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maybe add fdg to googledocs? 
i'll add her by next month. there is no reason to put her in too early since before dev 25 she isn't really better then other stuff
where i can see tier list for pvp?
check pins
nice . ty ๐
fdg?
yea
ideally she wants 457 if u don't use ws, if u use ws triple 381. seattle gun and staag as pretty much anyone and for aux sg and rudder. double sg is viable at dev 30 but she is no longer a tank just pure dmg
@zenith tundra
He just said he prefers IHR+Rudder....

@shell heron
damn it 

damn 
@ripe latch Nawi usually pushes

hello i need help for the betterment at the pvps
ok
If your pve team isn't really optimized I suggest just investing in your pve team and recycle it as a pvp fleet
Until you can start going all out on pvp
im in captain rank
at 2573 and want to advance
4 out of 6 are lvl 120 one of the none lvl 120 is retro warspit
do u need a better team or just want to get more points?
more points
i mean lvl 120 enty and zuikako works well enought
i could prop max out equips for pvp tho
Just optimize optimal pve gear and you're mostly fine
ok thank you
then u always need to attack higher ranked opponents because attacking lower ranked ones gives less points then base. leftmost is almost guaranteed higher rank unless u top 100
Leaving battle doesn't count as a lost if you didn't know already btw
meta speaking belfast is ok but eugen not really. levels are more important tho
eugen is my heighest at 116 the rest are pretty high tho
laffy at 120
is saint louis good only lv 81 rn
lv 3 fate sim
u can check tier list in pins. it has good ships for both backlines and vg to use and comps. saint louis is ok but she really needs 110+ for evasion
ok i have the sheet open thank you guys tho
well garbage or not garbage if she is higher level u still use her
oh shit. I think I may have forgotten to buy the furniture.
just make sure to buy extra jail cell bars 
Yeah, levels are a huge deal in PvP
Being down just 5 levels average on team can turn a 90% winning matchup into a coinflip


what ship is KFC?
right now I deranked so much because i didnt have time at all
dont troll plz
@tough dirge
troll or not that pic has nothing to do with pvp tbh



i haven't touched al at all so idk what is happening
Apparently there was a server bug that randomly rolled back ppl's progress
oh yeah 200 now
dunno about this rollback stuff tho
cant rollback anything when im not doing anything
..
mmmm
yeah the only things i did after patch are comms research pvp and got ryuujou skin
can the gems be rolled back too? 


Rollback to the start of Russian event. So I can redo my pulls. 
btw just wondering do u guys recommend using torp bulge on juneau if noshiro is present
my x3 rainbow gun pulls were roll backed, pls compensate 
I do for lead Jun
Means even vs full torpmeme when she decides to munch on every single torpedo, she won't sink
It's really nice to shield for my VH Azuma
I lead junie as well so its nice. She won't sink or get chunked hard on the first torp wave
ic
Why do I keep finding you
turns out that sandbaggers end up with similar scores at similar times 
I don't see famine yet
he'll show up in the next minute
wait, I don't see famine. did he finally get banned for botting events 
Maybe Famine missed a few exercises this season
I can't believe I missed first week of PvP. I'm too far back to even be ๐
Still at 0 pts?
About 1850. Stuck in the 1000's. (Not terrible, but unable to AotN unless everyone stops)
famine was still 7 points up of me. even one lost match shouldn't drop him off the top 100 ranks
I'm wondering what would happen if you stayed at 0 points an entire season, and then attacked a very high ranked player and ended the match right after the season reset.
Would you start the next season with however many points that match gave you?
You need to be lucky enough to start with one of us on your first list
It happens from time to time
The bigger problem is that you're throwing all that exp away
I use 120 ships so I don't really get exp
it's more so for the merits.
Did you move again at the end? I refreshed because I'm not waiting til 2AM for you to move
east coast shouldn't be bad for reset times
its pretty bad. 3am 3pm 9pm
but I guess some other places have it worse
best place is Hawaii 
3 3 9
whats so bad about that 
just skip the 3am one
and naga isnt cute
nato is

@shell heron I slept on 4 matches

Like 3 days ago
Tried to only sleep for 2 hours, should have just done matches before
Pretty sure kamui dropped to so look at Kirie
Wouldn't be a PvP season for me without missing at least 5 matches 
He should be up highest
If I am tired, prob won't wake up to sandbag. Eat that +0 instead
and dunno. I recognize Galafion or however it's spelled on the list as well
I forgot is Kirie one of us?
don't u hate it when u think no one on ur list is going to climb and u refresh, half an hour later u check and one of those is in the top 10 and would've given u +2 extra points 
@split socket you just not lucky then 

why would it?
Why did comms start an hour later but persist with the hour prior timer & the actual nightly small/med is 1 hour more than it should be

Answer?
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did they change night commission time? there was a change in jp so they started 1 hr earlier maybe they fucked up something
Can you show your night comms?
Unless you took all 4
Cause it's actually funny to me
i'm on jp i have to wait another 5hrs lol
- Moved forward the start time of night commissions by 1 hour, from 22:00 to 21:00 JST.
New night commission time limit is 21:00 - 3:00 JST.
this is jp patchnotes
does the timing match at all in en time?
im pretty sure i saw a patch note saying they moved nightlies
Pay attention to level & timer
i forget which way though
They moved the time they started
Wait it gives more coins
Not the time limit of the commission
Not complaining
patch notes said 1h earlier, but instead they pushed it 1h later lol
#bug-reports talk about that and it seems a bug
also that medium merchant lol
how much gold was it previously?
yeah i guess the rewards arent fixed but are actually scaled based on the time
I don't pay attention to gold since it's always min anyway
Scaling makes sense since
That's large
So damn weird
yeah so if you just add 2 to it it scales to Large Mission
xD
50 minimum and 100 max per hour or so
Idek wtf is going on anymore
in that case it's just a win imo
Wonder if the chance of a book/cube changes with it tho
maybe more books / cubes ?

probably not tho :p
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it's not the 1st time they fucked up
Wont be the last either
The instant I saw "Time from 10pm - 9pm", I immediately thought "Yeah guess i'll sleep 8 hours tonight"
Legit every time they fuck with a timer somewhere, it borks the entire game
wtf is 10pm-9pm??? 23hr window lol
he meant moving timer from 10pm to 9pm (start time)
oh
also the code for commissions are probably really fucked up. Since the reason they don't implement individual timezones are not because they don't want to, but because it's "technically impossible".
resets would be all over the place with individual timezones
reset mechanics wouldnt make sense with timezone yeah
probably won't work with pvp reset timer, but should be fine for things like night comms
what i think they should've done was having some of en servers on eu timezones instead of all na
theres no reason whatsoever why that should be hardcoded to a specific time
that as well
iirc al was only available to na play store at launch then they added for the rest. new servers after that should've been different timezone since they allowed more people to play it that weren't from na
damn, guess im just shit at this game.
I wonder if this shows after a pvp loss as well. its pretty funny tho ngl.
I was doing sub missions and forgot backlines get reamed by mob subs
i'll try it once i try to get top 50. i'm 8 behind anyway


adds lvl 1 juneau and win rate decreases further
Hm so yeah, my monarch is dev 30 now
Mon+warkai+hiryuu or mon+hiryuu+formi for pvp defense
Mon, WarKai, Centaur/Formi
would definitely not use 2 cv on defense. hiryuu is still somehow good on defense
mm ok, so formi is out and monarch is gonna take the place of her
Oh defense 
if u have amagi u can try ws monarch amagi defense or qe instead of hiryuu.
u should swap shell for ihr at least for defense purposes
I'd very much take 2 SG on Monarch , or even SG+IHR
Her hit stat iirc is nothing special, and obviously super low luck
I don't think i have ihr?
rudder
And having more eva leverages her survivability better
also make sure ws and monarch focus target for defense. would setup with ws mid monarch top hiryuu bot
hot take, Doy > Monarch
Doy not so great by herself but on a WS team she's better than Monarch
the only way u can put pressure on defense is to try and focus 1 target down early
Hm ok
unless u want a stalling team then u need completely different ships
yes
Wish I had Dido, she wouldve been perfect for this comp.
Sheffield's still pretty legit tho
did u not level her up or u didn't get dido?
Alas, the comp is great if shells hit. But it suffers all the same problems BB comps have thanks to Amagi's dreaded existence.
Didn't get her
but I probably wouldve been too lazy level her to 120 . At least thats what I tell myself 
last event couldn't level shit due to sirens being too strong in d3
yeah i tried leveling mogami and gave up lol
just swapped to phoenix 
but hey at least I got some Seattle unlocking xp
i finished portland lvl 120 since i used sara as backline. taihou was too low level to handle d3
i wonder why 381mm/406 skc BiS on nagato and suruga? their barrage is timed not depend on salvo right?
not like hood or monarch
twin 381 and twin 406 are not bis for suruga
nagato barrage tho is gun based not timed
oh what, i have misconception here 
what is the most optimal gun suruga then beside twin457 @zenith tundra
triple 381 or mk6
oh well sorry for my phrasing before, 381mm i mention mean triple381/monarch gun not hood gun 
triple 381 is good on her due to fp boost for barrage and faster timing then mk6
is her barrage affected by fp?
bb barrages are affected by fp
fuck it, kiro use 406skc on her so i though it her BiS 
i can see someone using that it's just not better unless u want specific timings
ehh, i use her with warkai and centaur, soo idk i think timing is not that urgent for me maybe 
u generally don't want bb to shoot at the same time because if the target dies it can lead to 1-2 salvos hitting open water
if a ship with spesific buff skill dies (like QE, dido, etc.), does the buff effect will vanish in battle?
buffs like qe and nagato usually don't disappear. the ones that do say "while alive"
ohh okay thx zack 
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554037323239522313/688102164475936790/image0.png
How did someone get this far?
spamming cubes
that the best way to get blueprints?
Priority ships and Research
๐น PR ships requirements and detailed equipment guide by pootatoast#1337
๐น Which PR ships to prioritize by Kawaii Five-O#2305
๐น PR1 and PR2 "what to equip" and general equipment guide by Enbayft#2527
๐น Short and detailed research tier list by cyberFluff#9161
use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs
u can check the tier list
damn game is so bloody full of shit sometimes
use 3 he guns on backline: backline keeps getting burned
change 1 gun to ap gun: suddenly they stop getting burns
definitely not some bs rng going on
just usual bb stuff

i cant decide if i wanna try a few ideas out in pvp or just go cookie cutter/standard ships ๐ค
why bother with meta, it's so boring xD
yea thats another good point

teabagging
meta is just as boring as any other comp unless u like resetting in which case non meta comps are way more fun
theres a certain satisfaction in beating meta comps with non-meta comps.
might be but if u have to reset i don't think it's actually fun
i like testing but having to reset when i just want to do my attempts just pisses me off
Nowadays I just come into game and pvp
Don't really sandbag much too so I usually just do my matches 1 hour before +5 tix so I won't forget later
And resetting gets p fun since I get to theory craft and make some new meme fleets
Literally the only thing keeping me alive in this game
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more or less. i'm doing ok since i'm almost done with pr1 fate 5 and that is keeping me interested
is fun if meme fleet win against meta n still have 40% HP 
what a dumb idea
ppl should realize that with enuf reset u can win any fight
with a half assed fleet
i'm pretty sure that is what most people do
ofc not the ones that are usually in this chat
And here I am, only having to reset like 2-3 times per season :v
And it's not merely just running meta fleets. You can just run PvP-worthy girls and do hybrids that do the job just as well.

ncc 1701 

is it bug? I rush and got 11 4 times in a row
u lucky 11 x 4 
oh I just realize if I run into rank 1 I get 11 instead of 10
u are lucky then 
@zenith tundra full collection accnt
wonder how much i can "rent" this stuff for

im tired of al
just take a brake since there is nothing new going on for a while
even if u don't do commissions research dailies u don't lose that much
Do DM if you manage to 'rent'
jean bart is actually fun to use in pvp, the feeling when enemy vanguard get one-shot by her is so damn satisfying 

I never seen my vg get 1-shotted. Chunked hard and that's already unlucky
Hey, i've got a few questions. What are some of the best torpmeme fleets, and are they better with or without Aurora?
ibuki / yuki / juneau or noshiro
Noshiro has edged out Aurora in torpmemes for the most part now
Juneau Ibuki Noshiro is sorta legit
Noshiro Ibuki Ykkz is standard torpmemes
Noshiro Aurora Ibuki you can try for maximum torpmemes, but idk about it, at least better than noshiro aya Ibuki probably
And eventually Noshiro Ibuki Azuma also exists
Once, just once... torp meme missed my vg and 1hko two of my back fleet ships. That was ridiculous and lucky I noticed it to restart
That sounds weird. I think you need to be really unlucky if your ships are leveled
It was a one time fluke stupid unlucky happening.
I was just floored Nagato and Amagi immediately died.
or
/
/

Ayaya just launches torp and die, that's all her role
i would pick yuki over aya. she does other stuff as well and she can stall opponent vg if things go bad
for def, scariest is still aurora+ibuki+jint/noshi/aya
for atk, you dont use torp memes period

for atk, use whatever to win
KMS mama vs IJN loli 
Hmmm this looks like my worse season yet without dropped matches
2583 is my current max score
Why do people use juneau so much?
Heals
Does she heal during the battle or after sinking?
Like, if she heals after sinking why not just use another weak ship to carry the pearl?
You can calc the amount of HP with the above formula and notice that the max HP of ships are greatly inscresed
Hey wait a minute that HP formula seems a little off

voutside of azuma most of ur damage comes from backlines so u want to keep them alive as long as possible. recovering hp on backlines becomes more important then whatever most vg ships can do
i tested that hp formula myself and it's correct
Oh ok I derped a little there
i thought he meant the one in the pins
Normally that is what you should do. Put pearl on another VG
But when your other options is now undying Nanoda or extra tanky Noshiro. Might as well keep it on Juneau
azuma also forces it on juneau
my 117 noshiro isnt tanky 
i generally find noshiro benefits a lot from rudder
i haven't seen 1 noshiro on defense in jp that was actually as tanky as yuki or azuma
xD
i just use pearl for now cuz i generally find my backline dont even take dat much dmg when juneau dies so if i stack pearl with her lots of heal gets wasted
enjoy ur al break
wdym. i'm just playing it for now
i hope u come back one day
Either die a degen or become a loser 



will you be feeding us with that account 
i won't be feeding any sandy player for sure
i plan on sandbagging but i already struggle not losing attempts on my jp one so who knows



Hi shikikans. I have a question, what can be used in main fleet better than warspite+foxes if i don't have amagi and nagato?
HMS is pretty viable
Not sure if you have Formidable or Centaur, but plane crashing damage is pretty scary
There's also a pinned list of possible fleets you can run
not gonna call it a tier list 
i wonder how good warspite foxes is
offense, prob works
defense. I can safely afk it
tbh I haven't ran foxes in forever
i heard that hiryuu + foxes are good, but not sure that it worth wasting time. I d better wait for rerun event.
I checked pinned list and... i did know that fomidable is so good in pvp. I have seen fomidable+centaur fleet only once
Foxes+Warkai I've heard is nice for offense, yeah
my inconsistent fleet waifus for pvp
Formidable+Centaur is much better on offense than defense mostly due to plane travel distances
Also cause it's a consistent team (RNG teams do better on defense since offense is expected to win)
I really need my FdG to reach Dev20... At Dev 19 atm, need a few more blueprints... 

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Invest the 
whats the pvp tierlist?
is in the pins
what do you think? is saint louis better to be the tank or belfast?
belfast is generally better but against aurora saint louis is much better
sanrui is pretty much a bait 
personally im not even sold on saint louis vs aurora
because ijn has so much splash that it isnt like she helps juneau and ykkz live
while belfast at least can tie on the hit rate debuff vs eva rate debuff
for the whole vanguard
u mean against torpedo memes?
i mean against anything
torpedos are worse of course, but hiryuu still hits everywhere
and nagato hits everywhere
unless the ai goes perfectly forward
entire vanguard is gonna be getting hit
against hiryuu tho belfast does nothing
and she also does nothing against amagi barrages
saint louis could protect herself against aurora debuff better in those 2 cases
and so goes for any non akaga cv comps using aurora
Sanrui DpS also chews up Aurora
Also her limited time on eva buff matters less, since Aurora accelerates fights
Tbh on offense, using sanrui, I didn't really notice my team doing all that better vs Aurora
On offense using Aurora though, enemy sanrui was pretty noticable in how much longer she survived than most, although winrate didn't really feel all that different in the end either
dps, more like always the wrong angle
xD
but belfast's main perk is having 100% chance to help vg sponge the first nagato barrage
which works much better compared to praying saint louis runs head on into it so she tanks every projectile
i mean, most people receive lots of nagato barrages xD
because cvl coded as light
pve mobs are more likely to be generic based on class than who they actually are
why are they medium as ships then

that's exactly what i mean... makes no sense
actually spaghetti code might be al consistency
actually is it consistent in pve, where else do we get cvl bosses
i dont actually know
is there a shouhou boss somewhere?
there might be around w2-3
4-3 ryuujou
big rip
wrong image
i wonder if it can be reported as a bug sine usually enemy characters have same armor as the ship version
i don't see why ryuujou would be different
actually i think it is because ryuujou enemy was before ryuujou ship was released and was set to be light armor at that time and when the ship version came out they released her as medium armor but didn't change the enemy version armor
That sounds more like oversight than bug imo 
technically is still a bug because the armor don't match
i'll try and make a bug report for that and see what happens
Damn this season sucks, 88 is where I stand now assuming I don't get or lose anymore points
how do u tell what armor enemies use in pve? 
so just dmg numbers, gotcha
when georgia barrage does grey dmg is not medium
never paid attention to that, the more u know o,o
i cant remember if the bcs are medium or heavy
bcs are medium
difference between bc and bb is literally their armor iirc
no i mean in pve
our ryuujou has medium armor like all other cvls
pve ryuujou is light
that's.....ask the dev
bc are medium in pve
ate +8 and +9 on the way... lets see how long I can keep this spot :x
it showed him as 13
well about 1 hr before season-reset
I missed my opportunity going 90+ by refreshing away 2 person that would've given me +2, also refreshed myself from +9 into +8 
refreshed from a +9 into a +8
and that was my last refresh 
and game gave me another +8 after that match

The age of the old gods is over
its ok, i have been allocating my luck towards research anyways 
https://puu.sh/Fl74p/306c20d47c.png I don't even get temporary r1 
and only two points above sagg
how did this happen to me
-4 in 2 attempts that's how
holykov will probably take nr 1 I think
probably. kingston has a chance too.
but im rooting for my sheep boi furashu to avenge me ๐
top 10 for sure cay
https://puu.sh/Fl7iM/5e0e772c48.png lmao. ๐ pulled through
they all did
The only true god of pvp is the god of sleep
dayum

sumire has been playing forever tho
he was three points below holykov before the reset and somehow ended up three points above 
rip holykov. unlucky
We still have some old players here but I see some new ones
probably lucked out and got someone in top 3 climbing ๐ฎ
I did mine way too early, I got top 3 on my list twice but that wasn't even enough for +11
although no 2600+ this time 
good start
Nah man, i got -11 pts.
+33
2588 + 11 = 2599, im the true r1 here 
oya zack
tell me if got monthly pack
ill buy that at least
for the inevitable rings


gratz on rank 2 @cerulean estuary
@zenith tundra im on 2nd place though , gaf manage to score / finish first 
ok why did i remember it bad... sorry
no problem here , im still balancing sleep and sandbagging
oh scores were that low
if i didnt oversleep zack wouldve gotten at least r3
if u din get the time wrong too
lol
i would've got fucked by bad rng. wasted 5 refreshes at r 40s and no one above me....
where you raise affection for Azuma and FdG?
u should raise that when u level them
ive been mostly using em in pvp sandbag, dorm and commission, so i wonder how to efficiently grind affection to 200
im at 123 affection for FdG, that oil cost....
if u want to be effcient something like w6-7 where u can use a lb0 ship in back/front for 1:1
ok
are they strictly pvp ships?
low cost ships
if u want to be fast u can also do 1-1 with the ambush spot but u get literally 0 out of that, it just becomes a waste of oil
yea, was hoping to bring em in like world 12 and grind their affection to 200
that they could do the work of 1 1/2 ships
fdg is usable and can carry in w11 for sure
for azuma might be harder to get mvp in higher worlds ar low dev levels
that's kind of low for stealing mvp over backlines
yea, so i still at 90 affection for her now
still no real idea how to get her affection to 200 for pvp
my dev 19 lvl 115 azuma sometimes loses mvp over lvl 85 langley in sp3
do you use cubes for research a lot? seems like a lot have PR2 ships at high dev lvl now
i pick up those gold research for FdG or Azuma when i see em, want to get them ready for pvp asap
on my jp account i used cubes in the last 2 months before finishing dev30 but only because i was sitting on 400+ consistently
it speeds up quite a bit but i would never do it if i didn't have enough cubes to pull events
yea, i am worried i get bad rng somewhere
i think i spend like 400 cubes on Bismarck, got like 11x Warspite
last event was 320 cubes for rossiya so i'm pretty sure never gonna go under 300 for research ever
so i ve been hoarding cubes
oof
ah also, after i got Bismarck, i was so dry on cubes that i had to few pulls to get Baltimore
and right after that, i think thats when you could pull for Essex and Taihou
so im hoarding cubes a lot
en schedule sucks. i feel like jp is a lot more relaxed compared to en
Aren't JP players bored out of their minds waiting for content?
sometimes tho it gets really boring like before north event there were 3 weeks without nothing so it kind of sucked too
i was pretty content with the two large events back-to-back
ah so when you expect to have FdG and Azuma being used more in pvp teams?
it gets boring but i don't think i could play enough to farm 2 event back to back. like i farmed 80k in north event and now barely managed to get to 10k for ryuujou
still havent seem them yet in a serious team
Probably will be a lot more widespread in 3 months or so
can we compete without our own?
The rushers will have them to dev 30 and most other people will have them to 25 or something
dev 15 azuma is passable on offense. dev 20 she is best vg for nagato teams. dev 25 she is good even on defense and dev 30 she can carry pretty much
i would say another 1-2 months till people get her to dev 20/25 and she should spread a lot
like if i bring
Warspite kai, Formidable, Centaur, Yukikaze, Saintlouis/Noshiro and Juneau,
can that compete vs like
Nagato Amagi, FdG, Juneau, Azuma Yukikaze?
fdg is another story. even in top teams she is not really better then other stuff even at dev 25
and dev30?
dev 30 she is good. amazing tank but she kind of struggles if she has to carry
ok, so the problem gonna be Azuma
She only gets her last MGM at dev30 which is a big deal
i lost using wfc against a namagi fdg last season
any good counter teams for it? maybe like a torp comp?
dunno if i screwed up something but it was a loss
how does FdG barrage fare against vanguards?
also, if its Namagi, i guess Nagato got her Big 7 off a few times
it does some dmg but not much. her barrage is manly to set fires on opponents backlines very early
imo best team with maxed fdg and azuma is ws amagi fdg azuma yukikaze juneau. when i used that no team on defense managed to kill 2 of my backlines unless i mispositioned amagi
amagi is there for the defensive buffs
i see
the pr rainbow one
i see
how far you with that gun ?
that gonna be her best gun in pvp?
im at 18/50
in jp i got 1 and another 8/50 on my 2nd that will never happen
definitely ws is the best 457 user in the game
since her barrage forces shoots on backlines
it's more consistent then fdg using it since sometimes u cannot kill vg fast enough before even her 2nd cd
u have to use triple 381 pretty much
any twin gun would end up overlapping too much with twin 381 on amagi and 457
triple 381 better than the good 'ol 406 mk6?
her barrage does actual dmg and it's better for the fire
alright
also her skill changes her reload time
so i guess that gun should give no overlaps with Amagi and Warkai?
it still does a little bit but there are no other options
i really haven't tried anything special against azuma since i always use yukikaze juneau azuma myself and most of the time u just easily win. sometimes u just get stalled to almost infinity tho
should i even attack this or wait next reset. not gonna play much next reset tho due to sleep
its good to eat now right?
it would be an ok bonus
but i'll wait for end of next reset to attack since i'm at 1/10
maybe someone will rush more then that
i used most of my attempts at the start of the season because next reset i will wake up by the end of it
do you always start with 1 good to eat with each reset?
u usually have to wait for people to rush after reset
start of season is easier to get rushers in list
yea but, if i hold 10, im usually too low rank to even get to the rushers
that's true but u also get more bonuses if u find someone that uses all 10
plus eventually ur bonuses will catch up with most rushers till u end up ahead even at 10/10
i try to spread them out a bit
so right after reset, i should wait a bit for them to rush?
it's not necessarily about spreading them out then waiting for people in ur list to use attempts
i usually dont feel comfortable to keep 10, wanting to use 5 of em before the next one
i usually login 1 min after start of season reset and check my pvp list. there usually is a guy there that is rushing and i wait for him to use all 5 attempts to attack
what if you dont get a rusher in those 4?
if u login 1 min in most rusher only had time for 1 attempt. for as long as i tried this strat it always worked
alright
if u check list later like 1hr after reset u will get people in list that like u didn't move at all and are close to ur rank all at 0 pts
at that point u just wait for someone to move which might not even happen if all the people in ur list do not play pvp or aren't playing al
Anyway zack, aint FDG kinda want shelling dmg tho on her part? Since she aint only a barrager too smhw. So perhaps good ol mk6?
Also if no 2 HPFCR like all JP EN do currently where to place it anyway? FDG/Wakai/Magi?
Usually we'd like to place it on Wakai in Wakai based strat for early kill but Magi and FDG kinda wants it too . . .
FdG barrage isn't tied to main guns
I forgot to check the levels of the people on my list
no way they're gonna move
also 146 start
time to get screwed by dead resets from now on

149 start for me. somehow saved the season by waking up without alarm 5min before reset lol
while i do agree that fdg shelling is top tier is still is shelling and it still sucks in pvp without it being aimed at backlines. if opponent vg doesn't die for 1min shelling can hit only water.
ws will always take hsfcr with 457.
i love it when i catch shells and enemy vg doesnt
sometimes i feel like the longer defense distance makes you more likely to catch
weird i saw plenty of people doing pvp attempts in my list
Hello, I was directed here from the help chat because i had pvp questions. So I am playing, and so far since the reset i am 15-0, and that put me 10 points behind the leader. I always make sure to play against someone of higher rank than me so i dont get a penalty for playing a lower rank, and everyone should have had the same amount of plays at this point, so I dont understand how people had the opportunity to have more points. I am pretty new to pvp and I dont really understand the scoring system.
there is a bonus point system based of the difference in score and rank between u and the opponent u attack. the higher the difference in score and rank the more bonus points u get
try to do what i did zack
use auto launch to auto open azurlane app
then put alarm

you gotta root your device tho
might do that but it won't work if i'm too sleepy
we call it sandbagging
So I need to find the largest spread between me and my opponent? Does this mean i need to wait a while in between battles to let myself fall in ranking for i go?
its basically camping and waiting for others to move
theres the element of rng but well
if u know what u doing it can be
equalized
yes u want to waif for opponents in ur list to use their attempts before attacking them
i see.
So if you get to the point where your options are to do a battle you cant win or battle with someone of lower rank, what is the better choice
refresh?
right, so 2 questions. Is there a penalty for refreshing? and what if you are out of refreshes?
no penalty u are just limited to 5 refreshes per day
if you've already used up all your opponent refreshes then definitely battle someone you can beat even if they're lower ranked
no, there is no penalty, and well when you out of refresh, u cant refresh 
no i know that i mean, if you are out, then which is the better option
but that makes sense
what is the penalty for battling a lower ranked opponent, how does it work?
but refreshing opponent after too much time passed from when u last attack u might just refresh into a list full of people that already used all their attempts and won't move anymore
beat someone rank lower than you still much better than missing ur attempt
fighting lower rank opponents just gives less points then base amount. is like a negative bonus
I see
if ur enemy -35 point lower than you, you get -1 point, like that
not sure about the point amount for -1 but the 35 point difference applies only to captain + rank so when ur score is over 1050
I have looked around and stuff, but cant find one. is there like a PvP guide online anywhere?
i found a PvP meta list, but thats about it
what type of guide u mean?
i mean that just explains all this type of thing
the questions ive asked and anything else i might need to know that i dont know to ask
don't think anyone made a sandbagging guide yet
not sure about the point amount for -1 but the 35 point difference applies only to captain + rank so when ur score is over 1050
how about rank below captain then? 
it's complicated to find out for ranks below captain because is hard to find opponents u know the actual score of
but is generally less points needed for bonuses
like at 0 points is when u get bonuses more easily while after 1050 is the hardest
some people wanted to do one myself included but if it didn't happen 1 year ago i don't think it will happen now
everything you need can be found on the wiki https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Pvp
Exercises, sometimes called Operations, Mock Battles or PvP Battles, are the portion of the game where the player's fleet is pitted against a fleet constructed by another player, with the goal to accumulate Merit and progress in Rank. Note that the attacking fleet will get a ...
which is why i never really ended up making a guide
I read that tho, and it didnt answer any of the questions i asked here
thats why i came and asked
it does mention camping/sandbagging for bonus points but I guess the explanation is a little convoluted
I was lookin at the tier list, and its pretty much FILLED with event ships that i cant get
there is not a single team comp on the list that i looked at that i can actually create
welcome to azur lane
that's devs fault for making most good ships event locked
just use enterprise and restart
right now i am using Warspite/Hood/Sara
https://puu.sh/FlqGY/982fc5e1f9.png from the wiki.
hiryuu is also good in pvp without being event locked
Yea i saw that. I am working on leveling her now
but you know its a slow go once you hit 100
maybe I could write a quick/abridged guide
I also am trying to level Juneau, as i can see that the rule is just dont pvp without her
she is in like 95% of the team comps on this list
she is very important due to her heal and backlines being much better for dmg then vg
its very much seems liek a stall game
like the entire thing im doing is just stalling until Warspite can put it away
matches are often determined on whether who's juneau sinks in the most timeliest manner.
and sometimes you get unlucky with your own juneau dying too quick
So is it okay to run Juneau if she is slightly underleveled since her entire purpose is to die
obviously if you put her in too low of level she will die to soon
slightly underleveled yes, anything under 105-110 is not worth tho
well thats about what i had in mind
mine is not quite there yet
but i was thinkin between 105 and 110
i dont have a full team of 120 yet, but my back line is real close.
levels help a lot making fights easier
Warspite is 120 and Hood is 119 but Sara is only 114
34 n the rest is 25 bad start 
damit rng give me bad list
for me is going great... don't see why people complain about dead lists
not even 110 at frst start 
i just going rush then off enjoy the food 
I always seem to have better luck with my next 5 rather than my first 5
my luck gone coz got 2ssr in 10roll
my luck still cd 
Ahh well the fooken well known problem of FDG needs a glasses again keks
So barrage focusing eh
Mongun then
jp news
In the next update, Fast Forward mode will be added to Chapter 1-12 normal mode stages, which disables airstrikes and ambushes and allows you to skip the pre-battle confirmation screen.
As reminder, Fast Forward mode is unlocked by obtaining 3 stars and reaching Safe danger level on the stage.
Its a really good QoL change
people who farm w13 need to suffer lol
what is fleet lock
if its the same "fleet lock" im familiar with as KC then im excited
the thing u activate in event maps that lets u skip screen before battle that shows formation
didn't u use it in event maps or story hm maps?
fleet lock was in last event for sure. i think it was implemented like a while ago
the button under the sub pannel
don't have hm attempts on en but it's called fleet lock
in jp was implemented at the beginning of february so i would guess was same for en
it already implement but people dont clear and threat0
hm w9 has been up for forever tho. i would expect people to have at least 1-2 maps at safe level
The only two I'll ever need are 7-2 and 12-4
i farm 9-4 more then anything else. it's an easy 1:1 for ships around lvl 100
don't want to bother with 12-4 because i don't care about leveling too many ships at once and also waste oil on AA specific ships
1:1 is too slow for me now
I usually do 1:3 at 12-4 with random assortments of ships and just retreat when things are looking bad
if i want to level up dido and qe not gonna go to w12 and be forced to waste oil on an ar ship or some other cv just for aa
Never do the boss except for this event
i mean skip tickets arent a terrible idea, other gachas do them
if you want just the material rewards/drops
outside of general aux plates i don't see why u would farm anything past a certain point
u just do maps for xp
I just opened 154 gold Eagle tech packs and 2 rainbow ones and not a single Hellcat dropped.
Guess I'll just have to live with the four I currently have. Wish I coulda just had one more though.
yo
Anyone know whats the next best fighter for w13?
its just gold hellcat, gold seafang, and the purple corsair
vf-17 should be 2nd in AA of the 2x500lb bombs ones
VF-17's own AA ability is actually kinda poor, more like seafang levels, but the +10% AA on launch skill is quite nice for some fleets
Next best after Me155 and Hellcat should be the seafury, which arguably might be even as good as Hellcat on plane AA
i keep getting people who have actual teams that push for some reason
Then probably seafang is still better than reppu, though idk at that point
The burst is higher though, which is better for killing planes and when the screen isn't full of them
if only fulmar was a fighter
Ofc ch13 the screen will be
F4U AA guns are very mediocre
Idk if even better than seafang/reppu
im sorting by aa dps and this table is a meme lol
why tf wiki has vf-17 as better aa dps the sea fury?


















