pvp

[zenith tundra]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Combat#Ship_Power_Rating

i'm still confused why is it in combat section since it makes it harder to find tbh

[crude mortar]

why people had an obession over fleet power

[zenith tundra]

idk. if it would be more useful then just memes i would understand

[marsh bane]

stacking it in mailbox for event
@crude mortar exactly xD

[crude mortar]

[midnight heron]

do u guys even legit hav a use for so much mail lul

[marsh bane]

Maybe

210k points

[shell heron]

ofc we do

it's reserve oil for heavy gear farming when an event comes out

[zenith tundra]

1 event ever required that and past like 5 guns it's for laziness of not swapping gear

[midnight heron]

ic

[empty grove]

[junior trench]

How? You can only have up to 100 mail I thought

[zenith tundra]

1000 max

[junior trench]

Oh

[sterile bluff]

i can kind of see the point of saving oil and coins in mail cuz of softcap

but anything else is kinda pointless

[hot creek]

tbh the only reason why I oathed nagato was because I was racing cyaneko. Also nagato is kinda cute.

[sterile bluff]

false claim

[terse birch]

@prime panther 🙏

[sterile bluff]

bruh

zack admitted the truth

[zenith tundra]

like half of the players aren't

[terse birch]

newbie question, what affects the amount of points earned?

I'm aiming for admiral of the navy and I want to improve my chances

[zenith tundra]

score gains is base score + bonus. the bonus is based on the difference in score in between u and the opponent u attack

after captain rank it takes a 35 score difference for a +1 bonus score

[terse birch]

it's that simple?

[zenith tundra]

works in most basic cases u will encounter usually

[terse birch]

my biggest worry was having to change my fleet for weaker enemies 😛

but in that case I'll just keep the same fleet between battles

[zenith tundra]

the few exceptions seem to be when bonus gains are high. for example a +5 or more bonus at 17 base seems to take more points then it should

@hot creek do u still have the pic of the fight at 35 difference that didn't give u a +1

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

Probably. I'd have to dig hard though lol.

[empty grove]

I've been fucked on 70 a few times but never on 35

[zenith tundra]

if u want to. it would be interesting to check if fleet power actually matters at all

[shell heron]

I seen it once myself too but didn't ss it back then

not sure what exactly caused it

[empty grove]

Did you actually log to refresh rank?

[light crystal]

So my peeps, Ive gone to using Nagato again

[zenith tundra]

phoenix checked in top 100 iirc

[light crystal]

Suruga makes for a stronger Backline, but when I think that my Noshiro and YKKZ are losing out on Reload, Hit and Torp, it's hard to justify not useing Nagato

[zenith tundra]

the only thing that was really harder for me was killing yukikaze tbh. those buffs are pretty relevant for azuma

[shell heron]

fought trump last reset. pretty significant buffs

somewhat hard to kill a dev30 azuma with my initial torps wiffing

[empty grove]

I still haven't seen another dev 30

[ripe latch]

ppl with azuma dev25-30 around top1000 usually

[zenith tundra]

u can't really tell in between 20-29 unless u know what she is using

[ripe latch]

found on pvp only this guy

[marsh bane]

Washy

[hot creek]

tbh Im not sure if that pic of me not getting bonus with +35 exists. Im not even 100% sure it happened. Might have been confused with a +70 pic

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

i'll search in discord

[hot creek]

Wheres yo fdg

[empty grove]

[light crystal]

So I'm using this for Defense now.

[hot creek]

if you do find the chat, tell me the date. my puush links from the past are usually dead so Ill have to find the pic on my computer.

[light crystal]

I simply switch out Hiryuu for this Warspite for Attack.

Two things to mention. For Hiryuu, I use VT18 over Ryuseis cuz A) Parallel torps do more DMG against VG's, Ryuseis only do 188 Crash DMG, VT18's do 300, they do increased DMG against BB's and small Flood.

[prime panther]

they make everything do increased dmg to BBs iirc

[light crystal]

I also have mixed feelings about using Rudder on Warspite for Attack

[crude mortar]

34 point

[empty grove]

[light crystal]

I think SG + WH is a good combo. I never have my Warspite duke it out against another WS anyway, if I can help it. That's the only scenario where I can see Rudder on WS being mandatory, even for Attack-only purposes

[crude mortar]

motherfker

why cant he just bag +1

[prime panther]

thats on you for sandbagging to hard

[crude mortar]

i stop bagging since day8 I wake up in the midnight cuz alarm with my body half away and my eye blur,I missclick the pause 5 in a row and lose once,I learn something I have to bind key instead of trying to click the screen while half sleep

*half awake

[ripe latch]

stats....

[empty grove]

Did you check your lists ranking before it refreshed?

You can tell if someone will be able to give you a plus from 35 or not

[coral wren]

[crude mortar]

he 34 above my head

[zenith tundra]

plus 35

[shell heron]

yea 34 is just 1 off

[empty grove]

plus 35

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

This is why you sleep longer than 4 hours

[crude mortar]

I bind key now

if I need reset I press button

instead of clicking

[zenith tundra]

i slept 2 hr past maint start today... ignored alarm all together and lost attempts again on both jp and en

[crude mortar]

[empty grove]

I was close yesterday

4 mins to reset

[crude mortar]

got my merit

cya next season

[empty grove]

Managed to get 5 matches

All refreshes gone

-1

[crude mortar]

hello peaceful sleep

[zenith tundra]

u need last 1

[crude mortar]

if you play 3 account

at the end of season u can use 2 other account feeding isn';t it

[empty grove]

Assuming you refreshed into your own account

& had the commitment to mass sandbag on 3

[crude mortar]

the chance isn't low tho

[zenith tundra]

Assuming you refreshed into your own account
which is way harder then it seems

[empty grove]

The commitment makes that chance low

Like Cay & Kiro

[crude mortar]

but i see simillar face all the time

remembe them from their custom name

r

[shell heron]

Collusion

[vague token]

i dont understand how only cay rolls me

in the mid-end season

[zenith tundra]

i rolled u once

[vague token]

yeah, once

cay has rolled me like 5+ now total

[shell heron]

When I find kiro almost every other reset

[eager cedar]

i rolled you like 3x but that was after i stopped caring about this season

[empty grove]

I rolled cay just before

That damn eldridge

[vague token]

lul

[empty grove]

Entire backline gone

Eld is still there

[shell heron]

[zenith tundra]

use twin 130 on azuma it helps

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

i used that with nagato buff broken and yukikaze would die significantly faster then with 138.6

[shell heron]

you mock Eldridge until she survives

[vague token]

personally i use 127 cause aa xD

[shell heron]

kinda why I won't drop belfast

[empty grove]

130 was the russian gun right

[shell heron]

oh yea I ungeared her

lets fix that

[empty grove]

Yeah the russian one

[zenith tundra]

yes trashkent gun

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

hmmm, armor over rudder

[empty grove]

I don't like armour on azuma

It's fine on anything minus torp memes

[vague token]

just use noshiro

xD

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

i didn't either but the only real fights are against all bb comps so who cares

[vague token]

noshiro practically brings the heavy back down to medium

130 * .8 is like 104

[zenith tundra]

i might consider rudder when testing namagi tosa against namaryuu

[vague token]

so you only take 4% more from torps xD

[empty grove]

I mean I could try dropping juneau

Worked fine when I ran torp memes before azuma

[coral wren]

petition for namagi toesa to be called namatoe

[zenith tundra]

what the e at the end stands for?

[coral wren]

well, toesa

but doesnt matter tho, can remove the e

still works

[zenith tundra]

idk any ship by that name

[coral wren]

mans serious af

then namato it is

[zenith tundra]

it's not even an actual comp tbh. i don't think it does well against anything or any better then other comps

[coral wren]

well not yet, maybe it can be an actual comp

[zenith tundra]

i'm pretty sure i'm the only one around that actually oathed tosa for tests

[vague token]

havent even hit 100 yet

but i want her for clearing utility xD

[zenith tundra]

i'm sad that i just safe level 11-4 hard mode. it was so nice xp for her

[crude mortar]

how do you lvling 11-4

1:1?

[coral wren]

clearing mode off?

[zenith tundra]

3:3

[crude mortar]

[zenith tundra]

god damn requirements are stupid u need 6 vg to hit torp and evasion

[vague token]

eww

[coral wren]

sounds bad

[crude mortar]

11 hard?

[zenith tundra]

and can't survive without ryuuhou heal with max backline so 3:3 it is

well at least before low threat levels and even then u need dmg to kill bb before they kill u

1250 evasion is really stupid

[ripe latch]

but they not add 11 hard to wiki

[zenith tundra]

is w10hm even there?

last time i checked it wasn't

[vague token]

i dont think it is yet but i forget

[zenith tundra]

w10hm requirements are actually nice. 1.2k torp and fp for all maps

[ripe latch]

found on jp wiki

|| https://www.bilibili.com/video/bv1o64y1T7pF ||

[zenith tundra]

i use azuma in 11-4. she does like 60k+ dmg

[prime panther]

did they not change sendais torp damage?

[zenith tundra]

not sure i noticed anything it was almost safe level anyway

[ripe latch]

|| BOSS battle description: The torpedo barrage correction in Sichuan (common to 11-4 is also special) is special, for light and medium heavy armor: 100% / 75% / 40%, which is contrary to our usual concept of torpedo correction of heavy armor. (Our equipment torpedo correction is 80% / 100% / 130%) ||

[vague token]

wait what

[zenith tundra]

nice tl. if i'm understanding correctly it was doing 100% vs light before and now does 80%?

[ripe latch]

BOSS战说明：川内（普通11-4也是）的鱼雷弹幕补正较为特殊，对轻中重甲为：100%/75%/40%，这与我们通常观念中鱼雷对重甲补正高相反。（我方装备鱼雷补正为80%/100%/130%）

[zenith tundra]

wait it does actually 45% dmg to heavy?

i'll test tomorrow but that is so scuffed

[midnight heron]

saw u guys talking about naming tosa namagi

y not just call it tomato

[zenith tundra]

i would call it "No tank available"

[ripe latch]

川内 轻甲 96管血(167000血) 防空620(减伤80.5%

imagine kill her with torps

[zenith tundra]

620AA sure

makes sense

[ripe latch]

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1wi4y1t7aE?p=2

[midnight heron]

damn sandy getting a run for her money

[ripe latch]

w8 that really meme

1 torp on azuma - 35-40 ??

[prime panther]

anyone mind testing confetti in pvp?

it got reworked btw

[vague token]

fireworks?

[prime panther]

ye

[vague token]

[prime panther]

ppl ive asked said its better than before but still bad

[vague token]

what is actually different though

[prime panther]

apparently it retargets after it breaks now?

code says targets nearest so idk how much of a difference it makes

[zenith tundra]

it hits backlines for 1-2x103 dmg

sounds good now

[vague token]

so a shell goes to the back

but also rains on vg?

[zenith tundra]

normal aim

either backline or vg

[prime panther]

so not much of a difference in pvp i take it

[zenith tundra]

for backline dmg it does like 0 tbh

let's see vg

[vague token]

i need to see it im having trouble visualizing it xD

ill just slap it on warspite for fast viewing

[vague token]

eh it doesnt seem much better

if it shoots at backline

it spreads all the pellets everywhere

with most landing in front

[zenith tundra]

it's only +7 so dmg might be better at +10

dmg wise is still bad even in pve

fire dmg is also very bad. 215 dmg with this setup

is like a ca fire on a bb....

[vague token]

that's because it stacks

that one actually makes sense

[zenith tundra]

by stacking u mean u never see more then 200 dmg?

[vague token]

as in it stacks with normal bb gun fires

that's why my defense meme is kirishima with 410

[zenith tundra]

ah lol

[vague token]

two different fires

plus gascan u

for the largest fire possible

[zenith tundra]

215 fire and 0 gun dmg

[vague token]

yeah

cause then i can have kirishima barrage fire

410 fire

and gascan u with the beeg fire

cause of her efficiency

i dont have a 457 for her though

so rip

[zenith tundra]

i'm pretty sure fdg with 457 does more dps then all combined

[vague token]

probably

but it's defense

who cares

gotta have fire memes

sara is last for avi fire

xD

[zenith tundra]

do they even survive to set up fires?

[vague token]

i was going to use bremerton but then i found out she doesnt burn with her barrage

so it's either atago or belfast

=/

dunno, it's defense fleet

it's just there to troll lowbies

[zenith tundra]

[prime panther]

gotta go with chappy for burn memes

[vague token]

i do

chappy/(belfast or atago) juneau

[zenith tundra]

juneau is the most meme one in that comp tbh

[vague token]

i mean they gotta live a bit for fires to tick

xD

[coral wren]

So... ive been attempting to sand bag but im only getting 10s...even users pass me by like 100 points.

[sour oasis]

Kinda funny to see fireworks fly above barrage.

[coral wren]

Is there something im doing wrong?

[sour oasis]

Is it 100 points or 100 ranks?

[zenith tundra]

100 score or ranks?

[coral wren]

Ranks

[zenith tundra]

rank is 1 thing. score is another

[sour oasis]

100 ranks (in the top 1000) is about a score difference of 10.

Taking that into consideration, to get +11 points when winning you have to fight someone about 330+ ranks above you.

[zenith tundra]

rank is how people relate to each other based on the amount of score they have

[coral wren]

So i should wait until i get like 10 points?

[sour oasis]

Please rephrase the question?

[coral wren]

Should i wait to get 10 exercises.
Then wait 20 minutes prior to the next reset after and hope to get +1

[zenith tundra]

without knowing ur opponent score u use rank to try and determine his score. it's not easy at the beginning but u get used to it

like at rank 1.2k i wait for people to be at least rank under 400 to attack and even then it might not be guaranteed that is a +1

[coral wren]

Ah, ok. Ill burn what i have atm to get as close to 1 as possible and try to get into the thousands place.

[zenith tundra]

it's usually easier when u can check opponent score because it's top 100 and u can see it's score

[coral wren]

This is with plus 1 exercise in avrora

[zenith tundra]

for sandbagging purposes u shouldn't burn attempts at random

actually don't uses them till next reset after at least 1 opponent in ur list used their attempts

[coral wren]

Ok. Ill hope to get kicked into the thousands place.

[zenith tundra]

u don't need to be that far back

just need to not be at 0/10.

there are always people that get attempts when u are at 10/10 and they will use them before u do so u can just wait for bonuses

[coral wren]

I dont remember if i started sand bagging last attempt or if this was first full run i attempted sand bagging.

[sour oasis]

You know you just missed me as I was rushing

[coral wren]

Well that's unfortunate

[light crystal]

tfw u get 33 (14th), but not 35 (9th+)

[zenith tundra]

rushers too weak

need to do a better job at rushing

[sour oasis]

Hey, I slept through over 6 tickets. I'm lucky I even got 2nd Admiral this season

[zenith tundra]

i've slept trough 6 attempts too. let's see how it goes

[sour oasis]

[eager cedar]

im at 8 missed

[karmic forum]

Cool

I'm at over 100 missed by now.

[past egret]

Same

Missed the first week of the season

[elder crane]

Missed 6

[ionic magnet]

yes need more

[zenith tundra]

nice balanced damage

[vague token]

[prime panther]

juneau seems lacking, needs to be replaced

[shell heron]

juneau retro, heal 100% on death

[zenith tundra]

no thanks

[shell heron]

better than % chance of revive

double procc

[zenith tundra]

how about no retro at all

[ionic magnet]

dont care about skill but i want retro for new art

[zenith tundra]

she already dies too slow against certain comps

[shell heron]

yes, HMS BB comps can't kill her fast enough

I lose Amagi or WS before she dies

[ionic magnet]

BB shells nice meme

[zenith tundra]

plus bad vg. u intentionally don't kill juneau at that point

[shell heron]

I even put her as lead so she can go down faster

seen her as last standing vg more than once

[ionic magnet]

remove aux easy

[zenith tundra]

need a 2nd juneau non oathed

[light crystal]

I've been saying for ages that Kaede needs to do Juneau skin, I'd pay a pretty gem for that

[shell heron]

Oathing Juneau was a mistake

[zenith tundra]

not really but sometimes it is

[ionic magnet]

juneau art is so outdated

[zenith tundra]

if juneau gets a retro her bis setup might end up being oxy pearl lol

[light crystal]

You might need to rethink your comp if you absolutely need her Heal to get a win

[zenith tundra]

well i was testing namagi tosa and there is no tank. i need her to sink before my backline does

[empty grove]

Juneau oath skin

[zenith tundra]

against ws monarch amagi

[empty grove]

Ring is a pearl

[ionic magnet]

you're 100% not fighting a good team if you dont need jun heal

[empty grove]

Nah

Full torp meme goes fine against everything

Provided 90% of them don't miss

[zenith tundra]

that's a meme tho

[ionic magnet]

keyword is provided

[empty grove]

I ran ibuki/Noshiro/Ykkz for awhile

So did Cay

The comp is solid without Juneau

[zenith tundra]

i've used ibuki before azuma but even that was a lot of rng sometimes

no need for more tbh

[empty grove]

The season I had it going, I had to reset once

[ionic magnet]

well torp on offense

[empty grove]

Due to shit RNG & that was versing full meta shit

[zenith tundra]

the only resets i ever do are against namagi hiryuu/fdg when opponent nagato goes 3/3 barrages

[empty grove]

Also idk if I as doing something wrong, but mirror Namagi WS comps felt like RNG

Like it was reliant on who dealt more opening dmg from the barrage

Yet it ate everything else

[shell heron]

torps. I went back to Azuma because Noshiro likes to move to the bottom of the map

before firing her torps

[karmic forum]

Would you guys buy a Juneau skin if they made one

[empty grove]

Yes

[shell heron]

I would. Oathed her already so yes

[zenith tundra]

if it is cute yes

[ionic magnet]

yea its hard to look at juneau rn

[karmic forum]

I probably wouldn't unless its good

[empty grove]

Also one good thing about torp memes

Full L2D flex

[shell heron]

ah yes

[karmic forum]

You have blue oni, red oni, and a white cat

[shell heron]

[karmic forum]

I considered doing that but decided not to because I didn't like Noshiro enough to oath her or buy her skin

[zenith tundra]

i didn't get noshiro skin. brought 50 dock slots instead

[shell heron]

I bought the skin without thinking it through

[empty grove]

The lick is good enough

[shell heron]

maybe because it's the only l2d skin I like from that time

[karmic forum]

I was considering it but the animations were a bit too choppy on her kimono

[ionic magnet]

i bought it after i saw the candy lick gif

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

the only skin i brought and didn't like at all is azuma one

[shell heron]

I saw it after I bought it and regretted nothing

[karmic forum]

The way it flows in the wind seems unnatural

[empty grove]

I'll tell you a skin that I slept on for ages, bought it last hour that ended up being good

This one

[zenith tundra]

that's a cute one

[karmic forum]

I have that one as well

Its nice

[ionic magnet]

yea thats a good one

i just didnt buy cos i already have 2 skins for her

[karmic forum]

Also its a MayaG ship and Maya makes good skins

[shell heron]

I only kinda don't like one I bought. Tirpitz

[zenith tundra]

i didn't get it since it's aurora but the skin is great. regret not getting it

[shell heron]

Her anni one looks better somehow

[empty grove]

Anni one would have been nice L2D

[ionic magnet]

too bad not l2d

[empty grove]

Match the bisko one

Borderline identical

[karmic forum]

I have the exact same combo

Although I regret buying the bismarck skin

Maybe I'll regret it less when KMS finally becomes the meta

[empty grove]

Levelling KMS stuff has been hell for me

[ionic magnet]

i regret buying it cos i never used bisko after

[karmic forum]

I'm levelling KMS stuff for the t1 medal

[empty grove]

[karmic forum]

And eventually the t2 medal but I'll be waiting for more KMS ships I actually want to level

[zenith tundra]

this is my favorite skin. brought it on a whim but i love her smile

[shell heron]

There's also Cleveland L2D. It's good but I never used her since first 2 months I played

[karmic forum]

I bought monarchs anniversary skin but then realized that I liked her qipao skin more.

[vague token]

i got the hiei skin in the lucky bag

[karmic forum]

So I bought that one and never used the anniversary skin again

[vague token]

but when am i gonna use any of the kongou bongos

=/

[empty grove]

When you're like me

& have nothing else to level

[karmic forum]

I also bought laffey's kimono skin but I'm using her oath skin over it

[empty grove]

[karmic forum]

Aside from that I don't regret any of my purchases

[vague token]

i would oath kirishima if i didnt have to save one for fdg

next ring pack

[empty grove]

I don't even wanna know how much i've spent on skins

[karmic forum]

Its been a while since the last ring pack

[ionic magnet]

all i ever get from lucky bags are my most unwanted skins

[karmic forum]

Lucky bags are scams

[shell heron]

scam bags

[vague token]

eh, they're cost efficient technically compared to the other gem stuff

i think?

[karmic forum]

I sit for a week before deciding to buy any skins

[zenith tundra]

i got lucky once on one lucky bag but never again after

[empty grove]

They are if you factor in the skin

[ionic magnet]

yea after you get the 2x bonus gem packs

and assuming you actually like the skin you get

[karmic forum]

Usually theres a few that I probably would have bought out of impulse but decide they're not worth it in the end.

[vague token]

i havent gotten any skins i hate in the bag

so it's fine for me

even if i dont use them i like the hiei one

xD

[karmic forum]

Even if I like a skin, its wasted if I never use the ship.

[vague token]

kongou retros when

[shell heron]

hobby and kalk skins

[karmic forum]

Trump has a dev30 azuma right?

[shell heron]

yes, I fought it

it was annoying

[karmic forum]

K, just double checking

Anyone see Famine's fleet recently?

[ionic magnet]

oh 2 d30 azumas now eh

i never see him cos he moves 5 mins before reset

[shell heron]

isn't he using namaryuu with the same vg

[karmic forum]

He should be on the leaderboards by now

[ionic magnet]

doubt it

still early

[shell heron]

he's like 4 up from me

if I'm up there so should he

although I should have dropped with 9/10

[karmic forum]

Isn't the season almost over?

[ionic magnet]

oh i meant at this time

hes prolly at rank 200 or smth

[karmic forum]

You can catch him if you look right before a reset probably

[ionic magnet]

with 8 or 9 charges

yea

[karmic forum]

I'm just wondering if he has dev30 yet

Seems like he'd be one of the first to have double dev30

[ionic magnet]

he got d30 for a while now yes

[zenith tundra]

not fdg yet

namagi fdg unlucky is easy prey to namagi ws

kind of disappointed by that

just snipe amagi then nagato and then fdg can't solo carry like hiryuu could

[empty grove]

What was the OP comp

Uhh

Amagi/FDG/WS?

Same vanguard as all

[zenith tundra]

it does work against teams without a proper tank

even namaryuu can struggle if ws has 457

[empty grove]

So far the most effective method for me on offence is using WS against everything until I encounter another proper WS comp & then subbing in hiryuu

[ionic magnet]

how much 457 bps you even have fam

[vague token]

kek

[ionic magnet]

[empty grove]

Idk

Like 32

I haven't gotten one in like 2 weeks

[ionic magnet]

oh not bad

was expecting lower cos youre spamming cube comms

[zenith tundra]

thing is hiryuu will final counter so early with ws and fdg focus especially if u get fire going early

[empty grove]

I mean for now

EN doesn't have that level of focus

[zenith tundra]

u should have it soon tho

[empty grove]

Have you fought a comp with two 457s yet?

On JP

[zenith tundra]

i don't think so

[empty grove]

I wonder how busted that shit would be

[zenith tundra]

either that or i never noticed it

[topaz stag]

[zenith tundra]

2 457 would only work on ws fdg comps tbh

i already hate nagato 457

but i have to run it in namagi tosa

it's just too slow and u can get hit by opponent nagato barrage before even getting off mg cd

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

making it faster would only overlap more with tosa so i would need 2 hpfcr to offset both tosa and nagato

but that is a cn only thing

[empty grove]

Rip

[ionic magnet]

thanks for wasting my time testing
just noticed this fcker has no main gun LOL

[empty grove]

I wonder if we'll ever get a 2nd one

If we did tho, then CN gets a 3rd

[zenith tundra]

if they add it to something then it doesn't matter

more then 3 u don't need

for pvp

[empty grove]

Yeah i'm meaning like adding it to one of those raid/point event things

If they added it to something you could accumulate more of like PR it wouldn't matter

[zenith tundra]

idk if i would use all 3 of them tho. like tank with hpfcr doesn't sound that good

[empty grove]

Maybe on offence

But then the argument of everything being good on offence kicks in

[zenith tundra]

not namagi tosa tho

[vague token]

inb4 pr3 adds new rainbow gun

[empty grove]

I haven't even used tosa yet

Omg

[vague token]

yamato gun or something

[empty grove]

Imagine if they obsoleted the 457 with a PR3 gun

The salt on that would be amazing

[vague token]

i mean it isnt hard to imagine

[zenith tundra]

pr3 rainbow ca gun. completely useless in pvp

[empty grove]

I should really start testing stuff in PVP again tbh

I got so lazy after that hiryuu death

[zenith tundra]

i would test namagi tosa against namaryuu spam in en but tbh i don't even think it works that well tbh

[empty grove]

I'm 99% sure Blazing has a 120 tosa

[zenith tundra]

my tosa is like 118 50%

but anything that has ws is a nightmare to deal with

[empty grove]

I would have used her if I wasn't stuck on KMS stuff

& none of my KMS vanguards left could carry a weaker backline

[zenith tundra]

they haven't really released anything worth testing in pvp from formie

even noshiro imo in jp meta is not good

[hot creek]

Formi was the last ship I rushed to 120.

[empty grove]

Didn't you like

[zenith tundra]

i rushed suruga and tosa to 120

[empty grove]

Day 1 centaur to 120

[hot creek]

lol, its more like 2 and 1/2 days. But yes.

I dont think its mathematically possible to 120 in a single day

[empty grove]

I remember seeing ages ago you running langley/centaur/houshou in 9-2

[hot creek]

unless hax

[zenith tundra]

morale would be a problem

[empty grove]

Yeah

[zenith tundra]

i had to stop leveling day 1 tosa because stupid morale

[empty grove]

Atleast until oath

When I rush level, I usually go up to a higher world to offset that

Better than sitting around waiting for it

[zenith tundra]

i farm event usually which is not great

but why bother farming story maps when u can just start on event

[empty grove]

When I rush during events, I usually get the ship, assuming backline to like 80-90 & then use it in C2 until D opens

[hot creek]

9-3 is my CV/L powerleveling spot. Best bang/speed for your buck. I think if you go any higher, suicide botes become a problem. Also definitely can't bring houshou langley if you go higher.

[zenith tundra]

isn't 9-4 better?

[empty grove]

Did you go in, do like two battles & then back out?

[zenith tundra]

like map is much better and more xp for just a bit of opponent levels?

[empty grove]

-4 is always good too cause it has a higher large node spawn rate

[hot creek]

Its 2 to 5 battles. Usually 3 to 4 though. Depends on how many triple triangle nodes you have to go through.

[zenith tundra]

oh u just fight a bit guess map layout doesn't matter then

[empty grove]

9-4 might actually be better now tho tbh

[hot creek]

Since suicide boat targetting is random, sometimes you get unlucky they all just go in on your flagship and you have to retreat early. Usually its spread out though.

[empty grove]

Going off your method, since you have ammo & no ambush/airstrike

& the EXP difference to w10 aint even worth the difficulty increase

[hot creek]

yeah lol. w10 xp scaling such a joke.

[vague token]

i mean pushing chapters is pretty inefficient cause difficulty to rewards ratio

[empty grove]

I like doing BB levelling in 11-2

[zenith tundra]

for 1:1 i never go past 9-4. w11 already is too much for 1:1 and w10 not worth

[empty grove]

Solo levelling I mean

But I manual when doing that

It's easy enough too if you avoid large main nodes

[zenith tundra]

manual is out of the question for me tbh. i played manual only for like 5 months at the start and now i don't want to go back there

[hot creek]

Large nodes phat xp . If you spot the "recon" version of them, they're safe to battle too.

[empty grove]

11-2 main is a meme

It's like what, 4 BB?

3 at mid spawn & then 1 at the end

Also there's no way these SP3 nodes are level 68-76

[zenith tundra]

jp levels are 81-83

maybe they just scaled down hp a bit

[empty grove]

I'm getting borderline killed using a 113/118 comp

[zenith tundra]

lol

[karmic forum]

with an extinguisher?

[empty grove]

Lol no

I'm on manual so I just cancel the BB shots

[karmic forum]

I'm using lv 90 tosa and 110 pamiat and I'm having zero problems

[zenith tundra]

i'm using fe sg on amagi and it's easy

[empty grove]

It's probably what i'm using tbh

[eager cedar]

perhaps your gear isnt up to par

[zenith tundra]

lol

[empty grove]

That seems my issue tbh

[karmic forum]

Light armor no extinguisher seems like a poor choice

[empty grove]

Well yeah

But it's lowcost

& the exp is shit here

[karmic forum]

Oh wait Hiyou is medium

[empty grove]

Fuck wasting more oil

[eager cedar]

now 120

[karmic forum]

Idc I just want to affection farm some ships

[empty grove]

Idek what I wanna level anymore

[eager cedar]

thats what i generally do for shitty events like this, affection farm

[hot creek]

cancelling enemy bb shots on manual is very satisfying

[eager cedar]

lvl everything, get that 24 lvl120 medal for every faction

[empty grove]

I'm 2 off that

Soon ™️

[eager cedar]

be faster

[empty grove]

No

KMS is aids

[eager cedar]

kms

ssg

[empty grove]

You have like

10 decent options

Some subs

& then some mediocre shit that needs to be carried

[zenith tundra]

that's 1 reason i don't want to level up too many ships to 120. i'll be stuck using bad ships instead

[empty grove]

& in turn being carried, loses MVP

[eager cedar]

i dont like kms personally

not a huge fan of the maid ships

[empty grove]

I don't either

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

I like IJN & USS

[eager cedar]

nice

[karmic forum]

The HMS medal looks more gold for some reason

[hot creek]

They look bronze to me. Why is bronze higher than silver

[karmic forum]

Thats not silver its iron

[vague token]

those look bronze

[empty grove]

Yeah

[karmic forum]

And those are bronze, its the maximum tier for those medals

[eager cedar]

bronze is higher because reasons

[vague token]

oh ok

[empty grove]

Iron > Bronze > Silver > Gold > Platinum

[eager cedar]

are you en?

[karmic forum]

4 of those + the platinum roses vow is the best medal flex you can manage rn

[hot creek]

Rainbow

[coral wren]

whats the mainstream aux equips for namawarkai?

[empty grove]

Yeah

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

I thought you knew my IGN

[eager cedar]

thats extra pog

i did

i forget people if they main or use alts for en

[zenith tundra]

@coral wren check tier list for equip in pins

[empty grove]

If I had to play this game twice i'd quit

[zenith tundra]

if u want clarification u can ask here

[coral wren]

i checked but theres no clear choice, alot are just "pick what u need"

[eager cedar]

but yea, thats super pogs, i rarely meet en users with the 24 lvl120 medals

[empty grove]

I know someone else who is pretty close to all bronze too

[karmic forum]

I know a few people with 3 bronze and iron KMS

[empty grove]

Who are they?

I've only seen me & one other

[zenith tundra]

amagi: twin 381 seattle gun/nepgun staag sg + rudder or vh armor(tanking)/white or hpfcr(dmg)
nagato twin 381 seattle gun/nepgun staag sg + beaver
warspite triple 410 seattle gun/nepgun staag sg + hpfcr/white

u can use twin 406 on nagato too if u want to the difference isn't big tho

[coral wren]

i see

mk thx

[empty grove]

Is the twin 406 difference even needed with a HPFCR

[karmic forum]

I'd rather not give their names here

[empty grove]

DM me

I am pretty curious

[eager cedar]

i know one other guy who has 2 bronze and 2 iron

probably has 3rd by now

[zenith tundra]

wdym twin 406 with hpfcr? u wouldn't use hpfcr on nagato anyway with amagi and ws in same team

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

rip EN their single hpfcr

[empty grove]

Nvm

I confused myself again

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

I need to sleep longer

I was thinking equal offset & then remembered there is no equal offset

[zenith tundra]

i enjoy sleeping without bothering with al stuff tbh. it just gets to a point where is just too much tbh

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

AL isn't really my issue

[eager cedar]

lose sleep for a game that doesnt reward you

[empty grove]

it's other games having events at the same time

[zenith tundra]

well are those game worth ur sleep then?

[empty grove]

Sometimes

[karmic forum]

Sleep is good, staying up to 3 am for PvP is not.

[empty grove]

I just keep staying up too late & hate breaking a schedule

[ionic magnet]

just hit 2.6k while keeping your sleep easy

[empty grove]

Easy enough if RNG favours you

[zenith tundra]

sleeping schedule too fucked so whatever 3am or 9pm, u just need to sleep enough

[empty grove]

I found when I had a schedule all over the place I felt like absolute shit

[zenith tundra]

i worked in shifts and that really didn't help with my bad sleeping schedule at all

like changing times every week and the u end up never being able to sleep 2 weeks in a row at the same time

[empty grove]

[karmic forum]

I remember when they made the resets one hour earlier

That helped somewhat

[zenith tundra]

when i was playing en only i always ended up going to sleep at 10 am when i could

switching to jp was ok since i can go to sleep at 10pm but now on 2 severs it got stupid again

[empty grove]

I play on two FGO accounts

Fuck doing that on AL too

Pure burn out

[shell heron]

I played 2 accounts on AL before.

Events were awful

[zenith tundra]

i don't even think al is that bad to play on 2 servers tbh. it's not that intensive of a game. just that times don't match at all

[empty grove]

For me it's more gear/level difference

[shell heron]

but can't wait for time to move back an hour. 1AM reset is nice

better than 2AM

[empty grove]

You apply speed & DMG from the main to the alt

It going slower & you being weaker, so applying more effort just burns you out

From my experience with multi accounts in things anyway

[zenith tundra]

i'm not that try hard tbh. last event farmed like 55k in jp and 40k en

[light crystal]

Yo, why ppl putting Enties instead of Hiryuu for Amagi/Nagato? Find it curious

Sorta noticed an uptick recently of it.

[karmic forum]

The AL experience isn't engaging enough for me to make another account.

[zenith tundra]

u should ask people that use enty why they use her

[empty grove]

AL is only engaging for me because I enjoy levelling stuff

[zenith tundra]

she isn't even used in any good team tbh

[empty grove]

PVP at this point is just a pattern

[ionic magnet]

alt accounts are always only fun for a month or so for me

[light crystal]

Well, out of the 10 or so I've fought today, only one got sorta close lol

[ionic magnet]

then you realize youre just repeating everything and you can play other games instead

[light crystal]

Sometimes, they get their LE to proc when my WS is trying to snipe them off

[empty grove]

NGL tho

[eager cedar]

just play pad

[zenith tundra]

if they didn't release so many broken ships that meta is like same 6-7 ships on defense it would be more interesting tbh

[empty grove]

I've been on a burnout stage on AL since Jintsuu

[hot creek]

Enty can be a problem if you get unlucky with timing. Although I think most people who use namagE are just too lazy to lvl Hiryuu and Enty is good enough for them.

[eager cedar]

w12 made it kinda fun again for me

then after getting choukai day1 i got bored again

[light crystal]

Ehhh? I doubt that's it it

[empty grove]

I enjoyed doing w13

[eager cedar]

[light crystal]

Methinks they genuinely think she's somehow deadlier

[empty grove]

Minus the fact I had to use full 120 ships

Well 2:2

[zenith tundra]

i was definitely not looking forward to 110-120 grind when en got 120 cap. so lucky i could switch to jp then

[eager cedar]

i wish they already raise the hq lvl cap for en

wasting xp is no fun

[empty grove]

I've been 120 for over a year

[ionic magnet]

Yo, why ppl putting Enties instead of Hiryuu for Amagi/Nagato? Find it curious
this is just like asking why everyone is not running namaryuu
aka no point

[empty grove]

You know how it shows 0/0 exp?

[eager cedar]

yea

[empty grove]

I'll show you an old screenshot in a sec

[light crystal]

How are you 120. I'm 114, and I've been playing every day since October 2018 kek

[zenith tundra]

u don't farm enough

[empty grove]

Because I play too much

[light crystal]

59.4k Attacks too

[empty grove]

217k attacks

[light crystal]

That would explain it

[eager cedar]

well attacks dont really mean that much tbh

[light crystal]

🤔

[shell heron]

this is better, having the nagato faction buff back makes matches an average of 40s again

[eager cedar]

ive seen 120 with only 50k attacks

[empty grove]

Yeah

[eager cedar]

and 110+ with 80k

[karmic forum]

Those damn 3:3 players

[empty grove]

They're whales

[eager cedar]

will you pass agito

[zenith tundra]

i went from 96 to 113 in 1 year. like no real grind either

[eager cedar]

with his fuckn 300k attacks

[empty grove]

You can easily level shit if you dump money on oil & 3:3 12-4 while doing the 1200 comm

[karmic forum]

Some people like farming 7-2 with 1:1 for example

[ionic magnet]

[karmic forum]

Thats not going to get you a lot of hq exp

[empty grove]

I think agito runs 3-4

[ionic magnet]

casuals

[empty grove]

Idek how he gets so many attacks

[karmic forum]

Does anyone have Famine or Agito in their friends list?

[eager cedar]

Yes

[karmic forum]

How many attacks do each of them have?

[light crystal]

I'm at 7977 Exercises. Been doing it since early on as well. Fun times wrecking house with my lv 80 Ranger on Washington cuz I didn't have an Enty at the time kek

[zenith tundra]

famine is here XD

[empty grove]

[eager cedar]

Lol

[karmic forum]

The fuck

[ionic magnet]

lmao

[empty grove]

That's why I said I was curious

[eager cedar]

he was talking about you the entire time

as the other guy

[shell heron]

[light crystal]

Yo, I want the have 200 bitches at 100+ Aff Medal.. I think it's the hardest one to get

[zenith tundra]

[light crystal]

81/200 on that one

[shell heron]

even 100 is not fun. Making me use ships I don't normally use

[zenith tundra]

speaking of farmers

[light crystal]

[eager cedar]

at a nice casual 110

or 111

oh 113

[shell heron]

yep. Famine runs Namaryuu with Azuma/Juneau/Yuki

where's trump. think he runs the same

[eager cedar]

he does, i saw him like 2 days ago

[zenith tundra]

is kamita actually ahead?

[ionic magnet]

yea lol

[light crystal]

That Trump guy is in Avrora right?

[eager cedar]

yes

the only guy i can think of with 100% attack

[light crystal]

Yeah, vaguely remember seeing ppl mention him in ALEC last year lol

[shell heron]

same fleet, just bottom hiryuu instead of top

[karmic forum]

Trump probably wishes that USS was relevant in PvP

[shell heron]

His USS fleet was a good meme

[karmic forum]

He ran WASD for a bit longer than most people to my knowledge

[eager cedar]

his WALL fleet

[light crystal]

He used to run WASD/Ent very early on

People would actually hate fighting him back in the day as well, it was hilarious :v

[empty grove]

Yeah he ran it during 110

[karmic forum]

It was still relevant in the Akaga meta

[empty grove]

It was pretty busted at 110

[karmic forum]

Eventually he had to switch to namaryuu

[empty grove]

I remember people spoke about it a lot cause it stood out

[ionic magnet]

would be fun if nagato didnt come too fast tbh

yes amakaga has 50% winrate vs wasda

[zenith tundra]

namaryuu was already mopping the floor with wasd tho even at 110

[karmic forum]

He probably purposed it to beat Akaga specifically

[empty grove]

Or when nagato came, she was obsoleted by amagi in fox comps

EN had such a weird meta

[ionic magnet]

imagine everyone doing coinflip matches

[karmic forum]

I remember testing nakaga and amakaga and, amakaga ended up being much better against namaryuu.

[eager cedar]

can we go back to entry and foxes meta

or hood with foxes

[karmic forum]

I wish we could, PvP was a lot better back then

[empty grove]

Those enty duels

When people had WASD+E

[zenith tundra]

no thanks

[empty grove]

& Eld

My god

PTSD

[zenith tundra]

everything but enty meta is fine

[eager cedar]

by the time i got my eld lvl, she wasnt meta so i never touched her again

[karmic forum]

Specifically the Akaga meta was fast and I could reliably sandbag to 5 mins prior to reset.

[eager cedar]

well you can still reliably sandbag to 5 mins prior to reset, just go all out torps and hope they land

[ionic magnet]

eh just use the usual meta comps and you can do just that

[empty grove]

If you get paired against other people running proper meta, 5 mins wont cut it

[karmic forum]

I wouldn't wait until 5 mins with 9/10 in this meta, even 8/10 could conceivably go wrong.

[zenith tundra]

pretty sure namagi ws doesn't really struggle killing stuff

[empty grove]

For me it did

Against other namagi WS

[ionic magnet]

yes exactly same with back then

[empty grove]

Maybe I got unlucky

[zenith tundra]

well mirror without a tank is fun indeed

[karmic forum]

Sometimes matches can just go a long time if both ykkz decides they want to live for example.

[eager cedar]

or you face a rare eld user and that shit procs every time

[zenith tundra]

the lack of a tank is why i don't like using namagi ws at all

[empty grove]

@shell heron

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

i mean numbers wise eld will proc unless you sink her before 20

[karmic forum]

I'd imagine eld will just get blown up by Azuma now.

[empty grove]

Well

Azuma has a tendency to miss all shots

[ionic magnet]

^

[vague token]

still better than normal CA

[empty grove]

& she has backline targeting

[eager cedar]

still better than sanrui normal CA

[ionic magnet]

idk why ppl thinks eld is some squishy bish that always dies in 20 secs

[shell heron]

[karmic forum]

She used to be like that in Akaga meta.

[shell heron]

I know one other eld player

[vague token]

eldridge died before 20 at 110

[empty grove]

Yeah

Akaga deletes her

[vague token]

assuming you had any HE guns

dont even need foxes

[empty grove]

I know Ivan Noir uses her

[ionic magnet]

yea i should put up my eld too

[karmic forum]

I never used Eld but I'll admit that shes probably a lot better now than before.

[shell heron]

yes him.

[zenith tundra]

how many people used to run speed in amakag era...

[empty grove]

I'm in a server with him

[vague token]

a lot

[ionic magnet]

how many ppl runs aurora now

yea zero

[vague token]

that's why i ran amagi/hiryuu/flex bb

[empty grove]

I remember mentioning his comp stalling someone into another season

[karmic forum]

I ran BTD and Fireflies over helldivers in Akaga meta.

[shell heron]

yes. I wonder who that was

[eager cedar]

[empty grove]

Dunno

Someone

[zenith tundra]

the lack of aurora makes speed much more viable

[shell heron]

it was funny, for a short while

[karmic forum]

I sometimes put aurora in my defense

[shell heron]

there was an increase of eldridge being used in pvp

[karmic forum]

But thats just my MayaG meme fleet.

[shell heron]

for def at least

[empty grove]

I remember running a massive meme during the enty duel meta

Bel/Juneau/Eld

It worked like 10% of the time

[vague token]

lul

[empty grove]

But if it hit, it'd stall someone out for ages

[vague token]

i ran minne/aurora/eld before amagi i think

[karmic forum]

Nothing like a solo Eld slowly killing your enty.

[vague token]

nuke light armors down with minne's aux gun

[zenith tundra]

why stall out when helena would just force resets

[empty grove]

I don't even remember what I ran on offence back then

[zenith tundra]

the comp was juneau helena eldridge back then

[vague token]

helena was so common people just tossed her in with foxes

xD

[empty grove]

I remember the cleve/helena comps

With the nuke dmg if both procced

[ionic magnet]

i honestly believed helena is your best choice for pvp back then

[vague token]

that's why i liked aurora

triple light was obscenely squishy

[karmic forum]

People used Fortune back then iirc

[vague token]

just shoot em before cvs

[eager cedar]

oh i just realized i was busy here i forgot to attack

[karmic forum]

Don't know who ended up replacing her

[zenith tundra]

it didn't work with eldridge tho

[empty grove]

I remember fortune/javelin in HMS comps

[zenith tundra]

or poorly anyway

[karmic forum]

But I remember I was raising Fortune for PvP before some ship came out and I immediately abandoned her.

[empty grove]

The old HMS comp

[vague token]

fortune was just used pre-ykkz

[karmic forum]

I think it was Aurora.

[empty grove]

QE/Hood/WS

[karmic forum]

Or was it jintsuu

[vague token]

when we got jintsuu stuff transitioned to suicide

belfast/jintsuu/x

i think?

[ionic magnet]

yea jintsuu aurora juneau was pretty meta then

[vague token]

or aurora yeah

[empty grove]

The EN meta changed so damn much during that year

[zenith tundra]

jintsuu and aurora were added at the same time and 3-4 weeks later amagi

[empty grove]

I remember like 50% of it

[karmic forum]

Aurora came before Jintsuu so it was probably her.

[zenith tundra]

by like a week max i think maybe

[keen sparrow]

i read from top n saw azuma dev 30 wat

[vague token]

lul

[empty grove]

Two people on EN now

[keen sparrow]

now nagato fix

[ionic magnet]

yea now its scary

[karmic forum]

Aurora was released after Nep event, Jintsuu one week later

[ionic magnet]

[keen sparrow]

i hate fight azuma vg btw

[zenith tundra]

december 13th aurora 21th jintsuu

[keen sparrow]

that faking burn

[karmic forum]

And the Akaga fleet sorta built itself by then

[empty grove]

So zack

Would you armour Azuma or Hiryuu in current EN state

[eager cedar]

im just waiting till everyone has 457

[ionic magnet]

you mean armor gyro or armor rudder on azuma?

[zenith tundra]

always hiryuu. idk i might just be biased towards armor hiryuu but azuma suffers in some cases with it

[keen sparrow]

everyone have 457 slap to warkai n watching

[karmic forum]

I remember some guy on CN had 3 457s