

[flint bobcat]

[stone wave]

or until you can budget for it

[flint bobcat]

i could just wait

since im not focusing on buying storage rn

do you have a recommended ssd 1tb?

[stone wave]

you can be cheap i guess

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-BX500-240GB-2-5-Inch-Internal/dp/B07G3KRZBX/ref=sr_1_10?keywords=ssd&qid=1562964469&s=gateway&sr=8-10

[willow flare]

@stone wave damn, that Kyroflux thing was exactly what I was looking for before I started this all xD

[flint bobcat]

$98 for 1Tb

not bad

[stone wave]

if you get it i hope it works 🙏

[flint bobcat]

ill save it for later

thanks

[stone wave]

ssds are generally safe to buy used

so you can go that route

regular sata m.2s might be an option off ebay

used that is

since people salvage laptops and part them out

[willow flare]

I'm kind of torn now. On one hand if I use it, I'll probably get a more complete image, but on the other hand it's still going to be an incomplete image cause of physical damage :/

[stone wave]

yea bit rot is a bitch

even CDs are at the point where its not uncommon for more vintage stuff

[willow flare]

There's one more floppy disk that's even more rare that I'm still hunting for (50 copies released). If I miraculously get my hands on that, I'll definitely go get a Kyroflux and use it from the start

[stone wave]

ugh i expected this but i dont have the parts on hand to bolt mod the missing rivets

[flint bobcat]

whats that

[stone wave]

march 1986 date of production ibm model m keyboard

[flint bobcat]

o