technology

[shadow valley]

"hand me down work laptop"

[subtle hawk]

7 was notorious for having drivers hit the shitter

for no reason

[tame topaz]

8.1

And it's quite locked down since some of the admin privileges are still taken away

Again, former work laptop

[stable sonnet]

yeah its probably the drivers

[tame topaz]

Alright time to format my portable nuke then download the drivers to there

Portable nuke meaning USB with DBAN

[subtle hawk]

nuke

ur reinstalling

[tame topaz]

No I used it to wipe an old hard drive

[subtle hawk]

just reinstall the entire OS

[tame topaz]

I plan to do that when I have the time

[subtle hawk]

it would probably be a lot better for it

[tame topaz]

Kinda busy rn, but maybe in a few weeks

So upgrade to 10, downgrade to 7 or stick with 8.1?

[subtle hawk]

10

[stable sonnet]

your better off with 10 yeah

[subtle hawk]

that thing can run on a toaster

[tame topaz]

Alright.

[subtle hawk]

and has updates

7 is ded next year

[stable sonnet]

aren't they ending support for 7 soon

[subtle hawk]

yis

[tame topaz]

Next year, yes.

[stable sonnet]

damn I remember using that on my 1st desktop

[tame topaz]

Used a P4 machine with XP ever since I've been born

Until it suddenly burnt out that is

[stable sonnet]

my parents gave me a shitty little dell for christmas despite the fact we're Jews

[tame topaz]

I still have the manual for the mobo

It advertised an OC utility in there

Back when every Intel chip was unlocked I suppose

[stable sonnet]

eventually my brother slapped a cheap GPU in there

and it managed to run Fry Cry 3 on max

kinda surprising for that shitty tin can

[tame topaz]

Nice

[stable sonnet]

eventually moved onto my 2nd PC which was a monster

then I got my current PC back in 2016 which is also a monster

[tame topaz]

Honestly, looking back maybe I shouldn't have bought a PC in summer last year

Prices were ridiculous back then but I was impatient

[stable sonnet]

bitcoin miners drew the prices so god damn high man

lucky I got my PC just before everyone tried to jump on the band wagon

[tame topaz]

Now used 1060s and Radeons sell for absolutely dirt cheap

Quite an oof moment

[stable sonnet]

yeah right now I got my desktop rocking a 1080

and my laptop rocking a 1060

[subtle hawk]

I bought my parts right at the peak of that miner craze

outside of the GPU

that came in later

[stable sonnet]

wonder how long my desktop is gonna last me

[tame topaz]

My original system had a Pentium

[subtle hawk]

the Quadro I yeeted out of the workstation worked as a temporary GPU juuuuuuuust fine

[tame topaz]

Few months later I managed to grab a 2200G along with a mobo as part of a sale

[subtle hawk]

noice

[stable sonnet]

o god a quadro

[tame topaz]

Somehow 3.9 ghz at 1.4V still isn't stable enough?

[subtle hawk]

going in the .4 range?

be careful

make sure ur VRM can handle it

[tame topaz]

That's what it defaulted to when I set manual multiplier in the BIOS

I heard Ryzen Master does the same

[subtle hawk]

mine is also going spicy with .46

but then again mine has helluva overkill VRM

[tame topaz]

AC7 would work for a good while with that OC

[subtle hawk]

so it won't die

[tame topaz]

But like 2 weeks ago it started crashing mid-game

[subtle hawk]

yeah clock it down

[tame topaz]

Reinstalled game, still wouldn't work

Yeah I turned it back to original settings and now it works just fine

[subtle hawk]

I need to turn mine down one multiplier

it's running right at the edge

5.3 GHz

it can do 5.4 but only for benchmarks

[tame topaz]

Damn

[stable sonnet]

damn bruh

[tame topaz]

Well I won't touch BCLK ever that's for sure

[subtle hawk]

but like for 5.4 I go over the 1.5 line

it turns into a fusion reactor

[stable sonnet]

I really don't bother messing around with overclocking

[subtle hawk]

5.3 works reliably for daily use

[tame topaz]

Guess you're quite lucky with the lottery too

[subtle hawk]

nah

this is one of the worst binned CPUs

I'm getting it so high purely from delid + good hardware

[stable sonnet]

ever have a power supply explode on you

[subtle hawk]

ye

fun shit

[stable sonnet]

14 year old me trying to build my first computer just to watch it explode into sparks

[subtle hawk]

and not a wussy 1000 W pc supply

but one of those beefy supplies for a circular saw

[stable sonnet]

oof

I had some crappy 850 watt power supply my dad had

that was the day I learned to only buy modular power supplies

[subtle hawk]

it fuking detonated there

thank fucc it was in an enclosure

[stable sonnet]

hmmmm

[subtle hawk]

replacing the blown caps was a piece of cake doe

[stable sonnet]

wait

did you actually try to repair a busted power supply

[subtle hawk]

ye

[stable sonnet]

isn't that ultra dangerous

[subtle hawk]

I knew what I was doing

so it's all gucci

well it's dangerous af if u dunno what you're doing

[stable sonnet]

I suppose

[subtle hawk]

especially with the bigger supplies

[stable sonnet]

ever watch the retro nerd?

[subtle hawk]

since the charge the caps have can nuke ur heart and nervous system

[stable sonnet]

actually no not the retro nerd

what was the channel I was thinking of

the 8 bit guy

[subtle hawk]

I saw some of his vids

[stable sonnet]

yeah

[subtle hawk]

but only here and there

[stable sonnet]

interesting to watch him restore old computers

[subtle hawk]

I can't be arsed to do that

outside of that one intel 8086 system

used it to learn more about pc signaling and cpu instruction sets

[stable sonnet]

hmmmmm

o its 1 AM

I should probably sleep

[subtle hawk]

probably

[tame topaz]

tfw I'm still stuck with non-modular

[shadow valley]

Hmm

I oughta build my own rig soon

[tame topaz]

I can suggest a build if you wanna.

Also looks like reinstalling the drivers worked.

[tame topaz]

Houston we have another problem

A phone of mine keeps on turning wifi off and on by itself.

[shadow valley]

drivers

or check the wifi antennae

[tame topaz]

Phone

None of the other phones or devices in my house have the same issue

Like in settings I can actually see it turn off the wifi setting by itself

[shadow valley]

maybe check power management apps or something

or anything that has permission over wifi turning on or off

[tame topaz]

Okay what the hell

Wifi seems to be back

But now it would say "Google Play Services has stopped" incessantly and all google-related apps would crash

[shadow valley]

reinstall play services or something

better ask around google forums

[tame topaz]

tfw can't disable because device admin

Also can't boot into recovery

[subtle hawk]

are u one of those ppl that break everything they touch?

there it goes nuclear

[tame topaz]

@subtle hawk pretty much, yes

[stable sonnet]

You sound like my friend that I’m 50% sure is actually SCP 106

[tame topaz]

oof

Oh boy, time for nuclear option?

[tame topaz]

Okay I factory reset and somehow the wifi problem persisted.

What the hell is wrong with this ROM?!

[severe falcon]

@subtle hawk did nimi pull a linbot in game news or did you manually do that?

[subtle hawk]

she's sentient

[severe falcon]

Oh dear

[subtle hawk]

nothing wrong with running a unshackled AI

well about that

if you see a predator drone circling around your position I won't say I told you

[stable sonnet]

That’s if he sees the predator drone coming

[severe falcon]

Radiowaves

You think a puny window can stop radiowaves?

[stable sonnet]

Prepare the JDAM

get a 2000 pounder

[mental coyote]

Skynet says "Hi!"

[unkempt slate]

Hi!

[severe falcon]

@unkempt slate
True = False;

[stable sonnet]

mmmmmmm self aware AI waifus

I'll take 20 of them

[valid acorn]

More apple leaks

[stable sonnet]

planned obsolescence

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/96ime.png

who said more cores is better

had to run at 1.5 V to keep that turbo on all cores

[tame topaz]

Nice

tbf for Ryzen that is still very impressive for stock

[severe falcon]

excuse me amd, but wtf

[valid acorn]

[subtle hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnST5rA64Oc

dam son

[molten junco]

guys

why do ISN needs to be randomized and why can't it start with 0?

been researching for a while, can't find a definite answer...

[severe falcon]

do you mean IP?

[molten junco]

yes

initial sequence number* mb

[severe falcon]

pretty sure it cant be alot more numbers than just 0 and i think all the reasons are so it doesnt interfere with local router addresses or they are just reserved

[molten junco]

hmm, so it's to avoid local interference, i see

but is there a reason why it can start at 0?

[severe falcon]

well from what im reading 0.0.0.0 is very special and i guess 0 is just reserved

[molten junco]

that makes sense
it's just that a source is see is saying "The ISN can be any number from 0 to 4,294,967,295" but my professor is say it can't be 0

so i'm kinda confused, thanks for the help anyways

[severe falcon]

first off, what does ISN stand for?

[molten junco]

initial sequence number

i misstyped it as isp, lol

[severe falcon]

cuz IP is only 0-255 for each one so i think we arent on the same page

well it CAN be 0 for the isn, but it has to be generated randomly because of security

[molten junco]

i see, so i guess the point that my professor was trying to convey where "it can't be 0" was for security reasons...

[severe falcon]

if it was 0 each time, someone could hijack the connection in the middle of the packets and then send the wrong info. it also has to be random because they dont want to reuse sequence numbers in case there were collisions between seperate sessions

[molten junco]

security and collisions, so thats why

thank you kind sir

[severe falcon]

yeah it was first made for the collisions reason but then security became a big thing

[brave anchor]

Soon!

[stable sonnet]

Malaysia

[valid acorn]

Bruh

1Gbps is already out

And TIME™ is late at building their Wi-Fi spots around the condominium

[stone wave]

feelsgoodman

[silver vigil]

what's your build?

[obtuse dawn]

And today in "stupid things to do in Arduino": calling noInterrupts() and then wondering why none of your time-based stuff is working

[dusky linden]

Stupid question but does a graphic card driver (software) a must for a PC?
I have a Nvidia GTX 1080 Ti

[stone wave]

@ SoulHunter67
i7-7700k
32 GB RAM
1080 GTX

Not bleeding edge any more but she'll last me for a few more years.

https://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

[dusky linden]

just wondering since i am a noob at PC in general

[subtle hawk]

@dusky linden if you're on windows 10 there's a chance windows update already installed it for you

but to be sure do try to install it manually

[dusky linden]

nah i just installed it already

just checking since i don't want to clog up my PC with un needed stuff

[shadow valley]

[pulsar saddle]

you probably downloaded from this link: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/140565/en-us ?

instead of this: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/146343/en-us

[shadow valley]

so i take the 430 yeah?

[pulsar saddle]

if you intended to get the 430 one, then yeah

[shadow valley]

oh wait i can use the razer app to automatically dl

razer wtf

im high

i mean nvidia

[obtuse dawn]

Using the Razer app

[shadow valley]

i do want to make my keyboard look

cool

but im too dumb for it

and holy everything looks so sharp now

[obtuse dawn]

It does weird things with their headphones and system sounds

And yes, I know, using Razer headphones

[shadow valley]

using a blackwidow atm

keyboard

[obtuse dawn]

I'm using a Corsair with a ton of macro keys for the MMOs I don't play

[shadow valley]

i wanted a corsair k75 but the shop only had a k70

so i went with the white blackwidow intead

cause it looked cool

[subtle hawk]

for those that hate math

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvTqbM5Dq4Q

TL;DR

math is hax

[stable sonnet]

Isn’t the NSA working on a quantum computer

[subtle hawk]

not rlly no

they would need to buy it

from one of the manufacturers of one

but even then as the video explains

the computers aren't even close to powerful enough to crack something useful

[obtuse dawn]

(lemme repost with a more legible thing)

Let's see what the grader makes of this...

Have to include invalid requests as well as valid requests, and I might be getting a bit carried away...

Next up... Putting all this in a React app, just in time for the ~new~ version of React to drop and all the old documentation be no longer available!

[severe falcon]

TIL if my phone is on wifi, but the wifi cannot access the internet, the phone will refuse to use data until i turn wifi off

[obtuse dawn]

Odd, you'd think it would hand over without a fuss

[severe falcon]

It actually shows both the wifi with a ! to indicate is borked and 4G is next to it doing nothing

Also going from the highest limited data plan to the lowest unlimited data plan is a downgrade

Because now i physically cannot use usb tether or mobile hotspots and the internet is literally cut at my house due to the storm this morning

[obtuse dawn]

Ow

I'm with you on tethering, moving out on my own (finally) in the next couple years and going to make sure whatever phone plan my fiancee and I get includes mobile hotspot and tethering

[severe falcon]

Yeah cuz there is an unlimited plan(the most expensive one) that allows you to use tethering and hotspot, but it also has a bandwidth reduction after 20 GB

[severe falcon]

so WOT decided to be the first thing to tell me my internet returned, but it still claims i have no access and windows troubleshooter is ADAMANT that i MUST login to the special redirect webpage to access the internet. only that webpage doesnt exist. and i already have access. computers are frickin weird

[valid acorn]

Get windows 10

[severe falcon]

ill do it later

[subtle hawk]

u still use that ancient launcher?

[severe falcon]

U assume i even play WOT? It got to uodate only because it was the thing that told me my internet came back

[little needle]

Hmm

Were if I go for a 90 - 135$ price range. Which phone can I have?

[flint bobcat]

samsung 5-6

[valid acorn]

The A series is ok

[stone wave]

firefox pls

[shadow valley]

Best flagship phone?

Or previous flagships

[obtuse dawn]

TIL "application/application/json" is a valid content type that can really screw up passing data to a Heroku endpoint

[pulsar saddle]

interesting

but I couldn't find that on https://www.iana.org/assignments/media-types/media-types.xhtml or RFCs

is "application/application/json" non-standard then?

[subtle hawk]

not that

it's the parser he's using garbage

[obtuse dawn]

I blame Heroku

I'm honestly surprised neither Heroku nor Webstorm caught it as an invalid content type

I think it saw "application/json" (which is valid) and said "Yep! That's good!"

Or it's just blindly passing headers without verifying them

[subtle hawk]

more like your app framework @obtuse dawn

since all heroku does is route the requests to your app

[obtuse dawn]

All I've really learned from this assignment is how much I dislike React at the moment, truth be told...

[subtle hawk]

[subtle hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8elxpSu9pw

why did this pop into my recommended

[severe falcon]

Same but i didnt watch it

Was attempting to figure out how to make a flood fill algorithm

[subtle hawk]

react

[fast cypress]

another react

[valid acorn]

Hey umm, when is the next apple announcement

[obtuse dawn]

Google I/O, and no announcement for when a fix for this constantly popping up on live videos is going to be

[shadow valley]

what's a good phone to buy?

[subtle hawk]

a phone that works

[flint bobcat]

blackberry

[shadow valley]

looking at the pixel 3a

[valid acorn]

My friend said its better buy the pixel 2

[shadow valley]

im looking at both a flagship and a mid range
s9/10 has flagship atm, then pixel 3a at mid

[severe falcon]

dont you love the imprecision of floating points?

[severe falcon]

Also i have discovered that my desktop can keep time better than my phone, cuz my phone will get off track in a week if it doesnt update with utc

[severe falcon]

#define HELLA_THICCC = 0x7FF0000000000000

(double) HELLA_THICCC

[subtle hawk]

you can't define hella thicc

[severe falcon]

But i did define it, as positive infinity

Also anyone else playing Risk of Rain 2?

[severe falcon]

the extra c is because 2 c's cant contain it

[stone wave]

new pixels look like they might be a good bargain if one wants to stay away from having to import from China

they seem reminiscent of the Nexus lineup to me

[obtuse dawn]

The trouble with dual-booting... I use the key command to switch desktops and then realize I'm on the wrong OS.

[flint bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMudkRcwjCw

[tame topaz]

https://youtu.be/UCgoxQCf5Jg

Watch as a self-proclaimed "greatest programmer in the world" who wrote his own OS packed into two megabytes descends into uncontrolled madness

Schizophrenia's a bitch

[subtle hawk]

Oh boi templeOS

We wanted to put one of those on the CCDC practice range so bad to mess with blue team, but since networking is heretical and you kinda need networking on a practice range it fell through

[severe falcon]

am i allowed to meme in this chat?
https://youtu.be/mUQZ1qmKlLY

[subtle hawk]

somewhat

[subtle hawk]

https://github.blog/2019-05-10-introducing-github-package-registry/

[flint bobcat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gw0rXPMMPE

[trim forge]

I need a little help

I got a new phone recently
Its Chrome keeps wiping the address whenever I click on url bar and idk how to make it not

How do I stop it from auto clearing my current url when I clicknon the url bar?

It's a Pixel 3

The browser doing it is Google Chrome, which doesn't do it on my original Pixel

[subtle hawk]

@trim forge

it's a new change

the current URL is right below

it even gives u buttons to change or copy it

[trim forge]

@subtle hawk ah thanks, didn't see/realise that

[gloomy tinsel]

@subtle hawk 🦊

[subtle hawk]

Do you still have it?

The Optiplex

[gloomy tinsel]

I do, yes

Spec: Core 2 Quad Q8300, 8 GB DDR2, 2x80 GB hard drives, Nvidia GeForce GT 610

[subtle hawk]

Discreet GPU

[gloomy tinsel]

The power supply is a proprietary form factor, so upgrading it is not really a thing I can do

[subtle hawk]

Speaking of PCs, need to dust out my tower today lol

It’s been like 3-4 months now since my last cleaning(?)

[gloomy tinsel]

It seems to be just a taller version of an ATX PSU

[subtle hawk]

Wait, is the Optiplex a small form factor tower

Or a regular size

[gloomy tinsel]

It's a "midtower"

[stone wave]

I... bought a new case cause my old case was nasty

[gloomy tinsel]

and by "midtower," I mean it's a 35 pound, heavy metal behemoth

[stone wave]

Lol I know that feeling Revy

[gloomy tinsel]

I hate these older Optiplexes so much lol

[stone wave]

I got a Phanteks P600s... I underestimated how heavy my shit is

[gloomy tinsel]

My main PC is an ITX system

[stone wave]

At least the Optiplex has some plastic in it

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh no, you underestimate this shitty Optiplex

It is so fucking heavy

The plastic is nothing, most of the case is just metal

Only the trim is plastic

[stone wave]

My case is all steel with one side being tempered glass

[subtle hawk]

I’m curious to see it

[stone wave]

the only plastic are the removable filters

[subtle hawk]

My uni loves Optiplex pc’s

[gloomy tinsel]

Just look up Optiplex 760, that's the model

[subtle hawk]

we have a plethora of these

[gloomy tinsel]

Both of the 760's side panels are metal

[subtle hawk]

In every single classroom

[stone wave]

Surplus optiplex and other office PCs are a great entry into PC gaming

[gloomy tinsel]

and each of them is like a couple pounds

https://i.dell.com/das/xa.ashx/global-site-design WEB/723fdd43-582d-7791-7cd8-d2811a68ec0e/1/OriginalPng?id=Dell/Product_Images/Dell_Client_Products/Desktops/OptiPlex_Desktops/OptiPlex_760/hero/desktop-optiplex-760-left-hero-504x350.png

It's also not one of those "great entry" Optiplexes, sadly @stone wave. Proprietary PSU means that you're limited to 75W TDP graphics cards, and the form factor is microBTX not microATX, so there's very little room to put in a GPU

[stone wave]

How heavy?
My case alone is ~30 lbs. and probably 40 with the actual hardware in it.
https://www.amazon.com/Phanteks-Eclipse-Hybrid-Performance-Chassis/dp/B07N1NNJ52/

oof yeah

maybe a slim gtx 1050

[gloomy tinsel]

It might actually bottleneck a 1050 lol

for a lot of games

Core 2 Quad's not as good as it used to be

[stone wave]

c2q?

damn

yeah

the ones i see surplus'd are ivy bridge i5s

[gloomy tinsel]

I used to have a Dell Vostro with a Q8300 and a GTX 750 Ti

and lol the CPU bottlenecks

It wasn't actually too bad but I wouldn't recommend it over a Sandy or Ivy i5

I haven't weighed this PC, I just know it's heavy

[stone wave]

What I normally see are ex-office/campus/hospital units usually 4-8GB RAM, Ivy Bridge i5 with no storage

around $250-300 I think they were

[gloomy tinsel]

This one, I just picked up for free from uni some years back

I keep it around for fun but it's not a serious machine

It's basically a mutt that was kitbashed together from a few different uni Optiplexes

Two Optiplex 760s and an Optiplex GX620 died to create this one

[stone wave]

I used to have a P4 Optiplex running as a VOIP server

that thing was stupid heavy and used more power than it was worth

[gloomy tinsel]

I have a Pentium 4 machine! I keep it for retro games

P4 531

It runs Windows ME

[stone wave]

I think mine was a prescott

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, this one's Prescott

64-bit Prescott, actually

I have HT disabled though since Windows ME and older don't really do multiple CPU threads

[stone wave]

Windows ME

[gloomy tinsel]

It runs better on this hardware than 98

[stone wave]

I won't judge your lifestyle choices, but okay.

[subtle hawk]

tower form factor

[gloomy tinsel]

Windows ME with good drivers is actually very stable

[subtle hawk]

[stone wave]

I'm just meme-ing ME

But Windows 2000 Pro was my bae

[gloomy tinsel]

Can't use 2000 here, a lot of my games don't run on it

[stone wave]

oof

[gloomy tinsel]

These are pre-Windows NT games

a lot of them don't play nicely with 2K

[subtle hawk]

u know most dos games still run on windows up to XP

[stone wave]

luckily all the retro shit i ever feel like playing has been ported over to run on modern shit

[subtle hawk]

if not there's always retroarch

[gloomy tinsel]

The irony is that a lot of these games run better on Linux using Wine, than in modern Windows

[subtle hawk]

wine

bruh

[stone wave]

gog.com

[subtle hawk]

u know there's special emulation software for those games

wine won't cut it

[gloomy tinsel]

I do, there's DOSBox for actual DOS games

[subtle hawk]

dosbox

[gloomy tinsel]

and ScumVM

[subtle hawk]

ewwwwww

[gloomy tinsel]

for some other ones

[stone wave]

maybe revy is after that perfect midi sound

run the actual vintage hw for that shit

[subtle hawk]

if u want perfect midi

u need vintage hardware

[gloomy tinsel]

If I were after sound quality, I wouldn't have gone with the sound card I did lol

It's just that a lot of this stuff does not run well in emulation or in Wine

That's why I have this old PC

[subtle hawk]

if you just throw it in the emulator and hope it runs

no

just like in wine you need to configure it

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, I know

The Pentium 4 machine:
P4 531 3GHz, 512 MB DDR, Radeon 9200, 120 GB SSD

[stone wave]

SSD you mean one of those flash cards?

[gloomy tinsel]

No, an actual Crucial BX300

[subtle hawk]

running at SATA 1 speeds

[gloomy tinsel]

Yep

[stone wave]

lol

[subtle hawk]

at that point a HDD is the same

[stone wave]

I'd have just gone for a compact flash card and adapter

[subtle hawk]

considering the bus is the bottleneck

[gloomy tinsel]

I had the SSD and I can't get rid of it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[stone wave]

ah so it was laying around

i see

[subtle hawk]

I turned my useless M.2 SSD into a flash drive

[gloomy tinsel]

The SSD does create a noticeable performance uplift, but a lot of the slowdowns in Windows ME/9x aren't related to storage I/O operations anyway, so in the end

Not much has changed

[stone wave]

i bought an adapter for my 500gb m.2....

lmao

its seeing... no use whatsoever

[gloomy tinsel]

What are the specs on that system anyway 🦊

[subtle hawk]

it's fun when you roll up with a 256 GB USB and be like "I heard u need to transfer something"

[stone wave]

I just bought a 3 pack of Corsair LL120 fans... cause apparently I hate money.

[gloomy tinsel]

Time to compare PC specs

[subtle hawk]

only 3

[gloomy tinsel]

because that is always a fun thing to do

[stone wave]

my shit kinda oldish

i7-7700k and a gtx 1080

[subtle hawk]

I took out the phanteks and the default corsair fans

[gloomy tinsel]

I was going to say "oldish means i7-6700"

[subtle hawk]

and replaced everything with LLs

[stone wave]

only 1 gen and the specs between the 6700k and 7700k are like the same

[gloomy tinsel]

They are

The 7700K was the laziest CPU Intel ever made

probably

[stone wave]

oh also im running the shit on a z170 board

[subtle hawk]

9900K wants to speak with you @gloomy tinsel

[gloomy tinsel]

It's not even strictly better since it doesn't have soldered IHS

[stone wave]

so 1 m.2 slot

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

9900K is lazy and stupidly overcosted, but at least it's double the cores

7700K was just 6700K, minus soldered IHS, plus slightly higher stock clocks

[subtle hawk]

so we sharing pc specs?

rolls up sleeves

hold my beer

[stone wave]

i RMA'd my AIO cause it got recalled

[subtle hawk]

do we go gaming pc or all of them

[stone wave]

flagship

[gloomy tinsel]

Flagship system

[subtle hawk]

in terms of what

[stone wave]

otherwise i feel like you gonna link half a dozen systems and 3 servers

[gloomy tinsel]

The one you use mainly

[subtle hawk]

so I take gaming

[stone wave]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/mithikx/saved/3csLkL

[subtle hawk]

ayit

[gloomy tinsel]

Main PC:

Ryzen 5 1600
ASRock AB350 Gaming-ITX/ac
16 GB Corsair Vengeance LPX
490 GB worth of SSDs
MSI Radeon RX 460

Not a gaming system really

[subtle hawk]

16gb ram

[gloomy tinsel]

It runs Fedora 29 across an LVM group that spans all the SSDs

because of course, since I run Linux I have to mention it

That is standard practice, yes?

[subtle hawk]

i7-8086K @ 5.3 GHz (8700K @ 5.0 for more stable play)
32 GB Trident Z RGB 3000 MHz
Samsung 970 PRO 500 GB and 850 EVO
2 WD Reds 3 TB in a RAID 0
Asus Strix 1060 6 GB
MSI Gaming X 1080 Ti
Nvidia Founders 2080 Ti

[gloomy tinsel]

8086K

Also you have three GPUs, are you doing GPU passthrough

[stone wave]

I actually like the 8086k for the throwback name.

[subtle hawk]

nah

it's a gaming rig

what VMs

and the mobo can only hold 2 at once

Is your PSU the North American power grid?

Damn

so I shuffle between them based on what I need

I also wrote a small virus like program to take over GPU handling from NT

[gloomy tinsel]

lol

[subtle hawk]

and force programs like discord and chrome to use the 2nd GPU for hardware acceleration

bcz there's too little ppl running dual non SLI/Crossfire GPUs for Microsoft to add full GPU switching support

outside of Nvidia Optimus and their own hardware detector

that only works with APUs

[gloomy tinsel]

You know, I considered downgrading to an R5 2400G for multiple GPU memes in an ITX form factor

but, not worth it

[stone wave]

get a dual tower cpu cooler like the noctua d15 and use it in an itx build

those always look funny to me

[gloomy tinsel]

I don't have room for that in my case

[subtle hawk]

I should upgrade to a lian li case and finish that custom loop for this system

[stone wave]

i'd imagine, a dual tower dual fan cooler is like the size of an itx board almost

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm in the "ITX should mean you have a tiny case" camp and so I have an ITX cube that measures about 1 foot

[subtle hawk]

if u want smol pc

get the corsair one

gud shit

and quiet

[gloomy tinsel]

Too expensive for me

[stone wave]

I almost went with an ITX build in a NZXT Manta

(the Manta is the size of a mid tower)

[gloomy tinsel]

I can't justify a Corsair One, not when I don't do that much GPU intensive stuff

[subtle hawk]

to each their own I guess

[gloomy tinsel]

Besides I prefer AMD GPUs

[subtle hawk]

actually

didn't corsair start selling the 1000D?

[stone wave]

i think so

didnt look cause that thing is big af and expensive af

[subtle hawk]

gud, gonna need to order one then

[stone wave]

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

Too big for me

[subtle hawk]

fit both my and my gf's system in it

[stone wave]

2 gamers 1 computer

[subtle hawk]

one is full intel/nvidia

the other is full amd

all 3 brands in one case

[stone wave]

yamato crossing the beams!

[subtle hawk]

watch /r/ayyymd and /r/intel get sooooo triggered

I could probably get away with sharing the storage by using the NAS

[gloomy tinsel]

I carried over my old GTX 750 Ti into my Ryzen PC, so for a time I had a Christmas tree build. Before it died

[subtle hawk]

christmas tree is one thing

but have u seen thanos pc before

[gloomy tinsel]

🤔

[subtle hawk]

and I don't mean all purple

but have the RGB arranged like the stones in the infinity gauntlet

[gloomy tinsel]

I haven't seen that, no

[subtle hawk]

lemme get that pic from my phone

[gloomy tinsel]

I don't have RGB, it would distract me

[subtle hawk]

had the 1060 and 1080 Ti at that time in

[gloomy tinsel]

Too much

[subtle hawk]

I can snap my pc and half the universe is gone

[gloomy tinsel]

From all the electricity you used up?

[subtle hawk]

[stone wave]

my AIO is in RMA so yeah

[subtle hawk]

lets

see

[stone wave]

also got a vertical mount cable thing and some cable combs on the way

[subtle hawk]

fired up a game, now I should see how much it draws

[stone wave]

so please pardon the mess

[gloomy tinsel]

My PC isn't anything much worth taking a picture of

[stone wave]

Yamato triggers a local brown out.

[gloomy tinsel]

It's just one of these cases
https://images.tweaktown.com/content/6/2/6209_31_cooler_master_elite_110_mini_itx_chassis_review_full.jpg

[stone wave]

smol

[subtle hawk]

as if

this rig sips power compared to the servers

[gloomy tinsel]

If Navi proves good, I might finally upgrade from my RX 460

[stone wave]

when you say Navi my mind reads it as NaviKing

[subtle hawk]

http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/98fcq.png

[gloomy tinsel]

🤔

[stone wave]

unlimited-power.gif

[gloomy tinsel]

It's still a lot compared to most systems

but, goes without saying

[subtle hawk]

I wonder if I can overload the PSU with everything under stress

LET'S FIND OUT

[stone wave]

lol

[gloomy tinsel]

I don't think I've even broken 150W on my system

[subtle hawk]

650W

[gloomy tinsel]

Oh, laptops. We can compare those too 🦊

[stone wave]

my laptop... is old

[subtle hawk]

laptops be sipping 60W

[stone wave]

2014 (I think) x1 carbon

[subtle hawk]

2015 MacBook pro

[gloomy tinsel]

My laptop is new but doesn't feel very new, if that makes sense

[stone wave]

mine isn't even FHD

[gloomy tinsel]

Elitebook 735 G5

Ryzen 7 Pro 2700U

Runs Ubuntu 18.04, with Anbox for AL

Anbox is cool but also really bonky

[stone wave]

my laptop doesn't even run AL over Nox at a reasonable level for me to bother with it

[gloomy tinsel]

Anbox is nice in that it's not an emulator, it's just an Android runtime that runs on top of Linux

so it's super fast and efficient

[subtle hawk]

I run AL on my phone

[stone wave]

ah

i could try that some day

[subtle hawk]

I mean it is a phone game

[stone wave]

it is!?

[gloomy tinsel]

Whoa

mind blown

[stone wave]

I hate how the game goes loading... every single time i tap something

when im on my phone that is

[subtle hawk]

upgrade ur toaster internet

or the wifi

[stone wave]

im like 10ft from the router

so idk what the deal is

[subtle hawk]

it only shows loading then it waits for the server to send the payload

[gloomy tinsel]

Could be a lot of factors

• Bad router
• Interference from neighboring routers
• Phone just being bad

• Bad ISP

[stone wave]

either way when im at home i just use my pc so its not a big deal

[gloomy tinsel]

Consumer grade routers are almost universally bad

[subtle hawk]

not rlly

[stone wave]

i cheaped out on mine if im honest

[subtle hawk]

I mean if ur expecting something good from 100$

well

[stone wave]

so no tomato or any fancy firmware on it

[gloomy tinsel]

I totally do. I got a used R6300v2 for like $60 and put DD on it, and it is fantastic

[subtle hawk]

keyword

used

[gloomy tinsel]

The stock firmware is bad bad bad though

[subtle hawk]

I'm talking brand new

without reflashing

if u want smth good u have to pay up

I personally have a monstrosity of a network solution

[gloomy tinsel]

I do too lol

[subtle hawk]

custom PFsense router with a cisco managed switch

[gloomy tinsel]

The main router here is a Pepwave Surf SOHO, and the R6300v2 acts as a dumb AP to cover the other half of the house

That Surf cost like $200 I think

[stone wave]

All I'm using is a Motorola MB7220 modem, Linksys EA6100 router.

[gloomy tinsel]

I don't remember, it's been there for a while

[stone wave]

Very basic

[subtle hawk]

as for wireless I got some ruckus access points

doe the far distant outdoor one is a cheap router

put in AP mode

[gloomy tinsel]

There are also a buttload of unmanaged switches for stuff

[subtle hawk]

the ISP is a pain in the ass sometimes

[stone wave]

how many ethernet ports you need? cause if you're using multiple switches might as well go to a rank mountable one

[subtle hawk]

bcz their engineers look at the pfsense router and are like "wtf is that we can't manage this"

[gloomy tinsel]

Not practical to do one big rack mounted switch due to the layout of everything

Would have to drill a lot of holes in walls to make that work

[stone wave]

im using Comcast

[subtle hawk]

pay respects

[stone wave]

i dont even want to know what happens if i try to setup pfsense

cause they told me my router might cause problems when i went out to buy my own

and im like smh

[subtle hawk]

bull

fuking

shit

[stone wave]

yeah

[subtle hawk]

they say that to keep you leasing their router

[stone wave]

i was actually leasing one from them cause i was a lazy fuck

[gloomy tinsel]

and their router is shit

[stone wave]

but the thing kept resetting on me

or dropping the connection

[subtle hawk]

well ye

[gloomy tinsel]

ISP routers are always shit

[subtle hawk]

so do mine

they all reset at 3 AM

the APs atleast

the router and switch are one 24/7 duty

[stone wave]

my current setup runs fine 24/7

like when it reset

the connection stays dropped

until i hard reset the modem

i was like this aint worth $10 a month or whatever

[subtle hawk]

sounds very comcast like

[gloomy tinsel]

Mine runs 24/7, except for the one powerline Ethernet connection that sometimes hiccups. Not much that can be done about that though

[subtle hawk]

nah I'm all about that wired

wifi if there is no other way

and even then on 5GHz

[gloomy tinsel]

Some devices here still require 2.4 GHz

otherwise, would've moved entirely to 5 GHz by now

[subtle hawk]

that's why I have a 2.4 AP

but it's very restricted

[gloomy tinsel]

All the APs and routers here are dual-band, so I just have a separate SSID

[subtle hawk]

had this recent Huawei meeting

they showed off their 5G solution

[gloomy tinsel]

And was it a small tower you put in your house?

[subtle hawk]

nah

it was meant for ISPs

like antennas for towers

[stone wave]

a tower like a toaster or a tower like a christmas tree

[subtle hawk]

relays

trancievers

[stone wave]

that's a little much isnt it

[subtle hawk]

lots of gud stuff

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm really not that excited for the first wave of 5G mobile devices

[subtle hawk]

they used one of their upcoming flagships to demo a speed test

[stone wave]

i think i might be in the minority but i dont use enough mobile internet to care all that much

[gloomy tinsel]

I'm sure they'll be super fast, but I also have that suspicion that battery life will be trash at first

[subtle hawk]

5G is not about speed

it's about concurrency

and low cost of upgradeablility

[gloomy tinsel]

🤔

When we speak of concurrency, are we talking about multiple radios? That's still going to be extra power draw

[subtle hawk]

ppl think that 5G is something the consumer will benefit from in the first place

nah nah nah the first ppl that will profit from it is providers and manufacturers

[stone wave]

so more users in a given spectrum

[subtle hawk]

concurrency for the infrastructure

not the brick that u call a smartphone in ur pocket

[stone wave]

hey now my phone isn't a brick
(yea it is cause its got a big ass otterbox defender case on it)

[subtle hawk]

most techtubers and sites show how great 5G is gonna be for the user

at corporate meeting like these we get to see the other side

[stone wave]

as an end user im just like eh

[subtle hawk]

like compared to how much companies had to spend for 4G and LTE upgrades

this will cost pennies

[stone wave]

how about the roll out?

will it take 300 years?

[subtle hawk]

nah

it's gonna be seamless and fast

in 2 stages

[stone wave]

thats nice

[subtle hawk]

1 5G over LTE

2 pure 5G

[stone wave]

watch the big 3 still nickel and dime us here in the US

[subtle hawk]

in the stage 1 the handshake and initial protocol establishment will be done over LTE

as well as voice calls, SMS, etc

then 5G takes over for the actual transfer

in stage 2 it will all rely on 5G

[stone wave]

Speaking of SMS, yo Google where's my RCS

[gloomy tinsel]

Nowhere

[stone wave]

Probably right next to my Columbia...

[subtle hawk]

sweeden should start testing of 5G city deployments soon

TL;DR 5G is more juicy if ur a provider than a consumer

[stone wave]

Still somewhat good news for me, cause in large emergencies mobile networks tend to get overloaded.

[subtle hawk]

5G won't

[stone wave]

And I live in a major city that can be prone to large natural disasters every ~75 years.

[subtle hawk]

since it will be able to hand off to LTE if needed

[stone wave]

(San Francisco)

[gloomy tinsel]

Fires and earthquakes 🤔

Hello from the East Coast

We have... nothing over here

[subtle hawk]

u have florida man

[gloomy tinsel]

Ok

That's fair

We have florida man

[stone wave]

Many people don't have landlines now a days, so the only communication happens over their phones or at a computer. And no wifi or internet when there's a blackout.

So everyone hops on their phones if something big happens.

Then RIP

[subtle hawk]

imagine the network exchange node in SF dies

worse than fire or earthquake

we had our killed by fire

no internet for the whole country for a month

[stone wave]

damn

[subtle hawk]

well we had some but it was like back in dialup age

[gloomy tinsel]

Beep beep boop

[subtle hawk]

till the backup node was set up

[stone wave]

landlines in my area went down, and stayed down for 2.5 weeks, fine for me cause i don't use DSL or a landline but the local businesses which rely on the landlines for credit card readers...

yeah

[subtle hawk]

smh

[stone wave]

bust out a Square card reader

[subtle hawk]

all readers nowadays use GSM

[stone wave]

or not at all

old school mom and pops tend to be behind the times

[subtle hawk]

then again ppl here still prefer cash over card

[gloomy tinsel]

I saw a few Windows XP machines in a business recently. It hurt my soul

[subtle hawk]

u haven't seen anything till u see a ATM running COBOL code

[gloomy tinsel]

Don't get me started on COBOL

[stone wave]

wow...

[gloomy tinsel]

I spoke to a guy who used to program COBOL

He was like "never again"

[subtle hawk]

yeahhhhh

maintaining COBOL code is next level aids

[gloomy tinsel]

Did you hear about the French airport shutdown a few years ago that was caused by a Windows 3.1 bug

[subtle hawk]

also I wanna speak to the genius that thought that re-entering the PIN after each operation is a good idea

[gloomy tinsel]

Windows

3.1

running an air traffic system

in like 2015

[subtle hawk]

not suprised

[stone wave]

they should back-grade to a super oldschool IBM setup

the ones that call the vendor when shit needs replacing

lmao

[subtle hawk]

military hardware still runs stuff closer to DOS than to modern stuff

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah

[subtle hawk]

I mean scientific gear still looks at USB like it's some alien technology

[stone wave]

i did work for a travel agency their shit is all text based

[gloomy tinsel]

Well, some part of it is on Linux now

I know they use Linux at NASA

[subtle hawk]

no shit

but it still uses serial ports

I mean I can see why

[stone wave]

I'd imagine NASA is all about that reliability

[subtle hawk]

analog communication is very reliable

[gloomy tinsel]

Serial ports are rugged and simple to implement

[subtle hawk]

unlike digital witch is very picky with signal strength and integrity

if you had to deal with satellites then it's even more so

[gloomy tinsel]

RS-232 is digital, not analog. It just sends one bit at a time 🤔

[subtle hawk]

from old analog ones you can gather data even if you're not straight on point with the frequency

[gloomy tinsel]

I still have a couple of systems with RS-232 serial ports

I don't actually use them myself

I think the Optiplex has one

[subtle hawk]

for the newer ones you have to keep the frequency locked on or else ripp all data

[gloomy tinsel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRlz_LLiHrA

[valid acorn]

[signal trellis]

Man running AL on Android Q is actually really nice with the new gestures. I don't have to reach for the top to go back anymore just swipe from the left or right

[quartz atlas]

u running a pixel?

[signal trellis]

3XL ye

but there are more devices than the pixel series

Look on Google's website if interested

Back up your account before you even think about upgrading though. you have to reinstall AL for it to work on Q

[quartz atlas]

i'll wait till Huawei pushes it to me i guess

[signal trellis]

I think a few Huawei phones are in the beta program

I know OnePlus is supported

The new back button will be some getting used to. I'm used to swiping from the left for menus and now that's a back gesture.

[quartz atlas]

i still prefer physical buttons tbh.

[signal trellis]

It's nice but I'm digging the new gestures. The app switching gesture needs some refining as it's difficult to access it from the home screen

[quartz atlas]

Personally, I never bothered to learn all the new features since android 8

[signal trellis]

I enjoy playing with them and seeing if I can implement it in my usage

One of my favorite features of Android is Android Beam. Every phone has it yet no one knows about it. It's SUPER useful

[quartz atlas]

It's useful when needed I guess

I've only used it once tbh

I don't transfer stuff from my phone much

[signal trellis]

It's not just for pictures. You can use it for the play store, chrome, any file.

If a friend it trying to show me an app and they're right next to me, the quickest and easiest thing to do is to tap phones and I have the app

[quartz atlas]

oh, i didnt know that

[signal trellis]

Yea. Super useful. I blew a few people's minds from that

I knew about it because I had a Galaxy S3 and that was an advertised feature on the phone. Then Android implemented it for all phones

All you have to have is NFC, which every phone has now

[quartz atlas]

amazing

i use my nfc for public transport

but i still prefer physical credit cards for purchases for some reason

[signal trellis]

I use Google pay all the time. It's easier since chip readers suck ass in the US

[subtle hawk]

my phone doesn't

and I have been testing Android Q for kernel compatibility

as well as ease of build

[subtle hawk]

one

just null the drive

a.k.a write all 0s or 1s across the entire drive

or just random garbled data

dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdX

[subtle hawk]

@unborn flicker if you're trying to avoid tools that read data without damaging the hdd, just once is fine. If you're really paranoid, you have to physically destroy the platter

(US military policy is to detonate thermite inside any computer with top secret data that's getting retired, but just taking a hammer to the platter and turning it into a bunch of tiny piecesis enough to stop literally anyone)

that being said few people have the tools or skill to recover data that has been overwritten at least once

[severe falcon]

That reminds me of the instructions to the us bombariers in ww2 planes. If they were crash landing or going to ditch in the ocean, their first task was to empty their service pistol into the bombsight

[severe falcon]

Except technically its not wiped

[severe falcon]

No i meant like im pretty sure they can still pull stuff off of it that isnt the random gibberish

Oh then who cares

Uhh so there WAS sensitive stuff on it? Cuz im saying that they can un gibberish it

No like im not saying they can decipher the code, im saying they can literally just find out what was overwritten no matter whats on top of it

Well yeah

My teacher said that forensics got the data off a laptop hard drive that was burned in a car fire

Im pretty sure the platter was actually broken and charred and they still got the info, but i think it was just deleted stuff

Yeah multiple passes is gonna be good

[gloomy tinsel]

Anyone here heard of an EVC connector? Because until just now, I sure hadn't

And now a GPU has come into my possession, and it has one. It looks infuriatingly like a DVI-I port

[stone wave]

I think I came across a Dell of some sort that had one.

[gloomy tinsel]

It's mad, it looks just like a DVI-I port but it isn't physically compatible

[stone wave]

you might need a splitter

or an adapter

[gloomy tinsel]

Yah, I ordered a splitter

It outputs two DVI-D signals

[stone wave]

yeah

[subtle hawk]

h

[valid acorn]

Some people say the pixel 3a is not a worth

[subtle hawk]

lmfao

🤡

cant wait for Apple fans to say Apple invented having a 3 camera setup

[tame topaz]

Yep

Too bad the Nokia 9 kinda sucks.

[subtle hawk]

i wish i could use Huawei wihthout sacrificing my soul to the CCP

their probably stolen tech is insane

[tame topaz]

Meh

I don't mind that much

Good tech for good price = I'm game

[subtle hawk]

i mean ig but like

Huawei software is dogshit from what i hear

[tame topaz]

I have a cheapo Meizu phone rn

Really good processor for the price

But the software side is shite

Very bad memory management

And still stuck at Android 7

[subtle hawk]

yikes

im kinda sad since my phone is probably not getting Android Q

[tame topaz]

Like I literally cannot play AL and then switch to Discord without the former closing on me when I switch back

[subtle hawk]

oh that lmao

[valid acorn]

I dont like Huawei chipset

[subtle hawk]

i just split screen that

[tame topaz]

Multi-window doesn't work either

[valid acorn]

Don't know why it sucks for gaming

[subtle hawk]

[tame topaz]

One of my classmates got a Mate 20 Pro for his birthday and it looks amazing

[subtle hawk]

lucky bastard

[tame topaz]

Impressive how they manage to pull off Samsung-style edge display

[valid acorn]

Buy a P30 pro and you just became a stalker, or maybe a paparazzi

[subtle hawk]

they probably just got the displays from Samsung idk

but like

the low light camera on that thing is insane

[valid acorn]

Chinese phones are like a copy paste of an original phone (ideas)

[tame topaz]

Still can't believe how I managed to snatch the Nokia 8.1 for absolutely dirt cheap for my brother last december

[subtle hawk]

yeah but as far as im concerned, the high end Huawei phones have yet to be rivaled in most regards

[tame topaz]

And by cheap

[subtle hawk]

but why drop twice as much for a mate 20 pro when you can get idk a pixel 3a

[tame topaz]

I mean 43 bucks.

[valid acorn]

Huawei P30 vs Samsung S10

[tame topaz]

New in box, full warranty.

[subtle hawk]

S10 5G model when

apparently that thing is even bigger than the S10+ so that kinda defeats the purpose

[valid acorn]

Isnt S10 5G?

[tame topaz]

No there's a specific 5G version

[subtle hawk]

and its apparently insane

but like

why buy that

[valid acorn]

Have they been trolling us this whole time

[subtle hawk]

just wait for the Note

and then theres the Fold

[tame topaz]

Gotta start somewhere.

[valid acorn]

Fold

[tame topaz]

Seriously I've been wondering for the longest time ever since the notch first came out

[subtle hawk]

i hope Huawei's fold phone flops since they probably got most of their tech from Samsung anyways

[valid acorn]

Making people to broke in like a second

[tame topaz]

Why phone makers couldn't just punch a hole in the screen for a camera

And voila

Infinity-O

[subtle hawk]

honestly i'd take an ugly ass notch depending on the type of infinity o

like the S10+ punchout is just unacceptable

[tame topaz]

Still freaking love the A80's camera.

[valid acorn]

How many MPs does the rear cameras have?

[tame topaz]

Once again like all mechanical cameras durability gets called into question.

[subtle hawk]

idk the details of cameras

i honestly couldnt care less about phone cameras

just as long as its not Nintendo 3DS quality

[valid acorn]

US markets gets the Snapdragon

While the others get the Exynos

[tame topaz]

Observe.

[subtle hawk]

what the hell

[tame topaz]

That's Samsung for ya

[subtle hawk]

but will it pass the bend test

[tame topaz]

That's the question

Really cannot deny the coolness factor though

[subtle hawk]

can they invent a new type of screen glass so jerryrigeverything can stop saying "scratches at a level 6 with deeper grooves at a level 7" every single video

[tame topaz]

That type of screen is sapphire

[subtle hawk]

make it mainstream smh

[tame topaz]

By now it's essentially a running gag lel

[subtle hawk]

rip

[valid acorn]

AMOLED vs OLED

[tame topaz]

More phone makers need to include preapplied screen protectors

[valid acorn]

Preapplied screen protectors

What type of screen protectors

Tempered glass?

[subtle hawk]

idk what type of screen thing i have but its like a weird film thing

[tame topaz]

Just the acrylic kind

[subtle hawk]

probably offers no protection whatsoever but it feels really nice

[tame topaz]

"tempered glass", yes

[valid acorn]

Mine is a blue light filter tempered glass

[subtle hawk]

nice

[tame topaz]

Cool

[subtle hawk]

honestly i sometimes wish the S8 wasnt curved since tempered glass is hard to use

throwback to my S5 when the tempered glass was easy since it was a flat screen

and being able to remove battery

[valid acorn]

Aaah

[tame topaz]

At least the S10 is not curved

[valid acorn]

The good ol days

[tame topaz]

Good ol' days of a removable battery

[subtle hawk]

good old days of chunky bezels and ugly OS

[valid acorn]

Ha ha

[tame topaz]

I still remembered when mom first bought her first smartphone

It was truly mindblowing

HTC Wildfire S

[subtle hawk]

damn

[valid acorn]

Did HTC went bankrupt?

[molten junco]

oh

1+7 pro launch event live

[subtle hawk]

Oh shit

[shadow valley]

meh another notch phone

[subtle hawk]

Okay but like

[molten junco]

no notch lmao

just like in the leaks, triple cameras, motorized hidden front camera

[shadow valley]

hmm

moving parts

[tame topaz]

Almost time now.

[subtle hawk]

[quartz atlas]

inb4 ray tracing announced

[tame topaz]

Navi might as well support DXR

[shadow valley]

anyone got a rough idea of the oneplus 7 price?

[quartz atlas]

more expensive than the previous one

probably

[gloomy tinsel]

$700 US for OP7 Pro @shadow valley

Regular OP7 not available in USA. UK price: 500 GBP (about $650 US)

Source: Anandtech

[subtle hawk]

Damn

Kinda tempted to sell my phone and get a 7 pro

[valid acorn]

1+ with no wireless charging