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u mean against hiryuu?
yes so her barrage hits her directly
ohhh
okie
if that's the case still no shells?
ill just check the tierlist for equips
it's usually just too risky to go full dmg in pvp since u can just rng miss and then u have no defense so ur ships die too easily
hpfcr is more offensive choice over sg but both are used for hit
isn't it called High Performance Fire Control Radar?
no idea why tierlist says it's hSfcr
high standard
EN calls it HSFCR
I preferred komakan name tho
i just call it hfcr 
2x sg ye
^
i would use white shells or fcr
Well
cuz i don't have fcr
only pr bb use 2 sg
what do i use for ws
not like youre losing anything w/o hfcr
u lose hit with white over hpfcr
Ye
White + rudder
rudder sg hfcr white shell
ok google how found hooloo on pvp 
any combination works
If u dont have HPFCR
sg/rudder sg/white hpfcr/rudder
as long as you dont do dumb things like black+white shell youre fine
Wakai already has much gusto into her hit stat
Yeah
LMAO

i have been trolled this whole time
black shell is never used in pvp unless u don't care about pvp
i was megatrolled
And survivability
+3 bonus reset, very good. looks like 1050+ already 
only 1 food this reset for me


i got 3 somehow xD
i got 3 +1s
hm , fdg
457 > 381x3 > 283/406 > 381
so uhh... sg + white or sg + rudder for ws?
pvp u only ever use 457 or triple 381 on fdg
I might recover. 360 5/10
still behind tho 
@zenith tundra but nyagato used 381x2
replace or not
i like putting my ws vs enemy ws so im using rudder+sg 
Well just wait for Wakai sword event rerun
how many pts do u guys even have?
363
how...
rng
I'm behind kiro 
the reset before i had no bonus
it's ok you have plenty of time for me to sleep on a fight
i was getting good bonuses but only at 289
never. we just start sandbagging immediately

the true rng is zack having that 150+ start
@ripe latch nagato uses twin 381 or twin 406 based on teammates. if no one else shoots around the 16-17s or someone already shoots at 15s mark use twin 406
twin 406 
twin 406?
406skc
Nope
yep
Its 457
o_O
fdg gun
far better than my 136 start 
i swear to god 457s r easier than 406 sometimes
not for me...
Still at 17/50 atm
NOPE!
368 with 144 start 
u recovered already 14 pts in 2 resets cay
Nearly a week
i only started spamming pr2 gear a month ago and im at 13/50
but only 29 skc prints
while my azumagun is just shooting up
comparing to where I was before, being only 7 behind is not that bad
what amagi server drop me...
wth
FOK U
๐


how many 457 do u have now hooloo?
rip50 oil
welllll
I'm gonna bet 30
33
gottem

imagine i get on a luck streak and overtake u guys
30/25 2nd azuma gun rip
Anyway kiro yer on avrora/flex?
kind my fault too cos im spamming cube comms a lot more now
Shark rerun got announced anyway
oh wait. I got 35/25 on twin 406
Spee I meant
when did that happen
so uhh... is spee a map drop or gonna get a rateup?
banner build or sp3 clear x amount of times
i think i have 3 total
so spee is sp3 drop??? nani???
nope
is spee a map drop tho?
Anyway kiro, yer on wut server?
u don't get to get spee from her event without the event itself
avrora
war archives only give access to maps
not the event themselves
spee cannot drop from sp3
oh shes not getting added to perma pool?
so u cannot get her from just the map
idk if she gets added or not but u have to build to get her
the map doesn't give spee

no map drops
but it says on wiki u clear sp3 60 times and get her 
rip new players
but SP3 is only lvl 60
i must believe
i don't have spee i would've got her from map if it was possible
not the worse map to farm. garbage exp but quad mag torps there
isnt spee the one blowing herself up so you sometimes get A rank?
that is part of the event not the map
ok ye then i meant part of the event
i just wanna get her without building
cuz idk if she's gonna get rateup
kinda annoying to farm
u can only build her after map is retired
no!!!
yes she blows up like a bitch
ehh varia says spee is prob gonna be a drop
imagine doing 8 months of daily heavy builds and never get 1 spee
yes become our 
roon with pearl , nani
No u

im in avrora 
i started on launch too but didn't play al for like 1 week after creating the account
Started around the end of 1st VDiR
1st vdir... was looking so forward to yuki but we didn't get her
that vg tho
Dehm when I got my foxes at 3-4 months to even get completed smhw
And by that time already on Namagi koz wifey keks
Half of the comp
ehh varia says spee is prob gonna be a drop
@sterile bluff When the event gets archived she should be in heavy pool, timer 1:55:00 if the wiki is correct, and she's not a map drop. Can't farm her. She never was a drop either
Spend more cubes!

or forget about spee... not like she is important
is there something in wc worth farming or is it just for swiftsure?
Is this worth an attempt? I'd figure it's a +1 or maybe a +2?
i need WC for sirius swimsuit 
610mm torps
eugen gun
pompom
406 mk1
seafang
380mm/twin105
so nothing valuable in terms of drops
just swifty I guess
yea thats atleast +1 i think
tho id wait for another 5mins first
maybe hes just getting stalled
I usually wait 5-10 minutes when I notice movement
Yeah, they ended up moving more and gave me I think +9
How do you get +9?
ya don't 
Idk. I remember I got +24 and it looks like the base point you can gain atm is +15 on the pins

Does anyone have that gif of warspite oneshotting someone
ws doesn't oneshot any 120 ship
ws cant even oneshot a naked no-equip 120s ship, isnt she
who tf is got banned there 
Scroll up you'll find the convo

admitting consideration of hacks. Ban without appeal is a little too heavy of a punishment for that


considering i have 0 of the meta backline event ships (i started playing few days before northern overture), is this a good pvp setup to aim for?
centaur-hood-hyuuga kai
jintsuu-ayanami-yukikaze
Aim for meta fleet anyways, Nagato and Amagi are due for a rerun soon anyways
Also use Juneau, shes the best PvP ship
i want to play pvp before the rerun too, there is no non-event option that i can see besides the queen elizabeth fleet
Might want to swap out Hyuuga for another option. Her AC skill is wasted on Centaur
besides, im not aiming for #1 obviously, i just want to get to one rank above captain. im looking for a non-event composition that can do that.
Might want to swap out Hyuuga for another option. Her AC skill is wasted on Centaur
@jaunty junco the only other decent BB i have is Rossiya. not an option i assume. otherwise, Enty
you can always do
Washington, South Dakota + Enterprise/Hiryuu/Centaur main
hiryuu is better as pvp flag than hood?
Yeah, having 2 flagship-dependent BB is no bueno. All the options 15ice listed are fine
hiryuu is better as pvp flag than hood?
@tranquil hedge I think he meant Washy/SoDak plus either one of those three
dont put hiryuu on flag, she is for tanking purpose
put SoDa on flag if you're going to use WaSD
i am asking so that i can plan on what to level
my current composition is between 99-109 and is centaur-hood-enty, belfast-ayanami-yukikaze
prioritise to get&raise yukikaze and juneau, and for backline washington-south dakota and enty/centaur
Get both Centaur and Enty leveled up
u can use hood for a while i guess
Are you working on Monarch for your pr project?
saint louis
Get ayanami lvled up since her retrofit is really good
she is 105 and retrofitted and has the rainbow torp
i think it's already retroed
Nice
i mean the auxiliary
"my ships are in between level 99-109"
oxygen torp
the other thing i am worried about is that i have no high tier homing torps, only the purple ones. or two gold quint 533mm normals. which is preferable?
you can use the gold ones i guess
okay, thanks
You can farm for the quad homings when Graf event comes to archives too
and juneau should replace whom? i have belfast-ayanami-yukikaze in the lineup
ayanami
really did not want to use juneau. seems cheap and boring, but such is the meta i guess
Juneau as tank, yukikaze in the middle, and belfast off-tank
will do
or use jintsuu instead of juneau x3
i know juneau will be the best option, but is jintsuu-ayanami-yukikaze a good setup?
wow we just said the same thing
yeah ๐ i dont have jintsuu yet but i want to farm her asap
so with jintsuu, can i have ayanami, and bench belfast instead?
that, i haven't tested yet so imma just let someone else answer that ๐
they should be good because of torps synergy, right?
it should be fine

not worth waking up in the middle of the noght 450
both my seasons are ๐ฎ not worth the effort
was it worth it
Amagi?
i don't think there are any commander level 115s in amagi server yet
let alone level 60
Eh, hard to tell with ๐ณ
I'm actually curious to see when the 1st level 100 commander appears
it'll be a while
hey hey i lost a match not paying attention
when im shikikan level like 100 ill have op ships too
I know how that feels 

see cay i knew you'd be fine, 447 lul
we'll see how long this recovery streak will last 
I wonder is the new torp plane worth using over ryuusei
the flood avenger?
it's like a sidegrade to both
it's a better option than cuda it seems
300 crash is higher than ryuusei, but it's parallel torps, but you get flood
but the flood only works on bb/bc
also 2 seconds slower
than cuda
i like it, using it on formi atm
ap dive bomber makes up the speed
xD
and the crash
since it's a cuda
+18
can you find them on the ladder
we're working on a database to find what is the threshold for +1 at lower ranks
i got a 19 just now 
If anyone does catch a top 100 person, @ me your score, their score, and how much you gained
because it sure ain't 35 for +1 down here

we would even take no bonuses
Btw, i was rank 1 for a moment on avrora server.
don't mock the guy. Sandbaggers need food to properly sandbag





yes, gather my numbers 
i got 24 point n after that till now my list is dead every 2hrs checking list 

bad conection 
Well i didnt know about sandbagging until like yesterday
So my score will be low in comparison to sandbaggers for this run.
still possible to get a better rank than rushing if you don't just rush
the sandbagging part is just for extra bonuses
I still like 'drag' โ over 'sandbag' ๐ - but rushing should only be done if... Well, you're in a rush. Never let your tickets expire though.
Nice to see I'm not the only one with a slow start (though I realize Sky could be bagging and still have 1 or 2 tickets left)
early season means 30 seconds allocated per battle
so minimum to move is 2.5 mins before reset 

must be nice when every other comp is not a namagi one
sandy is 90% shitters
You are going to be AOTN if you rush during the last 3 days of the season anyway
feels great to know fleets arent namagis and you can just look away and not lose to the absolute worst rng ever
inb4 still lose bcs the torpmemes 
can someone check tl. for me some icons don't appear but the link is correct....
which tl
the images load for me, yeah probably client-side
oh my god helldivers saved me
^
planes should return back to cv instead of crash damage and refund cd based on their hp
while fighters keep dog fighting

except Japanese planes. with increased crash damage 
but how about we give BBs nuclear ICBMs that can hit across the earth and laser AA systems that can 1 hit any object in the air?
cv being inferior to bb is stupid
@zenith tundra I want BBs to be superior

70/50
if pr3 doesn't come in half year i might get another one
wut about on en
highest I heard was 33. I'm at 20 myself
dang
9k are unequipped fleets
29/50
I see one every 1-2 weeks average
10/50 
when I actually do good projects. those cheap 412s or 1hr gear is just for refreshing
i barely even to gear these days
23, i got a bp a couple days ago
one day i refreshed 10 times before getting a good one
my entire routine is G-412 or Q-3 until i get a face project
rng sucks
i never get the face i want... 
these fking izumos man
and roons
clogging up research everytime
smh
funny thing is, i have like 6 on amagi already
6 what?
457s

oh wait..
u meant bps
LOL
i thought u were trolling
but how tf...
6bps in under a week
613 5/10 ๐ฎ season
my jp season that started at 141 is doing much better. what a way to throw a 156 start
say hi when u see my hood + akaga 
im actually super lucky on amagi
no kidding...
come back and flex dev 30 fdg azuma
i rolled minne and nocal, 6 457 bps already, and akaga dropped in 3 days
.........................
hakaga is such an old comp. won't last till 1st ijn event rerun
come back and flex dev 30 fdg azuma
maybe i will in 5 months the way this is going
i was wrong tho
i thought next rerun was for sure gonna be ce
it's the highway star whatever thing
apparently
๐คฃ
is that new
no rerun
for EN
look in game-news
it says rerun in game-news so
the entire event is legit about getting a skin...
that's a skin mini event
im so done with en
I still think CE is the next rerun, minor events don't count.
good
cuz apparently ppl in general r saying ce won't happen for a while cuz it's not even announced yet on jp/cn
and i tried telling them that en doesn't follow jp/cn schedule
but
yea
no shit why would we have it rerun if cn/jp haven't had it
cuz we don't follow their schedule
EN will get CE rerun at the same time as CN/JP
oh r u sure?
Its new content and we try to sync those up as much as possible across all servers
I'm not even talking about us following their schedule
but ce rerun isn't new content tho
How many reruns have gotten released after EN server was out?
well en schedule will be very nice since it still have old events that already rerun in jp/cn. i'm curious what cn/jp will get instead
but when en gets ce rerun, jp/cn will for sure get it as well?
My b I guess EN doesn't get reruns at the same time as jp/cn
doesn't make sense for us to get it first, but I guess?
isss and iris already rerun in jp
I doubt en will get any major content first.
all ik is that for the new content they try to sync it across all servers but en is behind af
EN isn't that behind anymore
Essex event when? D:
Which is why I'm more optimistic that we'll start to get rerun content at the same time as CN/JP
Essex raids when? D:
we'll booli the shit out of essex for our rewards
some event won't rerun in jp since they slready rerun but en only had og run

they can just do what they did with polaris and put back to back events while the other servers rest
but by chronological order ce should be the next major rerun right? 
Then people would complain extra hard because they're losing Amagi of all ships
then i sure hope the same doesn't happen to ce
wait i mean
if we get an amagi rateup then i don't care
LOL
ce didn't have some artist go and fuck up shit at the very least (afaik) so it should be fine
Wasn't the reason FW never ran in JP because the WV artist hated AL?
wait wut
dunno why it's taking over a year for CE rerun tho
@karmic forum yeah
drew colorado, west virginia and maryland
then caused some shitstorm
96 votes and 15 comments so far on Reddit
that has more info on the fw artist situation I think
There has been new events coming out and we've been matching JP/CN.
I wonder what new ship can possibly come with CE rerun
apparently there's a sub
idc about new events tho
cuz all the good ships r in the reruns 
inb4 new event comes out with 3 t0 ships
still waiting for a new orleans sister that can be as good as minne but maybe more pvp friendly
and hopefully choco ;)

inb4 new event comes out with 3 t0 ships
@fallow wren that's what i told myself for the past like 5 events or so
Is there a comprehensive page where I can see what gold bp were dropped in event maps? Want to know if there could possibly be a war archived event with roomba drop
roomba drops on normal campaign
Oops, not on gameplay help. Yeah I know. I just want a siren-infested map potentially grind them on if the event gets archived
this was a nice reset. only 1 bonus match 
what are you at now? 
at least try or just use your attacks
i do 
This should be enough for a +1 right?

Ooo, it was. That's some good data
Speaking of data, should these two be pinned so players can continue to add.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r0himICsu0p_DcEPQYoMqv6V7bbtyZzhyX38SHpQZ3g/edit#gid=141685279
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qcsL0u7Kl1TfF9J2vjwgXy7msNuY-CpLLAaMfKKjPds/edit?usp=sharing
Sheet1
Your Score,Opponent Score,Points Gained,Current Rank,Bonus Points,Player Entry,Private,0,50,25,--,25
398,508,22,Lieutenant Junior Grade,5,ZackFairX,Petty Officer,100,60,30,200,22
357,435,21,Lieutenant Junior Grade,4,Shimarin,Ensign,200,70,35,600,20
511,587,18,Lieutenan...
I made some changes to the PvP bonus sheet. The only data needed is your score, opponent's score, and how much points gained.
The if function should take care of the rest
There is a google form out currently. If you would like to do that instead of messing with the sheet directly. I would prefer it
@shell heron So both docs require your opponent to be top 100 so you can see their score if you are to make an entry?
Pretty much... The only exception would be if you are friends/in a guild with your opponent and can ask them directly what their rank score is.
how good will putting a dev18 azuma with 310, torp bulge, and washing machine in my pvp fleet be? is it worth it or there are better setup? my fleet rn is jintsu and ykkz, with amagi enty and warespite as backline
imo its a good counter against light armor and torp vanguards but idk if there are better ships to put
replace bulge with armor or gyro
dev18 sure is useable but dont expect her to be any better than other meta botes
especially with no nagato to boost her
she's going to be more consistent than Jint at least, but you might be needing that torp RNG to beat some teams so 
I don't think Azuma here will beat Jint-with-good-RNG
can't go wrong with that 

this season scores look pretty terrible it seems. 693
wtf how am I at 700 then 
when I'm too busy doing other shit, how am I getting better luck with bonuses 
well, 2nd week will equalize probably
it's not bad enough that I can't hit 2590+ still
but pretty bad to get low bonuses this early
Does losing battle make u have lower rank
losing battle means you get 0 points for that charge
POGGERS i missed like 4 attempts and im at 10/10 533

losing battles makes it harder if not impossible to reach higher ranks later on
๐ง
just surrender before you lose
I only miss matches like that when I fall asleep too early 
i woke up mid-sleep because i forgot i had 1 more attack to do
If you keep on forgetting to do matches just set timers
annd i forgot enterprise's luckyE can delete my entire main fleet
@tropic dagger No, but losing might prevent you from getting past certain ranks. You still get XP which is nice.
does KGV wants her gun or something better?
annd i forgot enterprise's luckyE can delete my entire main fleet
@proper sorrel welcome to a day in the life of me
oh wait
u said main fleet
she deletes my vg but not my main i think...
is server lagging again?
i can login just fine
I mean manju jump all the time
i can do stuff just fine in avrora

no real issues on my end
I can play fine just random jump sometime
outside of the usual disconnects, but my router is trash

No problems here
I've been having Avrora problems all week. Other servers are smoother, so it's not always my connection. But issues aren't terrible... Just extra 5 minute delays.
don't underestimate casuals 
I just blew mine before the update (cost me a few points). It should be simple and no problems but I don't want to risk it going overtime.
juneau and hiryuu 
oh that's worth. found my 3rd bonus match
i only got 2
not that I noticed
round 2 of 24hr+ maint fellas 
score check? 
giving it another 30s
10/10 
774... still 20 behind good seasons
769
814..
I'm ahead of average seasons 
hope servers don't die after maint
that's more important
hacker 
healthy sleep here I come
in jp i'm betting maint is less then 4 hrs because if it is longer i miss 4 attempts
I forgot to do audi

your girls will be uneducated 
healthy sleep here I come
@crude mortarno
i do auditorium for 2-3 days then run out of xp and then forget about it for then next month
if i was smart, I would have refreshed for a better project than blue gascogne
I got a 5 hour KGV one
wait. I used my refresh this morning because it was all garbage
basic research purple here
That's why I waited till day refresh

12h research 
Server is usually up for like 10 seconds after reset
I did a G-531-MI. Rainbow gun incoming 
like actual garbage. 3 PR1 cube, and 2 low chapter research
wasn't even worth the time
oh I had a choice of a G-531-MI
but the last one I did only gave me a trashcan AA gun bp and one seattle bp
you misplayed 
isuzu retro nani

where did u heard that?
seems like it's in cn wiki
and wtf is that retro skin
doesn't look like isuzu at all
irn?
XD
the color palette is completely different and the horns seem to have shrunk
the ribbon is close at least
duno why cn has irn for ijn ships...
if u look at that without isuzu being displayed u would think is a new ship
the only thing that is similar is the ribbon
doesn't look at all like base skin
time to start leveling her up now
hopefully she becomes a better surface dps ship with retro
grow up too fast
IJN being IRN
Censoring things tbh
IRN basically
Imperial Riben Navy, Riben = Nippon in Chinese pronunciation
Either that, or Imperial Rising Sun Navy
i mean if she got mgm+1 she still has the whole anti air mode problem
Just wait and see
Of all these surprises
Hopefully ||my pfp bae's wedding kimono tho||
doesn't matter. not like monty is crippled too much by aa mode
welp usless event rerun 
it's a skin event it's useless by default

unless they give isuzu like 180 base fp and mgm+1 she isnt going to be doing dps
XD
and a barrage

how is the support related to surface dps
isuzu has only negative, monty can counteract her negative with a positive so it cancels out
in fact she net positives i think
105% cl gun , playable after retro 
again how is support related to surface dps
hopefully she becomes a better surface dps ship with retro
@zenith tundra
again how is support related to surface dps
@zenith tundra
montpelier buffs herself
thus her "support" is also a personal dps boost
and she actually ends up net positive fp boost under buff, 25 vs 20
xD
although she'd be better than the dido class at dps with mgm+1 probably
even with aa mode

her aa mode can be perma active in heavy plane hell
free food with 3k hp 
true, but 170 base fp still puts her higher than isuzu xD
and her buff is a 4.8s positive fp buff on average every 20s
i mean if she got mgm+1 she still has the whole anti air mode problem
@vague token
why does that matter
yeah, because if they only give her mgm+1 she still has 120 base fp + aa mode
we're talking sub kitakaze dps output
xD
she isn't getting mgm
100%
not every retro is mgm
mg efficiency and fp most likely
closer to dido class i guess?
i would guess closer to jintsuu/sendai
never used isuzu didn't even know she has dd gun
xD
AA gun mount +1
yeah
if we had a blue dido class i imagine they'd also have similar stats
with a bigger focus on offense
compared to the rest
with dd gun she is 200% likely to never get mgm
hms cl after all
then again the dido class are basically not even the same class
all of the atlanta class actually have the same barrage pattern
xD
i dunno why they made san juan so consistent with the atlanta class
dido seems fine to me the way she is tbh. doesn't need mgm
while the dido class is all over in stats
although they all consistently have FP steroid skills at least
i mean dido is fine because they tossed on even more fp steroids than sirius xD
sirius really needed it though
not even counting bp
who gets the worst barrage
despite all of them being dido class

wat isuzu grow up 
ijn retro again, when useless queen gt retro 
queen retro + dido = 
Wait til WC
WC rerun
2nd rerun
Else she's gona be a WC
If u know what I meant
Being a toilet garbo

im tired see useless queen when salvo = miss 
buff slave for warkai only 
120+ for boss maybe
How many hours was jp downtime?
3:51
Thanks
fk me lul once dat releases i cant lvl low lvl ships in hm anymore
1.8k torp requirement for 11-4 with a light armor boss...
time to use 
Also wtf
Btw catto is her handle in ALIC discord
full hp clear lmao
Like siriusly
has healer
i was expecting her torps to blow shit up
Well she said Ark kinda there for freeloading the shit only so
i meant sendai's torps blowing vg up so cant full hp clear
Well
She used me + alba on Uni
Topkeks
Spammin em shet
Also already 9894 smhw hic
Not Sanrui? Or a bit fearing that evasion of CA + her 50s on FS5?
i don't care about saint louis so no
plus hard to hit evasion and torp with both azuma and saint louis
testing azuma dps
i don't think azuma will ever die to that. she didn't die in w13 lethal
gonna be interesting to see if seattle does more dps then azuma

hm china wall 

112 hyuuga out dps georgia azuma and seattle all lvl 118+
azuma at like 10-15% hp after boss and everyone else 90%+
bah
11-2 essex more damage then georgia on medium lol
how do I sandbag? I feel like I am doing it wrong? I wait for the people in my list to do first but sometimes I wait for a few hours and their rank stay the same. In that scenario, should I attack the leftmost and wait for the next list of people to move? I dont know when I should be refreshing my list
refreshing is hard to use effectively especially early season. there are good chances that after refresh all ur opponents already used their attempts, the more time passes the higher the chance. i use them usually to avoid people that are very low level like 70-
yes the problem was that I am in a spot where I am getting ranked with lvl80-100+ people but their rank was not changing even in the last 10mins before reset






, but at least rushing still gets 




for cubes








