pvp

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

LOL

thats sirrequiem

[shy hazel]

such work of art

i never see him now tho

even if u tag him

@real notch

reply or die

look at main fleet list

theres 2 tosa

edit the iris ship name

i alrdy forgot name

should update ship analysis soon

added formi and centaur to sirius synergy

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

smells like hooloo's half baked editing

[ionic magnet]

not hms = not me

[shy hazel]

k im done nitpicking

lazy to edit so laters

[empty grove]

Tosa huh

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

fam

put some footnotes in ship analysis

[empty grove]

How much do you think I test ships

[shy hazel]

i mean u use them so much

esp for azuma

shes down there

zack listed but no notes

[next olive]

is nagato, amagi and hiryuu kai the thing

that works

[ionic magnet]

yea still one of the best comps rn

[somber axle]

I don't get it, why is no one on my list moving and I only get 3 extra points today. REEEEEEEEE!

[ebon schooner]

unlucky

make a list

[mint hornet]

Would you guys take this?

Hm was a +2
Guess the answer was yea

[proper sorrel]

is it just me or that picture is a little tilted

[mint hornet]

It is

Was trying to crop but my phone didn't let me move the edges and instead controlled the corners

[proper sorrel]

did clyde say no it something?

oh

[mint hornet]

Nah no one responded before I took the fight

[sterile bluff]

was hiryuu meta b4 she got her retro? OwO

[hot creek]

Absolutely. She doesnt need her retro to be broken as fuck

they decided to give her retro anyways cause you know how it is

[zenith tundra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Yydtbk4yvJpsmzW3f1dr5z-GzXVX9gnFaZodX3o69g/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABc55lI4o*OXPTGDfFiFPe7cE0VPJdcA

preload cv are here

[crude mortar]

hms meta!

!

[zenith tundra]

perseus could be amazing outside of literally unusable on auto

[crude mortar]

副武器栏位装备主炮武器时,提升副武器栏位武器效率25.0% (45.0%),提升该主炮武器的索敌范围和射程至80,战斗中每24秒发动一次弹幕攻击;副武器栏位装备轰炸机时, 自身舰载机的第一轮空中支援加载时间缩短20.0% (50.0%)

[sterile bluff]

LMFAO preload airstrike

[sterile bluff]

it's actually happening

[zenith tundra]

well bad efficiencies and 30s+ airstrike reload for 2 preload

[sterile bluff]

30s+ rld?

rip

wait doesn't she get a cd reduction skill?

oh nvm

it's a cd increase skill

[past egret]

Overall is it good or mediocre?

[zenith tundra]

her heal looks great for pve but seems absolutely terrible to use on auto

[crude mortar]

cant read moonrune

zz

[sterile bluff]

she can't auto

[zenith tundra]

just refresh

[sterile bluff]

which is sad

[zenith tundra]

they tl all now

[sterile bluff]

but if u manual she should be insane

[crude mortar]

cvl in pvp

gg

[zenith tundra]

finally a counter to ws btw

howe has light armor

[sterile bluff]

[crude mortar]

ez rainbow gun

[zenith tundra]

her barrage doesn't even look that bad

https://streamable.com/g97ciy

[crude mortar]

but if warspite using 406

this ship just explode

but people using rainbow gun warspite on defend anyway

[zenith tundra]

eagle might be the best of the gun cv. that airstrike cd is pretty interesting and her plane barrage doesn't shoot normal torp like bearn

[sterile bluff]

lmao so can howe actually counter warkai?

[past egret]

Her spread seems very good

[crude mortar]

no

[past egret]

Shells seem like they land together

[crude mortar]

if they put he gun on defend and you use that ship tank warkai

you gonna reset 1000%

[sterile bluff]

LMFAO

imagine not using 457 on ws

[past egret]

Imagine having a 457

Lucky bastards

[sterile bluff]

35/50

but not even halfway thru fdg

[ionic magnet]

thats rng right?

1 or 2 airstrikes

[crude mortar]

maybe depend on skill level

or rng

[ionic magnet]

its not enclosed in parenthesis so i think thats rng

[shy hazel]

Preload planes

[ionic magnet]

light armor on a BB

omegalul

[shy hazel]

now u know where to put that vh armor hooloo

[crude mortar]

[ionic magnet]

nothing looks good in pvp

ill pass

[crude mortar]

use this ship to bait he

and use vh plate on top of it

[shy hazel]

[crude mortar]

vhplate+firesuppressor

200 iq

[ionic magnet]

even if you slap VH

shes only got 35 eva

so youre forced to put rudder

her barrage needs to be op

[sterile bluff]

pers's preloads aren't rng it seems

2 with sl

on the original text it said 1(2)

[zenith tundra]

in pvp she can't even heal since ships start at max hp

by 30s she's dead anyway

327 avi and 100% eff... also close to 0 dmg it seems

[ionic magnet]

could be interesting to pair with torp memes

but thats it

oh fk

missed 3 charges

distracted by patch notes

[shell heron]

[ionic magnet]

cya next season

[zenith tundra]

is there no maint in en?

[ionic magnet]

none

[shell heron]

to be fair, missing matches sound nice

I can actually get some good sleep

[ionic magnet]

[zenith tundra]

finally we have good armor break with 20s duration

[shy hazel]

do you know the pvp ship that we need next

we need one of em pve bomber ships

goes straight to backline and explodes

[ionic magnet]

howe armor became heavy

[shell heron]

imagine a light armor BB

that's some good WS bait right there

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

rip the dream

howe might actually not be that bad with ws monarch

[vague token]

oh is datamine out?

oh boi

[zenith tundra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17Yydtbk4yvJpsmzW3f1dr5z-GzXVX9gnFaZodX3o69g/htmlview?usp=sharing&pru=AAABc55lI4o*OXPTGDfFiFPe7cE0VPJdcA

[ionic magnet]

yea she looks p good now

accuracy buff

156x4 barrage dmg

is that good

[zenith tundra]

that's amagi dmg of straight bullets

nothing amazing

but she gets 24% fp with both buffs

so might not be that bad

also her barrage being 15s can actually line with monarch twin 381/406 and ws 457

[shy hazel]

i tot that ship is chinese

cos i read it as Hao

i guess Howe works

mysteries of katakana

[zenith tundra]

isn't it based on pronunciation not actual spelling?

[shy hazel]

ye so it can be anything

as long as u can read it

[zenith tundra]

[shy hazel]

howe is what

hms

[zenith tundra]

all of them are hms

full hms event

[shy hazel]

seems bad

the only good hms is a good cv

[zenith tundra]

did ws change change nationality?

[shy hazel]

hey only ws is exception

cos refit

[empty grove]

It's ok hooloo

I got 2599 with 3 down

You can still get first

[ionic magnet]

only you can do that

ill be a food this season

[shell heron]

Do I sense collusion this season?

[vague token]

cay there's always collusion

xD

[shy hazel]

do you know what i sense

i sense bullshit from hooloo

[vague token]

valiant armor break that lasts for 20s owo

is it global armor break like dive cuda?

also i find it interesting that howe actually buffs bbv

[shy hazel]

question is

does it buff ssv

[vague token]

kek

[real notch]

I have replied@shy hazel

[vague token]

maybe it's time for preload planes memes

in pvp

2 airstrikes at 0?

oh boi!

[real notch]

I'm actually surprised though I just got the notification even though you pinged me yesterday

[shy hazel]

good now u not dying

[real notch]

Also do you guys always ping me in the middle of the night

[shy hazel]

i ping whatever time

[zenith tundra]

2 preload from a cvl with 327 avi and 100% eff. looks like no dmg

[vague token]

probably

xD

[real notch]

[vague token]

i was hoping she had dive/torp

but she has fight/torp

[real notch]

i am always alive btw

[vague token]

so oof

[real notch]

I'll come back when taihou becomes the best CV in pvp

[vague token]

formi/taihou was fun

beeg crash damage strat

i dont have a 457 so i cant try it with ws properly ree

[shy hazel]

that means youll never be back

[zenith tundra]

nice they nerfed perseus already... 90% cd increase

[shy hazel]

[glad mulch]

algerie, jeanne d arc, Saint Louis.
which one should I take out to add jineau?

[shy hazel]

algerie and jean

pick your poison

[zenith tundra]

all 3 tbh once u get better ships... saint should be the last

i don't think that algerie does much but it's the same for jeanne tbh. if u want u can just swap them around and use algerie vs torp comps and jeanne vs akaga

[glad mulch]

to make clear i play france fleet

[zenith tundra]

irrelevant. azuma juneau yukikaze does better even with richelieu

[glad mulch]

and fdg & amagi for main fleet
standard meta

[zenith tundra]

why would i suggest to people meme meta?

do people in gph suggest bad gears or suggest bis equipment?

[upper sparrow]

Roleplaying

[shy hazel]

what is gph

new term

[upper sparrow]

#Gameplay-help

[zenith tundra]

it is for people that never use this discord i guess

[shy hazel]

oh

u mean

gameplay hell

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

is this shit good in pvp?

x2 1000 bomb!!!!11

[midnight heron]

and its fighter i think 😮

hax

new meta

[ionic magnet]

[upper sparrow]

Fighter with 2x1000lb bomb

[zenith tundra]

hornet 31.96 37.96 45.95
vf-17 30.38 34.18 41.78
equipped on same ship

it also has bigger splash dmg

[elder crane]

Also isn't 9.42 pretty good

Well, I called that HMS event equip is yet another gold plane

Looks like actually good this time

[zenith tundra]

it's 10.61 base

that's equipped

[elder crane]

Yeah
Still, pretty solid
Also finally a slow fighter option

[zenith tundra]

it's bis at this point tbh

the only negative it has is aa but that's not relevant for pvp

[elder crane]

Wait wait wait wait

Howe skill 1 is a bit , no?

Skill up changes the +accuracy window

15 s is too fast

[zenith tundra]

oh that yes

[karmic forum]

Too bad the plane isnt farmable

[zenith tundra]

eh for monarch or fdg (457) might not be that bad

[elder crane]

Loooool
Time to keep it at slv7 or something

[zenith tundra]

other stuff meh

[elder crane]

Nah, even those aren't that fast

Hood gun Monarch maybe

[zenith tundra]

yeah but she does buff reload too

[elder crane]

Haven't you learned yet that reload buffs aren't that good

Esp since it's additive scaling w FdG

[zenith tundra]

it will take a while to completely desync anyway

[elder crane]

That reload buff shaves ~0.5 s off load time lol (~1 s off ~17 s but ~50% uptime)

Meh

Second window is up to 38 s?

To land last gun mount in window, need to fire ~35 s or 34 s?

Okay, not that bad

Pepega for PvE though

[zenith tundra]

my monarch does 16.5s with twin 406

and i only have 4 reload from fleet tech

[elder crane]

Okay, fine for her I suppose

Howe herself can get fucked I suppose

[zenith tundra]

it shows off 2s for level so level 9 is 17 and level 8 is 19

[elder crane]

Time to level up two Howes

One slv10 one slv8

[zenith tundra]

i didn't get even 1

perseus seems good to keep 1 at lb0

[crude mortar]

zzz unfarmable

[elder crane]

Yo yo Perseus OP

0lb is too

[zenith tundra]

op but not for dmg

[elder crane]

Hermonie is as usual it seems
Yet another dido class, whatever

Idk 2 preloaded strikes sounds good to me

[zenith tundra]

and then 36s cd with 100% eff

[elder crane]

What's her barrage planes like?

Meh, at worst it's just sameish damage as other healers

[zenith tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352975182065041410/735767054140833862/unknown.png

1 of those

[elder crane]

I mean, compared to standard healers:
0 reloads: heals you a good deal even during siren murders, 2 strikes about as strong as a CV strike, no?

1/2 reload: 1 strike up over standard CVL

So isn't until 1 min in that normal healer CVL start being favored on damage

[zenith tundra]

well she does around 77% dmg compared to a 130% eff cvl

[elder crane]

The barrage makes up for it a bit, I think
It's like two ~80% eff planes, I would say

Still, .77*4=3.08>3

Also removes the initial downtime many farm fleet will have

If not running good torps or Richi

[zenith tundra]

it can actually depend on what u hit early because killing production stuff might actually be worse then having an airstrike in the middle of elites. ok the dmg seems ok till like 1m

[elder crane]

Wait wait, HMS bearn, why

Just.... Why?

Also first wave does come with elites in higher ch

[zenith tundra]

when do aa boats spawn in w13?

[elder crane]

Iirc not at the start, they take a few s?

Also, does icarus have the odin torp pattern?

Doesn't save her from being a shitty HMS DD, but somewhat interesting if she does

[zenith tundra]

she is accumulation so we need to wait it seems

there were no info in datamine

[shy hazel]

new meta fighter

[elder crane]

Huh, reppu is 60 speed, right?

[shy hazel]

wait till pr5 for it to be farmable

[elder crane]

Also are those new rainbow torps?

[zenith tundra]

they are gold

[elder crane]

Yeah same flight speed as reppu

Oh, aux equip?

What does it even do
Also +15 hit LOL

[zenith tundra]

oxy side grade at best but might be interesting on stuff like elites

[elder crane]

I suppose Ibuki might like that

[zenith tundra]

Skill: After being equipped, the ammunition fired by the torpedo weapon for the first time in the battle will be replaced with a magnetic torpedo, and the damage caused by the torpedo will be increased by 5%

[elder crane]

Isn't that quite good for PvE?

Well

For EX/CM

I suppose only affects one of Ibuki's preloads sadly

[zenith tundra]

dmg wise on her is still worse

without accounting hit

[elder crane]

Yeah but then you can run quad 610s and have mag effect

Some bosses are hard to get a proper facehug in on

Too much dakka/movement/timidity

[zenith tundra]

there is also the problem of only 1 preload would get buffed

[elder crane]

Yep, hence, idk on Ibuki

Hmm, this and, let's say 6/8 hits with quad 410
Or normal oxy and 10/10 hits with rainbow mags

Nah, mags still do better even for 7/8

[zenith tundra]

is that auto or manual? 10/10 is hard

[elder crane]

And if you land 8/8 why are you using this lol

Manual

[zenith tundra]

ok

[elder crane]

Yeah, no place for it on Ibuki I think

Though it is lower fleet power for EX I suppose

Okay, so I suppose I'll be looking for two Howe and two Perseus

Still can't get over fucking HMS bearn, lol
Just why

[zenith tundra]

why not...

[elder crane]

Literally copypasta lol

At least tweak things a bit more

[zenith tundra]

imo better copypasta. no normal torp barrage

[elder crane]

Time to have IJN Bearn next? Lol

[zenith tundra]

we need an uss one too

[elder crane]

Literally a better Bearn, no?

Minorly better stats, and you said a better barrage?

[zenith tundra]

not sure about dmg

but i'd take torp bombers over torp

[elder crane]

I mean
Torps on her are aimed, no?
Vs unaimed swordfishes (I assume)
And ofc not affected by AA

[zenith tundra]

traveling time of torp from backline tho

[elder crane]

Still better than literally unaimed torps though, probably
In the end, depends on the relative numbers I suppose

HMS bearn does have ever so slightly better base stats, is the starting point on that
So if barrages comparable, she's better

[shy hazel]

they should just release bearn retrofit

so everyone happy

[crude mortar]

is bearn so popular or what

[karmic forum]

Whats a bearn?

[shy hazel]

as far as i know its the best french backline discount ship

for farming 7-2

got planes, got guns and nice barrage

give her kai to be pvp-able

[glad trail]

I was told to go here for pvp help xd So my original question was: nagato akagi kaga + jintsuu ayanami yukikaze. How is that for a comp? Second question was what would be good frontline for nagato akagi kaga if my original suggestion isnt good

Had thoughts on somth like juneau+belfast+somth

[shy hazel]

nagato akagi kaga is + that front torp team

is okay until about rank 300+

if you are casual

its listed as tier 3 in our list

check our pvp tierlist in the pins

all info is there

if you want real pvp tryharding

[glad trail]

mhm, ok. I used to be really serious about pvp like 1 and a half years ago and competed for rank 1 for like a month or two. Now im not looking to be super serious but I like having a top tier team

[shy hazel]

stay in this channel

if u from avrora

[glad trail]

yea avrora

[shy hazel]

all top rankers is here

what is your ign

[glad trail]

Nice ^^ well as I said probs not looking to top rank again but u never know :) rn im just working my way back into the game after long break

MayBee is my ign

[shy hazel]

btw when we talk about top 1

we talking here about end of season

[glad trail]

top 1 end of season right?

[karmic forum]

2 minutes of fame

[glad trail]

I ended top 2 once and top 7 once

my two best ones but never first sadly

[shy hazel]

StellaP

ive always been top 10 since before i quit 6 months ago

[glad trail]

Was also really stressful plus no real reward so didnt feel like it anymore xd

[shy hazel]

sad life

hey sandbagging is life

youll have fun if u sandbag with us

make fun of ourselves

[glad trail]

Lol

[shy hazel]

and move if you in my list

ill tag u

now just go read up the tierlist to get updated

[glad trail]

Anyways im quite weak atm ofc since I came back like a month ago with no pr units or anything over 100... Soon clearing 13-4 at least. But after im done with that i think ima work on getting a strong pvp team.

Should get my last pve units to 120 within a week or two and then im starting the pvp grind

[shy hazel]

no one is weak when they know how to sandbag

and reset

[opaque granite]

After every reset you sandbag right?

Since there are 3 resets per day, I should sandbag at around 2nd reset, then 3rd reset go all out?

[karmic forum]

Depends on how much you want to sleep

Also no reason to go all out unless you know you're going to miss an entire reset.

[shy hazel]

i normally sleep on 1 reset

and i still get top 10

well in the past

i only get top 12 lately

tryharders increased since pandemic

[glad trail]

Uhm so, I dont have amagi or warkai, im pretty rip arent i? I quit right around when the enty +washy sodak meta came so yea... feelsbad

[karmic forum]

Your best bet is something with Richy then

[shy hazel]

just returned

doubt has rich

[glad trail]

I do have richy but i barely missed jean bart

[shy hazel]

wat

use rich then

[glad trail]

Came back right before richy event

[shy hazel]

its just sidegrade amagi

[glad trail]

oh what, no one tell me rip

so then, nagato richy hiryuu is good backline or what?

[shy hazel]

acceptable

[glad trail]

Im just spamming light build to get yukikaze atm but somth like, yukikaze juneau and sanrui for frontline then?

[karmic forum]

Seems good

[shy hazel]

well

louis or belfast dunno which is better

they feel the same

[karmic forum]

Sanrui if hes running richy

[shy hazel]

makes sense

french buff

[glad trail]

oh fair, i have belfast so ill gladly skip sanrui, but sanrui seemed like a right choive with frenchy buff

[shy hazel]

just go build sanrui

should have enuf catchup bps for tat

[glad trail]

I just managed to pr roon and am working on monarch, stop monarch get sanrui? im only 150 catchups bps in so cna easily swap to sanrui

dont currently need momarch cuz im using richy instead so seems fine

I was thinking of getting ibuki for a strong ex/challenge oneshot team tho

[shy hazel]

the meta concept now is survivability

the longer u dont die u win

torp rng is old

[glad trail]

btw how would u do positioning for the team? im guessing richy is middle correct? and then how do i positiom hyuuga/nagato? i havent used any of em, which one should i put to tank warkai for example?

also for the frontline, is juneau best used front or does she die too quickly there? idk were quite a few torp spammers back then so a lot of the time fromt juneau was bleh

also yukikaze is she middle girl? seems like she should be right? sanrui off tank? somth like that? i have no idea tho

[shy hazel]

no

richy is left or right

if u gonna use nagato

[glad trail]

Do you have a suggestion other than nagato? im open to anything tbh

[shy hazel]

ask zack maybe

im just meta slave

[elder crane]

You didn't get JB?

Also yeah, Nagato is for sure flag if you run her

Otherwise no buff and no chance for vanguard deletion

[crude jetty]

Is there a pvp guide on like what weapons to use for each shiptype?

[shell heron]

For each ship type no, but for some meta ships yes

Its in the pins

[crude jetty]

ohh! thanks!

[elder crane]

For nonmeta stuff, find a similar meta ship and start with that
There's blurbs on why the equips are selected as they are, for an idea of why

[crude jetty]

so... how do I get Jukikaze and Amagi fast now? >.<

[proper sorrel]

amagi
twin 381
triple 152mm mk 17
staag
SG Radar
high standard fire control radar

yukikaze
twin 100
rainbow quintuple homing torpedo
quad bofors (?)
ankimo/boiler
fire suppressor or another boiler

[elder crane]

usually IJN bofors or staag/hazeymeyer on ykkz
though if your fleet has 5/6 AA guns and only 1 113, 113 on ykkz is fine too

[crude jetty]

no toolbox in pvp?

[shell heron]

white shell? I still run SG on her until I get another HSFCR

[proper sorrel]

juneau
single 138.6
some kind of torpedo? (im not sure on this part)
twin 113mm aa gun (?)
boiler
boiler or pearl tears in some cases

oh my bad, i meant SG Radar,

[elder crane]

if you don't have them yet, just any gold AA is fine

magtorps for PvP always, pretty much

if you lead with her and don't run Noshiro, Jun takes torpbulge

or, like, basically the case for any vanguard

[crude jetty]

what is the setup for warspite? same as amagi?

[proper sorrel]

nah

warspite isn't a "barrager"

[elder crane]

there's nothing important linked to when her gun fires, so you take something with better DpS

if she's retro'd, her skill means she can take an AP gun (and probably optimally does so in most setups)
non-retro, just stick to the standard mk6

[proper sorrel]

twin 457 or triple 406 mk 6
triple 152mm mk 17
staag
high performance hydraulic steering gear or beaver
SG Radar

wait

[elder crane]

457 is obviously the optimal AP gun, the new PR3 triple 406 AP (champagne gun) is next best, after that, either the PR1 triple 410 AP or the littorio event triple 381 AP

[proper sorrel]

would wars prefer type 1 over sg?

[elder crane]

if she's retrofitted, you really don't want warspite to be tanking, so usually you'd run double SG

type 1 isn't bad on warkai

[proper sorrel]

iirc she has a guaranteed crit on her marksmen skill

[crude jetty]

yes she has

[elder crane]

shell skills only affect main guns

[proper sorrel]

oh

that's bs

[elder crane]

it's still not bad on her, her base accuracy is high enough that you do get a bit more average damage out of it

depends if the 15 eva is preferred or that

[crude jetty]

moar damage! (always)

[elder crane]

HPFCR is generally considered better than white shell, if you have that

yeah, more damage is good, so you want some survivability

dead things can't hurt anyone, after all

[crude mortar]

406 ap better than 457?

[elder crane]

next best

unless there's some weird threshold shenanigans going on
which probably only matter vs very specific setups anyways

[crude jetty]

can Shigure replace yukikaze at least a bit?

[elder crane]

nope
nowhere near as tanky herself

[vague token]

the older "fake" ykkz was fortune back in ye olden days

[vague token]

so, new torp aux

supposedly has a skill that converts first torp into mag

and boosts the damage

time to bring back 610mm torps

[shell heron]

time for Nanoda to become a cockroach with homing nukes

[vague token]

oh i guess ibuki wouldnt get much since only 1 preload would have it

still strong but

even 1 set of homing 610mm is scary

whelp time to put ibuki/noshiro/juneau defense

[shell heron]

I remember the old days where a stray 610mm torp hit my main fleet

[vague token]

fdg crits are stressful enough on defense

now i gotta worry about 610mm?

[crude mortar]

bag note growing

[shell heron]

Hestia is garbage food. Waited on that person many times before

[crude mortar]

this guy rusher?

wtf is rushing and still 2805

[vague token]

lul

how many points are you at

[crude mortar]

low

[vague token]

oof

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

oh yeah that's low

im 863 5/10 xD

whelp time to toss ibuki in dorm to prepare

time for algerie counter torp meta

jk

also perseus getting nerfed from 60% to 90% longer cd

rip preload memes

even though it was going to be bad

still wanted to meme

[crude mortar]

[hot creek]

kiro 863? makes me wonder if i missed a match.

[vague token]

what are you at?

im pretty sure cay is super close to me

[ripe latch]

[hot creek]

852 but then again, sandy scores are always lower

but at the same time, ive been doing 12 o clock match half asleep this season

[vague token]

im sure rng will take away my points midseason xD

[shell heron]

now I'm ahead of you. I was at 873 5/10

[vague token]

dat rng though

[sterile bluff]

LMFAO pers's cd increase god nerfed to +90%

with champy and pers pretty sure the devs r trolling at this point

[elder crane]

The cost of double preload

[sterile bluff]

so basically 14% vg heal and 7% backline heal

ehh

[vague token]

upgrade over belchan

[ebon schooner]

hestia usually moves at 3pm and 3am est

[sour oasis]

I think I'm at 850 and that's with two losses. This might be the first time I got to play all my tickets since April. whaddya mean it's still week 1?

[coral wren]

[ebon schooner]

2 losses

or you forgot to do 2 hits

[coral wren]

they said play all their tickets so i assume they actually lost 2

[ripe latch]

hm why on aurora max 1016

[midnight heron]

nice just had to reset against some shitty geared team just cuz my fleet positioning somehow affects rng

[karmic forum]

If you had to reset against it can you really call it a shitty team?

[midnight heron]

read: rng

and u can decipher most of opponent's gear by virtue of dmg dealt and skill procs

also i didnt call it a "shitty team" i called it a "shitty geared team"

[upper sparrow]

At this point maybe we can create love story about Haloist and his rng

[ionic magnet]

erika should make it his next meme

[shy hazel]

@crude mortar

where are u when we need u

[ripe latch]

fight vs hooloo

[shell heron]

999 score. If I wasn’t going to bed now. I could have waited for one more point

Not risking passing out and dropping matches

[shy hazel]

ive never experienced passing out

if u passed out cos of al you should stop sandbagging

[somber axle]

Sandbagging is hard work. I only got maybe +8 extra points today after multiple resets and waiting for people to do their runs.

[ripe latch]

+12-14

[naive dome]

what are good IJN vanguard other than Noshiro, Azuma and Yukikzae?

[shy hazel]

if u look at tierlist

ibuki

tho thats only torp memery

[coral wren]

Just use jesus

[ripe latch]

ibuki food

[upper sparrow]

That juneau emote

[coral wren]

[karmic forum]

999 is a better score to be at than 1000 tbh

Because if you get a +14 then you're on track to an easy 1061

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

i want that emote

@ionic magnet steal that emote

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

perfection

[upper sparrow]

Peco make some riot in gph

[shy hazel]

gameplay hell u mean

they worship kms for no reason

this is why help channels will always be bad

[upper sparrow]

Btw fdg dev30 with twin457 can hit like a truck if her shot isnt miss huh

[shy hazel]

yes

if she doesnt miss that is

its basically warkai dmg tier

[upper sparrow]

Its hard to meet dev30fdg/azuma on lexington kek

I just remember two person

[shy hazel]

its rare even for avrora

it will take more time what

zack dont expect ppl with answer there

they dont even understand meta mechanics

[zenith tundra]

[crude mortar]

@shy hazel I just wake up

let me read all the chat first

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[crude mortar]

@midnight heron whats your gear and your fleet?

for research purpose

[midnight heron]

will post whenever i login (which isnt anytime soon)

[crude mortar]

ok

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

[crude mortar]

rip haloist 2020-2020

[sterile bluff]

[ripe latch]

not lived - not die

[sour oasis]

I'm +50. Time to experiment if I can switch to rush and still get AotN. Ping if I'm on your lists.

[sterile bluff]

r u in sandy? lol

[midnight heron]

https://imgur.com/a/WTPnrt0

[crude mortar]

where ring?

[midnight heron]

[sterile bluff]

"imagine oathing for stats "

said gph

[crude mortar]

im still thinking how to create mem out of this

[ionic magnet]

[ionic magnet]

check haloist pvp message history

[crude mortar]

I just take a bath

already got something in my mind during the bath

[ebon schooner]

[sterile bluff]

this channel is slowly turning into a meme channel

[ebon schooner]

whos fault could that be

[sterile bluff]

not mine

[crude mortar]

@ionic magnet 1

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

pm

[crude mortar]

at this point im confused that I should make just one png picture or just video

nvm not enough content to make a vid out of it

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

@shy hazel

[upper sparrow]

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

rng god

[crude mortar]

what this guy been smoking

ROFL I FORGOT TO EQUIP RADR

@midnight heron

[upper sparrow]

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

not getting many points now, im probably like 10-20 behind cay now xD

[crude mortar]

brb maxxing hyuuga skill

I need rainbow gun

[ebon schooner]

not having max hyuuga already

[crude mortar]

[ionic magnet]

better yet just use helena

[crude mortar]

using both

and rainbow gun

gonna crit for 6k per hit

with shells

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

gotta find some low lvl shoukaku to do 13k barrage

[shy hazel]

who do you want to even boost

wskai?

[crude mortar]

yes

[shell heron]

Its been decent this season. 1124 9/10.

What are you at kiro?

[karmic forum]

1112 10/10

I had 1061 at rear Admiral just like last season

[shell heron]

Too early to celebrate. Bad gensui will ruin any lead you might have

[karmic forum]

I have half the motivation this season so I'm sure I'll fall behind

[frail orbit]

1116 9/10

Missed 1 tix koz lil bro got sick again, this time strep infection

Too busy to actually sandbag but I'd do my best anyway

To the point he got hospitalized btw
Thought it was COVID, but swab test said otherwise luckily

[upper sparrow]

1110 7/10, im barely doing sandbag bcs college stuff

[shy hazel]

[frail orbit]

No need to insult me when am so busy w/ someone in need lah stella

[shy hazel]

im not saying anything

[vague token]

im at 1098 9/10, been oofed

rng giveth, rng taketh

although i might have slept on a match xD

although that'd only put me at 1108 so

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

[rocky shadow]

How good warspite amagi monarch compare to warspite amagi enterprise?

I want to try new pvp fleet (i have nagato but im still training her)

[upper sparrow]

Warspite amagi monarch is a bit better than using enty, bcs not rely on rng that much

@rocky shadow depend on what dev lvl monarch u have tho

[rocky shadow]

Monarch Dev 30

Not fs 5 yet

[upper sparrow]

Well thats okay then

Also warkai-amagi-monarch should already on tierlist

[rocky shadow]

Oh idk about that

Is fs 5 needed for pvp?

[ripe latch]

[digital prism]

who do i add here

[coral wren]

Yukikaze

Idk

[digital prism]

have been running algerie

just for the french buff

[ripe latch]

oh , 0 bonuses

[digital prism]

???

[ripe latch]

yuki noshi

they vg dont live vs trp team

[digital prism]

dont have noshiro

[coral wren]

Yeah algerie works fine if you wanna have tanky vang

[digital prism]

algerie good against torps

[ripe latch]

[digital prism]

thats 5 torps that could be doing alot of dmg

[upper sparrow]

U should run yukikaze tho, or maybe if u are not tryhard on pvp thats okay then

Replace alg with ykkz

Yeah with that fleet it should be obvious kek

[digital prism]

hm

[coral wren]

Just run a torp meme vanguard

Ez

[ripe latch]

azuma not enough for tanky vs trp team , u think algerie better?

[digital prism]

so pretentious

[coral wren]

Yes algerie better against torps owo

[upper sparrow]

[ripe latch]

🥩

[upper sparrow]

sounds like a delicious food

[coral wren]

drink

[ripe latch]

[digital prism]

last time i ask any you assholes for help

[upper sparrow]

We are here just to help you to use the most optimal fleet u can do
If you want to doing roleplay faction comp, ask to #al-general instead of here

[shy hazel]

when u ask something

then ppl tell its bad

then u get mad because someone told u its bad

[ionic magnet]

1090 9/10

i cant even be a food this season ig

[vague token]

oh you're with me

im 1098 9/10

[digital prism]

didnt know i had to be a sweaty basement dwelling tryhard to ask "who to add to this slot" without being shit on

[upper sparrow]

Ad hominem argument, so classic

[coral wren]

Coffee

[ripe latch]

[ebon schooner]

hmm

pvp help 👉 #gameplay-help

didnt you know

everyone here are shitters

[karmic forum]

And then gameplay-help will redirect you to PvP

[ebon kraken]

[digital prism]

you assumed i had all the best ships max leveld. all i asked was what to put there, didnt ask for your shit meta shoved down my throat

[karmic forum]

@digital prism can you post your dock?

[digital prism]

dont worry about it, thanks though

[ionic magnet]

you assumed i had all the best ships max leveld. all i asked was what to put there, didnt ask for your shit meta shoved down my throat
i think youre the one who assumed ppl can read minds here without any info on what ships you have

[ebon schooner]

just go to #gameplay-help

[digital prism]

w/e man

[ebon schooner]

smh

[ionic magnet]

theyve been pretty mild tbh

[shell heron]

kiro

[ionic magnet]

real meta advise would be to dump JB and SL too

[shell heron]

just become food

[ebon schooner]

another idea is to dont play al

🥳

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Thats the best idea I've heard so far

[upper sparrow]

[ebon schooner]

yea garbage game

doesnt reward autism

🥳

[upper sparrow]

Should ppl here recommend algerie 120lv over ykkz under lv115 then

[ionic magnet]

no ppl should ask them instead if they want real advise or not

[ebon schooner]

just use w/e makes your pp happy

and reset if youre gonna lose

🥳

[ionic magnet]

or just say check pins

and go back to lurking

[ebon schooner]

fuck the pins

no one reads that

🤧

[ionic magnet]

[upper sparrow]

Im almost never read the pin so

[ionic magnet]

ppl put effort in pins you know

look at my entry

so hard to copy paste a link

[mild spruce]

speaking of pins

[ebon schooner]

nice res

[mild spruce]

are these scores the highest you can get?

[ebon schooner]

no

[mild spruce]

its from the pins

[karmic forum]

No you can get higher

[upper sparrow]

More likely a measure score

[karmic forum]

2607 is the highest score achieved on EN, JP has even higher scores

Depends largely on how many other people are playing PvP

[upper sparrow]

What is the highest score on jp?

[ionic magnet]

2613 or smth

[karmic forum]

Dunno but they often go over 2610 on their large servers

[mild spruce]

this is my first time ive tried the sandbagging method so i wanted to check if my score was okay

[ionic magnet]

ask zack

[ebon schooner]

the one problem i have with that pins is the amazing gensui and last day

[mild spruce]

at 1116 currently with 8 attacks left

[ebon schooner]

[upper sparrow]

@mild spruce thats good, im even have lower score

Im just being a food this season tho

No time for sandbag

[karmic forum]

This season seems pretty easy

[upper sparrow]

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Hoo dropped, I'm not max sandbagging

Famine apparently had a bad start

[mild spruce]

well got 1 week left i guess

[karmic forum]

So Cay should take this easily

[ionic magnet]

yea still salty on that stupid datamine

got distracted

[mild spruce]

first time for me not missing so many attacks

[ebon schooner]

@empty grove

come slut

🥳

[empty grove]

I always have a shit start

[karmic forum]

Oh he actually came

[ebon schooner]

yea

ofc he did

why wouldnt he

[empty grove]

I'm on

1122 9/10

Not my worst but still shit

[ebon schooner]

wasnt your start under 140?

[empty grove]

Nah

[ebon schooner]

oh

[empty grove]

It was 149

[ebon schooner]

shitter

[empty grove]

[ebon schooner]

i thought it was under 140

LOL

[empty grove]

Anything under 150 is shit

[karmic forum]

Can't imagine how you can go under 140

[empty grove]

That season I dropped

I had 135

It's easy to imagine when no one moves

[ebon schooner]

i went 139

[karmic forum]

Pretty bad luck to have no one move at the start

[ebon schooner]

and ended up droppinng 8

cause i was playing sinoalice

[empty grove]

[ebon schooner]

better than a hololive simp

🏃‍♂️

[empty grove]

SIMPing for Hololive gives me power

[crude mortar]

I was thinking will vtuber really gaining alot of money

then realize whale like famine exists

[ripe latch]

[ebon schooner]

isnt famine f2p?

[karmic forum]

I heard that he is one of the top F2P players

[crude mortar]

yeah

[ionic magnet]

forced 2 pay

[vague token]

kek

[ebon schooner]

wait

where that guy go

you all bullied him away

😡

toxic elitist channel

[crude mortar]

who

[empty grove]

& I am F2P

Imagine spending on a gacha

[frail orbit]

[empty grove]

I can prove it

[ebon schooner]

imgaine whaling on oil

everyday

[empty grove]

Only 9 gems

[ebon schooner]

disgusting filth

also

[empty grove]

[ebon schooner]

change the emotes

😡

🤬

[empty grove]

I don't have half of the originals saved