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im also looking for an excuse to use sirius when she comes out so i want to play 2 CVs but no albacore formi is a sad life
having one Albacore is nice. shame I don't use a centaur/formi comp
and having zero albacores is suffering, one of the best ships and i really cant use it that well
especially considering my formidable was entirely max limit broken from dupes ;_; the game was just begging me to use her
i dont find sirius super useful unless you're going for a vanguard wipe comp
eg kgv/double cv
ws/double cv is better at ignoring vg and nuking the main
since you dont do as much to juneau
sirius is a decision of the heart and the benor, not the brain
now i have to compensate for that
my favorite kind 🤤
ara ara 
kreygasm fleet 
i see cay is a person of culture

Seems like a long shot
I don't move until last minute tho
camping famine is a trap 
ugh im sad, i got a great start this season then crashed out early and missed 5
I had a streak of 20 bonuses at the start of this season
who should warspite snipe in namaryuu
Either hiryuu or amagi works tbh
early hiryuu procc is good, but so is Amagi being out
its an oil tank for aviation
Oh, i dont even think i have that in my inventory xD
Oil tanks drop from all T3 boxes and up
The aviation fuel is 500 core data but there are probably higher priority items there
does enterprise's skill affect crash damage? 
Yes.
Namagi FDG vs HMS BB more like oathed vs non-oathed
2-3 with Dido
4-6 with Neptune
7-3 with N
shir
Some confirmations of what we already knew, HMS vg sucks, and Azuma will make a big difference in this comp
and u lot are sleeping on FDG barrage
azuma 
i'm assuming there that azuma will do better than noshi
imagine tryharding in W13 
real trihards have no use for tierlists anyways
cos they use everything regardless
imagine using a lv 120 bote

Some confirmations of what we already knew, HMS vg sucks, and Azuma will make a big difference in this comp
and u lot are sleeping on FDG barrage
@whole terrace you didnt even use best hms staller sheffield
I'm actually looking forward to her a lot
I'm gonna try do w13 with all hms so this winter's crown rerun is a big help
oh you dont have her yet
Nope
I mean HMS vg is good really, just not as good from the looks of it - Noshiro and Azuma are just IJN bias at its peak 
but yea both noshiro and azuma should still be better
noshiro cos she counters the evil torp memes
and azuma is azuma
Even without torp memes it seems.
Some azuma users will use VH armour which makes noshi even stronger
as a staller sheff wins if youre not fighting torp memes
noshiro is only paired with azuma if shes not d25+
ykkz+juneau is still better after that
Is that so? I’m going to try her and sandy kai on the amagi server (not together ofc)
And i mean using noshiro to attack a VH armour Azuma, since ur torps will do more damage
Noshiro is also tanky af
Much more so than sheff is 
well point of using sheff is to make ykkz immortal

that strat didn't work that well in akaga meta. why bother with it now
I found you on boards kanzaki.
Aight when do we full rush
In case maintenance gets fucked
@ripe latch what’s yo rank and score rn
Ah, i see you got lucky there....actually we can do pvp defense testing o.o
Torp vg is a coinflip for both sides. Either chunk the enemy hard or miss everything

except the fact that I dont have any good ship

Im going to try this set up >:D

Wow. #1 in Avrora has almost 700 ladder points (I'm assuming 0/10 going to 5/10 in the next few minutes)
im curious, what's the highest fp a ship can possibly have in this game 
prob wskai with qe + hyuuga using 457, nepgun and 2 black shell 
yea but wondering how high it would go...
it's easy math...
Imagine not being done in 2-3 days 
centy defense 

looks like someone transferred their amagi account
4th bonus this reset
this helps catch me back up after the first 2 days being ultra dead xD
should ask shimarin for that
@proper sorrel That's still pretty lucky (nearly 700 before 2nd Wednesday restock) especially considering the rest of the top 10 are <690.
u should hit 710+ on a good run tbh
i won't even hit 690 because 2nd reset 1 bonus and lost 1 attempt
i'm only aiming for aotn bonus anyway
Hey guys, I've heard a while ago that Nagato's IJN buff was bugged. Is it still the case?
Good to know, thanks
@past egret 723, no sandbag 
@elder crane do u know anywhere where barrage plane crash dmg are listed?
i tested around for hiryuu barrage crash dmg and i pick the closest value for it to make sense but trying to figure out crash dmg in the middle of an airstrike seems impossible
208 for hiryuu?
ye
can u check for cent and formie pls?
i was close i took 220
the math was around that number but was expecting some aa dmg
it was unequipped pr2 ships but to do 0 aa dmg
centy: 306, formi: 406
formi:2 planes, centy: 2 planes
i got 3 bonuses but doesn't matter
Are you going to go to 0/10 before maint?
Because if the maint gets extended you could suddenly be in the lead again
Fair enough
in jp u have to go 0/10 since u completely miss 1 reset...

only food on reset 
That’s pretty behind. 703 rn
Ever had your score and your rank be the same?
i lost 1 attempt because i forgot to use it at 6/10 and barely any bonuses anyway
Do you care about maximizing your score or just getting AOTN?
this season maximizing score @karmic forum
Then I'd just sandbag as normal
maint wont fuck up matches?
24 hour maintenance on avrora server incoming oh no no 
Normally I'd say they won't but this maint is a bit different than normal maints
shouldn't but u never know what they fuck up
Its up to you but if I get fucked over by the main then I'll just accept it and move on.
main 3 ihr 
rusher with rigged extra point after maint 
ill full rush it fuck it
in case they fuck up
@ripe latch prepare to see me top 100 wash 

so heres a question is whats good against a china wall team? or is it mianly cause im still new i find them hard to beat
i get that its ment to stall? but like everyone is running it on sandy its so fkn annoying
so run triple cv?
mean was gonna try to put enty in and see what happens but wasnt sure
or would lusty be better
china wall is not a hard team to beat since it only wastes time at best
eh just used a reset good riddance to that team
@ripe latch the King has landed
if u have a good comp that vg shouldn't really do anything
@past egret 
eh they had a maxed monarch with essex and i think noshiro or w/e maybe hiei
yeah porb cause under leveled but i mean does 2 levels really make that huge of a difference when im attacking
can u ss what were u using?
Ranth101
so run triple cv?
1-2 , but yea , essex / cent / enty best
was using amagi kaga/akagi with yuki yaya port XD
if full oath china wall 120 , only enty and w8 proc
and hmm well will try to get essex when ever she becomes perma
hmm would helena be good to try and roll the dice with? less she will get dummied at the start?
helena with akaga has 0 synergy
port 
hmm appreciate it sadly only ones i have leveled up enough to be used, someday ill have multiple teams
aurora is worth to lvling 
yeah everyone keeps saying all the healing cvs are worth and they just seem like poo or dont bring anything else maybe its just my vanguard is weak and i dont have enough gear that can handle w10 but the lose of damage doesnt work for

elixer shefild nanoda 
that was bad 1 year ago and still is bad now
lots of people around here have sheff from 1 year ago and never saw anyone recommend her
I used sheffield prior to noshiro and she was fine.
Since Azuma and Noshiro theres not much reason to run her.
If you want to run sheffy, then run sheffy/juneau/nanoda
double sheffy juneau 
i don't remember this being #461381136661217283
unless u prove that double sheffield is a good comp
Allied ships with lower health than Sheffield at the start of battle will have a 8.0% chance of receiving 30.0% less damage.
Fun fact: Sheffield's blue skill used to be a lot worse.
why did they even buff sheffield back then. i lost 1 attempt by trying her a long time ago. without that stupid buff she would never have been considered for pvp
Back when they actaully cared about rebalancing
The old skill seems hilariously weak when you compare it to the buffed version
Also I did have trouble with one fleet using sheff as well.
i think new ships now are pretty balanced outside of the usual broken ship here and there
that was bad 1 year ago and still is bad now
lots of people around here have sheff from 1 year ago and never saw anyone recommend her
she was never bad lol
only hms users tested her and yea she was always in the recommended VGs
i'd even say she is the best option if you want to go full stall but everyone just wants to flex their PRs with namaryuu so
Its fine to have varying power levels in this game.
Its just strange that they made such a large balance patch early on and then never did it again.
cant blame them tbh cos no need to min max when you win anyways
i don't remember her being any better then other stuff when i tested her
She didn't feel better than the other options at the time either
so whos better than her?
You can probably just pick between belfast, jintsuu, sheffy, etc. back then and have similar results.
Sheffield was my pick for stall
i'll test sheffield vs other stuff in current meta to see how bad she is tbh
She'll probably perform about the same as before.
let's see if a stupid 15% dr does anything to azuma
yea just make sure you use the usual jun+ykkz
vs actually doing something
Do you have a PvP-ready sheffy?
its different for namaryuu users cos they doesnt need to go full stall
can't wait for any ws team to murder my backline because juneau never dies
i think my sheffield is like level 78

overestimate 75
I have a 120 oathed sheffy. Don't think shes 200 aff though.
so that means shefid gud full hms? 
but I don't really want to test her rn
its fine she just needs to buff ykkz
i want to test against azuma not old stuff
i miss my old hms
I was thinking juneau might be the tank in that comp
nid make hms rise 
well you dont want to make jun too tanky
i dnt wnt using elixer 
that passive is rng tho but on average should be better
but we have noshiro and azuma now so w/e
i just hope i get an ws monarch team on defense with a stupid nep jun yuki vg that does 0 dmg and my sheffield keeps junueau alive till even fdg dies
yes noshi is better that why i use noshi,elixer,nanoda bt i nid some new 
or some azuma comp that just melts my vg anyway because she cannot tank really
i'd record a match when i find a decent azuma 

sheffield has a significant advantage over belfast in that she shields you outside of smoke timing
and the rate is high so it's fairly reliable
also works on torps at start of battle
unlike literally anything outside of noshiro
or the rare starter smoke
but lul
still got alot
stella woke up from grave 
good joke
you wish
what a funny guy
do those ever exist

op pvp ship u means pecopeco ship 
namagi tosa is like a t1.5 comp
u the only funny memer here
How's priconne?
no pvp reset 
Every single gatcha anime is superior to the AL anime
seemed pretty boring when i tried it. usual rpg battles
you guys watch AL anime? 👀
why would i bother?
I really like the priconne anime though.
i'm watching princess connect anime tho
pricon is that anime who has like
no korean staff
all made in jp
so it wasnt delayed
lol
time to stop before mod come 

are u watching hamefura as well? i'm only watching those 2
i only watch kaguya sama 
I'm watching those three shows as well
i tried watching kaguya but it was so boring with the narrator talking half anime
Different strokes

Everyone says that kaguya gets a lot better and I agree. The beginning is the worst part of the series.
if we discuss about pvp on anime its still general talk or not? 
Its been a while since this chat was general-2
amagi sucks on pvp



yes
yea just like namaryuu cos everyone is running that shitty comp
That is the unspoken truth of anime
i watch what i like not what other people watch
pretty much the only comp that can force reset against almost everything with pure rng
namagi ws still beats it with >95% 
rng doesn't matter when u can just delete stuff
there i swapped sheff for now
so you can test if you want
too bad my backline is shit
but just check how ykkz is immortal with sheff buff

yukikaze being immortal doesn't mean much against bb deleting backlines
it only works on cv
just for stalling 
maybe add in eldridge but too meme for offense and i dont wanna switch too much
why not use lusty and uni and vestal then
maint in 30s
i want stall ppl for 5min match like pricone 
I've read the manga and the adaptation enhances the experience to the point where its worth watching.

1.7gb android 2.4gb ios 

im still at 10/10
wait nvm thats just jp/cn
wait
i didn't use my attacks there either
fkfkfkfkfkfk
they started earlier so en might not be that long


does it actually matters? i can dl at 30mb/s so 
mines at 56mb 
Idk
probably because im standing right next to it and no one else is using it
24hrs MT for EN 
But when you download using a 3rd party thing like qooapp

That shit gets rate limited
I'm ready for the two day maint
i think problems due to overload are long gone
I wont hold my breath
ddos other to download first 
Always got the lube ready for the eventual
should we be using all our attacks
I can only recall three times where extended maint screwed over sandbaggers
better safe than sorry?
I still don't even know why the maintenance on this is so long
The average time is what, like 6 hours?
that time 3day canot login 
They seem to have added two hours for maint ever since the microlayer disaster
probably load test

idk i feel like they could screw up things even more with an app update 
They totally could
Positive here tho
App update is universal
So it isn't just EN getting shafted
Meaning likelihood is lower
I'm banking on maint going as planned though
i think there are more chances that en gets weird jp/cn stuff in updates like these then normal ones
meanwhile AK and their 10 min maints
like untranslated text?

Like boss names being in chinese
or ships being able to go to lvl 100 without lb
Wasn't there one event where the boss had that damage timer where it'd release a barrage if a certain threshold wasn't passed
& that timer was in korean
I should screenshot this shit tbh, it's funny to look back on
I remember that for one event they had a gold version of a drop gun that should have been purple
Display error, but I got excited at the prospect of farming a bugged gun
oh nice i can take the #1 rank right now if i wanted to
Literal face of the oath system on EN, announcement song sung by her VA
& there's a TN error in the line
Do you have a screenshot?

Literally since release
tags: bad grammar

found one i think North Carolina - "being stared like that makes me shy" like is this ment to be stared at or is that implying being put ona pedestal makes her shy?
should ask tl team
So. We getting like 5 warnings to bind accounts, n shit. Smells like a possible 12h maint. Any of u gonna chance it and sandbag it up? 
up to u... not like it matters anyway unless u want eos top 10
Yus, I do 
Can someone help me make a good excerise team my current team seems to lose alot of the time even to lower power teams
qe low but still can make strong fleet. ws kai / hood / lusty portland/belfast/noshiro .
u can replace noshiro/bel to nimi
is nimi minneaplois
oh okay

i was running lusty, warspite kai, sar, portlantd, z23, ayanami
if have problems with cv corps - temporally replace hood to sara
but it felt it was not good
lusty and sara work to top1000 or above. below - not
u need to up you amagi and yuki lvl around 110
yeah im doing alot of my grnding using an IJN fleet
because i want to lvl them up and complete the pr1 exp missions
if i get nagato
should i run a full ijn fleet in excerises or is that bad
is taihou any good if i lvl her up
oh wow ty
warkai amagi mikasa is a decent comp until you get your nagato
and if you wanna take pvp seriously you better level a juneau now
oh really is she really good?
wow shes in alot of the vanguard fleets for the teir list
noshi ykkz jun is the meta VG rn until you get your azuma
thats good to know ill start on using her more and more
Hiryuu can drop in chapter 3?
3-1/2/3
/wiki hiryuu
ill get on farming for her then as well
so why is juneau good, is it just because of her heal?
does exp from excerises count towards pr1 research exp
No
The massive warnings are 100% because EN can't read
& they'll still get flooded by people saying they lost their account
So spamming atleast minimises work load


@empty grove 
fat bonus

sheffy 
nice name 
Has anyone tried Tashkent on a serious comp? I feel she has promise...
I'm sure people tried when she was released
it would require leveling her so i haven't
I got one leveled and oathed, but I don't expect much
I just went against one guy who used her on VG, and it did surprisingly better than expected.
I wanna say on a comp with more thought put into it, she can be very useable. Not OP or anything, but decent
Also her damage is more sustained than burst.
good survivability in pvp require lots of luck and dr skill or just plain and simple 8k hp
merely 3k with nothing else is like nothing
Well. She is like the second fastest DD on the game, so that's like 1 whole extra Boiler or so without trying. High HP. Excellent Light DPS, and most VG's are Light anyway, specially in EN.
speed becomes counterproductive after a certain point unless u don't run juneau
if u want to test urself go ahead
i wouldn't mind more people testing
give me a VG comp and I can do some runs
Yeh, average DD speed is 40-45, and Tashkent is 51. Pretty much 1 free boiler. Like, I wanna try it at some point
bb hit ur vg with he and ur vg kaput
Hard to hit something that moves fast 
also impossible for juneau to ever die before main
But anyway, not trying to aim for Meta here. Just stuff that's fun, still consistent enough, and fresh 

u can test urself and post results. no one is stopping that
what is the fastest rusher fleet
If currently I average out 3-5 Resets per season, I'm willing to take up to 10, if it's still something relatively new lol
not attacking namagi teams
rofl
I would stop running it if I get like 15+ resets a season tho, I suppose 
any more then 0 reset for season for me is too much if i use an actual good comp
Well, then you got excellent RNG 
Must be that one WoWs player that has like 80% WR on his Yamato, but rage sells his Yamato for the one lost in a blue moon 
I could try it. She'll most likely be the pearl carry in the basic Juneau/Ykk vg
it's called changing equipment based on opponent not rng
just to test her viability
Imagine being that uptight 
I never switch my gear, I rather do the same shit for everything. The only thing I do is change WK positions around, and that's good enough for me kek
Tashkent does seem like a fun experiment
Maybe I'll swap her in once mine gets to 120
Imagine if I had to do more 
LET ME IN
anyway the only that i should ever rng reset against is namagi fdg since there is no way of beating that with terrible rng
Oh shoot I didn't even check my opponents before I left
And fuck, I forgot I had a Research due 1 min before Maint, and cuz I was talking here I didn't do the next research 
i wasn't lucky to get donald trump in list. he was 4 i was 6
Oh well 
he has dev30 azuma
wasted 4 refreshes
trump always been there
I don't think hes on this server
I just left it at 3/10. If it's 12h maint, I lose 3, so w/e
But hes been around forever
If not, I'm not that fucked with the sandbagging, so win-win
is he a sandbagger
hes the only person i can think of with 100% win ratio
If he's using Azuma, even Dev 30, he can get fucked by bad RNG against Torp meme
i think i saw his name around from at least october 2018
SO, I hgihly doubt he has 100% WR
fast reset
Unless he's not using VH armor for some reason
i mean as long as he reset?
100% wr means u reset instead of losing like everyone does
I dont reset until the last moment. Imagine resetting on the first 30 seconds cuz ur VG ate one too many torps
i think pve, ill get back to you once servers are up
🚮
I took a few losses early on
I wanna see my little guys turn a battle around 
I remember distinctly this guy running a solo laffey with some boilers or some shit
But the laffey was way overlevelled compared to my fleet so she would just zip around until all of my fleet was dead

i don't think dev 30 azuma ever goes under 30% hp against torp memes. and after that she goes to 60% tanks to juneau since torp have 0 dmg afterwards
how much gun dps aya noshiro and jintsuu can do?
I too wish Torps would magically do 0 damage on subsequent waves lol
they don't last to 2nd wave
I like how u loooove to work on absolutes lol
sure u just love torp on defense
Not really
how many torp memes stalled u for more then 20s
using dev 30 azuma
i guess u don't know since u don't have her

But you imply that an undesired outcome won't happen simply because you think it won't
Even if something is unlikely to happen, doesn't mean it won't happen at some point lol
well if it ever happens ping me
Sure I guess? Not that I see a point of it
But hey, as lon as you're sure and confident, that's what should matter to you the most lol
u have till al dies to find a torp comp that 1 shoots azuma
lol just reset matches til all ur torps hit and all their torps miss
like why even play by the meta lmaoo
I'm not trying to change your mind, just giving a different perspective, that's all lmao
we are talking about torp defense not offense
so the other person applies that logic then 
no one is forcing u to use meta. just use what u like. but also don't assume stuff based on 0 experience using a ship
Unless you want me to waste my time and test it when I have a Dev 30 Azuma with "recommended gear", and happen to run into a sweaty torp meme Defense, and decide to reset test the battle 30 times, sure, I'll randomly remember to ping you with my results.

if u have the time to actually do more then just try non meta u could also help testing comps. there is no way of knowing anything without tests
True. Main issue is I'm a lazy person. At least I'm slowly getting everyone I want to test to 120/200, just need to find the right time I suppose, and not be lazy
1kk points on pvp , done - 12% 
My waifu is coming home?
my wife*
Hopefully she is actually a meta.
Also vaquelin is also going to be coming.
(Tartu sister ship)
not even noshiro could actually make it into jp/cn meta so i wouldn't expect much out of any vg ships.
@coral wren is that real?
could totally be tbh
cn datamine should be up already
not that there is much to datamine
en deviating anyways xD
might be because bluestacks or dunno
oh emu?
yes
on phone i need to move some of my 27gb of al videos
should just delete them
most of them are already on youtube anyway
archive them?
fun
Not sure what it says but this.
mumu works but bluestacks no 
character introduction
we finally get her 2 weeks later then what should have been
lol
eh
they tweeted smth with jeanne d arc too
it's just delayed for en tho
oh maintenance ended?
or was it the other french bote
this one
looks like a major event if it lasts for a month
it has a border...
looks similar to the 'baltimore' event
yeah but balti was already released
not a baf border tbh
new hope for pvp
looks pretty
jp is so laggy right now
okay it's too laggy to play comfortably
farming in archives 
I'll just do my pvp and sleep for now
if it's actually worth it for sure
goodluck getting 1 bp a day
farmable t0 dd gun yeee
in 30 min u can do plenty of sirens tbh
is it better to snipe siren nodes or do boss also
yea goodluck
bps farm i would do sirens only if u have oil
yeah i got plenty
i'm at 9/15 now. not gonna be much till i get another one
didnt someone put up statistics before that doing boss is way better than just spamming sirens
not when time capped imo
last time i only got like 3 BPs from sirens iirc and 15+ on boss
okay wtf my server i play in is basically only populated by whales
i got last 9 bps from siren only farm till i had 0 oil in like 2 days
the most populated jp server that still isn't locked to new players iirc
jp server weeb server
the others are locked like wakamatsu and like 2 more

i play on wakamatsu
can you read japanese
i didn't create and account before so i can't join there

yes i am japanese
the only thing u ever read are ships lines
earlier contentt
i read the event plot
there's a plot?
what kind of these people

i'll read a recap somewhere one day
like kaga running into the map ful lof seiren alone
and survive
is this disney plot or something
worse? 
yea better if they just let that fox die instead of amagi
for character development

baby raging running into sea full of seiren alone and whole konoha had to come to rescue anda ctually survive
what kind of disney plot is this
i read crosswave plot for a bit till it got too boring lol
if they release good story then they have to keep it up
^
if they release shitty story
then nobody expect anytthing
nothing could go wrong
if they write good story
and next event its shit
then it owarida
your game player cant be disappointed in your game story if they dont expect anything in the first place
your player cant be disappoint in pvp reward if you dont really giving actual pvp reward
and best ship in the game made of daily gambling pr quest
they actually added something to pvp shop. now people will expect more and better stuff too
what could posibility go wrong with this kid of stategy for maketting
like i've told you,they need to fix the problem about keeping game content fresh to play and pvp is like lower priority in their eye but its like
in the end they need to do something new
i want more to do with submarines tbh
the game itself had some problem
they promote game with anime,new player joining
what if next new wave of player joining
too bad after safe there is no reason to clear 6 battles before boss
if they dont add all starter ship to core/pvp merit then new player cant play the game
starter I mean ssr that gonna carry your ass through the game
but why albacore
why they dont rate up swifsure
why not
because rate up for wc ships
swift is not wc ship
jp/cn didn't even get rate up because they had 2 runs of wc
isnt swiftsure got rate-up tho? 
nope

they just slapped her to perma light pool
F
and im desperately on tosa event
i'll only throw 100 cubes for her and move on
just do daily light till wishing well
im gettingh centaur from wishing well
which
i might use wishing well on zeppy...
the kms one
im not even got aurora on light build yet 
u-81
it's either spee or zeppy but i like zeppy a lot more
i had zeppy 110 in en and i don't even have her in jp
they could've done weekly rate up
but they dont
instead they do half monthly exchange
smh
they add belfast
but they should've remove takao atago
its a scam
when I start playing the game I see takao
I tried to use takao til my friend tell me
its a scam
its a dogshit ship that eat so much oil and do jackshit dmg with low evasion until lv120 and die to everything
aren't all of them a scam?
almost all of them
not enty or hood
yeah
illus is fine for pve
other than these 3 are scam
warspite isn't scam
4 then
ws pre retro is a blue ship painted gold
imagine giving a newbie noob exchange and they happen to start to play the game on the fking prince of wale and next week atago
their first month of playing the game is ruined
I lvling takao to 90 then I realize
that cake is a lie
waste so much oil as low lvl commander that generate jack shit oil
feelsbad
glad i never bothered with her
very
i still haven't use a takao calss ship actively
think about it
takao is slow
low evasion
jack shit dmg
with super high oil cost
is this a scam
I mean core exchange
imagine u new player
and the game decided to random you a takao
and u dont know jack shit about the game and exchange her and use her
and waste so much oil
oh i see, im not scrolling 
as low lvl ocmmander with low oil
could be worse with a sandy
its cancer
and one more thing I dislike about the game itself is how they made ship,ofc nagato
the way they balance the weak ship is giving them retrofit or ship buffer like bsimarck dido or nagato.
they made many ship shitty on purpose.
if you wanna run ijn ship then you need nagato.
if they gonna create high end content to make the game hard,then they balance game based on people using nagato isn't it
if you dont have nagato life is over
and if you have nagato life is easy
but why
"f2p game no bitching"

some early ships weren't meant to be power creeps. the more the game advanced the more they released stupid ships
it happen on other game too
actually every single game in the world
had this problem
first world problem
some of the new ships just have lazy copypasta skills
and some have stupid skills like intrepid
having stupid skill is fine in other game
except this game never buff or nerf directly
only retrofit or using other ship buff
i don't really care that much for all ships to be same level. u need bad ships to have good ones
the good one is like 20 timesb etter than the bad one
will you use that over ayanami laffey
nowhere close near portland tho
^
whatever takao good start , atago so usless
weeb's bait

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