pvp

[ionic magnet]

are you guys serious

fdg + warkai can kill my rudder sg warkai in less than 20 secs

[sour oasis]

I like 4. I redo if I eat torp-meme.

[hot creek]

its the RNG factor. FDG only op when she wants to be. ie, when she crits.

Same reason why torp memes can be op

[shy hazel]

fdg is op when she hits

and she doesnt most of the time

[frail orbit]

fdg + warkai can kill my rudder sg warkai in less than 20 secs
@ionic magnet and to note on Mikumo's acc I did used torpmeme + Namawakai comp + lots of resets smhw

[ionic magnet]

nah noone can kill my warspite that fast other than fdg

if you think fdg is meh

then everyone is a joke

[shy hazel]

i dont use wskai anyways

so its all easy

[frail orbit]

nah noone can kill my warspite that fast other than fdg
@ionic magnet actually p much so on my acc against mikumo's too, need lots of resets to actially win against myself so

Against famine tho, it was on my acc

When I was forced to rush yesterday
Koz my lil bro smhw

[shy hazel]

met some fdg d30 including fams

never reset me once

the last time someone got me reset

was a memer with hiryuu flagship

[frail orbit]

Mine was
For some reason, it crits too hard on my rented acc

Tho personally it was just 2 resets needed, last time I reset more than that on Mikumo's acc was against Hiryuu non flag, non Wakai focus smhw on Namaryuu

[ionic magnet]

idk but i think we can agree that fdg is better than hiryuu on def yea?

[hot creek]

idk about that.

[shy hazel]

i dont tbh

until theres more fdgs

we will see

[frail orbit]

Not really

[ionic magnet]

well yea i only tested famines so

[frail orbit]

Not now at least

[hot creek]

torp meme Hiryuu is still bothersome if they get lucky.

[frail orbit]

^

[hot creek]

and I havent faced enough fdg d30 457 to make evaluations yet

[frail orbit]

On mikumo's it was against hiryuu too

[shy hazel]

in scales of annoying def

hiryuu > wskai > fdg

rn

[frail orbit]

That I resets more than 1, and more than 2

Smhw ffs

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

fdg + hiryuu maybe annoying def

but fdg + wskai i fought once

and it was easy with hiryuu

cos overreliance on bb

[frail orbit]

And I take mikumo's acc as a pleb acc since his being around Kanzaki Erika's level

[sour oasis]

Wait until you see 457

[shy hazel]

fam has 457

[frail orbit]

Wait

He has it now?

[shy hazel]

fam always has it

he wants his 2nd one

[whole terrace]

Isnt famine running richy ws fdg?

[frail orbit]

Aint he went PR3 tho for now?

[shy hazel]

now ye

he alrdy dev 30 everything

he whaled pr2

[ionic magnet]

Isnt famine running richy ws fdg?
last season yea when i tested

[shy hazel]

[whole terrace]

Is he running namagi fdg now?

[shy hazel]

hes using meme rn

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

well if ppl consider rich as meme

its meme

[ionic magnet]

1:1 fdg azuma early season

[frail orbit]

Just famine thing, I'd say

[whole terrace]

Famine's trying a different comp, could be that, unless there's a reason FDG is being singled out for being underwhelming

Trump doesn't run FDG?

[ionic magnet]

trump is back to namaryuu for some reason

[whole terrace]

I never saw him running fdg

[shy hazel]

its because

[ionic magnet]

yea actually

[shy hazel]

there isnt enuf fdg d30 to fight against

and if i havent personally tested it i dont believe it

[ionic magnet]

[whole terrace]

I have and i believe it

[ionic magnet]

cant wait for ppl to get rekt

[shy hazel]

you cant

when i have my own

[frail orbit]

trump is back to namaryuu for some reason
@ionic magnet thats surprisin tho

[shy hazel]

mirror is still superior to any fleet

[ionic magnet]

@ionic magnet thats surprisin tho
trumps namaryuu is weird too
went 15-0 last season

[sour oasis]

Trump never loses

[frail orbit]

Havent encountered Trump namaryuu in the last season anyway

[hot creek]

if its not torp meme namaryuu, its garbage

[shy hazel]

whats wrong with beating namaryu

[whole terrace]

I was thinking that. People have come in flexing like 'x team did well against Trump'

[shy hazel]

[whole terrace]

But if everyone's doing well against it...

[shy hazel]

there really isnt any hard fleet when u geared

anyways

trumps golden era was uss era

he was easy to eat when ijn came

[frail orbit]

[ionic magnet]

wasda era

[hot creek]

everyone complained about Lucky E duels. Meanwhile me and Daxam chilling with HMS.

[sour oasis]

Everyone is ready to eat if you have event equipments...

[hot creek]

Eldridge meta as well

she was pretty useful at the time

[frail orbit]

HMS meta only shaped by FC nowadays

In the past it has more variation . . .

And Wakai not even HMS

[sour oasis]

Eld+Lusty still annoying. Beatable, but fight can drag.

[frail orbit]

Like FDG not being KMS

[shy hazel]

daxam

we all had respecc for daxam

until he went haywire

[sour oasis]

"Haywire"?

[hot creek]

He never went haywire. Desist the slander at this instant.

[shy hazel]

pls

we all know daxam was crazy for qe

until the very end

[hot creek]

QE was legit up until warkai released.

[sour oasis]

"End"? (why don't we have QEmotes?)

[shy hazel]

its old timer stuff here

[hot creek]

we used to have QE emotes

[frail orbit]

Removed there

[hot creek]

mods decide to remove for whatever reason

[sour oasis]

I'm old enough my memory needs kick starting.

[frail orbit]

[shy hazel]

daxam basically just fought anyone who had other opinions about qe

he and zack always bickered

[ionic magnet]

i miss the daily QE debates

[hot creek]

even though they're one of the few emotes that can actually fucking express anger

[ionic magnet]

tho most of it was memery

[sour oasis]

I don't remember bickering.

[ionic magnet]

and daxam had enough and left

[frail orbit]

Was before my time ehh keks

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

that was the time

daxam slowly became the qe meme guy

its basically the evolution

[sour oasis]

Huh. Dax not even the in the server?

[shy hazel]

left long time ago

like a year ago

when was the tierlist made

he left at that time

5/11/2019 yes

its a year

you wont forget someone as memerable as dax

iirc i think the tierlist was the final straw why he left

cos qe and hms wasnt listed in the tier he wanted

he still has editing powers in there tho

[hot creek]

no, pretty sure he didn't care that much. I think he just got busy with work.

[shy hazel]

theres no reason to leave pvp what

he still sandbagged 2 months after he left

[ionic magnet]

prolly got tired of memes tbh

and its the dead period where nothing happens in pvp

[hot creek]

^ that too. The chat wasn't really brining in anything interesting. He been casual in pvp ever since.

[naive dome]

i'm using richie amagi hiryuu team, who should I put beaver badge on ?

[shy hazel]

[hot creek]

Any one of them is fine tbh. I tend to put it on whoever has the most innate EVA though

[shy hazel]

richie amagi

u dont want to dump richie for nagato?

[shell heron]

Back when I was using hiryuu. She had it. She tends to die last

[naive dome]

i just got nagato, she's still level 70ish

[shy hazel]

well i guess theres no jp pr this time

so cant grind properly

[crude mortar]

who is mikumo rofl

[shy hazel]

wasnt the the accnt that someone is borrowing

[naive dome]

will the meta become royal navy once the next event rolls out ?

[shy hazel]

dont think so

ppl has expectations of ho tho

[vague token]

howe buffs non-hms as much as she does hms

her own fp boost is like insignificant

[shy hazel]

so that means

hms may be more viable but not meta

[naive dome]

what are good HMS vanguard ?

[shy hazel]

[naive dome]

i can only think of aurora :/

[shy hazel]

good theres alot

meta best not really

belfast

neptune

that lesser purple maid

forgot name

aurora isnt really "good" anymore

shell die before cvs even launch at this rate

[vague token]

aurora is just for preload now but even then it's probably better to just use someone who lives

or just focus on ykkz cause cls arent that hard to kill

use chapayev or something

[shy hazel]

sasuga kiro

knows the biggest meme around

[vague token]

of course

is it optimal? nope

but it is hilarious

[frail orbit]

who is mikumo rofl
@crude mortar my friend
I was handling his acc btw, nowadays not really as I'm really busy to actually handle his acc and mine concurrently, and he's now on AL again keks

[crude mortar]

your brother?

is he the guy that isn't weeb but play azur lane?

[upper sparrow]

not weeb
play azur lane

[shell heron]

You don't have to be a weeb to appreciate the culture here

Pvp def fleets is where we show of how cultured we are

[vague token]

i forgot to swap in smol lusty for 3rd main fleet debuffer

[shy hazel]

what memery are u planning again

[vague token]

team debuff

rich/amagi/smol lusty, kizuna/lena/juneau

[proper sorrel]

enemy debuff fleet vs team debuff

i want to see it

[vague token]

kizuna has a 12% or so chance to buff the enemy by like a bit

[crude mortar]

my def fleet very cultured

[shy hazel]

cultured milk

[proper sorrel]

hiryuu looking a lil' purple

[shy hazel]

oh wait

hiryu is not refitted

its cultured shit

[ebon schooner]

Not even full 120

Filth

[sterile bluff]

ok i rly need a good vg tank

is nep not good enuf?

don't have noshi nor azuma

[cinder crater]

Don't people use Juneau to tank

[shy hazel]

whether u use jun as tank or mid

is a preference or need

[vague token]

mine is off tank xD

[shy hazel]

i didnt notice but it seems that my tank is jun

it was mid months ago

i tell u im ignorant on my own fleet

cos someone sets it for me

[sterile bluff]

guys halllp!

i need main tank ignoring juneau

[upper sparrow]

What is wrong with jun tank

We dont even know what vg u have

Bcs jun tank/mid- X ship-ykkz is one of basic vg meta

[vague token]

juneau tank is the gamble

you pray nagato doesnt one shot you on first gun barrage

if she doesnt she's fine

[ripe latch]

nakaga + sirius

[shy hazel]

get out memer

[ripe latch]

👀

[shy hazel]

waifu fleet

[lament lichen]

jun tank depends on who you fight

[proper sorrel]

as long as she doesn't die very fast

[upper sparrow]

Joke aside, i rarely meet namaryuu or any nagato def in lexington rn

Not that rare, but not as much like in the past

Thats why i usually put jun on tank now
Well ofc i would put jun mid when meet namaryuu

[midnight heron]

juneau tank is the gamble
more like pvp is a gamble in itself

[shy hazel]

yes

esp for halo who always gets bad rng

[midnight heron]

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

[lament lichen]

Just dont get stalled to next season

[shy hazel]

@shell heron

someone making fun of u

its me

[coral wren]

[safe meteor]

hows the new magnetic torp aux gonna be for pvp? will the normally manual torps be a bit useful thanks to this?

[proper sorrel]

only the first preload will be magnetic

[shy hazel]

lets see

u sacrifice one aux slot so your normal torp will become magnetic

for the preloads

vs the current that u can just use magtorps and use rainbow dildo

current one seems alot better unless u dont have magtorps

its just that new torp gives some hit iirc

personally i think the new torp aux is redundant

heard subs cant even equip it

[safe meteor]

if you would normally equip the oxy torp i was wondering

[zenith tundra]

useless unless a ship doesn't live to 2nd wave

if ur ship is dying before 2nd wave u shouldn't be using oxy anyway

only ibuki would benefit enough from the hit to make it worth

but u would still use mag torp

[shy hazel]

if u want a torp defense team

some ppl just use double oxytorp on their ships

cos its gonna die after preloads anyways

[zenith tundra]

people can use as many torp as they want they are still irrelevant for defense

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

anyway if only 1 preload then black oxy is better

good luck farming 2 of those to meme useless pvp defense

[shy hazel]

do ppl even grind it in jp

i doubt

[zenith tundra]

nothing better to farm tbh

[shy hazel]

ill just get a copy in exchange

and move on

[ripe latch]

oxy on def its gg

[zenith tundra]

i'm doing c2 for pr xp but it's either d1 for black oxy or c2 for pts/oil ratio

[shy hazel]

i wont grind any event map for pr anyways

btw

can u show me shop pic

i need to set goals

[zenith tundra]

it's usual stuff. 1 sr ship, 10 dr bps, 30 pr bps, black oxy and hornet and the other usual stuff

hornet is 2k and black oxy is 135x15

[shy hazel]

dr universal is

pr2 3 now?

[zenith tundra]

yes u can exchange for both seasons

[shy hazel]

wonder if yostar will listen to beggars and put separate dr bp for pr2 only

i doubt it tho

tho i need it

[zenith tundra]

at this point u can just use pr3 on pr2-1 ships. most likely pr3 won't be as short as pr1 and pr2 in en since no longer need to catch up

[shy hazel]

ye ik

ill just pour ething for fdg anyways

[shell heron]

I wake up to see

[karmic forum]

A dead chat

[shy hazel]

chilling effect still there

anyways

i miscalculated oil usage

oil will run out after 4th pr

demerits of quitting

[ripe latch]

miss 5 cya on next

[cosmic forum]

If I"m just using my 120 monarch/essex/enty boss fleet for pvp, around what level would nagato/amagi/hiryuu kai give me roughly the same performance?

[sour oasis]

I thought Hoo would move in the last 5 minutes. They didn't.

So they were closer to me than I thought, or they slept through a reset.

[karmic forum]

Reminder that Hoo is down 3 this season

[shell heron]

I don't see anyone else near me

other than Kamui, but he's not here

Unless famine pushes it down to the last seconds

[whole terrace]

@cosmic forum Not sure, but I personally don’t like using newly levelled ships for pvp til they’re like lvl 118, because level disadvantage pulls them down before that. Are you trying to decide when to switch over to ur new team?

[karmic forum]

I'm 1 up on you Cay

But I'm busy this weekend so I'm probably not going to sandbag the entire way

[cosmic forum]

Yeah basically. Heh so 105 probably isn't going to cut it

[whole terrace]

You can try mixing them in while they're getting levelled, like running monarch amagi enty for example

I'm running level 100 nagato level 110 sheffy level 120 everyone else on the amagi server, though the teams are easier there

[cosmic forum]

Perhaps I"ll start swapping out the ships near max level one by one. But 120 warkai's really delete underleveled backlines

[whole terrace]

Amagi's buff will make it easier to tank warkai with your other ships

And yes that's a good idea

[cosmic forum]

Helena/sheffield with junaeu/ykk are reasonable stop gaps until I can get noshiro/azume?

[vague token]

sheffield will help make ykk tank even more

helena is for boosting main fleet damage

so either is fine until later

[cosmic forum]

Helenas part of my w13 boss fleet so that makes things easy short term. thanks

[ripe latch]

juneau sheffi yuki

[elder crane]

just play one more match, pls

[karmic forum]

FeelsBadMan

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

m i s s

[somber axle]

Alright PVP, I give up. Tried to beat this about 12 times and no luck. See you next season!

[shut lynx]

what are you using

[vague token]

yeah... jb is holding you back against that

and ayaya

[shut lynx]

jb can handle that

the problem its your vanguard

[somber axle]

Unfortunately, I don't have anyone better right now.

[midnight heron]

just call hax 🤓

[ripe latch]

*5 azuma

any trp team

aya not live vs her

[somber axle]

This is a 60 pt difference

Is that +2?

Not that I could beat it right now.

[ripe latch]

imagine if jb can hit azuma with double gyro

[ionic magnet]

12 resets? someone did 30+ before

[somber axle]

I can't beat it, FDG always survives. 😂

And Yuki survives 90% of the time.

[ionic magnet]

btw you need 70 pts for a +2

[somber axle]

Okay, that makes me feel better.

I just took the other team which still gives me +1.

[ripe latch]

put enty

or any cv

[somber axle]

Enty > JB?

My enty is 112

[ripe latch]

jb usless

[somber axle]

I'm dorming all my pvp ships, will get my revenge soon ™️

• Nagato

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

you need to uh LB belfast

right now

[upper sparrow]

Why pick jb over enty

[somber axle]

I will LB her soon

After tonight's reset once I have coins.

[upper sparrow]

Im sure u can defeat that nama fdg even without enty lv120

[somber axle]

112 enty > 120 JB?

[upper sparrow]

Yeah

[somber axle]

🤔

[upper sparrow]

just pick jb for memes

[ionic magnet]

doubt its any better but you already reset 12 times

why not try

once more

[somber axle]

What equip for Enty? This is what I have right now.

[ionic magnet]

oh wait you already fought the other guy

[mint hornet]

also don't check your dorm before you LB her, otherwise the xp she can gain will be lost since she's capped atm

[upper sparrow]

Im not seeing warkai, so enty should survive if nagato not proc her big seven twice a row

[somber axle]

Belfast is 80, cap is 90

I think?

[ionic magnet]

cap is 80

[upper sparrow]

Also dealing more damage to backline moar than jb

[somber axle]

RIP

I go LB now lol

[ionic magnet]

thats why i told you to LB her

[somber axle]

Okay done, what equip for Enty?

[ionic magnet]

rudder/beaver + avgas/beacon

[somber axle]

Beaver???

[ionic magnet]

just dont use catas

yes theres no safe spot now

you want atleast 1 eva gear on CVs

[somber axle]

Okay, I can do aviation fuel + beaver. But if I swap to Nagato / Hiryuu later, who gets Beaver?

Because guide says put beaver on Nagato.

[ionic magnet]

either hiryuu or nagato is fine

you want rudder on the other bote anyways

[somber axle]

I only have 1 rudder, and it's on portland.

[ionic magnet]

mm SG should work on nagato then

[somber axle]

Okay, thanks.

[ionic magnet]

or you can just ditch portland by then

[somber axle]

Vanguards, I don't think I have anyone better right now. Until Belfast is leveled.

[ionic magnet]

unfortunately yea

i'd assume no hsfcr also?

[somber axle]

Not yet, will take another few weeks. I'm 13/25

Belfast / Juneau / Sandy this is better right?

Amagi won't get pre-load bonus without Aya though.

[ionic magnet]

2x SG on amagi nagato and beaver + avgas/beacon for hiryuu

[proper sorrel]

fortune juneau belfast

[somber axle]

Fortune??

[ionic magnet]

idk abt sandy shes just as meme as aya cos CVs arent a threat in def

[somber axle]

Okay so Belfast / Aya / Juneau?

Belfast tanks?

[ionic magnet]

yea

[shut lynx]

jb amagi richeliu can take down fdg dev 30 + amagi + warspoon retro who saying jb is bad lol ?

its +20% for the attacker you just need a good vanguard

[proper sorrel]

jb can't hit vanguard

[shut lynx]

she can

btw you can try to time helena debuff for that fight

[ionic magnet]

sure she can kill anyone but too much rng for my taste

[shut lynx]

a lot of hit

[somber axle]

Helena too much effort, I just wait till Belfast is ready.

[shut lynx]

i don't use JB either but i saw a guy that consistently killed a amagi fdg dev 30 and warspite retro with jb+richy and gascogne

[ionic magnet]

[shut lynx]

o azuma dev30 too

even northern parliament

[ionic magnet]

ok im listening

[shut lynx]

the thing is to be 120 in every ship

[ionic magnet]

curious about that def comp gears

you got any links for the vid?

[shut lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r68Y7WGe9yg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UteTI3rV-YE

[somber axle]

If only I had gascogne so I can french meme too. I have everyone else.

[shut lynx]

yes you just need 120 on every ship and of course good gears

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBuSZ9vgvM

[proper sorrel]

meme

[vague token]

14.5k vg?

that's like oxy ykkz

not sure on main, does namagi/fdg usually hit 15.4?

[ionic magnet]

i need to test how often does jb+rich preload hit VG

[shut lynx]

with a rainbow gun yes

[ionic magnet]

that guy nearly killed juneau on first salvo everytime

[vague token]

yeah, because that guy is running oxy

14.5k vg

lol

[ionic magnet]

oh lol

wait no

13.7k

should be good right

[vague token]

i mean the 2nd vid

xD

err 3rd

[ionic magnet]

ah im looking at the first

but anyways the shells still physically hit

[vague token]

yeah, the thing is rich can do that solo usually

[ionic magnet]

surprising it hit everytime in 3 fights lol

[vague token]

off tank juneau is last to move

because offtank is last to pivot

when you change directions

[ionic magnet]

yea thats one thing ig

[vague token]

start of battle often has VG doing a "direction" change

[ionic magnet]

i got rich at 117 now so ill try later

[vague token]

oh i have keripo

i think he is running +40 speed lol

he seems faster than me xD

video 2 is no juneau on the main that benefits the most from juneau

xD

[shut lynx]

well maybe i got scammed xd but the thing is that its posible to beat those fleets

[vague token]

oh yeah for sure

rich alone with literally anything good can drag your win rate up

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

but so can other ships

so

[ripe latch]

enty solo can u win rate up

[vague token]

enty hard caps at the strong stuff

[ripe latch]

u enty not proc luckye?

[vague token]

i mean, she got shot before she could launch

here comes 5k+ crits from ws barrage or fdg dev 30

amagi barrage

nagato barrage splash

[ripe latch]

beaver beacon 1 miss guarante

[vague token]

you'll cheese hiryuu sometimes though

id rather use formi but im biased so

[ripe latch]

hiryuu boys

[zenith tundra]

for fleet power is around 15.5k namagi fdg and around 16.3k ws amagi fdg (16.1k with only 1 457)

but 14k vg is trash

[vague token]

i know 14k+ vg is sketch

just wasnt sure on main

im at like 13.7k with azuma/noshiro/juneau

going to dev 30 from dev 26 wouldnt push that much higher i think

[elder crane]

Namagi FdG at 15.4 k shouldn't be 457, right?

[zenith tundra]

this is bis without rainbow or fake stuff

yeah should be without 457

depends on fleet tech anyway

u can check for the guns dmg anyway. it can be not maxed oaths too

[elder crane]

This FC Hiryuu build I'm running
Feels exactly the fricken same as Richi JB Hiryuu lol
Perhaps not surprising since it works pretty much the same way lol
Clear out vanguard, get in decent amount of damage before hiryuu procs and clean up

[vague token]

triple cv?

[zenith tundra]

idk i find 3cv way worse then 3bb. too much rng on fc combo and they can just die to easily

[elder crane]

Hmm very familiar

Yeah, it's defs not exactly the most stable of teams lol

[vague token]

that damage lol

[elder crane]

It was a torp-VG NamagiWS

I'll show a vid vs a probably somewhat good team in a sec, uploading
As well as the equips I'm using

[vague token]

ah

[elder crane]

Though, just noticed, I should put my twin 130 on Sirius

[vague token]

i still get stuff like this boi ;)
https://gyazo.com/eda1315887f7a987cc16b1edc4eb0c36

https://gyazo.com/83c4658f725f9ea2bcb2464199d7f293

which gets this xD

say hi to keripo

kek

like yeah im using double sg rich but i feel like her damage is kinda high

(and double defensive on cvs)

[elder crane]

Oh, whoops
I think I sent out my twin 130 on a long comm lol

Tomorrow then

[vague token]

no? they updated that

you can grab it

you can lb/change gear ships on comms now

[zenith tundra]

yes

richy dmg is pretty good if she lands shoots on vg. i had her outdmg ws sometimes

[vague token]

ah

i guess im forcing her damage since i use formi

[zenith tundra]

without formie she is a bit like nagato; sometimes over 30k sometimes not even 20k

[vague token]

[elder crane]

Oh, you can?

Anyways
https://youtu.be/N-lAFr8fG2w

[vague token]

even with sirius, still cant nuke ykkz

[zenith tundra]

what if u used juneau instead of yukikaze?

have u tried that?

[elder crane]

Formi can get sniped before 1st launch by some teams

Which is

[vague token]

aka fdg or ws

with any supporting focus

i dont think any other ships can do it though

[elder crane]

457 ws w Monarch did it a few times
457 ws and FdG did it once too

I might try jun again later since it seems vs actually good teams, that risk might be necessary

[zenith tundra]

without azuma it becomes a too to rng and if opponent vg goes to the sides like ur 2nd attempt it was almost guaranteed loss vg fight. that makes it much harder to win after

[elder crane]

Yeah, that's one of the problematic situations
Somehow still won that one though lol

Hiryuu doing Hiryuu things

If only torp drops were timed like they used to be, instead of being fixed distance from target

Vs bouncy vanguards, the timing on ryuu drops is super inconsistent, which explains why I found it to hard to line formi timing up right

[zenith tundra]

what would make it more consistent would be them being drop in front of opponents even if they are top the sides. right now it's always from the middle

at the very least aimed ones

[vague token]

or add a new torp bomb that changes its vertical axis

to chase their target

[zenith tundra]

mag aimed torp lol

[vague token]

oh i mean the plane

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[vague token]

oh ok

[zenith tundra]

aimed torpedoes with magnetic follow

if the reduce dmg like mag for normal torp it wouldn't even be that broken

[vague token]

probably

going from oxy torp to mag is like what

30-40% base damage reduction?

[upper bronze]

if near loss just force quit azur lol

[elder crane]

You can literally quit PvP matches

[vague token]

you dont have to force quit the game

just pause

and exit

[zenith tundra]

just hit the pause button and exit

[upper bronze]

ok

[vague token]

or if you want to see the full result

turn off all internet/wifi/data

or be like me and forget and then lose

xD

those 5k fdg crits on formidable

[elder crane]

Anyways, when I measured, >0.8 s max variation for when ryuus drop torps aiming at vanguard

Formi stop is only 1.5 s, and the torps still have travel time to go

So

[ripe latch]

ryuus on def its meme

[zenith tundra]

my best results seems to be with 0.7s difference. might have just been rng anyway. not ryuusei

[elder crane]

0.9-1.7 s after when launch occurs is what I measured

[shy hazel]

magnetic torp bombs from planes

[karmic forum]

Oh stella is sandbagging this season as well

[shy hazel]

nein

im doing usual

[karmic forum]

You're pretty close with the sandbaggers in any case

[shy hazel]

will probably end t12 as usual

the new usual for me

[karmic forum]

I'm probably going to rush down to 0 unless I'm still ahead after gensui rush

Kamui at 1577, I'm at 1576, Cay at 1575

Joebiki at 1574

[shy hazel]

them eos t10 are like

wakes up 3 resets now

[karmic forum]

is where the EoS sandbaggers stand this season

[shy hazel]

i just do 2

[karmic forum]

I'm doing the same this season

But somehow I've been getting good luck regardless

[shy hazel]

i even forget to do rounds early

cos working and playing priconne

[shell heron]

Wait. Kamui got a +2 last reset

[karmic forum]

Apparently he did

[shell heron]

bit at +1 early and I think it screwed me

[karmic forum]

You either gamble on an early +1 or you wait until you're out of the range of the rushers

[shy hazel]

i always eat +1 early or not

[naive dome]

who should I use in Aurora place? I don't have Azuma or Saint Louis

[shut lynx]

helena ?

jintsuu

[naive dome]

isn't it kinda hard to time richie/amagi with helena ?

[zenith tundra]

noshiro would be best option

[shut lynx]

event only

[naive dome]

well i dont have noshiro either 😦

[zenith tundra]

if u want 4 ijn jintsuu if not u can use sheffield or belfast

[shut lynx]

i think you can

time it

oh yeah belfast works too

[naive dome]

hmm guess I'll raise jintsuu then

any viable french ship for that position?

[ripe latch]

riche usless with ijn

[shy hazel]

the only usable french ship in pvp is rich

and louis

[ripe latch]

jb

[zenith tundra]

jda or algerie. jda is like belfast anti foxes. algerie for anti torp but idk how good they actually are

[shut lynx]

they can win

just need 120

[zenith tundra]

would definitely use nagato in that comp over richy

it's hard to get 4 ijn without azuma or noshiro

[ebon schooner]

jda is dog

and omegalul

[ionic magnet]

pls do me a favor and dont use jda

voiceline spammer smh

[vague token]

so you're saying use sara

[zenith tundra]

it would matter if u play with voices...

[vague token]

[ebon schooner]

theres sound in this game?

[ripe latch]

requiem music from fdg

[shy hazel]

now that i think about it

its been a year since i last play azurlane

with sounds

[elder crane]

Well

Can't say I'm surprised, but

[shy hazel]

al has shit music anyways

[elder crane]

That setup I used above hits a hard wall once ppl actually start running speed setups on vanguard, lol

Though I am astonished on just how much of an impact it makes

Non-Azuma speed setup is like 50/50 to even take ykkz/Noshiro under half HP lol

Yet another case of "why can't you just run meta smh"?

[vague token]

yeh

time for me to shill rich/formi/hiryuu

kek

[shy hazel]

i mean hiryuu mid is actually good

[elder crane]

Pulled out Richi-JB-Hiryuu again, vs this guy w dev30 457 FdG Namagi Jun Noshiro Ykkz

[shy hazel]

even more if she got ganked fast

[elder crane]

That still does fine

[shy hazel]

[elder crane]

Faceless

No idea about Richi/formi w aurora here
4/4 times aurora dead before 20 s

Not exactly promising

Top FdG fairly annoying to dislodge
Once Hiryuu aims there, poof (lol what is AA), but need to clear out Namagi first

[vague token]

i wasnt using hiryuu on that guy and he would just nuke for 5k crits

i think it'd be ez with formi/hiryuu now xD

it's nigh 100% to wipe vg with rich/formi sync unless ykkz gets luck of the gods

unless rich chooses to shoot main xD

[elder crane]

Mmm, idk, aurora exploded 4/4 times for me after all before 20 s

[vague token]

i dont use aurora

[elder crane]

Mmm, idk about the vanguard just lolevadeing

[vague token]

well, usually you clip someone with the first shot

even if ykkz procs lucky on it (cause she's usually off tank)

she's on fire for full

if juneau is offtank then lol you win

[elder crane]

That's only if fire is even set

[vague token]

true, it's hard to tell which fire is on people if you arent looking at vg xD

[elder crane]

Does 2SG richi even break 50% hitrate vs ykkz?

And then 50% per shot to set fire

I think she breaks 50% by a bit, yeah

[vague token]

it helps since she has a hit buff

[elder crane]

Still, what, just over 170 hit vs, 210 eva?

[vague token]

i mean, that's better than azuma

tied with noshiro give or take

[elder crane]

203 eva

[vague token]

good enough for a main

[ripe latch]

mm sakura not kill fdg with 10% hp , balance

[elder crane]

Oh nope, 19 luck

Yeah she doesn't break 50% hitrate lol

[vague token]

i mean you get 3 shells xD

[elder crane]

Heck, I think she barely breaks 40% lol

[vague token]

pray to the baguette gods

[elder crane]

170 hit vs 203 eva is 55.3% hitrate
DD in PvP gets +5% evarate
And then 79 luck diff for 7.9%
42% or so

That's, what
Sub 50% to set a fire w 3 shells landed

Or, actually, basically 50/50

[vague token]

which is pretty good for 0s given grand scheme

[elder crane]

That's w 3 shells landed though

[vague token]

if i ever see him again ill double check how things go, but usually i lost after wiping vg cause fdg crits

[shy hazel]

when will fdg get fate

[elder crane]

Huh, interesting
I usually won cause lolHiryuu
Just need her to proc after vanguard dies, which is fine cause I run suicide setup

[vague token]

i was memeing like 3x as hard then

taihou/formi

so

[elder crane]

Oh, right, no Hiryuu

[vague token]

even going 50/50 winrate is amazing

im pretty sure if i ran hiryuu it'd just be a slaughter

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

his vg eats a lot of damage from azuma+rich pressure

if i recall

[shy hazel]

that frontline

[vague token]

why belfast lol

[shy hazel]

why aya

[ripe latch]

ihr + oxy + boilers

tanky bel

need lvl up sheffi

[elder crane]

Esp since I run aurora, yeah
Aurora bumps Richi up to 60+% hitrate vs ykkz/Noshiro
And JB to 50+ I would imagine

[ripe latch]

think new degen meta
azuma sheffi yuki/juneau

vs torps

[vague token]

sheff cant shield azuma

unless you mean sheff u

in which case

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

Also why not just noshiro vs torps

[ripe latch]

Also why not just noshiro vs torps
@elder crane low quality

[vague token]

kek

[naive dome]

how do you know if the enemy's FdG/Azuma is dev30?

[ionic magnet]

6 stars

[sour oasis]

It's zrqv the highest commander level? (125)

[shy hazel]

wasnt it fam

[karmic forum]

Theres a few people at 125 now

[shy hazel]

they raised the cap lvls so late anyways

[karmic forum]

Yup which is why high hq level doesn't mean much

People like Agito and Famine should be leagues ahead of everyone else by now based on how early they reached 120 compared to the rest of the server

[shy hazel]

shoulve been 140

[naive dome]

is georgia viable in offensive team against BB heavy/Azuma fleet ?

[karmic forum]

Shes generally seen as a worse warkai

Her barrage is a lot less reliable and she has no faction synergy to speak of

[vague token]

if her barrage targeting a main 100% of the time

she'd be fun

[sour oasis]

What's the most torp-meme-y all IJN offense, durability be damned: Noshiro, Ayanami, Ibuki?

[karmic forum]

Noshiro Yukikaze Jintsuu is fairly good

Not full meme but it's the most likely to force resets from my experience

[proper sorrel]

noshi yuki ibuki sounds interesting

[shell heron]

oh I mathed wrong. my target was only 33 up

[karmic forum]

F

[vague token]

noshi/ibuki/x is probably the core

[karmic forum]

Happens to the best of us sometimes

[shell heron]

it was honestly easy math, but my brain said no. oh well

I still get a +1 this reset

[karmic forum]

More likely that I'm 10 off

Because I counted too fast

[shell heron]

being top 50ish at the start of week 2 is already rough

getting more than +1 per reset is luccsaccing

[karmic forum]

I got +3 on a reset two days ago but it's been +1 every reset since

[upper bronze]

that's some nice prng

[ripe latch]

ibuki
jintsu better

[proper sorrel]

kek

[upper sparrow]

4 vg comp when

Ultimate ibuki-jintsu-noshi-ayaya torp memes

[vague token]

3rd row when

[ripe latch]

ayaya usless, how much more say this

she not enough hp to trade vs enemy trp team

if u miss noshiro u can try ibuki jintsu yuki, not high survive potential, but too more dmg

[shy hazel]

i got 0

[sour oasis]

HTF while rushing did I sleep through a reset

And three days away from Admiral day too.

[crude mortar]

[naive dome]

should I use Juneau on offense fleet?

[frail orbit]

Why not

[naive dome]

AVgas will add 140x4 = 560 health to planes, right?

[elder crane]

Yep

Not that most teams have any AA to speak of

[coral wren]

What's the most torp-meme-y all IJN offense, durability be damned: Noshiro, Ayanami, Ibuki?
@sour oasis i think noshiro ayaya jintsuu

[vague token]

also, most cv strats are either solo formi (you're dying to za warudo or the torps, not the planes)

or formi/x who has way too many total planes to shoot down anything

or solo hiryuu

who just waits until your vg is dead

so you have no aa

xD

here is 2 ryuusei + 150% efficiency straight to a backliner's face

or is it 3 i forget

[karmic forum]

Just you wait until they they release hakuryuu

[vague token]

10 total planes you think?

[karmic forum]

"Too powerful for PR3"

[ebon kraken]

Would that make Nagato irreplaceable again

Also how is the season shaping up for yall regulars?

[vague token]

already slept on matches

kek

it wasnt going well anyways though, i was like 20 behind cay even before that

xD

[karmic forum]

1638 9/10

One of my better seasons so far

[ebon kraken]

Yikes

How do you guys even get bonuses so far ahead xD

[vague token]

pray

also when you're farther up, you have less people to remember

because in a general sense, the same people usually make it to the upper scores at the same time period

so you're more likely to know the rushers

[karmic forum]

You can usually get at least +1

But +2 is rare

[vague token]

it's more important to avoid -1 xD

[ebon kraken]

Maybe im eating too early, but never ran into a +2 until gensui for a couple seasons now

[karmic forum]

I mean two +1's

[ebon kraken]

Ah that

[karmic forum]

+2 on a single match is pretty much impossible before gensui

[ebon kraken]

Would imagine it being pretty much impossible once you reach that threshold... maybe around +60 the going starts to get tough? Idk

[rocky shadow]

What is gensui?

[vague token]

i think it's called admiral of the navy or w/e

aka the last tier of bonus merits

for reaching top 10 at some point during the last 3 days of the pvp season

while having enough points

[shell heron]

We often refer to the 2nd reset of the first day of the last three days as gensui (I wanted to say friday but timezones )

Thats when the last tier should be available. We love that day because we go fishing for food

[ripe latch]

🥩

[coral wren]

amagi howe ws : work or no work

[elder crane]

errr
gensui is the JP name of the AotN rank lol
gensui rushes, sure, that happens to be right at that time

[shell heron]

Yes. But refering to it as gensui sounds nicer than AotN or the full admiral of the navy.

[elder crane]

yes, but no one calls the actual reset(s)/days as "gensui"
it's the rank

[ripe latch]

go found another food

shoukaku with beaver + cata

something new

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[past egret]

@ripe latch find me again with my new and improvedTM food German fleet

[ripe latch]

carry roon?

[past egret]

Carry Mainz

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

roon carry, gud joke

[elder crane]

Hmm
did I actually remember to do matches before last reset?

guess I'll find out now

oh hey, good job past me
though somehow I don't remember it

[sterile bluff]

WHY THE FUCK does enemy nagato always proc so often

meanwhile my monarch NEVER procs

[ripe latch]

give her ring

roon carry, gud joke
@vague token taihou carry

[sterile bluff]

this is so fucking triggering like what the actual fuck man

no way nagato is 40% and monarch is 70% in pvp

[ripe latch]

r n g

[elder crane]

it's the same psychology of why people think they can win in casinos despite the hard odds being against them

[ripe latch]

today see bug, enemy get hit but no lose hp, no miss

[elder crane]

the way human memory works biases perception towards rare events

[sterile bluff]

ok finally i won

after like 8 resets

monarch full proc 0 enemy nagato procs

[elder crane]

in casino, it's the RNG jackpot
in PvP here, it's that 12% for Nagato to barrage but not Monarch
or 1.44% for Nagato to proc twice and Monarch to not-proc twice

(or.... you get the idea)

[sterile bluff]

but enemy naga was full proccing

and 0 monarch procs

[elder crane]

210 PvP matches every season

it'll happen

[sterile bluff]

monarch overrated as fuck

in pve too

[elder crane]

you just don't remember when your monarch proc 100% and their Nagato proc 0%
"it's a win, as expected"

[sterile bluff]

that was after 8 resets

monarch finally decided to wake up

[elder crane]

wanna make a bet?
record next 10 matches and count barrage procs
I'll bet you 1k USD it's within 90% confidence interval

[sterile bluff]

and if i lose?

[elder crane]

you pay me 200 USD
time to become a casino
(jkjk for you mods out there)

[vague token]

taihou doesnt carry anything lul

except torp bulges

[ripe latch]

carry you heart

[sterile bluff]

she carries heavy tits

[vague token]

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

if only taihou had 20% dr vs all arcing

instead of he only

would be a good double cv pick

alas

[ripe latch]

double cv its really meme on triple bb meta

[sterile bluff]

is pretty stronk tho

but i don't have

no lumbering tiddies for me

[ripe latch]

use qe kek

and w8 retro

roll akagi chan

she still good

if survive first ws kai salvo

[sterile bluff]

i have akagi chan

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

but she ain't gonna survive shit

imagine if i lose to this

that's how bad I am

sword 457 and d30 fdg coming soon™️

[ripe latch]

see how enemy proc v

b

[sterile bluff]

as usual enty is gonna full proc

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

jb is gonna hit all my frontlines

malin is gonna make their vg dodge all ws salvos

just a normal day for me in pvp

[vague token]

rich/formi/cv is pretty strong

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

no need to waste dps with jean xD

[sterile bluff]

i think u mean ws/formi/centaur

[vague token]

i dont have 457

[sterile bluff]

progress?

i'm 36/50

[vague token]

40/50

[sterile bluff]

i don't even do Q

only Hs

and D

[ripe latch]

0 prints, 3 weaks

[sterile bluff]

what's ur fdg at?

[vague token]

dev 24, not even close to relevant

[sterile bluff]

d20 for me

the Hs aren't dropping shit

[ripe latch]

why u rushing fdg if she die vs enemy trp team

[sterile bluff]

cuz i like black haired women with big tits

but tbf ws also dies against trp team

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

ill prolly lose to this ngl

idk why

imagine raising izumo to d30

[vague token]

supposedly she's getting a buff though

inb4 izumo meta

[sterile bluff]

actually?

confirmed?

[ripe latch]

without fate food

[sterile bluff]

inb4 izumo gets trp resistance

[vague token]

i dont think they'd pass alabama's passive to her

wouldnt even be a buff