pvp

[empty grove]

This is why I have an emote channel on my server

[vague token]

today<--

[ebon schooner]

i provided

[vague token]

[ebon schooner]

the emote

you shit

😡

[empty grove]

Which emote cunt

[ebon schooner]

valknaruhodo

[empty grove]

Boi

[ebon schooner]

😡

ill just ask shivers then

actually he proabbly wont do anything

about it

[empty grove]

I mean

The nitro ran out

So i'd need to clear out like 20 emotes before it'd register

[ebon schooner]

sigh

[empty grove]

[ebon schooner]

useless

[empty grove]

[ebon schooner]

disgusting

[empty grove]

Boost the server

[ebon schooner]

lul, you would add that

[empty grove]

Stop being a casual

The emote is on like 3 of my FGO servers

[ebon schooner]

it can be on one more server

[empty grove]

It can if you boost it

[ebon schooner]

yea

not happening

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/735829208273518704.gif?v=1

[shy hazel]

[sterile bluff]

fk it im not copying that emote onto my server

cuz LOL effort

[shy hazel]

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

low effort memes are the best

especially for jesus

[shy hazel]

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

i dont even see what was pinned

[ripe latch]

its gameplay-help #2

[dull ledge]

so u get bonus +1 points if your opponent 35 points higher than you?

[dull ledge]

whats the max bonus points u can get?

or does it keep going on with the bonus points?

[shy hazel]

generally

1 point for every 35pts starting day 5

starting points are kind of diff

its much more higher

so if u want early lead

sandbag early

[ripe latch]

peco training new sandbangers

🥩

[shy hazel]

[next olive]

triple 406mm mk6 or proto 410mm mounted for richelieu?

[shy hazel]

not both

wait

oh

twin 406mm

the pr ones

is the best one

@next olive

[next olive]

yellow

[shy hazel]

if you need more pvp spec gears the ones in the pin should be complete

[next olive]

i think the proto is better

pretty much same damage

ap for backliners

20 extra fp

[shy hazel]

triple 410?

no

ap mechanic is weird

it doesnt actually do much better than he

and rich skill needs he

at least for pvp

that he crit is a big thing

if it hits

another reason is i guess

rich has v good barrage vs frontliners

twin 406 has much shorter reload

so you potentially do more dmg

@ionic magnet

why is triple 410mm listed as green again

shouldnt it be orange

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

where

[shy hazel]

in the tier list

oh i mean triple 381

wasnt triple 381 ap

[ionic magnet]

its HE

[shy hazel]

oh

i guess i was confused when i took a look

[ionic magnet]

its for higher preload dmg i think?

faster than 406

[shy hazel]

i was looking at 410 prototype which was ap

[ionic magnet]

[ripe latch]

[somber axle]

I'm 3-4 points behind, people on my list just won't move.

Might have to wait longer

[elder crane]

Proto 381 HE on Richi?

The main reason I used that on her was cause JB timings

non-HPFCR, it loads faster than HPFCR quad 380 on JB

Having richi fire then JB right after I find gives best vanguard deletion chance

Other than that though, no reason to use it over mk6

Less fire damage, less gun damage, for a minimal buff on Barrage shell damage and a tiny bit faster to load

[sour oasis]

[ripe latch]

noshiro on right

[sterile bluff]

Kanzaki never retroed his hiryuu?

True pogger

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

triple 381 on rich syncs with formidable with dive cuda

is the other thing

triple 406 will be kinda late

[elder crane]

Oh, AP Cuda
Not sure why you wouldn't run a proper DB on Formi with Richi though

[vague token]

cause im using 2 cvs

since rich is vg focused, she can still clear vg with just time stop

otherwise if she aims main

double crash

hits like a truck

plus the tiny chance of armor break before her gun hits them xD

on the 2nd mgm

[elder crane]

Not sure how you sync other CV to formi if you run AP Cuda
Does AP cuda even hit before second mount anyways?

[vague token]

i use 2 cudas

xD

hiryuu double cuda

;))))

bomb damage

[elder crane]

Meh, I'd rather run Hiryuu to join the vanguard gangbang w at least proper bombs

Also no ryuus on Hiryuu

[vague token]

i prefer not having to worry about dice rolls on main since that's where the beeg damage is

no evade check ;)

although usually hiryuu doesnt do much

she's more of just the back up

[elder crane]

Ryuus still finish off much better than crash dmg
And rng isn't an issue with 9 hits

Ryuu hiryuu with 2 strikes should be able to finish off a main fleet with <1/2 HP left

With cuda suicide damage, glhf

[vague token]

it lets me push more damage if i get fc forced early

which usually happens against fdg/ws since i have no amagi for evade

[karmic forum]

The new plane seems like the new BiS for fighters

[elder crane]

Run Hiryuu defensively and it's not an issue

Yep

[vague token]

she's double evasion

it's still an issue

xD

[karmic forum]

Unless using reppu to bait AA still matters somehow

[elder crane]

Idk, at most you just have FdG barrage shooting at Hiryuu

+random shells

[karmic forum]

nvm its the same speed as the reppu

[vague token]

if warspite is on the field fc can easily be forced on the first set of shots with 457 and amagi + nagato barrage

[elder crane]

???

[vague token]

457

[elder crane]

You don't tank that w Hiryuu

I've actually changed to tanking that w Formi

[vague token]

i mean, im not tanking it with formidable

there's a decent chance she just straight up dies after 1 launch

[elder crane]

She just needs to get off first strike, who cares about rest

[vague token]

meeee

[karmic forum]

I generally avoid putting hiryuu in the line of warspite

[elder crane]

I'd rather have a Ryuus hiryuu final counter uncontested than a Formi
Or a JB

[vague token]

i dont like relying on FC

it's more for if i forget to pay attention

xD

[elder crane]

Then why run hiryuu

[karmic forum]

Even with a max defensive setup (VH + Rudder) its too risky

[elder crane]

The only reason to run her is for FC

Literally no point if you're not abusing it

[vague token]

to avoid getting front loaded damage bursted

that's what

fdg critting for 5k is

warspite 457 also

[elder crane]

Though I'll have to say

[karmic forum]

Most of the time when you lose with hiryuu its because her fc proc'd when enemy vanguard is alive

[elder crane]

Without enough defensive options

Formi can die to Warkai+stuff before she even launches kekw

[vague token]

yeah

ive had that happen a bit

base hp is just too low

[elder crane]

I've actually swapped to ykkz instead of jun for that reason

Juneau just doesn't die fast enough

[vague token]

yeah

[karmic forum]

Azuma/Sirius/Ykkz?

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

Sirius leads ofc

With pearl

And bulge

I've been experimenting with VH Azuma too

[karmic forum]

I always wanted to try formi comps but I refused to oath centaur

[vague token]

i havent moved armor off of her for a while

xD

[ripe latch]

sirius lead

[elder crane]

It's, meh, need to face more real teams

Torps and Enty have been though

[vague token]

i went back to azuma/noshiro, it's been more reliable for me

with juneau on Off Tank because it catches more shells

[elder crane]

I'm running her w VH SG right now

Jun off tank is fucking immortal half the time

[vague token]

because triple bb has problems if nagato doesnt barrage

na, off tank catches more shells cause they're last to turn

against cv though

big oof

[elder crane]

I've literally had 4/6 ships die before her

Vs a BB team

[vague token]

xD

[karmic forum]

You could just swap juneau to main tank if you're against one of those comps

[vague token]

if you put juneau lead

it's big gamble on nagato deleting her before healing anyone

[elder crane]

Except it's literally just standard comps

[vague token]

juneau is reee

[elder crane]

Nagato is like, the biggest issue w juneau right now imo

[karmic forum]

Although its true

A lot of the times juneau just doesn't die

[elder crane]

Lead and Nagato proc? Lol no heal for you
Not lead and no nagato proc? Fucking immortal

[vague token]

the only consistent use for juneau lead

is torps

cause then you eat torps 100%

and then die to first barrage

xD

but sometimes she dies anyways

on first torp

gamble fun times

🎲

[elder crane]

Yeah, she's good torp protection tbf, but I'm using sirius for that instead

Sirius sinking first if torps land

[vague token]

i should try azuma/noshiro/ykkz probably

[elder crane]

Anyways, if your main fleet isn't tanky enough, jun is pepega af

[vague token]

that might work better

[karmic forum]

Its been floated around for a while

[elder crane]

You need Amagi esp for Jun to actually properly get heals in

[karmic forum]

I'd try it but I don't want to oath Noshiro

[elder crane]

I've run it, it's okay I suppose

[vague token]

if i run azuma/nosh/ykkz i can ditch gyro on azuma

since ykkz will boost vg speed

[elder crane]

Literally no point in richi anymore though, really

Or formi

[vague token]

kek

hiryuu and 3 vg vs the world

[ripe latch]

put sirius on right and she not die

[vague token]

;))))

[elder crane]

You don't need sirus alive

That's her biggest advantage over aurora

Can run her as sacrificial lead ship

[ripe latch]

free food ship on vg

[vague token]

im still getting ibuki ready for that german torp aux

[karmic forum]

So you can run 610 or something?

[vague token]

yeah

xD

[elder crane]

It makes first launch mags

[vague token]

ws/torp comp

[elder crane]

Meme, but not very useful

Ibuki only has 1 preload converted

[karmic forum]

Second launch still gonna be the regular 610 pattern

[vague token]

that's ok

[karmic forum]

It was more interesting when it was bugged

[vague token]

im curious how the tracking works with the high speed

on 610

[elder crane]

And your 20 s torps won't be mags anymore

[vague token]

or does it downgrade the speed

cause if the tracking matches the speed

gg

you dont miss

[elder crane]

It downgrades to standard mag speeds, no?

[vague token]

i dunno

[elder crane]

You keep the 10 extra range though

[vague token]

im not sure if it gives the magnetic trait

but keeps all other properties

[karmic forum]

From what i've seen they torps are really close together

Not spread out like magtorps

But that was the bugged version

[vague token]

will have to wait and see

[elder crane]

Full conversion then probably

Only way that makes sense

[vague token]

if it's full conversion ill probably pass

i was hoping it would just add mag to the base torp

so you have light speed mag 610s

one time

which would be fun

[elder crane]

Hey @zenith tundra what do you know about the new magtorp aux with 610s? Does it keep the speed/range?

[zenith tundra]

i still don't have it

[vague token]

no rush

[elder crane]

Can you tell us when you get it?

[zenith tundra]

i'm close like dailies should be enough for the pts

[elder crane]

Ty~

[ripe latch]

what torps?

[zenith tundra]

i'm also curious about the dmg boost if it's only once or permanent

[vague token]

new aux from event

[elder crane]

We'll get it in like 2 weeksish, probably

[vague token]

maybe it's on wiki

[elder crane]

It's on wiki

But idk what you're looking for there

[vague token]

detailed description

i dunno what i expected

[ripe latch]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/鱼雷

[elder crane]

Wording suggests to me that damage boost is only first launch

Who knows though

[zenith tundra]

i did some math on it and without the dmg boost overall shouldn't be better then 2 oxy on ibuki

[elder crane]

Well, for PvP, you'll want higher opponent luck/eva

[vague token]

oh, yeah there's no doubt about that

[elder crane]

Well, for vanguard at least

[vague token]

the main question is how it works mechanically is all

[ripe latch]

1 oxy enough

[zenith tundra]

that was vs taihou

[vague token]

does it convert without changing raw stats

i just want full speed mags

ok

xD

gotta go faaaaast

[elder crane]

Sea mines give better hitrate anyways though

[vague token]

kek

[elder crane]

Main thing I'm interested in is range

[ripe latch]

why ibuki need oxy if double boiler better

[vague token]

yeah the range boost could help offensive torps

[karmic forum]

I wonder if the aux will change the pattern of the rainbow mags

[zenith tundra]

so what 3x 610? with each ship using the black?

[elder crane]

Anyways, that's part of why IJN subs are good

[vague token]

i mean, we only get 1 of the aux

[elder crane]

It's farm able

[zenith tundra]

u can farm d1 for it

[karmic forum]

Its farmable

[vague token]

unless

oh

oh god

bp farming

[karmic forum]

Probably worth farming 2 of them from D1

[elder crane]

D1, I want 6 total tyvm

[karmic forum]

6 seems a bit much

[elder crane]

For subs and for vanguard

[karmic forum]

Oh subs

Hadn't even considered that

[elder crane]

Anyways, time to prep grinding

Got my mail oil ready

[vague token]

whelp this event is gonna suck

[karmic forum]

I'll wait for the verdict before dedicating my time to farming

[elder crane]

Gonna need all the mail coin too cause I want 2 perseus and maybe 2 Howe

[karmic forum]

Why stop at 2 perseus

[elder crane]

It's 100% going to be useful for subs unless it literally doesn't work

[karmic forum]

Get 4 for the eventual guild update

[elder crane]

Why 4

[karmic forum]

[vague token]

inb4 only works on the first torp

[karmic forum]

4 fleets content

[elder crane]

Do you even want a healer then though?

[ripe latch]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/533mm磁性鱼雷T3

[elder crane]

You only need healer when a fleet does mutiple fights

[ripe latch]

Pre-installed magnetic torpedo: After being equipped, the ammunition fired by the torpedo weapon for the first time in battle is replaced with a magnetic torpedo, and the damage caused by the torpedo of the round is increased by 5%

[zenith tundra]

speed is lower when mag and it does seem to be 1 time only boost

[ripe latch]

what a meme eqiup

[elder crane]

What about range?

Can you pop into PvP quickly and compare?

Afaik no good way to test vanguard torp range in PvE

[ripe latch]

imagine if u equip that trash and go vs noshi comp to see white text
miss miss miss

[zenith tundra]

dmg wise it goes from 1715 to 1640 from 1st wave to others

[ripe latch]

but why thiss need to be tested , if one salvo trp with that hit only juneau , she die and second salvo vs azuma eva not hit . add noshi and that aux usless

[vague token]

whelp, my interest is diminished

[zenith tundra]

range is also lower it seems when turned mag

[vague token]

i was hoping the speed wouldnt be nerfed

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

is the speed and range related for torps?

[shell heron]

Fast homing 610mm torps

[vague token]

or if you magically have more speed, would they still run out at the same distance?

[shell heron]

[vague token]

yeh

i wanted that

but rip

no fun allowed

[ripe latch]

any idea why azuma can use this

[zenith tundra]

1st non mag

2nd mag

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

so basically, useless

pve only bench

i mean

xD

[zenith tundra]

what use does it even have in pve? sirens?

[vague token]

subs

[ripe latch]

maybe that trash for ironblood ships to make trp team

[zenith tundra]

can't be equipped on subs...

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

oh

all right never mind

literally garbage

ill go cry in the corner

[zenith tundra]

i can put it on azuma but not subs

sounds like a good choice

whatever. bad equip

[ripe latch]

4,3k trp crit

double sg

[vague token]

wait can we put it on odin

xD

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

god dammit

[ripe latch]

carry odin

bc no

f

[elder crane]

wait, can't be used on subs?

ugh, just EX/CM material then I suppose

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

and not on Ibuki either

maybe it'll favor non-Ibuki for EX

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra what heal in perseus? as like uni?

[zenith tundra]

idk why they would make it so it doesn't work on subs. makes like no sense

[vague token]

i mean, being usable on large cruiser

also makes 0 sense

[zenith tundra]

u have to rephrase that because idk what u are asking @ripe latch

[vague token]

there will never be a large cruiser with torps because they were mostly made by eagles

[elder crane]

they just made it work on all VG I suppose

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Perseus
战斗开始时，将直接完成1 (2)次空中支援加载，自身舰载机的空中支援加载所需时间增加90%；自身每次执行空袭后，为先锋部队回复1.5% (7.0%)耐久，为主力部队回复1.0% (3.5%)耐久

[vague token]

who were probably gunboats

cough alaska when

[elder crane]

Maybe Z-plan

and if there's any PR german or another IJN CB, might have torps

[zenith tundra]

i know perseus but idk what u want to know about the heal

[vague token]

i mean, that's still like years off

so

[ripe latch]

heal as like unicorn? hp?

[vague token]

xD

it's a non-factor

[elder crane]

just read EN wiki if you can't understand it

[ripe latch]

en translate degen

[zenith tundra]

are the other types of heal that don't actually heal?

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

it's % of target HP, yes

not % of own

[ripe latch]

ok ty

[elder crane]

just read the EN wiki smh

[ripe latch]

they not translate

[vague token]

yeah it still has characters on en because copy paste i guess

xD

[zenith tundra]

it's not en in en wiki

[elder crane]

oh lol

[vague token]

just EN Wiki Things

you know how it is

[elder crane]

I suppose "read the EN translation for datamine" then

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

anyways, our second premium healer

[zenith tundra]

yeah it's % of target so lb0 perseus heal as much as mlb perseus

[elder crane]

this time more strictly better than the nonevent options

even more so than 0lb uni/shouhou even, since 2 preloaded strikes
healing less affected by lower reload stat

[vague token]

and heals the other fleet too

so just dump an extra

xD

[ripe latch]

85% → 100% Fighters
85% → 100% Torpedo Bombers

pretty usless on pvp

[vague token]

yeah 2 preload wont make up for those stats and 90% cd penalty

lol

[zenith tundra]

none of the heal cvl are really useful anyway

[elder crane]

hmm, didn't think about that tbh

2 preload is like one standard strike's worth of damage
which isn't good enough ofc

[vague token]

well, she's cvl

it should be just normal strike worth of damage

[elder crane]

also ofc healing right off the bat is 100% useless

[vague token]

aka not enough

[ripe latch]

wtf

[vague token]

are those arcing cl guns

what is this madness

[zenith tundra]

that can hit subs

[elder crane]

6-plane CVL with 100% effs
PvP mods for CVL isn't saving that ever

[vague token]

neither is 90% cdr penalty

kek

[elder crane]

she could have 40% CDR and she still would be shit

wait did they mess up another barrage lol

or is hitting subs intentional this time

Hmm, so hermonie barrage is aimed?

[vague token]

didnt datamine use the word aimed

i forget

[ripe latch]

hm Howe get acc after proc skill for all hms ships
mmm
hms meta is back

15s cd

qe can hit every 15s

When entering the battle, its own shelling and reloading are increased by 4.5% (12.0%); when they attack with King George V, the Prince of Wales, the Duke of York, and the monarch, or there are more than 3 Royal faction characters in the team, their own shelling and air defense are extra Increase of 4.5% (12.0%)

[vague token]

you just dont use qe there

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

just use monarch/howe and a flex slot

[ripe latch]

seems on EN can be strong

[elder crane]

you'd obviously run Warkai with this
then prolly monarch

HPFCR a triple, 457 warkai, and DrH monarch for the window

or 457 Howe maybe

[ripe latch]

duke fire first , put debuff , monarch second and she last

[elder crane]

Problem is your shots go wherever

so no good

[vague token]

duke has no shelling control so yeah

if you run no warspite you need formi

[ripe latch]

its hms , fire everywhere , they no need to hit

[elder crane]

except that's just shit

[somber axle]

British are back? But I just got Nagato. 😦

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

fire everywhere: so you mean rich

[ripe latch]

she hit on center enemy

[elder crane]

there's no ship that's good for it's main gun shelling other than warkai or with warkai

[vague token]

and fdg because if it hits it evaporates everything

so it's ok

you'll land a shot eventually!

xD

because you live forever

[elder crane]

FdG is good for tankiness with that

[vague token]

yeah

[elder crane]

if she wasn't tanky, she'd be shit too

[vague token]

you'll land the shot because you dont die

or just 50/50 on first set of guns

xD

[ripe latch]

time to switch catchup for monarch

[somber axle]

I'm 120 monarch with catch up.

Time to goooo!

[elder crane]

Hmm, I wonder if you can just give up on the HMS buff, and just run her for the +20% acc boost

[vague token]

yeah you could do that

or just run 3 hms vg

jk

[elder crane]

that's a large part of why Nagato's buff is good to begin with

[ripe latch]

my ws kai +20% acc not help , she miss every shell old woman cant hit

[elder crane]

helps out FdG a lot, for example

makes her hitrate higher than a coinflip

it's just, what, 12% FP on herself, which is, ehh, sacrificable, prolly? to be able to run better(?) ships
and 12% AA which is even more whatever, probably

also 140% eff main guns bois

[ripe latch]

maybe hms can fight vs triple cv ( maybe dev think its can work)

[elder crane]

has there been any standard BBs w 140% eff yet?

Just retros, PRs, and the french, right?

usually it's 130% vs 135% eff

[somber axle]

If HMS becomes meta, they need to make Warspite sword accessible. Otherwise RIP.

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

isnt it usually, ssr has 135

the same class but purple has 130

i think?

[ripe latch]

135 on class , howe 140

[vague token]

oh they moved it up for howe

[elder crane]

well, the non-premium SSRs only have 130%

[vague token]

[elder crane]

mostly older ones

[vague token]

gotcha

meanwhile in fdg land, hmm yes mgm+2 and 160 efficiency

[elder crane]

and a few newer ones cause fuck them for some reason

Litt for example iirc

[vague token]

yeah well, pizza event

you know how it is

also only gun with a straight downside

[elder crane]

and ofc USN BB that isn't Georgia

Bismarck too

[vague token]

well, for biscuit she has the crit mods

so

it's just ok

[elder crane]

and then ofc Rossiya despite being based off the litt class iirc, has 135%

[vague token]

russia bias though

[elder crane]

Anyways, seems like gun effs powercreeped again

[vague token]

if the baguettes, pizza, and biscuit ships didnt have worse numbers

how would the royals win?

that just wouldnt make sense

[elder crane]

time to see 135% standard and 140% for special units

[vague token]

;)))))

[ripe latch]

win(get 20% acc buff)

maybe worth to make triple hms comp bb

ws kai boys

[elder crane]

maybe worth to make triple hms comp bb

[vague token]

howe/ws/fdg jk

more hit

[elder crane]

Howe with 2 of ws/Fdg/amagi basically

is it really worth 12% FP on Howe to run Monarch over any of those three?

naaaaaah

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

or run any HMS vanguard over jun/azuma/ykkz/noshiro

well, maaaybe

[vague token]

if only she buffed cv

xD

[ripe latch]

hms azuma now drake

[vague token]

matches arent long enough for drake sustain to match azuma's bulk

[elder crane]

also Drake's output compared to azuma is

[vague token]

drake's barrage is aimed though right?

[elder crane]

yep

[vague token]

i mean her class one

not her lifesteal one

[elder crane]

still
no splash on main guns, and can't range main fleet when enemy vanguard out of gun angle

oh, no

[ripe latch]

drake azuma juneau howe monarch duke

[vague token]

oh then no point

[elder crane]

only the lifesteal one

[ripe latch]

pearl on azuma

and vh

here we go

[vague token]

i mean i guess azuma doesnt technically have a "class based" barrage

it's just built into the skill

[elder crane]

is 12% FP on Howe worth losing 10% heal and 8% dred when ykkz is alive?

Maaaybe since even worse-Azuma should still be really good, probably

[vague token]

i was hoping drake could run like sanrui gun or something

to spam aimed barrages

but nope

only azuma has an aimed class based barrage

_>

[ripe latch]

pearl on duke , anyway old woman kill her

or on howe

[elder crane]

Why not run FdG instead and have a ship that lives?
or Amagi and tank with Howe herself, maybe?
or Amagi and just out-duel their WSkai

anyways, pretty sure that part of the skill for PvP is bait

until maaaaybe when Drake starts hitting higher devlv

could be useful for a newer player though

[ripe latch]

or there are more than 3 Royal faction characters in the team

[elder crane]

at least once warkai event reruns

[ripe latch]

3 hms

[sour oasis]

QE Kai when

[vague token]

Did you mean: Dido

[sour oasis]

I prefer 2B

[shell heron]

Just give her a decent barrage and I'll use her for once

[zenith tundra]

Ibuki dmg with noshiro vs azuma

vs juneau

vs yuki

seems like black oxy is only really worth vs yukikaze

[vague token]

it's like barely a boost

[zenith tundra]

seems like the it's best feature is being cheaper

for noshiro seems like a downgrade for sure

[vague token]

i mean, looking at the relative dps it isnt too bad though considering it isnt rainbow

so it's budget friendly for sure

[zenith tundra]

but also lower availability too

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

most people already have oxy maxed

so for those seems barely better

and in most cases worse

forgot to change dmg boost for only 1 preload but still pretty much the same

[sterile bluff]

how is howe lookin' for pvp?

warkai counter?

wait no

457 warkai counter?

[elder crane]

Counter?

More like a probably-suboptimal pairing, though maybe....
No barrage RNG unlike Monarch I suppose
Not that Monarch was optimal in the first place

[sterile bluff]

monarch is pretty optimal

but howe is light armor

ap won't do shit

[ionic magnet]

howe is heavy armor

she's not gonna be a counter to anything really

[vague token]

unless it's like heavy dr between 10-20 nothing counters ws

xD

[ionic magnet]

just a decent flex pick for accuracy buff

[vague token]

or a magical new ability that is like

Arcing Projectile Shield

[ionic magnet]

but nothing that can change meta

[vague token]

a shield that only blocks arcing, but not regular shots

kek

[ionic magnet]

[sterile bluff]

wait wtf howe is heavy?

datamine said light

lol mega trolled

ok yea rip wiki says heavy

[ionic magnet]

yea datamine changed it to heavy

after 30 mins or so

[sterile bluff]

damn rip, i thought light BB warkai counter was gonna be the next big meme

[elder crane]

Pair her w Warkai and one of FdG/Amagi and she prolly does fine

More consistent than Monarch at least

[sterile bluff]

but prolly does better

[elder crane]

Mmm, maybe

[sterile bluff]

as long as and exists nothing else matters

[elder crane]

I wouldn't straight-up discount howe though

[sterile bluff]

yea she's rly pretty and have big tits so i like her 🙂

[elder crane]

Accuracy buffs are very good, and she consistently hits hard paired w warkai

No more "30% monarch doesn't first barrage" and "9% monarch doesn't barrage twice" at least

And probably adds a decent % to chance of warkai smacking things

[upper sparrow]

So triple 406mk6 is BiS for richi?

dont ask me to open spreadsheet bcs my phone cant open it

[sterile bluff]

ok ill check for u lol

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

lmao they all work

[ripe latch]

jb ihr

meme equip

[elder crane]

DrH Richi in PvP?

[ebon schooner]

Richie shills in chat

Filth

[elder crane]

What the heck, ALO just disappeared for a moment on my discord app, lol
discord app as 🍝 code as AL?

[shy hazel]

maybe u hid it

[sterile bluff]

maybe u got tempbanned

[shy hazel]

ever since that french vid showed up

[ripe latch]

hm , on suruga that trash deal 600-800 dev20

[shy hazel]

ppl keep asking about french setups

[ripe latch]

now 410 test

[elder crane]

Wait what the heck lol

just mk6 lol

unless not dev 30

then why are you running FdG lol

what is with the triple 381 shilling smh

[coral wren]

Is it worth using FDG and Azuma, if theyre at dev 15? or 20?

in pvp

[ripe latch]

410 1100-1200

[shy hazel]

no

azuma d25

fdg dev30

[coral wren]

[sterile bluff]

imagine using PRs b4 d30

[coral wren]

Even if I married them both for that 10% bonus?

[shy hazel]

no effect

cos it wont just be stats

they either missing mgm or some stuff

[ripe latch]

but this better

[shy hazel]

so when will meta change

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

[sterile bluff]

when warspite gets nerfed

[shy hazel]

seems u guys got expectations for that

ho

[sterile bluff]

nah

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

gotta keep the meme going

[ripe latch]

[sterile bluff]

what's this? Warspite is teaming up with the colony that defeated her!

🇺🇸

[ripe latch]

keks go

[sterile bluff]

wfc

did they change ws chibi again?

[ripe latch]

rip

[sterile bluff]

formidable the most damaged despite being the thiccest

[ripe latch]

if put on her ihr + vh she tanky

go give him chance to win

[sterile bluff]

enty be like

essex be like "where is senpai?"

[ripe latch]

fck , they kill from one airstrike

[coral wren]

Solution: use enty

She gonna dodge all those planes

[sterile bluff]

but still takes ramming damage

[ripe latch]

-3 points

f

[sterile bluff]

logic 100

[vague token]

i only shill triple 381 on rich

;)))))

[sterile bluff]

imagine using rich

[ebon schooner]

gross

filthy richy user

[shy hazel]

i use rich

in pve

[ripe latch]

[proper sorrel]

i use juneau

in pve

[shy hazel]

you need salvation

[upper sparrow]

Juneau on w13

[proper sorrel]

poor man's sandy

[empty grove]

Using rich in PVP

Idiots

[shy hazel]

the last time i fought fam

fam was using rich

what a nub

[empty grove]

That's slander

[ripe latch]

riche
fdg

[vague token]

5k crits

[ripe latch]

3.9k crit on mommy 25 dev

[sterile bluff]

imagine fdg getting a crit with her luck

[empty grove]

If someone encounters my comp

Tell me how meme it is

[ebon schooner]

No

I don’t think I will

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/735829208273518704.gif?

[crude mortar]

meme defend fleet

amen

[ripe latch]

when ppl try u strategy

rip vg

rip twice

[past egret]

[sterile bluff]

anyone wanna contribute to this list?

[mint hornet]

I got a d30 fdg but only d25 azuma

[sterile bluff]

still counts

thx

what's ur ign?

[shy hazel]

i mean

literally everyone in eos top 20

is a sandbagger

just include everyone there

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

[crude mortar]

boomer game

amen

[mint hornet]

CZ 2128

[ripe latch]

health sleep or sandbang

[crude mortar]

healthy sleep>sandbag

amen

[mint hornet]

Just move to west coast USA for the time zone

Noon 6pm midnight

[somber axle]

I don't think 2500 merits is worth losing sleep.

Sandbagging too much work, I will probably just burn all my fights after this season.

[mint hornet]

Yea
Though a little bit of sandbagging/ just being able to beat meta comps is enough to gensui rush for the 2500 merits

[somber axle]

When to rush though?

[shy hazel]

you rush as soon as gensui time starts

if u dont want to sandbag eos

[crude mortar]

ewww filthy casual

amen

[mint hornet]

When you have enough points that at the very beginning of the reset you can do 5 battles quickly to make 2200 (or however much gensui is I'm forgetting)

It's the second Friday

Of the season usually

[elder crane]

That's the most contested rush

Let the rushers take +9, and do yours Saturday or Sunday instead once they've calmed down

[shy hazel]

he wants to stop sandbagging as fast as possible so might as well do it first reset

[elder crane]

You don't need to sandbag that day though

Just need to not take +9 and you end up ahead

Means you can sandbag a loooot less earlier too

You don't even need to be able to hit the first 2200 if you wait like this

I've done it with max being ~2160 when sandbaggers should be able to hit first 2200

[somber axle]

2200 is max rank? So should I take 9s or not?

[elder crane]

You'll have to take +9 during the rush itself

That's why a late rush works at all

The ppl rushing early eat +9 and drop off competition

[somber axle]

So I won't miss out on top rank rushing late?

[elder crane]

It's easier later since many of the rushers will rush early, eat +9, and drop down in ranking

(or stop PvP since they hit gensui already)

Just don't wait til last reset sunday, since then the end of season rankers will start filling out the top spots

[mint hornet]

You don't need to maintain the rank or anything to get the extra merits. Just need to crack top 10 and minimum 2200 points

So there's nothing to really miss out on for top ranks

[ionic magnet]

When to rush though?
@somber axle this just depends on your score really
you can check current top10 scores and see if you can beat them after using all your charges including after a reset
gotta account for other ppl rushing too so make sure you're faster than them or get a comfortable lead first

[somber axle]

Okay thanks.

[crude mortar]

WTF

THIS GUY

USING

406 ON NAGATO?

LMFAO

NAGATO HELENA

200IQ PLAYER

SG RADAR HELENA

[empty grove]

Those upside down Dogoos tho

[crude mortar]

sg radar helena with nagato

big brain

Matokuroi

i see a man of culture

why his fleet

seems week as shit

my junk fleet can beat this fleety 7-8run no lose

[ebon schooner]

you are just op

[ripe latch]

if his fleet work - they not shit

[coral wren]

406 ON NAGATO?
@crude mortar is it bad idea? the tierlist says can use it

[crude mortar]

idk I never use nagato

[coral wren]

what

im confused

someone help, is 406 on nagato bad idea or not

[shy hazel]

what 406 are you talking about

because there are 3 406s

[crude mortar]

^

[ebon schooner]

🥳

[ripe latch]

twin

[proper sorrel]

kek

[shy hazel]

usable what

twin gold

[ripe latch]

shit both

rainbow better

[shy hazel]

ppl just want it for fast barrage

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

twin 406 just gives abit more fp

[ripe latch]

|| not proc ||

[shy hazel]

dmg i mean

[coral wren]

i see

[crude mortar]

if you using at 20th all your barrage might run to rudder

[shy hazel]

the most impt aspect of nagato aside from boost

is the barrage

that has 40% proc rate

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

so u want to shoot as much as possible

pew pew

[proper sorrel]

[ripe latch]

381x3

pew pew

[coral wren]

so rainbow gun is bad idea

[crude mortar]

^

[shy hazel]

nagato with 381 what

[coral wren]

okok

[shy hazel]

rainbow gun is better for ships that dont have barrage proc

like wskai

and fdog

[shy hazel]

holy shit

i said the b word

[crude mortar]

DIE

[shy hazel]

banned later

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

🅱️ yerrage

[ebon schooner]

enjoy ban

bye bye

👋

[crude mortar]

88

[proper sorrel]

8arrage

[coral wren]

[crude mortar]

AMEN

[proper sorrel]

amen

[shy hazel]

[proper sorrel]

that juneau christ emote though

[shy hazel]

give respecc to your god

[crude mortar]

she died for yall sin

[ripe latch]

@shy hazel what about this

[shy hazel]

wtf

im not a memer

ask kiro for that

[ripe latch]

[proper sorrel]

what the hell is that

[shy hazel]

aint that jb gun

[proper sorrel]

no

[shy hazel]

[proper sorrel]

jb gun is 4

not 3

[proper sorrel]

i have never

oh

pr3?

[shy hazel]

im not researching pr3

so i wont give comment to gear i didnt use

[ripe latch]

maybe kiro spam

[shy hazel]

let beggars and whales focus on pr3

pr2 is still better rn

PlEaSe GiVe MoRe Dr 2 PrInTs or We RiOt

[ripe latch]

35 × 6 → 54 × 6
10.51s → 7.85s per volley

imagine if that hit anyone

[shy hazel]

wtf erika

u still using enty

[shy hazel]

dont u have pride

[ripe latch]

ark royal aichi and go

mommy not like trp

[shy hazel]

alot of baggers are dropping early this season

its your chance to top 10