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Huge dash on builds in game chat box...

So many non-Nagato popping up too.
welcome to al
Yeah. It never ceases to amaze me. No one plays builds until new event starts.
@crude mortar u rushed too ehh
Is Nagato stronk?
no 


Wats a nagato 
why don't u see for urself? 🙂
I got mixed feelings about the WK Chibi being updated. I loved the confidence she had before, now she seems... Worried, or unsure about herself? I hope they revise it again. I get they changed it to better reflect Kaede's style, but she's still confident when he drew her. So I dont get that particular change.
wait wtf it got updated?
NUUUU I LOVED HER CHIBI B4!
holy shit...
the new chibi is fucking ugly
jesus christ
Just too sad :<
its called depression

:<
Goes from sad to this? Like bruh
getting closer
w o a h
he lives
nothing unexpected really
fdg still king of the mountain
rich is surprisingly decent though
we get 1 good 🥖
Tough decisions were made (I like the Kai version much more). Can't stand perpetual sad face 

new warspite sprite is wack
warsprite
depressedspite 
stella is playing on that acc

Probably Taihou. I used Taihou on Attack before Refit of Warspite was out, even whe Hiryu already had hers.
Also HyuugaKai I guess, but that was before Refits for either Hiryuu or Warspite were out, and FDG was a thing
Suruga is an alternate to Taihou. Then you have the gamut of Rich, Enty
, PR3
, or toss in Mutsu for more dakka.
i see keripo

im kinda preferring juneau off tank now
catches shells but not too many
but still lets azuma soak nagato barrage
Juneau honorary member of whatever faction fleet shes in
i guess 
whats your servers
Mostly Av and Sandy
Nah, its more like everyone here is avrora and only like 2 people on sandy and 2 people on lexington/washington 
did u say avrora
reveals titan face

i still cant accept hooloo has nagato now
even made secretary ship

ez for you fleet 
shit

do you guys have guilds
oh is hooloo switching over
i left my guild kekwers
no
so guilds have no use
@shy hazel didnt get nagato, should i try the other tier 0 combos on the tier list you guys made
?
You still have time to get nagato lol
Who are you getting 
My nagas so far are just 120 standards
still haven’t found you yet either Niko 
any new meta changes since the last event?
when 6 of the EoS players are already top 10
Only recent change to meta is Riche being a Nagato stand in/preference to use as flag
I'm surprised that more people didn't eat a -1
there goes my first dead reset 
the one guy that can give me bonus stopped after 4 attacks
Didn’t sacrifice enough gems to akashi and the RNG gods to get infinite rushers 

was close to a +2 this reset, but my target was moving far too late
I bet 8/10 of the top 10 this reset will be the top 10 for EoS
I am not risking 4 matches in 5 minutes
Thats the correct move
I learned that after that one season when eldridge stalled me on final reset
To much sand is bad
not only made me lose r1, it also stalled me into the following season
They're not
no
Yeah but I've seen them a lot lower previously

2nd place probably is at 10/10 though
kogasa?
Unless they're sandbagging at 5/10 for some reason
I don't know anyone crazy enough to do that though
when ppl 10/10 want aotn 
avrora
you pvp head know agano bot for discord right? do you know how to compare a retrofit ship?
🔨

welp the server too busy apparently
so i slowly shift to the more quiet room for help 
i was finding a good fleet with general buff instead of in faction buff
helena retro was a fine replacement for noshiro
while noshiro skill is double edge sword
- her torp
in which way noshiro skill is a double edge sword?
Helena is more of a double edge sword with her skill lol
helena only problem is her non existent tankiness
isn't noshiro have debuff torp all vanguard as passive to trade for her evation
and when her 2nd skill pop the torp get buff back to normal
No she increases her evasion by 15% and decreases torp damage taken for the vanguard
oh damage taken

so a survivability skill
too bad people start to have Seattle gun for their back line
and the new wave of nagato
but i think helena still have good offensive skill
the damage surge may caught people off guard and not reset the run 
it's not really that good outside of ws and cv synergy. cv also aren't really used as meta comps anyway
People stack evasion as well
ur better off using someone else for hiryuu
actually i can ez kill naga warspite and amagi
mmm decr 15% trp dmg or +200hp
That depends on what they have on those boats
i have many time kill level 120 naga warspite and amagi with my naga hiryuu warspite
front line juneau hele and yuki
so I'm pretty sure they are pretty stack with gear
i wish new update you can do non reward pvp just for fun and can challenge other people
anything since free reset memes exist 
ok what if you can't reset
you can pick anyone out there not just your own available fleet
anything because pvp is a meme anyway and merit is almost useless
https://youtu.be/0LtUh8CuGr0 i just fought the what i think the best non cv meta with almost 30dev level 120 azuma
no reset needed 
lul wat is dis im watching
enemy naga dies in 1 airstrike tf
since when was dat even possible
what do you think the best meta right now, with no limitations
@midnight crest fdg amagi ws kai

literally 80% hp to 0
fdg just have the hp back her up

i don't know much about fdg skill but if you have a good front line fdg might doable
yes that's the power of helena 80% to 0 instant 
yeah but if you build a torp team you might have trouble with my backline
4-5k crits 2-3
and top 500 usual dont rock torp vanguard
top500 usual have enty
I'm very proud of my hele fleet

by post my ws position not to shot enty first
I'm not afraid tbh but more like frustrate

Are u guys have ever try nagato-amagi-enty comp?
tried when lvling her but in the end whether u win or not is still rng regardless of who u choose to combo with namagi

Is hiryuu only good because she can tank warkai or is there something more to her? cuz without souryuu I doubt her dmg is that goo
hiryuu is meta way before warkai is a thing
in simple words, shes cancer with that invul bs

hiryu meta
she also doesnt need souryuu cos her job is to clean up after enemy VG is dead
nagato is enough to buff her
hooloo may i see your attack fleet before you got nagato
yea just check the gdoc
Learned some shit from him
wfc 
||holo post bec his nagato have low mood || 
no kvg

i can only do 0.5 tier teams fudge
i just fed toilet sama earlier i feel confident


@ionic magnet u dont rush naga's lvl? 

then use her around lv 80 
Is Akaga, Nagato still relevant in PvP? What’s the best vanguard for that fleet?
I mean tier 0
Is there a good IJN fleet in the Meta now?
always 
ijn meta 
Im still curious about France meta
Imagine 3 preload BB who kill your wife at the start of battle
Still meme. It's like running torps and hoping to nuke the vanguard
you rarely see a competent fleet that's slow enough to get hit by preloaded shells
I actually see someone on youtube kill yukikaze with only jean bart & richelieu
Can i share link here?
https://youtu.be/ABWOfyfML2s
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u are free to use whatever u want
if u think that french comp is good for u just go ahead and use it
Poking fun at all of the suboptimal comps in PvP
This isn't the trophy room channel lol
Sorry my bad
no one probably has moved yet
I remember us tearing that test apart because gear choices seem questionable for vanguard
based off the fleet power number, but preloaded shells meme is a fun meme that I want to play with later
10s mgm+1 salvos 
oh did they even say anything about that wiki barrage for gascan
if it's a bug then ill probably drop her again
but if not she'd actually be decent
Are Hiryuu/Souryuu or Akaga better for PvP ?
usually you dont use souryuu
hiryuu alone has enough output because of final counter
I don't have Amagi, only Nagato unfortunately

For now I'm using Richelieu/Enterprise/Warspite as backline
you could probably do rich/hiryuu/warspite and it'll be fine
I'm leveling Saint-Louis as well, soon to be Dev30, is she a good fit with Richelieu in PvP right now ?
i mean, she benefits a lot but doesnt actually do as much as azuma still
but if you dont have azuma ready just use sanrui
I'm super far away from getting Azuma ahah
yeah then it's fine to use sanrui
I'm using Portland/Ayanami/Noshiro right now so I could definitely do better ahah
got my Aotn again

Been saving it each time i get it

Is Nagato better than Richelieu if I don't have Amagi ? Or does it just depends on the team you play
Last season there were like 40 players with 2.2k points on the leader board at this hour. That was fun.
I might just use Richelieu over Nagato if you don't have Amagi. Nagato's value get increased the more IJN she has to buff
especially Azuma and Amagi
@sterile bluff degen fleets vs zack brain
@ripe latch is my meme too hard to understand or what
its so simple

@shell heron Thanks, gonna stick to Richelieu then, I'm getting SanRui ready soon so it's gonna be fun
its so simple
@crude mortar
daily routine zack complain teaching lecture new player to meta ship
and every single time
one of these thing appear
@sterile bluff
now no need lectures , they put nagato and amagi with any vg
and think buff working

ez points
is it bug again?
oh hey, Momo moved
@magic storm
For a top-tier team on offense, Nagato is quite questionable due to just how inconsistent she is
Until you have that built though, she's good.
In terms of for weaker teams - back just after she was first released, standard HMS builds on offense had abysmal winrates vs Nakaga (~50%), and it turned out that replacing QE with Nagato in that team actually boosted winrate by leaning on Nagato barrage RNG 
Anyways, that's Nagato in a nutshell, the buff is very good for IJN, and if she barrages, she's amazing, still holds her own vs powercreep options - but when she doesn't barrage, dead weight 
Nagato-Hiryuu-Warkai should probably be competitive enough to not have too many issues vs anything, so that's what I'd rec.

@cerulean estuary hey when u wanna rush? Me got ur shit unfortunately keks
And if u asked mine now
2125 keks
warspite or amagi?
@frail orbit did you drop a match again
Asking EoS sandbaggers to rush for you probably won't work

use any by preference

No you guys evened out due to how sandbagging works
More likely for you to get bonuses
I was 24point below yoon
When you're further behind
yoon dropped a match again?
At what point?


3days ago I was 9 point below yoon
good good

You got more bonuses because more people can give you bonuses
Too much sandbeggar on my bracket keks
Yoon got less because hes further ahead
The top of the list struggles to even get +1
its tge sandbaggers fate
During the last resets prior to gensui
Meanwhile you could probably still get +2 fairly easily
If your accounts find each other I suppose
Might as well just having an insurance on liquidgold rushing
goodluck fighting yourself everytime

Keks
you wont
Meanwhile
cos if u feed one
My bracket was like what

use 20 accnts


Lul
Even if am havin 2 acc
I probably would have just taken the +1
Keks

@karmic forum seems fine to eat +1?
Especiall if the other person was Sumire Uesaka
You want to be in the range to snipe top rankers
There's liquidgold too

And some rando
If you fall too far behind you won't random into them
Its a free +1 if you do get them
wasny jayvis a rusher
And you need to be at least rank 150 to get top 10
Are you going down to 0/10 each reset?
Stella
your account stellap?

what server he play
is stellap sandbag simulator
watching pvp scores flow now
i see why hooloo has high score now
he camps out all 3 daily resets

Hooloo sometimes doesn't edge the first reset of the day
Cay pretty much always does maximum edging though
I've tried waking up to sandbag before
Doesn't work as well because I've slept through multiple alarms


I sandbag through my part time job
Would be a lot easier if you have an office job though
no pls
have fixed shifts and work performance
if u skip sleep just to sandbag
expect to get fired

speaking of part time jobs

i quit some of my part time jobs in jp
just to play a game
You lived in jp?
good days
you live in jp?
Moving back to PvP though...

Surprisingly some of them aren't
lol. tbh I dont think I'll be tryharding to my fullest extent if I play on your account since I only have one mobile device, which means Ill only be playing on emu.
buy new phone
Ill be pretty free during this period though, so we'll see.

Come experience what PvP on an active server feels like
Although I guess Sandy isn't that far behind Av
THEY SHOULD INTRODUCE GLOBAL PVP SERVER
there's been one anomaly of a season where sandy top three score was higher than avrora top three. 
Was it a recent season?
yes it was actually somewhat recent lol.
still havent broke 2600 since early 2019 tho feelsbadman
I'm betting Famine lost ticks that season
Surprisingly some of them aren't
@karmic forum this, I could attest
W/ my lil bro who's just playing AL koz
degen is in the gene i see
Still haven't broken 2600 ever
He aint weebs tho
*yet"
But thats because I've only tryharded 4 or 5 seasons
time to introduce him sao
F
What are you refreshing for?
greed
Well
Am just gonna wait for +2 anyway next reset
The chinese character guy might move
Been catching up to noobasian
Hes been on the leaderboards a few times
Don't get too greedy
i believe i not gonna eat-1
If you're at 9/10 I would start at 8 mins
Maybe 10 if you don't have an optimal fleet
yes
Without resetting?

Because if I'm about to wait for a strong fleet, I might run the fight until I'm close to winning
Pause the match and wait until you're ready to get a bonus
Basically preload the fight and let yourself win when you feel like continuing
Being able to tell when you're about to lose a fight is pretty useful
The earlier you realize its a lost fight, the more time you save
If I hit pause and retreat during a pvp fight, do I get my exercice match back ? Or is it counted as a defeat ?
Oh damn, I've been playing PvP all wrong since I started
You have infinite resets
I've been accepting my defeats like a true shikikan
Cheat the system so you can become food for the sandbaggers
Yeah I need to learn more about PvP, I still don't know why a lot of people have crap fleet sometimes, gotta read those guides
When you retreat, do you have to attack the same team or you can just take another one ?
you can attack another
Oh, so you really wanted to beat this one 
@crude mortar how much yours now?
Are you planning on rushing next reset or sandbagging until last reset?
Who?
Erika
Nice
its not hard to get top10 anyway isn't it
Erika going gung ho eh
Just make sure to rush early on last reset or else you'll miss top 10
+9+9+9+9+9 on last reset?
Just wait until you see 3-5 people who will finish above you and then start
+10 +9+9+9+9+9?

But don't wait too long or else you'll get locked out
what locked out
Theres one more reset today
Basically
Then 3 more on sat and 3 on sunday
I mean you could get locked out of gensui
Into ur shit bracket
If 10 people who sandbagged harder than you decide to end early
^
should I try get top10 after next reset
cuz I have 0 refersh now
if I rush I eat -1 1000000%
Its up to you

Just wait for a +1
As cay's table hold up
sandbeg til the end
Cay's table demonstrates that you can still have a really good EoS score with bad luck early on

But Cay's table also has an absolutely ridiculous gensui so don't expect to be getting that many bonuses during gensui rush
I remember being 8 points up on Cay's table one season before gensui and not making 2600 at the end
@crude mortar u could do it lah
Since yer NEET anyway

compliment ofc
rare breed
but you wasted the bonus pt i gave you @crude mortar
unacceptable

LOL

I'm trying my best this season, but decided to roll for aotn early
Never been this high since I always forget a stack of 5
are those merits supposed to be a flex? 
is nagato bug this week?
if yes I gonna rush last 7min
if no I gonna rush last 10min
What do you even buy with merits now
purins
Nothing we just let it stack
I just keep around 10 purins around and infinite bulins
Until I realize I have far too many

they dont move
Yeah just move

Before you lose ticks
^
inb4 Hoo has you on his list

eri cant give me bonus thats why i thought he lost tickets
Hooloo gonna went hooloo ledak mode on

Oh thats true
Lol Caylm at it again with his godlike gensuis
did he just get a +5
I MEATING

I think it might be +5 or _6
TOO GREED
lol rip eri
kek


namaryuu or 
kek
Oh look. I got r1.
Lets wait a bit to see it can become a +2
First rush reset went better than I thought. +2 early and +3 on the last 3 matches
10 minutes before reset
I never get that lucky.... Even had 2 splits of all plus 10
Those are weird looking ijn units

meanwhile my list is having a quality sleep
Second gensui is where all the action happens usually
Although this first gensui rush has been pretty active

first gensui and second gensui
if u dont get at least +4 on each
u a bad sandbagger


I don't even stick around to the end of last reset usually
this might be the first time in months that ive not missed a stack...want to see where ill land
And I rush gensui when my season can't reach 2600
wait... a 70 difference failed to give me +2
I still got 3 +1s already this reset
Someone know if Munstolfski and KKevin79 are sanbaggers?
Munst is a sandbagger
Ok~ thx
If they're bunched together, they're all baggers.
Wife is in this chat right? I wanna know what equipment they have; it's super effective.
Wife?
What? You can rush it.
NUUUUU

i got +2+2-1
cuz no refresh
next season on gensui rush I shouldn't randomly refresh on first rush
greed is good

You're ahead of cay at least
just 1 pt now i think
@sour oasis 
I'd rush to try to get more +1s
Noobasian probably used all their ticks and they are less likely to go this time

@alpine summit 
youve been bamboozled by a 457
I see filthy immigration
Aaah.
from british to weeb
Well. Let me just say.


457 is nice, if you target hiryuu and she doesnt dodge

@ionic magnet are you immigrate from british to weeb
it will proc hiryuu counter in first 10 seconds
@crude mortar wdym 
but hiryuus be dodging 
Yeah. That 457 was reaming my Amagi while my WSK wasn't doing squat to yours
anyway, my defense isnt meta, my hiryuu isnt 200 affinity


^
This only makes me want to oath my Hiryu more.
But to oath for pvp seems... Excessive.


I oath for... Love? 
because jun is better unoathed
what
unless u want a survivor jun
which is bad
jun must die



Oh, anyone know Souken (Avrora), their defense fleet is just Namagi-Hiryu.
Technically they have a vanguard, but they're naked. Their Namagi actually does chew up my vanguard while Hiryu non-stop hits my backline.
It's a better offense fleet than defense.

i see him in leaderboards


Not right now it isn't. Full 14k+
you probably caught the guy either stripping or putting things back on
Fam is on my list so they haven't quit.
@glacial sand
they?
Wait. That can happen Blue?
???
don't you guys sometimes remove equips on PvP ships for whatever reason?
you probably caught the guy in the midst of that, or putting things back on
i dont 
Yeah, but half-removed? The game updates like that?


a lot probably changed tho



























