pvp

[opaque granite]

For the first day of PVP reset, how many battles do you guys do? 3/5?

[proper sorrel]

i take if people move

[karmic forum]

Usually do three matches if the bonuses are there

Any more than that is too much though

[ripe latch]

usually 5/5 , more ppl moved to top

[karmic forum]

I mainly do 3 because it sets you up perfectly for a big bonus while you're still at base 25 pts

[vague token]

2-3 is where you still catch rushers

i prefer 2 and hope that someone double pushes on 2nd reset

but 3 is ok too

[karmic forum]

Works best if you stay up for the start of the season reset

Otherwise you have to pray your RNG is good

[vague token]

you need to avoid 0 and 1

because you can get the afkers

who just dont pvp

randomly

unless you really believe in the rng

and catch someone who goes 10 matches

xD

[karmic forum]

Going by levels is a good general rule

At the start of the season at least

Anyone lower than level 70 is suspect

[shell heron]

anyone lower than 85 is pretty sus to me already

[karmic forum]

They tend to be alright at the very start

But I stop trusting them after a day or two

[shell heron]

I generally look at their fleets

food like putting their good fleets out

[naive dome]

oh wow aurora server is so competitive, I would be in top 10 with 2382 score in Sandy now

[shell heron]

the sandbaggers haven't showed themselves yet

[coral wren]

Patiently waiting

[somber axle]

👀

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

if I can't break 95 after tonight. I think Imma rush on last reset tomorrow

95 is the new bottom line for EoS top 10

rough season. can't get 95+ while vacation I guess

only at 89

[past egret]

You can do it

[ionic magnet]

should be a bit lower this season

ill be happy if i can get to 2.6k

need 6 more bonus

[shell heron]

not with work I cannot. I took a break from sandbagging work to real work.

"break"

[upper sparrow]

B-b-but, isnt ur real work is sandbagging cay wdym?

[shell heron]

sandbagging doesn't pay the akashi tax

[upper sparrow]

[quartz scaffold]

So close

[upper sparrow]

Where is phoenix

Is he dropping this season

[hot creek]

nop

[ripe latch]

oh shi , azuma with vh get 4k crits

[glad mulch]

between nagato amagi and warkai, which one is good to oath?

Just casual players who get free ring

[upper sparrow]

Oath for ur waifu

If u are a lölicon oath nagato then

[midnight heron]

yea such nice rng when fighting against amagi/fridrice/ws

dmg chart literally makes no sense

[upper sparrow]

[ripe latch]

nagato to proc sakura

[midnight heron]

fk dis game's rng bruh

[upper sparrow]

@crude mortar another one to ur memes compilation

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

7,5k fdg

[glad mulch]

i'm done with waifu, just want 10% bost stat

[midnight heron]

i blame izumo getting to 120 so i hav to stop using her 😡

[ripe latch]

izumo boy was || exploded ||

[midnight heron]

literally next battle vs namaryuu

and now on my alt i face some ass face getting 100% procs for 2 matches straight

fk off

[rocky shadow]

I see many player that used to sandbag now they rusher

[upper sparrow]

Too tired from sandbagging

They choose the healthy sleep way

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

cya next 2 season

[proper sorrel]

bruh pheonixf has 2 twin 457s

[midnight heron]

[hot creek]

time to test the full power of this comp.

[blazing scroll]

[upper sparrow]

16k fleet power

[empty grove]

I might go back to PR2 soon

Depends if I wanna commit to dev30 Drake or not

Gun will take me 6+ months again to get a 2nd copy of anyway

[frail orbit]

Holyshet phoenix u got 2 457 already

[crude mortar]

(phoenixf luck + haloist luck)/2=normal people luck

[ripe latch]

if u not have on nickname phoenix - u luck 0

[ripe latch]

what she can do

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

w8 next 5/10 to test with riche and amagi

[vague token]

she can shoot really often for no damage kek

i think if her ap barrage was the on shot barrage

or she had mgm+1

she'd be entirely fine for pvp

then just bring her to like 140-150 efficiency or reduce barrage base

give or take

[crude mortar]

she had preload!!!11

[elder crane]

preload with no MGM+1 s

[ripe latch]

test with 410 ap . but its really kek

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

or, i suppose it would be ok if she had a warspite targeting skill

cause she'd shoot 3 gun mounts or so by the time someone shoots their 3

[karmic forum]

She has pretty low hp as well

[vague token]

she's made of paper cause she'll get knocked down to 75% immediately

because of her damage absorb for flag skill

[karmic forum]

Also that

[vague token]

and like no hp

she can probably just die to warspite 457

[ripe latch]

haloist girl? cannot hit with double sg

[vague token]

[sour oasis]

Geez Fam. Were you making a defense team just for the sake of breaking the FP numbers??

[karmic forum]

What the fuck is everyone just getting +1s while pushing

Kamita, Hoo, and Famine are all at 2499

[ionic magnet]

rng so fun

[karmic forum]

I went +3 as well and two of those were while I was pushing

Anyways gl with final reset

[ionic magnet]

i got +1s on 1st 2nd and 4th match

yea gl gl

[karmic forum]

1st 3rd and 5th for me

I had to use a refresh for the last one so I'm down to 3 now

[ionic magnet]

i still got 5 but my first list rn is

dont recognize 2 of them and 1 is eos sandbagger

[karmic forum]

I might end up using an early refresh to get a better list

[sharp obsidian]

Does anyone know how the PvP BGM special song is chosen? Is it random?

I notice it pop out every now and then

[karmic forum]

Probably an opponent thats using the "Ankimo" aux

It changes the BGM

[elder crane]

one of a selection of Azki Hololive songs

[shy hazel]

didnt kizuna ai also had gear that chnge sound

forgot alrdy

no one uses kizuna gears anyways

[karmic forum]

It didn't

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

KizAI gear special effects were also all disabled at end of event

[ionic magnet]

kizuna had gold boiler

[elder crane]

One that made lead KizAI vanguard ship in PvE have the special diamond pattern movement on auto mode, and one that made all equips have random KizAI skins

[ionic magnet]

[elder crane]

gold boiler was the movement one, yeah

[karmic forum]

I use that one as well

[elder crane]

the skill might've been interesting, but didn't work in PvP and was disabled at end of event

[karmic forum]

Would have been very interesting

[alpine summit]

nice for another repairkit

[karmic forum]

Its pretty nice in PvE

No much reason to use it in PvP

[alpine summit]

intelligence chip was just a boiler

and you get to pump up that fleet score number

[elder crane]

the 550 HP aux is also just better than this whenever you'd want a second repair kit

[karmic forum]

Intelligence chip is just a gold boiler, but Ankimo is a gift given by the gods

[elder crane]

Anshan charm if its on DD, or the hololive badge in general

hololive badge having second use for buffing Aqua barrage if you're running Shibuki too in PvE

[alpine summit]

i have a hard time justifying leveling most the collab units

no fleet tech

[elder crane]

anyways
2 luck at best is 2% eHP, in practice generally 1-1.5%
DDs rarely break 3.3k HP, so 50 HP is at least 1.5% eHP

[karmic forum]

I levelled Hololives for my PvP meme fleet

[elder crane]

Aqua is the best burst dmg sub tbf

[alpine summit]

was that dorm tech for like 6 months

[karmic forum]

No that was blood sweat and tears

Except Aqua she was mostly dormed

[alpine summit]

i dont think ive ever ran into this fleet in pvp

[elder crane]

strongest sub barrage if you ignore homing effect on Uboats

...without the hololive boost that doubles it

[karmic forum]

I haven't put it up once this season

[alpine summit]

there is one guy with a full lvl 100 fleet

for hololive

but ive never seen this one

[karmic forum]

Yeah Aqua's boosted barrage is really good

[elder crane]

She's easily taking MVP vs SP Eugen

[karmic forum]

Its basically the same as a U-boat barrage in its base form

[elder crane]

fucking evaporates 1/3 of her HP with that barrage

it's stronger actually

about 50% better iirc on total damage

[alpine summit]

was it actually a good pattern, guess its time to look up barrage page

[elder crane]

add in homing though, and it's fairly comparable

it's... okay

[alpine summit]

no gif, guess not important enough

[elder crane]

you can consistently land ~1/3 of it on a stationary target, and is wide enough so that it hits things off-center too

or like

[alpine summit]

vs the kms subs

[elder crane]

there's actually a small gap in center, so a perfectly centered boss takes less dmg lol

it autocrits though

+50% almost for that

also 120% torp stat scaling

[alpine summit]

im honestly just dorming all my subs/ 1200 oil

cant be bothered to deal with sub range

[elder crane]

oh, huh, misremembered

it's nearly twice the dmg of KMS barrages, before you consider her skill

+30% dmg for that

[alpine summit]

aqua would have been better if there was a 2nd holo sub

or even better with a 3rd

[elder crane]

KMS subs get wolfpack buffs, but it's still basically twice the dmg, if her hitrate is above half, which is usually the case on a non-stationary target, well

Main issue is that there's just not another Hololive girl quite as strong

[karmic forum]

You just need to run one hololive and put another ship with a gamers mark

Probably either Fubuki or Sora

[elder crane]

Shibuki prolly overall next best, but she's still not really worth running just to get the upgraded Aqua barrage

[karmic forum]

Too bad we'll never see it in PvP

[alpine summit]

think most people just ignore subs in general

though im actively using them in events nowadays

7 oil or so for a barrage to help kill sirens

and getting them to 100 affection isnt horrible

[elder crane]

I'm doing the "fuck your stupid stat reqs and ACV" setup

1 fleet clear all with subs to kill boss

second fleet pads stats and ACV

[alpine summit]

events where you farm d1 are so much nicer than d3

you can get away with a lot more

[elder crane]

With Casa, Tosa, and now Perseus too, you can even buff the other fleet with the unused one

I've been doing it for, what
4 events now?

I think 5 actually, maybe

[alpine summit]

actually rolling 3 subs?

im just rolling 1 sub

[elder crane]

you need full three for last D map boss kills
well, at least for my lv ~110-115 ones

D1 this event I'm just using two, 1 just barely fails with my levels

the main thing is I'm running a cheapo 1:1 surface fleet

[karmic forum]

Welp, I'm out of refreshes and out of luck, back to farming the event

[elder crane]

This event is, what, 21 oil surface fleet?

[alpine summit]

im just hoping to get 3 torps, and hope that is enough

[elder crane]

last few were 22 oil

Yeah, farmed 1, and 2/15 on second

[karmic forum]

3 should be enough for PvP purposes

[elder crane]

hopefully no trolling

[karmic forum]

Although the most popular comp seems to use 2

Trump switched to torpmemes btw

[elder crane]

yeeeep

I actually had a bit of trouble w it

[karmic forum]

Although its w/ ibuki

Interesting tech I thought most people disregarded ibuki

[elder crane]

one time it exploded my vanguard (I also exploded his, but Nagato barrage finished mine off and my comp needs vanguard alive for a bit to out-trade Namaryuu)
one time it exploded my Hiryuu early (stupid off-meta comp needing Hiryuu unproc'd)
and the last time Richi+JB instadeleted vanguard and rolled him over

[karmic forum]

I started using Noshiro over ykkz in my namagi fdg

Its been going fairly well against the regular comps but I'd like to go against torpmemes

[alpine summit]

i always thought ykkz was the face of pvp

[karmic forum]

Since I did the bulge tech on azuma

[alpine summit]

sad to see her be phased

[karmic forum]

Juneau is the face of PvP imo

[elder crane]

Surprisingly, the counter to ykkz is torpmemes

mostly since her evarate vs Nagato-boosted vanguard units is shit

[karmic forum]

Or I guess Juneau was the face of PvP now it might be Nagato

[elder crane]

she barely hits 40% evarate, and even with her skill, that's basically 50/50 to get nuked by every torp she eats

Juneau is the face of PvP, yeah

been there since day 1

[karmic forum]

Juneau is definitely the ship with the biggest power disparity between PvE and PvP

[alpine summit]

juneau is just necessary due to pvp mechanics, she provides so much value

[elder crane]

Hiryuu also arguably has been there for a while now, but was very niche before her retrofit

[alpine summit]

but i dont think anyone actually liked juneau

[elder crane]

and she's much better in PvE than Juneau is

[alpine summit]

everyone complains about ykkz i feel

[karmic forum]

I don't really like Juneau but I like PvP enough to oath her

Ykkz enabled most stall comps

[elder crane]

Jun is fine
She's also not that bad in PvE as a mob fleet health pack, one A rank on mobs doesn't really matter

[karmic forum]

People get annoyed when ykkz survives over a minute and 30 seconds

[elder crane]

rookie numbers

[karmic forum]

I don't like stall in general

[elder crane]

where's that old pic, one sec

[karmic forum]

PvP was more exciting when you can consistently wait until 5 mins and push all 5 matches

Akaga meta best meta

[elder crane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/583339152959995959/Screenshot_2019-05-23-12-54-19-738_com.YoStarEN.AzurLane.png

[karmic forum]

[elder crane]

cursed

[karmic forum]

Also theres the ykkz vs. hiryuu 1v1

[elder crane]

2:26 on timer

and it finally ended

[karmic forum]

I don't think I've ever had the timer that low

[elder crane]

took longer than even the longest Enty v Enty duel I've had

[karmic forum]

Or maybe I did back in the Owarida mirror days

I sorta blocked that era from my mind though

[elder crane]

nah, with time accel, Owarida duels at most lasted ~ 2 mins

[alpine summit]

owarida duels still happen at lower ranks

[karmic forum]

Erika probably has a few enty duels each season I'm betting

[elder crane]

2 mins on Owarida duels is something like 8 launches

so

I had that once

I won that btl since literally the only failed lucky E proc was his first one

[karmic forum]

So despite thinking that torpmemes will fail, I kinda want it to be the new meta

[elder crane]

so fighter chip dmg eventually killed him first

[karmic forum]

Because it makes things faster and faster is good

[elder crane]

15/16 OWARIDA

0.68% for 14 OWARIDA procs in a role (discounting first two since first two activations can fail and still have both Enty live)

not... actually that low

[alpine summit]

thats the rate for a rate up in fgo

ezpz right

[elder crane]

well, to be exact on the picture above
ended more like 2:22, since magtorps are slooow

those mags are what killed his ykkz

[alpine summit]

i dont think ive seen a ykkz v ykkz fight in a long time

[elder crane]

Azuma basically

[karmic forum]

Azuma deletes things pretty nicely

[hot creek]

people using torp meme VG but not using Hiryuu

[elder crane]

those are just

[ripe latch]

hiryuu for 200iq boys

2541 without sandbang , max on server 2572

[karmic forum]

So far at least

Wait till Phoenix finishes

[ripe latch]

he has 3h

[hot creek]

Im on Sandy tho.

#Never2600

[ripe latch]

on next season , believe

[alpine summit]

need left guy to move 1 more

[karmic forum]

They're a sandbagger so they'll probably move eventually

Or they dropped games this season and thats their max, hard to tell

[alpine summit]

i rather do it soon and sleep

looking at 2566 at min, and was hoping for 2570 after missing 6

[pseudo iris]

So what's this new torp meme running around now. I just had my yukikaze deleted twice in a row by a Noshiro, Jintsuu, yuki combo.

[upper sparrow]

Noshiro jintsuu combo is classic tho nothing new

[karmic forum]

They're running the new black torp aux from D1

[upper sparrow]

Probably

[karmic forum]

Basically makes their opening torps hit really hard because they equip 610s

[upper sparrow]

Or u get the bad rng probably

[karmic forum]

Torp memes can already force resets if you're unlucky but with the aux they're much stronger

[upper sparrow]

Just get lucky 4head

[pseudo iris]

Twice in a row though? First time i've had to reset like that in a few weeks. It was lul worthy though, not even mad

[upper sparrow]

Just rng being rng

[karmic forum]

If you're using the standard Azuma/Jun/Ykkz consider switching to Azuma/Jun/Noshiro and equip torp bulges on your vangaurd

[upper sparrow]

Put bulge on juneau

[pseudo iris]

Exactly what I had lol I'm guessing those new black auxiliaries go on Noshiro and Jintsu?

[karmic forum]

Yup

[upper sparrow]

Or here from what cn ppl said

Still need proper testing on en though

[pseudo iris]

My skunk not high level enough for that yet unfortunately. Might have to play around with this new comp, kind of left me shocked. Fun to see though lol 😆

Thanks guys. 👍

[empty grove]

I need a second HPFCR

[karmic forum]

I need a second 457

[empty grove]

Yeah hf

[upper sparrow]

everyone need it

[karmic forum]

I can probably get one by PR4 if I mega rush PR3

Or if I decide to skip drake

[lament lichen]

Almost done for my hpfcr

[empty grove]

I have more CA UR gun than HPFCR BP

[lament lichen]

I dont even have a 457

[empty grove]

Probably not a good idea to use a meme comp during EOS but

[karmic forum]

On offense?

[empty grove]

I could keep the generic vanguard geared

Minus the STAAG

[karmic forum]

Trying out torpmemes?

[empty grove]

Yep

That is Jintsuu lead right

[karmic forum]

Should do fairly well against people without noshiro+bulge

Apparently

I used Noshiro lead but maybe jintsuu has higher burst

[empty grove]

Time to drop a match

[proper sorrel]

i should've bought naga's skin

[empty grove]

That 10k torp crit

Actually disgusting

[karmic forum]

I've never felt so punished for skipping an event ship

Fucking naganami

[lament lichen]

It pretty good for people without azuma

I just need to lvl naganami already maxed her skills when i got her

[vague token]

just gotta counter with own noshiro xD

[karmic forum]

I've been running anti-torp vang for a while now

[lament lichen]

Just kill the backline first 4head

[vague token]

kek

[karmic forum]

Damn I'm already feeling sleepy

Tempted to just rush the rest of my matches and sleep

[ionic magnet]

https://streamable.com/xx923f

lose VG win fight

that thing instakilled my amagi in 1 match tho

went 7-3 total

its officially cancer in my book

[karmic forum]

That still could have been a loss

If your ws missed her shots

Did you use the anti-torp setup?

[ionic magnet]

actually got no bulge jun

[alpine summit]

skunk was too cute to skip

[ionic magnet]

im confident my warkai wont miss 4 shots but yea could still lose

[karmic forum]

I didn't skip her per se, I just rolled about 100 times and decided to cut my losses

In my game against torpmemes, I was one amagi barrage proc away from losing. But I wasn't using the anti-torp vangaurd

I'd probably run azuma tank though, juneau dying early is kinda bad.

[ripe latch]

2159hp naganami
why using this

[ionic magnet]

im still debating on gearing vs torpmemes when theyre just easy resets anyways

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

maybe if i see more of them

[karmic forum]

I didn't have to warp my vanguard eqs that much

I just run Azuma/Jun/Noshiro instead of Ykkz now

[ionic magnet]

for general use, noshiro buff alone is enough

[karmic forum]

And have a bulge on azuma instead of gyro

[ionic magnet]

imo

[alpine summit]

this feels like a problem i can put off till next season

[karmic forum]

Next season should be interesting

I can see a lot of people switching to torps

[alpine summit]

next season we will get the first person to be torp meme'd to lose a fight

[shell heron]

now I want her skin.

can't meme people without full flex with skin and oath

[red crane]

who should i use my free ring on?
i already have my warkai oathed
which one of my other pvp ships should i use it on? (nagato, hiryuu kai, amagi, juneau, nanoda, nosh)

[quartz scaffold]

Oathing doesn't give a big improvement on the performance of a ship. Oath whoever you like

[red crane]

ig i'll oath nanoda for the skin then

[sour oasis]

Oath bullin and purin

I'm curious where I stand on EoS considering I missed day 1 entirely.

[ripe latch]

never oath

[karmic forum]

Check the leaderboards after the season is over

I'm pretty sure you're still going to be in the top 100

[mint hornet]

could probably check it now and get a reasonable estimate.
doubt there's many eos players outside this channel tbh

[karmic forum]

Cut off is probably going to be low 40s this season

[midnight heron]

30min to reset and no one wants to eat free food

[karmic forum]

Is that sandy?

Oh wow it is sandy

[shell heron]

I might be able to hit EoS top 10

[karmic forum]

Thats a really sad leaderboard

I'm surprised that Phoenix hit 2590 at all

[shell heron]

95 is possible if I don't hit a -1

[empty grove]

I got fucked on RNG

[karmic forum]

Cutoff for top ten is probably gonna be lower

[empty grove]

So first aint happening

The split of this season purely came down to last round RNG

[karmic forum]

Well you still might take first

The other leaders didn't get many bonuses either

[empty grove]

They're still 1 on me tho

[karmic forum]

Meanwhile I'm going to test how many minuses I'm gonna eat with 0 refreshes

[empty grove]

I had to waste a refresh on the set before too

Cause I get 4 people under me at rank 47

Felt good

[karmic forum]

I got the same but I refreshed into r2 for a +1

So its not the worst thing in the world

[empty grove]

I got like rank 20

The set was shit too, my only bonus was pushing into rank 3

[karmic forum]

I've had some pretty good luck this EoS period

Considering I was 7 down on you guys prior to gensui

[ripe latch]

2586 washi

what server more

[karmic forum]

But last reset will probably ruin me

[lament lichen]

Im going for a no reset season

[karmic forum]

Sounds like hell

[lament lichen]

Idk

I havent even pressed the refrest button yet

[karmic forum]

The entire season?

[lament lichen]

Yeah

[karmic forum]

Thats impressive

Oh someone is moving

Just move 1 more pls

[shell heron]

I think this is a +1, prob should have did maths a little better

[karmic forum]

Hes not moving

[shell heron]

or not just go " it looks about right"

[karmic forum]

I wonder when I should push

Probably now

[shell heron]

how many do you have left

[karmic forum]

8

[shell heron]

I like 2 minutes for each match left

[karmic forum]

Sad

The guy was 2 pts away from a bonus

Alright time to pray I don't eat too many -1s

[shell heron]

decent bonuses this reset. +4 so far with another +1 next

[empty grove]

Fuck it

I'm just pushing

Shit RNG

[karmic forum]

I tried to fish for an early bonus too hard

But I was trying to go for r1 and though that I needed to snowball

[shell heron]

and that's a fast reset at 4/10

[karmic forum]

First potential -1 averted

[shell heron]

with 3/4 of them being sandbaggers

[karmic forum]

Safe on second

[shell heron]

oh I see gafa is running new torp meme

would be a shame if that is what stalls me

[karmic forum]

I should have switched to my hiryuu/fdg/amagi fleet for the lolz

Oh wow I got r1

[shell heron]

no

get that garbage out of my face

[karmic forum]

Only ate one -1

Turns out I didn't need those refreshes anyways

Downside is I got no +1s

Switching to anti-torp loadout was the right call though

[empty grove]

[karmic forum]

Ran into 3 torp comps

[shell heron]

eldie comp noooo

stop it

stop proccing this instance

[karmic forum]

I'm waiting Cay

[empty grove]

Annihilating full geared meta comps in 30 seconds is fun

[cerulean estuary]

eldie comp? who is it cay

[shell heron]

dunno, someone pretty up there

[karmic forum]

Hoo won

[shell heron]

I'll take 3rd

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

for now

[empty grove]

Shit season

[cerulean estuary]

eldie bait didnt proc grrrr

[ionic magnet]

thats some last day magic right there

[empty grove]

Don't @ me

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

oh, that was you

THAT WAS YOU

[empty grove]

What was me

Ohh no

[karmic forum]

It was me yes

[empty grove]

Wait who has the eldridge comp

[shell heron]

Sumire

[empty grove]

Ohh

[karmic forum]

Oh

[empty grove]

I deleted his vanguard in 3 seconds so didn't see

[lament lichen]

... my phone crashed

[empty grove]

Rip

[shell heron]

time for pics

ranks should be locked in

[empty grove]

Will vysaga make it to 96 tho

[lament lichen]

nope

[lament lichen]

should be 96 if i didnt crash

[ionic magnet]

rip vy

[cerulean estuary]

once dev30 pr3ships are available

are we seeing another change in meta? or still torpmeme

[shell heron]

now do we want top 10 or top 20 EoS?

[empty grove]

Honestly

[empty grove]

From using this torp meme, you can basically counter it just by swapping ykkz to Noshi

[karmic forum]

Rip @lament lichen

I needed a +6 this reset to be competitive

So yeah that wasn't going to happen

[empty grove]

That happened me before, so I started having two devices open

[lament lichen]

it might be cuz of the heatwave

[shell heron]

I always have both my tablet and phone ready to go.

[mint hornet]

Vy missed out on 2500 more merits that he already has more than enough of

[shell heron]

if one should ever decide to crap out on me

[karmic forum]

Did anyone else miss top 10?

[mint hornet]

i got in at 6 right before hoo and the others kicked me out

[karmic forum]

I'll update the full leaderboards sometime later

Too tired to do it tonight

[shell heron]

Hoo stop being lv 110. join us at lvl 120+

[lament lichen]

im only 112 lol

[ionic magnet]

lol

[karmic forum]

Also gz on another r1 @ionic magnet

[ionic magnet]

thanks thats seriously so lucky tbh

[shell heron]

He would like to thank the voodoo magic that finally hit Famine

[karmic forum]

This season was pretty shit with the exception of saturday w2

Tbf you were in the lead prior to gensui

So your bad luck and good luck evened out

[ionic magnet]

ever since i complained about having shit gensui yea

eating +9 is the trick obviously

[karmic forum]

@sour oasis you're in the top 50

[shell heron]

welcome to the "screwed by gensui when having a lead" club

you'll get use to it here

[karmic forum]

Leads are overrated

[empty grove]

Legit

I've said it multiple times but all that matters is the gensui luck

[karmic forum]

Its much more fun getting +5 in a single reset

As a side note, I felt pretty safe playing into those 3 torp comps

Might be RNG but at no point was I in danger of losing and the matches didn't go for that long

[shell heron]

not much of a bigger threat than the usual torp meme

[ionic magnet]

not looking forward to next seasons gensui

[karmic forum]

Why not you seem to be on a roll with gensui luck

[vague token]

kek

[shell heron]

[karmic forum]

Just don't get distracted by datamines

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

Or sleep

[karmic forum]

Sleep and PvP are like water and oil

[empty grove]

But yeah in terms of that torp meme comp, mid juneau & lead Noshi cuts it's effectiveness by a lot

[lament lichen]

time for me to take another long break from sandbagging

[ionic magnet]

i wanna test more earlier but no time

[empty grove]

As long as juneau doesn't get insta nuked, she heals all the dmg the torps would do to backline

[ionic magnet]

now its impossible to find them

[karmic forum]

Oh right I need to switch to my meme fleet

[empty grove]

If you wanna test against the meme & get me

I'll put it back on

[ionic magnet]

you'd be surprised how many newbies can get walled by 2 max levels

[empty grove]

I know

It's still funny tho

[ionic magnet]

speaking from experience

[empty grove]

The early days

When people would have like a +30 levelled Enty

& solo wipe

[karmic forum]

My full fleet of level 40s getting rekt by lvl 80 laffey

[empty grove]

I remember using foxes+ lusty really early days

Cause I didn't have enty or hood

[karmic forum]

As much as enty is a meme now

She really is a big powerspike for new players

[shell heron]

I wonder how bad will an eldie comp wall newbies

lets run the classic eldie comp again

[karmic forum]

Newbies will get walled by any 120 fleet

[empty grove]

It's ok

Newbies will sleep on matches anyway

[karmic forum]

Also my list isn't moving

[shell heron]

they'll see non meta on my fleet and think it's easy

[karmic forum]

nvm it is

[shell heron]

only to have a match fo 2 minutes +

[ionic magnet]

evil strats

[karmic forum]

I ended up just doing 2 matches because bonuses were low

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Its too easy to torment newbies

Its more fun to mess with sandbaggers

[lament lichen]

i wanna see how much i can push howe in pvp

[mint hornet]

does speed have a soft/hard cap?
might just make my defense a solo yukikaze with a bunch of boilers

[ionic magnet]

her skill timing is a pain to work around

im just slowly levelling my howe

not sure about speed caps

[karmic forum]

The max speed w/ ykkz is just two boilers though

[ionic magnet]

but at some point, more boilers will just make you eat more torps

[shell heron]

I wonder if using a slower gun on the other BBs is better if Howe is in the fleet

[mint hornet]

[shell heron]

Fast gun just wastes it

[karmic forum]

If you want to truly do speedmemes then use charles/le tri/le malin w/ boilers on all and beaver on backline

[shell heron]

[ripe latch]

[empty grove]

[quartz scaffold]

[ripe latch]

+25

[quartz scaffold]

Took a couple tries

[hot creek]

[coral wren]

Should I just rush the day 1 matches?

[hot creek]

Sure why not? Sleep is good

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

fothermucker

is this loss?

[midnight heron]

[crude mortar]

im haunted by haloist curse

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[naive dome]

you should have immediately reset your list when their average level is 40

i reset mine, got a bunch of 90s players, got a +34 15mins after

[elder crane]

Imo actually a sweet spot in the middle
110+ becomes increasingly likely that they stopped even playing PvP much or they sandbag
90s probably the best lvs on list to have

[ripe latch]

rng if u on last season get top10-50 and not get bonus on next season

[upper sparrow]

Lvl80-90s is the best target for find rusher imo

[naive dome]

yeah but only for week 1 and early week 2, they usually get stumped by meta fleet in late week 2

[upper sparrow]

Usually commander lvl80-ish already got t0 ship like amagi, noshiro and nagato

So im doubt about them got stomped early

Just not dev30 azuma & fdg

[elder crane]

Late week 2 they're stumped by not sandbagging

Not meta fleets

By late week 2 nonsandbaggers are like 70, 80 pts down from sandbaggers

Literally impossible to get bonuses off them anymore

That's why the two days before earliest gensui rush is so dead

Nonsandbaggers are too low to get bonuses off of
Gensui rushers haven't started yet

[naive dome]

true

[alpine summit]

oh my, still made top 30 after missing 6 matches and doing good sleep memes

or so i guess, since i cant see last season

these dont look like newbies tho

Guess we should put up a food fleet

[ripe latch]

carry nya~

[alpine summit]

had to buy some equipment slots to unequip all those girls t.t

[ripe latch]

pf put enty vestal and akashi

[alpine summit]

my vestal only 116

want my rivals to at least get full exp

[ripe latch]

[alpine summit]

who would actually be easiest to beat

[quartz scaffold]

How does the pointing system work? I didn't get any above +30

[elder crane]

more they are above you = more bonus you get

your opponents need to have much higher score to get higher than +30s

[upper cove]

so who in this comp gets the pearl https://puu.sh/GiRoY/980edd3711.png

[ripe latch]

noshi

[elder crane]

Noshiro

yep

[upper cove]

I was thinking so just wanted to make sure

[elder crane]

No Hiryuu, so I won't rec the black oxy on her

[alpine summit]

shouldnt amagi be center there at least

[elder crane]

is fine that way too

[upper cove]

so wait would noshi do boiler/pearl or rudder/pearl

[elder crane]

either boiler or *torpbulge

[upper cove]

also I just rearrange the backline as needed anyways

[elder crane]

flagship usually you don't care about them being alive, so warkai flag snipes top then bottom just fine

[alpine summit]

i figure youd want to protecc your sick fox with the lower hp

[elder crane]

just run her tank aux and it's fine

not like she'll do that much dmg without Nagato around

warkai and FdG carry damage in the team anyways

[quartz scaffold]

I usually log in at the time of reset. So when I enter at the start of the season I started with rank 5-10. Does that matter? Should I refresh or something

[upper cove]

she does ok damage but she's not the damage carry anyways considering who's right next to her

[elder crane]

no, your numerical rank doesn't matter at all for bonuses

it only cares about score

[quartz scaffold]

Can we know the points we'll get by the rank difference?

[upper cove]

if you know the exact score of your enemy you can probably say for sure

[sour oasis]

We can make an educated guess based on the top 100 otherwise

[upper cove]

but if they're not in the top 100 and you don't know their score I don't think there's a way to say for sure

[quartz scaffold]

[sour oasis]

Also thanks to Roomier for telling me my final position. I am a bit surprised.

[cinder crater]

Anyone know who this is

[sour oasis]

"Snow bunny"? "Brave bunny"? (Technically she's a dog)

[upper cove]

a cool guy

didn't buy amagi skin nvm not cool anymore

[cinder crater]

I think he had 2 457s

[upper cove]

I don't even have one

[quartz scaffold]

Just 1. Two would be 16.2k like phoenix

[ripe latch]

cool guy , noshi not on left

[cinder crater]

He must've been using twin 380s then for whatever reason

[ripe latch]

reason - become 🥩

[upper cove]

waiting for people to move in pvp so I can get more points is more obnoxious than I thought

[ripe latch]

+28

[vague token]

welcome to the wonderful world of sandbagging

[karmic forum]

There very little difference between top 100 and ranks down to ~700 at this point

Everyone of those players probably used 5 and got varying degrees of bonuses

[crude mortar]

DAMN IT HALOSIT

[ripe latch]

[past egret]

@ripe latch refresh?

[ripe latch]

eat , refresh seems now degen

[past egret]

There’s nothing to eat here

[fast osprey]

when attacking...PVP using warspite +howe+monarch is good? for PVP?

[crude mortar]

it doesn't matter what ship you use

if you beating enemy

its good

those 3 supposed to beat enemy

so its good

[shell heron]

if the question is if it's on the same level as Namaspite, dunno

[fast osprey]

as if no ez enemy to beat

[crude mortar]

gotta ask thoese people that play jp cuz now en people didn't reach 120 yet

[shell heron]

depends on how much of an accuracy increased 20% is

[fast osprey]

will be hard to beat

if refresh chance is gone

[storm jewel]

should i swap the hood gun on Amagi for the new PR3 gun which is similar to hood gun ?

the new gun has higher spread and it concerns me

[shell heron]

Why? If you hood gun still outspeeds it. You're just hoping all 3 shells to hit in order to outdamage hood gun

[storm jewel]

yeah outspeed by tiny amount

[elder crane]

You lose quite a bit of fire dmg too

@fast osprey
Seems good, but I'd rather take Amagi or FdG instead of Monarch, both are more better than Monarch in general than the 12% FP Howe gets

[vague token]

howe is just a support, no reason to bother with the 12% for her

when you could just take a really strong ship as a 3rd

[topaz blade]

is namaspite still good if i dont have the rainbow bb gun?

running centaur/formi/warspite atm, thinking about switching it up

[shell heron]

I still run it.

using triple 410 atm, but it's been said that litt gun is a bit better

considering switching to the monarch gun for a bit

[topaz blade]

ive always used the purple 406

it synced well enough with formidable root, and she usually hits vanguard with 3rd salvo

[shell heron]

too slow, without a HSFCR it runs right into rudder proccs

then again so does triple 410

[topaz blade]

do people run rudders on backline?

[shell heron]

of course we do. any evasion on mainfleet is good

[ionic magnet]

if youre using wfc, triple 381 is better than 406

hits enemy vanguard on 2nd salvo aswell

[topaz blade]

triple 381, as in monarch gun or littorio?

[ionic magnet]

monarch gun

and i remember you not moving last season when i had you in my list

[karmic forum]

Caveat with running triple 381 is that you have to also run HPFCR or else you'll hit rudder timing

[ionic magnet]

it does

but its whatever imo

just 30% chance

[upper cove]

30% chance to reset

[ionic magnet]

nah its just the first salvo anyways

[karmic forum]

HPFCR on wskai is pretty good anyways

[ionic magnet]

gib hfcr

[upper cove]

good hit, FP, and gets you off rudder timing

same

gib

[karmic forum]

Why don't you guys have hpfcr

Joined after fw?

[vague token]

just go do pr3

[topaz blade]

yeah lol

[vague token]

forehead

[upper cove]

why else

that's such a low bar now

[ionic magnet]

yea i joined around neptunia collab

[karmic forum]

For some reason I thought Hoo was a day 1 player

[topaz blade]

i joined almost exactly a year ago, right before formidable

[upper cove]

"did you start any time after launch day" is nearly an equivalent question to "did you miss fw"

[karmic forum]

I think I started right before VDiR

Its not that bad now though, just keep on doing those G, Q, and D researches and you'll eventually get one

[upper cove]

I started right as the OG CE run started

[ionic magnet]

playing catch up with collection% is not fun

[upper cove]

there is no catchup

looks at kimberly and mullany

[karmic forum]

You'll eventually lose out on 100% unless you whale at some point

[upper cove]

whaling is fun

[ionic magnet]

is it?

[karmic forum]

The good thing about PvP is that you don't need to whale at all, just get 6 out of the 12 or so meta ships and you're good

Oaths are optional because offense buff

[upper cove]

but ya I'm missing out on a bunch of retros myself, and I don't really care cause the devs decided mullany and kimberly didn't needed to be added to perm

so I couldn't get 100% anyways

just being slow rn

[karmic forum]

Oh Edwarzo dropped matches last season I was wondering where he was

[ionic magnet]

these last two dildo BPs just wont drop

wonder whats the average pts for 1 drop

[upper cove]

according to one of my friends

10k

[ionic magnet]

1 BP or 1 full dildo?

[upper cove]

he was legit at like 35k points 3 prints tho

[ionic magnet]

wat

maybe he spammed other maps

[upper cove]

no lol

he only cleared through D3 to get to ex

[ionic magnet]

[upper cove]

otherwise D1 the whole time

[ionic magnet]

well considering i havent gotten any drops

for about 8k pts now

[upper cove]

granted I think everyone else I know has been getting good drops somehow

[ionic magnet]

thats still cursed rng

im at 37k 13/15

[upper cove]

better than my algerie gun drops

I got 50k points that event and didn't get an extra gun

[ionic magnet]

i skipped that one

cant get cursed if i dont farm

[upper cove]

🧠

[karmic forum]

I uploaded last season

cutoff for top 100 was 2539

Which was 6 lower than last season

The loading screen bug definitely had some effect

[vague token]

also event with big farm

bad for rusher business

[karmic forum]

Events haven't stopped sandbaggers it seems

A lot of other people might have been distracted

The season demonstrated that you can mess around during most of the season and still contend for r1

[vague token]

oh, it doesnt stop bagging, it just hurts the rusher desire to push

potential points go down whenever there's an important farm

xD

[upper sparrow]

Woah i see krazy in AL esport channel

[upper cove]

tbh I'm here for AotN and then I'm going back to using pvp for exp

[ionic magnet]

good guy roomier

thanks for the hard work

[karmic forum]

Which server are you on Krazy?

[upper cove]

washington

[karmic forum]

Not many sandbaggers in Washington so you'll have a fairly easy time

Just don't miss matches and AotN should be easy

[shell heron]

I might take an actual vacation this season

only 2 bonuses this reset

[storm jewel]

how long before the last reset of the day you should go ham on pvp to maximize the point ?

[karmic forum]

What do you mean by going ham?

[storm jewel]

i just used my 10 swords, hitting all the left guys and like ~20 points off the 1st rank

i mean going all in 10 swords pre reset

[karmic forum]

If you want to maximize points you never use 10 runs

[storm jewel]

ohhhh

[karmic forum]

Just do 5 each reset until the very last reset of the season

[storm jewel]

ohhhh

[hot creek]

swords? what is this, feh?

[storm jewel]

i will take note of that

[karmic forum]

Hitting left is good, but waiting until someone on your list moves high up is better

[storm jewel]

so what is the attack pattern

[karmic forum]

Just do that for a few days and hitting r1 should be pretty easy

You just wait and check your list periodically

[storm jewel]

get 5 swords in the morning, then wait till near the next reset in afternoon then spend 5, then...

[karmic forum]

First you get to 10/10 then use 5 each reset

You don't have to use them all at once

It's better to use one whenever someone on your list moves

[storm jewel]

ohhhhhh

[karmic forum]

And then wait until another person moves after that

[storm jewel]

10/10 then use 5 each reset

[karmic forum]

Yeah so you'll go down to 5/10 by the end of each reset

[storm jewel]

shiet do i still have chance

i just used all 10

[karmic forum]

And then next reset will give you 5 more so you're back at 10/10

Its fine you can just not use any next reset

[storm jewel]

gotcha

[karmic forum]

In two resets you'll be back to 10/10

[storm jewel]

no wonder why my old guidies made timer for every reset

[hot creek]

you can still catchup, early season doesnt matter much. Ive lost a match day 1 before and still manage to r1 eos.

[storm jewel]

[karmic forum]

But Phoenix you're on sandy where you're basically the king of sandbaggers

[hot creek]

Yeah that wouldnt happen on Avrora but you could probably still make top 10 eos with a day 1 lost match.

[storm jewel]

im on sandy too

[karmic forum]

Cursed list

[somber axle]

RIP

[karmic forum]

Two sandbaggers and a level 60

Putting all my hopes on Shia I guess

[hot creek]

Always good to have at least one camper on list

[karmic forum]

It's not because I'm sleeping

[alpine summit]

last season i started with 153

[karmic forum]

Actually wait I'll just go to 4/10

[alpine summit]

pretty awful start this time lol

[narrow meadow]

142

last time started 151

disappointing but what are ya gonna do

[alpine summit]

there is always the option to be a rusher

[narrow meadow]

well i got grouped up with some usual suspects from avrora top 100

[alpine summit]

[narrow meadow]

so cant be too bad

[storm jewel]

how you know if someone is a sandbagger?

[lament lichen]

You would know if they push eeally late and never show up at the top till a week later

[narrow meadow]

i've got 2, should i refresh?

[storm jewel]

oh goddamn u guys refresh to look for a good fish

[sweet venture]

How am i both 5th and 4th

[narrow meadow]

you were 4th when you last finished an exercise

you were 5th when you opened the leaderboard

[sweet venture]

damn feelsbad

[alpine summit]

I got sky on my fresh list, instantly refreshed

Especially on sleep reset

You only get 4 guys, and if you know 1 of them isn't moving

You should just take a chance with the refresh for an increase in odds

... Unless you want to do some fleet testing first

[sweet venture]

love limit testing against fleets im 100% sure i lose to

[alpine summit]

With torp memes being a thing

You might be able to rng them out

[sweet venture]

only worked like twice lol

almost always lucky e procs for clutch win

[alpine summit]

Something like ibuki, ykkz, and idk tanikaze if you have no event botes

[lament lichen]

Ayaya

[alpine summit]

Oh jintsuu of course

[sweet venture]

torp comps are so boring imo

[upper sparrow]

Still better than namaryuu

Boringness-wise

[sweet venture]

everytime i see a torp comp with ijn backline i just feel bored

[lament lichen]

Ykk vs ykk is more boring tbf

[alpine summit]

Wait how did south dakota's skill work again

Didn't it prevent death

[vague token]

no, washington's skill prevents her from dying

for 5s

[alpine summit]

Awww was hoping for sodak VS sodak memes

[sweet venture]

hiryuu vs hiryuu xd

[shy hazel]

u are 2 years late

for sodak memes

sodak not sodank anymore

[sweet venture]

mfw ive been playing this game for 2 years

[shy hazel]

not u wat

the ones finding sodak memery

2017 era.tm

[alpine finch]

wasde

long enty standoffs

[vague token]

dont miss that xD

[alpine finch]

It was the majority of when I played

Could last 2-3mins per exercise

[elder crane]

Okay, so here's SoDak's protection from Wash

1. SoDak needs to go below 20% HP when Wash is still alive

• if she gets 1-shot from above 20% HP, RIP
• if Wash dies first, RIP

2. after that, SoDak gains protection similar to Hiryuu but for only 5 s immortality

torp comps especially occasionally could nuke SoDak for well over 20% of her HP, which was pepega af

[alpine summit]

i honestly dont recall the last time i used my sodak

just recalled that she COULD live thru death

[upper sparrow]

Wait sodak need washington to still alive for activating her hiryuu-like skill?

When i encounter sodak def from long time ago i think sodak still can stall even when washi dead already

Maybe my memory was wrong idk kek

[sour oasis]

Was the bonus-point calculation spreadsheet unpinned?

[vague token]

wash will trigger her skill as soon as sodak goes under 20% and doesnt die

AT THIS POINT wash can die and it'll still invuln

[sour oasis]

I just picked up an extra 12 points as a Petty Officer (minimum 22) fighting someone 207 points above me.

(I miss having a guide for lower level gains and limits)

[shy hazel]

that is wash wasdamagi happened

to snipe sd

[shell heron]

was it ever pinned?

The project itself wasn't abandoned, but data gathered is very slow

[elder crane]

Erm, that's not what WaSDA does

That team ain't sniping anyone

[shell heron]

It should be safe to draw a conclusion based on the patterns seen at different ranks

[elder crane]

It's basically a brick team

WaSDHood was the setup that could sorta focus down a ship