pvp

[sterile bluff]

jk

[coral wren]

Oh wait I was wrong

This is what I have

[sterile bluff]

or u can have the weird general prints that works for any gold ship

ok yea

that's what i thought

[ripe latch]

grind pr prints but not ships

[sterile bluff]

u can grind for pr prints? wtf

[zenith tundra]

events

[sterile bluff]

oh... i thought u meant normal campaign

even in events they r limited 😢

[jagged steppe]

I got 10 special left

suddenly bremetron drop after I limitebreak max

[coral wren]

I've bought out the event shops of BPs for every event I've been through so far

Oof, extra Brem

[hot creek]

I wait til last day to buy in case I daiily build her

[jagged steppe]

can I trade brem for 8k point

thefuck

[ripe latch]

better buy prints

[hot creek]

I need at least one more ssr from build to get border. haven't missed a border yet but ill be kind of sad if I do this time lol.

[coral wren]

Imagine buying gear boxes with event points

JK ofc

[ripe latch]

but ironblood box not usless , u can get quadro torps

[zenith tundra]

@sterile bluff u just started playing so u are enthusiastic for new ships. after u'll play enough u'll understand that even having maxed dr is pretty meaningless. even if they are relevant for pvp wasting money to just come faster to that conclusion is a waste. why do u think people like phoenix want to quit or already quit like stella? eventually the game just feels dead even with new ships every event since u are playing the same exact thing over and over again. i wasted more money that i should've in al bur that doesn't make it any more interesting then it actually is.

[sterile bluff]

...

jesus dude

i told u i barely whale lmao

[zenith tundra]

there is the weekly next week for a purin

if u whale don't whale the least useful thing in the game at least

[sterile bluff]

cubes?

[zenith tundra]

research

[sterile bluff]

lol

ok then

i get where u r coming from

but

im saying that at the rate im progressing it seems impossible for me to ever catch up

to the current progression of the game

like in the future pr5 might come out and im still chugging along at pr3

and im missing a lot of events

that's prolly never gonna rerun

jk idk

[ripe latch]

before lvl update we can get easy 100lvl ships and test on pvp , after we do now get 110-115lvl ship minimum for test

[zenith tundra]

i don't think u are meant to catch up in research. it's a time consuming mechanic that is meant to keep people playing not worth whailing for

[sterile bluff]

ok i don't whale for research lmao

i just spent some gems on cubes

but if u put it that way ill stop

ill just stick to my Ds

[jagged steppe]

PR is for people with no life

azur lane player had no life

PR is for azur lane player

[sterile bluff]

exactly

[ripe latch]

if u farm 1-2 hour per day - 2-4 weeks and get any pr

[jagged steppe]

I farm georgia 1 week!!!

actually 6 day

allday

[sterile bluff]

but how long does it take to get 343 bp...

[jagged steppe]

life is very good

[sterile bluff]

without Hs

[zenith tundra]

i farmed all pr1 on cd in en. totally usless flex

i took my time with pr2 in jp since u don't gain anything for flexing

[jagged steppe]

imagine flexing over waifu game

[sterile bluff]

i don't wanna rush to flex

i wanna rush so i can finish my shit and finally move on to DRs

and i wanna rush DRs cuz pr3 is just around the corner

once i catch up ill take it slow

[zenith tundra]

u should only do dr and use every other resource for pr1

[sterile bluff]

wdym

use every other resource for pr1?

what does that mean

[elder crane]

General prints, for example

[zenith tundra]

just do pr2 research. use all universal bps on pr1 and eventually retire extra pr2 non dr bps to get more prints for pr1

[sterile bluff]

...

that...

is not possible...

it'll take me like 2 yrs to get a single pr1 ship to dev30 then...

if i only do pr2 research

[zenith tundra]

u won't finish dr in time if u don't focus them

[elder crane]

You end up with hundreds of extra PR2 PR prints after you max the DRs anyways

[sterile bluff]

but i need my pr1 ships

i need to finish so much stuff

fkin hell

noobie struggles

ok i don't even get it, retire pr2 non dr bps

[elder crane]

dw once the shop releases, it'll be fast (?)
well, once you finish one set of PRs that is

[sterile bluff]

what does that even mean

how tf do u retire bps?

[elder crane]

there's going to be a shop added soonish

[sterile bluff]

and what shop?

[zenith tundra]

again u don't nees pr1 ships to do any content in the game

[jagged steppe]

what shop

[elder crane]

which can exchange excess PR/DR prints for general prints

[sterile bluff]

oh...

but lemme guess, the ratio is like 99999999 to 1?

[elder crane]

....at a 6:1, yep

[sterile bluff]

knew it

[jagged steppe]

what 6:1

[zenith tundra]

this shop

[elder crane]

each PR excess gives 5

each DR excess gives, erm
I forget, how many again?

[zenith tundra]

20

[jagged steppe]

it gonna be faster to farm pr?

what is DR?

[elder crane]

DR is the rainbow ones

[jagged steppe]

oh ok

[elder crane]

PR is the gold ones

the DR prints in PR2 are about half as common as the PR ones, each

[sterile bluff]

ok i get that i don't need all of pr1 to do content

but i kinda need 1 of them to do 13-4

relatively easily

[elder crane]

so by the time you collect 512 needed, you have like 800-900 of each PR, minimum

but you only need 343 of them

rest go into 🚮

[jagged steppe]

oh

[zenith tundra]

the only pr1 ship i used to auto w13 is nep

[elder crane]

and then you can buy DR and PR1 generals

[sterile bluff]

hold on...

once u collect 512 DR u get 800-900 of each PR?

wow that's a lot

[elder crane]

yep

minimum

[sterile bluff]

i mean it sounds about right tho

considering how rare DR is

[zenith tundra]

u only need 508 max if u want a possible fate 5 for all of them. the rest 300-400 are just for retiring

[sterile bluff]

508 DR prints?

[zenith tundra]

pr

[sterile bluff]

oh

[zenith tundra]

/devbp

[strange moat]

https://i.imgur.com/qvAsnYB.png

[elder crane]

343 for each PR, but if/when they get fate sim, you need 165 more for that

[sterile bluff]

F

ok i see then

so i need to get my ass onto pr2 asap

[elder crane]

and then the rest is just 🚮
and exchange for DR and PR generals, the latter to feed to PR1

[zenith tundra]

use all universals for pr1 ships is less of a waste if u only do pr2

[elder crane]

well, the good PR1s

[sterile bluff]

okok i see what u guys mean now

cuz pr2 prints can become pr1

but not the other way around

so it's better to do pr2

[elder crane]

Well, it's that the end limiting factor is the two DR ships

so if you don't focuse PR2, those take literally forever

and in the time it takes to max them, you incidentally max everything else anyways

[sterile bluff]

how long will it take to dev30 a DR if u focus on them?

and do some light H spamming

[elder crane]

4 months if you really go crazy

[sterile bluff]

oh that's not so bad

[elder crane]

light spam is probably 6 months?

[ripe latch]

pr1

pr2

[sterile bluff]

don't dis my pr1 like that bro...

[zenith tundra]

i spend 9 months while only using cubes for max 2 months

[sterile bluff]

shit...

[zenith tundra]

7 months of coin only

[elder crane]

tbh the more annoying one is the 457

[sterile bluff]

ok i mean if u do coin only then it's gonna be pretty slow...

[zenith tundra]

that is slow as fuck

[sterile bluff]

lol ye 457 is the slowest out of all

i only have 10

...

[elder crane]

and it's super annoying cause there's few overlapping projects for prints and equips

[zenith tundra]

if u use cubes a bit it's much faster

[ripe latch]

but gold research with gold its really roulette

[sterile bluff]

ye... ill use cubes a bit

[elder crane]

I got really cucked for like 2 months on 457, so I'm super behind

[zenith tundra]

at least use them on pr2

[sterile bluff]

it's ok dude at least u r ahead of me

i went like 2 weeks without a single 457

[elder crane]

I almost have 75 of each PR2 gold equipment

[sterile bluff]

and i was hardcore spamming gear

[elder crane]

I went a whole fucking 5 weeks

[sterile bluff]

75bps or 75 copies...

[elder crane]

I think I just hit 25/50?

[sterile bluff]

pogger

[elder crane]

75 prints of each PR2 gold

[sterile bluff]

ok u scared me

[elder crane]

I should be at 30/50 or so right now

[zenith tundra]

[sterile bluff]

my max is only like 30prints

and it's azumagun...

most useless one cuz u only need 1 azumagun XD

[elder crane]

roughly half of your average PR2 gold = # of 457 prints on average

[sterile bluff]

i'd say it's more like 1/3

or even less

actually yea a lot less

no way it's half

[elder crane]

there's stupid lucccsaccs with like,
31/50 I saw two days ago?

[sterile bluff]

there's no fucking way

there was a guy in trophy room saying he got his 36th or something

[elder crane]

average PR gold
So if you have 30 prints each it's 15 average or so

[sterile bluff]

if u had 30 prints each wouldn't the average be 30... ?

[elder crane]

15 for 457

[sterile bluff]

ye ik what u meant

but that seems wayyyyy to many

[elder crane]

I've asked around, and that's what most ppl have

[sterile bluff]

457s r like 1/10 as common as normal gold bps

[elder crane]

it also matches with data collection, which actually suggests slightly higher than that, but I blame small sample size

1/20 actually

but there's 11 pieces of PR gold equipment in PR2

[sterile bluff]

im talking about a specific one

for every 457 i can get like 10bps for a specific gold gear

[elder crane]

idk
I asked 5 random people, it's about 2:1

[sterile bluff]

........................................................

[elder crane]

and data collection shows its around that too

[sterile bluff]

what can i say my luck is shit

[elder crane]

I thought you said you have 30 of the Azuma gun as your maximum?

[sterile bluff]

maximum, not average tho

[elder crane]

and are, what was it, 11/50

[sterile bluff]

10

but like

when i started spamming pr2

[elder crane]

so your average is around 25 of each PR2 gold equip?

[sterile bluff]

i somehow already had like 4

[elder crane]

so half of that would be 12.5

and 10 is close

[sterile bluff]

...

lemme calculate

[jagged steppe]

i have a question
when both vanguard die reload become half

does the duration also running faster or the same?

buff duration

[elder crane]

Man, that luck on seattle gun
Also my luck on 457... I've built everything but the Azuma gun (still 24/25 on that) and somehow only 5/50 still on 457

• me, on the 4th of Februrary

[jagged steppe]

if both vanguard die does it mean from enterprise 22s reload airstrike time to 11 and then she become 8s invul 11s cd

[elder crane]

yes, it does

Hiryuu is still 15 s too

[zenith tundra]

148 ijn bofors
177 azuma gun
198 seattle gun (i did buy some bps tho)
175 trashcan aa
65 457
it's a bit less for me then 1/2

[sterile bluff]

ok my average pr2 is 25 yea

half that 12.5

close to 10

u r right

but i swear to god for 1 457 i can get 10 bps for another specific pr gear

[jagged steppe]

can I trade 5 of my pr2 for 457 plz?

[elder crane]

that's weird, Zack is defs getting a very diff number

[zenith tundra]

take like ~15 off from seattle gun

[elder crane]

It's interesting, cause I bugged some random peeps in EN a month back, and of the few that actually bothered to count for me, they matched the 2:1 ratio

[zenith tundra]

might have to do with coins spam and no equip spam for me

like i never did equip focused ones forever

[sterile bluff]

for me i did pure gear spam

for the last 6 ish 457s?

and it's about 0.8 per week on average

[elder crane]

83 ACAD
68 seattlegun
60 Azuma gun
72 Haze
71 IJN bofors
70 DrH
and 24 of the 457
which roughly matches Zack's proportions

tbf as I said, I got to >25 on all but the Azumagun before getting 6th 457 print

[zenith tundra]

it's why is better to use longer periods of time when rng tends to even out more

[hot creek]

lol, im the one at 31/50 , guy in trophy room was at 38/50

[sterile bluff]

...

that's illegal

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/FuzNS/74f86ed098.png here my other prints

[upper sparrow]

[sterile bluff]

you can't do that sir

that's against the law

wtf is zoomer...

azuma gun i assume...

[upper sparrow]

man im not touching AL in 5 day now, should quit this game

[sterile bluff]

yes

jk

the longest time i have left AL is like 5 hrs

[jagged steppe]

if you quit the game nobody feed your waifu your waifu will die

[sterile bluff]

i am a fkin tryhard

[upper sparrow]

whats day you need when u leave AL to get akashi quest?

i mean the returning mission i guess

or smthing like that

[zenith tundra]

i forgot about fdg gun and hazemayer lol
149 fdg
189 hazemayer

[hot creek]

wish I could count how many of those dumb pr1 stuff I got from pr2 drops. I bet it would be alot

but alas those numbers are mixed in with actual drop from pr1

🚮

[sterile bluff]

these

izumo

bps

won't

fkin

stop

coming

...

[jagged steppe]

izumo

[zenith tundra]

izumo for sure has best fate 5 tbh

[sterile bluff]

but like...

i don't want her bps

[zenith tundra]

don't do pr1 easy solution

[sterile bluff]

fine

ill start pr2 as soon as i finish monarch

that's it...

no other pr1 ship...

but ibuki tho...

and roon...

[hot creek]

uh yeah. I wouldn't be doing pr1 to "catch up" if I were in your shoes lol. discounting my nep bias of course.

[sterile bluff]

foc... what should i do then?

jump straight to pr2?

[jagged steppe]

why are you doing pr1 anyway

[sterile bluff]

cuz i need pr1 ships... ?

[jagged steppe]

which

[sterile bluff]

izumo

jk

a lot of pr1 ships r t0 and meta, i want them for pve

[hot creek]

Honestly just go for whoever you like. PR2 ship aren't that much of a gamechanger in general anyways. PR1 is actually probably better overall lol.

[sterile bluff]

ehhh

[hot creek]

but if you're actually doing things to "catch up" then it would be best to do what zack and blue said earlier i think

[sterile bluff]

ok then

catching up it is

[hot creek]

but if you really like the pr1 ships theres really no reason to actually focus on pr2

[sterile bluff]

nah it's fine

only ship i rly want is monarch that's it

cuz i actually need her for 13-4 lmao

after i finish her ill jump to pr2

[zenith tundra]

fdg and azuma are more relevant to pvp then pr1 are to pve. i did w13 without monarch and even nep can be changed to someone else

[sterile bluff]

but... monarch is bae

[ripe latch]

@sterile bluff just get hms fleet for top100-1000 , after u can get any ships for pvp/pve

[sterile bluff]

to get hms fleet i need dev30 monarch

[ripe latch]

dev15-20 enough

only get 381 one

[sterile bluff]

nuuuuuu

i must go all the way 😠

dev30

need that last mgm

[shell heron]

I wonder which has more value.

fate5 Monarch and Ibuki

or one dev30 PR2 ship

wait not even dev30. almost dev30

[ripe latch]

farm monarch - get main hms fleet lvl , farm nep - get vanguard

[sterile bluff]

then dev monarch

i can forget about nep cuz she flat

then move on to pr2

profit

genius

[ripe latch]

for top100-1000 rank she pretty good

[sterile bluff]

D:

[shell heron]

when nep finally gets a skin. she wasn't even the star of her own skin

[ripe latch]

wow my comment on node not delete

[hot creek]

how is this at all flat.

[sterile bluff]

...

it's flat because

well

you see

[ripe latch]

flatptune

[sterile bluff]

ok cuz like

the ocean right?

it's flat

neptune is the ocean

therefore she is flat

LMAO

[eager cedar]

why do people put non dev20+ fdg/azuma on their defense fleet

[hot creek]

for some people, the fact they have them unlocked is enough of an acheivement.

[eager cedar]

[ionic magnet]

you dont question defense fleets in the first place

[shell heron]

My old nightmare appears

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

[eager cedar]

if youre gonna flex, at least flex a 120 loli meme or something

[shell heron]

a full minute because eld survived long enough

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

or BD skins, thats a better flex than full oath or l2d skins

and yes. I saw Eldridge proc twice

lucky Enterprise didn't proc at all or I might have been in trouble

[elfin summit]

or BD skins, thats a better flex than full oath or l2d skins
this way?

[shell heron]

Missing Javelin

[elfin summit]

well, smol poverty tier flex I guess

[keen sparrow]

fw in archives, no more HPFCR

[elfin summit]

won't they add it to some core shop?

[vague token]

oops forgot more matches

[empty grove]

CN is getting the VF-17 added to Core shop

Nothing about HPFCR

[elfin summit]

le riot then

[keen sparrow]

maybe next month

[empty grove]

How many times did CN have FW run

2 or 3

[elfin summit]

FW D3 0.0000000000000001% bp drop

[keen sparrow]

oops i forget the event

[elfin summit]

I want to forget this non-stop-3-events-back-to-back grind soon

Yostar have a mercy pls

[ripe latch]

25k event points still no have reno

[elfin summit]

I rather wonder when we get next lvl cap

I mean, we must save that 3M extra exp for some reason

[ripe latch]

130lvl

[elfin summit]

125 at least

[ripe latch]

bruh

125lvl enty

[hot creek]

my Nep and Monarch would be ready

pve goddesses

[eager cedar]

just increase xp cap

[keen sparrow]

w15 next lvl cap

lv 125 fdg 30k hp

[eager cedar]

skip w14 and go straight to w15

[ripe latch]

on w15

[empty grove]

I honestly wonder what they can they even add in for more difficulty

Maybe some more gimmicky shit like the AA boats

[ripe latch]

CA with main dd gun

[empty grove]

If ships die on boss they lose EXP

[elder crane]

Submarines is the obvious next step

[vague token]

pve mechanics merged closer to pvp

or vice versa

preferably pvp more like pve

[sour oasis]

PvP die on Avrora?

[marsh bane]

w14 siren mode

[sour oasis]

Crap. PvP entire game just dead for me. I can't fight without getting game lock. #tech-support for me.

[keen sparrow]

add more full screen barrage with 100torp launch n 100 plane in boss fight

[eager cedar]

just gonna be more sub gimmick with them nuking your main fleet

[sterile bluff]

waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

r we getting a fw rateup?

o_O

[midnight heron]

unlikely

didnt hear of dat happening when other regions got war archives

[sterile bluff]

i mean...

if u look in gph

in the pins it says CN is getting a rateup

[marsh bane]

and so is jp

in heavy for 1 week before they all return in their own pools

and since EN basically gets all that jp gets, we should too

[jovial sedge]

Oh wow im.perfectly fine just had a draw in pvp but still it registered as a loss...

[eager cedar]

is draw even a thing tho

[sour oasis]

If your ships all die, you lose. It overrides "if their ships all die, you win". Else: keep fighting.

[sterile bluff]

omfg

if we get the rate up

ill be tempted to mass pull

and waste my cubes

for ships that's not even good 🤣

[eager cedar]

[marsh bane]

I want Caro

best waifu

[jovial sedge]

Well no both ships last 2 mine and theirs died at same time

Believe it or not but thats how it happened sadly this phone is not so great and i didny even expect it to happen but it did so i didnt take screen

[marsh bane]

when it still registered as a loss yours probably still died 0.1 miliseconds earluer than theirs

earlier*

[jovial sedge]

RIP

Might be from my view they literally both sunk same animation in same time

[hot creek]

ties are losses

[jovial sedge]

Ah so thats that

Could have reseted it but was kinda also curious cos yeah it seemed to be so close

But this cancer pvp all i fight is some sort of variation of zoo yuki,amagi,nugato

[empty grove]

Is this game running like shit again

[shell heron]

not that bad, I blame most of my connection problems on my wifi tho

[empty grove]

I was on a load screen for like 30 seconds

[shell heron]

yea I relaunch when that happens

[empty grove]

That was on relaunch

Log in screen

[shell heron]

oh

[empty grove]

Did it on my phone too

[vague token]

[empty grove]

& everything is running fine

[marsh bane]

had no probs here

[empty grove]

[plain carbon]

Cocok please put your Nagato in the middle in PvP

REEE

[hot creek]

no ssrs. except brementon lustys and entys

looks like im finally going to miss out on a border

[zenith tundra]

seems about right when u only do research

[hot creek]

well I still have 200 cubes left in the mail

not using them though. Aint going broke for ships Im never gonna use anyways.

[zenith tundra]

will those just rot in the mail after u finish pr2?

[hot creek]

no I need them for research lol

will slowly withdraw them as needed

[zenith tundra]

it seems like a lot unless u have 0 right now

[hot creek]

200 is about right for the amount I need to sustain my current research rate until the end of may.

[empty grove]

I should add up how much i've spent on cubes

[hot creek]

I get an estimated 9 or 10 cubes a day counting all quests dailies, monthlies, comms etc.

so that and my current stockpile left should sustain me.

unless they release a new pvp viable ship, then i might be in trouble.

well, pvp viable ship and HMS faction ship

cause I only really bother with HMS now

[empty grove]

You got the bronze HMS medal yet?

[zenith tundra]

next events should be ce/wc/essex

nothing new

[empty grove]

I'd love to know how they'd shove in the essex event

[zenith tundra]

unless they decide to force more new events

[empty grove]

With the current pacing

& wc they can just shove into archives like FW since it was a rerun

[hot creek]

nop. im at 14/24

[empty grove]

This is pain

[hot creek]

reruns usually come with like one new ship tho right

[zenith tundra]

wc was rerun and it's the only hms event

[hot creek]

oh. didn't remember if it was already reran or not

[zenith tundra]

u have sirius... she is the rerun ship

[hot creek]

oh right. she was put in by mistake though on the first wc

did wc actually rerun already? lol

[zenith tundra]

wc gonna be like fw

added to perma straight

[marsh bane]

most likely ^ since we also already got the planes in core shop

why bother to make a rerun if we can get equips elsewhere

[midnight heron]

fkin oath bonus in pvp causing resets again

[jagged steppe]

where is firecontrolradar

[marsh bane]

in the void

[empty grove]

Swiftsure is in there too

[zenith tundra]

swiftsure was added with wc ships so it's not yet in en

[marsh bane]

Swiftsure should come with the same MT as WC archives does
Was like that on JP

[empty grove]

I know

We had that convo before

I forgot sirius was added to LC as well

[marsh bane]

[empty grove]

On the topic of shitty LC rates being even more polluted than JP since we have avrora in there too

[marsh bane]

[jagged steppe]

4ever in our heart

[empty grove]

VF-17 is in Core Shop

HPFCR is banished

[marsh bane]

Not yet on EN tho, should come together with Wasp/WV I guess

[empty grove]

Well, one can hope

[jagged steppe]

how aobut just add all of them on core shop

even 1.5k is fine to me

[marsh bane]

inb4 HPFCR is part of PR3

[empty grove]

I can see it

Or it'll be 1500 like a torp

[marsh bane]

1500 is fine for good equips imo

[empty grove]

Yeah

Not like I need anymore Oxy

[karmic forum]

It will probably just follow the 800 core data rule for gold eqs

[marsh bane]

[zenith tundra]

i can see hpfcr never be added to anything like rainbow quint

[marsh bane]

sad noises

[empty grove]

Rip people who missed FW

Gonna get hard flexed

[marsh bane]

I started right in the middle Only got Minnie/Wasp/VF17 out of it, kinda depressing

Oh well

[empty grove]

I wouldn't have minded a rerun, event had that lotto thing with a shit ton of mats

[marsh bane]

The exchange gacha was great true
Not much to buy out either

40.5k points is literally >nothing

for 2 weeks

[empty grove]

Considering the standard is like ~120k now it's funny to look back on

[zenith tundra]

exchange gacha was better then shops

[marsh bane]

true nowadays we have 128k shops the 5 ship dupes idea was also a great addition, its very nice

[empty grove]

I don't even remember what the shop had

[marsh bane]

food & books

[empty grove]

The shop did?

I thought the lotto thing did

Didn't FW have both

[marsh bane]

oh thought you meant the gacha

[zenith tundra]

trash stuff like now days but without cats and pr bps

[marsh bane]

not that I know of I think , was only gacha exchange iirc

[zenith tundra]

yes

[marsh bane]

with 4 phases?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[marsh bane]

oh yeah the last was the bulin one

[zenith tundra]

u would pull out of the pool till u get the 2 key items to move to next phase

[empty grove]

Ohh

I remember the exchange now

We had an assload of shit removed or swapped out

[zenith tundra]

yep

[empty grove]

No cats, cog chips or PR BP

[marsh bane]

was only 73 runs of D3 to clear it out too (13k) since you could get like 27k+ from daily A/B and hard mode etc

not for en ye

[empty grove]

I remember running wash/phnx for the first time during that event

[karmic forum]

Oh that event didn't have an sp map did it

[marsh bane]

nop

[zenith tundra]

still better then vdir

with ambushes

[karmic forum]

KMS event at least had the decency to make D4 drop 300pts

[marsh bane]

that was the only reason why I even bothered going for 100k on the DC rerun because it was so easy to reach it

[empty grove]

I just 100k out of habit at this point

[marsh bane]

I like the boxes, feels bad I opened my first 4 boxes or so, only got 19 rn
but yeah 100k isnt as expensive to go for anyways, or takes a long time , 14d is more than enough

[jagged steppe]

add veryveryhard mode and coredatashop2

[plain carbon]

Does shigures Heal work if shes in the same fleet as Yukikaze?

its written kinda weird

[zenith tundra]

If not sortied with Yukikaze, while being alive in fleet: decreases damage taken by other ships in the same fleet by 1% (5%); once per battle, when Health of any allied ship drops below 20%: heals said ship for 4% (10%) of their max Health.

nope

[plain carbon]

the problem is this ";"

because that means its a different sentence normally

very confusing

[zenith tundra]

it's 1 long sentence the 2 with or without yukikaze are spearated by a "."

[plain carbon]

sad, it would have been a great setup

[elder crane]

yeah, ";" is also used for listing when the items in the list have "," already

[ripe latch]

3 hms fleets on def

[elder crane]

itadaki~

[ripe latch]

nova nagatu...

[past egret]

So looking at all the new update info

HCFR still no where to be found being added eh?

Did I miss it?

[marsh bane]

Nope, it's not getting added anywhere (as of now)

[safe meteor]

i got jebaited

"Permanently available
Amagi"

but above that it says "New Server"

[marsh bane]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632377339266727949/697478320929112074/Screen_Shot_2020-04-09_at_2.09.36_am.png

Literally

[safe meteor]

why they even use "permanently available"
that seems like intentional jebaiting?

[sterile bluff]

lmao ye i got jebaited too

[sterile bluff]

if amagi gets added to perm im screwed for real

without rateup i'll be like trying to pull for centaur

aka impossible

[sour oasis]

How many hours does it take to no-life 50k event points.

[sterile bluff]

idk

i only have 30k

but i didn't grind much tbh

i bet there's that one hardcore gaymer with 200k

[sour oasis]

Me too, me too. But I want stuff in supply shop

There are at least 3 on my server that have nearly 200k

[sterile bluff]

poggers

[sour oasis]

Heccdiver is over 200k now.

[eager cedar]

i mathed it out and sit perfectly at 50k rn

[sour oasis]

Kdk is 10k away. Famine is 30k from 200.

[eager cedar]

[sour oasis]

Oil efficiency aside, how many hours does is take to play that much.

[marsh bane]

Hi I heard my name

[sour oasis]

[marsh bane]

I dunno, I had work in one of the 2 weeks too

didn't check

Probably too much, 0/10 would not recommend

[sour oasis]

My phone would likely burn up if I tried.

[marsh bane]

Nox

[eager cedar]

you dont use nox

speaking of nox, is it being shitty for anyone else rn

[marsh bane]

Works fine for me tbh

[eager cedar]

w/e, ill just use phone and fix it later

[marsh bane]

Also I have a feeling that kdk is gonna get to 200k too by tomorrow morning
I guess it's good that I saved that compensation mail so far

[sterile bluff]

what aux is best for hiryuu?

i don't have enough gold catas and no avigas

and not enough rudder

jesus im poor af

[shell heron]

jet fuel better than fuel tanks now anyways

[sterile bluff]

k

wait

jet fuel

[shell heron]

the 100/150 Aviation fuel from core shop

[marsh bane]

avigas

[sterile bluff]

i don't have it

[marsh bane]

buy one

[shell heron]

don't have 500 cores?

2nd best option is aviation tanks then

being behind 2 matches more kinda sucks.

wonder if I should push just a little more

[marsh bane]

Oh yeah
@empty grove ggwp thanks for being the reason I went way too far in the first place not worth it, you can have your #1 slot back next time I'll save some oil and only go 100k for the boxes

[empty grove]

[marsh bane]

[karmic forum]

Does hiryuu want cuda or ryuusei on defense?

[shell heron]

I feel it's more preferance.

I like ryuusei because of backline focus

[eager cedar]

i use ryuusei cause im too lazy to switch it out

[sterile bluff]

shit i was afk

uhh @marsh bane i cant...

dont have enough core...

[marsh bane]

F

[eager cedar]

Bruh moment

[sterile bluff]

sooo double avi tank?

[sour oasis]

Wait. Why aviation tank in PvP? Full catapults.

[sterile bluff]

i don't have enough gold ones...

it's either avi tank or purple catas

fml

[shell heron]

you want plane HP for crash damage

[marsh bane]

p sure avi tank has same stats as purple cata
so i'd go avigas or tank

[sterile bluff]

sooo... double avi tank?

[shell heron]

and plane HP helps them survive AA fire

they don't stack

[sterile bluff]

@eager cedar the real bruh moment is using hiryuu's default skin after retro

[sour oasis]

Plane HP by %. Crash damage is going to be a small factor compared to bombs.

[eager cedar]

i prefer it more tbh

[sterile bluff]

so what should i do? avi tank

plus

[sour oasis]

I like normal Hiryu speech

[sterile bluff]

ok nvm doesn't even matter

LOL

[eager cedar]

I use this cause reasons

[shell heron]

chipping at main fleet HP helps

[eager cedar]

oh reset

LOL

[sour oasis]

Stop Hiryu flexing on defense kplzthx

[eager cedar]

nope

this is too all the people who used max lvl defense while my highest lvl ship was 80

[sterile bluff]

im a genius

ill use toolbox on hiryuu

GG

🧠

[marsh bane]

beaver badge

[eager cedar]

do you guys use beaver or rudder on Hiryu

oh pin saids beaver is bis

ill try it out i guess

[sterile bluff]

fkin hell i don't have beaver either

wait

would homing beacon work?

🤔

[midnight heron]

just use w/e u got

no eva = stack avi

[sterile bluff]

btw how good is hiryuu's retro skill

nvm ill just calculate the dmg

[midnight heron]

its rng on top of rng tho so idk how u gonna calculate dat

[sterile bluff]

how is it rng on top of rng

[midnight heron]

her decks r random, and then the torps dont necessarily hit ur target

[sterile bluff]

oh

that's what u mean

[ripe latch]

[midnight heron]

list not moving again zzz

fkin pos

wanna rush? oh sry we'll giv u ded list to waste ur time

[sterile bluff]

why do u put hiryuu in the middle for def?

[midnight heron]

cuz its not meant to stall actual tryhards

if u notice the patterns of the UR ship placement

[sterile bluff]

which UR ship

[midnight heron]

azoomer

[sterile bluff]

oh like all of them?

whats so special about their placement?

besides the fact that they r not in the middle

[midnight heron]

i just placed them equally apart from each other

[sterile bluff]

oh...

wait wut

[upbeat hollow]

quick question

do you guys see enemy warkais genuinely 1 shotting your 120 BBs?

[midnight heron]

its not possible even if u giv her max fp gear

[upbeat hollow]

ok thats exactly what i thought

would rainbow gun change that tho?

i know no one on EN has one yet (or at least im guessing no one here does still)

[midnight heron]

the only thing rainbow gun changes is her fp if u just concerned with her snipe

so no

[upbeat hollow]

mk

tyvm

[shell heron]

I don't even see my own deleting a target that fast

takes at least one shelling and 2 snipes

[sour oasis]

this is too all the people who used max lvl defense while my highest lvl ship was 80
Continues the bullying cycle

[shell heron]

Oath your meta fleet for extra bulli

[sour oasis]

I thought love doesn't pass onto PvP?

[shell heron]

We love new players. That's why we teach them by throwing them right into the fire

[sour oasis]

You knew what I meant. Oath only gives bonuses in PvE. (I rather teach by memes. I'm joining the geniuses using an all-Sandy defense fleet.)

[shell heron]

Can I get a confirmation on that part

Oath only gives bonuses in PvE.
@sour oasis

[sterile bluff]

wait wtf

affinity doesn't apply to pvp?

[elder crane]

Oath does

[sterile bluff]

i don't think so

[elder crane]

so RIP

[sterile bluff]

oh

but like

if it's just normal 100 affection

it still works right?

cuz according to my calcs it should apply

[shell heron]

I would think it does. That's something new I haven't heard before

[elder crane]

Basically, if you want to test winrates and such, max oath or bust

[sterile bluff]

cuz like... i oath for stats so

[sour oasis]

From the wiki "Morale and/or event experience modifiers do NOT apply in Exercises."

[sterile bluff]

that's morale

that's not affection right?

[elder crane]

yep, it's the +20% XP for full morale

[sterile bluff]

oh phew

scared me

[elder crane]

and PvP doesn't count as a normal sortie basically

[sterile bluff]

i shall continue to oath for stats then

[elder crane]

anyways, back to what I wanted to say

457 on warkai only speeds things up

per-salvo, it does about the same damage as 410 AP, just loads a lot faster

also +20 FP I suppose

[sterile bluff]

i think triple 410 does more dmg per shot considering it's 154 * 3 = 462 vs 207 * 2 = 414

457 loads 3.49s faster

hmm wait

but 457 shoots AP+

ehhh

[shell heron]

I suppose you can argue that a slightly lower spread with 2 shells vs 3

but you're tossing it on Warkai with spread reduction skill

[sterile bluff]

lmao that's gonna be so satisfying

the spread reduction

her accuracy is gonna be insane

[shell heron]

idk. I've been using triple 410 because triple BB offense. No need for all 3 to use HE

[sterile bluff]

im just trying to compare the dps between 457 and 410

🤔

[shell heron]

I'll need to see how accurate it is. If all shells land on a target for either gun, then triple 410 might edge out ahead

[sterile bluff]

r u talking dmg per shot or dps?

[shell heron]

DPS

[sterile bluff]

if it's dps i think 457 is higher

[ripe latch]

3x381

[sterile bluff]

cuz i just remembered 457 shoots AP+ and has better modifiers than normal AP

[shell heron]

I'm not gonna made claims yet until I see damage numbers

[sterile bluff]

so 154 * 3 * 1.3 = 600.6 and 207 * 2 * 1.45 = 600.3
600.6/24.14 = 24.88 and 600.3/20.65 = 29.07

[shell heron]

will be a while before I make one to compare

[sterile bluff]

ofc this isn't the actual dps cuz i didn't consider fp and other stuff

[shell heron]

I think what might put the 457 ahead would be the faster reload

you're not getting an extra round of shells out unless the match goes on for too long

but sinking someone faster helps

[sterile bluff]

the reason why 457 is extremely valuable in pvp is cuz warkai's initial nuke will chunk like 70% of the hp of say a med armor CV, and her first shot with the 457 is gonna hit that target again cuz of the marker, but when she fires, it'll be before any CV can launch

thus she can basically delete any med armor CV from existence before they literally do anything

at least that's what ive been told

by zack

LOL

flame him

[shell heron]

I don't disagree with that. Or in the case of PvP, it would be proccing hiryuu extra early

[sterile bluff]

oh hiryuu is another case

cuz she got invincibility

but for CVs that don't

it's a death sentence for them

[shell heron]

we had this discussion before. whether we target hiryuu first is all preference.

It's not ideal, but neither is letting her procc late

[sterile bluff]

how about we never let her proc

and still win

brain expansion

[elder crane]

The AP+ mods makes up for it, yeah

so despite the lower total base damage, 457 does pretty much just as much damage per-salvo as 410AP

also, 457 has the spread of triples, not duals, but it has 16 splash radius instead of 15

and yeah, the thing about 457 is being able to pre-empt CVs and mk6/410AP/triple381

[sterile bluff]

just curious what's the fastest CV launch possible in the game?

[shell heron]

outside of Akaga?

[karmic forum]

Akagi or Kaga (/w fast launch loadout) + Nagato/Mikasa flag + Bataan, Casablanca in other fleet, Cats (Bishmaru + Eagle) /w RLD talents.

Something like that

[shell heron]

don't forget beacon. buffs seem to be additive so it can prob go down to sub 10s

[stone grove]

Slightly late but
Yeah Akaga is probably fastest
Only others I can think of with an initial strike reduc are muse Akagi & Casablanca off the top of my head
Neither of which are good for PvP

[shell heron]

reasonably fast would be Akaga with beacon

no, bishamaru requires 1 CV/CVL to get that 8%

[sterile bluff]

but is that fast enough to beat a barrage BB?

[jagged steppe]

they sould implemen equipment gacha

t

and put fire radar there

[empty grove]

That's when I quit

[finite valve]

just tell inter to just give out radar as reward to everyone

[jagged steppe]

warspite monarch qe triple fire radar huehuehuehue

or rainbow catapult with 200 avi

or just pr 3 with rainbow catapult

[finite valve]

at this point just straight up put the item in cash shop

$5 per rainbow gear

[empty grove]

Idc about a cash shop but fuck another gacha

As long as it has a purchase limit & people can't just buy out everything on game start

[jagged steppe]

how about adding a very very hard map that torpedo hit like scroll shooting game that drop rainbow gear to make game more interesting

[shy hazel]

good thing about hfscr not being in event is

ppl who played late will never have it

[jagged steppe]

god damn it

[ionic magnet]

who needs hfcr
theyll powercreep that garbo soon anyways

[sterile bluff]

hopefully

[jagged steppe]

add submarine to pvp

[shy hazel]

its alrdy been 2 yrs what

still one of the best pvp aux

[sterile bluff]

i just want good shit

[finite valve]

atm i want sub PR 3 DC to be a thing

imagine farming 3.6 mill exp using sub

[elder crane]

Pretty sure beacon isn't additive
Bishmaru is though, so might be worth running 1 CV instead for that

actually, pretty sure it's worth running 1 CV for Bish

[sterile bluff]

D:

should i mass pull for the fw rateup?

[ionic magnet]

youre still kinda new right
worth to throw a few multis for minnie/wash
but as for collecting all of them, no just forget it
you will never reach 100% collection anyway

[jagged steppe]

depend on how much cube/coin you have/generated per day

I generate 20-25 coint per day / 10 cube per day so I dont have any problem

[empty grove]

I wouldn't bother pulling unless you're a whale tbh

[jagged steppe]

*20-25k

[empty grove]

They go perma

Maybe just for norcal so you aren't wasting CD

Wait nvm

She goes perma too

It was West Virginia in CD

[sterile bluff]

@jagged steppe 10 cube per day?

how?

[empty grove]

[ionic magnet]

wow took me a full 1 min to decipher what the fk is CD

[empty grove]

Core Data

[sterile bluff]

also going to perma means u can't pull them cuz all the pools except light r infested af

[empty grove]

Nah

[sterile bluff]

yes

[empty grove]

It means you'll get spooked by them during event pulls

[sterile bluff]

...

[empty grove]

& wanna die for spending 400 on a rate up

[sterile bluff]

i got 350 cubes, ill just pull until i get minne

cuz she's t0

[jagged steppe]

then why the fuck are you asking then if u gonna pull anyway

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

Ah, that's how I lost those 2 times. I almost lost a 3rd time because Nagato said no when I asked for barrage

[empty grove]

I just got triple fucked on refreshes

[eager cedar]

ah yes, i too enjoy getting fucked in the ass by rng

[shell heron]

I was watching for the first 30s and saw my vg win the fight while still healthy

then in 10s it was down to my ws and their amagi at low hp

and amagi fired first

[zenith tundra]

is there such a thing as wasting core data? i have too much to even use it all

[upper sparrow]

wash-sodak gonna be meta again in pvp amagi server

[past egret]

I remember back in Washington when WASD Enty was the meta fleet

Good times

[upper sparrow]

wash-sodak and eldridge

[past egret]

Eldy use to be a bitch

Now...

🚮

[zenith tundra]

wasde was worse meta possible downright as bad as namaryuu meta

[past egret]

At least meta has evolved into something where viability exists

What was wrong with WASDE meta ?

Didn’t seem so bad to me

Countered the good ol’ foxes

Besides sitting through Enty lucky e resets until it procs

[zenith tundra]

literally rng resets just because ur eldridge didn't proc evasion and opponent enty proc lucky e

namaryuu mirror is bad. wasde mirror with eldridge and helena was pure rng fest

[eager cedar]

i dont even bother doing all my hm

i just do one for daily

[empty grove]

[upper sparrow]

wasd with warkai sounds legit tho

wasd warkai and torpmeme how?

[past egret]

WASD Warkai sounds like free win

Unless you’re just using it for offensive

[zenith tundra]

as in ws doing all work and the other 2 watching?

[empty grove]

I've still yet to use WS in PVP

[past egret]

Same no Warkai retrofit item

Where Warkai would normally be in a formation I’ve found other ships can make up for her loss just being less effective as her

SHS salvos

[empty grove]

I just stuck with namaryuu

[zenith tundra]

if u want to u can stick with namaryuu till pr3

[empty grove]

PR3 will be cancer

[past egret]

WASDE still works

[zenith tundra]

hopefully not

[empty grove]

That never worked

[past egret]

PR3 is this month ?

[zenith tundra]

i'm just worried at how broken pr cv can be

[empty grove]

I still have PTSD of E vs E

[past egret]

Last two PR’s got revealed in April(s of the year they got teased)

[zenith tundra]

should be this month but it's not guaranteed

[empty grove]

Inb4 given to EN immediately

When no one on any of the servers has a DR dev 30

[past egret]

Someone has dev 27 FDG

Good enough right?

[empty grove]

I have dev 28 azuma

[past egret]

Even better

[empty grove]

That's still 90 away

[zenith tundra]

i'm actually curious if they will ever catch up en in pr

[empty grove]

Well, they could

[past egret]

Watch this PR3 just be shit

Izumo Level ships

[empty grove]

But it'd come at the cost of slowing the other servers down

[zenith tundra]

izumo is not bad just requires full fate to be good

[empty grove]

Fate 5 Azuma

[past egret]

Fate for pr2

[zenith tundra]

another 250bps for fate 5 dr...

[past egret]

Who gets what skill buffed

[empty grove]

Another 6 months for non whale

[past egret]

I hope Azuma gets the Roon end of the stick

Most useless skill buffed for fate

[zenith tundra]

it would make her even more broken in pvp

and pretty sure roon gets 2nd best upgrade after izumo

[empty grove]

I thought monarch had the worst one

[past egret]

All it is is shields proc at the start of battle

[empty grove]

It's like a single tic

[past egret]

Don’t block nothing

Maybe Azuma shots but

[zenith tundra]

say that to sirens

[past egret]

Mmmm I didn’t take pve into account

[zenith tundra]

roon is not a pvp ship

like at all

[empty grove]

That's 100% monarch being the worst

[past egret]

@zenith tundra to faction perfectionists she is

Still dog tier though no defending it

[zenith tundra]

too bad that is a meme not actual pvp

[past egret]

2 seconds

poggers

[zenith tundra]

monarch was broken enough

no need to buff her

[empty grove]

It's still the worst fate sim tho