pvp

[elder crane]

somehow that morphed into "cloaking field"

[vague token]

it was a made up thing anyways

xD

[elder crane]

also it wasn't conducted on Eld to begin with

[frail orbit]

Actually it was the Brits

[elder crane]

Also the original story had teleportation tacked onto it

cause wartime deception thingies

false reports of ship locations were given to public for deception reasons

• lots of similar-looking ships in a class

hence
"wait, we have pictures of that ship on the other side of country from yesterday"

[frail orbit]

And by the Brits

[elder crane]

[frail orbit]

I meant

Belfast

Have done it

Inb4 Belfast being electric meido

[vague token]

i mean where do you think she got those torp bulges

[frail orbit]

[still minnow]

to be fair, a classified government experiment with mysterious eletrical fields that fused the crew into the hull is a hell of a compelling creepypasta

[vague token]

sounds like a bad fanfic jk

[elder crane]

Belfast and her "enhancements" smh

is literally a bad fanfic

[frail orbit]

Degaussing and all keks

[elder crane]

that's probably why it "sounds" like one

[frail orbit]

Perhaps thats why

[still minnow]

what does degaussing mean

[frail orbit]

She just hacked AL

And hacking NC

To be Enty's GF

[elder crane]

basically, the magnetic field of the earth gets "trapped" slightly in the steel when you make it/work it

[still minnow]

that's metal as fuck

[frail orbit]

So that makes it more difficult

For torps n mines

[elder crane]

this causes local magnetic fluctuations, + interaction of magnetic conductivity with magnetic field

[frail orbit]

^

[elder crane]

the "magnetic detonator" takes advantage of it

degaussing is to try to fool those

[still minnow]

degaussing is the removal of the magnetic charge?

[elder crane]

sorta

[still minnow]

or just obscuring it?

[elder crane]

both

[frail orbit]

^

[elder crane]

either can work/be necessary depending on the exact application

[vague token]

during the time they couldnt completely remove it anyways

[elder crane]

for ships, usually it's easiest to just obscure it

well, "easiest"

[vague token]

it wasnt for torps as much as mines for the british

germans loved mines

cause hms has a superior navy

but why fight up front

when you can dump a million mines

[elder crane]

anyways, the solution ended up being just faking a ship magnetic signature and detonating the mines

the story behind this all is quite interesting actually, lots of weird details/coincidences

[vague token]

it also became useless later on lul

better fuze tech

[frail orbit]

Also age of missiles

[elder crane]

not really

[frail orbit]

So well

[elder crane]

the main issue is that magnetic detonators are finicky af

it's kinda fineish for mines, and if you do limited-sphere operations

[vague token]

oh i meant for the war tech level sorry

they could detect the degaussed ship adjustments

[elder crane]

oh, you mean that, yeah

that was a complete failure basically, yeah

For magnetic detonators, they're finicky af
every nation that tried to used them had major issues

USN probably had the worst issues, due to the size of the sphere of operations

Earth's magnetic field varies quite strongly over the planet on larger distance scales, so ship magnetic signatures vary strongly with it

one of the maaaaany issues the mk 14 sub torp had

basically, they worked fine on the testing grounds
but on the other side of the pacific, well, not so much

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_14_torpedo#Problems
For a, well
"fun" read
also there's a number of YT vids on the subject as well afaik

@zenith tundra
Cent with Reppu/Sea Fury/Ryuusei and Beacon/Avgas
Formi with Firefly(or was it VF-17? I think it was firefly, switch if stop timing is wrong)/Cuda/Albacore and RWG/Badge, as flag
Hiryuu with VF-17/Helldiver/Cuda and Beacon/VH
Sirius lead, with Bulge Pearl
Double boiler Jun
FE/boiler Yukikaze
I think that was the setup I ran
Not too sure on Hiryuu aux, and cent aux might be wrong too?

[zenith tundra]

i'll have to switch out avg on cent for rudder

[elder crane]

then you probs want VF-17 on Formi? not sure

[zenith tundra]

avg doesn't affect timings

[elder crane]

that might be why I have a setup with VF-17, yeah
I changed out Cent aux, but overwrote save at some point

avg does slightly affect timings for Cent

[zenith tundra]

ah yeah

[elder crane]

torps drop earlier

[zenith tundra]

i forgot that

plane speed

[elder crane]

I might have swapped to RWG on Cent and used Z-flag on Formi
though I think gamer mark is better than Z-flag, was just a bit desperate, maybe?

[zenith tundra]

there is no safe spot against namagi fdg i don't think she could work without eva

[elder crane]

I really should've recorded aux

yeah, Namagi FdG is a bit...

Not sure on if that still wipes vanguard reliably though

it was fairly close

[zenith tundra]

it's annoying that is the only event i have to farm with a dd instead of a cl for eva stat purposes

[vague token]

so mahans then X_x

[zenith tundra]

i'm 120ing my tash in 1 event... and i wanted to use her for a while

[vague token]

ah

[zenith tundra]

with shouhou backline u need a carry

but i would've preferred to use sirius instead

[elder crane]

You could use a slv3 Bishamaru for support

gives 9 240 base damage sakura torp barrage to first strike
as well as making it 8% faster to load

I'm just glad I have Zeppy prepped

[zenith tundra]

low lvl bearn work too just less room to work with

[elder crane]

I wonder if you can meme it like I'm memeing D2 Iris
1:1 fleet clears all mobs, then also boss with sub support
and then other fleet solely pads stats and ACV

[zenith tundra]

the boss hurts vg quite a bit

[elder crane]

CVL healer + something doesn't work at safe when, say, lv 115+?

[zenith tundra]

i used lvl 108 shouhou with tashken

problem usually are 3* cv

boss is imo more a problem if u don't manual with 1:1

[elder crane]

Ah, AA problems I suppose
I might use Ryuuhou+Kita, or maybe Shouhou+Seattle?

How much AA is needed?

[zenith tundra]

if u fight those even ryuuhou tashkent is enough to 3 sirens + 3 3* cv nodes

[elder crane]

Does it last long enough vs boss for subs to blow that up?

[zenith tundra]

my 117 choukai with rudder sg without proper screen clear ends up at 20-30% hp sometimes

[elder crane]

oof

[zenith tundra]

manual should be easy tho

[elder crane]

Hopefully Ryuuhou heal stronk enough then, probably, to keep Kita or Tash healthy enough to survive while subs murder boss

[zenith tundra]

it has 1 wide attack that covers screen and 1 that shoots forward that really hurt. u need the screen clear on the wide on auto since auto just runs everywhere

[elder crane]

ah, screen-wide+DD+auto=rams everything I suppose

[zenith tundra]

those yellow move slowly

so auto just collects them

[elder crane]

Maybe Uni/Shouhou+Seattle could work
That's my last hope
Or I'll just properly do it, sigh

what we do to get a sidegrade CA HE gun

[zenith tundra]

i cannot put more eva since fp req

[elder crane]

This looks like prime material to mahan pad

[zenith tundra]

georgia murders that boss btw if urs isn't 120 yet

[elder crane]

lv 109 > 100

Mine's already 120 sadly, but Tosa should suffice

130% barrage ammo mods vs medium

[zenith tundra]

mine was hitting 8.5k barrages and the boss doesn't move much

[elder crane]

Oh
sounds like Ryuusei material then

[vague token]

kek

the new event?

[elder crane]

too bad stupid FP req

can't I not bring a BB smh

[vague token]

arizona

;)

[elder crane]

it's FP req with just CV lock on main fleet for both fleets

well, one CV, one CVL

[vague token]

so ryuuhou/lusty

[elder crane]

at least they give you DD req slots for vanguard with the eva reqs

[vague token]

xD

[zenith tundra]

fp eva with cv locked lol

[elder crane]

cancerous

[vague token]

oh god

[elder crane]

I got my Zeppy ready at least

vanguard locks aren't bad

just the main fleet lock + FP req is...

[vague token]

why does zepp not have gun skill reee

why does houshou not have fp

so we could cheat

[silent ocean]

so guessing you want to have a strong enough fortune for that cvl slot?

[zenith tundra]

i would use gun dd tbh

[sterile bluff]

uhh wut r we talking about now

[finite valve]

next event farm

[karmic forum]

You can always use boss fleet to pad

Hopefully a CVL can reasonably solo mobs without getting rekt

[finite valve]

like uni or shouhou?

and add in another BB and call it done

[zenith tundra]

u can 1:1 shouhou uni if u have good vg or ryuuhou can keep everyone alive anyway

[past egret]

What is the best way to power level ships to 120 to make them pvp worthy?

[zenith tundra]

farming?

[meager dawn]

just sortie

[zenith tundra]

12-4 is what people use to farm levels for fleets usually

[midnight heron]

use them in pvp pre120

[zenith tundra]

i use events to level up ships

[past egret]

Thanks

[shell heron]

If the early resets go really poorly. I might take a break this season and casually sandbag

[zenith tundra]

my 3rd reset is more dead then then 2nd one

[sterile bluff]

ok so is next even 1 CV or CVL?

or do I have to use CVL

[zenith tundra]

cvl

[ebon schooner]

fp but cvl requirement

ffs thats retarded

[sterile bluff]

only cvl?

fuck

i don't have any

oh wait i have uni

[ebon schooner]

its both isnt it?

one cv and cvl?

[sterile bluff]

oh is it?

[zenith tundra]

i got warned for saying the r world better be careful

[ebon schooner]

oh thats a thing

noted then

[sterile bluff]

yea

this server for some reason out of all the possible bad words really hate the r word

like i think it's warn on sight

[ebon schooner]

Fleet 1: 1 Light aircraft carrier (CVL) CVL, 1 Light cruiser (CL) CL, 1 Destroyer
Fleet 2: 1 Aircraft carrier (CV) CV, 1 Heavy cruiser (CA) CA, 1 Destroyer

[sterile bluff]

shiet...

so for fleet 1

u have to bring a CVL

[zenith tundra]

bearn is good if u don't have zeppy for fp req. boss also has 0 backline dmg so u can use lvl 1 and she will survive

[sterile bluff]

ok can uni work?

[zenith tundra]

ofc

[sterile bluff]

at lv 105

wait 106 i can awaken

[zenith tundra]

i used shouhou from lvl 108 solo backline with tashkent

[sterile bluff]

oh ok

who for frontline then

i have a lv100 minne

ok i just realized how low my lvs r

[zenith tundra]

cl or dd

[sterile bluff]

114 yuki work?

[zenith tundra]

unless u use a lvl 1 cassin downs and just drown them

[sterile bluff]

wait that's not gonna do enuf emg tho

hmmm

i need a dps frontline that can tank and that is not noshiro

sadlife

[zenith tundra]

u need dps with decent survivability

u are using healer after all

[sterile bluff]

yea... yuki isn't dps

[ebon schooner]

jintsu, kinu

plenty of cls to pick from

[sterile bluff]

jintsuu is at lv 1

oh boi

[zenith tundra]

eva req is scarry tbh. u'll be stat padding everyone for a cl

[sterile bluff]

so i gotta use dd?

damn it

ill try aya then

at least she can deal some dmg

[zenith tundra]

if u have 4-5 rudders

[ebon schooner]

or use lvl1 dd with eva gear

[zenith tundra]

u can go cl

[sterile bluff]

hmmm

i have 4 rn

or almost 4

so I put double rudder on cl?

[zenith tundra]

u put rudder on almost every ship tbh just to hit 950 eva

[sterile bluff]

shit ok

i got belfap and monty

idk how high their eva is tho

[ebon schooner]

you cant double rudder

[zenith tundra]

this is with 4 rudders

[ebon schooner]

thats not a thing

[sterile bluff]

oh wait right

im stupid

u gotta stat pad that much for boss?

yikes

[zenith tundra]

u can use a 6th ship on boss

[sterile bluff]

but oil gonna be

ok tbh tho i don't think it's gonna be that bad, it's only lv 100 right?

[past egret]

🍽

[ebon schooner]

oh pogchamp, i can use richy for next event

[past egret]

Delicious points

[ebon schooner]

this season is such dogshit for me

[sterile bluff]

pfff watch richy be

[ebon schooner]

you do know her kit is out right

[sterile bluff]

ik

[zenith tundra]

this is fun

[ebon schooner]

141

[zenith tundra]

🚮 season

[ebon schooner]

oh

sorelia usually moves last 10-5mins

i can always count on them for points

[zenith tundra]

it's already a bad season idc tbh. i'll just sandbag for aotn

[ebon schooner]

youll sandbag cause its in your dna

[buoyant parrot]

yeaaaah datamined information about the new baguette ships are out!

[zenith tundra]

well i never rush my attempts when i try mid reset. but when i don't try i just use them before going to bed

[buoyant parrot]

🥖

[zenith tundra]

can't even level richelieu because 🚮 req

[buoyant parrot]

lol!

[zenith tundra]

anyway she should be bad for pvp without even need for testing

[meager dawn]

🍝

[ebon schooner]

i can use her for swim oath defense meme

[buoyant parrot]

DAMN son Richie is NAGATO Level

ME WANT!

[zenith tundra]

nagato level with no one to buff

[buoyant parrot]

look at this hot bazoongas skills and also her bazoongas

yeah also that

no one to buff lol!

[finite valve]

their nation buff is all out of whack lol

especially jean buff

self burn for dmg and 10% to refresh

[buoyant parrot]

I'm all up for testing the new Baguette ships

I drop out of the new IJN Ship

I ain't oathing her

[zenith tundra]

jb is a meme and gascogne is too weak for pvp

[buoyant parrot]

can't see any good potential in her at PvP

[zenith tundra]

they all also have mgm +1

[sterile bluff]

only 2 mgm 🚮

[finite valve]

jb might be good if they have "prioritize back line" or specific target skill

[meager dawn]

so warspite kai but not hms

[finite valve]

most of the time she just going to miss her salvo

[meager dawn]

[sterile bluff]

nani?

who's warspite now?

[zenith tundra]

i might just try richelieu jb gascogne just for the memes since i have the other 2 maxed

[ebon schooner]

oathed as well?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[ebon schooner]

[buoyant parrot]

mine is maxed not oathed though

[zenith tundra]

not sure about jb 200 but gascogne for sure

[finite valve]

i just need the new ship

rest are all 200 120

[zenith tundra]

~~ in my defense i never oathed jb tho. she was already oathed when i got the acc ~~

[buoyant parrot]

Stella???

[ebon schooner]

[buoyant parrot]

lol!

[zenith tundra]

nah my jp one

[buoyant parrot]

oh

[zenith tundra]

stella had a lvl 100 jb i'm leveling up in d2

[ebon schooner]

not already 120

[buoyant parrot]

oh okay okay, Im afraid to oath. Would be a waste. JB meh...

[ebon schooner]

jb has pretty nice skins, ngl

[finite valve]

dk if i should buy the swimsuit

[zenith tundra]

if i was still playing en my jb would be stuck at like lb1-2 forgotten in dock

[finite valve]

her last since is better

[buoyant parrot]

richi I like THHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC

[ebon schooner]

richy is pretty good, regal and feminine, not stupid cowtits and stuff

[zenith tundra]

i tried richelieu l2d and not a fan of it tbh. she like changes expression every second not to mention weird boob bounce

[buoyant parrot]

I see boobs I press 👍

[zenith tundra]

rip ur wallet

[buoyant parrot]

ikr

don't get me wrong I also like Albacore's new skin

[ebon schooner]

that one is just weird and random

[buoyant parrot]

well I meant to say all sizes is good.

[ebon schooner]

oh

it wouldve been better if she was in like a cutesy dress, not a black femme fatale kinda thing

[buoyant parrot]

me like it

[vague token]

i think it's pretty good, far superior to base

plus it has the prankster aspect still

[buoyant parrot]

it actually got me surpriiiiised~

[ebon schooner]

wow devs are 200iq

albacore in merit shop

come out with a new skin for her

[buoyant parrot]

smart advertising

😂

[ebon schooner]

yea, fuck this season

[buoyant parrot]

hey look at it this way, People will go exercise coz of Alba

which means more fodder

[shell heron]

would be nice to have more food

[zenith tundra]

i'm glad that i usually don't wait for people to use all attempts

it's a nice season to test that tho

[hidden robin]

is washing machine on Amagi a gud idea ?

[zenith tundra]

yes and no. it depends on comp and positioning

[hidden robin]

what is the "no" ? lacking offensive stats ?

[zenith tundra]

in en u do better with her being more offensive then defensive if u have a tank already

there isn't usually much threat in off tank positions

[hidden robin]

some Amagi is pretty evasive, "miss" on her a lot

[zenith tundra]

people use rudder on her a lot since she is targeted

on defense

but on offense if u use hiryuu tank it's just much better with like sg hpfcr instead

[hot creek]

I use Rudder/SG on her

[zenith tundra]

i use sg rudder in jp too but en i feel better with sg hpfcr tbh

too many namaryuu mirrors

[shell heron]

Same, but during Namaryuu offense days I was using HSFCR/SG

[zenith tundra]

with namagi ws she is tanking so offensive setup is suicide

[hot creek]

Been using namaspite. I have WS aim for enemy's WS or Hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

do u even need rudder then?

[shell heron]

I still like aiming for Hiryuu first. I lose some of WS damage, but really early procc is good

on Amagi, I do

it's either that or armor

[hot creek]

idk, ive never had problems with my current setup. Doesnt feel like she needs more offensive stats.

[zenith tundra]

20pts behind a good season

256

[shell heron]

I feel like im farther

nope, 1 more than you

257

[empty grove]

I feel like we all had shit starts

[zenith tundra]

i waited 5:30hrs for someone to use all 10 on 4th intentionally

as well as last reset waited for at least 5 to get more bonus.

just testing since don't really want to bother

[midnight heron]

start of season and i get bs rng already pls fuck off

actually had a full dps nakaga dodge both ws barrage

[frail orbit]

F then

Me at 260 atm

Actually could go 264 if not deciding to sleep

[proper sorrel]

I gave up on this season already

no one moved at all

[frail orbit]

From tomorrow tho
Not gonna gensui I'd say

[midnight heron]

shit like dis is y i never afk pvp anymore

even against shitty geared fleets u can lose by virtue of rng

[errant quail]

Hello people
Can someone orient me at how things work at the top of the exercise ladder?
Like
How do points stack up?
If I battle peeps with higher rank than me, I get more points?
I'm talking about the two-digit rank zone

It's my first time in this pressure zone

And it's fluctuating like hell

[zenith tundra]

score gain is based on score difference in between you and the defender

[errant quail]

I'm not usually a PVP player, I just want Alba and that's it

[midnight heron]

doesnt matter u r pvp player now

[errant quail]

True

I feel like I'm getting addicted to PvP now

[ebon schooner]

if all you want is albacore, just do attacks and youll eventually get enough merits

[errant quail]

But yeah, it is human nature to be competitive

Sadly

I was like 18 earlier

Then after an attack, I got about 14 points(?)

[zenith tundra]

if opponent has higher score or same score but higher rank u get base points and sometimes even bonus score when the difference is over a certain threshold.
if opponent has lower score or same but lower rank you get base score with minus bonus points.

[errant quail]

Minus points?

[zenith tundra]

u can check base score in the chart in pins

[errant quail]

Sucks

But I guess so

[zenith tundra]

yep u will get less then base score if u attack someone with lower rank

[errant quail]

One more thing

Assuming I get Admiral of the Navy

[ebon schooner]

at different ranks, you get a set amount of points, you can get more or less than the base set depending on your opponent

[errant quail]

Then got ranked down due to points

What will happen

[midnight heron]

mail is sent when u get the rank

so it doesnt matter

[zenith tundra]

aotn only counts for the bonus u receive in mail

[errant quail]

So that means

[zenith tundra]

as long as u hit it once in a season doesn't matter if u fall behind or not

[errant quail]

I can "get" AoTn, then don't go back and I still "have" it?

Nice

Thanks

[ebon schooner]

most people will try for 2200 and fuck off from pvp or keep going for w/e reasons

[midnight heron]

dats y rushers exist

[errant quail]

[zenith tundra]

u keep using all attempts for merits

there is just no reason to get bonuses after that unless u aim for eos

[ebon schooner]

be a fake rusher

[midnight heron]

im fake rusher rn

[zenith tundra]

i'm a fake sandbagger

[errant quail]

I'm

AlexPaulLEWZ

[midnight heron]

i only sandbag till reset cuz im tired of facing too many meta fleet in top ranks

so i only get bonus pts for 1 match lul

[errant quail]

I

[zenith tundra]

i got 1 bonus last reset as well

[errant quail]

Use Kent and Two Bulins

Is that acceptable

[ebon schooner]

i already gave up this season but forgot to turn off alarm

[midnight heron]

if whoever on my list doesnt move then i get nothing so w/e

[zenith tundra]

pvp defense fleet has no impact on scores

[midnight heron]

dats y fake rusher

[errant quail]

Yep

That's why I am complacent in putting HEY SHIKIKAN and Bulins as defense

And I just got the taste of meta fleets because of my "rush" to get Alba

Jintsuu Retro?

Really?

I'm not putting too much faith in my 13000 power

[ebon schooner]

defense fleets are just meme/flex or a fleet that can potentially annoy you

[errant quail]

But a 9000 fleet with a Jintsuu retrofit was

OP

[ebon schooner]

and take an extra 10-30 seconds depending on the comp

[midnight heron]

the only thing dat annoys me is rng

[errant quail]

Yeah... whenever I see defense fleets with Shirakami Fubuki, I get the desire to destroy them

Because I get so salty, HAHAHAHA

[zenith tundra]

just write everyone name down and how they behaved and then there is no longer rng

[errant quail]

RNG is a bitch

[ebon schooner]

i shouldve did that last season

compile a list of rushers

[errant quail]

I mean

Why

Can't you just destroy them all?

[ebon schooner]

so i can refresh or know not to

thats not the point, i want bonus points

[errant quail]

Oh

Now I get it

Hahaha

[ebon schooner]

youll remember names and such

then youll have those weirdos who do 1-2 attacks and stop for w/e reason

[shell heron]

the point of sandbagging is not to destroy them

it is to destroy them and steal some extra points

First 3 days, the pool of players around your rank is huge. difficult to remember all rushers

gets pretty easy starting week 2 tho

[celest obsidian]

Any ideas, why system gives me opponents like this? I won all my matches before and 12h ago I was at rank ~700

[shell heron]

that looks right.

that person prob did all 10 matches

yes ranks change drastically at this time

[ebon schooner]

252, lul

a solid -13 from last season

[shell heron]

my 257 isn't much better

[ebon schooner]

wow i cant math

[shell heron]

still an easy EoS top 10 if I do what I usually do

[silent ocean]

so before this reset what was the optimal points to have 260?

or wait nm its in the pins

[ebon schooner]

273-252

=19

a solid -19

[shell heron]

in the pins is a record of one of my previous runs

260+ is average

for sandbagging that is

[ebon schooner]

i went +0 last reset

[silent ocean]

terrible at it i guess 256

[shell heron]

still recoverable.

you have the next 3 days to make up for any lost bonuses

That chart is pretty accurate. Just don't look at week 2/Friday/2nd reset

[silent ocean]

just need to be patient and find the rushers and sand baggers this is fun tbh at least for me

[shell heron]

that be gensui rush

keep at it and touching top 10 should be easy

[errant quail]

Wait

What are sandbaggers anyway

[midnight heron]

||ppl on sandy server who teabag her everyday||

[errant quail]

Lmao

[hot creek]

in the context of pvp it means someone who waits on their matches and attacks slowly

[midnight heron]

actually come to think of it is it a wartime reference lul

[errant quail]

[hot creek]

nah. sandbag original definition is someone who is deliberately not playing at their best in order to conceal their real skill. In the context of AL pvp its someone who sits on 5 matches and at middle ranks most of the season even though they could top rank if they used up all their matches.

personally I would rename the term to campers/camping

but its too late for that. sandbag as a term has already stuck even though its rather removed from its original definition.

[midnight heron]

i mean in wartime if u were camping in base u wud need sandbags to fortify ur position

at least dats where i think the reference comes from

[errant quail]

If we're talking about sandbagging

In AL Terms...

Doesn't that mean

I'll get

A high rank temporarily

If

OHOHOHO

This devious plan

Let me try it next season

[midnight heron]

isnt dat the whole point unless u aiming for eos

[errant quail]

Eos?

[midnight heron]

tho tbf eos is also temporary

lul

end of season

[errant quail]

What happens with Eos?

Do I get bonus merit

[midnight heron]

its just bragging rights

u dont get shit from it

[errant quail]

People...

have the natural instinct to brag

So I get you

[zenith tundra]

it's literally to see who had highest score in a season

eos is just some ss of leaderboard since it doesn't last more then 1m usually

[errant quail]

HAHAHAHAHA

If you get rank 1

Then screenshot it immediately

Then brag

HAHA

I WAS NUMBER ONE FOR 10 seconds!

*insert Bache laugh

[charred sable]

Well RIP me, looks like I somehow missed on a set of 5 attacks

[crude mortar]

life is also tempolary

just like eos title

@charred sable cya next season

[ripe latch]

[forest lake]

Tfw only 1 bonus so far and it was pretty minimal too

[zenith tundra]

this was supposed to be a bad season

[frail orbit]

Keks, same w/ me then

367 5/10

[zenith tundra]

ok it still is a bad season then

[shell heron]

I just did my first match

[zenith tundra]

eh i still have to sleep so rip next reset

[wintry lantern]

After reading this whole channel I now understand how some people can achieve much higher scores than me even If I win every match 😅

[shell heron]

Yes. The ladder rewards those who wait.

Actually, I want to calculate what is the difference between a pure rusher and r1 EoS

[hot creek]

"reward"

[shell heron]

2 minutes of bragging here tops

[hot creek]

Come to Sandy, you can have up to 15 minutes

[sour oasis]

"R1 EoS"? Rank 1 end of season?

From last season (2603), it's a little over 100 points (2496).

It really puts emphasis on if you get an average of +5 bonus for each of your first 20 fights , you can rush the rest of the way (presuming you don't hit -1 or -2 bonuses) and touch top-15 EoS.

[shell heron]

I figured it was about 100 or so

[elder crane]

Interesting

Apparently Richi's small pellets in her barrage also apply the burn/stat reduction

That makes it a lot more consistent on main fleet, and can hit vanguard too

[vague token]

i mean it makes sense, although since they're probably dd tier you get 1% rolls

but that's still like 30 1% dice rolls

which is nice

xD

[elder crane]

no, it's still 70%

so yeah

oh hey, the new CA gun has higher burn chance than other CA HE

9% per shell instead of 8%

to this I have to ask
but why

[sour oasis]

Does the game update pvp rankings in the middle of a fight? (i.e. at Admiral, I start to fight someone 34 points above me just as they finish; by the time I finish, they're 44 points above me; will I get a bonus point?)

[elder crane]

Yes

that's why for rank bonus logging, you should ideally check what opponent score is after you win

[vague token]

so i bet that bugs with zara's no burn skill

🍝

[humble cairn]

How do points for pvp even work

[ebon schooner]

Well there’s a chart in pins that tells you the base score you will get depending on your current rank

Whether you get a + or - of the base points depends on your opponent

[ionic magnet]

points are basically base + bonus

bonus points depends on the score difference between you and your opponent

[zenith tundra]

this is looking interesting. 11-4hm on saint louis

[vague token]

interesting

[keen sparrow]

[zenith tundra]

it's a 6% more dps on a moving target. seems reasonable

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

1 bonus this reset

[crude mortar]

is this good start?

[vague token]

im at 448 so

[ebon schooner]

[zenith tundra]

it's a bit behind but shouldn't matter that much

[ebon schooner]

oops

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

i started 137 so it basically doesnt matter

xD

[ebon schooner]

missed 3-4 ticks

[vague token]

unless you are ahead and stay ahead the entire thing

but that basically never happens

[ebon schooner]

not like it mattered, garbage season start anyway

[shell heron]

I'm 445 so I'm not doing so good either

[vague token]

oof

[ebon schooner]

[zenith tundra]

450

[ebon schooner]

so many people having shitty season starts

[vague token]

it's cause d2 farm

[zenith tundra]

people should just rush and go back to d2 farm without worries

[shell heron]

even 450 is pretty shitty compared to a normal season

my first person didn't move til 7 minutes left

[zenith tundra]

i slept trough 2/3 of last reset so i wasn't expecting more then 1 bonus anyway

[crude mortar]

sleep is overrated

[zenith tundra]

my season is trash anyway

[crude mortar]

I attack last 5min

but people dont move at all

I get bonus from last 1 hour

and camp til last 5min

but nobody moving

[zenith tundra]

there are a lot of people that are behind

[crude mortar]

but how

just miss?

[zenith tundra]

if u don't care that much about pvp is easy to forget resets

plus d2 farm

[crude mortar]

yeah

[vague token]

the farm is eternal

[shell heron]

some of us are behind when looking at PvP standards

but it is expected since D2 is life

[vague token]

got me some darkova

100% rusher

[zenith tundra]

they fall behind tho

[ionic magnet]

even d2 is dead

3 hrs of zero bp

[shell heron]

I went 8 today before my first drop

can't complain too much, sitting on 28 this event

[vague token]

2nd bonus owo

[shell heron]

I got a feeling cut off this season will be 85

[zenith tundra]

0 bonuses

[shell heron]

I see one, but looks like a casual sandbagger

yea, casual sandbagger. even if you rush, your rank should be Lieutenant Commander atm

[zenith tundra]

got 2 bonuses in a row and now dead again

[crude mortar]

i just got my first bonus

been camping every 15min since reset

[zenith tundra]

i got 1st and 10min later another

[crude mortar]

[granite flame]

have a gn qt

wait what

meant to send that it general

[glacial shuttle]

Against Namagrosse, who should I snipe first if using WFC?

also should I replace Aurora for Sheffield on vanguard? It's YKKZ + Juneau

[granite flame]

pretty sure you snipe amagi to get rid of her buffs and debuffs

[ionic magnet]

amagi yes because goodluck sniping fdg

as for wfc, stall VGs work best while you let your backline outtrade your opponents

azuma>noshiro>sheff>others p much

tho im having fun with helena recently

[vague token]

im using helena too atm

just 1 radar proc with double cv using diver cuda = lul

if i roll taihou buff even more lol

beeg dice rolls

[ionic magnet]

hype for helena kai

[granite flame]

rng fleet best fleet

still no helena retro skill leaks yet right

[zenith tundra]

~~ still no helena retro yet ~~

[vague token]

if helena just gets tank stats and no skill id be happy

xD

[zenith tundra]

idc about some leaks i want the actual thing

[ionic magnet]

yea they already teased it last year
who knows how long will it take them again

[vague token]

doesnt matter where i put her, off tank or mid she dies before juneau usually

[granite flame]

well if the art is out

[proper sorrel]

if Helena gets Martyr juneau is out of the equation

[vague token]

what, just use both

[zenith tundra]

balancing problems

[vague token]

establish ultimate life lead

[proper sorrel]

double martyr sounds interesting actually

[granite flame]

helena with martyr would be nice actually

fucking throw the rare out of the meta

would she even be able to get that skill tho

[proper sorrel]

PvE people will be mad

[zenith tundra]

seems overkill considering how overkill sometimes even juneau is with pearl unless helena gets as tanky as azuma/yukikaze

[granite flame]

as tanky as azuma

[vague token]

that would be meme tier

dear god

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

but hey amagi says the sky is the limit

so

it's possible

[proper sorrel]

every 20 seconds, 50% (75%) chance makes fleet invulnerable to attacks for 4 (8) seconds

[proper sorrel]

[ionic magnet]

just enough of those AA memes please

[vague token]

what did brooklyn class even get for upgrades

probably just aa

[frail orbit]

Better wait tbh

But perhaps, yes

[zenith tundra]

aa and hp would make the most sense

at least considering the current "everything is for w13" meta

[vague token]

watch w14 be back to dd torp bosses

xD

no planes, only dodge

or subs

oh god

[zenith tundra]

i don't believe in w 14 ever

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

i don't see them going over 120

[empty grove]

They'd need to tweak exp curve for going over 120

[silent ocean]

do more then that if pr3 is coming lol

[zenith tundra]

anyway with the new updates coming they don't need to bother with new level cap for a while

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

i'm really curious if the new exploration mode will cost oil since using 6 level 120 ships with 70-80 oil cost seems dumb

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

that's the 1 thought i had since i saw those sirens battles with 120 ships getting hurt quite badly

but it would be fun with a system like war archives with no extra oil need for fleet

[ripe latch]

|| some mod warm anyone bec we are toxics and discuss about pve ||

[crude mortar]

[empty grove]

Imagine raising beyond 120 for pvp

[zenith tundra]

just no

[empty grove]

Just dorm Juneau for a year

[zenith tundra]

maybe i would spam 7-2 tho. 1 year might be too much

[vague token]

oops dropped one

[shell heron]

good season, no good food

[zenith tundra]

idk both my seasons are going good actually even tho i didn't want to

[vague token]

was playing counter strike and poof xD

[zenith tundra]

what did u lose to?

[crude mortar]

dead game

[zenith tundra]

just bad luck

[shell heron]

idk, I would consider being 5 up from my reference good.

think I'm 7 behind

[zenith tundra]

i'm expecting around 550 in jp but only 532 in en

[empty grove]

I'd be pretty good

Had a 156 start & then a complete dead next reset

[zenith tundra]

i hit 545 this season with not even a good start

[shell heron]

532, that's the exact score I have recorded at this point

and I'm 11 behind now

[empty grove]

I'll be able to tryhard again when this event is done

[zenith tundra]

i do 1-2 d2 clears and check list. but i'm not farming all that much

[empty grove]

I check when a comm finishes

[shell heron]

Just one dead reset. I'm at half my resets after my 140 start being dead

[zenith tundra]

141 start in jp and now i'll be hitting 710 next reset

people just really rushed in my lists for reasons

[karmic lake]

[vague token]

dunno i just was tapping xD

probably hiryuu

usually the only thing that does it lul

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra ppl rush to find u

only high places after reset, they fixed ?

[zenith tundra]

714

[hot creek]

10 bps away from finishing my DRs. Can I pull them before maintenance?

Would require an all-nighter and a unlikely luck.

[crude mortar]

avrora server in nutshell

[hot creek]

I have concluded odds are too unlikely. Going to sleep instead.

[abstract cypress]

still waiting for non ijn meta

[karmic lake]

[ionic magnet]

2 bps away from 457

[crude mortar]

34 more here

[ripe latch]

still waiting for non ijn meta
@abstract cypress ironblood?

[crude mortar]

how2build kms main fleet
step1.add bismarck as flag ship
step2 add tirpitz
step3.add fdg
step4.remove bismarck and replace her with warspite
step5.remove tirpitz and replace her with amagi
there you go kms pvp meta fleet

[midnight heron]

ykkz getting rekt by jun

[coral wren]

is there potential for richelieu to be in fdg/warspites position in a namagi comp since her stats are fairly comparable to fdg/warspite?

[finite valve]

stat alone ain't going to carry her in pvp if her skill are shit

which they kindda are

[coral wren]

i see..

she has a 75% barrage every salvo that has 70% chance to burn and reduce enemy's FP/TP/Airpower by 5% while burning for 30s and 12% more main gun dmg when equipped with HE gun.

[ripe latch]

paper fleet with fp / tp buff

(6%) less damage.

seems with juneau not bad

but still paper fleet

saint + d'arc + juneau
richelieu + amagi?/fdg + ws kai

https://patchwiki.biligame.com/images/blhx/a/aa/1zdfuevbvwcwxtpdkkqhp0is7sxm60g.gif

improoved aqua barrage

[upper sparrow]

burn memes

[finite valve]

imply amagi care for burn meme shit

[forest lake]

I'm just gonna try Richy/Amagi/WarKai, Jeanne/Ykkz/Juneau

Almost 0 french synergy but I always say combining all the best individual ships in one fleet is also synergy

[ripe latch]

but why yuki on french fleet

[forest lake]

Who cares about french

If they can't win they can go back to waving their white flags

🚮

[obsidian kite]

Might as well go full french and see lol

[ripe latch]

see when u fleet die after one big sakura

[wintry lantern]

Dumb question but are there any meta ships for pvp atacks?

[ripe latch]

on pins link to googledocs

[shell heron]

Oi. I saw that

But strangely accurate this season

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra see d'arc on pvp?

[zenith tundra]

idk she doesn't seem very useful tbh i'd use saint over her for sure in a meme french team

low speed and shield at bad timing

base evasion even with skill is not that high

seems forceful unless for some reason she doesn't take dmg for her shield to block sonething useful

[whole terrace]

Oh i just realised that jeanne's skill is a shield to each vanguard ship

unlike Lusty's which is a single shield that covers whole vanguard

[elder crane]

Lusty is to each too...

they protect and pop independently

[whole terrace]

Oh? Do they?

it's still better than it initially seemed to me

[ebon schooner]

is that a pre dev20 azuma

[granite flame]

@abstract cypress ironblood?
@ripe latch
you mean Dev 30 FDG Solo carry?

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

is this normal?

nobody moving for like 4 hour alrerady

all low lvl

[coral wren]

shouldve refreshed while u can

[ebon schooner]

[coral wren]

in pvp, twin 100mm or 76mm blue for ayanami

[shell heron]

76, she has a torpedo barrage that does actual damage

[vague token]

want more aa, 100, more damage, 76

[coral wren]

i see..

[shell heron]

you're already using ayanami. i don't think that bit of AA with help too much

[crude mortar]

she

d

i

e

if dive bomb hit

she exploded

[whole terrace]

@elder crane what equipment do I use for warkai hiryuu amagi? (no vh or hpfcr)

[shell heron]

my bet is jet fuel/rudder for hiryuu

SG/rudder for the other 2

[whole terrace]

ah that's what i'm doing except double sg on warkai. Beaver sg on amagi

[shell heron]

beaver on hiryuu instead of rudder might be a good idea

[whole terrace]

ok

[elder crane]

Beacon/VH actually

Jet fuel isn't too useful for Hiryuu

damage is backloaded with final counter, so AA isn't an issue, and beacon clinches the duel scenario

[vague token]

plus you usually dump 2 strikes at once

[elder crane]

SG/Rudder on Amagi, Badge/White shell on Warkai

[vague token]

airspace too saturated for aa to stop

[elder crane]

without VH, I'd Rudder Hiryuu

[whole terrace]

got it

[shell heron]

I forgot white shell is good on Warkai

[elder crane]

I ran SG/White shell for a while, and meh, that was fine too

[ripe latch]

not good , if ws amagi ihr + beaver / double sg - 1-2 misses

so ihr + sg or double

white is variable

[abstract cypress]

@granite flame yea + fckin ijn + jesus to make it bs, not with other ironblood/uss cuz theyre weakling compared to them

[past egret]

If there’s a will there is a way

@abstract cypress

[abstract cypress]

ive tried tons of fleet, still not match comparedto them

[silent ocean]

i mean fdg is ironblood so

[abstract cypress]

cuz theres no anti meta mechanism which make this boring and repetitive

[narrow meadow]

even fdg doesnt redeem ironblood

[abstract cypress]

hurr durr new op ship then everyone put em

[silent ocean]

idk as they stated before many times in this channel and theres vids about how to achieve aon tbh man thats any game

[narrow meadow]

richelieu could make french faction pvp viable but they're kinda weak on the torp side of things which is why IJN dominates pvp

[karmic forum]

Ironblood probably needs PR3 to give them a top tier ship

[silent ocean]

be it best comps for raiding or dungeons etc

[karmic forum]

Richelieu might be good as an individual ship

But the rest of the french faction can't be redeemed in PvP

[granite flame]

richelieu will not make french pvp viable lol

the skills are burn memes

[karmic forum]

At best you can run some preload memes with Riche and JB

[narrow meadow]

burn memes and just flat massive stat buffs

[abstract cypress]

it not like i cant aotn lol

[granite flame]

@karmic forum wargaming released a shit ton of PR viable ships for germany, same with russia

im speculating pr3 will have russia and kms

[abstract cypress]

just using the exact same fleet/resets gets me bored

[narrow meadow]

you can aotn with other factions but its a pain in the ass and there's no good reason for it to be

its so boring seeing nothing but nagato amagi yukikaze juneau

[karmic forum]

Theres a good chance KMS gets another good ship with PR3

The backline is almost there

Vanguard is a lost cause though

[silent ocean]

well yeah like i said most games get like that but if you have an idea could take it #game-feedback XD i mean i say that but we all know they cant do much besides listen to people bitch feelsbad idk i guess its because im realativly new i dont find it boring

[karmic forum]

Might as well just run the meta vanguard

[narrow meadow]

you're new meaning you havent seen the same exact fleet every 2nd week exercise for months

ofc

[silent ocean]

you mean like nagato amagi fdg?

[narrow meadow]

namagiryuu, namagiwar

[silent ocean]

ah yeah all the time

[narrow meadow]

the occasional hms backline or foxes

[granite flame]

@karmic forum unless they give a "large cruiser" to KMS frontline lol

[narrow meadow]

maybe a torp meme frontline ever once in a while, but it gets so stale so fast

[silent ocean]

its the wall i cant overcome atm or have a hard time with but again its fun trying to beat a meta comp

[narrow meadow]

the thing is, once you've overcome it

you've answered azur lane pvp meta period

there is nothing new for you

[granite flame]

german pvp is still viable

this is the guy im orbiting and making videos inspired from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF-73rG6GIw&t=157s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj2Sh62WklE

maxed fdg tho

hard carries

[narrow meadow]

you can absolutely win with other faction fleets its just you still only ever see the same stuff

[frail orbit]

Btw
Rush all 10 due to maintenance or not?

[narrow meadow]

HMS should really have more representation than it does, HMS fleets are really strong

grrrrrr i missed 5 exercises again

3rd season in a row

[abstract cypress]

u mean fdg solo carry

using pitz than mama

[granite flame]

tirpitz is better

imo

[narrow meadow]

helena retrofit will probably be helpful to a USS fleet

[vague token]

helena retro will help everyone besides eagle fleet

also, using pure fleets

[shell heron]

good torp meme is a pure faction

[zenith tundra]

a meme is still a meme

[frail orbit]

Anyway

Rush all 10?

For next reset?

Or just sandbag 5 of em?

[desert raptor]

they should revamp pvp but ill doubt they will do it

its just one fleet basically

vs the same fleet

[karmic forum]

Rush all 10 and sleep well imo

[zenith tundra]

my en season is not trash with 9hrs of sleep

698

[frail orbit]

@zenith tundra fok ye I got 693 zzzz

@karmic forum i meant for maintenance . . .

[karmic forum]

Oh hey I have 698 as well

[zenith tundra]

if they have problems with this maintenance might as well need to rush to -5 attempts

[karmic forum]

Its just a couple of skins and one mini event

How badly can they fuck it up?

[frail orbit]

Added voice tho

[zenith tundra]

u know that voices is just a file added to download

separately

[empty grove]

24 hour maintenance

[zenith tundra]

i'm actually surprised that jp maint is supposed to be 6hrs

[empty grove]

Yeah I was wondering why EN's was 8

& then checked JP's time

[naive dome]

if i use sheffield in vanguard, ships with more HP than her won't receive her buff even if their HP fall below hers?

[abstract cypress]

yes

"at the start of battle"

[vague token]

it's a buff that applies as soon as battle starts, this also means that if sheffy sinks the buff is still active

[sour oasis]

Hhng. Game locked up in my last ticket. I had to restart app. RIP.

Stupid updates.

[ebon schooner]

[sour oasis]

Why is there a maintenance again? Random bug fixes?

[proper sorrel]

character voice, skins, and sutff like that

[sour oasis]

Oh, the Little Lusty? Hm. I hope there are bug fixes in there.

[granite flame]

how effective is armor break in pvp

[zenith tundra]

has small use in ws hms teams but othewise useless

too random and low chance and duration to be used consistently outside of ws forced aim

[buoyant parrot]

my Guild happy coz of new Hamman skin <3

[midnight heron]

for some reason i used all my attempts and am at only 810 pts

not even sure if i missed any

or i just got a very bad start cuz it was like 1 whole day of dead list

[prime panther]

smol lusty reduces acc rate, any thoughts on it?

[zenith tundra]

i would reach 856 with all

can u link datamine

[upper sparrow]

Reducing acc rate? So like low-key eldridge then?