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vague token
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xD

empty grove
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SSR pool starting to look like the SR pool

ionic magnet
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safe to say we'll get archive version too right

empty grove
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Nah

zenith tundra
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nah

empty grove
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We haven't had the rerun yet

zenith tundra
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en didn't get rerun. jp had it 1 year ago

ionic magnet
empty grove
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WC was an exception cause we already had all the ships

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Imagine they add in swiftsure after iris archives tho, with no rate up

zenith tundra
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but who cares about ships. it's the map that is good anyway

empty grove
zenith tundra
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d2 best map

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i wonder how much till they announce swiftsure

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hopefully not day before maint PortDoll

shell heron
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daily baguette gun farming sounds nice

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finally some use for these archive things

zenith tundra
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if only vdir maps weren't so bad u could farm some ryuusei there

karmic phoenix
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Is guns vanguard viable or should I focus on torp pvp

zenith tundra
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gunboats don't do that well in pvp. the only exception in azuma due to splash dmg on main gun and ofc broken stats

ripe latch
zenith tundra
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ain't that dev 30 fdg

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too bad that comp is pure 🚮

hot creek
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lol. I wouldve believed it initially

ionic magnet
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thats what you call wasted potential YorkBruh

zenith tundra
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that's an edit right? there is something wrong with fdg border on the right...

empty grove
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Show the persons name

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He'd be flexing it as secretary 100%

ionic magnet
ripe latch
empty grove
hot creek
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Her set of stars is all blurry compared to the rest

empty grove
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I mean

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It's pretty possible if he dumped all gen into FDG

ripe latch
empty grove
hot creek
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Also main fleet power would probably be higher. Which is what tipped off zack at first I assume.

ripe latch
empty grove
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I believe it

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Look at his name

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Search him on FL

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90% he has FDG as sec

zenith tundra
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i think it has to do with black bg

ripe latch
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second oath amagi MiniSip

hot creek
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BuckyPride Interesting. Looks like Famine was right z35wow

zenith tundra
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is it 6*?

empty grove
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Is he flexing it?

ripe latch
hot creek
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No I dont think hes on my server. I was just dismissing my initial doubts after seeing zacks pick. I believe it now.

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But, i did search. Hes not on Sandy as far as I know.

zenith tundra
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the thing on the right tho i only see it in jp

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not en

empty grove
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Bruh

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I'm about to go check wash

zenith tundra
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i don't have any acc started there

empty grove
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Ohh god, I got that akashi message

zenith tundra
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welcome back AkagiLUL

empty grove
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Damn

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He has bisko as sec

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On wash tho

hot creek
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Jebaited

empty grove
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Bronze KMS medal

zenith tundra
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is he still top 100

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?

empty grove
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Lemme check pvp leaderboard

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Rip

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Not in top 100

ripe latch
empty grove
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I saw niko tho

ripe latch
hot creek
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time to pm him in game SandyMeme

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"pls set your fdg to secretary thnx" BuckySmug

zenith tundra
hot creek
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I still find it funny this game's got a messaging system.

empty grove
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A level 44 is on top of the event leaderboard on wash

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Wtf

ripe latch
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funny season , any put trash on def

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refresh

hot creek
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probably whatever max damage/one shot hack those guys use in challenges can be used in pvp as well I assume

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so make takao the best pvp ship of them all SandyMeme

zenith tundra
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i'm pretty sure u can use it everywhere. not like pvp isn't client side too

hot creek
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I wonder if devs ever attmpted to patch that BuckySmug

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seems like they either can't be bothered to or they gave up.

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perhaps a combination of both.

empty grove
zenith tundra
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how do u even patch that? all calculations are done client side shouldn't be hard setting a fp stat to like 1m or something

vague token
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set juneau fp to infinite

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xD

zenith tundra
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is that guy one of those banned recently or banned people are also removed from leaderboards?

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66 banned. people have nothing to do with their time

empty grove
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They get removed from leaderboards

hot creek
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Guess the only real way is to make that stuff not client side but devs are probably very limited in what they can do with all the 🍝 they have anyways. Also I don't really imagine they care all that much since its just leaderboards.

frail orbit
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Keks 5s taco made in havker

zenith tundra
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i wonder if they can even ban people that just farm with those on and never bother doing it for leaderboards

hot creek
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hax might help you win, but it wont help you sandbag SandyMeme

zenith tundra
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too bad pvp leaderboard is so short lived

hot creek
vague token
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im surprised they dont have a temp thing yet

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like i know honkai does a temporary emblem

zenith tundra
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tbh with the medal system they could add one that is unlocked if top 10 end of season for 2 weeks

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but they won't bother so WarShrug

ripe latch
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they need make medal with sleeping girlship SandyMeme

zenith tundra
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does anyone know if dupe ships counts towards 120 medals?

ripe latch
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maybe on tech/gamehelp mod know ThinkZed

zenith tundra
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i don't think people should know the answer. i'll find out once my 2nd amagi hits 120

empty grove
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I doubt it

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Going off of the rose medal not counting the same ship twice

keen sparrow
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wat fdg d30 BuckyStare

coral wren
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Sounds like kurumi to me.

quartz scaffold
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Preparing for next season. Hoping to reach AOTN

frail orbit
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Wakai optional positioning

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Should tank enemy Wakai snipe

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If u cant 2nd best for tanking em is 4mi

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Cent place her into a safe spot

quartz scaffold
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Thanks DorkHeart

frail orbit
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@quartz scaffold also time em right

quartz scaffold
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How who

frail orbit
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Centaur b4 4mi

quartz scaffold
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How? how long?

frail orbit
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1-1.5s for me

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At minimum 0.9s

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Some prefer 1.5-2s

quartz scaffold
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Do you know what planes should I equip for the timing?

frail orbit
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Ask hooloovoo koz am on dinner lol

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Typically

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Crash dmg

quartz scaffold
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You can answer later I don't know him BuckyPride

hot creek
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Lol you dont need to time anything. Centaur is pretty much always gonna launch first.

frail orbit
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In case of mine tho

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Centau on ryusei

quartz scaffold
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I think their 1st airstrikes are quite close

frail orbit
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Otherwisr

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If u all cuda

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No need to worry

quartz scaffold
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I use all cuda except 1 albacore on formi

frail orbit
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If u want best dmg

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831

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Crash dmg

hot creek
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Formi gets Helldiver/Barracuda/Albacore/avgas/Rudder. Centuar gets VF-17/Reppu/Barracuda/avgas/Rudder.

quartz scaffold
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Thanks DorkHeart

frail orbit
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Am a heretic who preferred vg kill anyway

hot creek
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too bad ryuusei doesnt even do a good job of that anyways.

frail orbit
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Tho I do have 831

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At +10

quartz scaffold
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What's 831

frail orbit
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DB cuda

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@hot creek muh aimed torps anyway, besides 831

quartz scaffold
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What should be the gear on warkai

frail orbit
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410

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Triple

quartz scaffold
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Auxes?

frail orbit
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Depends

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SG Rudder
HPFCR Rudder
2SG

quartz scaffold
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Ok thank you DorkHeart

frail orbit
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Aux gun scuttlegun or nepgun

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Prefer scuttlegun for most

hot creek
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457 coming soon™ BuckyPride

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though you might wanna have the Beaver on Centaur and Rudder on WS instead

frail orbit
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@hot creek 381 for faster launch?

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So basically 20s or less on Wakai 1st hit

hot creek
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I don't like the 410 triple. Slow enough to get cucked by Enty. Also loss of VG damage.

frail orbit
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I'd rather prefer skc for that

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Preemptive strike and all by Wakai

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406skc I meant

hot creek
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Yeah but hpfcr already achieves that

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and fast enough to continue shooting before Enty does.

narrow obsidian
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Do any of you guys still have the image of the fleet that named their vanguard Guess Who Does Not Have Oath Skin ?

ripe latch
past egret
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@ripe latch tomorrow begins the reset where I hunt you down owardia1

zenith tundra
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i don't have custom names on in en so i wouldn't see it even if i encounter it

zenith tundra
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new Tier List after FDG dev 30 and 457:

T0
Namagi FDG
Namagi WS
Amagi WS FDG

T0.5
Namaryuu
WFC
HMS WS Monarch QE
Amagi Monarch WS

T1
Namagi Suruga
Namagi Tosa
HMS WS Monarch Cent (i haven't tested this at all)

T2
Namabaka
Namahyuu
HMS KMC
HMS KQC
HFC

Untiered
Nakaga
Amakaga
WASDA
WASDE

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I'm open for discussions

past egret
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WASDE still beats Hiryu Namagi in offense but it’s like a 60/40 reset win ratio

elder crane
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@hot creek
pretty sure HPFCR on 410AP/litt gun is fast enough to have no issues with Enty?

past egret
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And WFC without much issue

elder crane
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The T2 teams do better than that basically PortDoll

zenith tundra
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wfc is not a defense comp

elder crane
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Warkai in general on defense is ehh
Centaur also
and Formi+Centaur even more so

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so yeah, basically a team of 3 ships that are ehh on defense CleveXD

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Also
Warkai Amagi Hiryuu is working out well so far for me in EN PortDoll
JavSigh

zenith tundra
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is literally amagi ws fdg but with hiryuu instead

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i can add it at like t1 if u want

elder crane
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1 more print before I have 4 IJN bofors
and still 37/50 on 457 PortDoll

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well, I'd hold off until that's testable w at least 457 around

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Hiryuu FC also

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Though I think Hiryuu FC gets a lot worse with Azuma around

zenith tundra
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i couldn't beat namagi fdg like at all with that. don't know if i'm missing something but really couldn't beat it

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something like this

elder crane
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Hiryuu FC?
I think the issue might more be azuma

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cause I ran it w killing off vanguard
which was Sirius Jun Ykkz

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though maybe I could try it w Sirius Jun Azuma

zenith tundra
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i think i need to run some weird vg for it then. i still don't have sirius or aurora maxed

elder crane
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Yeah, Aurora is the other option
not sure how viable she is vs Azuma+FdG+Nagato though

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feels like she'd just disappear half the time

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also doesn't help vs Azuma, though idk if you need that?

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iirc I only ran Ryuus on Cent, btw

zenith tundra
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i'll focus on leveling up sirius so i can try next season end. the problem i had is my cv not lasting tho

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i was running it on hiryuu

elder crane
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Well, you should most of the time kill vanguard with first strike

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Hiryuu didn't launch fast enough with Ryuus to sync well iirc

zenith tundra
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that didn't happen for me

elder crane
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might be wrong though

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well, no Sirius/Aurora = ykkz laughs

zenith tundra
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i might have screw up timings since it felt much worse then wfc at killing vg

elder crane
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Okay, that's defs weird

zenith tundra
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or just about the same

elder crane
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Btw, does it kill off azuma reliablyish?

zenith tundra
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the 3 attempts i had i never killed vg

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and none of the backline even died because by 2nd airstrike one of my cv was dead

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i was running fe on formie because fire was killing her too easily

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maybe putting formie on amagi and hiryuu on fdg is better

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but even then that 1s fire really hurts without amagi

elder crane
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I'd put formi flag

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Medium armor cent potentially tanking Nagato barrage sounds... Ehhh

zenith tundra
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i was hoping it wouldn't proc since no spot is actually safe

elder crane
zenith tundra
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formie in that pic had fe rudder

elder crane
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Interesting that Warkai FC works though
How does that not lose ships fast? Or is it not an issue

zenith tundra
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ws tanks fdg

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i think it's both a hp problem and also difference in hit%

elder crane
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How do you "tank" FdG
Does she always hit flag with barrage?

zenith tundra
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opposite backline

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with barrage

elder crane
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Hmm
Maybe FE or Rudder on Cent then?
Or does Cent take too much damage

zenith tundra
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idk i kind of gave up after those attempts since it wasn't working at all. i'm pretty sure my timings were off after i swap to fe but even before i couldn't kill vg in 1 go

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i have to test with juneau sirius azuma/yukikaze

elder crane
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Yeah
Sirius is pretty essential
Given main fleet survivability is an issue, probably Sirius Jun Ykkz then, rather than Sirius Jun Azuma
Also, did you try out the meme Lusty comp the CN wiki group came up with?

zenith tundra
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i don't even know it

zenith tundra
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what would that even do?

elder crane
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Ah, looking at the article, apparently it doesn't do well vs Namagi FdG, I think that's what they're saying?

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I tried it out and it doesn't work without Azuma
though I should've tried it again after Noshiro, probably

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Well, I know what meme I'm using next season, for a while

ripe latch
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T1
Namagi Suruga
Namagi Tosa

SandyMeme

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t1

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1

elder crane
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Turns out Nagato-boosted BBs are good z35wow

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Well, Suruga is more Amagi

zenith tundra
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namagi tosa did beat both namagi ws and namagi fdg

elder crane
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Namabaka I suppose is less reliable?

zenith tundra
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80% wr against namagi fdg and i think it can 90% against namagi ws but didn't have enough tests

elder crane
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Tbh I'm surprised Tosa works better than Baka

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do you have vids up?

zenith tundra
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she is more consistent and somehow her flag aim works against namagi fdg so u don't dump dmg into fdg early

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i had 25 total attempts. 12-3 with juneau mid and 8-2 with juneau lead

elder crane
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ty, will take a closer look later
I'm surprised dumping damage into Nagato is helpful, but I'll see I suppose

zenith tundra
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ws strat aginst namagi fdg is to leave fdg last

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it pretty much works the same just not focused dmg

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also nagato 457 kind of hurts with that luck

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it's just so slow

zenith tundra
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that's namaryuu not namagi fdg

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it works a bit different with fdg setting up fires 1s in

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lusty shield would block hiryuu airstrike but against namagi fdg does nothing

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how tf do 2 people get 101/102 pts from 5 attempts MutsukiCurse

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rip start

hot creek
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its the subsequent shots with 410 that start having problems with enty. first one is fine. @elder crane

zenith tundra
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aren't those random tho?

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is not like it can only hit enty

hot creek
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maybe subsequent shots wasnt the right term. subsequent volleys? Anyways, when its been over minute and enty is still alive, which happens often with wfc, it can become an issue iirc.

zenith tundra
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with wfc i can see it

sterile bluff
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I just found out triple 410 is actually pretty OP SandyDab it does a lot more than mk6

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One volley takes away over half a backline’s hp

elder crane
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Well, that's as much FC timing as it is warkai timing
though beacon C should comfortably outstrip Enty launch by strike 3, you should be hitting your strike before enty even launches at that point

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maybe even strike two if they don't run beacon themselves

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btw
litt gun does ~7% more damage than triple 410 does

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if the only thing that matters is the first ~1 min, then litt gun is pretty much a strict upgrade

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well, vs med/heavy, it does less vs light, but like, 410 AP on light to begin with EntyLUL

whole terrace
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Cent w/ beacon can outpace enty from strike 2 from my experience, and they don't normally run beacon. In fact with QE, cent can outpace her first airstrike lol. I don’t use oaths, should be easier with them

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I’ll have to double check if Warkai + QE boost can outpace enty with MK6

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Also I prefer HE for the burns

zenith tundra
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qe ws there is no reason for ws to use he tho

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qe can set fires

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ws can just delete stuff

whole terrace
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Yeah i use ap on ws with triple BB. I still prefer double he guns with only 2 bb's

coral wren
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just did a classic, lost a match during the last day AkagiLUL

shell heron
hot creek
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fuck, just burned three refreshes rn. I'l probably have to eat +9s next reset since I wanna save my last two for avoiding +8's during final push.

shell heron
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You'll prob still be r1 anyways UniSip

zenith tundra
hot creek
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Yeah probably. I am somehow 7pts above my usual competitors and the rest either lost a match or just not really trying this season. Unless theres some new guy I havent been paying attention to, which has happened once BuckySmug

empty owl
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Um quick question is the auxiliary gear ok for this setup?

zenith tundra
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does dido die fast enough for backline to not die before?

empty owl
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Um kinda it's a little RNG between Dido and Neptune

zenith tundra
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how i would change it would be put pearl bulge/boiler on neptune and swap rudder to didio. with her skill she benefits more then nep from evasion but i don't know how fast neptune dies for pearl

empty owl
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Umu I'll try experimenting

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Thank you

viscid elm
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Quick question ,fdg or nagato as flagship pair with warkai

ripe latch
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if with amagi - nyagato

zenith tundra
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nagato does nothing to ws

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so does fdg

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depends on comp not only ws

prime panther
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has anyone noticed azuma shooting 3 volleys of arching shots with her barrage?

zenith tundra
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i noticed sometimes that she shoots 3 times on barrage but i have no clue why

viscid elm
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How much fdg proc rate againm

prime panther
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apparently if theres an enemy within 30units of her she will shoot 3, otherwise 2

zenith tundra
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fdg in pvp procs barrage every cd because enemy vg is around.

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if that's what u mean

viscid elm
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Oh I read it wrong my bad

zenith tundra
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30 units is like half of a normal gun... that's a low range

viscid elm
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In terms of skill damage? Nagato barrage or fdg barrage?

prime panther
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thats probably why you rarely see it

zenith tundra
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makes sense

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nagato barrage is like strongest barrage in the game tbh

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fdg barrage is good for setting up fires early but dmg wise is nowhere close near nagato. but consider 1 is every 15s other has a 40% chance every 15-17s

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anyway u don't use nagato for her barrage alone. it's her buff that makes her good. if u have good units to make use of it it's usually better then other choices

eager cedar
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relying on 40% proc

ionic magnet
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yikes looks like my list completely ditched pvp already

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refresh or no YorkBruh

vague token
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lul

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just take 10 points

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save refresh for later

ionic magnet
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thing is I'll only get 9 pts if i atk now

zenith tundra
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there is still time. i would save till last 10 min then waste refresh

elder crane
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Yeah, Azuma enhanced barrage portion is either targeted linear 3x3 if close range, normal-CA-shot-style, or targeted arcing 2 volleys of 3 with AoE if longer range

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in PvP it would be better the other way around PortDoll

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AoE close-range vs vanguard
more alpha long-range vs main fleet

zenith tundra
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it would be weird that arching shoots are close and straight far

empty grove
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Ahh yes

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I love 4 dead resets in the last 3 days

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Sasuga AL

hot creek
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Didnt have to use refresh this round, in fact matchmaking gave me a free +11 while climbing BuckyPride

ionic magnet
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my list actually moved last 10 mins

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filthy sandbaggers

empty grove
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If I get another season like this in PVP, i'm done trying tbh

ionic magnet
vague token
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welcome to SP3 rush season

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enjoy your stay

coral wren
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I had to accept a +9 vs +10 so i could get an admiral of navy points.

zenith tundra
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that's pretty usual

coral wren
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I got tartu already, using this time to gain oil for next event and food for ship girls.

shell heron
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My list either already moved or prob wont move last reset

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34 up from me

zenith tundra
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sounds like rightmost pushing all 5

whole terrace
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I got impatient and just ate a minus by mistake YorkBruh

zenith tundra
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12 rudders and still have to swap them around PortDoll

proper sorrel
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fought a #1 and got a +5 GascoCube

zenith tundra
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how many points behind were u?

proper sorrel
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too much

zenith tundra
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i'm curious about the score difference

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for a +5

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u never get to see data like that

proper sorrel
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~750 point difference i guess

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wait this person is now #2 nvm

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i missed 28 attacks this season

zenith tundra
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u only got 15 total for a 750?

proper sorrel
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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my current score compard to their's

zenith tundra
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what rank are u?

proper sorrel
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oh i don't know

zenith tundra
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it's impossible to not know ur rank

proper sorrel
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i am rank 80 now but that was after like 3 or 4 attacks

zenith tundra
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so u don't remember it? was it top 1k?

proper sorrel
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maybe ~300?

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this is amagi server

zenith tundra
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wow

proper sorrel
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top 1k = attack at least 10 times

zenith tundra
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i got +19 for a 1k score difference but my rank was like 6-7k

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that would confirm that rank difference matters for bonus

zenith tundra
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i can confirm that with base score u don't get aotn in avrora

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my final score is 2504 and i didn't hit aotn

coral wren
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Im currently at 2506 with 4 exercises left on avrora. Im assuming zack lost like 6 exercises.

zenith tundra
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nah more like 7-8 for the amount of sandbag i had

coral wren
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Whats your user in avrora?

zenith tundra
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let me double check it

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StellaP

coral wren
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Ah, my name in discord is my user name in avrora.

zenith tundra
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it's not my account i'm playing on avrora

coral wren
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Youre playing it for someone else?

zenith tundra
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yes

frail orbit
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It was peco's acc

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Before being handled by zack

coral wren
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What happened to peco?
Just decided princess connect over azur lane?

zenith tundra
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he got tired of al

eager cedar
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burn out

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i took a month break

zenith tundra
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i take breaks in between events. days where i only do dailies and research/commissions

eager cedar
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im probably gonna take another break, game has little incentive to keep playing for me

coral wren
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Ah, well if you have a life i guess i understand getting burned out.

eager cedar
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Ah, well if you have a life i guess i understand getting burned out.
not even that, shits gets boring

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the feeling of progression is so small, id rather do other stuff

tropic dagger
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is putting beaver badge and washing machine on a d20 lvl111 azuma good for pvp

ionic magnet
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peco already has 100% collection and 1 mil merits so yea

tropic dagger
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that makes her 111 eva and 6k health

zenith tundra
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rip 100% collection tho i failed on casablanca

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use gyroscope rudder on azuma

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u need the speed more then double evasion on her

tropic dagger
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makes sense, it also adds accuracy

midnight heron
zenith tundra
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i added a new sheet to the tier list with the new tiers after fdg dev 30 and 457. it will be temporal for a while and the tiers are not set in stone.

coral wren
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Lost to the top guy in pvp.

He initiated hiryuus ability 5 seconds before i did but somehow killed my hiryuu....

Not sure what happened there.

(It was hiryuu vs hiryuu)

zenith tundra
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most likely his hiryu is faster then yours (faster planes or beacon)

ionic magnet
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stray fighters probably

coral wren
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Well the thing was i was hitting his hiryuu as he killed me with torps

ionic magnet
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happened to me a few times way back when i used hiryuu

coral wren
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Maybe it glitched or something.

ionic magnet
proper sorrel
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oh sometimes hiryuu dies even while' invincible'

zenith tundra
#

that's pure rng if it's stray fighters

karmic forum
#

I've never heard a case where hiryuu dies while she procs

zenith tundra
#

never happened once to me

coral wren
#

Happened to me twice actually

proper sorrel
#

only happened once for me tbh

coral wren
#

Last time was about 4 months ago

proper sorrel
#

enemy warkai broke thru hiryuu's ability

karmic forum
#

Are you sure she didn't just proc much earlier in the fight?

proper sorrel
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i doubt it, she had around 30% hp

coral wren
#

Mine didnt i was paying attention to that so i could decide to reset

karmic forum
#

Sometimes you get bad enemy torp patterns and that + warkai can early proc

zenith tundra
#

final counter can proc even at like 20-30% hp depending on how strong the attack that killed her is

karmic forum
#

But the thing is that she will still look like shes healthy.

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You never notice the proc and get surprised when she dies later

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Because I'm pretty sure hiryuu can't die while she procs

zenith tundra
#

if an attack does 50% of her hp in 1 attack and she is at 50% hp she'll final counter with 50% hp left

coral wren
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It was going to be plus 2 for me.
Ill get them next time.

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In my case, my hiryuu was still 60% hp but my other ships killed each other off... it was my 60% hiryuu vs their final encounter hiryuu. Which then dropped my hiryuu to like 0% which initiated her final encounter.

karmic forum
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It happens sometimes

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The airstrike timings don't work out sometimes.

zenith tundra
#

that's just either some random fighters triggered by barrages or opponent hiryuu being faster then urs

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also if opponent hiryuu has more hp will take longer to dies then urs

coral wren
#

Pretty trash though. It could also be rnguss that the torps i hit her with 'missed'

zenith tundra
#

bombs land before torp but that can happen too that ur misses

keen sparrow
#

so far i nvr see hiryuu proc at 50% BuckyStare

zenith tundra
#

that was an example

karmic forum
#

I've had hiryuu proc above 50% before

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Stray aya torp that crit.

coral wren
#

I dont always paid attention to when it proc

empty grove
#

You wait until both your hiryuu's die at the same time

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& you get a loss

zenith tundra
#

lol

empty grove
#

It scarred me

keen sparrow
#

it sometime trolling me like even she still have 10% she not proc n after next salvo the fc proc or my vg lucky enough to slap torpedo into hiryu face MakinaSmug

zenith tundra
#

using defensive gear usually avoids the situation all together. the later she procs final counter the least chances of rng screwing u

shell heron
#

nobody wins UniSip

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more so their loss means nothing

keen sparrow
#

now im only use 381 mona gun n QE for make enemy hiryu fc early MakinaSmug

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if 1st barrage no miss then next salvo it will fc BuckyPride

zenith tundra
#

ap should do a better job at dealing dmg

shell heron
#

I want to try the litt gun, but matches are sometimes lasting more than 2 salvos

keen sparrow
#

but 410 3s more than 381? n sometime i nid kill hiryu fast before enemy elixer die n full hp again UniSip

#

at least now amagi is come but i strugle to lvl her up MakinaSmug

zenith tundra
#

410 is base 20.10 triple 381 19.33

keen sparrow
#

i will try using 410 in next season Thinkpitz

zenith tundra
#

wait i was looking at wrong column PortDoll

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it is much slower

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my bad

keen sparrow
zenith tundra
#

u can try littorio gun if u have that. it's just as fast and does more damage then 410 on 1st 2 shoots

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then it just slows down a bit

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but should be fine till before 4th round

keen sparrow
#

i dont have that gun UniSip
i will using mona gun till 457 come MakinaSmug

zenith tundra
#

too bad

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@shell heron even with 3rd salvo being slower it should still be better damage overall

proper sorrel
#

btw rusher BuckySmug

zenith tundra
#

too bad for that vg

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it's not a bad comp

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even tho i don't like amagi bot easy snipe

proper sorrel
#

too bad all my ships in JP are a joke

#

I played the game the way i wanted to play it and now im quite stuck

zenith tundra
#

how do u get stuck in a waifu game?

proper sorrel
#

I can't clear w12

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i mean

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ofc i can clear it if i actually took the time to use ships that are on the tier list

zenith tundra
#

u leveled wrong ships sounds normal

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i took my time leveling up ships to clear w13

proper sorrel
#

I do have pretty good ships on my dock to clear w13 i think

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so SandyParty

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time to start dorming ships i guess

zenith tundra
#

dorm only takes forever for 120... after 6 subs that way i'd rather grind the ship

proper sorrel
#

i can do the rest after they reach around 90

shell heron
#

maybe I should +10 a litt gun after all

proper sorrel
#

mk, so I'll start leveling QE, Casablanca, Warkai, Leander, Ranger, Z46, London, Langley, Swiftsure, Dido, Ise, Sandy Kai, Hood, Helena, Pheonix, Yukikaze, Montpelier, Chapayev, Bremerton, Tashkent, Arizona, Oklahoma, Juneau, Sirius, Tosa, Chaser, Z23, Ajax, Shigure, Yat Sen, Ning Hai, Ping Hai, Newcastle, Tanikaze, Yamashiro, Fusou, Vestal, Amazon, BB Kaga, Kaga, Avrora, Biloxi, Ark Royal, Houshou, Z1, Curlew, Illustrious, Bel-Chan, Hiryuu, Souryuu, Mogami, and Black Prince on my main guess

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they're all level 1 (in my brain)

zenith tundra
#

u should use all ships as commission folder so when u need them they aren't way too low level

proper sorrel
#

I should start with uhh

karmic forum
#

Only ships I keep at level 1 and lolis and collabs

zenith tundra
#

i have no locked ship at level 1

proper sorrel
#

I'm going to start with Vestal, San Diego (Retrofit), Tashkent, Yukikaze, and Avrora i guess

eager cedar
proper sorrel
#

phew just bought 10 000 oil worth of curry

empty grove
eager cedar
#

ssg whale

shell heron
#

wish I had extra oil to buy food

#

out of non gem food, other than oxy cola

zenith tundra
#

i don't play enough to use all the oil i get

proper sorrel
#

i focused a lot on EN azur lane so i had too much oil piling up

zenith tundra
#

it was down around 8k with w11hm and event but now back at 12k+

karmic forum
#

I'm running out of food as well

eager cedar
#

im just trying to get the 24 120 uss medal so i can fuck off from al for a while UniSip

karmic forum
#

Turns out that you can actually run out if you never buy food using oil or coins

#

And you get bad luck from the medal shop

zenith tundra
#

i'm running out of medals because too much food lately in exchange

proper sorrel
#

waiting to get vampire day 279

zenith tundra
#

and it all just disappeared like nothing

proper sorrel
#

it's the first ship i ever wanted when i first started playing

karmic forum
#

Lucky

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I wish I had something to do with my 1200+ medals

zenith tundra
#

i have 149

empty grove
#

Idek how many I have

zenith tundra
#

did u reach 1m yet?

proper sorrel
#

just bought prince of wales for 80 medals, im at 30

shell heron
#

merits? I was getting there but IB boxes and cubes called for me

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990k atm

zenith tundra
#

no kurumi medals.... considering how much he farms

karmic forum
#

Probably over 3000

keen sparrow
#

vampire? ah ic rie tsun fans GWomoDrakeYea

shell heron
#

3k+ sounds about right

karmic forum
#

Farming events tend to give you a lot

proper sorrel
#

I made like ~300 medals in the recent USS event

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wait no

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that was the russia event

keen sparrow
#

medal just for buy food MakinaSmug

karmic forum
#

Kurumi do you have dev30 FDG yet?

keen sparrow
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n some bp

shell heron
#

you mean red books

keen sparrow
#

my red book is 0 MakinaSmug

zenith tundra
#

tbh i don't really care about books since i don't have good ships to level skills on or any that i want to use

#

after i finish a new event good ships skill end up leveling random stuff

shell heron
#

we'll find out soon if Kurumi has dev30 FdG

#

will be on that def comp

karmic forum
#

I'll be awake for this reset so I guess we will

keen sparrow
#

soon fdg n azuma d30 will around MakinaSmug

proper sorrel
#

peak azur lane moment

shell heron
#

If my bp count is anything to go by.

karmic forum
#

I plan on sandbagging seriously next season

shell heron
#

the average player is only working towards dev25

eager cedar
karmic forum
#

50/50 on whether I'll keep at it though

#

Sometimes I just forget to do PvP before I sleep

keen sparrow
#

i just hope nt over sleep n 5 tix gone in next season MakinaSmug

proper sorrel
#

i hope i don't lose like 30 attacks next season

shell heron
#

I might stop tryharding pvp next season depending on how work goes

#

I got r2 once, I peaked UniSip

zenith tundra
#

i'm pretty sure average player is more like 22 then 25

shell heron
#

what a coincidence. I'm at 22

keen sparrow
#

soon i canot do 10min fight before reset if azuma n fdg come UniSip

shell heron
#

slackers are prob farther behind

zenith tundra
#

unlucky people too. i'm at 21

keen sparrow
#

im 29 MakinaSmug

karmic forum
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I'm at 22 for both

shell heron
#

I should throw cubes at blues

#

not like I need this many

zenith tundra
#

give me some. i don't even have 100

coral wren
#

My azuma is at dev 15
Fdg is at dev 20

I started solely aiming for those two in December xD

karmic forum
#

The average player isn't even doing PR2 probably

coral wren
#

My azuma and fdg were lvl 120 even before hitting dev 10 xD

karmic forum
#

I was going to wait until a ring pack to oath DRs and finish 120 but that was a couple of months ago.

coral wren
#

In my defense my rngs is trash and i had not started using cube research until a week ago

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My azuma and fdg are @ 200 intimacy

eager cedar
#

same, i was also waiting for ring pack but i bit the bullet and bought one for tosa cause reasons....

zenith tundra
#

why wasting it on tosa?

shell heron
#

last hour. time for the slow move so I don't get stalled out with 9 matches

karmic forum
#

I usually only oath ships that I really like but I'm making an exception for DRs

eager cedar
#

waifu

zenith tundra
#

good reason i guess

eager cedar
#

shes what i wanted nagato to be like

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not a loli, badass but enough femine charm at the same time

zenith tundra
#

i pick amagi over both

coral wren
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I like nagato as is. I like modest bodied girls as well as semi thick ones.

eager cedar
#

i just dont like lolis

coral wren
#

I thought renos body was a bit over the top

zenith tundra
#

i hate reno just for the 500 cubes wasted

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she can't ever be a waifu for me

coral wren
#

I feel your pain, happened to me for rossiya

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I almost quit because i ran out of cubes

zenith tundra
#

i wish more ships like noshiro were released

karmic forum
#

I used to be a collector but now I'm ok with not getting every ship in a banner.

#

Its better for DR progress anyways

coral wren
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Im still aiming for 100% no luck during last french ship event.

zenith tundra
#

i'm not investing cubes into research unless 500+ cubes and not gonna do it with dev 30 already

coral wren
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Im going to whale for pr ships >.>

eager cedar
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im recovering from last event, 200+ for tosa

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close to 500, then ill cube research

cerulean estuary
#

i wish they will add PR prints on DAILIES , coz adding the pr3 will be burden to new players

proper sorrel
#

i couldn't get amagi after using all my cubes BelCry

zenith tundra
#

i'm at 500 in jp but nothing to use them on. in en got down to 14 after reno 500 and tosa 260

proper sorrel
#

@cerulean estuary that profile picture FumizukiCross

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you didn't have to do this

cerulean estuary
#

ei zack its super hot as hell here in our country , its only for referrence WichitaDealWithIt

proper sorrel
zenith tundra
#

yesterday here was summer like hot too

proper sorrel
#

it's winter-like cold here

coral wren
#

Once i see pr3 come out and the metas are formed, im prepping to go all out on it when it comes out on global.

proper sorrel
#

it was snowing a bit up north where i live

coral wren
#

Where i live it was like 100° F
But i still wear my wool jacket until about 120°F
I dont use ac

zenith tundra
#

why wait for pr3 for meta when en still doesn't have pr 2 meta...

proper sorrel
#

I wear my jacket until it's no higher than 40C

eager cedar
#

people are just gonna complain about too much grinding like they do with pr2

zenith tundra
#

people always complain about pr grind

eager cedar
#

i wish those people would play a real heavy grind kusoge

proper sorrel
#

i heard there is going to be a UR ship

eager cedar
cerulean estuary
#

thank god "there's an UNCLE SHOP" near which sells some sweets and popsicles OwariWOKE

coral wren
#

Just imagine if they make pr3 a rock paper scissor like meta. All of them are DR, all create different metas.

proper sorrel
#

wait do people know the term 'kusoge'?

eager cedar
#

some do

#

some dont

proper sorrel
#

how are new people going to get more pr1 prints

zenith tundra
#

by ur u mean dr? i don't really want to see any base ur ship without it being a retro and ur retro are already dumb

proper sorrel
#

oh right DR

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the rainbow rarity

zenith tundra
#

i would expect any new pr season to have at least 1 dr from now on

eager cedar
#

by ur u mean dr? i don't really want to see any base ur ship without it being a retro and ur retro are already dumb
tell that to the people wanting entry kai and other stupid shit like that

coral wren
#

Enty kai, with now the same ability as hiryuu.

zenith tundra
#

why enty kai when she is a good ship already

keen sparrow
#

pr3?

#

we nid op carrier GWomoDrakeYea

#

or enty retro MakinaSmug

zenith tundra
#

we need aa reduction

#

not broken carriers

eager cedar
#

Shinano will be the op carrier

#

savior of ijn carriers

cerulean estuary
#

they base pr3 on wow shifus

eager cedar
proper sorrel
#

carriers are already quite broken

keen sparrow
#

we dont have cv n submarine PR MakinaSmug

eager cedar
#

i just want an op ijn gun ship on par with minne/baltimore

zenith tundra
#

i'll quit the game if u need to farm xp with subs

keen sparrow
#

1.2m exp n 2.4m exp for subs MakinaSmug

eager cedar
#

i hated the idea of subs then and i still hate their mechanics now

keen sparrow
eager cedar
#

my highest sub is 109

zenith tundra
#

i have 6 at 120

coral wren
#

Highest is 120, and i only have 2 of them at that strength

zenith tundra
#

all dorm only

keen sparrow
#

mine stuck at 105 n nvr up coz waste MakinaSmug

eager cedar
#

i just have zero need for them, i never call them in GWchinaMaikaWut

coral wren
#

Sometimes they arent waste as they can provide a lot of fire power if you are 1:1 areas

keen sparrow
#

i call them for more xp for shikan lv MakinaSmug

proper sorrel
#

is there even a way to move submarines across the map

zenith tundra
#

i sometimes call them when auto if screwing around and dying

eager cedar
#

en hq lvl cap raise when..

#

yes, it costs oil to move them around map

zenith tundra
#

the icon with the path

proper sorrel
#

oh right thaat

coral wren
#

V-1 flying bomb when?

zenith tundra
#

sub only maps would be interesting but having to waste oil on both surface ships and subs to use them in battle is a pain

proper sorrel
#

I'd like to use more than 2 fleets in a map

zenith tundra
#

rainbow sub torp... what a waste of bps

empty grove
#

My subs all got dormed

#

Except for the last level cause I farmed out 90-100 affection

eager cedar
#

i want to see a 200 affection sub

empty grove
#

Maybe when I feel like wasting oil

eager cedar
#

dont tell you have one

empty grove
#

Nah

#

My highest is like 134

karmic forum
#

Who oaths a sub?

empty grove
#

I barely use subs

eager cedar
#

oh good, you havnt went off the rails

#

yet

zenith tundra
#

subs are still waifus and people oath waifus

eager cedar
empty grove
#

I'll oath them later

eager cedar
#

the oil cost hurts my head

empty grove
#

You can run them for like

#

26 oil tho

karmic forum
#

Subs are pretty oil efficient for what they offer

eager cedar
empty grove
#

That's what I did when I rushed final level

zenith tundra
#

subs are. subs + surface fleet isn't

empty grove
#

Just two 0lbs & call in

eager cedar
#

the day al forces sub mechanics down my throat is probably the day ill stop playing

empty grove
shell heron
#

Oh look. IvanNoir again UniSip

empty grove
#

Did you end up getting hanazuki cay?

shell heron
#

I was missing naganami

empty grove
#

Ohh

shell heron
#

and yes got her

karmic forum
#

I'm still missing naganami

empty grove
#

I just remember seeing like 376 cubes

#

My experience was the opposite

#

I got fed naganami & got screwed on hanazuki

karmic forum
#

I wasn't rolling hard for her though

empty grove
#

I was

karmic forum
#

Just hoping I'd get her in dailies but I never did

empty grove
#

Worst event since nep

#

& it was a rerun

karmic forum
#

My reasoning is that she'll eventually get added to light

shell heron
#

it was the elites that screwed me hard this time. worse banner before was 320ish cubes

karmic forum
#

And I can just pull her from dailies or wishing well

proper sorrel
#

ashigara was hard to get for me

shell heron
#

I played original CE. You would think 3 new ships is easier

empty grove
#

It took me like

#

260 cubes for 47

#

Fuck reruns

shell heron
#

when you got enough Amagis to MLB her again. plus an extra

karmic forum
#

Sometimes they nerf the gatcha rates for reruns

eager cedar
#

i just needed the 3 new ones, got 2 in a single 10roll, tosa took me about 200+

empty grove
#

That's my experience too

#

Had all but one in two 10 pulls

#

Then death

proper sorrel
#

i couldn't get amagi of all the ships

eager cedar
#

amagilet

empty grove
#

Also PVP

eager cedar
#

they still exist UniHurt

shell heron
#

yes PvP

zenith tundra
#

i didn't get tosa and hanazuki in jp till 200 cubes

shell heron
#

13 minutes

zenith tundra
#

both same 10 pull

shell heron
#

getting another +1 will be hard. Just hoping I don't eat many +9s

empty grove
#

I forsee 2 +9s for me

eager cedar
shell heron
#

gonna be between 96 and 99 for me

empty grove
#

Inb4 -3

shell heron
#

I'm more concerned my router screws me over more than losing a match

zenith tundra
#

get a new one MutsukiCurse

karmic forum
#

Wondering how much of a bonus I'll get into the new season

empty grove
#

Don't

#

Starting base is far higher than there

karmic forum
#

Why not?

empty grove
#

Cause you'll get like

#

24 points

#

Instead of 30+

karmic forum
#

Well I guess I can pop it now

zenith tundra
#

he'll get like 15-20 pts not 24

karmic forum
#

I think I'll get around 30

empty grove
#

Is that first or 2nd

karmic forum
#

My rank is pretty low

empty grove
#

Yeah more like 20

#

That's how cay got eld stalled into another season

#

Got 9 point carry over on a base 30

eager cedar
proper sorrel
#

wait points carryover?

empty grove
#

If you finish a match too late

karmic forum
#

If you skip a season you can begin the next one with a pretty good bonus

empty grove
#

You get the EOS score applied to season start

#

So 9-11 instead of 30~

shell heron
#

10 point start

#

perfect

proper sorrel
#

i feel like that's cheating

empty grove
#

I think my game crashed

#

Ohh fuck

ionic magnet
shell heron
#

panic

empty grove
#

Nvm

#

I'm good

ionic magnet
#

im done gl gl

karmic forum
#

Ah it was 29

empty grove
#

Just massive lag

#

I might get 2nd

#

Pray for me

karmic forum
#

So basically the equivalent of a small boost

zenith tundra
#

it was +14 with 15 base

karmic forum
#

I'm praying for you to get 2nd

eager cedar
zenith tundra
#

expected since maximum bonus is base score -1

empty grove
#

I got no -

#

Big meme

#

From getting 4 dead resets

#

To a +5 & no minus

#

Sasuga AL

shell heron
#

can't lose now. if I do it's over

light crystal
#

When you get greedy at 1/10 while at Fourth, and try to fish for a 10p five times in a row and get an 8p instead of a 9th ♿

empty grove
#

Yeah

#

I always save a refresh to prevent that

ionic magnet
#

1 min cay UniYan

empty grove
#

Inb4 season stall again

#

Well

#

I expected 2596

shell heron
#

I for it in PortDoll

#

cutting it too close there

karmic forum
#

Wait HooLoo actually won

light crystal
forest lake
empty grove
#

That +5 blessed him

ionic magnet
#

yea this wont happen ever again

shell heron
ionic magnet
empty grove
#

Haven't you won before tho?

shell heron
#

that last +9 costed me

proper sorrel
#

wow you beat famine

ionic magnet
#

just 2nd twice

empty grove
eager cedar
empty grove
#

Who was it that got first here

eager cedar
#

the future is now old man

empty grove
karmic forum
#

Lol I see a few people who got screwed by reset.

empty grove
#

Grats tho

#

Yeah

#

The +9 is funny

#

Screwed the entire season

light crystal
#

I've gotten 1st back2back before, those were the days WarPat

empty grove
#

I think I got first like

#

9 times in a row last year

#

I miss when Novae used to do it

shell heron
#

oh boy, that game disconnection almost got me PortDoll

#

right into needing a reset

empty grove
#

I think I logged too late

light crystal
#

Until they implement a proper Scoreboard showing the results from the previous season it won't feel that it matters much MonarchMad

empty grove
#

Back to the true meta comp

cerulean estuary
#

need more popsicles OwariWOKE

shell heron
#

you know what was missing? Collusion with Kiro

dull elm
empty grove
#

Hang on

eager cedar
#

collusion aganist tos

empty grove
#

Did no one screenshot the season

#

I was on AK

shell heron
#

I did

#

scroll up

karmic forum
#

Why is amagi so low?

empty grove
#

Ahh ok

#

I'm just blind

dull elm
#

cant sandbag in amagi lmao

mint hornet
#

If 35 points up is +1 in the end. How much for +extra in the early season?

dull elm
#

everybody just losing points in the end

karmic forum
#

Like holy shit those scores are 70 points behind av

proper sorrel
#

oh you're deathshead

#

i've lost to you like 3 times and i am very mad

zenith tundra
dull elm
#

hello xd

empty grove
#

EOS points depends on how many people actually do PVP

#

It's why JP has like 2610 sometimes

proper sorrel
#

make your fleet weaker pls I really wanted that bonus

ionic magnet
#

dang those amagi scores

empty grove
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This is meta

zenith tundra
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@mint hornet check that spreadsheet it has what is known as of now

dull elm
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+10 equips on most gl with that

proper sorrel
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I need good vanguard ships right now tbh

mint hornet
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Gotcha ty

proper sorrel
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I got WaSD+ sl10 hiryuu kai

dull elm
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i miss yukikaze, shigure really isnt on yuki level xd

whole terrace
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I'm gonna try sandbagging in amagi this season since my fleet is stronger. Will see how it goes

empty grove
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Who's the highest level on Amagi

proper sorrel
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running
South Dakota/Washington/Hiryuu
Portland/Laffey/Leander for pvp

shell heron
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I see lvl 70s last I checked

proper sorrel
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I see level 76s

empty grove
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I remember Tsun on avrora

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Dude was like 100+ when everyone else was around 70

dull elm
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lv 81 prob highest

shell heron
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ooh an early r11

whole terrace
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I got 8th on avrora, had a terrible last two resets. I always miss cay's screenshots

zenith tundra
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even a 125 is still 33... same as 121

narrow meadow
empty grove
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Look at the oaths

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& ship level

narrow meadow
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120s with 1 oath between the two thinking

proper sorrel
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I got a rank 4 on my radar

narrow meadow
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they're built fleets for sure

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but not great ships in the fleets

empty grove
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I usually wait out like 10 minutes per set of people

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& then refresh

eager cedar
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oh a 30 on my list

narrow meadow
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prince of wales on the left looking like a snack

shell heron
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right, we already got that score difference

narrow meadow
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oohoooooo did a refresh and they're petty officer 😍

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now we're cooking with gas

proper sorrel
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I am doing something else and i really wanna pvp

dull elm
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yeah 15ice using any carrier against me is bad idea lol, isuzu just recks all planes, might as well u even dont use hiyruu against GWcorbinTopKek

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does nothing

proper sorrel
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nah I got my avi gas UniFlex

empty grove
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That early game meta

shell heron
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that changes nothing on the sheet UniSip

narrow meadow
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tfw over 400 runs of 7-3 and no isuzu rivers

proper sorrel
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yeah it does nuffin

dull elm
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shigure is my biggest weakness lol tbh

proper sorrel
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i need more planes to overrun this

empty grove
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You don't wanna know how many runs Isuzu took me

zenith tundra
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petty officer and ensign are dead as entries

narrow meadow
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rly wanted her too

eager cedar
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i find isuzu too squishy for my liking, then again mine is only 116 but still

proper sorrel
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I can use South Dakota + Washington + Warspite

narrow meadow
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hmm should i slap that rank 112 now?

eager cedar
karmic forum
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Debating whether I should take my third bonus now or wait until the next reset

proper sorrel
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do i wanna strike this rank 51

zenith tundra
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if he rushed all 5 attempts sure

narrow meadow
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he did rush all 5!

shell heron
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really hard to get data on 1st 3 ranks

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they pass by so quick

narrow meadow
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look at that, you see that in your opponent's fleet and its like christmas morning

shell heron
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Private is a little easier

proper sorrel
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how much points is when they used all their attacks

empty grove
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Around 120

karmic forum
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100-130

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Depending on how early they rushed

zenith tundra
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120-125 is good

proper sorrel
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118

ionic magnet
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@whole terrace are you eryuelle?

zenith tundra
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some get 115 from 5 too

empty grove
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They did all

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Wasn't his name the same in game

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I swear I saw it

ionic magnet
shell heron
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same

karmic forum
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Maybe we missed him

zenith tundra
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i saw him in ss

eager cedar
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he is

proper sorrel
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this stalling fleet is somewhat annoying

eager cedar
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he said he only got #8

proper sorrel
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eugen portland aurora unicorn illustrious

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free win ¯_(ツ)_/¯

narrow meadow
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got some great 2nd opponents 😋 could be the season i finally shoot for aotn

eager cedar
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using attacks already MakinaSmug

narrow meadow
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only 1, its hard to resist :p

ionic magnet
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ok back to sp3 PortDoll

karmic forum
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I might actually be getting 3 this time

zenith tundra
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i use 3 early and 2 later in the 2nd reset

empty grove
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Yep

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3 early & 2 later is good

narrow meadow
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and my first opponents used their first 5 exercises so yeah, fair game as far as im concerned

karmic forum
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First three try to get as close to 100 as possible without actually passing it

empty grove
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Then wait until next refresh

proper sorrel
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hoping for top 10

eager cedar
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oh two people are moving in my list GWagnwChinoWoah

karmic forum
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Would be pretty hard to pass 100 with 3 anyways

shell heron
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Banking on all 5 after has high payout but very high risk

proper sorrel
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way to high risk for me

narrow meadow
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if i wait til later i'll get grouped up with rank 14k-11k for sure

whole terrace
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@ionic magnet same in game name

narrow meadow
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oh hell yeah 2nd opponents are moving up in ranks too

karmic forum
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Did you wait till the last minute to rush?

ionic magnet
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oh sry i didnt see

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another sandbagger noted

zenith tundra
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i think he got pushed out of top 10 at the end

empty grove
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Did you end up versing my comp with lead juneau btw

zenith tundra
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i saw him in top 10 ingame but he isn't in the ss

shell heron
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If i faced your comp. I would have started +9 this season PortDoll

crude mortar
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is this eatable

proper sorrel
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meh

shell heron
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Looks like a +32 or 31

crude mortar
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should I eat or not

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i out of refresh

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refresh into all lv90-100

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x5

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x5

eager cedar
crude mortar
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*x4 x5

ionic magnet
zenith tundra
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oh that looks more like what i saw ingame

empty grove
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That's some late pushing

shell heron
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I see me as r4. Yep, you're r8

empty grove
shell heron
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That was last 30s

narrow meadow
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how does one get Avrora role? thinking