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what is azumamaยดs gear for pvp?
Triple 310
Any gud gold DPS DD gun
Any gud gold AA gun
Gyro
Rudder
watch them add another hit aa gun
ty
Meme comp for a meme dude ๐ฎ
This wfc almost won 
Level 84 too
LOL what's that Odin positioning, new pvp meta LUL
only two oaths as well 
Belfast is a good girl 
Also, about the Odin thing. She's at least Medium armored, so she won't get wrecked by Torps as much.
That would be interesting innit, imagine having like 3x3 tiles to place your backline ships
let mains move with their speed 
backline boiler gyro meme 
that odin positioning is real? 
yes
we don't know how when and where she moves tho
her positioning could be like that from start or she could just move around...
wait did they actually go with the idea of a main that moves forward
we'll see
i said they should do that a while ago xD
she would aim fdg on sides anyway
fdg mid doesn't really change much over sides anyway
it's more interesting for vg fight
hopefully no skill like bismark
cant tell from the SS if fdg is mid or bot
but then bismarck is there so ig shes mid? but why the hell is odin at bot then
idk either. they should've shown whole screen

2 backline ships means mid and top, right
if u only use 2 yes
well yea
exactly lol
oh yeah LOL, yeah barrage sucks anyway, no cv
not like her barrage does anything

or need the cv boost in that comp
tbh i'd rather use fdg mid over bismark without kms cv
idk that ship might be actually interesting tho
arent you already done with d30 azuma fdg
the one problem would still be armor. medium sucks for pvp
for pvp i think i would finish fate 5 over doing pr3
and her hp is low says WG
i would still wait for full skills reveal to judge tho
who even uses planes on defense
i doubt the ship moving up would stop taking crash
unless they specifically code her to be immune
you say that but wfc should destroy that comp easy if only two botes are taking crash dmg
do oaths make a rlly big difference in pvp?
that we dont know
cause if you ran triple dd with max speed, them snapping behind your own main wouldnt make them take crash
how many wfc defenses tho
zero if i dont play 

hp is multiplied by 2.34 time in pvp so even the 6% oath hp is quite a boost to pvp ships. also ships rarely use fp aux so the extra dmg helps @dull ledge
i see, thanks
the worst part about biscuit
add to the pvp damage reduction
and she has tickle guns
she'll most likely have aux +1 like other kms bc
if she goes mid she has to eat nagato barrage as a medium armor ship too
oh yeah, been wondering for a long time, does nagato's center portion ๐ ฑ๏ธarrage, like, pierce?
through vanguard then backline
no
nagato barrage is he. projectiles won't pass trough units
okay, must've been placebo'd
there are a lot of projectiles focused in the middle so might still hit backlines even if part hits vg
yeah projectiles move too fast for me, ty
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ฑ๏ธ 
what is this?
So basically large cruiser mode ?
Odin does have two huge sword on her rigging and a third on her hip, why wouldn't she go melee
Everyone knows Sword > Gun
just use torp bulge ;)
bruh all these casuals hyped for pr3
not a single one of them have DRs even close to d30 and 457
lmao
i mean like
ppl who only grind prs and not dev them
lol
i try to tell them that to make one viable u need 513 bps but they r just like "oh why tf do u need to finish pr2 b4 pr3 lololol haha stupid!"
kek
People always rush friday. Its the day when aotn becomes available
We refer to that day as gensui rush.

twin 127 and bofors for mommy azuma works?
i'd do single 138.6 if possible
Some rush Friday. Usually those with +50 or less. This Friday it was twice as many (I couldn't even get to top 50) and by those with +100. They didn't need to rush.
It was like, maintenance was going to happen.
in some servers it's possible to stay in the top 10 for nearly the entire aotn period so you can cash in the sandbagging for slightly more merit

I've been here two years. This was a throwback AotN season-end.
it's pretty normal now. in fact you can remember the usual Friday rushers because they always take the easy AotN
is it realistic to d30 DRs in 4 months if u spam H-3s all day?
probably

it's just that the hard part is the whale 
at 0.5 dr prints average per H3 research, it would take 2050 H3 researches to finish them
I just realize I'm in PVP ignore lol
There was more players rushing this weekend. 
huh, i just noticed rich with triple 381 is synced to formidable with double cuda/albacore
no beacon necessary
oh right because cd starts after the last mgm
so it pushes it back just a bit
unexpected synergy
maybe i should toss aurora back in
with double stat debuffs maybe she can live to 20s
should i even attack this?
i mean you can see the difference right? xD
or you mean like waiting
cause 5/10
when did he push to 7?

yeah, it's hard to say
that was what i was thinking
you could also wait like 5 minutes after reset
see if he pushes hard
then just cash in?
or do you want to spend resets now instead of later to ensure you dont get certain names
i already attacked just for data tbh
xD
yeh
i am
it's pretty great that she is synced to formidable
get chip at the start, kill vg or heavy pressure at the 20
xD
not even dev 30 smh
Im not whale either 
@zenith tundra neeway zack, any list of sandbagger?
should ask people that play in avrora not me

I don't really play. I'm just here for chat.

Famine get all his gems from commisions 
can you turn my 1m merits into gems 
How he managed to get that high with so little to farm from, I dunno. ๐
I also had 0 minus lol
Dab on the haters
Literally, I did not use a single refresh today at all

You're 2 points short

I was wondering who's azuma is this hard
The illusive 2608
This took a while to kill btw
Hmmm
For being so underleveled but putting a good fight against 120/200 squad, I see viability here.
0 minus? Hot damn. I got -5
Algerie's Shield + Jeanne's Shields, no joke.
same also 0 minus
is it worth to wait for early ruhers?
what the actual fuck
I got an ss of the entire top 100 on av
no one else hit 2600
am I losing too much if I go to sleep right now?
ok 20s
If anyone wants to know who the sandbaggers are, most of them will be on there
nobody else should move
When to login to catch early rushers 
I'm pretty sure you were the last one Cay
Fuuuuuck.
I got screwed on gensui
sad
was 3 behind famine then dropped to 8
mango isnt there though
edwarzo moved early as well
oh

cleaner list 
too lazy to do that
exposing sandbaggers
you'll get ๐ ฑ๏ธ anned for image spam
I won't do this every season since I sleep sometimes

Change your name
๐ ฑ๏ธ arrage spam
It's a lie

r1 looks like a cheater
Its true though, I don't see Kamita or Mango anywhere
probably dropped at some point
Kamita is on the list
kamita was 23 but rushed early
Then I'm blind
will attacking the AI give bonuses?
nope
well that was useless rip
bonuses are based off score difference
how did you get those AI
botting
loser
idk
not meming with us 

LMAO
thanks zack
so cay copy me now too
Also lel
@frail orbit what's ur in game name?
Attacc
thx~
@empty grove hey shitter, feel free to move

Thanks
Getting Famine at any point in the season is bad
Was getting my lil bro getting applied to his high school kekd
@karmic forum just reset anyway
If we got Famine

getting anyone of the sandbaggers here is not good 
getting famine on list is the true pvp 
tempt him with some 457 prints phoenix
I ended the season on Famine. I call that a flex 
I guess we only got the leaderboards for av this time
I kinda want to see the barren wasteland that is Amagi PvP
you mean most people who care about pvp
nope. & i got second this season @shell heron
100%
dr fate

Bruh
I can't upload a pic


pls commit arson then
I kinda want to see the barren wasteland that is Amagi PvP
@karmic forum not that good
i need that insurance money
it reached 2.5k though..


is she even 200
heh
and you giving me your fgo account
AL has no future


you say that now

youhavenopowerherememe.jpg
come phx play 
you know, i really hate how smug that sheep is

i just want to nail it in the face with a brick

Maybe I'll play your account next season. 

get it now for free covid package
oh
i guess ill just wrap up and finish all new prs in schedule

forgot that dumb new thing will exist soon
Imagine PR3 dropping a new rainbow gun that powercreeps 457. 
Reduce spread of confetti cannon pls.
Better yet make another mandatory PvP rainbow gear so we still have to get the 457 and the new one
Like by 90% sounds fair 
Nah


theres the loading... something wording
so its just yostar being slow as usual
probably production delays
i find it funny tho
these new pr designs so uninspiring
why are al artists so obsessed with white hair
they have granma fetish
The neko is kind of interesting but at the same time, looks like she could be any random blue rarity girl 
ok rich is 120|200 now, just gotta get lena and kizuna to 120 now xD
for pvp should amagi use 406mm skc or twin 381?
Twin 381?
are you mean triple 381 tho kek
twin 381, the hood gun
I want to try something different this season
Compared to WFC,
how good or bad is warkai/amagi/hiryuu?
(pvp guide from the pins does not mention this comp)
it's not included but should be around t0.5-t1 in old tl
i haven't included it in new tl since it's a worse version of amagi ws fdg, but i might add it
should be good enough to beat most stuff consistently
Ok, thanks
I'll probably change just for the sake of trying something new
I just wanted to know if I was going to have a hard time against the best comps
wait no they aren't there
i remember there used to be a research chart in this channel pinned
like the one where it shows DR bp/h or PR bp/h and stuff like that
why would that be pinned in this channel
cuz research is extremely vital and relevant to pvp?
alec help channel has pinned spreadsheet data collected from people about pr1 and 2 if u are asking for that
yea probably that

I like taking 1 or 2 bonuses early
although I should have left my second one alone because my 3rd list is not moving
i did that most of the time and it usually puts me around 140-144
I seen 145 average so far
might be lower with last season's 137
Last season ended well. Still got 2599 EoS
would have been higher if it wasn't for shit gensui

i feel like it's been bad for you the last 3 xD
the one before I got screwed for a different reason
it's the one where I missed 3 early because passing out on my chair 
kek
In 5 tickets, that's amazing. It's like you got +9 first three tries.
147 start is good. wdym 

My start is just 139 
Whatever works
riight
respect for lvling SD all the way to 120
Took me several tries they had ijn meta crap
nagato, hiryuu, amagi, noshi, yuki and ig juneau
imagine using meta this early 
and watch drake be strong as fuck so no more azuma 
Eh. 457 doesn't kill fast enough IMHO
457 deletes enty and that's all that matters to me 
We'll have to see that heal percentage on Drake. And barrage damage
Does two 457 on WS and FdG KO a backline ship in one turn? 
Azuma is still a large cruiser class ship. which is almost a BC as a vanguard
it'll be simple enough to use azuma to soak with armor anyways
heavy armor to absorb the barrage damage so less healing
unless they make it weird
special ammo type with 125% on all armor 
but heals on PvP has never been good because it can't proc fast enough
Except Juneau
except when my Juneau says no and decides to not die
PvP ships getting tankier. This is going to be annoying.
going back to the question if WS and FdG with 457s. if they can one turn a ship.
I haven't seen my WS do more than 30% hp to any geared ships recently

but the snipe and salvo might have missed
I've been contemplating taking off HPFCR on Amagi to make her more tanky

Gotta force people into 1:30 battles
longest battle I had recently was 1:20
By people,you mean Cay & Famine? 

If I want to dragged out battles. I'll work on that FdG/Suruga/Amagi comp
low damage but the stall 
I wanna know what Cay's secret to fast battles. Though I'm pretty sure it's just Azuma and a fast emulator/phone.
I'll use FDG when I fate 5 her
im using rudder/beaver amagi now
I need a newer phone. But I would settle for 457.
I want a 457. having that on WS will make a bigger impact than a dev30 FdG
Agreed. I would actually field Warspite more against non-Hiryu squads.
i need a 3rd main fleet debuffer to go with amagi and rich xD
Was PvP bonuses always limited to +9 maximum?
we have the formula for that.
(base points x 2) -1
on the other hand. 156 start
watch this goes to waste as the rest of my season is trash

Every time you post your score, the RNG gods give you a bad reset.
ill take it
sasuga truck-kun
yea but top 1 is out of the question
Not really
ehh
If the person in first gets unlucky it's doable
Odds are against you but it's 100% possible
Why top 1 important? Isnt getting aotn is main objective?

hmm should i take on left? think 997 is at 0/10?
Also since most people that do pvp semi seriously can Crack aotn every season
id take it
I'd wait on that person like 5 minutes
If no movement then take
Some people are slow af with their pushes
hmm i now feel compelled to go for an all white hair red(ish) eyes defense fleet, does essex count? whomst else should i use?

big gamble 
salvere hasnt changed, may as well go?
what the fuck fuck this guy
lmao JB and richelieu and the torp battalion took his juneau down in 2 seconds
Yeah better to go early if no movement
Just worth waiting to make sure the person isn't 10 dumping

no juneau 
yea its me y
that's gonna be a no from me dawg
just needa reset a few times 


anybody know these names? obviously aside from right, but these guys havent moved in 3 hours
oh shet forgot to use 5 charges time to abandon ship 
jokes on u i got no ancestors
||jk||

you momotaro?
Is ibuki still meta on IJN fleet?
No
JP is getting gear stats ui update, maybe we can finally double check all the numbers in game
xD
wiki ones looked accurate from the 2 equip shown
woo!
she's still stuck as a mgm+1 gun and torp CA though
which means she's worse on that end
she'll probably hit what, 6k hp like roon?
roon also has S hp
B evade though, so like 90-100 evasion?
so yeah basically take roon's hp, saint louis evasion
better aa than all of them
problem with CA in general is the gun angle and the slow firing speed + movement
unless she got some kind of gimmick like azuma
well azuma is a cb so
something tell me she going to become another san rui

CB =/= CA
hence why i said gimmick
not going to build her first either way
odin first for me
azuma gimmick is that she target the back line
which in case you dk doesn't fucking move
azuma has larger angles because her barrage has no angle limit and her gun has more than all CA guns
her gun is like 45
atm meta are all about the back line
pr1 ca guns are 38
front line is just there to tank shit
so unless drake(?) got a gimmick like azuma
just another sanrui
why would she be a sanrui
i sure hope drake isn't one of those HE focused ships again
we need more AP in this game
want more AP in the game
AP gimmick is trash
they first need to improve the AP system first
15%(?) for armor break that not going to last till the next salvo?
they still put ayaya on trp team 
New PR = how much new PR gear? 8?
I wonder which new equipments will become meta
And if will get another UR gear 
I'm just trying ibuki out now since i just dev 30'd her. She almost always won't live past the first airstrike vs a good namaryuu no matter what gear i put on her 
Kinda disappointing tbh but probably still better than jintsuu
ill probably try juneau/ibuki/aurora once i get ibuki to 120
just don't expect it to be anything near a combination of juneau/noshiro/azuma/yuki
nothing is right now imo



why live

smug emote is smug

And I like my 5 minutes of fame. it's the only leaderboard I can get top ranks without gems
at the cost of sleep and passing out near reset sometimes 


How to counter this fleet?
use ranger and hope she procs 1000000000 times
Not even azuma dev20, Ez win 
Got two more hours.
Wanna have a nap, ya know
(See, this is why people hate meta players)
@frail orbit what ur score now?
@crude mortar 456 ftw


I start firstday 140
xD
More apologems so its fine 
share those bonus plz
is tomorrow 15 hour update to fuck all our points again?
Datamines are tonight yea?
sadly missed 3 :[
i hate the exercise system so much
go water the lawn and suddenly my season is over
5~7 should be the max to miss
because i keep fuckin missing exercises
i just absolutely love this fleet now, its so much fun
Juneau is literally a non-factor against it
if she's played front or back of vg
interesting, we were all so sure
what's the deal with free PR1?
According to jp patch notes. Pick one pr1 ship and every project completed will give that ship's bp
Max 300 total bps
that's pretty nice
i wonder if once you pick 1 ship you're locked into that 1 ship getting free bps forever
meaning that you only need 90 to fate sim ship x and you get them then try to switch to ship y
i would assume you cant
We'll find out soon. If we can picked maxed pr1 ships. I'll do it
Use it as scrap material to buy DR prints
if we cant i guess it gives me incentive to actually build neptune
You should build Neptune anyways cause she's the best girl.
dun like her v much
you can switch the selected pr1 bote anytime
well looks like i might actually get sanrui and monarch fate sims in my lifetime
i have roon at fate4
most at fate 2 only and monarch at fate 4
i have roon fate 4, monarch fate 2, sanrui fate 1
after i got ibuki to dev 30 i switched to PR2
where i have been very unlucky
Monarch/Nep are FS5 and I could do the rest as well but I'd rather save the excess prints if they update protocore shop.
did jp patch notes mention anything about PR3 weapons?
inb4 barracuda and helldiver both get buried by PR3 planes
without a cv in the pr3 i doubt we are getting a plane

fking pvp ai making all 6 bb shots land on invul hiryuu when enemy only has 2 ships left can go ๐ itself
"hey we have an enemy amagi with 1 hp and invul hiryuu lets all shoot at the invul hiryuu woo" 
how about using warspite?
cuz im lvling lady gaga
wtf is ladygaga
yea and replace amagi 

Tf is lanciau? Is that lampungnese languange kek
knnbccb
I think I knwo what it mean just now
mod wont warn you if you dont swear in english
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