pvp

[crude mortar]

when I start playing the game and read this skill

it looks good

until I learn

that baltimore double double attack from mgm+1 every single hit

[zenith tundra]

it's 3/10 of a mgm

[crude mortar]

portland do double attack

every single hit

with disaster 33evasion 3.8k hp

[upper sparrow]

[ripe latch]

she can tank 10 chapter , after - no

[crude mortar]

and she cost alot of oil

[zenith tundra]

the only ca with evasion at level 100 is portland

[crude mortar]

its a bait

^

[ripe latch]

welp , after release nagato ppl put atago and takao on pvp

[zenith tundra]

[crude mortar]

those were ship from old age

then look at ship nowaday

look at this monstrosity

[zenith tundra]

they still work for waifu meta

[crude mortar]

what is the flaw of this ship anyway

[zenith tundra]

16 oil

[crude mortar]

and it ijn

it get 10% extra FP and 20% accuracy

[zenith tundra]

costs more then every other ship but 5

[crude mortar]

5 oil

will you use this ship outside pvp

will you use this ship on mob fleet?

[zenith tundra]

tbh i would use azuma anywhere if i need to level up

[ionic magnet]

what is the flaw of this ship anyway
shes not a loli

[crude mortar]

[upper sparrow]

azuma-chan when

[zenith tundra]

plz no

[upper sparrow]

we need a loli version of pr ship except kitakaze

[zenith tundra]

how about no more loli ships

[ionic magnet]

you want AL to shut down?

[upper sparrow]

well yeah, loli ship exist for memes only kek, they not even give fleet tech

[zenith tundra]

i'm fine with new loli ships just not a loli version of every ship that already exist

[ionic magnet]

when was CN anniv again

[zenith tundra]

soonish

[ionic magnet]

maybe theyll announce pr3 there

[ripe latch]

bruh , farm again

[zenith tundra]

more like need another 210 dr bps for fate 5

[crude mortar]

i like how they create ship this game

ijn had nagato azuma

kms had bismarck? fdg

hms had manything

but uss had one thing that truely matter

[ripe latch]

german gun stolen by usa

[inner zenith]

Give more bache type ships

[zenith tundra]

i have a feeling that i won't have any oil left if i farm daily 30min d2

for mle

and btw siren farm doesn't suck. already got 4 bps

[crude mortar]

today 4bps?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[crude mortar]

30min?

[zenith tundra]

from 9/15 to 13/15

[crude mortar]

!

[zenith tundra]

nah jp is up from 5hr ago

[crude mortar]

oh ok

how many key you spend

im worried about the key more than oil

[zenith tundra]

11 only to safe 3*

and another 3 siren farm only

i was able to do 7 runs of d2 sirens thanks to ibuki

with 1 key

[ripe latch]

why duke on special?

[zenith tundra]

[whole terrace]

wait what when did they announce ch10 hard mode?

[zenith tundra]

she should go to heavy after the rate up i guess

[ripe latch]

they put on special so that ppl cannot get her

[zenith tundra]

i haven't heard anything about w10hm en

[whole terrace]

well er its there

[zenith tundra]

en patch notes

[ripe latch]

en

[zenith tundra]

wow stella didn't even 3* all w10 maps

i have to do that 1st

[whole terrace]

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

can't wait to have fun in w10. i haven't played it from after i got jinstuu 1 year and almost 6 months ago

[ripe latch]

but her ez to get

2bb's

kek

[zenith tundra]

now they announce it

after patch was done

[ripe latch]

refresh not give me siren...

4 place difference

[crude mortar]

is server up yet

[zenith tundra]

trying to get someone in list is actually hard

servers are up from a while ago

[crude mortar]

kk thx

[ripe latch]

found him after 3h

[zenith tundra]

???

[ripe latch]

f

[zenith tundra]

here we go 30hr maint

[ripe latch]

0/10

@zenith tundra u clean 5 exer?

[ionic magnet]

rollback my 100 cubes

[zenith tundra]

i was at 0/10 before maint

[ionic magnet]

🚮

[zenith tundra]

i want my cube back

[ripe latch]

@ionic magnet nothing?

[zenith tundra]

i got a bulldog

[karmic forum]

Same

[ionic magnet]

got 7 ssrs but no swiftsure

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

[ripe latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/528197562998718474/710515809151352852/EUDhtgtXgAAt4QP.jpeg?width=995&height=553

[karmic forum]

You're in luck because you have a reroll now

[elder crane]

3 Sandy and 1 each of ykkz and Monty

[light crystal]

Us sandbaggers might lose the bet then lmao

[karmic forum]

If it's a rollback then people who rush might be up 5 runs

I doubt maint will go past reset

[elder crane]

I doubt it's a rollback

[ionic magnet]

i was about to rush too cos sleepy

[shell heron]

there's still time before next reset

[silent ocean]

should have did pvp well rip

[zenith tundra]

some people had rollbacks

[karmic forum]

They were talking about a rollback

Because people rolled with DoY not being in the pool

[ripe latch]

welp , if rollback someone get again 7 ssr and 0 swift

[ionic magnet]

[silent ocean]

O.o

[zenith tundra]

lol

rip people

trying for doy

[light crystal]

If we lose, then its fine. That "get fucked nerds" moment would apply

[ionic magnet]

if rollback ill just keep my cubes ty

[ripe latch]

guy spam 300 coubs and get 7 victor , 0 duke

[zenith tundra]

now we all get 20 cubes and everyone is happy

[silent ocean]

if you get rolled back dont you get the ships in the mail and the cubes like what they did back for that event with intrpid brem and reno?

[elder crane]

probably

Maybe someone mad they didn't get swiftsure and DDoS server for rollback

[zenith tundra]

i wish i could do that

[past egret]

-5 matches INCOMING

[shell heron]

Someone prob did that with the last USS event

[light crystal]

Thats y its sometimes good to b chill right after a long maint

[keen sparrow]

bug match incoming

[silent ocean]

honestly hope not thats super petty since they give us so much

[keen sparrow]

[zenith tundra]

i was farming 3* w10

[ripe latch]

@past egret so close to u , f

[karmic forum]

Same

[light crystal]

Wait to see if theyre bugs b4 doing shit

[past egret]

@ripe latch there is still hope

[ripe latch]

but i do 5 exer

[elder crane]

That's why I was against how they handled rollbacks

[keen sparrow]

after mt extra 5tix more

[karmic forum]

They don't really care about PvP anymore

[shell heron]

inb4 rollbacks happen and people get extra matches again

[light crystal]

Well, worst case scenario i lose 3 matchrs, so eh

[karmic forum]

Last time rollbacks happened PvP was mega scuffed

[shell heron]

there goes my good start, time to slack

[past egret]

There it is the emergency maintenance announcement

[keen sparrow]

should do 10 match like that time

[past egret]

Glad I full rushed last night

[safe meteor]

oh dear, i still need to do my 5 games

[karmic forum]

You needed to have rushed 5 at the start of the maint

Going to 0/10 won't matter unless maint goes past reset

[light crystal]

The next 4 hours gonna b lit

[safe meteor]

i always start with commissions, research, refill food, skill up with book after maintenance

[shell heron]

it was interesting last time. I think people rushed their matches, but got them back anyways before E-maintenance hit

[ionic magnet]

how long does it take to add DoY to build pool

[safe meteor]

that the reason for this maintenance eh?

[karmic forum]

They got their runs back but their score wasn't reset

So they were essentially 5 matches ahead

[light crystal]

I hope maint runs full 12h. I like getting fucked for sandbagging under this scenario, cuz i half expected it anyway

[ionic magnet]

yea somehow they forgot to add a rate up ship LOL

[keen sparrow]

free match

[karmic forum]

I remember one guy ended up being 200 pts ahead of everyone because he kept getting rolled back

[narrow meadow]

rollback then?

[past egret]

@karmic forum well shit

That’s assuming it goes past 2 PM

[safe meteor]

i hope it doesnt take longer than 3 hours

[narrow meadow]

smh I already whaled out and they do this to me,,,,

[zenith tundra]

that was hilarious how that guy had so much advantage

[safe meteor]

lvl 92 still on the easy mission, thats surprising

[past egret]

If I’m at 0/10 and it goes past 2 I’d be at 10/10 matches

[karmic forum]

Eventually he missed a few and fell out of the leaderboards

[past egret]

Or no?

@zenith tundra what’s the story

[elder crane]

Yeah, that's always the funny part

[light crystal]

Who ever gets that big a lead is gonna eat a lot if 9's anyway

[shell heron]

oh yea that guy

[elder crane]

gets like 150-200 extra pts
not even leaderboard at end of season

[shell heron]

didn't know how to minimize the amount of +9s

[ionic magnet]

D*rkova?

[zenith tundra]

u'll be at 10/10 in 9:10 hours with another 6hr to use them

[safe meteor]

anyone know when you start getting +9, +10 and +11 at the higher ranks?

how much difference do you need to have?

[light crystal]

Last time i lost 4 matches cuz of rollback bs, still ended at second place eos 5 mins lmao

[past egret]

35 point difference

[ripe latch]

rip avrora after maintenance

[past egret]

Always

[shell heron]

it's still the same 35 threshold for +1

[safe meteor]

35 point diff for +11, alright

[shell heron]

-1 is below you

[safe meteor]

i see

[past egret]

35 point difference for +1

70 for +2

Etc

Right?

[shell heron]

beyond that, I don't think people tested how much is needed for -2

[crude mortar]

AVRORA MAINT AGAIN?

[zenith tundra]

it would be interesting to find out threshold for -2

[crude mortar]

been loading this hit

for so long

[past egret]

Why do you use -2?

[crude mortar]

im glad im going for 0/10

[safe meteor]

i dont even know if the game gives you an enemy that is that far below you?

[shell heron]

yes the 35 points +1 is linear

[past egret]

Instead of +

[crude mortar]

huehuehuehue

[zenith tundra]

because u have to eat - eventually

[light crystal]

Well time to take a nap and wish for the best then

[zenith tundra]

or most likely when pushing end season

[shell heron]

usually around then is when +9s and the rare +8 happens

[ripe latch]

6h maintenance

[shell heron]

still won't surpass that 24hr+ maintenance

[safe meteor]

nooooo

[shell heron]

we did it. we surpassed FGO

[safe meteor]

no longer than 3 hours plz

[zenith tundra]

i can wait 9 hours

[safe meteor]

also, it takes that long to change one ship to a diff pool?

[ripe latch]

one kun put bb on another pool and here we go

[zenith tundra]

spagetti code migth be actually hard

[keen sparrow]

well sometime rng can be bad at end of season nid to eat +9 if no refresh

this MT is just like that day

[shell heron]

I ate multiple +9s last season. it costed me r3

[keen sparrow]

is sleep time too

[zenith tundra]

i haven't slept in 26hrs

[crude mortar]

what is est

for server

[keen sparrow]

sasuga zack

[zenith tundra]

trying to change going to sleep at 10am

[ripe latch]

@zenith tundra imagine not sleep and farm gun

[safe meteor]

i hear some people work 24 hours, sleep 12 hours straight after

[crude mortar]

zack them:sleep is overrated
zack last week:I rather sleep
zack now:I havn't sleep for 26 hour

this is an example of character development

*then

[buoyant parrot]

X___x

[ripe latch]

u can try farm 1:1 and not sleep too

[zenith tundra]

i'll got to be eventually... is only 7pm now

[buoyant parrot]

why is teh server still down?

X__x

[zenith tundra]

doy not in pool

[buoyant parrot]

oh

[zenith tundra]

with rate up

[buoyant parrot]

-__-

[ripe latch]

[karmic forum]

I should have tried rolling for Swifty as soon as I heard there would be a rollback

[ripe latch]

ppl send money to coubs and 0 ssr

[buoyant parrot]

yeah you could have gotten a compensation

in this game when devs messed up we benefit

I hope everyday they mess up the server

[zenith tundra]

how about people who build for doy and got fucked

[buoyant parrot]

cucked to be them~

😂

[shell heron]

I should have been on right after maint was initially over

[zenith tundra]

would've actually rushed tho?

[karmic forum]

I was actually in the middle of rushing when I got kicked out

[shell heron]

oh yea, the other reason why the ladder was so scuffed last time

rushers got +5 matches and we lost 5 matches

or was it 10

[zenith tundra]

some got a lot more then +5

[karmic forum]

Its probably 5

[ripe latch]

1k sandbaggers after maint

[karmic forum]

If they rollback, then everyone will get 5 matches back

People who rushed are 5 up

As long as the maint doesn't last till the next reset thats all you're losing

[zenith tundra]

how many did u rush?

that's actually scary

[karmic forum]

Either 3 or 4 depending on if the last match went through

I was distracted from W10 HM

Which was also quite the surprise

[zenith tundra]

it wasn't in the patch notes

since en patch notes are a joke

[karmic forum]

My oil is not ready for W10 HM

[zenith tundra]

i spent 6k oil on food before i found out about w10hm

[shell heron]

oh, I think game is up again

[ripe latch]

just start w10 and server crash only boss left

[karmic forum]

Time to see if there was a rollback

[shell heron]

apparently no

[zenith tundra]

if u rolled back and kept ur score is rip season for top1

[karmic forum]

PvP scores are unchanged thankfully

[ripe latch]

We have applied the hotfix and sincerely ask for your forgiveness.

[zenith tundra]

too bad

[shell heron]

wow PR2 C projects are garbage

I knew that but I was broke

[karmic forum]

Purple is fine if I'm about to go to sleep

Gold takes a bit longer but its still worth it before sleep if there aren't any better ones

Blue is utter trash though

Never take it

[zenith tundra]

gold is not bad for equip

[elder crane]

Gold isn't worth it unless you're afk for > 9 H

[karmic forum]

I've gotten stuff like 457 bps from it before

[elder crane]

you're better off taking some decent short project, then starting another one when you come back

the issue is the 12H timer is well beyond what most people afk for

and all the time spent doing a C project when not afk is such a waste

[karmic forum]

In general, I avoid C

[elder crane]

ofc if you aren't even offered a decent project,

[shell heron]

I would have taken any PR2 blue face project over 8hr C

but it was all 6 cubes and trash ones

[zenith tundra]

i take those even before going to bed over c

[elder crane]

6 cube > C, yep
unless I'm going to sleep

6 cube > 12H C even if I'm going to sleep

[buoyant parrot]

done with Swiftsure after 290 Coobs

[karmic forum]

Whoops I forgot to equip minne for W10

[shell heron]

does sound good, but old habits of hoarding cubes is still with me

[zenith tundra]

w10 hurts too much

[karmic forum]

I'm using Gascan Ryuuhou Minner

Will report back on whether it can 3*

[elder crane]

Oh, did we get ch 10 HM?

[karmic forum]

Yeah

[zenith tundra]

tosa ryuuhou essex roon

[karmic forum]

It was stealth added

[zenith tundra]

none over 110

it was notice after maint

[elder crane]

I suppose I'll use my FdG for this

[zenith tundra]

i use fdg for bosses

[shell heron]

hmmm, ok. guess I got that to do today

[zenith tundra]

but that was boss only hm

[elder crane]

2 yukikaze now

[zenith tundra]

how much is the compensation? didn't check it

[narrow meadow]

10 special rolls worth of supplies

10 QF 20 gems 15k coins

[zenith tundra]

just as predicted 20 cubes

[ripe latch]

20 10 15k

[karmic forum]

I guess I'm glad I didn't roll now

[buoyant parrot]

that ate a chunk of my coobs stockpile, 290 for Swiftsure... Not worth it -_-

[karmic forum]

I don't have any immediate need for swiftsure

[zenith tundra]

she wasn't rate up anyway

[karmic forum]

I just do dailies and hope I'll get her eventually

[buoyant parrot]

well its good I had her out of my "TO DO" list....

[shell heron]

Question. Which fleet here is better?

[narrow meadow]

dunkerque cuter

[karmic forum]

[buoyant parrot]

I want to drown in Zara

[zenith tundra]

that vg should be scrapped

[shell heron]

[sour oasis]

Where is Swiftsure, light? And no rate up? 🇾

[zenith tundra]

yes and yes

[karmic forum]

Light, her rate is roughly 1%

[buoyant parrot]

this is to exaust all your coobs now so you charge next BIG EVENT

:)

[sour oasis]

I'm going to assume she's too new to be in Tartu event mix. That's just cruel.

[karmic forum]

Well shit

[zenith tundra]

i wish i had cubes to exhaust in the 1st place

[karmic forum]

It seems like my boss fleet can't kill the boss

I forgot that its two DDs

[ripe latch]

3bb , 1min 10-4h

think formi need

that eva..

[sour oasis]

Swiftsure event was in Winter's Crown, so no rate up in the future? (More sadness)

[zenith tundra]

she wasn't in any event

she just is added at the same time as wc ships for reasons

[sour oasis]

Huh. So she's just a random chaser Build?

(Not even in CN or JP?)

[zenith tundra]

it was same for jp/cn

added with wc ships

[karmic forum]

tfw I'm forced to manual

[zenith tundra]

but she has no relation with exception of being a hms ship

[buoyant parrot]

oooh CH10 looks fun

[karmic forum]

Its been so long since I've done ch10

[zenith tundra]

ch 10 normal is a pain

[karmic forum]

I forgot that 10-1 had the pain train for example

[zenith tundra]

can't wait for 10-3 hm to delete my vg for fun

[karmic forum]

Whats with the 10-3 boss?

[zenith tundra]

nanoda

torp everywhere and they hurt

[karmic forum]

Oh is that the one with the two BBs that hang back?

[zenith tundra]

maybe they are borked like sendai ones and do no dmg to heavy... i guess it's worth a try

yes

[ionic magnet]

so no rollback eh

and only 20 cubes compensation

[karmic forum]

I guess I'll use a CV comp for that one

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Or maybe just pack damage on the vangaurd

[buoyant parrot]

wtf... I overkilled CH10

this was supposed to be easy

I mean hard

[hot creek]

My wifi is down, and I havent been able to downloaded the update yet. How covenient

[zenith tundra]

🇫

[buoyant parrot]

Grandpa players will Find CH13 more annoying than this CH10

[karmic forum]

Ch11 HM is the real hard one I've heard

[zenith tundra]

u just use ryuuhou and fe and u are set

[hot creek]

Time to see how slow mcdonalds/starbucks wifi is.

[inner zenith]

lmaooo

[buoyant parrot]

FENCE?!

how dare he!

[crude mortar]

ima break this fleet within 5 attemp

[zenith tundra]

shouldn't really take more then 1 reset if u mirror it

[buoyant parrot]

but its Dev 30

that is stronk

yeah

mirror it

[crude mortar]

my joke fleet

[ionic magnet]

time to rush
too sleepy
gl

[sour oasis]

Donald Trump. Best troll.

[zenith tundra]

love this

[buoyant parrot]

yeah before he used to name his WASDA Fleet WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLL

[crude mortar]

my enty

lucky E

proc

1s too fast

zzz

like

[ripe latch]

[crude mortar]

all miss

except

last 3 torp

asdasdsdaf

[karmic forum]

So you took the D?

[crude mortar]

I shouldn't use

homing

at all

proc to ofast

asdzxvf

d

D

[buoyant parrot]

D:

[crude mortar]

IT OVER

[sour oasis]

Before maintenance, top 3 pvp were all >875. That's a little above normal luck.

[buoyant parrot]

you pushed it too hard

[karmic forum]

Might have been sandbaggers rolling to 0/10

I don't blame them

[zenith tundra]

i was rank 6 and missed 1 attempt

plus trash season

[crude mortar]

IT WAS ALL MISS EXCEPT THE TORP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJJcJC7oXTI&feature=youtu.be

[frail orbit]

2020 and still using Big E

[buoyant parrot]

😂

[frail orbit]

[sour oasis]

[crude mortar]

IM NEVER USING HOMING BEACON

ON ENTY

AGAIN

[buoyant parrot]

oh and you're not using the FAKKYU skins that's why you LOST!

[frail orbit]

[zenith tundra]

sniping amagi doesn't help also

[buoyant parrot]

you should have snipe Hiryuu instead

[crude mortar]

usually my vg red health could beat full hp hiryu

[buoyant parrot]

Warkai is Anti Hiryu

[crude mortar]

need replace this

im lvling amagi atm

[buoyant parrot]

and you should have put EQ in the middle to maximize Warkai

[crude mortar]

it 4v5 and 1 cheerleader

[buoyant parrot]

well assuming you're still using EQ

[crude mortar]

*5v6

[ripe latch]

put own hiryuu and win

[buoyant parrot]

That's Blasphemy to the QUEEN!

though I approve it

xD

ikr

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze torp aren't borked... they do 500 dmg to heavy azuma

actually knows unlike sendai

[golden fable]

Interesting PvP screenshot you got there, Zack

[zenith tundra]

[crude mortar]

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

how about warning every meme screenshot too

i'm kind of tired of those

[coral wren]

im using jintsuu / noshi / ayaya. who should lead? should i use pearl? if i use pearl, on who?

[zenith tundra]

should be noshiro lead. noshiro can tank more so less chances of her sinking early

i'm pretty sure u can use pearl on aya too. have noshiro bulge oxy/boiler lead

[coral wren]

thx

[zenith tundra]

anyway in that situation u'd want pearl on the 1st to die but i'm not sure which one dies 1st since i don't use torp

[coral wren]

should be ayaya but im thinking like

wouldnt i want ayaya to have 2 oxy so she has more of a purpose?

[zenith tundra]

i would try and keep her alive to 2nd wave. if she reaches 2nd wave with 2 oxy it should be fine

[coral wren]

ahh so i need to test if she can shoot twice.

[crude mortar]

isn'y first torp ayanami just as good as yukikaze

and ayanami die before 2nd torp anyway

[zenith tundra]

yeah if she doesn't survive to 2nd there are better choices then aya since 1st is never boosted by her skill

[crude mortar]

xpvp

its like what

6k?

5k?

[elder crane]

less than 5k, yep

[zenith tundra]

4.6k

[elder crane]

4.5k-ish

[crude mortar]

ayanami just faster than yukikaze and dont need boiler but thats it

[elder crane]

4.7 or 4.8k with oath stats, I think

I'd actually lead with Jintsuu, bulge engine probably?
then Aya with, probably pearl oxy?
then Noshiro, probably with rudder/toolbox/engine+oxytorp

[crude mortar]

from my experience rudder works better for me

[elder crane]

oh, Jint needs to be alive for buff as well, keep forgetting that

Noshiro lead then

[zenith tundra]

yeah that was what i was thinking too. keeping them alive as long as possible for buffs

[crude mortar]

noshiro also need to be alive

[elder crane]

Jint buff is more impactful

[crude mortar]

change ayanami to yukikaze and use yukikaze tank

[zenith tundra]

[elder crane]

Yukikaze tank is pepega af

tank spot takes a lot of fire from enemy vanguard, which has high hit stat

Yukikaze is really only super tanky vs main fleet damage

[crude mortar]

[elder crane]

on that note
Rudder is better vs [non-nagato IJN and not warkai] or people who don't put +hit on their ships

tbf that's most people

[coral wren]

nah i dont want my fleet adjusted against those people they dont exist in my list

[elder crane]

but vs actually-good-Nagato setups, Rudder on Noshiro is no better than a toolbox

[coral wren]

[elder crane]

and I'd much rather take an engine or maybe even a fire ext than a toolbox, in general
or pearl obviously

[coral wren]

pearl on noshiro?

[elder crane]

vs 145 hit 50 luck

Nagato or Amagi with SG and Staag under Nagato buff both reach around there

Warkai is around there too

Hiryuu, FdG will obviously be lower
as would Amagi without Nagato
Vanguard ofc is much higher

[upper sparrow]

pearl on noshiro is normal

definitely good

[elder crane]

Depends on the team

on a Jint Aya Noshiro team, no

[upper sparrow]

well nah

[elder crane]

on, say, Juneau Azuma Noshiro, Jun ykkz Noshiro, or Noshiro Azuma ykkz, sure

[upper sparrow]

combined with classic ykkz-junie at least

noshiro pearl

is azuma dev20 with double toolbox a good meme? considering she barely do any good damage at her dev level

[zenith tundra]

toolboxes are a meme on azuma

[inner zenith]

might as well use no aux

[upper sparrow]

[zenith tundra]

i would meme with double gyro

speedy azuma

[upper sparrow]

why not gyro with boiler tho

[zenith tundra]

if u want a bad meme sure

[elder crane]

dev 20 azuma does pretty good damage already

[proper sorrel]

RIP fire emblem

[elder crane]

4 MG salvos+barrage and that's like 1/3 of the HP average on every vanguard

in 12 s

[proper sorrel]

i killed like 2 apps today to update this stupid thing

[zenith tundra]

al devs

i was reading in gph that the update required 10gb free space

[proper sorrel]

rough on my tablet

oh good i was able to retrieve my account

[eager cedar]

@karmic forum 100% for both

[light crystal]

Thats some dedication ♿

[sour oasis]

🐳 🐳

Also, 842 vs 899 (57 difference) got a +2.
874 va 939 (65 difference) got a +2

[light crystal]

Like 50% of my PvE loses are when I do the Chip daily with the wrong ship (CV/BB), and only find out after the battle is lost cuz I wasn't paying enough attention lmao

[sour oasis]

Also the external display is more accurate due to the 2nd decimal place.

[light crystal]

U mean the one on the Chat? Yeah

[ripe latch]

noshi yuki juneau everywhere

[midnight heron]

gotta love it when ppl use jun with eldridge so their entire backline dies and jun still alive

[ripe latch]

smart ppl

[shell heron]

Hp pot tend to outlive everyone occasionally regardless

Oh hey. I hit 1m merits

That be 50 eldie dupes

[karmic forum]

That would be one way to flex your PvP accumen

[midnight heron]

😓

time for azuma to get 1 shot

[empty grove]

This game is a meme

[eager cedar]

[vague token]

accept the meme within

[sour oasis]

[hot creek]

replace Aya with Sendai

[proper sorrel]

warkai vs hiryuu in pvp 1 on 1

who should win

[karmic forum]

Someone fund it

[proper sorrel]

wait stupid question

[karmic forum]

Probably hiryuu though

[proper sorrel]

in general, in pvp, hiryuu vs warspite

[runic sleet]

Did they patch the Nagato bug?

[shell heron]

Im willing to bet 9/10 times warspite

Unless one hiryuu airstrike can takeout most of warspite's hp

[karmic forum]

Can warspite survive two airstrikes?

[shell heron]

Yes they patched the nagato bug

[karmic forum]

Actually maybe she can

Hiryuu is unbuffed

[ionic magnet]

hiryuu airstrike w/o nagato buff is

[empty grove]

[vague token]

2 ryuusei strikes might kill

[ionic magnet]

but then again shes p much guaranteed to launch 3 strikes

[vague token]

depending on evasion

[empty grove]

Test it

[vague token]

how, you cant get a 1v1

xD

[karmic forum]

Hard to do it with vanguard getting in the way

[shell heron]

Snipe and first salvo can proc her instantly

[empty grove]

Make the van weak as shit

Just add in a level 1

[shell heron]

Then wait for it to end

[empty grove]

Wait

[vague token]

cause 1v1 would be instant double reload

[empty grove]

I guess that'd fuck hiryuu tho

[karmic forum]

The hiryuu vanguard has to win but then die quickly to ws

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

if its a troll hiryuu with VH armor + rudder then gl

[empty grove]

Ye

[vague token]

im pretty sure hiryuu can get 3 strikes

in the 1v1

[empty grove]

It'd be doable

[karmic forum]

So ws has a level 1 vanguard and hiryuu has a stronger vangaurd but still weak enough to die fast

[vague token]

first strike hits same time as barrage

[empty grove]

Level 1 van on WS, like level 30 on Hiryuu

Done

[vague token]

ws fires 1st gun set

forces counter

3rd airstrike triggers around 22?

[karmic forum]

Ws probably dies to 3 airstrikes no matter what

[empty grove]

Hiryuu has those barrage planes too tho right

[karmic forum]

So its a matter of killing hiryuu before her third

[ionic magnet]

WS with AA radars lets go

[karmic forum]

They don't tend to to much damage unless she highrolls five

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

If we go by normal pvp rules of faster mainfleet when no vg. Hiryuu has a good chance

[karmic forum]

Oh thats true

[shell heron]

If its a special 1v1 only. My money is on warspite

[empty grove]

Ykkz vs hiryuu

True battle

[karmic forum]

The timer wins

[vague token]

ykkz wins but it takes forever

xD

[shell heron]

[vague token]

yeah hiryuu is basically guaranteed to toss 3 strikes

in standard pvp 1v1

first strike would be around 10-11

[ionic magnet]

solo ykkz is too fast for CVs

[karmic forum]

Well I'm willing to test it out if any of you run into me

[ionic magnet]

and all she needs is a good face torp

[vague token]

final counter triggers after shell + barrage

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

[vague token]

since fc lasts 15 seconds, it goes past the 2nd airstrike

so easy hiryuu win

maybe with 457 + hsfcr you can shoot before 10 seconds

and force fc extra early

and bug out the ryuusei with too many planes xD

[shell heron]

If were doing 1v1 gear. Hiryuu might go armor/rudder. I would want hsfcr on warspite

[karmic forum]

Does anyone even have the 457

[vague token]

it's basically a guaranteed loss with triple 410 though

[proper sorrel]

yes people have the 457

[karmic forum]

Any of us that is.

[vague token]

hiryuu will be invuln from like 12-27 seconds in

[shell heron]

The highest i heard here is 30/50. Or something around that

[ionic magnet]

another week of no 457 BP

still 41/50 for me

[shell heron]

Oh. New highest

[vague token]

i think im 27

[ionic magnet]

i think phx has 41 also

[karmic forum]

I'm at 38/50

[shell heron]

Better than me 21. I saw 1 bp last month

[karmic forum]

I'm laying off the cube comms for a while so I'll have a higher chance to get more

[empty grove]

From going off of Phoenix's comment a few days back

I think he might have it

[past egret]

@ripe latch this season ain’t it

I was afk and got out enterprised

[elder crane]

Still 38/50 for me
Looks like I'll have fifth copy of my PR2 gold equips before I get my 457

[coral wren]

Im still like 6/50 e.e

[eager cedar]

34 over here

[midnight heron]

its too much rng for my taste

did research on both acc with same priority

alt has ~30 and main has ~20

bs

[frail orbit]

35

[hot creek]

meanwhile, guess which happened first? I got my first rainbow gun or my fourth seattle gun?

[karmic forum]

I'm 14/25 on my 4th seattle gun so it seems like you've been having pretty good luck with the 457 bps

[frail orbit]

[coral wren]

You got both.
(Im in danger)

Yes my 7th rainbow gun bp!

[eager cedar]

Oh man, what a terrible reset for me

[shell heron]

I almost forgot to finsh 3 matches last reset

Remembered at 5 minutes

[midnight heron]

u hav failed the pvp community

jk

[coral wren]

Im ok with you guys forgetting reset... because my luck with people moving isnt very good.

[midnight heron]

against a namaspite no less lul

nerf pls

[quartz scaffold]

Should I rush on the last reset? Because my points is a little bit behind the reference on the pins

[hot creek]

rushing causes you to lose points in the long run.

[midnight heron]

only rush if u in rusher squad

[hot creek]

457 Warspite is too fast

[zenith tundra]

too fast for what?

[hot creek]

Does anyone know doy's final reload stat after max oath?

[eager cedar]

wouldnt you just add 12% to it

[zenith tundra]

let me check

[hot creek]

its not exact sometimes since the original value is not listed on wiki

im trying to get doy to shoot hpfcr 381 before ws 457

[eager cedar]

12% of 163

[zenith tundra]

pointless

[eager cedar]

Add that

18+153

[hot creek]

thats not the og value.

[eager cedar]

171

[hot creek]

you need to divide that by 1.06 and then multiply the result by 1.12

[eager cedar]

[hot creek]

but the result from 1.06 isn't exact so there could be a difference of one

[zenith tundra]

jp servers lagging i hate it

[hot creek]

but it doesnt matter anyways, I don't think the extra point is gonna make her shoot before ws

its real close

[eager cedar]

(171/1.06) *1.12

[hot creek]

but she won't make it

[eager cedar]

180.67

[zenith tundra]

162 math

cant't login to check ingame

[hot creek]

wait, maybe if she can reach 162 there's a chance

[zenith tundra]

seems completely pointless to try it but if u want to test go ahead

ingame is 161 200 oath

[hot creek]

oof

yeah there's no way. needs to be under 20.18 reload time with 381

This wouldn't be an issue if we had TWO HPFCR

oh wait nvm im a dumbass

already using hpfcr

can't stack them

[zenith tundra]

ur better off using hsfcr on ws 457 so she deletes faster

[still minnow]

how fast is fast enough for VG

[zenith tundra]

around 3 speed items usually

that's with 2cl and 1 dd

[still minnow]

+1 speed item if I have 3 CLs?

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't use 4 tbh

it's just not that good for aux slots

[ionic magnet]

here

[hot creek]

Wanted Doy to shoot first to debuff the target

[zenith tundra]

u shouldn't anyway get hit by shells usually

[hot creek]

would have to use a crappier gun to do that now

so not really worth

[upper sparrow]

BiS maingun for DoY if using warkai monarch?

[zenith tundra]

i know but having a fast cd works the same. u just delete stuff faster with having 457 go faster

[ionic magnet]

its a good meme

[zenith tundra]

she should go before ws so choose based on that

u would prefer triple 381

[still minnow]

does the center ship get hit most by torps?

[upper sparrow]

triple 381 doy and monarch with triple 381 too?

[zenith tundra]

monarch twin 406

[hot creek]

I prefer the triple because its not uncommon to miss x2 shots.

[zenith tundra]

center ship can get hit by torp but idk how common is tbh

[upper sparrow]

how about DoY-Warkai-Centaur/Formidable backline? is that sounds good?

[still minnow]

so center ship is not a shooin for bulge? definitely not over rudder?

[zenith tundra]

i would prefer monarch over doy

idk the dmg doy can do

[still minnow]

I remember hearing that yuki always goes in the last slot to save her from torpedoes that would hit her if she was in mid

[upper sparrow]

yeah ofc monarch better than her, but me just asking

[hot creek]

Monarch is overrated. Even if she proc her barrage she misses most of it

Doy does that phat burst damage

[zenith tundra]

i tried doy monarch ws but never without monarch

[hot creek]

and debuff

[vague token]

dork hits reasonably hard with her first gun shot

[zenith tundra]

monarch can still kill target solo compared to shellers

[upper sparrow]

i tried doy monarch ws but never without monarch

that will be doy-warkai if u not using monarch then

[zenith tundra]

and double sg monarch doesn't miss all that much

[ionic magnet]

i mean as good as doy is, her first shot targetting is still rng and if you miss it, you lose a big chunk of your dmg

[zenith tundra]

yeah but idk how much dmg u do without monarch

[ionic magnet]

monarch is used for sniping hiryuu/amagi anyways

who else can do that

[upper sparrow]

oh so DoY is rng depend? i see

[ionic magnet]

warkai and amagi

[zenith tundra]

plus u can focus down 1 opponent with ws monarch which doesn't happen with doy

[ionic magnet]

who else

[zenith tundra]

it's still hms and u can just lose to namaryuu for fun

[hot creek]

How are you calling Doy's first round of shelling RNG when we are talking about Monarch here.

[still minnow]

Reno has a skill that's partially an always-active selfbuff, and partially a CV damage reduction that only applies on the first 2 battles of a sortie. How do I figure out whether this is applying in pvp?

[ionic magnet]

Doy does that phat burst damage
you said this

[vague token]

doy used to be rng dependent

with warkai she isnt

cause before she would waste her boosted shell

[hot creek]

Yeah I assumed they knew that?

Unless they didn't

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

it's still only 1 per match and it still can miss

[ionic magnet]

How are you calling Doy's first round of shelling RNG when we are talking about Monarch here.
you definitely didnt mention that lol

but yea sure with warkai

but how often does it really "hit"

[hot creek]

I still think its the better burst/sniping option overall.

Might not be the best dmg vs monarch in the long run though, if thats what you value more.

[zenith tundra]

457 ws doesn't need more burst tbh

[ionic magnet]

i wouldn't use both monarch and doy now tbh cos exactly what zack said

[zenith tundra]

after trying a bit i have a feeling that all hms comps will suck against namaryuu

not wfc but bb ones

[ionic magnet]

you can test which one is better anyways but i'd say theyre just the same from my tests before

doy is heavily underrated and monarch is overrated
that i can agree with

[zenith tundra]

i remember when i was trying to say doy was good with ws skill daxam was also on monarch side

[still minnow]

assuming reno's 10% CV damage reduction works properly, should I be using her or black prince?

how do I assess the value of the backline protection vs. the fart can?

[hot creek]

thats some far-off meta stuff that only you would be able test properly.

also what is fart can

[still minnow]

smokescreen lol

I feel like putting BP in to protect the frontline could free up lusty's spot for a different CV that does more damage, but that doesn't solve the lack of 10% damage reduction on the backline which afaik is a pretty big deal?

[zenith tundra]

i tbh wouldn't use that but i'm not a fan of 3 cv comps

[still minnow]

I need a CV that provides damage reduction to other CVs

xD

get on that shit yostar or whoever it is that makes this game

[zenith tundra]

how about using intrepid then

she can at least fend for herself

[still minnow]

she's the only one I didnt get out of that event

although even if I did I wouldn't really use her, she has basically zero teamplay skills

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu has 0 teamplay outside of tanking role

and she is pretty broken

[still minnow]

I don't have any issue with her, but I think that's more related to me having gone so far offmeta

that what's good and isn't good normally doesn't even apply to me anymore

xDDD

[zenith tundra]

i can't really help since i tried only once a triple cv comp and got annihilated by namagi fdg

[still minnow]

...which I suppose is a way of saying that I can't imagine any comp that intrepid is going to threaten

[frail orbit]

Intrepid bonked

Decrepit Dry Eye, meh

[still minnow]

lol

[frail orbit]

If only thatt skill works on 1st sortie

[zenith tundra]

sure but if u are using bataan i would rather use intrepid

[frail orbit]

Obviously

[zenith tundra]

she should deal some dmg with formie stop

[frail orbit]

Who tf puts a half deck CVL on pvp

🚮

[still minnow]

bataan nukes every frontline that isn't like

[frail orbit]

Meh

Centaur way better

[still minnow]

azuma roon yuki or similar unreasonably tankyness

[frail orbit]

Imagine not having Centaur this day

4/0/4 not found

[still minnow]

legit don't sleep on bataan she hits hard af

[frail orbit]

Or just put Hoe anyway

Or Hiryuu

[zenith tundra]

how do 500lb bombs wreck vg when centaur with all her barrage still cannot clear vg

[still minnow]

ryuusei

[zenith tundra]

any cv can do that

[frail orbit]

Ryusei usable on Cent only

Thx very much

Unless u ran Namaryu

[still minnow]

sure, but not any CV has 155% eff ryuusei and a 15% rld buff to the other CVs

[zenith tundra]

it's still ryuusei and it's still hit or miss

[frail orbit]

And when u consider Bataan got less TB planes per slot than Centaur

Topkeks

[still minnow]

what do you mean hit or miss

[frail orbit]

Imagine 4x150% vs what it is, 2x155% or 3x155%

Lul

[zenith tundra]

that against good comps it's more rng then using other stuff

[frail orbit]

Multiply all of em to 3 assuming u use Ryusei for all torps hit

[still minnow]

what is rng about it?

the hitrate?

[frail orbit]

Ryusei hitrate abysmal anyway

For now

[still minnow]

bataan gets the +hit from a staag

[frail orbit]

Due to Formi

Revamp

Only usable for extra VG kill

[still minnow]

wait what's this about formi revamp?

[frail orbit]

Ryusei got revamped

[still minnow]

when did this happen lul

[frail orbit]

After Formi release

[still minnow]

is that in patchnotes somewhere?

I totally missed that

[zenith tundra]

the timing of the stops depends on vg position. meta vg should use a lot of speed so it's rng whatever the timing u have on ur cv works or not

[frail orbit]

Basically used to be aiming for backline too

Now it's some time and then dud torp

[still minnow]

I see

so what is the problem I need to solve? find an alternative to bataan ryuusei for nuking vgs?

[zenith tundra]

i would use formie cent if u want cv. if u want off meta u can just use whatever u want

[hot creek]

Ugh. Hiryuu wouldn't be such a problem if it wasn't for the bullshit reload buff when VG's are gone. I hate that shit so much. Can launch up to three airstrike while still invuln.

[still minnow]

trying to figure out waifu fleet that can beat meta stuff w/o resetting 5 times

big brain

[frail orbit]

FDG Amagi Suruga for me
2 mommy 1 oneechan

[still minnow]

I dont have a hpfcr and it's the most obnoxious thing ever

well on the plus side at least my enemies didn't get a 2nd one

[frail orbit]

Or if u wanna hit backline too

FDG Amagi Monarch? How?

3 mommy

Obvious lee u need d30 fdg so

[ionic magnet]

who needs to kill VG when you can just ignore them

[upper sparrow]

then ur backline die

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet aint u need to reset for that tho

[ionic magnet]

nah i let it finish and noone died on my backline

warkai just burned them to death

[frail orbit]

Imagine that goes with Azuma

Not going to be there like this one

Different eHP bruh

🚮

[ionic magnet]

why so serious im just memeing

[frail orbit]

Am always serious

Like Sirius

[still minnow]

my IQ is too low I didnt notice you were memeing

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

[ionic magnet]

just funny to see all VG still alive with no backline

[still minnow]

I was under the impression it was a real strategy to kill the enemys backline and then let your bbsd kill the enemy's frontline w/ secondaries xD

[frail orbit]

would do it anyway

[still minnow]

would you put the least tanky ship in front so it procs pearls quickly or would you put it in the rear to keep it alive longer?

[zenith tundra]

imo depends on opponent team whatever u want an early death or not

[ionic magnet]

I was under the impression it was a real strategy to kill the enemys backline and then let your bbsd kill the enemy's frontline w/ secondaries xD
yea it was a real strat during wasd vs foxes meta
ppl would put torp memes and intentionally let their VG die fast then letting BB aux kill enemy VGs
they call it suicide VG iirc

[zenith tundra]

like against ws team u want early since u don't want to lose a backline ship too early. against stuff like namaryuu u want later since it doesn't have early burst so u waste healing if the pearl wearer dies too fast

it's based on when opponent team does a lot of dmg pretty much

[still minnow]

gotcha

so just kinda do tests and figure it out

[zenith tundra]

u pretty much know when a team does damage based on what ships they use

[still minnow]

well wouldn't it also depend on what ship I have and whether it has rudder or boiler?

also other stuff like smokescreen or lusty shields

[zenith tundra]

that's for ur own team and those will always happen. so yes it does matter but every time should be the same

u take that into account but when u want heal is based on opponent damage not what ur team does

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/FKC2f/61932694b1.png I almost died

enemy nagato about to bust a nut

[proper sorrel]

i see it

[shell heron]

you hit that continue on accident and it's over

[vague token]

or tap outside

xD

[proper sorrel]

or the X button

[hot creek]

This comp is still pretty memey, but 457 does make it marginally better than what it once was. I could optimize it a little more as well. If I oath Doy, she could run fdg gun and still fire before 457 ws and hpfcr 410 kgv. Also having yuki would help a lot but I was testing against a full torp meme so I had no choice but to run noshiro .

Noshiro + bulge stack does damn good work though.

I was a non-believer at first, but now I see da wae.

[frail orbit]

[proper sorrel]

is it better to use
wasd+enty or
wasd+centaur or
wasd+warspite or
wasd+hiryuu?

[frail orbit]

Context Amagi server?

[proper sorrel]

yup

i didn't get amagi last banner

so gotta work with whatever i got

[frail orbit]

[proper sorrel]

my vanguard is juneau yukikaze belfast if that helps

.. soo

[ionic magnet]

not using warkai is a crime

real question is if you should use wasd

[proper sorrel]

well what else am i suppose to use

[ionic magnet]

any other ships you got?

[proper sorrel]

eh

nothing else viable in pvp

got hood though

[ionic magnet]

well

[proper sorrel]

dragons, i can farm for akaga if i need to

[ionic magnet]

wasd is too old im not really sure how they do in current meta

[proper sorrel]

works pretty fine in Amagi

[frail orbit]

But everyone in Amagi got Amagi

Unlike u

[proper sorrel]

amagi+akaga/dragons?

illustrious+eldridge?

[vague token]

hooloo do you use sirius with your formi/centaur

im thinking if i should use her with formi/taihou

[ionic magnet]

mm i tried it before but going full stall with cudas is still the most consistent one

[vague token]

ok

[ionic magnet]

i reaaaally wanted to make sirius work but yea shes not the best and it makes me

[vague token]

figured

[hot creek]

Sirius is great tho, especially in wfc. Just doesnt do well against torps when you could use noshiro instead obviously.

[ionic magnet]

tho if youre going with ryuusei route shes prolly the best 3rd slot outside of azuma

cos using ryuusei with no eva debuff just annoys me so much

you wanna kill VG but ykkz just shrugs it off like its nothing

[frail orbit]

So using Aurora for that?

Nep Siri Au?

[ionic magnet]

yea aurora is an option too
why did i forget her

[frail orbit]

And how about rather than Nep go Nos?