pvp

[tranquil badge]

nah your issue isnt the minmaxing, its just you're missing/skipping/overlapping tickets

[sharp wing]

I only sandbag a bit cause I usually miss tickets and need bonus for AoTN

This way I get Aotn even w/ -13 tickets

[elder crane]

I missed 6 this season again

And also missed every rush, mostly due to Arknights
No temp rank 1 for me this season

[sharp wing]

xD

[elder crane]

This is the first season I've dropped getting a temp rank 1 in like forever

[sharp wing]

Do u top up sanity with orig?

[elder crane]

No
But I have an alt
Also we've been getting that 200 a day

[sharp wing]

yeah. but that's

[elder crane]

My alt is at over 2k stored sanity

[sharp wing]

set macro and forget it for 30 mins

lmao

2k

[elder crane]

Did you know

Sanity potions can't be used if more than 1k stored sanity?

[sharp wing]

lol

I would never know

obviously

[elder crane]

I have two expiring today on alt

So, lol

[sharp wing]

why u even alt

[vague token]

muh clues

[elder crane]

Feed clues

[sharp wing]

heh

[vague token]

too much effort for me

[sharp wing]

ppl send me enough clues

[vague token]

isnt your friend list full

xD

[sharp wing]

some ppl even dm me on discord

[elder crane]

I don't get enough to run exchange 24/7 and it irks me

[sharp wing]

24/7

[elder crane]

Well, basically 1 clue exchange a day

Gotta make up for low dorm coin from 252

[sharp wing]

storage has 10 limit so

[elder crane]

Not for friend clue though

Also giving away all clues is more coins

As long as enough to keep exchanges running

Basically all my clues give 40 coins, so like 160 a day
+210 per day from own exchange
+300 per day from friend exchange
+50 from recieving clues
+~180 from dorm+friend operator usage
Can almost clean out shop every day

Can pretty much clean out ignoring furn parts and expedited plans

[ionic magnet]

whats annoying is you cant refresh clue party even if you have all clues ready for next round

now im 12 hrs behind

its never truly 24/7

[shy hazel]

call mods here

time to ban hooloo

[hot creek]

I still hold on to the theory that yukikaze swing skin gives boost to her evasion and HP

[vague token]

that's ok, l2d will take it away

[shy hazel]

phoenix

memer i accept

but

what do we cal it about

feat earthners i dont

conspiracy theory

[hot creek]

still some swing set yukikazes lurking out there

[bleak osprey]

[hot creek]

I just had to face one just now

[shy hazel]

hy a mod

im using swing set ykkz

cos i dont buy 2 skins for every ship

1 is enuf

the thing is

ppl who spend on shipskins

most probably buy rings too

so most swing ykkz are prolly fully oathed 200 points one

so it feels harder to kill

probably

only god knows

[shell heron]

I bought all Eldridge's skins

In hopes that it would please her and not stall me again

[shy hazel]

thats like the old japanese

who worships evil god so they wont be touched again

[shell heron]

look at this evil

[shy hazel]

i mean

u got stalled that time cos well

lets say its u fault for assuming its 1 min every battle

[sharp wing]

Eldridge is devil incarnate

[shell heron]

that time I gave each match 1:30 to account for loading time and reward screen. but 2:30 match was a little too much

[hot creek]

2583 damn my score is shit, yeah i rushed early and season was pretty dead but I did not expect it to be that bad lol.

[shell heron]

refused to believe she can proc rainbow 3 times back to back

[hot creek]

this is literally worse than some seasons where I was down a tick

[sharp wing]

how she could live that long lmao

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

she has 10 sec windows between procs min

[shy hazel]

it lived to deny cay top 1

all hail electric loli

[shell heron]

dunno, just so happens the downtime is when my main fleet was on cd

[hot creek]

if you use CV comps that have 20s timing on their attacks it can be a problem

[shy hazel]

i dont remember

if we alrdy had nagato when that happened

iirc

it was still wasd era

i think

[shell heron]

but all I remember was it would have been the one season r1 was mines

but she hurt that season and the next

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

too strong she screwed u until next season

[shell heron]

but I wonder if I can hit AotN this season

90 seems to be my max

+2/-1

[shy hazel]

i lost rounds due to the connection bug awhile ago

so stopped pvp for awhile

[shell heron]

famine was up 4 from me with -1 tix

I ate too many dead resets early on

[shy hazel]

puricone anniversary anyways

better game

[shell heron]

too many games out at this time.

[sharp wing]

Need more games w/ EN tho

[shell heron]

arknights and for me symphogear

[ionic magnet]

guess i can start new season

[shy hazel]

ez hooloo

just get fired

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

go full neet

[ionic magnet]

cant

[shell heron]

then sandbag all you want

[ionic magnet]

need to feed waifus too

[sharp wing]

Even if yr neet sandbag too boring

or too troublesome for no much return

[shell heron]

we sandbag only to flex ranks here

normies don't even know we exist

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

thinking their temporary r1 is going to stay

[sharp wing]

No1 knows about Cay's wars

with Eldie

[ionic magnet]

[shell heron]

a 3rd party had joined the war. Formi/Centaur comps

planes that rival the Japanese

[sharp wing]

Maybe usn

Lusty Eldie unholy Union

[shell heron]

the forbidden 2 that will stall all non believers

[sharp wing]

inb4 Azuma Lusty

[shell heron]

Azuma will beat Portland in being tanky

[sharp wing]

Azuma will beat crap out of everyone

[keen sparrow]

wat yuki swing skin give hp n eva?

[shell heron]

yes sure.

the l2d is bait to nerf all who use her in PvP

[sharp wing]

[keen sparrow]

[shy hazel]

put eldie rainbow cloak on azuma

[shell heron]

14 minutes

better get moving

[blazing scroll]

Nah, I'm good

[empty grove]

Well that was a shit season

Back to the event

[keen sparrow]

im eat many +9

[shell heron]

didn't even hit 90

ate one last +9 on the way

[empty grove]

I ate one +9

Ohh well

[keen sparrow]

[empty grove]

I did fine for missing a match

[shell heron]

you lost r1

[empty grove]

I knew i'd lose 1 at the 10 minute mark

[shell heron]

one missed match is -10

[empty grove]

I probably got put in with AI just then too

[shell heron]

4 or 5 dead resets on the first 3 days is even worse

[empty grove]

Since my game crashed & I relogged like 1 second after reset

[shell heron]

why I have 2 devices I can play on

[empty grove]

I do

[shell heron]

if my ipad fails, straight to my phone

[empty grove]

It crashed 20 seconds from reset

[shell heron]

oh

that's over

[empty grove]

I just had to unlock & start

[shell heron]

yes I panic a little when the game crashes on me

that looping loading screen

[empty grove]

I think I need to repair my game tbh

I hate reinstalling since it removes pre-sets

[shy hazel]

ewww

what the hell

kamui top 1

[shell heron]

would you rather have me at r1?

[shy hazel]

maybe gafal

[hot creek]

im more of a novae fan myself

[shell heron]

novae is dead if the entry to top 10 is 81

[still minnow]

in gameplay help

does that reminds you guys of anything

[high bay]

sounds normal

theyre likely just being overtaken by the rushers and sandbaggers

[hot creek]

I want to write a scoring guide but at the same time all the info you need is on the pvp wiki page so

[shell heron]

by the middle of week 2. It is very possible for us sandbaggers to take top 100

while still sandbagging

yes, info on pvp points already exist on the wiki

but the concept of sandbagging doesnt

[forest lake]

[hot creek]

it does exist

its just not explicitly called sandbagging

[shell heron]

now that's just bonus point calculation

people that don't care for pvp don't know how to maximize it

then again they don't care for pvp

[hot creek]

https://puu.sh/Fbvnx/a19d7b64d7.png

[empty grove]

You can easily get gensui just by not rushing instantly

[hot creek]

well then, slightly outdated guide since it at the time of writing pvp wasn't as dead as it was now.

could still apply to jp players I guess lol

[jagged steppe]

these people dont do pvp or what

how many rank difference to get +1 or +2?

[upper sparrow]

+35 pont difference to get +1 @jagged steppe

its point difference not rank difference

[forest lake]

Man it's not even been 2 hours yet

[jagged steppe]

how do I check their point?

[forest lake]

You don't

Unless Top 100

[upper sparrow]

should i put pearl+boiler or pearl+oxy on

[forest lake]

Pearl Boiler

Unless you wanna go full torp meme then

[upper sparrow]

i still dont have , so probably still stick on classic jun

[forest lake]

Ye then it's prolly best to use Pearl Boiler

That's what I use anyw

Wait I actually use Pearl Rudder

[jagged steppe]

does BB auto aim prioritize enemy backline in pvp?

[forest lake]

Since Bulge got cucced

No
Unless HMS with Warspite

[still minnow]

what happened to bulge

[upper sparrow]

jean bart and kgv pre-salvo target vanguard if i remember

[jagged steppe]

without warspite lock they can hyst shoot the water right?

[upper sparrow]

why use bulge when u have

[jagged steppe]

*kist

just

[still minnow]

bulge got cucked by a unit?

lmaoi

so is noshiro basically able to replace belfast in any comp that uses her

[upper sparrow]

well noshi buff torp, has buff evarate skill,and free bulge for vg, she much much better than bel

[forest lake]

She's p much a mini Ykkz

In terms of tankiness

I'm swapping Pearl with Noshi and Jun constantly to see how they perform

Since Noshi dies very late

[still minnow]

I see

I was unaware she is so good

[shy hazel]

noshiro is in fact meta

and u hate meta so dont use her

[forest lake]

Just say that your waifus are coincidentally meta ships

[frail orbit]

So wut am just a floof mommy lover, not to say am seeking em for meta anyway, am here for the soothing floof and comfortable oppai of a floof mommy so

[forest lake]

Ew

[frail orbit]

Cannow go out with ur Granny

Nothing wrong w/ floof

[forest lake]

Amagi is

Grani tho is

[frail orbit]

[coral wren]

Is fire suppressor effective for yukikaze in pvp? I equip boiler + FE for her

[jagged steppe]

yes accoarding to the information I receieve from the channel called pvp in azur lane official discord at around 1 week ago

[coral wren]

I am thinking of equipment bulge for her since torps team are pretty deadly, any thoughts on that?

[jagged steppe]

yukikaze cant eq bulge

[coral wren]

Oh.. you're right

[hot creek]

also the fact that torp bulges dont really save you from torps in the first place.

[coral wren]

It reduces torp damage up to 30%

Assuming receiving 3 torps of 1k damage

That would be 1k damage reduction

Is it possible to receive that much burn compared to torp damage?

[keen sparrow]

noshi+jintsu+nanoda enjoy tons of torp buff dmg

[hot creek]

if you're facing a torp team and eat a bunch of torps, 30% damage reduction aint gonna make a difference.

[coral wren]

Thanks for the opinions

[still minnow]

Just say that your waifus are coincidentally meta ships
when faced with two waifu ships that perform the same role, I choose the one that's better

[jovial sedge]

This latest patch just makes we wonder either they are not so competent or they are just set to milk you out of gems by filling your dock... This could have been done simply by adding option to ships where in dock u pick mod or somth where u change between mods of same ship instead of having 2 different akagis etc.

@forest lake. Ugh where is that gif from. In your avatar eh... Also why everyone so insanly hipped for ch en while me sitting there trying to get skadi but noth

[forest lake]

i thought I was getting warned or sth

It's from the official Grani event trailer

And Chen is great waif

[jovial sedge]

Oh

Exu is my fav still

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

Granny lovers and pecobears smh

I'm actually trying that cn or jp meme setup w/ rudders vg w/ noshi bulge buff

before noshi it was pepega, but now

[jagged steppe]

thse people dont play game or something?

[zenith tundra]

inactive people can still appear in ur list

[sharp wing]

high lvl ppl can sit and wait till some1 move on their list, low lvl can not pvp at all

[elder crane]

or more like, anyone could just not PvP at all

or not play even

[ionic magnet]

that leftmost is already good to eat actually

[elder crane]

well, if they're playing, you can let themselves fatten up more, no need to rush it

[ionic magnet]

yea but he's asking if those guys dont play

when in reality that leftmost guy is already 0/5

maaaaaybe 1/5 but i think i remember him as a rusher

[elder crane]

err, that rank is defs not 0/5

that's like 4/5, maaaybe 3/5

[ionic magnet]

thats atleast 4/5

im 119 pts rn at rank 5.7k

shouldn't be that far considering its the start of season

[elder crane]

also another obvious point
still seaman rank so <100 points

[ionic magnet]

hmm yea prolly an earlier SS or smth

[sharp wing]

or diff server

[ionic magnet]

nah thats avrora

[sharp wing]

izumo gun ftw

[vague token]

[jagged steppe]

why did my first win +30

then now 25

last fight was 30

and earlier fight was 31

31 30 25

wtf

[sharp wing]

too low score diff

25 is basic for 1st rank

after u reach 100 score and get next rank, it will be 22 base score

[safe meteor]

think Azuma or Noshiro to be best for the vanguard with Yuki and Juneau?

[sharp wing]

well, atm azuma if at least dev 20 and has her gun should be better, but noshi can do fine too, when u get higher dev azuma it's not question, azuma default

[elder crane]

Tbh the question might more be, ykkz or Noshiro
Probably shouldn't drop Jun in an Azuma team

[sharp wing]

noshi buki azuma sasuga

[elder crane]

Dropping Jun's fat heal on Azuma
Azuma is a gunboat, remember, she needs time to have maximum effect

[sharp wing]

Release the kraken

combined IJn power

buki fires 1 torp salvo in stead of azuma

I didn't run Junie for 9 months anyway

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

ded list

1 bonus this season

starter pvp when

move all this sub lvl 40 plebes somewhere

need 100 refresh

I mean, who the hell makes pvp lvl 1 vs 120

commander

Oh, forgot, we dun have pvp

[jagged steppe]

there is no pvp

just bunches of punching sandbag

feelsverygoodm8

[sharp wing]

[jagged steppe]

I can sleep in piece now

[hot creek]

nice fleet.

[vague token]

i got 33, 30, 31

probably wont get any more

[hot creek]

7% chance for RaidarE™️ to proc 350% Lucky E damage

[sharp wing]

I forgot cleve even does something

Cleve carry 1st 1-2 months tho

Glorious yorktown days

[shy hazel]

historically they should give yorktown

a skill like hiryuu

[sharp wing]

just give 100% hp heal on fatal damage

her problem is actually her barrage is total crap

she has no damage

[shy hazel]

2 full air raids after the ship sinks

[vague token]

her barrage is fine, it's an actually barrage

and not a bonus air strike

[sharp wing]

they should at elast make her launch REGULAR revenge strikes

not shitty barrage planes

[vague token]

should make hiryuu shoot barrage planes instead

;))))

[sharp wing]

are u drunk

[shy hazel]

i mean thats what happned irl

all planes go bomb ijn

then land on enty

cos yt sank

[sharp wing]

She launches this isntead of hiryuus normal extra air raid

[vague token]

just buff it to centaur numbers

[shy hazel]

thats y its

wait for refit that will never happen

[sharp wing]

and those miss too

[shy hazel]

90% of refit in this game

is ijn

[sharp wing]

nah

lol

[vague token]

i mean 90% of ijn refits are garbo anyways

[sharp wing]

all hms dds

[vague token]

cause they're on like all the random bench warmers

oh look another monthly ijn destroyer

i cant wait to toss them on the bench

with the rest

shigure retro woooow

[sharp wing]

open refit list > see 100500 hms dds/cls

[shy hazel]

now that u think bout it

since when did we last have usn refit

i dont even rmber

[sharp wing]

since bailey?

wait no

[vague token]

i guess shigure retro is neat

[sharp wing]

shigure is late half year for EN

it\s poor man's nanoda

but nanoda perma now

[vague token]

well, no?

[hot creek]

Benson soon™️

[vague token]

shigure is global fleet wide 5% dr

lul

[sharp wing]

well yes

[vague token]

completely different

[shy hazel]

our last refit is ugh

sandy

i think

[sharp wing]

and u cannot sortie her with nanoda

cause she gets another buff

[vague token]

yeah it works on any ship, at least according to this wording

[hot creek]

They teasing me

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

ironically it's the same heal amount

[sharp wing]

which will be wasted on vg

[meager dawn]

Fought a flagship warspite in pvp she shoots at the bottom ship instead of top

His monarch is also at top

the fuck happened to warspite

[sharp wing]

it's mirror

[vague token]

im not sure about this wording, it has a semi colon after the damage reduction part

you might get the heal with ykkz

[meager dawn]

I thought it always goes top

If she’s flagship

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

nah

that's same sentence

[shy hazel]

mirror so it goes bottom

[sharp wing]

def is mirror

[shy hazel]

cos well

[sharp wing]

cause ye

[shy hazel]

🍝

code

[meager dawn]

[shy hazel]

running on

🥔

servers

[vague token]

i dunno, the barrage part also has a semi colon

[meager dawn]

what you guys talking about?

[vague token]

i feel like it's more of a Get more Torp with ykkz, but always have the barrage

shigure retro

then it's if you dont run ykkz, gain the global dr. but the healing is always active

muh semi colon

[elder crane]

healing is not active

[meager dawn]

Isn’t the heal part of the no nanoda in fleet

[sharp wing]

1st part is with yukie

second without

[elder crane]

yep, heal is without ykkz

with ykkz, she's just a torpboat

[vague token]

oh it was tested already?

xD

[sharp wing]

It's very straightforward wording

[meager dawn]

no become budget

[sharp wing]

Shigure heals Junie

I already see that troll

[meager dawn]

amazing synergy

[sharp wing]

I see it coming boyz

[vague token]

either way, ijn retros are a dime a dozen

especially any of the monthly ones

xD

[sharp wing]

At least her retro is somewhat... QT... still not docile tho

[meager dawn]

what does her torp barrage look like

[sharp wing]

like wet spaghetti

https://patchwiki.biligame.com/images/blhx/5/51/4voynxmwqhvy32mz54hebv3jowkifjv.gif

[vague token]

at least i can replace ardent with yuugure

for asw

[sharp wing]

kinda aya/buki

barrage

but with some shells

[vague token]

tfw ijn power creeps your hms asw dd

;)

[sour oasis]

If I wasn't paying attention, I'd be in trouble. Faced a defense torp meme fleet that got a lucky instant KO of my entire IJN back at the start of battle. Wave hit all 3 ships just right.

[vague token]

oof

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

what's with them and adding starter barrages on more ships

z1 got starter style barrage, now shigure lol

[sharp wing]

shigure torps barrage looks to be

136x6

assuming 100% mods on med

816 damage total comparing to aya's

nvm they are already on wiki

looks like it's not 136 lol

134

either cn wiki is wrong or pepega en

[vague token]

huh, weird numbers lol

[sharp wing]

nvm found it

so shigure supposed to have same 1% burn chance according to cn

on pellets

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

The mods are of DD HE gun

120 60 60

[vague token]

yeah

[sharp wing]

but it's stated as normal

pENpega

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

basically same as aya

but less damage in torps and more in pellets

[vague token]

yeah but that's worse

[sharp wing]

yeah

But she is not ayaya

[vague token]

because base stats are multipliers

[sharp wing]

now that I think of it... buki

[vague token]

like what, she has 10 fp over ayaya

that's like barely a gain in damage

[vague token]

for a huge drop in torp

[sharp wing]

120% scaling

dildo in there

[hot creek]

I wish there was some ibuki doujins

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

there arent? xD

that's surprising to me

[sharp wing]

Buki is pure

[vague token]

that'd be like having no monarch ones

[sharp wing]

Mona is sl00t

[hot creek]

There aren't really any monarch ones either.

[sharp wing]

[hot creek]

AL artists seem to tunnel in on the most popular girls and only do them.

[sharp wing]

Like Leip

[hot creek]

Meanwhile, even the most obscure KC girl gets at least a doujin or two

[sharp wing]

hey, kc

at expos they get like what...

majority

[vague token]

i would have figured the ex tier ships were popular

xD

[sharp wing]

I actually found 2 buki doujins just now

[hot creek]

Time to learn to draw stuff myself

I will make all the l00ds

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

wish we would get a retro for that one ijn monthly that actually checks her torp slot

for her barrage

because neat concept

we need more barrages that borrow your gear properties

[sharp wing]

so buki:mona 2:1

Didn't expect

[vague token]

xD

oh it was kiyonami

right

[sharp wing]

yes

the torp spammer

Tanikaze kai tho

[shy hazel]

cos

kc has its own fes

[sharp wing]

that thing so frail

poor thing

The alternative to tanikaze, matchless, even more paper

"matchless"

hms with their names

[hardy badge]

when did they change the pvp ui https://gyazo.com/1a7fe396334ba120ef9d0a08870fd003

[sharp wing]

Haven't happened to me in a while

oof second bonus finally

[shell heron]

137 start

looking good already

[sharp wing]

Got some1 pushing, time to pause for 3 mins

Did you meet Eldie tho?

If you don't meet Eldie, the season is a fail

[shell heron]

I didn't see an eldie

[sharp wing]

well, he gave only +1

Well, not everything is lost yet

But you need to hurry

145

[shell heron]

a good start is nice, but now comes the 3 most important days

big bonuses

[sharp wing]

Work days

[shell heron]

hope I don't get 4 dead resets again

[vague token]

event so probably

[sharp wing]

How about no

[hot creek]

oathing a DR/UR ships gets rid of the glowing border

[sharp wing]

same like dumb chat profile borders get rid of oath

[shy hazel]

would it even matter

seasons are so dead rn

even if u get high bonus as early as now

u get lots of 9s later

[shell heron]

so you're saying we should not sandbag and be losers this season

[shy hazel]

at least cay should

[shell heron]

I take bribes in gems

[shy hazel]

[vague token]

cay you never gave me gems for pushing

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

i should have charged

xD

[sharp wing]

Time to pay back

[shell heron]

I paid you a fraction of a gem

[sharp wing]

cheap

[shell heron]

$0.01 worth. you just can't see it

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

[past egret]

📉

[ripe latch]

saved gems for next event

[valid stirrup]

Oh man

The first and only time i will ever get top 10 in pvp

I gots to go sleep so i have to blow my entries early

And with my cruddy ass defense fleet, it will crumble within seconds anyways

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

I kinda want to go to sleep early tonight, but there's still 2.5 hours to go til reset

[frail orbit]

Just dont rush

[high bay]

i'll let mine crumble

because im crumbs

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[keen sparrow]

[ripe latch]

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

Oh shit russian bias hits AL

But it's not PR 3 time yet

[past egret]

Russian bias

=

“HEY REMEMBER HOW THE RUSSIAN NAVY GOT CREAMED IN THE RUSSIO-JAPANESE WAR”

“IJN CANCER SUPREMACY REMAINS ALL NEW RUSSIAN SHIPS ARE THEREFORE DOGSHIT”

I’ll donate akashi 50$ if this event turns out to be Russian ships and ANY of them are actually good

[sharp wing]

That was WoWs reference actually

(PR3)

[past egret]

Kremlin for PR3

[sharp wing]

reminds me of AH russian bb bias

that shit was scary

gangut class

marat -80% hp enemy fleet in 1 fell swoop

[past egret]

At least AL devs aren’t as stupid as WoWs devs

“We openly acknowledge the kremlin to be to powerful with firepower and armor, so we have decided to nerf its already dog shit AA guns”

[sharp wing]

WoWs have russian bias, AL ijn

[past egret]

Wargaming is a Russian company

[sharp wing]

ikr

[past egret]

Manjuu and Yostar are East Asian companies

[sharp wing]

cn

yostar is no dev

and has no relation to dev

[past egret]

Right publisher

Maybe Manju has more Japanese employees than Chinese ones

[sharp wing]

nah

devs are cn

yostar has jp office

[past egret]

Yostar must be influencing them from behind the scenes

[sharp wing]

yongshi and manju are devs

[past egret]

intern threatening them to keep his Nagato op or else

[sharp wing]

1 writes code

other company do voice art etc.

[past egret]

Which one is the coding one

[sharp wing]

yongshi

Shanghai's Manjuu Ltd. provided the audiovisual design and the writing for Azur Lane. Xiamen's Yongshi Ltd. was responsible for programming, game data design and content. The companies share joint authorship of the game and share its copyright, with a 65%/35% share of its revenue.

manju actually has no even relation to 🍝

tho ppl always blame manju

[past egret]

So Yongshi is responsible for the sphaghetti coding and the numbers/balancing for ships?

I always thought it was Manju

[sharp wing]

Not you alone

[past egret]

Yongshi

65/35% revenue

Manju 65% Yongshi 35?

Where does that put Yostar publishers

[sharp wing]

that's dev revenue

sharing

in CN game is published via BiliBili

en jp yostar

tw, hk, macao another company, kr another company

[past egret]

Ahh alright

[past egret]

In other news

I’ve found my next idea for pvp video

It involves

[sharp wing]

U gae anyway

My Wife good girl

[blazing scroll]

If you work together, you're responsible together

@sharp wing You play Iron Saga by chance?

I came across a Sagittary in pvp

[sharp wing]

I quit like a week ago

during icey collab

or was it 2 weeks

1-2 days after 65 cap release iirc

Must be pretty low in ladder now, wonder why u ran into me, lol

oh, 65 cap update was 2/6

so like 2 weeks now, lol

~~picked up another game which I dropped anyway ~~

[past egret]

What game

[blazing scroll]

I'm hanging around in lower ranks to avoid whales

[sharp wing]

whales?

well

I was rank 1 in lower lvl arena as f2p

But yeah whale progression gives a lot of gap

also u need to really whale there to get any benefit

dolphins basically as good as f2p

the longer the game lasts, the bigger the gap between f2p anyway

on the other hand u get basically all the same excluding some borderline paid mechs after a while

as f2p

but the game just too slow progression as f2p and takes too much time

1 hr a day just to do pvps

on weekends time sunk into random arena too

regular maps farm is not macroable

takes as much time

Also how much did I drop in rank after more than week

[vague token]

man, it sure would be great to get a phoenix oath or retro to go with this event

but that'll never happen

[sharp wing]

Wanted her oath for ages

Dun have incentive to oath her as it is

[still minnow]

russian event
phoenix retro

why

why would you expect a phoenix retro and not an abrora retro

[sharp wing]

1st phase is more of uss event lol

Or like getting op HMS carrier from pizza event lul

[still minnow]

fair enough

sucks to be pizza ships when a single thicc goth girl just overshadows your entire event

[sharp wing]

She just singlehandedly ended their careers

[still minnow]

to be fair the visual design on nearly all the pizza ships was terrible

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

only pizza ships I liked out of the event visually were giulio and cara

[sharp wing]

actually Lusty was the mastermind

[still minnow]

and how many ships were there? like 8?

[sharp wing]

zara?

[still minnow]

zara is fucking bursting out of her clothes

they cannot contain her

and generally the entire point of clothes is for them to contain you

[sharp wing]

I like Venetto, but...

[still minnow]

I like her too

[sharp wing]

She has same fate as Richelieu

Be a tease

[still minnow]

too many ara ara girls in that event

[shy hazel]

they also share the same fate

[sharp wing]

and gae litt

[still minnow]

also didn't help that formi was the first girl to get oath lines in her default skin

[shy hazel]

of being irrelevant in pvp once released

[sharp wing]

U never know

Did u ever expect hms carrier meta?

[still minnow]

super weird that she got that and not one of the italian ships

[sharp wing]

That depends on va too

[still minnow]

that's dumb

I've had the game muted

since the moment I installed it

who the hell wants their phone making anime girl moan noises

[sharp wing]

U can write any line, but cannot make another VA for it

I mean, many ships are released not even being voiced yet

But having 1 line unvoiced is another deal

[still minnow]

I can see the argument that you're paying gems for the oath ring and therefore paying gems to have the new lines voice acted

[sharp wing]

Roon had no VA and special lines on her dress for few months

[still minnow]

I didn't even know roon has special lines

creeps me out so much I don't look at her wiki page lol

[sharp wing]

I mean, her dress + default liens were so good

Then suddenly she started saying different lines

I liked it actually without special lines

"granting sweet release"

wish we could turn off skin lines

And also those unique oath anims on some skins

well, on l2d

[still minnow]

tbh

all the l2d skins I looked at in the l2d viewer

were such bad quality

that I wouldn't be comfortable selling them if I had made them

[sharp wing]

Did u see taihoe anni dress oath anim?

[still minnow]

is that the one where she pulls mail out of her tit?

[sharp wing]

other skin

anni

[still minnow]

ill see

lol it's called forbidden feast

nothing about taihu is forbidden

maybe if you named nelson's skin that it would make more sense

ahaha yeah that's pretty racy

[sharp wing]

the batch of late l2d were really shitty animations

taihoe new skin etc

[still minnow]

I liked honolulu's festival skin

probably just biased because I like honolulu tho

most of the girls I like don't even have l2d skins, nevermind having good ones

[sharp wing]

tsuns belong to 🚮

So I dun care

[still minnow]

lulu is a deconstruction of the tsun trope

not a straight tsun

[sharp wing]

well, there 2 types of tsun in the 1st palce

tsun mains and dere mains

[still minnow]

tvtropes said theres classic and modern

but idk at that point it's getting past my threeshold of weeb tolerance

[sharp wing]

deredere for lyfe

And choukai dun have skin

[still minnow]

I like kuudere a lot, affection means a lot more to me when the person isn't to everyone

[sharp wing]

it is not to everyone

[still minnow]

like how compliments mean more when they come from someone who doesn't compliment people very often

I thought the entire point of deredere is that she's sweet towards everyone

[sharp wing]

but she doesn't "love" everyone

it same situation as with kuuderes

she can be kind to everyone

but it's different

[still minnow]

well as you said about tsunderes, the kind I like are tsun by default

but dere to their object of affection

[sharp wing]

tsuns are not dere to you all the time

[still minnow]

but I'm pretty sure that's also what kuudere means so idek what the distinction is between them

[sharp wing]

wonder how much would it piss you off if yr girl shit on you in public

[still minnow]

I would break up with her on the spot

[sharp wing]

That's tsundere for you

[still minnow]

honolulu never insults you though

and you said she's a tsundere

never says anything bad

[sharp wing]

it can be also attitude

not verbal

[forest lake]

[still minnow]

well I mean her oath line is literally her asking you to fuck her

which is a very dere thing to do

[sharp wing]

This is 100% tsun attitude

well, cause that's aoth

that's like end of anime

[still minnow]

and isn't that how you would judge a girl's behavior to you; after she loves you, not while she's a strenger?

[sharp wing]

It's like saying Shana is totally not tsundere

cause in the end...

[still minnow]

no idea who shana is lol

[sharp wing]

[still minnow]

this game is the only interaction with any anime media that I have

literally have never watched an anime etc

so I don't really get references or tropes I guess for the most part

or rather I relate them to irl

rather than other media

I do believe that if a girl genuinely likes you irl she would never disparage you, so I guess that factors into my expectation of what behavior a tsundere should have

[sharp wing]

I mean, u have like 0 idea what tsundere is

[still minnow]

apparently

[sharp wing]

She does exactly what you wouldn't expect

[still minnow]

I got my understanding of it off tvtropes

[sharp wing]

And probably about kuuderes too if u say they are same as dere, while being opposites

[still minnow]

The moods of a Tsundere tend to switch in reaction to the actions of select people or adverse scenarios; the deredere side usually only comes out when someone has acted in a way to trigger it.

ie cold to people in general but sweet towards the love object

[sharp wing]

(mostly in private tho)

(and in good mood)

[still minnow]

and then my understanding of kuudere is that they're people that have a good grasp on their emotions but for whatever reason don't like to be vulnerable to people

so if they trust you and are willing to emotionally engage with you then you get the dere

so I mean my understanding of them is influenced by people irl and by the tvtropes pages lol

rather than being influenced by characters in anime or whatever

[sharp wing]

classic tsundere situation irl, when the pair tries to hide relationship

[still minnow]

my understanding of it is that any girl that is proud of having her boyfriend is going to want to show him off

so if she's not proud of having him as her boyfriend then she's probably not as attracted to him as it may seem at first glance

[sharp wing]

...

That's not how tsun works

More like, the more she acts opposite

the more she likes you

[still minnow]

that doesn't happen with honolulu though, she doesn't like the commander initially but then comes to like him over time and defrosts as she likes him more

that more fits the kuudere definition

than your tsundere

[sharp wing]

That's classic tsun trope

[still minnow]

she doesn't act opposite the more she likes him though

[elder crane]

Tsun is where she acts specifically hostile

[sharp wing]

tsun classic lol

[elder crane]

Kuu is more not showing any affection

[still minnow]

I interpret her secretary lines as being written for her stranger affection level

or "like"

[sharp wing]

character is made not only of LOVE affection

in the end they all much the same

[still minnow]

yeah, but I'm saying that my understanding is cold/aggressive during stranger then sweet during love

and you're saying that's not how it is

[sharp wing]

they are all sweet during love

[still minnow]

none of the other tsunderes in this game are

or rather, girls that are frequently referred to as tsundere

[sharp wing]

this game doesn't define character types too

[still minnow]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp wing]

But tsun is a tsun

[still minnow]

I would call honolulu a tsundere

and hipper/nelson/etc tsuntsun

but that's not how anybody uses any of these terms

so what I call anything seems to be pretty irrelevant in the end

[sharp wing]

As I already said, 2 types of tsuns

[elder crane]

Well, obvious one is ykkz

[sharp wing]

main dere and main tsun

[elder crane]

Ykkz goes full deredere with oath

[sharp wing]

yukie is bad doge

[still minnow]

well I thought it was main dere/secondary tsun or main tsun/secondary dere

[keen sparrow]

[still minnow]

hipper is just full tsun

front to back

same with nelson

[sharp wing]

oath them and they will be all dere

[still minnow]

they aren't

[sharp wing]

like wet spaghetti

🍝

[still minnow]

nelson is constantly trying to put up a front that she doesn't actually like you, she just likes your ability to succeed

even on her oath

that isn't very dere

[sharp wing]

she is main tsun type

[still minnow]

idk man tvtropes said that the primary tsun ones will be dere towards their object of affection

not even more tsun

[sharp wing]

Nelson maybe a bit off

but that's how it is

have different waifus

her special touch especially expressive tho

[still minnow]

inb4 oath skin for nelson without any tsun