pvp

[sharp wing]

[forest lake]

[charred sable]

No missing attacks for me this maintenance

[ripe latch]

[empty grove]

I'll take the risk

[shell heron]

always take the risk

[ionic magnet]

only secretary that matters

[forest lake]

Wait not oath

[ionic magnet]

shhhhhh

[hot creek]

Bruh

[empty grove]

Rip

Embrace the torp meme

[shell heron]

shit, I didn't get to check leaderboards before maint

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

still won that match but JB scares me now.

[shell heron]

JB isn't scary, but formi kinda is

almost lost a match last season because of her

[ripe latch]

jb free +90

[shy hazel]

are you telling me

u almost lost

to a mere hms fleet

[hot creek]

Nah it started out spooky at first though.

[ripe latch]

[charred sable]

Gonna get a second choco from Belfap this year. Her place in PvP may be gone, but she'll always have a place in my heart

[coral wren]

Good, that means jb isn’t quite hopeless

[meager dawn]

a thotago

[upper sparrow]

royal milk

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

so whos got the best milk

[sharp wing]

Dido

[ionic magnet]

[forest lake]

🍑

[forest lake]

saggytits do you want hot Nearl pics

[frail orbit]

Spectitty pls

[elder crane]

If only devs put as much effort into PvP as they put into making the polaris rhythm game

[empty grove]

A rhythm game that'll vanish never to come back too

Time well spent if you ask me

[sharp wing]

well, polaris ships are treated as normal ships and not collab, so event most likely reruns

[jagged steppe]

itadakimas

[elder crane]

Dammit, just this one left to full combo, but I keep screwing up one of the sliders

[sharp wing]

Akagi came home 1st

Some fun gear skins

Lmao, stage gems only

[sharp wing]

That trolling with t2 baguette gun tho
I'm totally not agitated.

[midnight heron]

who dis

[vague token]

no equipment in this one =/

rip

[sharp wing]

My neps managed to get you -10% hp

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

ok suruga is ready for fdg

https://gyazo.com/0026e1f2fcd513a89bcbf11055dc9a00

only need like 8 months

or more for dev 30

no big deal

[sharp wing]

Aurora skin has proper face at least

[tender creek]

[sharp wing]

And it begins

[shell heron]

the 3 stages of Akagi

[sharp wing]

There was Eldie in VG too

[elder crane]

That's how you do it...

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

Also
I'm done with her shit
When you're up against Namayuu with Namagi Suruga (and carrying a lv 109 Azuma)
And you somehow fricken proc barrages less times despite average supposed to be 6.1 vs 4 procs
How tf am I supposed to win that

Made me reset 4 times

[sharp wing]

I always corpsedrag

Doing double atm too

[karmic forum]

My entire vanguard is corpses

[jagged steppe]

my entire fleet except enterprise is corpes

[vague token]

imagine using nagato and hoping you out rng your opponent

[jagged steppe]

imagine using nagato

[vague token]

just use amagi suruga warspite and stall until warspite murders everyone xD

[jagged steppe]

imagine having amagi

imagine this game being nice to new player and put all meta boat to medal exchange

is the only way new player can beat nagato amagi hiryu is using enterprise and timestone?

im unironically using this fleet because I have nothing to use

[elder crane]

Idk about enty there, but also idk if anything better really, maybe own Hiryuu? Cent or Formi should be good if you have either
Also vanguard is
You defs want Juneau if you can
Noshiro is great 3rd if you have her
Otherwise, Bel is still fine I suppose

Wait, is that retro warspite or not, I'm bad with chibis

[sharp wing]

red sword = retro, and more floof

and instead of buttons she has weird cross leather straps

[jagged steppe]

qe isn't that bad my warspite miss alot less againts amagi

[sharp wing]

It's really hard to tell from glance

QE doesn't add acc tho

she adds eva

[jagged steppe]

what

[sharp wing]

QE is eva buffer

no acc buff

[jagged steppe]

time to throw to the bin

[sharp wing]

nagato buffs acc

[jagged steppe]

I just got monarch should I try that?

[sharp wing]

like max dev?

[jagged steppe]

I just got yesterday

[sharp wing]

well, how much bps u have?

cause u need to focus pr2 now anyway

[jagged steppe]

im doing seatle atm

[sharp wing]

33 bps rip

don't bother

[jagged steppe]

I got saint louis and monarch

[sharp wing]

on top of lvling her u can't dev her

hood would be better at this point

[jagged steppe]

lvl isn't problem

I farm my enterprise 116-120 1day

[sharp wing]

Try lvling underdeved boat that equals to lb0

[jagged steppe]

nono

I dont lvl ship until 100

throw in 10hour mission and dorm

[sharp wing]

I mean

underdeved pr ships even 120

still weak

cause they have no limit break bonuses

and bonus stats

[jagged steppe]

im trying to get rainbow gun

[sharp wing]

u basically have high lvl lb0 bote

[jagged steppe]

eventually i'll have alot of bp after 5-6month right?

[sharp wing]

the problem is

u need to focus on pr2 and if u want gun fast u don't use focused cube pr2 projects, cause those dun give equip bps

and that slows yr ship progress

[jagged steppe]

im at pr1 trying to get my last 4 +10 acc aa gun

[sharp wing]

guess it's fine with more casual approach of not using coob comms anyway

well

[jagged steppe]

I got the rest already

1 each

did my discord freeze or something

[sharp wing]

u need at least 3 staags

better 4

azuma and 3 bb backline

[jagged steppe]

but I barely get one

[sharp wing]

well

[jagged steppe]

how long does it take for staag?

[sharp wing]

it's all rng

one per month i'd say

in good case

U could probably live without them and use +5 acc pr2 gun

[elder crane]

For monarch, don't bother with her unless she's at least dev 25, and she's probably still not worth bringing until dev 30
That's, what, 200 and 343 prints respectively

[sharp wing]

and switch to pr2

[elder crane]

So yeah, a long way off

[sharp wing]

Mona is ded

CN basically forgot pr1 even exists at this point

[elder crane]

Not without event ship options

[sharp wing]

You will get amagi and nagato reruns faster, than dev 30 Mona

[elder crane]

isn't monarch still recced for pure HMS main?

Mmmm idk

[sharp wing]

ehh

like cent comp?

non event

[elder crane]

Amagi maybe, Nagato probably not I'd say

[sharp wing]

nagato should be around may

[elder crane]

For nonevent, I'd drop QE rather than Monarch for Cent

[sharp wing]

and well, at this rate

new players cannot dev that fast

[ionic magnet]

monarch is fine

[elder crane]

We're clearly delaying reruns right now

[ionic magnet]

nothing changed in def comps really

[sharp wing]

Also like aside Staag staying on pr1

[ionic magnet]

its just that warkai is better at sniping now so shes preferred over mona

[sharp wing]

couple ca guns and staag

well, like warkai+mona

[elder crane]

Well, rudder and AA radar are in PR1 and PR2

[sharp wing]

they are in both

same as twin 381

pr1 is only CA guns and staag for most part, rest stuff pr2

well, nep gun for nep

well, triple 381 can be good too

but in 3 bb setup u will go for 1 457 anyway and twin410/381

[elder crane]

Well, you still get rudder/AA radar in PR1 too, and higher rate pretty sure due to smaller equip pool, I think

And it's twin 406, not 410 smh

[sharp wing]

well, u dun get random dr bps

and like pr1 ships become obsolete

anyway

in fdg azuma days

aside azuma noshi buki vg maybe

[elder crane]

Lol that's like half a year aside from a handful of ppl

[sharp wing]

yeah, but for new players

better go straight to pr2

strictly pvp wise

ofc

gen pr1 bps from events focus can do 1 max pr1 ship I guess

[elder crane]

For PvP, given how far away FdG/Azuma are, and even though seattle is pretty good, I'd rec going for equips first, and without considering 457 since that's too far away too
Though for PvP in particular, that's still PR2 equips

Pretty sure we don't get any PR1 gen prints anymore?

PR2 ones fully replace them

[sharp wing]

well, last few events gave

or idk

[elder crane]

They didn't

Not since PR2 was out

[sharp wing]

what was last event with mixed shop

I remember shop had pr1 + pr2 bps

but well

that prolly was back in summer

[elder crane]

We didn't get PR2 prints until it released

And it released December

[sharp wing]

yeah

[vague token]

[elder crane]

But yeah
Equips are the PR upgrades you get in reasonable amounts of time for a new player

And beyond a few CA guns for PvE, PR2 should be the main focus

[vague token]

id probably just skip nep gun and CA guns

then just use core data CA gun

[sharp wing]

nep gun only for ap skill anyway

seattle gun better

[vague token]

yeah all 2 ships xD

[sharp wing]

2 years and we finally get general use HE cl gun

lmao

[elder crane]

Yeah, Seattle gun is preferred in most situations in PvE
Idk about Nepgun vs Seattle gun for secs though

[sharp wing]

for pvp seattle still pref aux

but for pve...

tbsk can do

if trains

otherwise seattle will do fine

ch 12 and 13 has no this problem anyway

all about aa

[elder crane]

Seattle gun should be much preferred for def side

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

Nepgun probably still best for off though

[sharp wing]

and seattle gun gives aa too

I also rofl when nep gun misses target due to converging too early and going sides from target in pve

that's hilarious

doesn't account for vg movement when targeting

My guess, speculative ofc, is that during targeting phase, position remains locked to where vg was during start of targeting

[vague token]

i mean isnt that all the guns xD

[sharp wing]

well

that predelay for Cl is what... 0.6?

[vague token]

most dont converge but i imagine it works the same in the spaghet code

[sharp wing]

or was it 0.8

[vague token]

id have to check wiki

[sharp wing]

wait...

what am I talking

0.16 and 0.18

dd and cl

and 0.2 for cas

guns

[vague token]

xD

[jagged steppe]

how good is homing beacon in pvp?

is that 4% cdr really good compare to +100 catapult?

[sharp wing]

U never use cata anyway

it's all avgas, beacons, rudders/armor

beacons gives around 1 sec reduction for 21+ sec reload

[sharp wing]

U dun need beacon on enty , she doesn't sync with anything

avgas

[jagged steppe]

which?

[sharp wing]

avgas + rudder if she gets hit by fast barragers, like Amagi, before she can launch

[jagged steppe]

which should I use?

[sharp wing]

hellcat

[jagged steppe]

I feel like hell cat launch super slow

[sharp wing]

have anything else?

[sharp wing]

well, that's a no

u need reppu

for aa bait and speed

[jagged steppe]

how do I get it

[sharp wing]

seafang is pve plane anyway

reppu is research

or u could farm archive... but that's pretty painful

[sharp wing]

it's universal for any pr

same as ryuuseis and rudders

so u will get plenty of them eventually

We got 2 free from 2 event runs tho

and whatever managed to farm in event

[jagged steppe]

should I farm jean bart gun from this event?

[sharp wing]

Do you have JB?

if no wait JB rerun

gun itself is pretty useless

[jagged steppe]

does jb rerun give free gun?

[sharp wing]

was shop i think

yeah

u buy bps in shop

in addition to ones u farm

[static tartan]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Iris_of_Light_and_Dark_EN#Exchange_Shop

[sharp wing]

so it's like... whatever bbps u have by the end of event

and buy as much as u need from shop

[jagged steppe]

how many bp required to craft?

25?

[sharp wing]

15 I think

since shop has 15

need check my

[static tartan]

You can craft it from the exchange shop, so 15 yes

[sharp wing]

foundry

15 like regular non pr gold gears

25 is for PR gears

There is also purple 330mm gun with AP ammo, same firing mechanics as jb gun

[jagged steppe]

its all useless right?

[sharp wing]

Dunk gun

what exactly?

Anyways

U will most likely farm JB gun, cause it's sp5/special drop

and u probably will farm some event

I'm slightly infuriated by t2 baguette gun tho

devs troll

[jagged steppe]

what is baguette gun

[static tartan]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Single_138.6mm_(Mle_1929) BiS on most ships

[jagged steppe]

oh

shouldn't they give this gun

[vague token]

the gold one

[jagged steppe]

on s5

[vague token]

not the purple one

[jagged steppe]

rather than

jb gun

that nobody use

[sharp wing]

yeah

they should

JB gun 🚮

Baguette

They troll

[vague token]

should have given us like a polaris gun

that shoots notes

or a polaris dive bomber that is worse than heccdiver

;)

[sharp wing]

same modifier to all armor

50%

damn McCluscky with t0 bombs cannot outdo even junkers

[jagged steppe]

its garbage diver?

[sharp wing]

It's basically worse BTD

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

for god's sake

Who design that crap

U cannot be worse than BTD

[jagged steppe]

only this plane +5% to cv

or all torp bomber+fighter?

[sharp wing]

supposedly buffs airstrike

But damage loss compared to Helldiver is too big

to even bother with skills

Also that plane has no aa guns

[vague token]

i think it might be better

than stuka

en wiki table doesnt adjust for base hit

2k having a huge hit bonus makes a big deal

[sharp wing]

stuka has the numbers

Could they make a damn gold german bomber

[vague token]

no, cant make zeppy t0

xD

[sharp wing]

So Zep wasn't such walking disappointment

I hoped for something on biscuit event

but they didn't even have goddamn homing torps

drops were disgusting

shop was ded

[vague token]

oh it's actually pretty close

the Raw DPS of stuka is only like 1.6 higher than dauntless

[sharp wing]

Do you have cn wiki page for that

[vague token]

i just did math

[sharp wing]

I kinda never bookmarked it

[vague token]

oh sure

[sharp wing]

Only comparison

[vague token]

https://wiki.biligame.com/blhx/命中与BB的不寻常关系

the section translates to like big-bomb

i think that since the raw values are so close

the dauntless does better on heavy of course

stuka does better on light

both are worse than btd

minus stuka being good on light

[sharp wing]

no point to bother with junkers

If only shop bara bomber had 2x bombs to be superior BTD

Also when we get new stuff in shop

seaplane is on nagato rerun

rest idk

[vague token]

someday we'll get competitive dive bombers

or at least ones with lots of utility

but today is not that day

or the year

xD

[sharp wing]

And not next year

[jagged steppe]

helldriver master race

[sharp wing]

masterplan~~e~~

[sharp wing]

That Akagi in sp3 looks hyperhilarious

Akagi pretending being 18

Found one kgv warkai mona fleet

[coral wren]

Uhhh...

Are new ships any good?

I was thinking it's just new skins

[shy hazel]

missed rounds this season

cos cant connect

so stupid

ill skip this season out

[sharp wing]

You might just consider them skins

[shy hazel]

this event is making me to consider

to quit faster

why these garbage in collection

its supposed to be collab

[sharp wing]

Yeah, it's not collab

for some reason

[jagged steppe]

so

[sharp wing]

It's collab, that is not collab

[jagged steppe]

there will be a rerun version of this event

with

jean bart gun again!!!11

[sharp wing]

Since ships in collection, there will be way to obtain them

Collab ships are not counted to collection % cause they dun rerun

[jagged steppe]

so next year

[sharp wing]

[jagged steppe]

they can have 2 week before this rerun event

and 2 week for this event rerun

to waste our time

while they will be planning to do something

they waste our time here 4 week

and the future 4 week

[sharp wing]

well, only 1 week between events

[jagged steppe]

free 2 month with not so high efford!!11

[shy hazel]

anyways im out this season

i wont even move

[jagged steppe]

how about you move and let everyone farm +1!

[sharp wing]

Too behind anyway

[jagged steppe]

.

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

Just useless

[jagged steppe]

how many run do you miss?

5?

[coral wren]

Thx for the answer. Gonna annihilate em all. I guess rb prints is the only thing of value there

[sharp wing]

I think Sheff was only one worthwhile

Gotta catch em all anyway

[vague token]

sheff u is like the only way to share damage reduction on CAs

since regular sheff doesnt cover most of them

[sharp wing]

Akagi might be not bad too

idk how strong her barrages are tho

[vague token]

i think gascan is budget gascan

you get the manual thingy

[sharp wing]

U don't

gascan is just Muse buffer

what even those musical ammo do

there different colors too

[vague token]

the music notes have like different ammo types

[coral wren]

nothing good i presume

[sharp wing]

Gascan only gets fastload on 1st volley

that's about it

And she only gets mg+1

[vague token]

i mean, she's just a budget version of her real version

170 efficiency

mgm+1

[sharp wing]

I mean she is trash

[vague token]

same thing

[sharp wing]

yeah, but she has no skill

[vague token]

i mean if she's alone

she gets 12% damage

[sharp wing]

fastload instead of damage

[vague token]

also note that 1st shot always has +6% fp

and 2nd shot always has +12%

guaranteed

well unless you wait like 10 years to fire the 2nd shot

[sharp wing]

but u can't manual her like regular

She will fire second shot automatically

[vague token]

oh yeah xD

well i mean she is the Budget version

0 bps required

[sharp wing]

eh

[vague token]

she's pretty much fine as is

[sharp wing]

se is QT tho

[vague token]

also since she converts ammo 100%

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

you can use any gun

[sharp wing]

gold 406 as usual

[vague token]

i dont remember the music note mods

i think they were posted/mined back when it originally released

but it isnt on wiki

[sharp wing]

That Akagi

idk, she just looks so

the chibi in sp3

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

cutengineering

Sprat.

[vague token]

at least clevebro is having fun in sp1

too bad no one will grind here

level 16 enemies lul

[sharp wing]

clevegae

[past egret]

Take that back

[sharp wing]

gaecleve

[past egret]

My newest creation

I call it

Cleve cube

[sharp wing]

gaecube

[past egret]

[sharp wing]

Too gae

[vague token]

no bully texas

[sharp wing]

Bully SilverTrash

[vague token]

also speaking of stuns, when do we get CC torpedos

slow torps that do no damage would be nice

perfect to combo with kgv

[past egret]

So you want torps you can put on Juneau so barrage comp can obliterate frontline

[coral wren]

by that time kgv will be irrelevant already

[vague token]

i mean, i have a well known gun bias

[frail orbit]

Far worse

[vague token]

so yes

[frail orbit]

[past egret]

Speaking of barrage

Gulio barrage looks nice

[sharp wing]

I loved it since I got her

[past egret]

Time for the dreaded question then

pvp viable ¿

[sharp wing]

Ofc not

[past egret]

🔫

Anyone tried it yet?

Seems like weakened Nagato barrage

[sharp wing]

nah

lol

[coral wren]

btw, if dido could buff any hms main fleet ship she would be kinda relevant

[vague token]

to be fair big seven is a weakened nagato barrage

[sharp wing]

xD

[vague token]

dido doesnt need to buff hms main

[sharp wing]

regular big 7 is weak sakura big 7

[vague token]

dido needs defensive buffs for dido class

[frail orbit]

Imagine 406 gun vs 410 guns

[past egret]

Big Seven is original Nagato barrage is it not

[sharp wing]

nagato is Sakura big 7

[past egret]

Or did Nagato come out before FW Rerun on JP

[vague token]

this would reward dido/sirius/juneau with qfc

[frail orbit]

Nein. Sakura Version it is

[sharp wing]

fw has nothign to do with big 7

big 7 is HMS original

[past egret]

The BB’s have it

[jagged steppe]

will other big7 have retrofit?

[past egret]

Oh

[sharp wing]

rodney and her sister

[past egret]

Ok HMS origination

.

Why the fook sakura get a special version

[sharp wing]

vanilla ships

it's even called sakura

[frail orbit]

@sharp wing u forgot Colorado class

[sharp wing]

colorado is event

not vanilla

[frail orbit]

Still same weakass Big 7

Anyway

[sharp wing]

1st ships were rodney and her sister

[frail orbit]

If u wanna think about it

410 instead of 406

On IJN ships

So bigger caliber = better barrage

[sharp wing]

twin tho

ws triple

[frail orbit]

WS double lel

[sharp wing]

ijn had twin 410

[frail orbit]

Remember WS carried Hoodgun predecessor r8?

[sharp wing]

vs triple 406

[frail orbit]

But but Colorado class also has twin 406

AFAIK

[jagged steppe]

can I have yamato with 510

[coral wren]

i kinda doubt if dido could buff sirius for 15% eva she would be saved

[frail orbit]

Forgot 4x2 or 5x2 tho

[coral wren]

But 20 crit chance for a main gun along with 7 acc for flag would be really good

If it was applied to any ship rather than shitty qe

[jagged steppe]

qe retrofit then

[vague token]

i meant more like DR not evasion

like the last thing the other dido class needs is more fp/tp mods

assuming you run qe, you already have a billion fp boosts

[coral wren]

Only sakura ships are allowed to use DR

[vague token]

is not sakura

[sharp wing]

lol

actually not

[elder crane]

yep, they have enough mods that if they actually stuck around, they'd do respectable damage

issue is that they don't stick around long enough

[vague token]

sirius gets two (one is just free 20% fp lol)

BP gets a super easy 20% (juneau)

and 50% crit rate

like they have huge damage boosts already

outside of torpedo

[sharp wing]

bp has like no torpedos

and papery

[frail orbit]

Hence why u usually run em Didos being hugged by a tankier vg anyway

Or just slap em as better Juneau no heal, slap with fooken tears

[vague token]

bp on her own is tankier thank sirius since she has smoke

xD

technically

[elder crane]

yep, and that's why they're not that good for PvP
Literally Azuma the only good gunboat cause she's immortal
Maaaybe Sanrui, ish

[vague token]

sanrui is bait

[sharp wing]

If sanrui had preload

[vague token]

does less damage than cls

she'd still have too limiting of an angle

[sharp wing]

no preload and no aux

🚮

[elder crane]

she still doesn't stick around long enough for it to work

[vague token]

also, cls get damage boost so

xD

[frail orbit]

Imagine 50s only

50s

[elder crane]

she doesn't even make it to 40 s that reliably, except maaybe if you coddle her, that's not really the issue
Azuma on the other hand, tank spot and still is the last vanguard alive half the time

[vague token]

you know, did anyone ever datamine to make sure CB pvp mods are the same

as the rest?

or do they just not exist

[elder crane]

or BBV tbh

[vague token]

yeah

[frail orbit]

Perhaps this is why devs wont gib Sanrui skins

[vague token]

like what if hyuuga does ok because no 20% penalty lul

[sharp wing]

bbv have no penalty

[elder crane]

well
a good chunk of their dmg is fires anyways, which ignored that in the first place

[vague token]

xD

extra big burning

[sharp wing]

Baka shit on yr bbvs anyway

I probably wouldn't even use her back then if not to counter hyuu

wait, independent salvos aim in volley on Gascan muse is LB trait

EN wiki doesn't have that tho

but cn wiki has it

[vague token]

oh i think it isnt on en wiki yeah

[sharp wing]

any1 has her?

[vague token]

actually it says it on red skill

in game

one sec

[sharp wing]

red skill description on muse doesn't have that

[vague token]

i wonder if copy pasta

does anyone have actual gascan

[sharp wing]

I wonder too

1 of wikies is wrong smh

[vague token]

or in game is wrong

https://gyazo.com/f9e2f205989930e27367d8d94942e4ec

BUT also

https://gyazo.com/7e40dc75e6690a18db2aca1f567d8f44

it's in two locations

just in case you forgot lol

i think it's copy pasta

there's no reason to put both

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

actually wait

why would she get First Reload speed

when she also gets main gun base +1

[sharp wing]

1st volley load speed

[vague token]

or wait

does she get 4 shots?

[sharp wing]

it like amagi

no

that's bs

[vague token]

or is it just worded ultra weird

[sharp wing]

gun reload means when volley is ready

[vague token]

why would you give MGM+1 but also Gun Reload 2 shots

like that's unnecessary

you wouldnt have to list both

[sharp wing]

I think that's why En has no manual salvos on limit break

and they translated CN skill

[vague token]

like if you look at regular gascan's dev level boosts

[sharp wing]

and cn has manual on limit break

[vague token]

she doesnt get MGM+1

because her skill covers it

[sharp wing]

yeah, EN skill is pepega

cn got it better

they just have manual salvos on limit break and nothing about that in skill

like EN wiki description

but En wiki forgot to put manual salvos on limit break

or whatever

[vague token]

well, also note that there's still no reason to say both mgm+1 AND every reload gives 2 shots

cause that just "looks" like you would get 4 shots

xD

[sharp wing]

that's why CN DOESN'T say that

[vague token]

i mean in game

in game is big bait

[sharp wing]

well

I think it's right

[vague token]

i mean they should just remove MGM+1

[sharp wing]

each reload 2 shots

[vague token]

from the description

[sharp wing]

cause mg+1

[vague token]

and JUST say you get 2 shots

to be consistent with standard gascan

standard gascan doesnt get MGM+1 listed anywhere

or does she?

in en

[sharp wing]

idk

dun dev her

can't see enhance tab

[vague token]

same

xD

🍝

inb4 en bug where gascan muse gets 4 gun shots

lel

actually since it's listed twice it could be 8 shots

MGM+1, 2 shots per reload, 2 shots per reload

big bug bois

that would be hilarious

[sharp wing]

if she really gets double manual

[vague token]

or maybe it's double manual with each pair getting two salvos

i dunno im not gonna think about it

i tossed her in oil comm

someone else try

[frail orbit]

Std gascan not even havin mgm+1, instead got it from her skills

[sharp wing]

it's either just same as regular or auto at all

[frail orbit]

[vague token]

i mean in the end

it's probably just gonna function like regular gascan

en is just a troll

[frail orbit]

Whataya expect with EN

[vague token]

only the finest 🍝

[frail orbit]

Heck they kinda destroyed the lore translation too

Kinda

[vague token]

for polaris or regular lore

[frail orbit]

Ur usual Ash and Ember lore

And take that Unisip of mine as Univomit

[vague token]

oh

[sharp wing]

Akagi came home 1st... Now there is a problem...

She doesn't let any1 else in

[elder crane]

Huh
Apparently at some point, there were 14 different fleet formations rather than the three we have now?

[keen sparrow]

akagi muse n akaga seems gud for meme launch frst

[sharp wing]

14

well

probably even involved different damage types

like torpedoes

[vague token]

oh i can limit break gascan

oil comm finished

will test

[sharp wing]

what does she say on limit break tho

[vague token]

it's up there

i posted it

xD

https://gyazo.com/7e40dc75e6690a18db2aca1f567d8f44

[sharp wing]

eh

it looks weird

[vague token]

on the first limit break

it says ALL of that

when i see that

i see 4 total shots

2 + 2

[keen sparrow]

[vague token]

i KNOW it doesnt work like that

because that would be dumb

but that's what it looks like

[sharp wing]

well, it's worded a bit bad...

[vague token]

they just need to delete MGM+1

[sharp wing]

or rather need remove mg+1

[vague token]

and the skill label

[sharp wing]

Should just take CN skill Tl too

not copypaste gascan

[vague token]

im pretty sure the first line of her skill was straight copy paste

[keen sparrow]

[ionic magnet]

am i the only who doesnt see any problem with the wording

[sharp wing]

Yeah

[vague token]

i mean, does standard gascan say MGM+1?

if i had her built i could check

and see if it is inconsistent

[sharp wing]

Don't forget, with both shots manual, you basically get MG reload each time

[vague token]

but i bet she doesnt

[elder crane]

Oh, I got it, these are plane formations

[ionic magnet]

standard gascan has mgm+1 built on her skill

[elder crane]

for the AI planes

[vague token]

yeah

[elder crane]

14 diff formations

[vague token]

except that if you look at BOTH screen shots

you'll notice it says MGM+1, 2 shots per reload

in the same limit break

and her skill ALSO says 2 shots per reload

now obviously they dont stack like that because that would be dumb

xD

[sharp wing]

well, ofc

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

hmm yes ill take 8 shots for 170 efficiency

gascan muse EX ULTRA GOD TIER

jk

[sharp wing]

with -25% fast load

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

EN

[vague token]

ill just toss her in a fleet and see what happens

in sp1

game might just implode

who knows

[sharp wing]

Happens what is expected

[vague token]

what happens is we get 2 manual shots only

xD

[sharp wing]

obviously

or they could even fucc up and not give second manual

[elder crane]

oh wtf
you know how PvP has HP mods right, with that 0.9+0.012*level multiplier
Apparently that's in a lookup table, not a formula
WTF

[vague token]

oh god why

[elder crane]

it's in the same place where the XP values needed to level up are stored

{
arena_durability_add = 0,
exp = 8900,
energy_recover_time_ratio = 35,
fight_oil_ratio = 8150,
level_limit = 0,
exp_ur = 10680,
arena_durability_ratio = 1.656,
level = 63,
need_item_rarity2 = {},
need_item_rarity3 = {},
need_item_rarity4 = {},
need_item_rarity5 = {},
need_item_rarity6 = {}
},

[vague token]

oh god

i just tried her

she actually has MGM+1

with double load

is this bug?

[elder crane]

eyyyyyyyyy

[vague token]

one sec lemme try again and ill record it

[sharp wing]

what gun u use tho

[vague token]

doesnt matter, i shot 2 blue notes and 2 red notes xD

unless it actually swaps

in between

[sharp wing]

her defualt

is double shooting one

[vague token]

wait

why would the ammo swap

during the same gun volley

roon doesnt work that way

[sharp wing]

You ask me

[vague token]

ok new test

[elder crane]

are you using the default gun?

[vague token]

yeah lemme swap

[elder crane]

if so, that's why, she uses JB gun default

[sharp wing]

swap it

[elder crane]

so it looks like 4 volleys

[vague token]

yeah but that's still jank

[elder crane]

when it's just 2

[vague token]

roon doesnt swap ammo

in between her shots

[frail orbit]

JB gun being 2x2

[sharp wing]

roon doesn't have that

[vague token]

roon has every 2 salvo?

[elder crane]

roon says every 2

[vague token]

if you used sap gun wouldnt you swap

[sharp wing]

yes

[elder crane]

you can have her switch if you desync

if you make her only fire one gun

[ripe latch]

[elder crane]

then all further salvos are one AP one HE

it's not too often that happens though

[vague token]

so you could have like 4 alternating colors with sap gun

xD

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

why limit to that

make swords and such

like in barrages

FIRE THE RAINBOW

[vague token]

i mean that because SAP gun is 4 sets of 2

she would swap in the middle

or if you used sanrui gun

[elder crane]

er, no
that's not how it works

[vague token]

then why does JB gun swap

it's 2x2

does it not function the same

[sharp wing]

it has diff mechanics

[vague token]

eww

[elder crane]

yes, and it should be 2 red 2 blue no?

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

yeah

[elder crane]

2X2 red

[vague token]

no

it did 2 red

2 blue

[elder crane]

oh

lol

[vague token]

hold on lemme test the 406

and ill go back

to jb gun

please hold for science

[sharp wing]

ohboi

[elder crane]

ah, 🍝 programming strikes again

[vague token]

[elder crane]

wait

if I use JB gun on FdG

[ionic magnet]

[elder crane]

what happens?

[vague token]

at this point

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

who knows

[elder crane]

[sharp wing]

You never know

[vague token]

game could crash for all we know

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

Yr phone can turn into blackhole

[elder crane]

if Muse Gacan switches ammo between salvos for JB gun

does FdG swap her buff too

[sharp wing]

Let's try with 406 1st

[vague token]

ok 406 doesnt shoot anything after

🍝

please hold while i go check jb

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

here is 406 gif though as proof:
https://gyazo.com/e3211f0f2d22f7b44bb05107da5622bb

[sharp wing]

Bracketing superior

cutengineering

[vague token]

ok i have equipped gold jb gun

[sharp wing]

I even have Dunk gun

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

330 ap

Dunk is Richelieu's and JB's mommy

[vague token]

ok, i think it's super broken

https://gyazo.com/957e4e97e418b6aab2039dc72d1ee9cd

it just did 1 red note

into 1 red + 1 blue

[sharp wing]

lmao

[vague token]

with gold jb gun

or maybe the first set had them overlap

[sharp wing]

try again

[vague token]

actually lemme look at the first gif again

werent there only two notes in the first gif?

x_X

[elder crane]

I thought you mean twin 406

[vague token]

no, triple 406

the normal ammo one

[sharp wing]

gold 406

[elder crane]

fire her 2nd salvo

[sharp wing]

massa gun

[elder crane]

see what happens

[vague token]

oh right timed out

xD

k hold on

here is first set of fresh fight

2 red into 1 blue

https://gyazo.com/6c00b28a22002830edd9f68c475fedb0

[elder crane]

that's 406?

[vague token]

no, jb gun

[elder crane]

or JB gun

[vague token]

i can go back to 406 once this one uploads

[sharp wing]

lmao

[vague token]

https://gyazo.com/c3729f9d0341d7167b9ada880c2b1bbc

2nd gun shot in the same fight

two blue into 1 red

note that means it went 2 red, 1 blue; 2 blue, 1 red

[sharp wing]

so switching ends even w/ 1 ammo shot

oh

[elder crane]

WTF is that

[sharp wing]

not ending

[vague token]

in this map

or rather this fight

[elder crane]

how the f does that happen

[sharp wing]

wait wait

so if u have 3 shots gun, the switching won't happen on single shot

[vague token]

you mean 3 bullets at once right

[sharp wing]

ye

3 barrels

[vague token]

hold on lemme do the 406 again

[sharp wing]

looks like...

[vague token]

ok i have the gold triple 406

[sharp wing]

it will shoot 3rd ammo with diff color, but not switch till 1st 2 shots from next salvo

[vague token]

aww no bb fleet

one sec gotta reroll the map

[sharp wing]

so u get 2 3 3....

in colors

lol

like 2 (1+2) (1+2)

and so on

[vague token]

i wonder if it's a level 1 skill issue

[sharp wing]

man

it's too 🍝 to be edible

[vague token]

https://gyazo.com/c4358f000ea4d7f959198ef5878861ec

first shot

2 red

i got 3 blue on the 2nd shot

[sharp wing]

with what gun

[vague token]

triple 406 gold

https://gyazo.com/e2c79fb51ac0c02af4d14a4ec77449c7

[sharp wing]

well, looks like that 2 3 3 3 3 3 stuff