pvp

[elder crane]

Well, for offense Amagi vs defense Warkai, whether or not defense fleet has Nagato buff shouldn't matter

seems like Nagato buff is implemented wrong

[zenith tundra]

found it

i was taking defense acc not offense acc

[elder crane]

for offense Amagi vs defense Warkai, whether or not defense fleet has Nagato buff shouldn't matter
I think

so whether you use defense acc or offense acc shouldn't be making the values change when Nagato buff is toggled for defense fleet

though I suppose we caught a second bug

[zenith tundra]

as i said i was using defense acc instead of offensive acc

[elder crane]

why is defense acc affected by Nagato buff for defense fleet when the ship in question is warkai on defense?
or do you need to manually keep in mind Nagato doesn't affect nonIJN and toggle it off?

[zenith tundra]

for ships on defense u have to check on their column

i don't see any numbers changing with nagato buff for ws kai

if it would affect her it would change eva%

[elder crane]

let me reload

it's still doing it

[zenith tundra]

i think it's same bug as before... i have to manually change the acc for all ships now to right column

if nagato affected ws kai on defense it should change eva%

i fixed the amagi vs ws section

check now

[elder crane]

i was using defense acc instead of offensive acc
Okay, sure
but the numbers changing means that the acc is changing no?
why you anyone's acc change when the matchup is offense amagi vs defense warkai and I toggle defense Nagato buff?

that's what I'm confused about

[zenith tundra]

as i said instead of using offensive acc in the calculation i was using defense acc

[elder crane]

Does seem to not change anymore at least

oh, so the calc thought the ship was defense when it used the acc?

that would make sense, since a defense amagi would receive the buff

naruhodo

[zenith tundra]

now it should be fixed for amagi in all matchups

and i have to change it for every ship

[elder crane]

should've used a custom formula, maybe

[zenith tundra]

i wish i knew much more then i do about sheets

[elder crane]

not that I do that when I really should, either

tools -> script editor
allows you to use JS to create custom fuctions

which you can then use in sheet like you'd use Excel functions

[zenith tundra]

the problem i had is that crit is calculated against every opponents separately. so i don't know a way to properly do that while still make it easier for to copy paste in between ships outside of adding it into the formula itself

now the copy paste is screwing me so rip

[elder crane]

the "lazy" way is to just pass the function literally everything you might need

[vague token]

make everything a variable

xD

[elder crane]

might be able to use a search-replace for this

if not, regex
but, well
you know what they say about regex
"I had 99 problems, but then I used regex, and now I have 100 problems"
https://xkcd.com/1171/

xkcd: Perl Problems

To generate #1 albums, 'jay --help' recommends the -z flag.

[zenith tundra]

last time i tried using search and replace with enable in formulas it crashed the page

it's just worse for cv since their damage formulas also have enemy aa in it

[vague token]

i mean wouldnt it be the same formula, then just add aa

[zenith tundra]

for bb is just copy paste outside of the 3 annoying ships with dr

[elder crane]

sounds simple in theory, but

I can relate

[vague token]

like i would just do like base damage is stats + gear or w/e

then just add in aa on a separate column

like final air damage

i dunno

[zenith tundra]

then u end up creating tons of columns extra that need to be hidden

[vague token]

yep

xD

but i like being able to at least track things working properly through each step

easier to debug

[elder crane]

with properly set up modular functions, it'd be much easier
properly set up modular functions is though to make
saves you time in the long run, sure, but much more work until you have a presentable project...

[zenith tundra]

it was my 1st time attempting something like this. it's normal that i fucked up

[vague token]

i think there's an xkcd on automating

it would be appropriate here

[elder crane]

https://xkcd.com/1319/
or
https://xkcd.com/1205/
?

xkcd: Automation

'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.

xkcd: Is It Worth the Time?

Don't forget the time you spend finding the chart to look up what you save. And the time spent reading this reminder about the time spent. And the time trying to figure out if either of those actually make sense. Remember, every second counts toward your life total, including these right now.

[vague token]

both probably

although first is literally automation

xD

[elder crane]

'Automating' comes from the roots 'auto-' meaning 'self-', and 'mating', meaning 'screwing'.

[crude mortar]

auto mating

[vague token]

now we need TTK calculator

;))))

[zenith tundra]

20 min of work wasted because i set wrong column again... time to retire

[hot creek]

theres only one TTK around here, and he's ex-TTK. Demoted to SKK since the TTK life was too stressful.

[zenith tundra]

wtf is a ttk and skk

[hot creek]

Teitoku, Shikikan

[zenith tundra]

that doesn't explain anything but ok

[hot creek]

The player is called Teitoku in KC. But in AL we are Shikikan.

[zenith tundra]

ok make sense

[frail orbit]

Lul am even used to play KC anyway

During the good ol 15'

[hot creek]

I quit in in 18' after I literally had a dream about playing AL. So I was like, might as well try AL out now. I was already on the verge of quitting KC at that point anyways though.

Oh, Hammann and QE doujin convince me to play as well

[elder crane]

Doujins are what made me realize AL existed, but the WoWS collab is what got me started

[zenith tundra]

am i the only one who started because the gameplay seemed ok after watching a stream of it and not because of hentai?

[elder crane]

technically I only knew of AL from that and didn't start playing because of it

then WoWS collab announced
looked at gameplay a bit, seemed like a decent side game

[vague token]

al is a great idle game

xD

[zenith tundra]

i started idling al too late

[zenith tundra]

find and replace was the way all along
should be fixed now

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

still missing armor break on this tho

[vague token]

good luck rigging that unless you use intrepid or w/e

or baltimore i guess

[zenith tundra]

i used shibuki

831

[vague token]

ah

[zenith tundra]

24% sucks

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

i would lose too much with intrepid

dunno about balti. enemy ahs shields

[vague token]

just put a spammy aux maybe

weak mg that shoots fast

[zenith tundra]

can u break daily shields?

[vague token]

oh that one

dont think so

use sap gun for spam maybe

xD

[zenith tundra]

it's the only way u can ever reach that dmg

[vague token]

shoot in between shields or w/e

[zenith tundra]

what's balti chance?

of armor break

[elder crane]

3.5% per shell

[zenith tundra]

i'll stick with shibuki

[vague token]

just use both

xD

roll more dice

[elder crane]

you end up with around, I think it was 20% uptime or so?

Don't you need helena and cleve though for damage boosts

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[vague token]

true

[zenith tundra]

so it has to be shibuki

[vague token]

that's a lot of dice rolls

sub 30 lol

[elder crane]

shibuki probably still your best bet though
2 chances of 24%, was it?

[zenith tundra]

i reset like 5 times just to get helena + cleveland procs

[elder crane]

that's better than Balti's ~20% uptime

[zenith tundra]

also enemy has shields so rip uptime

[elder crane]

and that

[vague token]

too bad we cant use the surcouf gun

has the highest bullets/second

xD

pew pew

[elder crane]

too bad can't use a CB gun

"what shields?"

[vague token]

cb gun doesnt have as much bullets/second as surcouf

xD

[zenith tundra]

in my last attempt i got everything to proc but was too slow and no crit so rip for today

[vague token]

the ap one is like 40% less bullets

azuma is 50%

i wish we had more on hit skills

so we could get a spammy ca gun

sap gun is like barely more bullets than roon gun

[zenith tundra]

i would prefer faster guns then more bullets

[vague token]

that's only because we have no on hit effects

there's like 2 ships with On Hit

although i guess mogami is on torpedo hit

xD

[elder crane]

Kitakaze

on torp hit

[vague token]

ok there's a bit more

[elder crane]

Le malin is coming soon

you have Tash as well

[vague token]

tash doesnt have any on hits?

[elder crane]

and then there's, erm

who was it

[vague token]

her barrage does it

[elder crane]

Tash is on barrage hit

[vague token]

_>

[elder crane]

swiftsure, right

[vague token]

i mean a way to adjust the speed for the skills by using faster or slower bullets/second gun skills

yeah

[elder crane]

that's who I was thinking of

[vague token]

;)

suzuya

forgot

every 8 hits from main gun

[elder crane]

oh yeah

[vague token]

sap gun = 1 instant proc

xD

too bad it's sap gun

no ammo change skill

=//////

oh i-25 is per gun hit

that is weird

lul

[elder crane]

yeah, lol

[vague token]

actually does le malin even reset her counter

it says every 10 hits on the same enemy

but does the skill stack on the target

or on herself

????

cause it puts a debuff

that increases destroyer damage on that target

it might be user friendly if it just puts a counter on everyone she shoots

[elder crane]

has to be on same target

[vague token]

no i mean like, you shoot 1 ship 1 time

puts 1 stack

shoot a different

then back to first

first should still have 1 stack internally

if it's a debuff

otherwise that is some jank

[zenith tundra]

it should start restacking after proc

[elder crane]

iirc that is how it works
and huh, Tash gun is pretty good for that skill, isn't it

138 was, erm

[vague token]

or an ap gun

you could debuff two enemies at same time

xD

[elder crane]

with HE velocity and the dispersion, well

[vague token]

if destroyer ap guns didnt suck

[zenith tundra]

by main gun it counts all projectile or only cd

[elder crane]

138 technically could proc it with two rounds of fire, but lol, don't count on it
tash gun though
6 shots for a leeway on missing
Normal velocity
laser tight dispersion

[vague token]

yeah

maybe bread gun

fastest ap dd gun

xD

[elder crane]

"here, let me sacrifice all my main gun damage so I can get a multiplier for my main guns"

[vague token]

it's all destroyers ;)

plus it boosts all their damage ;)

gotta push up those dive bomb damage on shibuki

[elder crane]

tbf you could run it with torpDDs, yeah

[vague token]

we just need a good ap dd gun

and that would be ideal for the debuff

[zenith tundra]

i think it's much better with gun dd

[vague token]

oh right zara came with an on hit technically

[zenith tundra]

more consistent dmg overall

unless u manual torp

[vague token]

yeah

oh right white heart also has crit per gun hit

ap dd gun to max her crit asap xD

i think the majority of On Hits are torpedos

except we dont have "fast" torpedos or "slow" torpedos per second

so rip

where's the torp equivalent of 76mm

xD

[zenith tundra]

use meme twin french torp

[vague token]

im pretty sure the torps/second on that are worse than the quads/rainbow

2/19.42

lul

yeah it's worse than the quad mag

thus also worse than rainbow

we'd need like a single torp launcher with sub 10

[zenith tundra]

is rainbow best for torp per second?

[vague token]

.17/s

gold quad is uh

.15/s

so yeah

maybe the regulars will be faster

but you wont hit as many

so it's moot point

quint no-mag is .189/s

[upper sparrow]

rainbow normal torp when

[vague token]

kek

[zenith tundra]

they just need to make rainbow torp available

[upper sparrow]

inb4 it will be on pr3 eq soon

[vague token]

for a single torp launcher to be higher than those in rounds/s you'd need to be like .2/s

which means it'd have to be 5 base reload

or so

[zenith tundra]

not happening

it's a main gun at that point

[vague token]

i mean, a torp statted 76mm would be fine

mogami

gotta stack that fp boost asap

[zenith tundra]

a fast reload torp might actually make torp ships much better tbh

like even a single that shoots straight

[vague token]

i mean it would be like sub 100mm

and do no damage

it's just for procs

xD

76mm torpedo

smol torpedo

what even is the smallest torpedo irl

[zenith tundra]

not really no damage. if u keep a close dps with normal torp and just make it shoot once every 6-7s instead of 5 in 20s it wouldn't be bad

[vague token]

smallest torpedo ever made by us was 250mm

smallest we have in game is 533 lul

[zenith tundra]

lol

[vague token]

oh here we are, list of torpedos by diameter on wikipedia

oh it is the 250mm

im sorry, what is this 7000mm torpedo

nani

[zenith tundra]

7m of torp? wtf

i would assume is length for torp not diameter

[vague token]

yeah it doesnt show diameter

"heavy weight"

not the heaviest

this table is pretty lame xD

they put 2 dimensions + weight in the same column

[karmic forum]

Whoops, I accidentally won against a fleet is was testing against

[sterile bluff]

turn off wifi

[karmic forum]

I should have done that

[sterile bluff]

yes you should have 🙂

[zenith tundra]

did u eat -1?

[coral wren]

Hoping shimarin ate -1 because i ate -17 XD

[zenith tundra]

i'm not hoping anything. that's what usually happens when u accidentally win

[sterile bluff]

imagine winning

[karmic forum]

It was just a +10

[eager cedar]

I can’t math

I thought I had +1 but it wasn’t

[karmic forum]

Might be because I haven't sandbagged in a while but the points seem really high this season

[sour oasis]

New blood making standings more volatile.

Or more hackers.

[midnight heron]

nice having to face another case of nonsense rng after all this while

im sure its completely legit to hav my ykkz consistently getting hit by amagi barrage and getting no dmg reduction procs

[sterile bluff]

bro why don't u get better rng?

I tried it and it helps alot!

[midnight heron]

teach me senpai where to download rng

[hot creek]

Do you have the swingset skin?

[midnight heron]

no i only use gems on dock space

got pissed bad tho cuz i faced proper competitive/well positioned fleets and i didnt even hav to reset against them as much as dis guy

[eager cedar]

[sterile bluff]

yuki swing skin improves dodge chance confirmed

[hot creek]

Next time that swingset skin is available, I'm buying it and oathing ykkz-sama. She just swings out of the way and dodges everything

[midnight heron]

he was using amagi mid/ws/hiryuu so he had not as much sniping capability, and i positioned mine (same comp) to snipe his ws yet somehow he always managed to kill 1 of my backlines first in addition to dat ykkz nonsense

🖕 /triggered

[hot creek]

Do you ever have problems with my defense?

[midnight heron]

rarely find u on list tho

[hot creek]

lmao I did not know middle finger was a default emote.

[midnight heron]

[crude mortar]

enty blueray skin clearly had problem

proc skill from giantass picture to small 3cm icon that fade within 0.3s

[midnight heron]

i got a graphics bug after recent update tho not sure if related

[crude mortar]

if I use enty middle or top

cant see shit

and it last like 0.5s

comparation

normal skin skill is over the picture

blueray skin picture over skin

smh

[zenith tundra]

it's not the only ship with that problem. u can't see shit when fdg shoots because sprite is all over the screen

[crude mortar]

potato game

spend money to get worst thing

imagine spending 80$ just to make your ship block your skill activation and wondered if it proc or not all the time

where do I contact customer support

[sterile bluff]

mail them a package

[crude mortar]

imagine spending 80$ for blue ray for the skin with no additional voice line,no l2d with only little skin change that doesn't fullfil armpit fetish with barely noticable protrat different that blocking skill activation and fuck shit up in pvp on the crucial moment and be like did she proc skill or not? as the last ship on the fleet againts enemy last 2 backline

on the top of

she could say owarida but skill doesn't fucking proc

why

[sterile bluff]

⬆️ this is why she is better 😉

[hot creek]

dont use pirate squad on her

and she'll stop owari da'ing while not proccing

[crude mortar]

!

[hot creek]

its the skill on the plane thats causing her to activate her skill line

[midnight heron]

its a jebait

[charred sable]

FdG always covers my entire screen with her kimono outfit

not that I mind

[sterile bluff]

i thought her default art is bigger

[zenith tundra]

if u use sounds if u mute the game it still doesn't help

[inner zenith]

fdg needs better skin :\

[vague token]

sanrui needs any skin

[sterile bluff]

swimsuit skin

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra have a pic with crush dmg planes?

[crude mortar]

french cv

pvp!!

need french buffer and jean bart and cv

here we goa gain

[zenith tundra]

@ripe latch in pins there should be all planes with crash dmg listed but it's from cn. u can check each plane separately in en wiki

for tb u can check right under the message for db

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

someday we'll get barrages listed in a reasonable format

on en wiki

[coral wren]

Feel like this french cv will be not good.
She never launched a single aircraft in battle.

[granite flame]

maybe she will just be graf zep 2.0

[upper sparrow]

pr ship not even get launched you know

irl

[granite flame]

maybe she passes like how sovietskaya did

[coral wren]

But pr ships are based on imagination of what a more advanced ship would be, if they were ever created...and they also take a lot of effort to obtain and lvl them up.

Also, im wondering if there will be like 6 ships that will be revealed.

[granite flame]

unrelated

how good is this skill on intrepid?

Soaring Silver Wings
CN: 翱翔的战斗者
JP: 空駆ける銀翼 After this ship finishes loading an Airstrike: launches an additional Lv.1 (Lv.10) SB2C Helldiver airstrike (DMG is based on the skill's level.) This airstrike inflicts Armor Break to all BBs, BCs, and BBVs hit by it. Armor Break debuff does not stack.

[coral wren]

I dont have intrepid at high enough lvl to give an opinion.

I think i heard essex was better.

[eager cedar]

if the armor break could affect any ship, that be pretty pog but it doesnt so sad

[zenith tundra]

iirc the dmg is worse then normal helldivers. outside of that why bother with armor break in pvp

also since it's dive bombers u need to kill vg before they can even hit backlines

by 2nd airstrike cv already beat almost everything or are dead. armor break at that point is very useless

[upper sparrow]

maybe break effect in AL will be good if it do something like disable the passive skill of enemy ship or smthing like that

[zenith tundra]

armor break in al is pretty useless under most circumstances. from when it was introduced till now never really taken into account as something really useful

[charred sable]

In PvP in almost every other game, armor break is a core PvP debuff that helps you win fights by completely ignoring enemy defence values.
In Azur Lane... lolz...

[vague token]

bad

it definitely should have been 50% activation to match fire

or it should let weapons do damage as if it were heavy OR medium, whichever is higher

aka guns would get bonus vs the medium, torps/planes keep the heavy mods

[ripe latch]

will help on pvp

[light crystal]

New French CV should be SSr aight? Could be good

Main issue, is even if she's individually good, synergy with other ships might not make her ideal in most comps, if at all viable for PvP.

[zenith tundra]

i don't get why people like to speculate without even seeing skills also considering meta is really hard for cv to actually be great in pvp

[light crystal]

Precisely because u dont know skills is why its fun to think if she will be viable for PvP or not

Chances are she won't, but imagine if she actually is

[zenith tundra]

let's imagine she has enty double dmg formie stop-slow and cent barrage, sounds fun

[vague token]

so pr3 cv then

xD

[eager cedar]

i believe Shinano will be op

i hope and pray

[zenith tundra]

i actually want to see a pr cv

curious how they gonna improve them over normal cvs

[coral wren]

Well, i just lost 3 exercises due to not doing the exercises See you guys next pvp season.

[eager cedar]

werent you rushing this season regardless tho

[coral wren]

No one can even use me as food anymore xD

[zenith tundra]

anyone can be food if they try hard enough

[charred sable]

Food

[coral wren]

Im just going to rush to get as much merits as i can.

[eager cedar]

you can still easily gensui if thats what youre worried about

[coral wren]

Gensui?

[eager cedar]

aotn

[zenith tundra]

u should sandbag imo. u won't ever gain anything by rushing but sandbagging still can give u better chances at aotn

[coral wren]

Also, this was on top of 2 more exercises lost this season xD

[eager cedar]

-5

thats not the end of the world tbh

ive been able to get aotn missing 9 with some light sandbagging

[coral wren]

Lets see if i can get aotn.

[ripe latch]

enemy yuki with ihr

[coral wren]

I can get into the current top 10 by 1 point.

Max out at 1348.

[zenith tundra]

u need to sandbag

[coral wren]

Well im assuming i can easily get +35 matches now xD

[zenith tundra]

should be easier with missed attempts then with max score

btw does cn announcement ever indicates the ship rarity or i'm blind and i cannot see/read it

just looking at the pic she looks pretty elite imo but i could be wrong

[vague token]

[ripe latch]

[eager cedar]

[past egret]

Littorio 🥜

Is Littorio memeable for pvp or no

[eager cedar]

for beach skin team sure

why not

[past egret]

[ripe latch]

shield for meme fleet

when u using torps...

After battle starts, deploys 2 shields that can each block up to 1 (2) enemy torpedoes around this ship and the Lead Ship of the Escort Fleet.

[past egret]

Oxytorps

[zenith tundra]

what isn't memeable in pvp

[past egret]

Common rarity

I take that back

[zenith tundra]

lolis for ark

[past egret]

Someone uses Oklahoma here and the loli’s/ark combo that you just said

Was genuinely convinced for awhile that Oklahoma kai was some secret meta ship or something

[ripe latch]

see only alabama oklah and nevada kai

[empty grove]

Is he talking about the true PVP meta

FDG/Georgia/Oklahoma

[eager cedar]

it makes me sad how weak tosa 2nd skill is

[zenith tundra]

her melee barrage is actually not terrible

[eager cedar]

its adequate at best

[zenith tundra]

if vg gets caught in it can do a bit of dmg

but the odds are low

it definitely feels like namagi tosa is a bit better at killing vg then namagi fdg

[eager cedar]

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EYNSJw-U0AAiBvz?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

yep i was right. she is elite

event reward so i would guess point accumulation

[hot creek]

oof. that 99% chance of being trash just got increased to 99.9% chance

[zenith tundra]

more like 100%

[prime panther]

I'm gonna say she's the next power creep

[mint hornet]

Ryuuhou 2.0 for PVE

[zenith tundra]

i bet she will be 100% unusable in pvp

[proper sorrel]

I'm gonna guess it's going to have higher reload

[zenith tundra]

she's ugly and elite 🚮

[ripe latch]

not ssr 🚮

[zenith tundra]

this is pvp channel. how many non sr ships are viable in pvp outside of god juneau

especially for main

[ripe latch]

QE?

[zenith tundra]

if u consider cv that are even less likely to be used it's like a 0% chance for her to be useful

and she is a faction buffer and still no qe team is top tier

[ripe latch]

Hyuuga?

not top tier but

[zenith tundra]

namagi hyuuga was a meme comp used at level 110 that was just rng tbh

[ripe latch]

and see ark royal meme fleet, but need 120

ws kai ark formi

[zenith tundra]

if u can beat meta comps with over 70% wr sure

[crude mortar]

am I too far behind?

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

super behind

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

sandbang time

just left 5

[charred sable]

@crude mortar wtf are with those bonuses

[crude mortar]

ask someone feed u point

[charred sable]

...5 times in a row???

8 times in a row rather given there's 3 more +1 bonuses the next reset

[ionic magnet]

thats the start of gensui rush

[spare iron]

Who are the ships that made a huge splash in the PvP meta dhring their time of release?

[karmic forum]

Tbf that's a really good result from gensui rush

Amagi and Nagato were probably the most impactful releases.

They made the fleet that would define the PvP meta to this day

Wskai was also a big one

[forest lake]

[zenith tundra]

i would add juneau for obvious reasons
also azuma but as a pr ship took a while after release to change meta.
Enty also had a big impact when al was released

washington too changed meta after release in en

[spare iron]

Hmmmm... Did Monarch and KGV made a splash?

[zenith tundra]

post namagi era (at least in en) only ws kai and fdg have been impactful for backlines. formie also but non meta changing. monarch for en came in a after nagato so she never really impacted meta that much since namagi was already a thing

[past egret]

Ayo how the hell do you deal with Hiryuu without Warkai when using meme fleets

[midnight heron]

use ur own hiryuu big🧠

[past egret]

She’s still a tad bit underage to be fighting

[vague token]

just use meme fleet with warkai

like taihou/formi ;))))

team wtf

[ripe latch]

low luck taihou get all shells , no reasons to use her

if ihr+cata/vh but no..

[inner zenith]

[vague token]

if only nagato barrage was actually he so it would get reduced by taihou xD

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

@crude mortar you sleep through a ticket too?

[karmic forum]

Juneau was in the base game right?

Did it take a bit of time before she caught on in PvP?

[shell heron]

Ah those bonuses

that's gensui rush there

[inner zenith]

what to do when u go 2 hours and no one moves )=

[sour oasis]

Refresh or 🙏

[shell heron]

refreshing now? praying they move is a better option now

unless you're fairly sure they won't move

[sour oasis]

Still 2h to refresh. Might stumble upon a laggard

[inner zenith]

i did

but i dont think anyone has runs left

until reset

unless im lucky

[eager cedar]

refresh if you know they are sandbaggers

helps to keep track of who is a sandbagger and who rushes

[sour oasis]

Dammit I just did a last minute refresh to find @shell heron moving up... But not enough for a +1

[shell heron]

Ah, I just finished a minute ago

2 now

[sour oasis]

You were rank 450 and I was 750 and still we were too close.

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

if I moved a little earlier, I would have been r100

[sour oasis]

What rank did you finish at?

[hollow quartz]

Do I wanna snipe Hiryuu with warspite at the start or leave her until the end?

[shell heron]

something like 101

[ripe latch]

2 misses from ws kai skill vs enemy amagi....

[coral wren]

`>2020

still doing enty 1v1s`

[sterile bluff]

what, warkai misses?

that happens?

[ripe latch]

r n g

[sour oasis]

Beaver. Badge. ||Or well-timed lucky Es||

[coral wren]

Anyone know the last two ships in next event (im assuming there are 2 more)
Ships
Bearn
Jeanne
Vauquelin
richelieu
????
????

[zenith tundra]

richelieu is not announced

[frail orbit]

Not yet

Need to wait

Either she's here or not

[vague token]

ships
gun farm

[zenith tundra]

what trash gun will new event even have

if it has 1

[vague token]

did they have a gun larger than 138 xD

although i guess anything higher is cl gun territory

[zenith tundra]

i'm trying to save money and i just had to do a gold azuma research. at this rate i'll have no gold for the event

[coral wren]

I have my mail for the event.

Ive seen people with way more than i do >.>

[zenith tundra]

i use mails. no reason to perma save tbh

[coral wren]

I saved up for richelieu

[eager cedar]

you get gold from tech boxes

[ripe latch]

another usless ship for pvp

[eager cedar]

[coral wren]

I used up my tech boxes to increase fleet power.

[shell heron]

mail is saved for good event farms when something like the 138.6 is avaliable

also having reserve coins is nice

[coral wren]

I have 3.9k gold atm, not including mail

[zenith tundra]

i have 48k in en

i wasted like 20k recently on lb since i was over soft cap

[coral wren]

Ill attempt to get 1 copy of ships i didnt get last iris event (which is most of them), then save up for next event.
Will use oil for 138.6mm farm.

[storm blaze]

lol

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

hit bonus cap

[inner zenith]

ZackFairX | JP-ENToday at 1:35 PM i use mails. no reason to perma save tbh same tbh. i pretty much clear shop w/o having to use mail oil. sometimes i need gold though

[vague token]

weird time for someone to push xD

thought i wasnt getting any bonus this reset

[shell heron]

I'm seeing more memes recently

[vague token]

those are easy to roll over cause no aa

and own noshiro shield

xD

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

[eager cedar]

[shell heron]

oh hi

I pushed already

[ionic magnet]

lol i had cay also a while ago

waited then i realized he cant give bonus

[shell heron]

sure I can, but not when you find me

[ionic magnet]

no i mean i got you when im at 8/10

almost same rank

so i figured youre at 8/10 too

[shell heron]

torp meme is easy to delete with CVs, but I'm using namaspite so yes

[ionic magnet]

meaning no way to get 35 pt gap

[shell heron]

If I ever decide to become food then it will be a +1

[ionic magnet]

[coral wren]

Lol i did one more -1 exercise.
Lost internet for a little bit....had to be last few minutes of exercise time frame xD
Im going to rush. I have like -6 exercises atm. I wont even be able to get to aotn at this rate.

[sour oasis]

I remember two seasons ago I just managed to rush at AotN with -7 exercises on Sunday. It was still incredibly lucky rushing all weekend with other rushers and getting bonuses off them, but it was still AotN. @coral wren

I still can't believe players 250 ranks above me still don't give +1.

[spare iron]

Do you guys use VH Armor Plates in other ships aside from Azuma?

[vague token]

i would personally use it on hiryuu if i used her

or amagi in triple bb

[sour oasis]

Does having VH increase armor make ship more susceptible to AP shells?

[midnight heron]

bruh u take less dmg as heavy armour

ap hits harder on med

[karmic forum]

Less damage from shelling across the board. More damage from planes and torps

[vague token]

going from medium to heavy puts you from uh

130 to 110

16% reduction?

against regular ap

14% for 457, 145->125

[zenith tundra]

u don't ever reach that unless full ap like ws or nagato tosa amagi

on everything else is around 10% overall dr

fire makes it a bit worse

[vague token]

uh it's much more against azuma gun though

100->75

25% there

[zenith tundra]

problem is using it on azuma means juggling equipment every fight

torp switch to rudder

and azuma is not more common in en then torp

[eager cedar]

it be great if there was a feature for equips only for pvp

[zenith tundra]

sure it would be amazing if the game played itself and changed equipment by itself based on opponent and we just look at the screen and see how good we are at doing nothing

[midnight heron]

??? bruh wat u saying lul

i think a lotta games suck by not implementing such a feature tho

no one likes changing gear for pvp ships u use in pve as well

[zenith tundra]

pvp equipment. can't u check ur ship equipment and click on an equip button? or is it too hard to even save a setup and change it before a battle

[midnight heron]

cuz u hav to manually remove gear sometimes

its not just 1 button when u hav limited gear

[zenith tundra]

what are u ever using armor in pve for?

since this was the subject

[midnight heron]

doesnt matter its their playstyle, and we're not limiting it to armour

[zenith tundra]

the only ship to ever use is azuma

[midnight heron]

eg i use beaver on azuma rn for pvp but i use her in pve as well

and it makes my pve fights worse if i dont remove it

[zenith tundra]

u would still need to have equipment to be available to have pvp gear

u would lock it into a pvp setup and not be able to use it for pve

it wouldn't change a thing about reequipping stuff manually

if u don't have enough gear

[midnight heron]

not sure if im getting u but when we say having separate gear loadouts for pvp we usually mean to hav a duplicate set of gear just for it

so we dont hav to share it for pve

[zenith tundra]

u don't have separate gear tho. is not like u can just select a loadout for pvp at random with gear that u don't even have.

[midnight heron]

ofc if u dont hav gear u cant use it

[zenith tundra]

then how do u know if u have it or not if it's not locked

[midnight heron]

like i said its a duplicate set of wat u already hav

u cant duplicate smth dat doesnt exist

[zenith tundra]

sure like a game with no improvements in content in over 2 years (outside of events that is just recycled stuff anyway) will make it so they have to account for ur equip twice just for pvp that has almost no impact in the game

[midnight heron]

dats the hope tho

idk y most games with pvp dont do it

[zenith tundra]

i still don't understand why people even bother using pvp ships in pve. they should be 120 already and u should focus on other ships

[midnight heron]

well ppl like me exist using non120 in pvp

they kinda asked for it tho

just remove xp gain and no one will do it

[crude mortar]

@sour oasis no

[zenith tundra]

no one is stopping u but i don't think they will ever bother improving pvp just because someone is bored of switching equipment

[midnight heron]

np but we just hope it happens

if they dont then too bad

[zenith tundra]

there is game feedback i don't see why pvp channel is used for feature request every time. not the channel for it and no dev reads it anyway

[crude mortar]

go tell them directly

[midnight heron]

maybe cuz ppl tired of their requests getting rejected

[crude mortar]

lets take a look why their request being rejected

if you look to the game from other perspective as game developer

why would you do these small things

the game is dying cuz no new content isn't it

[midnight heron]

improvements can always be made no matter wat

[crude mortar]

would you waste your time doing these small thing over using time to create new content

[zenith tundra]

the game with fleet lock and auto battle already plays itself u just need 3 clicks overall. the only thing u ever do is choose ships and equipment

[crude mortar]

they give you equipment set aren't they

[midnight heron]

ofc ppl want new content we're just wondering y some stuff dont get implemented

[crude mortar]

just 1 click

[midnight heron]

there always exists dis gap between devs and players since most players arent devs

we dont know how hard or ez it is for certain things to get implemented

[crude mortar]

if you are a programmer

you'll know

its not hard

[midnight heron]

even if u r, how do u know the exact way they implement their code

diff data structures exist

[zenith tundra]

problem with new content is how stupid xp curve is in this game locking them from raising level cap without affecting casuals too much. at 130 the xp need would be so much that most people wouldn't reach it anytime soon

[crude mortar]

what language gonna use

java? lua?

python?

or just normal android?

[midnight heron]

thing is we will never know

[crude mortar]

its not hard

then learn to write all of them

then you know its not hard

[midnight heron]

and no i dont wanna get lvl cap increase

[zenith tundra]

there won't ever be new content without new level cap

unless they implement some shitty mechanic like subs that is barely relevant anyway

[midnight heron]

maybe new game modes no one knows

[vague token]

level cap increase would be dumb at this point

the exp formula inflates stupidly fast

[crude mortar]

its not like its hard to get 120 isn't it

[zenith tundra]

they just need to deleta that formula and have same amount of xp per level needed after 120

for backlines isn't for vg is painful

maybe they should just delete stupid flagship bonus and make xp curve less stupid

[vague token]

or, new progression method

xD

[midnight heron]

i actually find it hard cuz it requires fk tons of commitment

[karmic forum]

Even if it was the same exp cap as 120 I think its still a bad idea

They should just use a different resource system for levelling past 120

[crude mortar]

its fine to increase lv cap as long as they know what they are doing

[vague token]

id also be ok with a standard lvl cap if they actually scaled rewards based on difficulty

as opposed to farming easy maps over and over

[zenith tundra]

does this game have difficulty?

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

by difficulty i mean oil cost

[crude mortar]

do you still have oil problem?

[zenith tundra]

it would just mean wasting more oil on ships u don't want/care to use to do w12/13

[vague token]

eg 12-13 should offer drastically more than previous

because you have to burn more

[zenith tundra]

w12 is already best way of leveling if u don't care about oil

i don't see how it changes anything since u would still be stuck in w9 to level 1:1 ships u want

[karmic forum]

Alternatively allow us to use three fleets at once.

Don't scale the W14 bosses as hard but make the mobs harder.

[vague token]

i mean, that's what i mean, the exp ratio from w9 to higher ones is terrible

[crude mortar]

it still

[vague token]

not even counting the horrible gold rewards

[crude mortar]

2 mob fleet 1 boss fleet

isn't it

[zenith tundra]

u can use 45 fleets at once only one ever fights anyway

doesn't matter for xp in the slightest

[crude mortar]

ccccombine fleet

cccopy

[karmic forum]

Introduce a cross-fleet synergy system that gives bonuses to fleets depending on the composition of your other fleets.

[zenith tundra]

fleet tech u mean or just a bad copy?

isn't fleet tech literally that just based on 120 ships and not fleet composition?

[karmic forum]

Similar to CVs and ACV but other hull types give bonuses as well.

I'm adding on to the sortie with 3 fleet example

Or it could be a separate thing

[zenith tundra]

airspace control is a pain tbh. u are forced to use cv for no reason most of the time

[karmic forum]

Just a way to get more stats and get people to think more about fleet composition

It would be solely based on the ships you bring out for sortie so not like fleet tech.

The simplest solution would be to just increase the level cap though

[zenith tundra]

idk why u would want to be even more restricted on what u want to bring tbh

already hm is stupid

[vague token]

i mean if they up the difficulty it's going to get that way

[karmic forum]

Its not a restriction but rather giving people more options

[vague token]

we need a flexible system to give more bonuses to bad ships than good ships

[karmic forum]

Each hull type gives a different bonus and it could scale off of how many you can stack.

So you can't have all of the bonuses but at least there won't be a "useless" hull type anymore

[zenith tundra]

giving more options means u can choose based on what the ship does not on the ship type for specific bonuses

[karmic forum]

I'm just spitballing ideas that probably won't work.

[zenith tundra]

choosing based on hull restricts u. it doesn't give u more options

that's why acv is bad

[karmic forum]

Ultimately I agree

Its probably impossible to balance it to make all hull types equally good

[zenith tundra]

u are forced into cv even if they might not be useful in that specific content

[karmic forum]

So you'll be restricted in the end anyways

[vague token]

acv should have been an in battle thing

eg planes dont suicide

[karmic forum]

ACV should have never been added

[vague token]

planes sit on the map doing dps until out of resource

like the siren helicopters

thus "acv" is natural

[zenith tundra]

considering how bad cv are usually either acv or rebalance cv class all together

[vague token]

whoever controls the airspace already does dps

because you wiped out their planes

[zenith tundra]

ofc setting up some buffs is much easier then try and rebalance cv and that's why we have acv

[vague token]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

i wish they never bothered adding negative acv

i don't think it does anything other then limiting player choices

[vague token]

yeah

[past egret]

I will sell my soul for her to be pvp viable

[crude mortar]

it wont happen

[ionic magnet]

just slap her with namagi

thats easy

[karmic forum]

It might happen you never know

[ionic magnet]

[crude mortar]

triple all french ship shelling speed

this is all she need

instant delete whole vg first 2s

[eager cedar]

at least give her something interesting other than a generic barrage skill

[crude mortar]

triple jean bart shelling speed thx

and she viable in pvp

[vague token]

"triple shelling speed"

ok so we made her buff the shell speed

through the air

honestly wouldnt even be bad

[crude mortar]

[vague token]

JB with triple shell move speed buff

wouldnt be bad

xD

[crude mortar]

kill their whole vs first 2s

cuz why not

*vg

[past egret]

Gascogne Jean Riche mega shelling fleet

[vague token]

and of course no buffs for their single cv

;)

bb meta only

[past egret]

Unless their CV gets the most random skill

And is good alone like Hiryuu

[vague token]

what is the history of the french cv

[past egret]

“Upon taking lethal damage, launch 2 additional Ariel barrages that deal bonus damage on top of normal damage”

Didn’t exist

Was being built

[zenith tundra]

considering how bad french bb are in pvp i wouldn't expect much. plus unless for some reason richelieu actally buffs herself the lack of synergies will kill her like georgia for viability

[humble geyser]

Did Exist

She was launched and everything

Just didnt do anything cause France died lmao

Ended up being turned into like a plane support ship
Not you, sorry lol
was addressing Washington's claim

She might be a CVL in AL due to like only having fighters and torp bombers irl and having a very low plane count

Either Webio? or a twitter post for CN

I know Bearn was posted by a weird twitter account cause it was more of a "Leak" post and not from Yostar/the CN publisher

I'd assume the same for Richy but I havent seen it myself

[zenith tundra]

https://www.weibo.com/azurlane?is_all=1

[frail orbit]

Surcouf

[eager cedar]

im just patiently waiting till the day subs get implemented into pvp because reasons

[karmic forum]

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[ionic magnet]

AL going full degen with these new swimsuits

[vague token]

at least that actually feels like surcouf

[crude mortar]

[forest lake]

at least that actually feels like surcouf

[upper sparrow]

damn that surcouf skin

[crude mortar]

get removed from chinese client within 4day again

*store

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

🍫

[upper sparrow]

what a cultured man

[naive dome]

i want to make a defense fleet that's easily beatable, but can stall for a long time. What ship should I use?

[keen sparrow]

suruga,amagi,x

[upper sparrow]

suruga amagi formidable for damage reduction memes

@naive dome slap eldridge

[naive dome]

thanks

[keen sparrow]

the important is

bring elixer

it can stall for a while

[naive dome]

who's elixer?

[keen sparrow]

suruga,amagi, x
x,juneau,nanoda

[upper sparrow]

but if u bring eldridge with her junie will refuse to die tho

[keen sparrow]

elixer is juneau

juneau nid die in gud timing for backline to more stall

ultimate stall is suruga,amagi,fdg. but not sure it can ez beat or not since fdg have toons of hp

[crude mortar]

[small cypress]

My amagi doesn't hit like warspite kai

What's the amagi purpose in pvp?

Cus I equiped her the white shell

[ripe latch]

white usless on amagi

[small cypress]

It is?

why?

[ripe latch]

situation item , just for dmg on offensive , but vs ws kai or other ihr or double sg better

[small cypress]

sg?

The item for hit and eva?

[ripe latch]

sg radar

check last pin

[small cypress]

what's the last?

[ripe latch]

2x sg > 1 sg + white

[small cypress]

So, what's the best one?

[ripe latch]

ihr + sg

if not have ihr - double sg

[small cypress]

ihr?

double sg?

/ihr

.-.

[ripe latch]

Improved Hydraulic Rudder

[whole terrace]

@small cypress https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Improved_Hydraulic_Rudder https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/SG_Radar#Type_3

[small cypress]

I see

ty

[crude mortar]

is it just me

or I cant do x10 without eating -1

[ripe latch]

[keen sparrow]

sg + rudder is best if dnt have armor n hpfcr

[ripe latch]

[keen sparrow]

mk46 on queen is wasted 90% of her salvo is only go water

[eager cedar]

Gun goes brr

[crude mortar]

4 bonus

BUT I LOSE 1

NEED 10BONUS TO REPLACE MY 1 LOSE

FK

[eager cedar]

This is a very good reset for me

Hit all rushers

[ripe latch]

strats

[shell heron]

we've been meming about viable torp meme

people are picking up on it

[crude mortar]

low lvl

[sterile bluff]

twerpmeme without aya?

that's sacrilege

[ripe latch]

ayaya low hp

[proper sorrel]

ayaya glass

[sterile bluff]

pffffff

we're meming anyways

ya gotta go full meme

[proper sorrel]

well at least make it practical

[sterile bluff]

tbh aya isn't that squishy

cuz high eva

just put her in middle

[ripe latch]

my sendai say hello you eva

[sterile bluff]

that's illegal

[ripe latch]

if u want full meme torp team - 3xsakura gold , 5-8k crits

with double rainbow - 8-10k

but need pretty luck that they get hit

...

[light crystal]

Oh god indeed. My Vg was dead and only WK full HP and Amagi with like 5% HP were alive when I looked (Wasn't paying attention). Interestingly MVP'd too. Must've torped some shit on her way to dying lol

[sterile bluff]

not mvp'ing

what is this nonsense

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

I swear I saw Donald Trump with a score of 1053 in Avrora's top 100. And then I didn't.

But hey, a meme within a meme (think they used a user-rename on themselves)
Think anyone will notice anything different about their defense fleet?

[past egret]

Warspite

[granite flame]

https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1262533428442017795

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POG

IT WASNT FORGOTTEN

WE HAVE NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN

to bad its only a pvp update for the pvp shop

[shell heron]

waiting on that HSFCR to be added to merit shop

[eager cedar]

Albacore cause loli bait

[ionic magnet]

yes more

[karmic forum]

I wonder if there will be noticeably more people doing PvP for albacore now

[shell heron]

That would be nice

we'll get more food

[abstract cypress]

but only 1

need more lolis ship

[vague token]

gear first

it's weird to add a sub that cant even contribute to pvp

xD

[abstract cypress]

its reward, nothin weird

[keen sparrow]

finaly something gud but only that jailbait add?

hpfcr n armor add to merit shop pls

soon sub can do something at pvp fight more torpedo in screen

[spare iron]

Do you guys place your best boat in the defence fleet?

[inner zenith]

Missed 5 runs because work too busy ):

[vague token]

i put my fire meme team

[spare iron]

Mind if i copy it?

[vague token]

go ahead

lemme get it

https://gyazo.com/0ad2898eeb8bd058dd48a4b2ca16b4cd

team fire

[ionic magnet]

copying meme fleet?

[keen sparrow]

i tot kiro is torp rain meme

[vague token]

what

no?

i was thinking about that one for a bit with amagi/bbkaga/suruga

might give it a try again once tosa is 120

swap kaga for her

really wish bremerton special barrage burned

=/////

[ionic magnet]

so why is juneau there

[vague token]

need time to tick

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

who else is gonna give time for ticks

[ionic magnet]

thats some next level memes

[vague token]

if base hp was higher id get rid of her

xD

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

we'd probably need like another 2x to warrant dots being built around

instead of just bonus

plus the last burn skill for vanguard is just atago

xD

but eww atago

[ionic magnet]

that and some increase proc chance

atago

[vague token]

oh i guess technically there are negative burn skills in vanguard

but yeah, atago

she has 0 utility also

at least chap brings hit rate vs dd

so you can burn ykkz