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vague token
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lower burst

elder crane
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That's cause it's DpS sorting, which ignores initial burst and AA gun range effects

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First is kinda a big deal since planes only get like 2-3 AA gun reloads off, if even that

zenith tundra
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wouldn't w13 be the one place where u can actually shoot more?

elder crane
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It is, but you still only can push out two reloads of cannons at best and 3 of MGs, roughly, before plane reaches end of screen and despawns

hot creek
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for context, I just need to know for mob fleet

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im using Unicorn/Essex/Enty

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essexE have their hellcats

zenith tundra
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mob fleet can get much worse then bosses for AA in 3* cv nodes

hot creek
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so im deciding what to use on UniSip , right now im using pirate and it seems ok but just wondering if I could do better

elder crane
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I'd actually consider Me155

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That helps you space out airstrikes

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For smoother dmg output and more consistent plane AA

hot creek
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alright its meme time, baby.

elder crane
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For auto, I'd unironically rec Me on Uni, VF-17 on, I think Essex launches faster naturally? And hellcat on Enty

upper sparrow
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messer beacon MutsukiHyperStare

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eh beacon effect cant stack isn't?

hot creek
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i am fully manualing

elder crane
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Oh, then spacing doesn't matter

upper sparrow
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btw how much akagi kaga first launch time with beacon and standard bis eq

elder crane
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I would rec ryuus on everyone if you have them to spare though

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Priority Enty>Uni>Essex probably

hot creek
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really. all I remember is not using Hellcats and getting rekt

elder crane
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Akaga launches at ~11 s with that

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Ryuusei

hot creek
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ok you're talking to the other guy lol

elder crane
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Not Reppu

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Ryuusei is the converging TB
Has better AA than Cudas, actually

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You can also consider Firebrand meme if you have that

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That's another one of those "secretly kinda a fighter" not-fighter planes

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Btw, jfyi
The gold DB with 2x1k lb bombs, forget the name, also has good AA guns, and actually has fighter evasion cap (iirc 7%) instead of the usual ~1% DBs get
It's pretty nice for auto since they don't get cucked as hard by the AA barges
Less of an issue for manual ofc

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Which also reminds me, that's another thing VF-17 has as a bonus
1% higher evasion cap than the other gold fighters

frail orbit
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U meant BTD?

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Or Firefly?

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Firefly it is if best AA and 2x1k db

hot creek
zenith tundra
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i would say

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no

hot creek
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i think i would have lost if that shot was a crit

shell heron
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you got some good early luck zack. I'm 10 points behind you UniSip

hot creek
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how many pts

shell heron
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266

hot creek
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wao

shell heron
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below average but not dead reset level

zenith tundra
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i already have bonuses for next reset too lol

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@elder crane do u have any idea how much it takes for planes to travel from 1 end to the other of the screen?

elder crane
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It's roughly somewhat over 3 s before they despawn iirc
Hard to say for sure since they're offscreen normally at that point

zenith tundra
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ok thanks

forest lake
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Itadakimasu

jagged steppe
ripe latch
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๐Ÿ– TrentoBlush

jagged steppe
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how is my list having 5 bagger doing last 5min x5 for 2 reset already

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like how

zenith tundra
zenith tundra
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another border event next... i have 0 bullins

hot creek
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how about 0 cubes BuckySmug

zenith tundra
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i have cubes if i don't get really unlucky

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might finally be time for uss flagship since is an uss related event

static gull
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what exactly event are you talking about? where are leaks?

zenith tundra
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jp patch notes in alec server

hot creek
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I hope another random HMS ship is introduced and steals the show SandyMeme

zenith tundra
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tbh i would prefer if they just did rerun of ce and fw

hot creek
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Yes, an extra HPFCR would buff my janky Doy comp DorkHeart

upper sparrow
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hpfcr KEKsociety

charred sable
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Did I miss 5 attacks? UniCry

zenith tundra
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yes...

forest lake
charred sable
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well, there goes the season UniCry

zenith tundra
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i'm kind of curious how u manage to miss 5 attempts

charred sable
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forgetting to check before midnight cause I was engrossed in my work UniCry

upper sparrow
hot creek
upper sparrow
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doing what JavHeh

hot creek
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They both have Femdom tendencies. But Nep isn't as hardcore as Ajax SandyMeme

forest lake
zenith tundra
whole terrace
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How?? Are you just getting lucky?

zenith tundra
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maybe but usually it happens on my jp account too

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or maybe avrora has actual activity like jp. dunno

whole terrace
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you normally start each reset with 10 attacks right?

zenith tundra
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yes

whole terrace
zenith tundra
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what server are u on?

whole terrace
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Avrora

zenith tundra
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the one thing i would say is try and always check for people moving at the beginning of the reset. it makes the rest of the reset easier. if no one moves might as well try and use a refresh

whole terrace
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Yeah I was up at 6.30am to do 5 attacks, and to try and catch the rushers shortly after the reset at 7am UK time. Currently debating if it's worth it lol

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And then no one moved after all that lmao

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It's normally better tbf

shell heron
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That is some pretty insane luck to get consistent movers.

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3 is average, 4 is rare and I never seen 5 yet

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6 sounds impossible til now

forest lake
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Wait did pvp chat got moved up

elder crane
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I've had 7 that one time over a reset, that was niiiice

forest lake
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All these lucsaccs

tough dirge
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mine are just

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NOT RANKING

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o

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How much is bonus merit?

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kinda hoped for lv 102 to go rank

tough dirge
high bay
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welp i'll just become food

shell heron
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Ill be looking for you now UniSip

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Where's all the hard pushers. All i see are wanna be sandbaggers and casuals

inner zenith
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@zenith tundra ur on EN ๐Ÿ‘€

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what server

zenith tundra
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avrora. i'm just playing someone else account for a bit

tough dirge
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;;;;w;;;;; plis rank

karmic forum
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Judging from the levels, probably not

shell heron
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Maybe the 110 but better to move in 10 min if nothing

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But could be a casual so smolspiteW

karmic forum
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Sometimes when I see a sandbagger I wonder if they also have me on their list and we're just playing this game of chicken until one of us moves

tough dirge
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yup

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i had my hopes up for 110

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but ill just attqck and wait until last 3 min for last ones

shell heron
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I played chicken with another sandbagger once

tough dirge
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im no food

shell heron
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It was on final reset

tough dirge
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oh man

karmic forum
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I used to wait before 5 mins left sometimes but the meta is a lot slower now

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And I haven't sandbagged in a while so better play it safe

shell heron
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But 7/10 is a little rough to get anymore bonuses

tough dirge
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yea

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am at 6 now

shell heron
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Yes matches can take 40s or 1 min+ for me

tough dirge
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if i use up all 6 in a row ill probably be like 150 or higher anyway

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if you battle the last 3 seconds, will you just end up 9/10 after the battle

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instead of 10/10

shell heron
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10s if its a super meme fleet

karmic forum
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I'm just assuming everyone uses nagami + ws kai on offense

tough dirge
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like when i have 6/10 and use one before reset i should have 10

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but when it resets and i have 10 and i battle i have 9 tries left

karmic forum
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10s battle time but getting through all of the interfaces and loading screens also takes time

tough dirge
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but if the timer resets during that time its basically rip

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and you use an attempt after the reset i assume

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even tho u entered battle before

shell heron
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Yes. The attempt is used on completion of a match

tough dirge
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ah

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fair enough so no entering battle on the final second AkagiLUL

shell heron
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Or I would cheat and get an extra 10 points if it lets me do that smolspiteW

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@zenith tundra now im 12 behind you. Stop luccsaccing these people UniSip

zenith tundra
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i can't really play next reset since i have to sleep

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gonna try and check from time to time in my sleep

shell heron
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That sounds like an awful idea. Just push and sleep instead

karmic forum
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Every time I try to set an alarm in the middle of the night, I always sleep through it

zenith tundra
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it is an awful idea but i would use more then 1 attempt right now anyway and just wait for reset to get another bonus at least

shell heron
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I turn off my alarm in my sleep. Dont trust my phone anymore

zenith tundra
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the problem is that en and jp schedules don't match like at all

shell heron
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Weird. Is it that DST stuff?

zenith tundra
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daily reset jp 5pm daily reset en 9am MutsukiCurse

tough dirge
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they dont wanna do EN

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so i have to stay up until 4 am for a reset

tough dirge
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People aren't ranking even though it's last 4 minutes gang, thumbs up if relatable

shell heron
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I forgot to move til now comfySlain

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hope I make it

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noooo disconnetc

zenith tundra
shell heron
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I can't get stalled out now

static gull
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1 000 000 oh my gosh

shell heron
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yes Stella is another hoarder like me

buoyant parrot
zenith tundra
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anything under 4 attempts will be fine

shell heron
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I was at 4 attempts

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but I got some easy targets so I'm safe

buoyant parrot
static gull
shell heron
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wait...I'm only 3 points up of you

zenith tundra
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he is at 4/10 tho

shell heron
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oh yea UniSip

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but last reset was still bad. only one bonus match

vague token
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same

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got ryuujou finally, now i can go back to dailies only

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xD

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more refresh and less grinding until w/e we get on the next event

zenith tundra
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did u get akashi skin?

vague token
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not yet but it's like super close

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1500 points

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ends on the 25th, plenty of time

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can do like 12-4 once a day probably and hit that

zenith tundra
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jp gets sara skin farming too so idk if i want to finish the 2k i need for akashi skin or just wait to farm both

vague token
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probably wait unless the chapters arent the same

zenith tundra
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it's the same thing. all chapters past 3 and sp maps

vague token
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oh then yeah xD

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i personally would wait but it's up to you WarShrug

zenith tundra
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i think i'll wait just for clearing mode

shell heron
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talking about the coupons per run?

zenith tundra
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yeah. kind of don't want to farm if a new event is coming

shell heron
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It's bad

zenith tundra
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but i like that akashi skin and sara finally gets her best skin

shell heron
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when sp3 matches ch9

zenith tundra
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i farm 9-4 with qe dido so i might one day test them in pvp

vague token
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is hibiscus idol rerunning in jp?

zenith tundra
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1st run

vague token
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oh, how did we get that before jp lol

zenith tundra
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dunno

vague token
zenith tundra
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that sara skin is one thing i missed about en. it's so cute

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and now my sara is 120 with like 2.8m xp

karmic forum
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Huh JP is just getting that skin

vague token
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it's the best one aside from retro

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because she doesnt seem as smol in it

karmic forum
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I use it over retro

vague token
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xD

zenith tundra
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it's only jp that for some reason didn't get that skin. even cn has it

tough dirge
zenith tundra
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my list is till stuck

tough dirge
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dontn even know if i can beat this guy

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Im noob shikikan

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my defense fleet all i gut FumizukiCross

vague token
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just toss juneau in

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would help a lot

tough dirge
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dont have but when theres no endless events ill farm

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aye i won

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and no sandy mic FeelsBadMan

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basically a zero

zenith tundra
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it takes time

tough dirge
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yea

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at least im starting to understand gear, now need to get into bis research equipment

shell heron
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PvP gear stays pretty consistent imo

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Once you learn what main gun goes on what kind of ship

forest lake
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115 Buki MutsukiMegaStare

vague token
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how does your ws do so little damage

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sub 20k is like super weird

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unless first barrage whiffs i guess

forest lake
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Buki killed them all

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Idek what happened actually

coral wren
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Anyone from NA that lives in server's timezone? can tell me at what time exactly are the refreshes

zenith tundra
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server times resets are at 12am 12pm and 6pm

elder crane
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Noon, midnight, 6 PM PDT

coral wren
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ty

hot creek
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for east coast, shift by an additional 3 hrs.

charred sable
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next reset is in 28 minutes from now

zenith tundra
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i'm still waiting at 9/10.. rip this reset

forest lake
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3 bonuses this time around uniflox

zenith tundra
ripe latch
vague token
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might have lost a match to connection lost

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not sure though

zenith tundra
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what's the score?

vague token
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525

zenith tundra
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i'm at 547... most likely u lost one

vague token
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rip

forest lake
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I'm at 530 no losses

zenith tundra
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did u sandbag kiro?

vague token
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casually yeah

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havent been many bonuses lately

static gull
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ayanami says ayaya and die in first 10 seconds

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I'm at 530 no losses
@forest lake i am 515, does it mean that you gain additional bonus points or i lost an attempt somehowMutsukiHyperStare

forest lake
eternal bramble
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is there any way to counter warspite's despacito?

forest lake
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Use Rudder and pray

vague token
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suruga soaks it pretty easily

hot creek
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at the very least, have a rudder and make sure a heavy armor ship is absorbing it

vague token
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although heavy ships should have base hp, formidable doesnt tank it that well even with her dr and heavy armor

forest lake
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do a 5head and let a light armor absorb it

zenith tundra
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5min before reset and everyone still dead. it's been a while since last time

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4.5 attempts in 4 min. ws magic with 457

hot creek
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if your score is high from a good start you will eventually end up in such a score range

zenith tundra
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i had other runs with similar scores but never ended up with +0

hot creek
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then just unlucky I guess

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but yes eventually you get into a weird spot where all your opponents are baddies who've already lost matches or just have such a low score that they are at 5/10 while you're at 10/10

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so they aren't obligated to do their matches for that round.

zenith tundra
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the 2nd reset of the day is usually pretty dead in jp but u find at least 1 random guy using attempts in the middle of it

high bay
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i missed one reset

zenith tundra
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that last reset was when i caught with minimum score. i guess those people were really just at 5/10 and not playing that reset

static gull
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resets are very tricky if you have average fleet )

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i'm always worried doing it

zenith tundra
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u should start earlier if u know u struggle.
i just somehow got stalled by a juneau saint yukikaze vg for 1:40 wtf

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1min to kill saint and another 40s to kill yukikaze

jagged steppe
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man

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should I stay 5/10 to farm rusher

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cuz 10/10 and everyone is bagger

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like they dont do pvp

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and last 5min they give +1

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while staying 5/10 I see people are like giving +2 +1

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+3 total

zenith tundra
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+3 is not much but better then +1

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i got +8 in jp in those 3 attempts

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u should try and start with a higher score it will help not running into all sandbagger list

jagged steppe
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when im at 10/10

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everyone are like

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lv110 117 112

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when im 5/10 everyone are like lv90

upper sparrow
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funny enough most rusher i meet is commander level 70-85

ripe latch
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when u play on top50 & get only 110+ shikkans

jagged steppe
forest lake
jagged steppe
forest lake
jagged steppe
forest lake
ripe latch
upper sparrow
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hey zack @zenith tundra, do you know what suruga barrage ammo modifier is?

zenith tundra
forest lake
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Not sure if updated with Suruga

elder crane
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It has the NU ships already WarShrug

zenith tundra
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seems lke normal bb ammo modifier

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for strong shoots

elder crane
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or like, he didn't reupdate with EN skill names for the NU ships after he added it in with CN names after datamine CleveXD

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yeah, it is

forest lake
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Well I haven't touched it in a long time so mutjerry

upper sparrow
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thx peepoLove

jagged steppe
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how do I calculate barrage final damage?

zenith tundra
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en wiki has the final dmg for all parts.
to calculate manually is base damage x total rounds x coefficient x ammo modifier for each section of the barrage

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i'm pretty sure at that must be added firepower for actual values but not sure what the actual formula is that takes firepower into account

elder crane
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it's normal FP scaling

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(100+FP)/100
a few barrages have special barrage-only mods on FP though

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the Enbayft doc does all the non-FP scaling for you already

zenith tundra
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oh good to know thank you. now i can actually calculate barrage dmg

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dunno why i didn't think about using that...

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so the whole formula is (1oo+fp)/100 x base damage x total rounds x coefficient x armor modifier

midnight heron
zenith tundra
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do u know how the non 1x fp scaling is calculated? like 0.8x(fp+100)/100 or ((0.8xfp)+100)/100

jagged steppe
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does 6600 scale with fp?

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!

zenith tundra
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all barrages should scale with a stat

jagged steppe
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does 6600 already calculated with 400 base fp or not?

zenith tundra
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those are raw values without fp scaling included

elder crane
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use the enbayft doc
that makes it much clearer

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also gives breakdown by shot count and damage per shot

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also explicitly gives ammo mods

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wiki table is just YorkBruh
good for a casual glance I suppose

zenith tundra
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can u answer what i posted earlier?

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on fp scaling?

jagged steppe
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(0.8xfp)+100 make more sense

elder crane
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it's that, yeah

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scaling on the stat itself

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which is weird

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but WarShrug

zenith tundra
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ok thx

jagged steppe
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any tip on surving nagato barrage?

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viving

zenith tundra
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for vg not much u can do just hope they don't face tank it. for backlines use eva aux

elder crane
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VH Azuma BuckyPride
other than that, not really

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for main fleet, you want a heavy armor ship

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going from med -> heavy, Nagato's barrage damage is almost cut in half

jagged steppe
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are nagato user like 40% chance to instant win the battle after first fire?

elder crane
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on offense, sure

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on defense, it's not that bad

zenith tundra
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u can still lose on offense tbh depends of who the other 2 ships are

elder crane
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well, assuming fleets of same power level, it's very rare to lose as offense if Nagato procs immediately

zenith tundra
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u still lose with nakaga against a good defensive comp even if nagato procs

elder crane
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Yes, because their fleet is better

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i meant power level generically

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not fleet power (lol)

zenith tundra
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not bad

coral wren
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what server is that zack im only on 605 BuckyPride

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if its avrora it probably makes sense

jagged steppe
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67 bullins

shell heron
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I'm slowly slipping behind you

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further behind that is PortDoll

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yes, peco don't buy anything off the merit shop ever

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I'm only at 880k myself

coral wren
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the shop doesnt even stock them that fast

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would probably take you like 2 months to even purchase them all

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i just sit with 50 of each bulin in my dock PurinXD

shell heron
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one day I'll buy 50 eldridges UniSip

coral wren
zenith tundra
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it is avrora

shell heron
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I still havent seen that kind of luck for a few seasons now

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I wonder is this is how Famine gets 2600+

static gull
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he got 50 eldridges

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and become Zeus

zenith tundra
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pretty sure he actually knows rushers by now and uses that as an advantage. i just leave it to luck trying to get as many bonuses

shell heron
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made a spreadsheet of known rushers UniSip

coral wren
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thats a little too serious for my tastes anyway

zenith tundra
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it is for me too. i just prefer using attempts and hoping but to be consistent top eos u definitely need more then luck

static gull
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i need you schedule, working hours and battery levelAkagiYan information

shell heron
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It's nice for early season if you have one. too many players on the same playing field

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You remember most sandbaggers eventaually

ripe latch
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@zenith tundra hiryuu meta done or not?

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see only ws kai

zenith tundra
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it's just that ws kills stuff faster then u can do with hiryuu

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i couldn't beat ws amagi fdg defense with namagi WS* while namaryuu never loses. it's really just that ws makes thing faster till u hit actually amazing defense teams where u will need either a tank or someone that can clear the opponents

static gull
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have you seen meta with sovetskaya ?

ripe latch
zenith tundra
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i don't think she is meta at all

coral wren
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i always find on sandy that like 90% of players dont do pvp

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i think only around 3000 people get over 1000 score

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so getting points early is pretty much luck

static gull
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anyway, that shikikan has another strong waifu in fleet

ripe latch
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1000 , kekw

zenith tundra
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u can win against that because fdg tanks all focus dmg forever by herself. with ws that fight would've been much faster

ripe latch
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46 luck not for pvp

zenith tundra
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instead of rossiya

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amagi has 23...

static gull
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i wonder why tashkent isn't for pvp with her stats

zenith tundra
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rossiya has no synergies which hurts her the most

vague token
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because no durability

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ykkz is the one and only destroyer ever used

static gull
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but tashi can slow others and it has 85 luck with decent stats

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mb in formidable + centaur fleet can be used

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or no

zenith tundra
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i don't have her leveled to try out

vague token
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i mean the slow is cool but it doesnt match 25% chance to negate any damage x_X

ripe latch
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@zenith tundra amagi have evas rate , sovet nothing...

zenith tundra
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if u want to make sure enemy vg dies just use aurora then. it's not like the slow will do that much more for cv

vague token
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unless you're running ryuusei slow is more helpful for bbs and other vg gun damage

zenith tundra
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i know it's just luck isn't everything

jagged steppe
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SHAME

ripe latch
zenith tundra
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tanking 1min of amagi + ws focus and still alive. that's fdg

jagged steppe
zenith tundra
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suruga can mvp too with 457 over amagi and nagato. that gun is that strong

static gull
zenith tundra
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winning 1 mvp in pvp doesn't mean much since yukikaze can do that too... i'll try her if i ever get to level her but again ws there would do much more then rossiya

jagged steppe
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I still need essex and baltimore for meme fleet

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rerun when

ripe latch
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but balti usless..

zenith tundra
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when i find a good namagi ws comp i'll show u what ws can do against that. way easier fights then 1min

jagged steppe
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I just need 15% air amp

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and sirius

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does it stack?

static gull
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ws stands for warspite?

zenith tundra
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yes

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ws is warspite and they do stack

static gull
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i wish i hadnamagi

jagged steppe
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and helena proc launcing first air strike enterprise essex and their whole fleet kaput

ripe latch
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w8 when helena proc YorkBruh

zenith tundra
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that's old enty team again back from eldridge meta

ripe latch
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seems better w8 for shangri-la

zenith tundra
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same thing just more buffers and less burst

jagged steppe
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I want nagato

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i'll equip her with 403 triple

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with helena proc and record video

ripe latch
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enemy proc ihr UniSip

jagged steppe
glacial shuttle
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best vanguard to use with KGV + Formi + Centaur?

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no Sheffield

shell heron
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Neptune,Noshiro,Belfast, and any of the other usual fill ship with Juneau and Yukikaze is always good

glacial shuttle
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Would this be good enough?

elder crane
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Aux gun you'll want to swap out eventually for PR guns
White shell is questionable, I'd much rather take another SG radar

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you don't actually lose any average damage vs enemy vanguard, and you're a good chunk tankier

glacial shuttle
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I do have some Nepguns, is that better then?

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also it's an album

elder crane
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I'd rec switching formi over to fighter version

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Do you have VF-17?

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and yes, Nepgun is better

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Juneau can take the single 130 or twin 130 if you can spare either
personally, I'm a fan of twin 100 mm on ykkz to shore up her AA and make her tankier vs that
I see a distinct lack of boilers on vanguard, which is questionable - get those rudders and toolkits outta there!
Also two torpbulges is very questionable, only lead and trailing vanguards need it, and trailing is arguable, though if you're having particular trouble with vanguard torps, WarShrug

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you also probably need to tune Formidable launch timing more
with current setup, her stop is very much not at the right timing for centaur
fighter will get you much closer, you can also change Cent fighter to match timing better; alternatively/in addition, consider using beacon on Formi

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you basically want Formidable stop to apply right as centaur's TBs drop their torps

hot creek
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ryuusei centaur? spicy SandyMeme

buoyant parrot
glacial shuttle
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no VF-17, sadly. Joined too late
and I've got no 138/130 to spare, sadly
so swap YKKZ toolbox for a boiler and add Sea Fury for Formi (because only got 2 Reppu)
Should I swap Fuel or Rudder for Beacon on Formi?

karmic forum
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Got 5 bonus matches this reset GWseremePeepoGGERS

elder crane
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Fuel probably, for tankiness reasons
Also probably fury on centaur and Reppu on Formi is better for timing reasons

vague token
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0 bonus reset fun times probably

forest lake
shell heron
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Iโ€™m sitting on 1

zenith tundra
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i got 2 this reset so far

tough dirge
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i got People that dont wanna rank

shell heron
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I would have taken the 1610 if nobody else moved

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there we go. I knew one on my list would move eventually

tough dirge
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I cant beat them is the problem

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btw 5 more mins

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I got 10/10 monkaEEGA

forest lake
tough dirge
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just gotta speedrun and say F bonus

upper sparrow
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me got 0 bonus this reset too, tf is going on here PepeCoffeeDrink

tough dirge
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I doubt anyone wouldve sandbagged me this late though

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if i rank now

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7/10 monkaEEGA 2:21

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6/10 1:05 monkaEEGA

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Nailed it OkayChamp

zenith tundra
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don't think ending so late helps avoiding full sandbaggers list

hot creek
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pvp seems to be more active lately. or maybe we're just getting lucky BuckySmug

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maybe all this virus business has people playing more

tough dirge
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not the issue

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I just forgot about exercise

empty owl
forest lake
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Not really

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I'd replace Aurora for Juneau instead cuz she doesn't really do much here

empty owl
forest lake
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I mean sure, but she's more commonly used for Formi/Cent cuz BB shells would whiff

empty owl
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Umu ok

forest lake
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And also due to WarKai's target focus your chances of hitting VG would be lesser too

zenith tundra
karmic forum
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pog

elder crane
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Yeah, I wouldn't mind yeeting Bel and Aurora there for Dido and Juneau
Basically a better version of what those two do

zenith tundra
hot creek
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Maybe. Too hard to tell. I would lean towards no, however.

zenith tundra
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i think it's 1 attempt

hot creek
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Actually idk.

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Well, now you have to attack. For science. BuckySmug

zenith tundra
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sure doing it now

hot creek
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noice

static gull
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What is better as torpedo bombers ?

zenith tundra
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it comes down to comp and how many and which cv are u using.

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for 2 cv double cudas works as well as 818 ryuusei if u can match their timings well

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for single cv i would pick either 818 or cuda if u cannot match time with bb. hiryuu prefers ryuusei because of her final counter

static gull
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i have 2 baracudas but wonder if core shop fair-something-else would be better for foxes

zenith tundra
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that's 818

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i haven't tested myself with foxes to know what is best setup tbh. if u don't have problems with opponent vg double cuda should be fine

static gull
hot creek
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wew I almost lost a charge cause I miscounted

zenith tundra
static gull
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i play on sandy and it's like below 1000 rank there are no activity at all

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797 wow

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now i feel like i lost some charges

zenith tundra
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i'm getting really lucky with bonuses it seems

static gull
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i win only twice people below 10 ranks

zenith tundra
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time for uss flagship

upper sparrow
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ashen rerun kms

zenith tundra
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we just have to wait for ship announcements now to see wtf it is

elder crane
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With Balti, pretty much 100% ashen rerun
Which almost certainly means no FW rerun, I would think

zenith tundra
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but it's really weird that there is an ashen rerun so fast

forest lake
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When was Ashen even

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Last year August?

zenith tundra
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yeah july-august

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but we still didn't get ce rerun

forest lake
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Yea exactly

zenith tundra
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that was more then 1 year ago

forest lake
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No rule saying that a ship can't appear in gacha twice

zenith tundra
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the only one that appeared in 2 is essex iirc. she was in anniversary and air drills

elder crane
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Yep, which wasn't exactly standard

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Alternatively, Balti could be in story but not in event ships

shy hazel
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more like

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they got no other uss event they can rerun maybe

zenith tundra
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fw

shy hazel
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i mean yeah but also no

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cos we know the reason

zenith tundra
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en maint suck. like wtf is 6hr for a maint that lasted 3:30 for jp and even less for cn...

forest lake
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Same for me every season

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So idk

zenith tundra
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he did like at least 3-4 attempts with - because everyone else is 40 pts behind

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there is just no way to be ahead of a sandbagger while eating - points by that margin

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sandbagging question: i'm 2 points away from reaching exactly 1050 pts after 6 attempts. should i only get a +1 and get 1061 in 7 attempts or try and get 3 bonuses for 1061 with a chance for more if i find more rushers?

shy hazel
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just move

hot creek
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sounds like you are still far away from that breaking point. just sandbag BuckySmug

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also looks like you can pass that guy with 8/10 , 962

zenith tundra
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even with all +12 is only 96 pts and that guy is over 100 ahead

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also 7 attempts is 1 reset since i already got 3 bonuses this one

hot creek
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oh nvm, i miscalc'd

zenith tundra
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it's 1048 rn without any bonus

shy hazel
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oh lol

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they extended mt again

zenith tundra
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rip

karmic forum
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It's been a while since maint apologems

upper sparrow
zenith tundra
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it would be about time for some more

elder crane
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You'd have to skip a lot of potential bonus just for a +1 to do this

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Not really worth atm

upper sparrow
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moar extended maintenance plz Kapp

tough dirge
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im afraid im going to lose my attempts

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because of this maintenance

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Last time I sent a message i this channel I still had 5:30h

zenith tundra
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i'll see how next reset goes but rn i won't get anymore bonuses

elder crane
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They'd have to maint extra 6H

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Unless you are busy soon

upper sparrow
tough dirge
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o

zenith tundra
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if it goes to 12hrs i can at least stop sandbagging in en and rest normally

tough dirge
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oh

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next reset should be in 2 hours?

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or am i wrong

karmic forum
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I believe that there was only one time where extended maint caused people to lose exercises

zenith tundra
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5:40 to next reset

hot creek
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nah, at least twice thats happened

upper sparrow
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u mean scherzo maint

hot creek
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i know cause I lost charges once, while the next next time I bet on extended maint and rushed to cover my ass. easiest r1 that season

zenith tundra
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ui 2.0 maintenances were "fun" indeed

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even 3 jp servers have problems it seems like sandy did. i guess it's time for them to upgrade those servers with all the money they get from skins

jagged steppe
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oboi then I only need essex now

forest lake
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New Essex class girl tho

zenith tundra
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not uss flagship ๐Ÿšฎ

forest lake
zenith tundra
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list 100% dead after maint so far

forest lake
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I rushed instantly just in case I accidentally fell asleep

jagged steppe
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last reset I got +0 but I got a very good sleep

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you jelly?

zenith tundra
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sleep is overrated

jagged steppe
zenith tundra
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trying to relog to refresh pvp list was a bad idea... now locked off the server

hot creek
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same

shell heron
midnight heron
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great having server problems again

zenith tundra
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it's time for them to upgrade the servers already

stoic vector
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haven't played azur lane in a while, how has pvp changed? the last event i remember was formidable

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uh oh i'm scared

empty grove
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My god

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Are they capable of having a maintenance without bricking the fucking game

zenith tundra
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u can check tl for comps but pretty much ws became meta after retro as expected. formidable is also good with ws and centaur and azuma and noshiro are good for vg

stoic vector
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did warspite retro come out

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ah ok

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so my hms team is still viable-ish if that's what you're saying

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shoutout to juneau btw

zenith tundra
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defense team are just either namaryuu as before or namagi ws (which is kind of worse)

stoic vector
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namaryuu? i think i know what the other one is nagato\amagi\warspite

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oh wait

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hiryuu and who

zenith tundra
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nagato amagi hiryuu...............

stoic vector
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oh i'm dumb lol

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did hiryuu get retro yet

zenith tundra
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yes

stoic vector
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ah that's why then

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frontlines as per usual don't matter as much as backline right

zenith tundra
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till people get azuma to dev 25+ not really

stoic vector
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so my garbage frontline won't kill my viability right

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ah ok

zenith tundra
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they fucked up 3 servers in jp too not only en

stoic vector
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what frontline would be good if i have basically everyone relevant before formidable event other than pr ships

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i have nagato/amagi/ws leveled but usually i use hms backline

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did hood get powercreeped yet

shy hazel
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hood is no more

stoic vector
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smh

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gib hood retro

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actually gib qe retro ngl

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i heard qe got relevant again

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how

static gull
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actually gib qe retro ngl
@stoic vector is it english?

zenith tundra
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dido buffs her

static gull
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we will be able to retrofit hood or what?MutsukiHyperStare

zenith tundra
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nope lol

stoic vector
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never

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what ssr are they going to retro next

zenith tundra
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"actually give qe retro not gonna lie" that's what he wrote

stoic vector
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i cnat spek en

zenith tundra
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lol

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tbh they could keep they sr retros and put them up their ass. i don't think this game needs more broken stuff like sandy and ws

stoic vector
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wait pr2 is out? yikes too much grinding for me lol

zenith tundra
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since december

stoic vector
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lol i haven't touched this in so long

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wait i thought that was jp

zenith tundra
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the only ships u need for pvp are azuma and fdg anyway the other are irrelevant

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nah pr2 for jp was 11 months ago

stoic vector
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can we just buff worse ships and not make stupid stuff plz

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then again this is mostly a pve game soooo

zenith tundra
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thing is sandy is too broken in pve. like really way too broken compared to other stuff

stoic vector
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^

midnight heron
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just hope they fix the servers before next reset else im gonna UniYan

stoic vector
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unless you're running a farming comp nvm 1 ship > multiple low cost ships

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pew pew stars now y'all ded

zenith tundra
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they changed jp message that they have problems with loads on all servers. emergency maint might be performed lol

stoic vector
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problems with planes killing your backline? slap sandy on your comp

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ez

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that's pve in a nutshell

zenith tundra
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she is a total counter to w13 alone

stoic vector
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there should be harder non-event bosses imo

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like higher worlds should not be auto-able

zenith tundra
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harder like challenge mode AkagiLUL

stoic vector
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^

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about to kill players

zenith tundra
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there is ex but the game is not meant to be hard tbh

static gull
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some kind of group pvp between guilds

zenith tundra
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all we get are new events it seems. they don't even bother rerunning old ones anymore

stoic vector
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also make pvp better

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you shouldn't be able to reset battles imo by exiting

static gull
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i really dont understand why azurlane with pvp system is so vanilla

zenith tundra
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u can't sandbag unless plebs actually are able to move. which means the whole score system needs to be redone

empty grove
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Also can't sandbag unless you can get onto the server

static gull
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i think it's the last problem they should worry about

midnight heron
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if they wanna remove resets they better give both sides equal proc rates BuckySmug

empty grove
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I don't think i've ever seen this before

zenith tundra
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at least u can login in that server

stoic vector
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me and the boys running rng defense teams when they get rid of resets

zenith tundra
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u need noshiro if u want full rng torp memes

stoic vector
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oh no! lucky e just procced again! that's such a shame

empty grove
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Washington works too

static gull
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is there any way to transfer my account between servers ?

empty grove
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Nope

shell heron
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Inb4 emergency maint and we get screwed PortDoll

empty grove
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I logged into R12 on wash

zenith tundra
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now more then the +0 reset i'm worried about the -5 attempts incoming

empty grove
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I got onto sandy too

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Just avrora for me now

zenith tundra
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lol

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i entered sandy 1st try

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tech-support lockdown lmao

empty grove
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Telling you

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Whenever they fuck with time, the game will break

zenith tundra
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LOL

empty grove
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This is like what

sour oasis
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Sandy kicked me off. Can't log into Washington or Avrora. Lexington is somewhat OK.

empty grove
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The 5th or 6th time

shell heron
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Network error UniSip

zenith tundra
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yep

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seems like there are rollbacks too

static gull
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why are you playing on different servers ?

zenith tundra
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people are just trying to see if servers are down or it's their connection i guess

empty grove
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Time to see what degens are in sandy chat

vague token
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oh dear network error

zenith tundra
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avrora completely fucked and other servers aren't much better with rollbacks it seems

empty grove
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Lmao

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Sasuga

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Now we have comms reverted

zenith tundra
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if they fix it it's fine for me

empty grove
midnight heron
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emergency maint lul

zenith tundra
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"Due to the heavy traffic loads, our services are currently unstable." it's like they don't expect people to play

finite valve
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welp there goes 5 tixes

sour oasis
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If they fix it

zenith tundra
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there is still hope

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2:25 left

empty grove
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I have 0 faith

sour oasis
empty grove
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Gonna go play AK

finite valve
midnight heron
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extra compensation for lost tix BuckySmug

zenith tundra
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i remember last time it happened to me in en and there was no compensation at all

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just free merit which is useless

sour oasis
shell heron
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Casuals care for merits

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We want that minute of glory

empty grove
hot creek
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pretty sad if tix get lost. I have such a good run so far.

polar wren
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a lot of trouble lately

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it better rain gems

zenith tundra
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seems like there are problems after maint when a lot of people want to login and play

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last maint happened too

polar wren
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regular maintenance lasted an hour too long

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now emergency maintenance

empty grove
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More like

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They fucked comms

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Corrected them & broke the game again

zenith tundra
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there are problems in jp too and they didn't mess with time this patch

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not as bad as en but still

elder crane
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Eyyyyyyy time to lose even more tixs CleveXD

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How tf did they even screw things up though AkagiLUL

karmic forum
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Welp I guess this is how my PvP season ends GWmemetownOMEGALUL

elder crane
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Such a minor patch

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It's early season

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You can lose like 10 matches and still hit gensui

zenith tundra
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minor patch + changing commissions time

elder crane
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Just EoS rank fucked

jagged steppe
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2HOUR

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UNTIL RESET

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I HAVE 4 TICKET

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SERVER DOWN

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FUCKER?

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THE FUCK MAN

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I SOHULD"VCE

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DO PVP

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rip all bagger

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2 day into new season

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and everyone ticket are ruined except rusher

zenith tundra
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the worse part is that is not 2 days into season and we are getting closer to captain rank. the earlier u lose attempts the easier it is to come back

sour oasis
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Moral of the story: always be rushing

shell heron
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I refuse. We sandbag no matter what LaffeyDrink

midnight heron
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cant rush if i get sandbagged by sandybaggers UniYan

polar wren
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cant rush or sandbag if the goddamn server is down

zenith tundra
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1:45 left. hopes going down by the minute

stable dawn
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inb4 the season just gets delayed by 12 hours

shell heron
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2k merits as compensation smugBucky

polar wren
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i dont even know what to do with all these merrits

shell heron
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join us and become a hoarder. I'm at 880k and Peco is at 1m

zenith tundra
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i'm ripping his merit tho... need purins for next border

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XD

midnight heron
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how do u guys not need purins MutsukiCurse

shell heron
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Good, put him behind me UniSip

polar wren
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i dont like leveling ships i dont need

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if we are being honest

zenith tundra
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u just don't mlb stupid sr so u don't need purins

polar wren
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so i just dont need purins

midnight heron
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i mlb everything SandyCry

zenith tundra
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i can't even lb1 all my lvl 70 ships...

shell heron
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I only MLB ships for event border if they aren't needed

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Last event I pulled enough dupes to MLB most of them so I have many purins

polar wren
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i am always sittin on at least 7 or 8 purins and like 20 purple ones

midnight heron
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my dock space says [NoNo] so i always use them

zenith tundra
polar wren
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i mean at one point i was retiring them

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before i bought more dock space

midnight heron
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rip

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now im interested to know how ur tech points match up

elder crane
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Inb4 they pull a DST switch on us

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And reset is now in 30 min

polar wren
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yea my tech points are ass

zenith tundra
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i need like another 40-50 bulins and they put stupid borders every event now...

polar wren
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it might be a while before i ever unlock any PR2 ships

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probably because i dont LB anything i dont use

midnight heron
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those borders just make it annoying for collectors

zenith tundra
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i'm 6-5-7-3 as fleet tech

midnight heron
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cuz u cant afford to miss >1 ssr

zenith tundra
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i never missed 1 limited ship from when i started (outside of atago that got added later to perma)

elder crane
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8783 for me

midnight heron
elder crane
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Close to another upgrade on all 4

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150, 100, 100, 100 more points

midnight heron
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8783 and u dont mlb useless ships BacheScared

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im pretty sure im around dat number as well

elder crane
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8/7/8/3

zenith tundra
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i just don't level enough ships. just the one i can use for pvp or are good

elder crane
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I'm well over 10k

shell heron
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I think I'm on 6/5/6/4

elder crane
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If we get a new USN event, or just new ships with rerun, should be an easy 9/7/8/3

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And not too much longer to 9/7/9/4

midnight heron
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my highest is a 7 so MikasaShock

elder crane
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RN is going to be ass though without new RN ships

polar wren
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Yea i downloaded the game when it first launched and to be honest didnt really like it. So i played for a bit and quit. then i heard there was a neptunia event so i played that and then quit again. I didnt start back until like all of my friends started playing in October or so...so I am missing a lot of event ships, but i havnt missed a single event ship since i started back. Still my Fleet Tech is ass

shell heron
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RN is already kinda weird. Don't have any other ships there I want to MLB

midnight heron
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im missing like 50 points for next rn upgrade but no new ships

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and no reruns

stable dawn
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FW rerun when?

zenith tundra
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doesn't help that rn doesn't have much good outside of bb and cl and some cv/l

polar wren
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Man i want a Sandy rerun and a Nagato rerun

midnight heron
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u dont need sandy rerun cuz theres many sandbaggers already DunktsukiStare

polar wren
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what?

elder crane
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I'm pretty sure that the fleet tech pt per ship is lower for RN in general

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So it's super annoying

midnight heron
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cuz theres a lot of sand so its sandy, ha... ha......haa....................

elder crane
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For the 120 bonus, each ship gives so little

polar wren
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oh

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sure

stable dawn
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I just want the hpfcr tbh

polar wren
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I just want to retro Sandy

elder crane
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Sakura and Eagle have some high-tech ships that give a good amount per 120

zenith tundra
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royal navy max is 8 vs 9 for uss and ijn

royal oyster
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if the maintenance goes on for another 1:30, is it rip for all the sandbaggers?

midnight heron
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does it like depend on their tier or w/e

elder crane
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Hull class and tier, yes

midnight heron
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cuz ik theres a tier list under fleet tech

zenith tundra
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there are objectively less rn ships then ijn and uss too

elder crane
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Basically
Higher tier = more tech
Larger ship = more tech

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Also a slight higher rarity = more tech

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If you look at the low-tier common/rare DDs, they give like total 12 pts each lol

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For collection, MLB and lv120

midnight heron
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scammed

zenith tundra
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let's see if i'm lucky or not

midnight heron
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even if i disregard pvp my ships r starving rn

zenith tundra
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i always try to keep the food at max when check the ! in dorm

midnight heron
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yea but this maint is equivalent to almost 11hrs for me by now lul food dont last dat long

zenith tundra
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base 40k is 10hr

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with 5 slots

midnight heron
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yea they ded

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permadeath

zenith tundra
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i remember after pr1 grind couldn't even afford to feed girl in dorm because of no oil. those were actual dark times for ship girls

midnight heron
ripe latch
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@zenith tundra on jp see shangri-la on pvp? uss cv meme fleet

zenith tundra
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rare meme fleets sure

ripe latch
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have screen fleets?

zenith tundra
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like once every 100 fleets has shangri-la

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u get to see lusty a lot tho on my server for memes

ripe latch
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see only one meme fleet - shangri bunker and essex

zenith tundra
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who even oaths bunker and shangri-la anyway

ripe latch
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but this corp looks strong

zenith tundra
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outside of losing to any ws hms defense because u lose 1 cv in 15 sec....

ripe latch
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juneau not help?

zenith tundra
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ws hms does like 0 dmg to vg and focuses full main fleet

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ur juneau doesn't even get to die

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before backline die to ws 457 mg + monarch barrage

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that's why i downtiered all akaga comps. they cannot tank focus dmg

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1hr left... this is rip

hot creek
ripe latch
empty grove
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56 mins

stable dawn
shell heron
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Accept your fate as food for rushers PortDoll

empty grove
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I'll still sandbag

ripe latch
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get 5 exer before this maint and get 100+ rushers PortDoll

hot creek
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devs will come in clutch, don't worry. LaffeyCantWakeUp

ripe latch
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dead server

empty grove
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Dead game

zenith tundra
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i sandbag even with 8 attempts missed so it doesn't change much for me

empty grove
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I knew I should have done my attempts tho

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But I logged to refresh

shell heron
zenith tundra
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i did the exact same thing lol

shell heron
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You were given a chance

hot creek
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I did dailies

empty grove
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M8

zenith tundra
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too greedy for bonuses

hot creek
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and even got a bonus

empty grove
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This game pains me

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I wonder if my 30 min research got rolled back too

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Apparently there was issues with that

zenith tundra
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i wish they would explain wtf is going on more then just "servers under heavy load" like people don't play the game....

empty grove
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I doubt they even know what went wrong

hot creek
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I did a 30 min equip one but it gave crap

zenith tundra
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that's even worse tbh

hot creek
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but i started an azuma 2.5 hr project so I hope that doesnt roll back

empty grove
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I had a 30 min gascan one

shell heron
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So they're telling me servers never once held everyone rushing for new event before shouHMM

elder crane
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There's not even major event out lol

empty grove
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There wasn't even that many people on

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I logged into like R4

hot creek
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man, I don't even do the 30 min pr ones anymore. Too expensive and the DR bp rate on them is not so great.

zenith tundra
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there was the issue with ui 2.0 too. but i don't think as many people logged in for sara skin event then back then

empty grove
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I just wanna be done with PR

shell heron
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See you in a year

hot creek
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how many rainbow guns you at BuckyPride

empty grove
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Lol

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Like 22

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Basically Dev 25 on both DR tho

hot creek
zenith tundra
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that's almost 2 months left maybe 1 if u get really lucky

hot creek
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im like total of 60 DR prints behind you.

empty grove
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Shop exchange thing when

zenith tundra
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when it won't matter like for jp...

finite valve
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it would matter if they put stagg in

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like the most useful shit in pr 1

hot creek
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can exchange for seattle guns right

finite valve
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and they just say hell no

zenith tundra
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yeah

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u can get seattle guns

jagged steppe
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is it over

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4 ticket lost

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for me

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is this lost

hot creek
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does en wiki still not have page for proto shop UniYan

zenith tundra
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but by the time i got proto core shop i already had almost 6

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literally any good pr equip but staag and georgia gun u can get....

royal oyster
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I asked yesterday if people did all their attempts before maintenance to avoid these issues and they were like nah

blazing pewter
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@shell heron There is a key difference, thanks to CoVID-19 there are more people stuck at home with nothing else to do

zenith tundra
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this isn't normal tho

empty grove
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That isn't even relevant

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Room pop is indicative of server load

ripe latch
empty grove
hot creek
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thats no proto shop

empty grove
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I haven't seen that shop wiki page either

zenith tundra
empty grove
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Wanna see the normal colour of EN

zenith tundra
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grey?

hot creek
marsh bane
ripe latch
empty grove