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monarch isn't overrated anymore 
why am i still using warhk

nvm warhk is op as fuck 


I see Chibi Goku at 300. Do I wait until they hit top 10?
Chibi doesn't rush before gensui so wait at your own risk
oddly there's one person that rushed already
prob ate at least 3 negative bonuses getting r1
@sterile bluff all the Izumo guys I see in pvp have her at FS5 lol
Just replace jb and u are good
Jb is efficient againt non-meta vg tho ngl
Like when u encounter 120vg lvl with ๐ speed
U can burst them with JB, the damage is satisfying af

u can crush any non-meta stuff in pvp...
officer zack gonna arrest you for meming in pvp
dont meme in pvp thats very haram
dont spread full french cancer meme "meta" fleet here

and theres no such thing as "full kms meta pvp fleet"
Idk but im sure someone will use them in pvp
but that fleet will get rekt faster than 10 seconds
10s of each random person in the planet



Best yukikaze loadout?
will be running her with juneau and belfast frontline, nagato richy hiryuu backline
usually fire extinguisher/boiler, but you can adjust as needed
Twin 100 rainbowmag any AA gun fe boiler
usually fire extinguisher/boiler, but you can adjust as needed
wait, are you saying toolbox isnt needed?
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Dont have rainbow mag sadly, quad mag best then?
yes
Mag torps on all of the front? yes/no?
Isnt quad mag for manual?
gold x5 mag had shitty reload time idk
quad mag good
Quad 610 or quad 533?
Ok so idk if I have any idea how to gear tbh now that i think about it. some help with the rest too maybe? :) start with juneau and belfast?
Ahh ok
Pearl tear on juneau or somewhere else or not at all?
Yes pearl tear on juneau
would it be pearltear+washing machine then?
Pearl tearl + anti buldge
ah ofc
some old wiseman here once said pearl on jun gonna overheal
You know torp fleet can one shot juneau
Thats what i learnt when i pvpd way before
I used to run tear on other unit
cuz it overheals usually
You can put pearl on Yuki
So then tear on belfast? 
depends on the fight
Usually Yuki is the last vg alive
ofc but id like to not switch around if possible, I will if I have to but for general fights u know :p
if your jun dies too fast but still heals from maybe a predemptive strike or a crit you can equip the pearl to heal some more in latematch
Well I just came back after over 1 year break a month ago, so rip any pr ships atm :D
I used to do top ranking pvp, have a rank 2 and a rank 7 under my belt kekw, right before washy sodak meta so way long ago xD
but now just want a good team

Well as I said, break for too long and now all these prs to catch up on 
So, you didnt have noshiro right?
nope

Just got nagato so can finally do a dece comp
dont even have amagi, thankfully got richy tho

NO NOSHIRO?
So after talking to some ppl here came up with comp: nagato hiryuu richy + juneau ykk belfast. Will probs swap belfast for sanrui when I get her dev30
well it will still work you just need 120 in all ships +20% on the ataker will to the job
NO NOSHIRO?
@crude mortar just get a bit more lenient anyway w/ him smhw
As IRL things might matters more to him at that time
I quit completely from gacha games for a bit cuz I was struggling in school and had 0 money and I like being at least semi serious and try to compete too much, hence I like spending at least some money. Wasnt sustainable feelsbadman. Now i got a job so iz cool
So after talking to some ppl here came up with comp: nagato hiryuu richy + juneau ykk belfast. Will probs swap belfast for sanrui when I get her dev30
@glad trail seems nice enuff tbh
U want Richy flag tho if sanrui d30, either nugget or richy should get ditched
yea you can
Ik nagato needs flag so idk, ppl here (dont remember names) said richy was sidegrade from amagi, but would that only be if flagship then? rip
richy needs the flag to burn everyone in the backline
you can use nagato in the side
to shotgun someone
oh lol
just doing mine to get them out of the way
hmm, nagato not flagship seems highly not nice? is she even worth using then?
the peeps recommending the comp said nagato flag richy side so idk

depends on what you have
its not optimal obv but what else can you use
Well, i dont think amagi is coming back anytime soon? so im just gonna stick with richy side for now. I also have her full max so dont have to really worry about it xf
try to learn from the matches you can get top ranks even with northern parliament
need good luck and 120 in every ship the +20% damage for attacker will do the job
no warspite no sorry
Isnt atker always 20% more dmg? did it change o.O
same
huh
They have update it on the wiki
Usually Eva gear + white shell
@mint hornet Are you at 10/10?
I thought i was gonna do akagi kaga with nagato but several ppl that are apparently good here said the hiryuu richy nagato one was better
I'm 5/10 now
Oh nice, you got a pretty good start
bruh
Whatever team you need now works
slap in akagi kaga jintsuu sendai yukikaze and hope
Nakaga still good but now they can be counter easily

Specially since warspite retro
wait since twin 100mm is best on ykk isnt the new pr3 one better?
Nakaga is like a punching bag
i have 16/25 for it
maybe i get it soon?
Too many things just run it over
You trade AA for more gun damage
But ykkz doesn't need gun damage
Also some people use the 76mm
You need to spam Yuki barrage
The 76mm should be better for that purpose
But not good damage
Overall I'd say its an upgrade over her current options but not really significant
Twin 100mm is more balance between rld and damage
Twin 100 also has slightly higher reload
so, 76mm or twin 100? which should i use?
Either one works
@ionic magnet how your backline reach almost 16k?
ayaya worst answer for a pleb lile me. I dont know which to pick
Its just preference
ill just go for twin 100 since it got recommended earlier
when maxed
Use the 100mm then, I find barrages pretty unreliable
The AA sometimes helps against CV jank
So 2 457 for fdg and warkai?
ideally yes
Well make sense then
howd drake be in pvp do u guys think? worth using?
gun angle is worse
her ehp requires matches to go long
and for her to hit
it takes what, how many barrages to match azuma in one fight?
I think consensus was that pr3 ships aren't meta changing
Isnt ca/cb in pvp weak againt cv?
as a category, no
azuma has a TON of hp
so she can just shrug it off
cas depend
some have high aa just because
like cheshire wouldnt be weak to cv
but she wouldnt actually kill anyone
cause CA guns suffer from limited angles
speed vanguards will just shuffle out of the way
and then you just waste bullets
azuma just ignores that cause her gun has 45 angle instead of 38 or w/e
and her class barrage is aimed
and she is extra thicc

I see azuma have 7k when Dev 30 and lvl 120
CVs are the least of your concern in pvp anyways
Almost same health like backline
CAs are the least represented class in meta PvP fleets I'd say
They need to be extremely good skillwise to make up for that garbage gun angle.

basically you would need OVERWHELMING damage or huge tank stats
Im stuck
azuma gets both
Maybe of drake's flintlock barrage was better. She might have seen some use
But making it bigger wont be a rifle anymore will it
drake needed her aimed barrage to be on her class based one
More like a shotgun
not her 20s one
you could spam sanrui gun whiffs into aimed lifesteal
would be good
then push the damage down cause it is tied to gun rof
Currently I would rather use sanrui or roon in pvp over her
Drake doesn't deal enough damage and sustain has always been a meme
aimed class based would work
already dev 30 i see lol
with sanrui you could fit in 2

8
so 4 cds
We can still test her later, but we're not expecting much. Azuma already is such an amazing option.
So overall pr3 is pve ship?
Nagato faction buff puts her over the top
for the most part
ill still try odin
because she has actually new mechanics
that actually change risk reward
Not stopping me from running champagne for french memes. 
she wont be good but it is interesting design
Champagne is good for French fleet
i wish she could get to main range
once vg is down
that would be super cool
it hits all armor so
lost opportunity for pvp
Just imagine French ship with preload and shoot the most far ship (like warspite)
Going to be fun seeing fast barrages. But i have to check if her on-fire barrage is aimed
Champagne
oh ok
champs gun barrage is the pellet one
so uh
gl with that
it was like 30 pellets with fire chance i think?
aimed pellet barrage would be a neat idea
to be fair
I was also hoping that gasco barrage upgrade wasn't a mistake
we dont have one of those yet
Converging shells would have been nice
If that converging barrage existed
Would that make gascan a serious consideration for PvP?
yes
rich buffs her hit and durability
so she becomes a fake fdg
the total paper damage would be very high
If that was aimed and converges 
But all new pr updates looks to be pve
Pvp doesn't matter it seems
gear too
pvp never mattered
Pvp new patch when 
PvP old patch... What? oh wait, they nerfed CVs
3rd row, cvs will be good again xD
The most significant PvP patch is when they decided to kill DST
Yup daylight savings
It ruined two PvP seasons before the devs decided that it was too much trouble to adjust for DST
it is better anyways cause dst should die xD
Nah I enjoyed it when resets were an hour earlier
yes and when I could sleep at 2:20 instead of 3:20
w8 there was an actual nerf to the CVs?
First release, player airstrike would function like they do in PvE.
I forget if that was in EN alpha.
didnt we already have the answer
apparently that "updated" gascon barrage
is just wiki mistake

thats what they say in gamefeed anyways
Might be a scrapped version
chart

what kind of azuma are you using? 
Tbf if you don't speedmeme/get unlucky a helena-boosted owarida can chunk Azuma pretty hard
Even kill her if you're memeing w VH

if you tried or got that once then youre unluckier than halo
cos im using vh gear on mine

even if azuma does get one shot, you usually just blast them back with your own stuff
idk im bombing trump azuma in 1 air strike all time
xD
sooner or later one of us sandbaggers up here will eat a +0
top 20 on 2nd day of week 2
wtf
why are u censoring stuff
its not like u can hide from us
u in top 100

if u not we laugh
not
i found him
im 149

dont think so
NOT SAURE IF I MISS?
I didn';t
or u just ultra suck in bagging
do I gensui and cya next season
I get +2
u can get gensui even with 11 misses
last 3 reset
ofc u can
+2+2+2
that means u lost a round
impossible for a bagger to get +2
or u mean+ 1 +! +!
yes
dunno depends on u what
as long as you are fast boy
ask yourself inside
you can get top 10
my insiude say cya next season
just pray for weak defense and rush all 5 in under 3 mins


people fighting on gamefeedback over pr prints as usual
i say we make it a feedback that they should add dr prints on pvp shop

it was suggested long time ago tho
i know
she got deleted by warspite instead

or just wiff her plane damage. that works too 
that actually could have ended bad if RNG decided to keep that enty alive
Food delivery is pretty late nowadays 
interesting. we might have a new EoS ranker this season
we need more

the day should come all top 10
is from this discord club
most slots we got iirc is 6 slots
No famine this season though
I'll probably ease up on the sandbagging with school starting up soonish
It's another super close season where gensui rush will determine final ranks
famine is normally very high up at this stage
must have dropped a reset
there he is
ded
Also idk if i'm gearing wrong, but WS/Amagi/FDG feels inferior to Richie/WS/FDG
I'm 3 behind CZ, 2 behind Kamui and 1 behind Roomier
You're actually lower than me


I'd have more points but I was playing that DAL game
So was pushing earlier
Also like 9 hours down on PR now
I should be to able to pick up PVP tho, if I start sleeping properly
dal>>>>azur lane!!!11
last time I started a new game, it got shut down in 6 months
I'll stick with AL PvP until new blood beats all the vets here
it's already starting

im already outsandbagged by many
remember when i was always 2-4
then 6-8
now im 12ish

||start azurlane again then!!!!1||
My issue is sleeping & thinking I can wake up when there's only 2 hours till reset
alarm not working?
my sandbagging score will be more or less the same

never reset 
We're not young whipper snappers anymore. Us old folks get tired early 
Nah i'm just sleep deprived



next season I might note my score each reset
to see what could posibility go wrong

I should remake that score reference sheet one day

why tho
dont note

It doesn't seem to reflect a good season like my last few
the key to sandbagging is consistency tbh
but I suppose it's average enough
@past egret maybe u rank up, cannot found u on ensin 
pretty confident i got very few bonuses on first rounds
bu still end up with the same usual score
on eos
just keep doing it

as long as your start isn't "stalled into next season" bad
you can recover pretty easily with consistent bonuses the next few days
def early 2019

We have Richelieu now. I will use her if I need to
werent u able to get top 1 when i quit
Eldie and her CA lvl speed
before hooloo
yes, once

or was it twice
one time was a rush to get r1 first before famine
newbloods getting better
they're learning 
bel juneau, yea, they're learning 
oh wait what

"oh hey enemy has no ykkz"
enemy proceeds to take no backline dmg yet deals a shit ton to mine when i'm using ykkz ๐
Just heal it lol
Oh I got Kamui. Hope he moves a bit early so I get a +2 this reset
if only yuki's heal could be 20% 

The downside of rushing early for the 3rd reset is that you're less likely to get viable food for +1
Which seems be the case for me this time
Probably good for the rest of you sandbaggers though because if I'm behind enough pts I might just rush on second last day
Kamui is holding out on the last 2 matches
Kamui rushes later than you sometimes
he's prob lurking here
Like I'm talking about finishing on less than 1 min left
That is really risky
yeah, you might find 
some bad rng and a match can go past a minute
1:30 against eld has to be the worse case of rng I had
i think my worst ones was just waiting for a ykkz to die after everyone else wiped
Operation Rainbow Operation Rainbow Operation Rainbow
Owarida
Owarida
Owarida 
Two seasons ago I died to a WFC while I wasn't looking. I then got stalled out by the same WFC later in the season and lost another tick
I stopped using hiryuu after that
Once again
one more match you shitter
I'm at 10/10 ffs
though, I think this guy's a sandbagger, so RIP?
actually i wonder if i can preserve my launch time if i run skyrocket and swap to ryuusei
probably not
oh it should be close
oh that works pretty well
i didnt think her take off would be low enough
was sky gonna potato me
i guess the net change from vf to skyrocket offsets the cuda to ryuusei
i thought ryuusei was much slower than it is
dem rings 
Lykkelii is also a sandbagger iirc
morledy came thru
the others didnt move in about 3:45 hours
pretty sure it is another +1 split
kek
Dear PVP, I have been pulling 3 light a day since 2 days into Nagato Rerun. So about 10 days now. Still no Yukikaze. 

does anyone else's pause button just randomly stop working sometimes?
just lost 2 matches cause i couldnt pause
I gave up on the pause button and just swap out/kill the game.
pretty sure i tapped the middle of the pause button
might set up a keybind on emulator just to make sure
Emulator? Why not just pause when you lose focus?
As soon as the app senses the emulator lost focus, the game auto pauses.
and it doesnt resume when you go back into the app?
I think the game lags when there's a bunch of planes or BB bullets then you just see a lose screen.
The game should throw up the pause screen. If it doesn't, kill the emulator.
sounds more like a device thing
3 baggers on each other 
oh
my last round was cay

your backline died faster than front
wouldve been better if u dumped wskai for hiryuu
its even so far from losing

for some reason your wskai cant hit amagi
are yours wearing glasses properly
Donโt make fun of granny

But this is great. Need to save refreshes for last match per reset
I can get screwed there now
I just fought a richie warkai amagi fleet with saint louis and jda, and their vanguard actually outtank the backline
oh jda is pretty good at stalling, right?
jda is good at stalling against certain timings
it's just most ships dont hit in that timing
main problem is she is slow, so the net damage you take is increased too
if she had a normal engine like any other cl she'd probably be really good
Who do you use with eldridge if you want to stall someone into the next season?
I like the sheffy idea
you need to get her to live to 20 so sheffield is good
stall longer with hiryuu over warkai
i dunno if i'd use ykkz with eldridge
welp, i almost have my pvp fleet all to level 120
yukikaze is lagging behind at 118 rn
The problem with eld is that shes slow
Feels like DD is a good way to increase speed of vang
is monarch a good tank?
hmm, JdA should be good with eld, minus the obvious double super slow ships issue
Bel JdA Eld?
with JdA shield not setting evasion rate to 0, Bel smoke might be able to keep it on Eld for a while

low speed helps keep them inside bel smoke too
Well, past first 10 s, it's bel smoke and JdA shield into Lusty and Eld proc into JdA shield again, should able to stretch it out long enough for a second Eld proc?
eld will be really low from dev 30 azuma
but i dont think she dies without extra help
Yeah my main concern is that eld might just get low from Azuma + torps before she procs
Also I'm not convinced that Bel + JdA have much to offer after their first skills procs
one off from a (very likely) +1
I thought it was 6 hour maint
Meming. Never trust the projected time 
Short ones usually end earlier which is nice
Not like I'm awake at the time it's up to make a difference
But it's there I suppose
That one 24 hour maint was no Bueno

That season was a disaster. 20/20 hindsight that I should have rushed pvp

useless info but odin can shoot at each other with dd aux gun in pvp
kms is meta, if u reset hard enough
amagi bisco fdg 
aren't memes totally useless?
aren't 2 t0 comps that?
why would u say meme?
especially richy ws fdg. u have 2 ijn ships 1 french 1 hms 1 kms and 1 uss
maybe should start teaching sandy players how to pvp

This is looking more and more like a rush season for me
and today yet again i hav to reset a fk ton of times against some guy clearly using trash gears

ty random for drop gear 
sure let some guy using pearl toolbox yuki take no burn dmg and evade every fucking bb shot
double toolbox ws kai 
im sure dats fucking fair
oh and to rub it in lets giv him more average procs every match
wow
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Being halo is suffering
oh hes running jintsuu? lets make her fucking tanky for no goddamn reason and let me take +100% torp dmg even when using noshi
10/10 game mode
faceless has a pretty scary fleet
I had to snipe his FDG because she was doing too much damage when I didn't focus her
Do warkai good with hpfcr if im not have twin457 yet? 
oh just noticed the same guy can consistently get 3 ihr procs at the same time
just wow man fk off with ur rng
bloody cb
QE and enty on one fleet 
u not understand , its erika meta 
people complain about hpfcr ws with triple guns that she cannot kill enty due to her evasion skill timings. idk how good it is tbh and how much u need to kill enty anyway @upper sparrow

it was mostly for ws+cv comp anyway
So wfc with hpfcr good then?
i think hpfcr is still worth if u don't have that problem tbh
Would it be more advantageous to run Richlieau/Essex/Hiryuu or Richlieau/Georgia/Hiryuu?

esses seems really a stretch for pvp. enty is better

so funny happening to my research today
2 rainbow fdg research in a row
both 1 fdg bp ea and 2 azuma ea in a row too
how can i rush my fdg meta pvp now

game design at its finest
fdg gun? really?
fdg gun is twin 406...
twin 406 0 prints within 4 weaks...
do u actually need that?
only for fdg , on ws kai prototype twin 406 gold still work
i can test on fdg this gun , but seems not good for her
that sounds like a terrible idea on both

just use triple ap on ws if not 457 and any triple he on fdg
why are u worried about cd on one of the tankiest ships... is not like she'll die before shooting

Triple AP gun w HPFCR fires right into rudder timing
It does avoid enty timing, but you can kill enty after her proc ends anwyays
And the annoying entys run rudder anyways
what if ur entire teams shoots at the same time as enty proc...
#richiJBHiryuu things
Hiryuu needs to counter enty herself 
HPFCR Triple 381 HE hits before rudder iirc, btw
these maints are nice when they go as planned
actually got +2 this round
+3 is possible, just horribly unlikely
I wonder if anyone managed to get +1 from r1-2
right around a reset, if you sandbag properly, r1 should be a +0 for the first half of second week 
5/10 right before reset, 10/10 right after
yeah, basically
and ofc when you are r1, r2 can be a -1 
Yesterday I didn't got any bonus points in the last reset despite waiting till last 8 minutes
And now I'm still at 10/10
I guess I'm not going to be in the top 10 this season
I used one refresh three hours after maintenance ended but still no luck
dedication

still need to 120 smol lusty and lena for team debuff X_x
maybe try get aotn with 5 miss matches 
Nep fleet is a pretty good flex
when people take pvp to the extreme
should have done dork/purple heart to add in more rie tanaka
neptune, neptune, purple heart for vg
dork/x/x for main i guess
Sumire Uesaka should just run a fleet of ships voiced by Sumire Uesaka
Although no VA has voiced enough ships to make a full fleet
Might never happen because VAs tend to have a preferred hull type
yeh
clearly the solution is to mix up personality types between classes
aka
more loli BB/CVs pls

Its in his name
makes sense




it's long





@shy hazel have screens meme fleets on jp? 

i click a few buttons and its done

is this good enough of a meme fleet for u?
most of them are just random stuff like this
make a ASW fleet
is this good enough of a meme fleet for u?
@zenith tundra vg not much hp
dragon empire bb when 
are there even enough ships with asw skills to make a comp? odin, koln and chaser i know. are there other ships?
taihou

then hermione too if we go for barrages that can hit subs
so we have taihou odin chaser backline and koln cooper and hermione front







it's hooloo


















