Gravis Ultrasound ftw
#technology
subtle hawk
wut
tame topaz
Fiddling about with DOSBox
subtle hawk
Oh
tame topaz
Though sadly some of the funner "twangy" sounds of normal FM sound is sadly lost.
subtle hawk
That's exactly why
it's boring
subtle hawk
Quality
subtle hawk
@ruby girder that's only your opinion
I have both a macbook and a surface
and they're extremely powerful when it comes to productivity
Yup
I own a Surface Pro myself lol
subtle hawk
Not so much for most...flagship...phones?
Eh
Ya
For everything except Apple's
@ruby girder please not everything is about performance
nobody really sits around running cinnebench or smth the like all day
MacOS is as close as you can get to Linux without going to that horrendous APCI
and not all development is done on Linux
mental coyote
Eh. More like MacOS is a mutant BSD, if you trace back to the Darwin bit. But, I can see where yer coming from. And yes, ACPI on Linux still hurts.
subtle hawk
@mental coyote somewhat
I mean Linux also has roots in BSD
so they're very similar
with some minor differences here and there
mental coyote
I swear. If proper BSD ran better on newer hardware ...
subtle hawk
no
BSD should die
it's old and obsolete
it's like windows xp
it's old, dead but ppl still use it
mental coyote
Damn. Bit harsh, Yamato.
mental coyote
If nothing else, its security defaults ain't half bad.
subtle hawk
I can say the same about other OSes
but I digress
I personally use 
or very rarely 
or 
for server stuff that is
for the workstation it's good 'ol 
mental coyote
Arch or its wacky descendants, linux-side. Pro, W10 side.
subtle hawk
yes but when you need stability it will fuck you up
unless ur using version locks
like I do on some core components
mental coyote
True. But you and I both know how to get around that kinda shit. LTS kernel, lock xorg, yadda yadda.
subtle hawk
unless ur me and u like to live dangerously with bleeding edge kernel
mental coyote
Then Debian's the opposite: so damn conservative, yer best running it on specifically selected hardware. Not, for example, a newer laptop.
subtle hawk
exactly why it's good on a server
it's stable and straightforward
and up to date
unlike and it's free cousin
mental coyote
Oh. I'm certainly not hating. Did Deb for years, before I hit the Arch side.
mental coyote
A decent blend of newer software and stability's SUSE, tbh. YAST is also a hell of an admin GUI.
mental coyote
Tumbleweed, certainly. I didn't have too many issues with their stable release. Although, it's been some years.
subtle hawk
I'm still trying to figure out the hydra that is postfix, dovecot, spamassassin and all the related ones
mental coyote
Heh. I stopped at just setting up Thunderbird.
subtle hawk
that thing is sooooooo annoying to get confogured
but I will make my docker image
whenever it likes it or not
subtle hawk
windows server
nice meme
literally the only OS that handles threading worse than windows
it's not a meme
it's actually a very useful OS if you have to work with a lot of windows clients
worn karma
personally I hope people keep using Windows XP
it'll be fine practice for the new generations of penetration testing
😛
severe falcon
oh they will until XP becomes the most hackable system on the planet and companies have to switch the literal backbone of their entire system thats been running since XP was new
severe falcon
you make a good point
Btw my powerbank came in today but its bigger than i thought
just a wee bit bigger
oh great my phone cant tell whats up or down anymore
are accelerometers actually just stupid
also @subtle hawk confirm/deny
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/461381136661217283/539504867484631070/unknown.png
severe falcon
26,800
worn karma
nice. anker?
severe falcon
yep
severe falcon
if only i knew how much my pi and fan actually draw
worn karma
there used to be a program that tried to tell
that might be a neat project to play with sometime
something to determine how much a PC might be drawing
or any bit of tech
or I may be out of my mind and forgetful
and there already is
severe falcon
well i know that theres a meter that you can attatch to microusb that will say the amps going through it
worn karma
Yeah, there's some hardware options sure
subtle hawk
That's gonna last for days maybe
severe falcon
well i cant use software, cuz it wont know the fan draw or the screen draw
worn karma
well which version of the pi is it again?
severe falcon
3
subtle hawk
Use some hardware meters v
severe falcon
hmm so i think my load is around 10% average, so my pi would take around 410, the screen takes around 460, and the fan takes around 60 so thats 930, round it up to 1000 and it can last 26.8 hours
worn karma
severe falcon
and yeah @subtle hawk ive seen those before
the fan actually works crazy well, kinda makes you think how hard our phones could work if they had a lil air blowing over the cpus
subtle hawk
It would be awesome but no thanks
subtle hawk
@severe falcon I'm umiko in that pic
severe falcon
which one is umiko?
or is darcc one umiko and my brain can only remember AHAGON
im def the one with her head on the desk wondering why fixing one bug caused 27 more
tame topaz
Welcome to programming 
severe falcon
its not a welcome when half of them are heisenbugs
also darcc one is umiko and i really need to watch the 2nd season
btw found out my work has gigabit
so i may or may not have had the best youtube experience over the weekend
tame topaz
Nice.
severe falcon
oh also i have a hardcoding story for you @subtle hawk
one of my programming teachers worked for lockheed as a systems architect for the F-16 C Block 52's mission control computer, which had 8 identical processors that would split all the tasks(flying the jet, tracking targets, using weapons, etc.) up between them, and they hardcoded all 255 ways that one or more of the processors could die and how to spilt the resources up based on priority. the 256th way it could break was that all of them died so they didnt need to program that
subtle hawk
@severe falcon welcome to embedded systems programming
where u have to handle everything
severe falcon
Welp my prof in class and the rest of my classmates are using jupyter for python, and it just showed a memory address that seems to indicate that whatever system jupyter runs on has over 1.7 TB of ram
Actually i think its not actually showing the physical memory address cuz apparently it says my pi with 1 gig of ram is adressing up to 1.8 gigs
brave anchor
CPU usage spiking? Maybe you emulator cause it
brave anchor
You CPU is?
subtle hawk
vale raptor
Check the Task Manager and see which program uses it most.
brave anchor
203 process, woah
subtle hawk
i think i should change my CPU
brave anchor
You may need to restart your PC for once
subtle hawk
but if i change my motherboard and CPU does that mean all my programs are uninstalled?
brave anchor
Up time 14days
subtle hawk
vale raptor
Not necessary. It's mist likely a software eating your processing power
past bison
i used to have my pc turned on without restarts for up to 45 days
subtle hawk
Me 2
brave anchor
He still using 4th gen
past bison
im on a 3rd gen intel core cpu, nothing wrong with those old intel cpus
vale raptor
But that kind of spike must be a cause of AV or a random Microsoft program.
subtle hawk
Old is quality inefficiency
vale raptor
A virus too but cannot say with further evidence on your case.
subtle hawk
what does uptimes mean
Just malwarebytes it
How long your PC is on
That's uptime
i was thinking that since my CPU is almost 7 years old its not compatible with my new RTX 2070
Not really but maybe
brave anchor
It just bottleneck abit
subtle hawk
pity though my MB is DDR3 and now i need to buy a DDR4 MB with a new CPU most likely i7 8k
but is Ryzen a good alternative?
vale raptor
On thr Task Manager, click the CPU label up top to see the program eating it most. It's an i5 CPU, more better than mine.
subtle hawk
4460 already bottleneck 980 Ti/1070 in some games v
brave anchor
Ryzen is good enough
brave anchor
Ryzen 7 3600
subtle hawk
1060 6GB is the limit for that CPU of yours
brave anchor
subtle hawk
lol
brave anchor
Ryzen 7 3000series is very Nice
brave anchor
Your task manager show that uptime
vale raptor
And your uptime is around 14 days
brave anchor
I got an old CPU running fx-6300
subtle hawk
oof
past bison
brave anchor
Still kicking good for YouTube
subtle hawk
It's quite the CPU v
vale raptor
If the CPU usage level is just like that for a long time, I could say that is suspicious.
subtle hawk
@subtle hawk You use a pirated version of Windows?
Those rage on CPU like nuts
I know I had that problem
On a Core2Duo
brave anchor
That dinosaur cpu
vale raptor
Probably because of the keygen on the bg. They run on the bg to keep your windows look genuine
subtle hawk
v
@subtle hawk What processes are using up your CPU clocks v?
post a screenshot
@subtle hawk nope
Firefox with 2 tabs is nailin
Chrome wins!
For the first time
subtle hawk
Adobe
Oh boy
vale raptor
Click the cpu label to sort it on the programs eating it most
brave anchor
Those things secretly eat your process
past bison
there is your problem, steam is updating something
vale raptor
There is a game and steam. Seems natural
vale raptor
Are you running wot at max settings?
subtle hawk
med settings :/
vale raptor
With RTX?
vale raptor
But you have RTX
vale raptor
Ok, if you think this is not natural, is your windows update on by default? Because it does consume processing power. I mean a lot of it for just searching the updates.
subtle hawk
No kidding
brave anchor
Windows 10
vale raptor
Superfetch stuffs to. I have configured my laptop to get rid of high CPU usage because of random Microsoft crap.
brave anchor
Lot of useless Microsoft stuff
subtle hawk
Firefox with one tab vs Chrome's 7
Am I dreaming?
vale raptor
CPU usage is not a hardware issue unless your PC doesn't boot anymore. It's just the programs using it.
subtle hawk
Unless the program using is problematic
vale raptor
So firefox quantum sucks now?
subtle hawk
lol
past bison
chrome isnt very easy on the system either but its easier on it than firefox in most cases
past bison
95 tabs in chrome...
subtle hawk
you think its wise for me to upgrade?
im just afraid that all my work and games will be uninstalled if i change a new MB and CPU
Just don't wipe your storage
And you'll be all good
Chrome you sneaky b-
past bison
the longer you have chrome open, the more memory it will eat... to a certain point
vale raptor
There's a tutorial on how to decrease CPU usage. It is not wise to spend money on new hardware unless you are really in need of it. But in case of fixing your issue, changing CPU or components shall lead on the same result.
^ with just lower values and a little cranked up performance with steroids.
vale raptor
Yes, because CPU usage is caused by your programs
past bison
im still on ddr3 memory as well, the memory isnt a bottleneck unless you do some scientific stuff in which case you most likely have a modern supercomputer at your disposal
vale raptor
Programs running on RAM works quite differently on CPU though they are related
vale raptor
Yes. Video card most common for graphics rendering
subtle hawk
Both use CPU and RAM
Games are RAM heavy (kinda)
Videos consume CPU
If there is no GPU
vale raptor
RAM doesn't do much unless it is a hardware requirement for a game
subtle hawk
I see
so its not a good idea to render videos while playing games
Yup
what does NOX use?
Sometimes NOX can be so laggy as heck
5% and 500 MB
vale raptor
Kinda, but encoding videos consumes more CPU than graphics card. This is very common on live streaming
past bison
i think nox uses the directx api if its just like memu with that
subtle hawk
Like OpenGL
vale raptor
But I heard opengl works faster
subtle hawk
Only you
vale raptor
Dammit intel, why u no make good graphics card..
brave anchor
@vale raptor because nvidia / AMD better than Intel graphics?
subtle hawk
Yup
brave anchor
So Intel give up
subtle hawk
Intel IGPU is for poor users v
vale raptor
And I regret buying a laptop 2 years ago just because it's i5
severe falcon
Is it win 8? Cuz when i had win 8, the system process would spike to 100% for literally no reason at all
subtle hawk
Win10 I hope
vale raptor
Welcome to windows 8
subtle hawk
I heard u talking shit about integrated graphics like I wouldn't find out
vale raptor
Slowest buggy os and difficult to use
severe falcon
And i mean 100% it forced everything else the comp to slow down, just cause 2 slowed to 5 fps when the CPU did that, the gpu was barely running
brave anchor
subtle hawk
Windows 8 is good for old CPUs actually
severe falcon
Not that old cpu apparently
subtle hawk
I use it on my decade old PC
severe falcon
So i went back to win 7 and now i havent had any problems
subtle hawk
about the whole browser wars
in the current state
Chrome and the Chromium project are the most efficient browser out there
2nd place goes to Firefox
Meh
Nope
vale raptor
Quantum was fast on first release, went heavy because of the updates
subtle hawk
Firefox is a good 3rd
3rd is Safari and WebKit
Firefox uses a gig on the first tab
@subtle hawk I've seen the benchmarks
the numbers don't lie
Benchmarks doesn't matter
they do
while Quantum is an amazing CSS renderer
brave anchor
Chrome feel smooth in old pc
subtle hawk
it's too inefficient
vale raptor
Why people post memes about chrome being a ram eater. I believe firefox should be the one
brave anchor
Chrome have much improved the RAM consumption
subtle hawk
Chrome+Edge = Waiting
brave anchor
Edge is no no to me
vale raptor
Didn't knew there was a deeper reason on that. Reaching css rendering lol.
subtle hawk
Edge on Chromium is starting to come together
I use Edge daily v
ripp Chakra
Yup
RIP MSFT
vale raptor
Vivaldi up up
brave anchor
severe falcon
Off topic but is there a graphics library for python where i dont have to actually download and install the library? Is there one that comes with python?
severe falcon
Tried searching for one but the results gave me the std library
vale raptor
Love the split screen
Gives me the advantage to work on tabs simultaneously. But does demand quite a lot of processing power.
mental coyote
Frankly, say what you will about Google, but it's their browser winning this incarnation of the browser wars. 
subtle hawk
Yup
Google gets what they want v
They killed Windows Phone
Will possibly kill Windows for Linux (please do)
And destroys in online services
mental coyote
Hell. I remember the last go-round. Netscape died, but its code was cannibalized into IE and 'fox.
subtle hawk
Except Azure
brave anchor
subtle hawk
I blame MSFT and corporations for the crap UI of Windows v
vale raptor
Don't kill windows. My games!
brave anchor
mental coyote
No. That Flat UI shit goes back to Apple/Google, imho. Then other OSes followed
subtle hawk
MSFT can get a rest for managing literally everthing from kiosks to vendor machines to pcs and atms but Android is like, wai?
severe falcon
(If anyone knows about the python graphics thing then @ me)
subtle hawk
MSFT also applied quality stuff like dark mode and tiles before anyone v
Too bad they lack brains
To move forward
mental coyote
News Flash: Ain't like Google doesn't want to replace both Droid and ChromeOS. Hello, Fuschia.
subtle hawk
Still not sold on it
mental coyote
Actually. Dark mode was in KDE/GNOME before MSFT even tried it.
Same with Aero transparency effects.
subtle hawk
In mobile?
mental coyote
No. In linux DEs.
subtle hawk
And first dark mode is literally the first OSes lol
white text on a black background
mental coyote
That was the ONLY mode, then. 
subtle hawk
And was quality too
Any more browser tests?
oi
Windows for Linux is great
or the short name of it WSL
Windows Mobile was garbage
Got it and not really
yes really
terrible kernel
terrible SDK
unstable drivers
lack of adoption
And I used continumm flawlessly for 2 years
mental coyote
I'm with Yamato on this. Frankly, MS may as well just dump the "New Technology" kernel for a linux or modded BSD one, already. NT kernel ain't progressed much in years.
subtle hawk
"the Microsoft fee"
severe falcon
i never had a problem with my windows phone
subtle hawk
Windows Phone is great
If only it was supported
well if all you do is text, call and listen to music it's acceptable
And if only MSFT wasn't crap
you need more apps? well you're SoL
Blames MSFT and Devs for apps
microsoft is a lot better than it used to be
mental coyote
They jumped the gun. You need an actual app ecosystem before you challenge the big guns, mobile-wise.
severe falcon
I mean was it really that hard to make apps for win phone? Its windows 8.1 when people broke it, it literally said to put in the cd to repair
subtle hawk
exactly, you need some groundwork before you can make an OS
a mobile OS that is
Windows Mobile is basically Windows RT lol
severe falcon
I had an app that wasnt in english that was made in unity in like a day, and it ran perfectly and never had a single problem
mental coyote
Now. They got the ecosystem. But, the market got burned and their mobile rep is shit.
subtle hawk
Yup
I mean the mobile market is very saturated rn
Windows Mobile ded in December 2019
mental coyote
Give Surface some time ... might be their way back in.
subtle hawk
one one hand you have iOS with tight security and reliability
@subtle hawk If they start again full force with Andromeda they will blast off everyone
Windows Phone was a thing at first afterall
on the other hand you have Android with their open source and wide variety of apps and combatibility
severe falcon
No idea what the title was but my best translation for it was "Unity-chan⭐homerun derby"
subtle hawk
1% of the market isn't a thing
@subtle hawk Windows Phone had 39% market share at one point v
when
in what alternate universe
I'll search of the graphs
severe falcon
In the alternate universe where azur lane started as a windows phone app
subtle hawk
That would be quality
nobody is gonna waste time rewriting something to C# or Visual C
mental coyote
Sure you didn't misplace a decimal point? 3.9% is much more believable.
mental coyote
Sirens got Windows phones, bro.
severe falcon
If they used apple, then they would already be dead from their "amazing features" that break everything
subtle hawk
Windows Phone Market share in US
mental coyote
My only issue with apple is the designed obsolescence angle. No reason to remove updates from hardware that can handle it, besides greed.
Their OS, itself, ain't bad at all.
severe falcon
I got my win phone in 2014 tho
subtle hawk
Got mine in 2012
severe falcon
13? Idk
subtle hawk
Still working
severe falcon
If i hadnt taken mine apart to look at all the cool bits then mine would still work
severe falcon
It was a $100 smartphone 3 years old, not like i could sell it for any amount of money
severe falcon
Mine was lumia 735
subtle hawk
Edge is yolo
Edge
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 1155.6ms +/- 5.9%
ai: 172.3ms +/- 8.0%
astar: 172.3ms +/- 8.0%
audio: 309.8ms +/- 6.1%
beat-detection: 81.2ms +/- 7.4%
dft: 73.0ms +/- 8.2%
fft: 66.9ms +/- 8.5%
oscillator: 88.7ms +/- 6.8%
imaging: 317.8ms +/- 5.6%
gaussian-blur: 83.2ms +/- 4.6%
darkroom: 145.0ms +/- 7.5%
desaturate: 89.6ms +/- 7.9%
json: 49.3ms +/- 8.0%
parse-financial: 29.8ms +/- 11.5%
stringify-tinderbox: 19.5ms +/- 10.4%
stanford: 306.4ms +/- 8.1%
crypto-aes: 90.4ms +/- 10.4%
crypto-ccm: 66.9ms +/- 8.0%
crypto-pbkdf2: 111.1ms +/- 10.2%
crypto-sha256-iterative: 38.0ms +/- 9.6%
Opera
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 1062.6ms +/- 6.3%
ai: 141.9ms +/- 8.3%
astar: 141.9ms +/- 8.3%
audio: 277.1ms +/- 9.2%
beat-detection: 69.9ms +/- 12.2%
dft: 104.8ms +/- 13.1%
fft: 49.1ms +/- 10.1%
oscillator: 53.3ms +/- 6.0%
imaging: 325.0ms +/- 6.4%
gaussian-blur: 127.1ms +/- 9.4%
darkroom: 128.9ms +/- 5.2%
desaturate: 69.0ms +/- 12.9%
json: 60.8ms +/- 7.5%
parse-financial: 38.1ms +/- 8.0%
stringify-tinderbox: 22.7ms +/- 13.0%
stanford: 257.8ms +/- 4.4%
crypto-aes: 67.9ms +/- 6.5%
crypto-ccm: 77.5ms +/- 7.3%
crypto-pbkdf2: 78.9ms +/- 4.6%
crypto-sha256-iterative: 33.5ms +/- 5.9%
Chrome 71
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 912.9ms +/- 5.8%
ai: 129.8ms +/- 8.4%
astar: 129.8ms +/- 8.4%
audio: 218.2ms +/- 6.7%
beat-detection: 55.3ms +/- 11.5%
dft: 83.6ms +/- 8.4%
fft: 36.1ms +/- 8.4%
oscillator: 43.2ms +/- 4.8%
imaging: 267.8ms +/- 5.3%
gaussian-blur: 94.2ms +/- 6.0%
darkroom: 125.2ms +/- 5.1%
desaturate: 48.4ms +/- 10.9%
json: 54.0ms +/- 7.4%
parse-financial: 33.8ms +/- 4.4%
stringify-tinderbox: 20.2ms +/- 15.4%
stanford: 243.1ms +/- 6.7%
crypto-aes: 64.0ms +/- 9.5%
crypto-ccm: 72.4ms +/- 5.9%
crypto-pbkdf2: 74.8ms +/- 7.9%
crypto-sha256-iterative: 31.9ms +/- 11.8%
Firefox 64
RESULTS (means and 95% confidence intervals)
Total: 858.7ms +/- 4.5%
ai: 74.6ms +/- 8.4%
astar: 74.6ms +/- 8.4%
audio: 263.9ms +/- 10.0%
beat-detection: 69.1ms +/- 6.0%
dft: 79.7ms +/- 8.8%
fft: 52.3ms +/- 10.8%
oscillator: 62.8ms +/- 34.4%
imaging: 217.0ms +/- 5.0%
gaussian-blur: 74.9ms +/- 4.1%
darkroom: 79.8ms +/- 6.3%
desaturate: 62.3ms +/- 6.6%
json: 59.1ms +/- 24.0%
parse-financial: 27.9ms +/- 23.4%
stringify-tinderbox: 31.2ms +/- 46.8%
stanford: 244.1ms +/- 6.6%
crypto-aes: 52.4ms +/- 7.0%
crypto-ccm: 65.0ms +/- 9.4%
crypto-pbkdf2: 93.0ms +/- 7.9%
crypto-sha256-iterative: 33.7ms +/- 5.8%
Done
severe falcon
Why cant python just come with a graphics library like java 
severe falcon
Python is so much more convenient than java for making my paint program
severe falcon
"Epic only cares about money" tfw unreal engine 4 is made by epic and is free, so go make your own game kek
severe falcon
Well yeah you have to pay epic a certain percent if you make over i think 2k per quarter on a game
But at that point you are making money from a game
subtle hawk
yup
severe falcon
Tbh its smarter than what photoshops scheme is
subtle hawk
@severe falcon http://nyamato.ban-hammered.me/i/5pqeb.png
And Unity
what about free?
If the game is free the engine is free as well
who in their right mind would make a absolutely free game
severe falcon
I literally read the part about percentage if 2k per quarter in the TOS for the engine when i downloaded it
So if they want to have their legally binding things contradict then they can take the legal risk
tame topaz
Flash games?
tame topaz
I mean there are absolutely free games on 3D engines as well
subtle hawk
severe falcon
subtle hawk
tame topaz
That's a hilarious link tho
subtle hawk
Anyone wants slipspace?
still think epic is good?
Nope
I don't play Fortnite v
there's a reason why I hate fortnite with a passion
severe falcon
You can make up to $3k per game per clendar quarter and dont have to pay epic a single cent
subtle hawk
I hate Fortnite as well v
severe falcon
And also if you arent actively covering your ass when it comes to monetary legal contracts then you are an idiot
Also i hate fortnite too, im not saying epics games are ok, but im saying they could be so much more greedy with unreal engine
severe falcon
Make your own damn assets and you dont have to pay a cent
subtle hawk
Takes time
severe falcon
Why program with C++ when scratch exists?
Why do it myself when someone already spent time and money making the thing but damn them if they try to charge for me using their stuff in my game to make money for myself
subtle hawk
I am not saying that v
Epic charges money with the price as royalty stuff
Unity and CryEngine are way more transparent about fees and shit
Yup
tame topaz
But eh, without them Ace Combat 7 wouldn't exist so
severe falcon
Well you dont HAVE to use epic's market place for assets
subtle hawk
I know
But still
severe falcon
But they put a royalty on everything?
subtle hawk
Yup
severe falcon
Thats a lil excessive
subtle hawk
Even on Fortnite purchases
severe falcon
Bruh put fortnite in the title of anything and i assume everything has a $20 markup
subtle hawk
I love how everything is becoming Chinese nowadays lol
severe falcon
But at least if you have the skill, you can do anything with the engine. I remember hearing from vrchat people that you have to pay $20 for a jigglephysics thing for unity
Anyway i think we can all agree that epic could be MORE greedy if they wanted to be
severe falcon
Well yeah the engine is one time purchase but you also have to pay for assets and modules
And i dont think you can legally modify the engine can you?
subtle hawk
One time purchase better than yearly cuts and modifications allowed if you have VS
severe falcon
Oh i guess those vrchat ppl are just stupid
subtle hawk
VRChat is filled with ugandan dimwits
@severe falcon all assets on all engines are paid
if you want free you make your own
Or use crappy open source ones
severe falcon
Yeah but can you not just make your assets free on the market?
subtle hawk
would you give out your hard work for free?
severe falcon
Well no but i remember seeing like demo stuff of an asset package that were free
tame topaz
Free games are a thing, y'know
subtle hawk
Fangames yes
severe falcon
Also there needs to be an unreal-chan to combat unity-chan
subtle hawk
Yup
🔼
epic aren't weeb enough
But we are
what intel needs to do
is follow AMD's steps
and weeb up
ez profit
severe falcon
Theres an amd chan and i didnt know about it?
severe falcon
Post plox i need to see it
severe falcon
AWWWW HELL YEAH
severe falcon
Bro i need an anime skin for the amd graphics cards
subtle hawk
Need a MSFT too
severe falcon
I would buy them just cuz anime
severe falcon
So is each level of amd cpus a different girl?
subtle hawk
no
severe falcon
I need my vishera BLACK waifu
subtle hawk
the redhead is Ryzen
the blondie is the Zen architecture
@subtle hawk We need a busty one for Threadripper
Because of dem power
power? not rlly
cores? definetly
severe falcon
Athlon, sempron, phenom, vishera, ryzen, threadripper
severe falcon
Did i miss one?
severe falcon
Also is that the right order of them?
subtle hawk
bulldozer
tame topaz
Ah yes. Ryzen-chan and Radeon-chan/
subtle hawk
with FX series
severe falcon
I get confused on athlon and sempron
tame topaz
Available in mousepad or square pillow form.
severe falcon
Isnt fx vishera?
tame topaz
Ah
subtle hawk
Ry-zen
v
tame topaz
I want that mousepad
severe falcon
OH ITS THE BIG PAD I NEED IT
Wait i thought athlon was a cpu not an architecture, or is it both?
severe falcon
Twins
subtle hawk
Windows 7/8+8.1 and 10, IE and Silverlight had waifus
Pentium M, Penryn, Nehalem, Bonnell, Larrabee, Sandy Bridge, Silvermont, Haswell, Skylake, Goldmont
Intel?
severe falcon
Sandy bridge better be san diego
tame topaz
there are lewds of IE
subtle hawk
Yup
severe falcon
What even is silverlight?
subtle hawk
I have an alternate MSFT ac with a lood aizawa
left (clockwise): Windows 98SE (in box), Windows 95, Symantec Antivirus (male), Windows 2000 (in front), Windows Server 2003 (fish outfit, with cat), Windows 98 (unusual form), Windows XP (holding skirt). Background, right: Windows 3.1, DOS (not their "official" os-tan). Foreground: Windows CE (fairy), Windows ME (levitated by CE).
Windows 8/8.1
Windows 10
ppl are dissing Intel for not having 10nm CPUs
Dem tops
but Cannon Lake is a thing
Yup
And Sunny Clove
granted it's not a new architecture but still
severe falcon
10nm? When does electron leakage become a real problem?
severe falcon
Me with 32nm over here
severe falcon
No wait i think its 35nm
subtle hawk
Look at all the Windows above lol
severe falcon
Whichever one is the more common one
severe falcon
Anyway yamato do you know any good graphics libraries for python? Im trying to make a paint program
severe falcon
Its either that or java and i hate how complicated the java stuff i did was
subtle hawk
I think Windows Azure has Claudia
severe falcon
Also its gonna be used for mainly pixel art so it doesnt really need to be that powerful
256^2 pixels at the most probably
severe falcon
Is that a program or a library?
severe falcon
Hmm ill look into it
I really just need to make a clone of a paint program i have, but add an N degree bezier curve tool to it
Apparently they expect a quadratic bezier to magically be the only thing you need for curves on any paint program ever
@subtle hawk did you mean imagemagick?
subtle hawk
v
severe falcon
No amount of 4 point beziers can mimic a 5 point bezier
Well im gonna attempt to mess with python cuz i think i can get the algorithm working easier and then go from there
subtle hawk
Good luck
subtle hawk
@subtle hawk now that's my kind of waifu OS
severe falcon
what even is that and why is it better than any other OS just based on anime girl looks alone
subtle hawk
It's arch
yeah
one of the best linux distros out there
She can be a bit difficult at times, but there's no distro that's cleaner
just like a IRL waifu
Gentoo can be a bit slimmer, but compiling everything
gentoo is for trihards
I know a guy that unironically runs it. Feel bad for him
F
Especially when his PC with Gentoo died and he had to redo everything from scratch
severe falcon
maybe ill put it on my next PC
severe falcon
thought so
subtle hawk
Everyone fucks their first arch install
unless you're proficient with Linux you're not installing arch
severe falcon
in my line of questioning i was tempted to add "why do i need and why wont it work on my comp"
subtle hawk
The installation process, even with the wiki handy, scares peeps off
I can't say I did break mine
doe in my defense I knew what I was doing
severe falcon
ok but breaking the install doesnt mean breaking the hardware right?
subtle hawk
u can't break hardware with software
actually
I'll take that back
Was about to say "stuxnet bro"
severe falcon
bruh auto-overclock would like a word with you
subtle hawk
the CPU has neat little safety valves
But ye, you're not going to brick your PC or anything with arch
so pushing it over board won't work
severe falcon
yeah it was reversible but i would call not booting definitely a break
subtle hawk
oh it will boot
severe falcon
mine didnt when i auto-OC'd mine
subtle hawk
all BIOSes will default if the POST doesn't pass a couple of times
unless it's a critical error
He probably meant boot to OS
severe falcon
no i meant bios
subtle hawk
that's called POSTing
severe falcon
we just jumped the reset pins and then didnt try to OC it after that
subtle hawk
or Power On Self Test
POST is nice, but it's sad most cases don't have beepers anymore
Makes it more annoying to debug unless your Mobo has its own readout for codes
severe falcon
my PC doesnt have a beeper, but i swear ive heard it beep before 
anyway as long as my parts arent gonna die from a failed install, i think ill test it on my current before i put the new PC together to see how to do it
subtle hawk
@subtle hawk both my desktops have 7 segment code readouts
one of them even has LEDs that signal the stage of the POST and a OLED display for showing more detailed info
severe falcon
i like it when mobos have a power LED
subtle hawk
it's 👌 when you overclock
lowkey I made the overclock profiles for all of my IRL friends on my motherboard
severe falcon
my old mobo (rest in peace) had the power LED and it held power for quite some time after turning the PSU off when the comp was also off
subtle hawk
my RGB does that
severe falcon
i hope you dont have the horrible rainbow RGB do you?
subtle hawk
I'm stuck with horrible rainbow rgb because the stupid board needs software to change colour
I have a lot of RGB profiles
severe falcon
i swear if you are one of those fornite dab compilation streamers with this kind of PC im gonna lewd z23 sensei
https://media.giphy.com/media/dalAKBkBak1S8/giphy.gif
subtle hawk
still have that Thanos RGB profile I made last week or so
had to use my 1060 Strix card to get the maximum effect
severe falcon
ok as long as you dont INTENTIONALLY have it set to rainbow or cycle rainbow its fine
severe falcon
remember, you made me do this
subtle hawk
@severe falcon do u have the stones?
severe falcon
subtle hawk
nice inspect element
severe falcon
bruh you know how i roll, i inspect ALL the htmls
subtle hawk
the pic doesn't do justice but the top left fan is actually orange
severe falcon
it still concerns me when i post stuff like this in #461381136661217283 and they dont know you can just change html on anything
"how did you get the bot to say that?" makes me cringe
severe falcon
maybe make the top front fan purple and set the ram to also be gold with the mobo
severe falcon
the top front fan
subtle hawk
this is how it should be in theory
severe falcon
this one would be the purple power stone
severe falcon
isnt this a seperate one?
severe falcon
OH I SEE IT NOW
subtle hawk
severe falcon
huh
subtle hawk
I can control the individual LEDs
severe falcon
then top half purple should fix it
subtle hawk
unlimited powa
severe falcon
see now this is the kind of rainbow that suggests your IQ is over 20
subtle hawk
even doe u need 2 different software panels to change them
3 if u include peripherals
severe falcon
Currently im outside fixing a slot so my battery wont slip when my rpi is on my lap
severe falcon
Welp it went better than expected, cuz it actually works
severe falcon
oh great, im attempting to download matlab and their website wont let me make an account
WHAT IT WAS ADBLOCK ARE YOU SERIOUS
subtle hawk
steramers
gay
are you using uBlock origin? if so what lists?
some lists can break sites
severe falcon
no it was just regualr adblock and i looked into the inspect view and it was blocking the authentication scripts
like the error was: BLOCKED BY CLIENT
vale raptor
You might want to temporarily disable it.
severe falcon
yeah i already fixed it and have it downloaded
severe falcon
sooooo, my 2 monitors both went black, but when they came back on they had swapped the windows, like youtube and discord swapped monitors, but the primary monitor is the same and im just really confused
tame topaz
How did that even happen?
severe falcon
i have no idea, i was just typing in #al-art when it happened and i dont have any hotkeys or anything like that
severe falcon
uhh it was just the windows, so i dragged them back to the right monitors and it hasnt "switched back"
tame topaz
Hm.
subtle hawk
tfw have no usb keyboard to setup a new os on my rpi
now I have my excuse to look for mechanical keyboard
which one do you recommend
tame topaz
Mechanical or nah?
@subtle hawk If you're seeking mechanical then I've heard the G Pro's pretty good
subtle hawk
ah
welp should have thought about this earlier because I just went to the store to buy an sd card
subtle hawk
nah, I already have K375s
but I lost its usb receiver
so bluetooth is the only way
tame topaz
Hm.
subtle hawk
oh whoops I thought you're referring to normal Logitech keyboards
since they named their keyboard models with K too
tame topaz
@subtle hawk I did mean Logitech oof
subtle hawk
Oh lol
subtle hawk
Decided to finally mine Monero
And Etherium
Alternating every 2 weeks
Time to try AArch64 os on this thing
And yeah this means I have to use a different linux distro
severe falcon
@subtle hawk wait does AArch64 even work on an ARM cpu?
subtle hawk
don't know
severe falcon
anyway. lemme know how it goes
subtle hawk
👌🏻
BTW is Monero mining good?
Or is Ethereum better?
@subtle hawk none because all of them crashed
tame topaz
I have a friend who does it for fun.
And to heat his room.
He also uses it as his main rig.
severe falcon
80+ F in my room at all times, is my heater better?
tame topaz
idk
subtle hawk
I use it to heat my room v
And I run it on solar so low bills
2 in 1 so can't really complain v
subtle hawk
Woohoo
severe falcon
Anyone know if theres a way i can get my pi to piggyback off my phone to connect to the wifi? I have 4G LTE but apparently a "network issue" means i cant use mobile hotspot and pi cant connect to univ wifi
subtle hawk
just use usb tethering
subtle hawk
@severe falcon you can't set up 802.1X?
mine auto-connects just fine
doe mine doesn't have the UI installed since I never need it
severe falcon
What do you mean set up 802.1x?
subtle hawk
1200H/s on my PC
224H/s on Surface Pro
Gotta say Surface is outperforming itself now
subtle hawk
'regular adblock'
there's adblockers other than uBlock Origin?
past bison
there is adblockplus, adblock, ublock and some other
subtle hawk
and 802.1x is assuming your school uses RADIUS for authenticating to wifi
ik deil, I'm just shitting on the alternatives
severe falcon
Oh yeah i had said this a week or two ago, but its 802.11b/g/n
mental coyote
There's also modifying the hosts file directly, to avoid ads and shit.
mental coyote
X a newer one?
subtle hawk
yes
802.11ax
@subtle hawk u don't have to use RADIUS to enforce it
there's also Diameter
@subtle hawk @mental coyote both of you
wrong
802.1X is a Port Network Access Control standard
it provides authentication for networks
both 802.11 family and 802.1 family are part of the 802 group
yes I'm aware, but good luck finding a network device that actually supports diameter
Oh 802.1
I mixed it with 802.11
but ye, it's a nice way to control who gets onto your network
can even set it up to operate over ethernet, so it's not just a wireless thing
(hence it being under 802.1 rather than 802.11)
v
But I loved everything wired
severe falcon
So is that the thing that tells my phone to open its browser and go to the auth page?
subtle hawk
@subtle hawk it was never a wireless thing
it was made initially for WAN and LAN networks
@severe falcon that's a catch page
severe falcon
ok so heres the problem my pi has, it can connect to wifi, but the catch page never shows up, even when opening the browser, so i cant actually get to the internet
subtle hawk
tethering from your phone or directly from your router?
severe falcon
just when connecting my pi to the school's wifi with its built in adapter
severe falcon
i dont really need to connect, its just that i was missing a dependancy for a program which meant the save as window couldnt display any directories on the pi, so i couldnt save until i fixed it. which was about 4 mins ago
mental coyote
Wow. I haven't seen ath x2/geforce combos since I owned an aspire like a decade ago. 
subtle hawk
That's some sweet heresy right there
flint bobcat
brave anchor
I gonna trade my desktop to ryzen notebook, barely play game on pc already
past bison
oh man... amd athlon... been over 10 years since i last heard of that
subtle hawk
Ain't it quality mining+heating?
brave anchor
It can cook the bacons
tame topaz
Can AL install on Adoptable Storage SD cards?
subtle hawk
Ya
broken ivy
Might as well preparing a windows 10 Installation Setup on my Flashdisk...
Just gonna need some one last fix b4 i can finally calm down...
subtle hawk
vv
Still going
I might die from this work v
access
what
also what is with you and typing v
what does it mean
tame topaz
Probably a verbal tic of some kind
subtle hawk
That's a habit
tame topaz
That's an odd one
subtle hawk
And I'm sure it'll be over 30 GB after sorting everything
what is it for
ISP Logs
And credentials
And personal data
All in 1
who stores those in access
My 'boss'
kek
Which is frustrating because Access isn't meant for such large files
at my carrier and ex workplace we used standardized storage
we had TB of logs
oof
mental coyote
That many logs, you got a damn forest.
subtle hawk
Thank god I compress logfiles to 7% in 7z
I have about 217~242 GB sized 7z files (yearly logs, apparently we have over 5000 connections) totalling about 2~2.5 T
@mental coyote well we have 70% market share
@subtle hawk Where do you work?
rn I don't
mental coyote
Yea, that'd explain Tb worth of logs.
subtle hawk
decided to focus on clearing the stage that's called uni
Where did you work before?
at my mobile carrier and telecom Orange,
at Ellation and at a few companies as a freelancer
Oh
I work for the main ISP of my country
Part time
Because their HQ is close to my home
when I finish uni I'll have a degree in processor engineering and integrated systems engineering
doe I won't rlly have a use for it
v
tame topaz
I don't know what I wanna do with my life lol
subtle hawk
just go with the flow
tame topaz
Something computer-related, that's for sure
But who knows
My overactive right brain might just swerve me into something artistic instead
brave anchor
severe falcon
hentai video editing
subtle hawk
That's something
severe falcon
Omg so im using pygame, which is basically just a python wrapper for sdl, and the built in circle function doesnt have a single pixel center, it has the awful 4 pixel center and im getting cancer from it
severe falcon
But at least i got the bezier curve working
subtle hawk
@severe falcon
severe falcon
Thats pretty cool
subtle hawk
had to ssh to it right now since I don't have an access to the screen right now
and 2-10 is just this
severe falcon
The only problem i face now is making a generalized version of the algorithm, rip my brain
subtle hawk
rip
and yeah I still have a big repo of my computer camp codes
all in c/c++
welp time to go back to drawing
well then
severe falcon
Technically im going back to drawing aswell
subtle hawk
Sandy Bridge on the rise now in this game lol
mental coyote
"Sandy" Bridge, indeed.
severe falcon
Send photo of sandy bridge half buried in sand so we can use it for momopoly memes
subtle hawk
Currently searching
severe falcon
So i realized i have to basically have lists of lists of lists if i want my program to work on any degree of bezier curve
severe falcon
Ok so how do i tell python that its taking the wrong answer from its atan function
??? Im making my own paint program so i made that from just pure math
subtle hawk
void
don't see that distro every day
severe falcon
Welp if a point ever goes backwards on the x axis, the atan gives the opposite angle that it needs(i think if i actually calculated the line length with trig instead of the distance formula i never wouldve had a problem)
severe falcon
subtle hawk
past bison
had a q-code b6 on my mb after latest restart after the gpu output died... i suspect its my corsair dominators sticks dying...
past bison
rampage 4 black edition, bios 0603
severe falcon
I just played myself so hard, feel free to roast me but i did == when i meant = and spent the past 10 mins trying to figure out why nothing was changing