"Its like the spirit of Famine got distributed to the rest of the sandbaggers"
#pvp
empty grove
Nice Nitro
karmic forum
ebon schooner
ligma
empty grove
ebon schooner
oh shit nice
empty grove
Balls
ebon schooner
oh wtf
frail orbit
Lil bro got sick
ebon schooner
youre still 10/10
frail orbit
empty grove
He's gonna lose to hooloo tho
karmic forum
Wait let me get you on my list first
empty grove
If he gets shit RNG
frail orbit
Lemme handle him 1st
karmic forum
frail orbit
frail orbit
Shimarin day it seems
karmic forum
Also I'm tied with Cay right now
somber axle
Worth sandbagging if I can't beat most of you tryhard? 😡
ripe latch
dev19 fdg can survive vs ws kai 
somber axle
No thanks, I don't wanna be food. 🐔
empty grove
You don't get a choice
Some cay tier shit
Stalled into another season
While Eld laughs at his misery
shell heron
why couldn't I have been stalled by normal shit
narrow meadow
im glad to see there's still eldridge players
shell heron
like namaryuu
vague token
kek
empty grove
Get stalled by my comp
It's a big meme too
Ohh shit
You can still be stalled by crashes
Or internet dropping
shell heron
nice dev30 azuma meme
empty grove
karmic forum
Yeah thats true
karmic forum
My internet connection has been spotty recently
empty grove
Imagine having dev30 azuma
cerulean estuary
empty grove
I'll trade you this for Azuma BP
narrow meadow
that's maybe worth 4
ripe latch
empty grove
Is this worth more?
ebon schooner
no
ripe latch
kurumi w8 nimi pm
empty grove
Smh
shell heron
ripe latch
empty grove
I apparently got verbally warned
When it didn't happen
Imagine not being an FDG/Georgia/Oklahoma player
Smh
shell heron
You're in the same guild as Heccdiver. He too got warned for something stupid
empty grove
Wtf did he do
shell heron
imposter used his #trophy-room post to pretend to be him on a scripting site
ebon schooner
nice
vague token
ripe latch
karmic forum
Yeah I just rolled into Hoo
ripe latch
2593 max on washi
karmic forum
Screw that I'm not waiting till 6 mins to get a bonus
karmic forum
I already moved pass
karmic forum
Oh good I got a +1
karmic forum
One ahead of Cay one behind Hoo
ebon schooner
whats your final score gonna be?
shell heron
wait, you were ahead of me earlier 
ripe latch
ionic magnet
i got 3 matches left with 1 refresh
ionic magnet
shell heron
that sounds fun. -3 incoming
shy hazel
empty grove
Boi
shy hazel
guess im done
crude mortar
cya next season
ripe latch
@empty grove not get another warm
ebon schooner
disgutsing rule breaker
ripe latch
mod think another 
ebon schooner
feels good to never be warned
empty grove
That's entirely PVP related
shell heron
food is totally pvp related
ebon schooner
i was posting the carrot one
ripe latch
empty grove
2605
empty grove
Or 2604
ebon schooner
crude mortar
*5
empty grove
Wtf
ebon schooner
for w/e reason
crude mortar
*3
coral wren
at which dev level will fdg be better than ws
shy hazel
30
coral wren
shy hazel
shell heron
you mean when she does actual damage? 30 with 457
ebon schooner
no
shy hazel
you will learn
ebon schooner
go to gph
shy hazel
to have yourself
zenith tundra
at no current available dev level fdg is better then ws.
ebon schooner
im sure youll love it there
ionic magnet
last match pls no - 2
ripe latch
do it
hot creek
empty grove
Nice RNG
hot creek
ionic magnet
forgot to make ws tank
hot creek
bout to get the the phattest bonus bois
ripe latch
empty grove
Wtf is that
ionic magnet
cent blew up before 20s
hot creek
lmao
shell heron
oh 3/10 and I'm not forced to refresh yet
karmic forum
I haven't used a refresh and I'm about to go to 1/10
shell heron
is this a 4 2600+ season
alpine summit
no, im gonna be 2599
ionic magnet
ok ill take a +9 ig
hot creek
https://puu.sh/G8YIv/748d4f25f0.png well that was really underwhelming
ebon schooner
lul
shell heron
that is the cap
vague token
what a god
shell heron
wait you pushed already?
karmic forum
Yeah I ate a +9 because Hoo already pushed
shell heron
I'll have to settle for 3rd I guess
karmic forum
So no way of taking first
ebon schooner
are you wife?
ionic magnet
ionic magnet
5 2.6k already
alpine summit
shy hazel
crazy season
lament lichen
ionic magnet
rip sumire and rift
alpine summit
i should of just refreshed
cerulean estuary
karmic forum
Cay hurry up already
alpine summit
i was debating on waiting on cay
shell heron
I didn't need to use a refresh at all
alpine summit
but he was scaring me too much
shell heron
I was move very late
shy hazel
so phx
empty grove
HooLoo having that nagato
shy hazel
empty grove
It feels like the timeline is broken
hot creek
maybe you should finish first
shy hazel
av having a crazy season rn
ionic magnet
ill raise her next season np
ripe latch
he lvl up naga to found you again
alpine summit
sad, missed top 5
shell heron
bronze bothers me
empty grove
whole terrace
hooloo got another, huh
shy hazel
shell heron
I see you
empty grove
Nice
naive dome
How is this possible?
ionic magnet
ijn secretary meta 
empty grove
Lmao
narrow meadow
you were the 3rd one to log in
empty grove
You logged too fast
ionic magnet
LOL
alpine summit
well, i had a good run, time to miss stacks for several seasons
frail orbit
@naive domebot
mint hornet
O top 14 not bad for sandbagging to eos for the 1st time
alpine summit
see you around guys
narrow meadow
i was 4th to log in the other day
mint hornet
Usually gensui rush food
frail orbit
Me 20th keks
naive dome
Can i sandbag off thse bots?
frail orbit
Whatever
karmic forum
Remember to fill your lecture halls
shell heron
no 
shy hazel
this was a fun season
frail orbit
At least it's no covid for my lil bro
ebon schooner
yes it was
shy hazel
shell heron
because you're there
frail orbit
shell heron
time for a new season. who's ready for a dead start
ionic magnet
super lucky final day
karmic forum
Album of the final scores coming soon
shy hazel
this is my worst final reset in awhile
lament lichen
why memorize when you can just get lucky
shell heron
I wake up in the middle of the night confused if my matches were finished 
cerulean estuary
a "wild" pokemon appeared
lament lichen
just wait for dst again
narrow meadow
anybody in the season-over-after-2-resets club?
empty grove
karmic forum
shy hazel
vy come and join
zenith rover
I unintentionally sandbagged and fought rank 1 dude wtf
shy hazel
shell heron
DST shenanigans was a blessing in disguise. I had actual sleep those 2 weeks
shy hazel
im not in top 10
ionic magnet
oh i forgot to tally def fleets of top 100
shell heron
ionic magnet
got too excited
empty grove
Already got the sword out
narrow meadow
ive got the list of top 100 from avrora but they're 1 hour early
karmic forum
@crude mortar gz you tied with Famine 
lament lichen
my schedule doesnt even let me sandbag correctly
karmic forum
Thats a huge accomplishment in PvP
shy hazel
im not awake one reset so my score will always be 98 besy
narrow meadow
☺️ tfw live in the timezone that EN is based around
shell heron
96 cutoff this time
ebon schooner
new season time
narrow meadow
96 2/10?
shell heron
pvp gotten more serious overtime
karmic forum
Super high
ebon schooner
time to log some shit now
karmic forum
Don't think next season will be as competitive
ebon schooner
🙃
shy hazel
it will be
shell heron
back in the days it was 85s
karmic forum
I won't be hard sandbagging
narrow meadow
this is what i like to see, all 4 of my opponents are 0/10 already
karmic forum
Ping me if you get me during gensui period next season though
lament lichen
i dont even recognize half the people ijn top 20
lament lichen
no i still play
empty grove
vague token
kek
shy hazel
oye
fam's def is a big meme
killed whole backline first
before i was able to kill ykkz
narrow meadow
when doing some fun runs with essex and enterprise after i gave up for the season during last week i killed everything but juneau
she really did her best for shikikan
narrow meadow
babby's first pvp fleet
karmic forum
If anyone wants to compare this season to last season
Scores were a lot lower last season (except for top)
ionic magnet
oh i just realised its an album
karmic forum
Yeah
ionic magnet
karmic forum
Now time to sleep
ionic magnet
empty grove
shy hazel
good emotes
i dont watch the tubers themselves
unless they teach me how to pvp better
ripe latch
bleak osprey
shy hazel
empty grove
ripe latch
elder crane
naive dome
Should i fight the ai bot?
shy hazel
hey
empty grove
naive dome
Alright thanks for the info
ripe latch
vestal compass
If i have Nagato(Flag)/FDG(Tank)/Warspite + Jeaneau/Azuma/Yukikaze, should i give my nagato 410 or 406 main gun?
hot creek
give her the fast gun
got any of these?
well, if youre talking about fdg gun vs purple 410 then use the fdg gun since its a straight upgrade from purple 410
vestal compass
Oh yeah 381. I'll use that. Wanted to say Twin 406 or Twin 381. messed up.
Thank you
opaque granite
Nagato, Hood, Unicorn / Hood, Unicorn, Soratoga, which will be better for PVP? I have Portland, London, Cleveland as my frontline..
ripe latch
dull ledge
is amagi nagato fdg better than nagato fdg warkai?
proper sorrel
why not amagi fdg warkai
dull ledge
oh so amagi fdg warkai better?
proper sorrel
pretty much kek
dull ledge
frail orbit
Thing is
Nugget is derp anyway for this day
Still gud
But 40% proc rate
Also need flag
Which means Amagi need to be on enemy Wakai focus
As far as I could attest on using Mikumo's acc (which has no FDG D30)
FDG's pretty much overrated on def, but she at least makes a better punching target than Amagi. Might be my gud RNG tho, since Mikumo's acc got Namawakai and his Nugget got gud RNG barrage
Also improved extra barrage for the slot void that's normally filled by Nagato
@elder crane @zenith tundra time to test HFC against Wamagi FDG?
ripe latch
is amagi nagato fdg better than nagato fdg warkai?
@dull ledge amagi fdg ws kai better than this 2 comps
dull ledge
Also improved extra barrage for the slot void that's normally filled by Nagato
@frail orbit
crude jetty
Nagato enty and ?? warspite as backline?
proper sorrel
sure
crude jetty
what would be optimal as vanguard then?
proper sorrel
azuma/juneau/yukikaze
proper sorrel
was kind of a joke, post your dock on a image album if you'd like
crude jetty
well... I just started last month. but I want to play this game mostly for pvp anyways
proper sorrel
oh neat
crude jetty
but I thought of Laffey for the first retrofit
ripe latch
proper sorrel
yes go for laffey first
proper sorrel
Hiryuu 3-1, 3-2, 3-3 drop
ripe latch
pve 
crude jetty
Hiryuu over warspite in pvp? <.<
proper sorrel
vanguard can be something random like pheonix/Laffey/sandy probably
proper sorrel
no mogami retro no good
ripe latch
mogami no good
upper sparrow
Hiryuu over warspite in pvp? <.<
Both of them is super good on pvp, but warkai can carry ur ass in every single comp@crude jetty
ionic magnet
3rd slot has many options but those two are not replaceable
shy hazel
you not doing pvp if u dont use both
crude jetty
It suxx I have to grind Hiryuu now =.=
shy hazel
upper sparrow
I never use hiryuu and having good time so 
shy hazel
hiryu or warkai is preference
warkai has more dmg and can snipe backline early
while hiryu gives u a big time window
and snipe ships late
i wont call it sniping i guess its more like suicide bombing
upper sparrow
warkai can carry every single comp
shy hazel
upper sparrow
But well its personal taste like peco said
proper sorrel
i use hiryuu on defense
ionic magnet
you cant be picky if you dont have amagi anyways
shy hazel
just use both 
crude jetty
what does warspite get from kai?
proper sorrel
you forgot to mention it adds even extra damage
crude jetty
lit 🔥
shy hazel
and extra skill
that gives more dmg
i mean by consensus of ppl here
warkai is still bigger dps than full d30
fdg
ripe latch
fdg30 have dps?
proper sorrel
as long as you don't mention that in gph, you're all good there
ripe latch
maybe on my server degens put on her 457 ihr + radar and see , how she die after first trp salvo on face
proper sorrel
musecogne with t457 out dps fdg dev30 apparently
ripe latch
proper sorrel
why are people into milfs
frail orbit
fdg is designed to tank your warkai
Pretty much this
proper sorrel
yes
crude jetty
fdg?
frail orbit
ionic magnet
my hiryuu can tank any damage for 15 seconds no matter how stronk
just wait til you face that toxic comp
frail orbit
just wait til you face that toxic comp
@ionic magnet wut comp tho
ionic magnet
warkai fdg amagi
frail orbit
Oh
proper sorrel
the unkillable fleet
ionic magnet
tho the one i tested earlier was famines richie warkai fdg
frail orbit
Lul
upper sparrow
@proper sorrel pvp? Or on pve?
proper sorrel
who tf uses musecogne in pvp
upper sparrow
Thats why im asking 
upper sparrow
Stalling fleet?
upper sparrow
Or suruga hiryuu fdg
frail orbit
proper sorrel
ah yes the 70% barrage
ripe latch
if u want survive comp - use amagi/fdg riche hiryuu(fdg/amagi option)
frail orbit
Surugag
As much as I liked her, still no debuff or something like that
if u want survive comp - use amagi/fdg riche hiryuu(fdg/amagi option)
@ripe latch debuff stack lel
ripe latch
mm wiki die
@ripe latch debuff stack lel
@frail orbit but this comp not enough dmg so now we can have mix - riche hiryu , and 3 main still option
and discuss about b dmg
shy hazel
frail orbit
@frail orbit but this comp not enough dmg so now we can have mix - riche hiryu , and 3 main still option
@ripe latch u dont expect enuff dmg from that as well
If u wanna dmg+stall, just use Hiryuu. Amagi should center for VG focus fire, FDG Hiryuu off flag so Wakai focus based team get so annoyed at the need of either sniping Hiryuu or FDG
shy hazel
time to get 🅱️ anned folks
ripe latch
frail orbit
Also
Hiryuu for crash dmg perhaps? Wont be enuff tho, but Amagi + FDG already covered VG kill
Also keks with B word discussion smhw
ripe latch
hiryuu on center and amagi/fdg , u comp?
frail orbit
P nice too
elder crane
I can barely find any dev30 FdGs still tho
well, not like anything else I want to do tbf
zenith tundra
@frail orbit last time i tested hfc i couldn't even win 1 match against namagi fdg. i was missing sirus at the time tho. now my sirius is around 118 so i'll try if i get the chance but fon't expect anything tbh
karmic forum
Eat now
sterile bluff
Nice offense fleet 
proper sorrel
what's theoretically the best offense fleet we can make out of only permanent ships
ripe latch
monarch fdg hiryuu yuki juneau azuma
proper sorrel
ripe latch
if u have only ocean of coubs
think only
duke hiryuu cent/wales yuki juneau bel
enty eugen options
ripe latch
only ships on build
obsidian kite
Medium armors am i right
ionic magnet
https://streamable.com/gk6rw0
forgot to share earlier
protip just ignore the background noise
anyways ended with 11 wins 4 losses
for reference this same comp went 12-3 vs famines namaryuu before and 15-0 vs trumps current namaryuu
i'd say richie warkai fdg is atleast as good as namaryuu in def, if not better
all my losses are from my backliner dying before juneau
would be nice if i can test vs amagi warkai fdg too but havent seen that comp yet
next time ill try using my own namaryuu/namaws if i dont get lazy in raising nagato
karmic forum
Oh wait maybe I'm getting it confused with another comp
I'll be trying Richy/Amagi/Warkai this season
Or maybe Richy/Hiryuu/Warkai
zenith tundra
there isn't much difference tbh. richy is more offensive while amagi is more defensive, there isn't much difference other then richy being more rng
zenith tundra
in the tl they are different tiers but idk if one is really better
both are better then namaryuu
ionic magnet
we should update the TL soon
zenith tundra
is there anything to add really outside of hpfcr on everything?
ionic magnet
and wfc should be downgraded to T0.5 now yea
wait i havent checked the tl for a while now
zenith tundra
i think the changes i want to make to temp tl are richy ws fdg from t1 to t0 and add richy amagi ws to t1
zenith tundra
it's same thing a t1 comp is same as a t0.5 in old tl
i don't use torp memes vg or noshiro variants so people have to fill those in
maybe add richy jb ws as a t2
ionic magnet
we should delete the old list now then
zenith tundra
i would want to fill vg slots on all comps. at least 1-2 suggestions for everyone
ionic magnet
alright i can only do the non nagato comps tho
ionic magnet
zenith tundra
what?
zenith tundra
yeah the pressure that comp has early is very brutal
is famine using twin 406 or mk6 on richy? u can get even more pressure with twin 406 tbh
zenith tundra
i would just use twin 406 only for more synergy for early dmg
but it doesn't do as well vs vg
zenith tundra
who is shooting?
ionic magnet
sterile bluff
it pains me to see that chibi 
sterile bluff
exactly
ripe latch
sterile bluff
zenith tundra
is it necessary to explain all equipment in description? seems a bit excessive tbh. io would just sum it up a bit @ionic magnet
ionic magnet
i just dont want ppl asking repeatedly but yea ill make it shorter
zenith tundra
anyway i think it can be moved to actual tl like this
unless someone has anything to say about tiers
vague token
i dont think we'll be shifting tiers for a while so
ionic magnet
should be fine to replace the old one then just adjust if somethings wrong
zenith tundra
to recap them:
T0: namagi fdg, namagi ws, Amagi ws fdg, richy ws fdg
T1: namaryuu, wfc, richy ws amagi
T2: namagi tosa, namagi suruga, ws qe monarch, ws monarch amagi, ws monarch cent, richy jb ws
rest irrelevant anyway
proper sorrel
is wfc wars formi centy?
zenith tundra
yeah it can be changed later but i'd rather not have a comp moved from like t1 to t3 or some other things like that
yes ws formie cent
crude mortar
zenith tundra
i added a disclaimer for that specifically.
6. The Tier List assumes that all ships are max level and max dev level. For those who don't have maxed PR2 DR ships the Legacy Tier List was made bofore PR2 DR were maxed and should refer to that.
tough dirge
0
crude mortar
crude mortar
oh yeah
ionic magnet
karmic forum
Unless hes Jp/cn
ripe latch
tough dirge
shy hazel
season reset will always be 5/10
tough dirge
which is at the daily reset
shy hazel
even if u kept extras pre season end
tough dirge
then 12h is another reset?
shy hazel
there are 3 resets
tough dirge
and after that 6h
crude mortar
how shit is my start?
shy hazel
about that ye
crude mortar
shy hazel
low erika
shy hazel
crude mortar
shy hazel
if u waited and got lucky twice
130
that means doing twice first reset and doing twice after
crude mortar
tough dirge
108 
shy hazel
you can copy cay
crude mortar
where
crude mortar
dont attack til 2nd reset?
crude mortar
tough dirge
true because I just started doing my attempts lol
last season i was close to admiral then lost bc ijn meta fleet
zenith tundra
for consistency purposes i definitely prefer 3 1st 2 2nd resets
shy hazel
ye
tough dirge
shy hazel
2nd reset rounds is big win big lose
if u lose to ijn meta
then youll never get gensui
cos its the meta for years now
crude mortar
*since forever
crude mortar
I heard old man telling me the story
shy hazel
tough dirge
yeah but hey
shy hazel
shut up young un and listen
tough dirge
got all meta ships, just not the levels
shy hazel
crude mortar
wtf is youngun
shy hazel
u
tough dirge
lol
shy hazel
crude mortar
youngun
crude mortar
shy hazel
empty grove
crude mortar
what prs
zenith tundra
she takes dmg from shelling to flag and vg as a collateral dmg
shy hazel
karmic forum
Her stronger secondary has less range
karmic forum
In PvP anyways
karmic forum
In the end her stats are too low
Azuma probably better than drake because she can't make much use out of her sustain
zenith tundra
even if her aux dmg is good u have to swap flagship for her and that alone diminishes the teams she can be in. no nagato no richy no bismarck (she's not relevant anyway)
shy hazel
drake just feels like glorified phoenix so ye
karmic forum
Not sure who wins damage wise though, probably azuma
shy hazel
drake dont have the dank bb guns
karmic forum
Does Odin have to be in flagship?
shy hazel
so automatically loses to azuma
karmic forum
I thought you can just run a normal flagship /w odin
crude mortar
zenith tundra
if she isn't ur comp is taking more dmg just because shelling that would hit flag will also hit odin as well meaning u take more dmg then u would normally take
shy hazel
kinda funny tho
how bad pr3 in pvp is to pr2
when it comes to expectations
while fdg and azuma was overhyped
karmic forum
None of them are relevant to PvP it seems
So infinitely worse than PR2
Hakuryuu probably would have been busted though
zenith tundra
i don't think drake will be that terrible in pvp. not sure if good enough to be meta but far from other ca standards
upper sparrow
Hakuryuu confirmed on pr3 soon?
zenith tundra
might as well say that the only ships viable in pvp are nagato amagi ws fdg richy, azuma juneau yukikaze
shy hazel
i dont see the reaaon for them to only release 5 new
when jpcn had 14 months to wait for it
zenith tundra
i see one very apparent tbh. pr3 was rushed
zenith tundra
just accept that pr3 has only 5 ships and move on. just like dr have no fate
shy hazel
who said
vague token
yuwan, game producer
was streaming WOWS and took questions
also another UR retro coming
kek
hot creek
more ijn buffs
zenith tundra
what's the point of buffing izumo now
frail orbit
5 is p much enuf anyway
zenith tundra
there is nothing izumo is good at tho
vague token
inb4 50% dr vs AP
frail orbit
shy hazel
profit 90% comesfrom jp
frail orbit
Why not?
frail orbit
But Anglosphere ya know
Way bigger than JP
Discounting the prevalent gacha culture in JP
frail orbit
Its not about more population
Its about more exposure
And for em
It's necessary move anyway
Tho shit still happens anyway
Since it's p much rushed for EN to actually catch up in content to CN/JP
shy hazel
thing is its 100% not the reason for them to release a 6th ship to be an en consideration
empty grove
Amagi retro when
shy hazel
frail orbit
Doubt there'd be UR retro
shy hazel
knowing how bad the devs are
zenith tundra
hope en people will start enjoying the lack of content
frail orbit
Like tbh
crude mortar
the last one appear if pr123 all clear
frail orbit
Wtf they do to the fanbase
empty grove
Also W14 is a soon™️
crude mortar
LV125!!!
frail orbit
Other than being the eye catcher
crude mortar
PVP UPDATE!!
empty grove
Tbh
crude mortar
GUILD WAR PVP
zenith tundra
i don't think w14 will be out before other stuff teased already
empty grove
Only skins make me excited on this game
shy hazel
guild war which s proving to be a trash system
crude mortar
BORROW YOUR FRIEND BOAT TO PVP
hot creek
My nep will be ready for 125 at least