pvp

[shy hazel]

good now you can die for the bad meme

[sharp wing]

Losers.

[past egret]

Talking down on yourself isn’t a good thing sag

[leaden jay]

So is Noshiro a top tier contender for PvP bote?

or are botes like Jintsuu, Ykkz and Aurora still superior

[sharp wing]

jints nanoda and aurora do 3 diff roles...

and Noshi pretty top tier

[elder crane]

Noshi is pretty much better Jint for PvP, yeah

[vague token]

noshi protec, but she also atac

[sharp wing]

And oni masterace

she protecc, she buff, she attac, she kills with cuteness

[ionic magnet]

she also lood with that candy thingy

[vague token]

having a lot of fun with triple torp bb/bc

there's torps flying across the screen like all the time

[ionic magnet]

torp bb?

lol

[vague token]

im using baka/suruga/amagi

cause their timings are all different

there are torpedos going full screen like all the time

it's great

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Did u do that gunboat vg tho

torp main + gun vg

[vague token]

im using sheffy atm still

because i just got a seattle gun

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

WEAK

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

ill swap azuma in later

i got her gun

xD

[sharp wing]

those azumas die in 5 sec atm

[ionic magnet]

dem you got it already

[vague token]

i was at 24 for both azuma gun and seattle gun

woke up and made both

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

my fdg gun caught up already
both 21 bps now

[vague token]

i made fdg gun a bit ago, tossed it on baka

[sharp wing]

I'm yet to see single rainbow gun bp

whose gun was that

[vague token]

rainbow?

georgia gun

[ionic magnet]

wait isnt fdg gun the rainbow one

[vague token]

no

[sharp wing]

georgia

[vague token]

georgia gun is rainbow gun

[ionic magnet]

lol these names

[sharp wing]

fdg is new twin

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

fdg is twin 410 or w/e

[sharp wing]

That gun was actually produced

like 10? copies

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

i'm at 5 seattle bps

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

and 18 zuma

lel

[ionic magnet]

why call it georgia gun when noone uses georgia

[sharp wing]

cause it's her gun

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

people use her for pve or w/e

[sharp wing]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16"/50_caliber_Mark_7_gun

[vague token]

she has a ton of damage modifiers on top of her barrage

[sharp wing]

planned Montana-class is our Georgia

[vague token]

she's good at her very specific niche

[sharp wing]

iowa when

[vague token]

lets just skip to missile bbs

[sharp wing]

no u

i want guided missile destroyers then

little bastards that shoot offscreen

Actually, one of Erebus iteration in like 18th Century was a rocket ship

[vague token]

when i was trying abyss horizon missile destroyers were fun

[sharp wing]

bomb vessel

[vague token]

ultra range xD

[sharp wing]

U played Ah too?

[vague token]

just for a bit

[sharp wing]

I dropped it after like... few weeks

[vague token]

before i stopped i swapped to cv counter attack team

xD

[sharp wing]

En server was really bad

[vague token]

yeah

the pvp is more broken in that game than this one too

X_x

[sharp wing]

well

it's relative

I got top 10 w/ bb team vs cv meta cancer still

and 1 cv was pay only pack lol

basically essential for good cv pvp team

[vague token]

midway is so annoying

infinite regen lol

[sharp wing]

kaga that reduces enemy fleet AA

midway even used in non cv comps

[vague token]

well yeah

[sharp wing]

they have Shinano tho

[vague token]

it's literally the best skill

[sharp wing]

And yandere Enty

[vague token]

xD

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

and essex that looks like enty

[sharp wing]

not on En tho

[vague token]

she stole her uniform

[sharp wing]

I want Shinano and midway AL when

[vague token]

at least they name dropped shinano

so she's on the Eventually list

in a year or two

xD

[sharp wing]

same as Yamato

Which is "too broken to be released atm"

idk how they even assess that

Like Amagi was not broken enough

[vague token]

stronger barrage than amagi, stronger buffs/debuffs

xD

[sharp wing]

Yamato more like OP Naga

[vague token]

im tired of all these flag only buffs

[jagged steppe]

or just garbage skill like other thropy boats

[vague token]

where's mikasa retro

[jagged steppe]

!

[sharp wing]

With Hyuuga skill

[vague token]

lol no

she's ijn

she gonna be busted

[sharp wing]

Hiryuu i mean

She can stand vs 300 uss planes

[jagged steppe]

can we have enty retro using nuclear power instead of oil plz

0 oil cost

[sharp wing]

btw, AH midway is not ww2 midway

it's nuclear powered one

[vague token]

yeah i know

ah is like all over in year

[sharp wing]

yeah...

have ww1 sjhips and modern ships

[vague token]

it was really confusing actually

[sharp wing]

like old russian ships

those BBs

prehistoric

And hit like a damn nuclear bomb

that Marat

Aka Petropavlosk

[jagged steppe]

is polaris next week?

[sharp wing]

should be, unless they give 2 weeks

they should be back from all holidays by now in CN?

[ionic magnet]

they said polaris is on 2/13 yea

[hot creek]

o. finally finished a seattle gun lol

[forest lake]

Mw I have FdG gun finished

So do BBs take priority for Seattle gun?

[sharp wing]

There no vg usually to use it anyway

And the longevity of life of the ones that could use it doesn't really make up for putting it on vg over bb that will pew-pew all day

Also AA boost can be more useful on main

[hot creek]

Belfap

if you really like her

[sharp wing]

Love with belfap ended when love with buki started

And on Noshi 150 barraging really good

tho for pve i dun use it

he barrage too instant and narrow whiffs too much in pve cause there no mainfleet to hit

unless u manual

[shell heron]

Dead reset. 4th one this reset.

Kind of want to abandon this season and become food if it gets too bad

[vague token]

sheffield for seattle gun

big crits

[sharp wing]

Shoo

Foodie division recruitment always opened

[forest lake]

[shy hazel]

be good or be food

[sharp wing]

or be a good food

[ripe latch]

[raw osprey]

[leaden jay]

Is Bunker Hill even T0

[sharp wing]

from the end

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

Not even 120 dido

Weak

[frail orbit]

[sour oasis]

How do I food?

[hot creek]

you play the game

[hot creek]

Benson retro soon?

[jagged steppe]

how many star my sandy shoot every 20s?

the answer is 0

cuz I dont have mic

[warm saffron]

what is the pvp meta like on CN and JP?

[hot creek]

same shit, just add FDG and Azuma.

[sharp wing]

same Namagi X + nanoda junie X, but x stops being random and becomes FdG and Azooma

Also there can be some variations like Azooam noshi buki or warkai amagi Fdg

[sharp wing]

But rare and inbetween

[shy hazel]

0 difference

because we''re techncally up to date in pvp

except dev levels

[sharp wing]

except we are months behind

no 457, no even seattle guns

no deved FdGs

barely devefd azooma

FdG gun

[hot creek]

Plenty of people got seattle and fdg guns already

[sharp wing]

1 gun

not full seattle gun backline

FdG gun is not as impactful anyway

[hot creek]

only need 1 seattle gun WFC masterrace

[sharp wing]

Plebrace

WASD masterace

No need seattleguns

[blazing scroll]

I'm still using Murica fleet

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

True plebs use Namaryu

[blazing scroll]

I'm still winning my matches so no need to switch

[zenith tundra]

@warm saffron in my jp server namaryuu still most common meta comp i run across. other strong comps i met are namagi ws, amagi suruga fdg, amagi ws fdg, ws monarch qe and namagi fdg. but 90% of the time are just random meme comps. vg is pretty much is azuma juneau yukikaze for meta comps and nep juneau belfast usually for hms and random torp comps for literally any nagato comps but usually non meta ones

[blazing scroll]

Imagine using ykk

[warm saffron]

is namaryuu nagato, amagi and hiryu?

[frail orbit]

Ye

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[blazing scroll]

yea

[warm saffron]

👌 ic ty

so basically everyone uses yukikaze and azuma for vanguard then

[blazing scroll]

Not me

[frail orbit]

He asked CN/JP

[sharp wing]

azooma juneau yukikaze standard vg later on

[frail orbit]

^

[sharp wing]

since current meta is Junea yukikaze X

[blazing scroll]

I'm still not gonna use ykk

[sharp wing]

Azooma just best X

[warm saffron]

oh ic

[blazing scroll]

I might try Fatzooma, Juneau, SanRui

[zenith tundra]

pretty much yes. there are some aurora in there over yuki or other stuff but most common is azuma juneau yukikaze

[frail orbit]

Yer on Sandy anyway
Not Avrora, not even Flexington or fooken Washy

[sharp wing]

Yr server is not top server either

[frail orbit]

^

[sharp wing]

like Sandy

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Am on Avrora so

[sharp wing]

EN

[warm saffron]

hmm in that case

is it worth to ring all of these ships?

for the stat boosts if someone was to tryhard

[sharp wing]

ringing for stats is pretty disappointing

[frail orbit]

6% boost so

If anything

I'd ring Azuma

Bkoz

Preferences 👌

[sharp wing]

only FdG anfd Azooma really worth

Offense already gets 20% damage reduction buff

so u can win vs oathed enemy fleets

[warm saffron]

oh ic kk

my defence fleet is just meme anyway

[frail orbit]

Just AL being PVE game anyway

[sharp wing]

dfense doesn't really matter

[zenith tundra]

i have pretty much all meta oathed but qe and some other hms bb for main fleet. idk if it is worth it tbh since i cannot see the difference in between oaths and non oaths. if u like pvp u can oath them but i wouldn't recommend unless u really like pvp

[warm saffron]

hmm okay ic. Didn't know about the 20% dmg reduction

it's just that I want to be able to beat any fleet without having to worry

just battle and get the merit

[frail orbit]

Heck
I oathed Formi not bkoz of meta

Only bkoz of oppai + being a qt gothic girl

[sharp wing]

AL pvp: 20% damage reduction and free resets

Oathed Formie cause she is lowkey Kurumi

[frail orbit]

Not even oathed Jintsuu Kai tbh so

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

i oathed formi for pve. ended up being useful in pvp too

[frail orbit]

Am only for her lines

Ends up being qt

[sharp wing]

pve stat oath is even more pointless than pvp

[frail orbit]

Heck

Oathed Suruga bkoz of her lines post oath

[sharp wing]

I need some Cultured sauce

[frail orbit]

Basically lood things and headpats with Suruga

[sharp wing]

skin lines?

[frail orbit]

Nu
Oath lines

Post oath

[sharp wing]

I mean skin exclusive?

[frail orbit]

Nope

Not skin exclusive

When u married her

U got that post marriage line

[sharp wing]

I dun like her enough

[frail orbit]

Who cares

More floof is always respectable

[sharp wing]

Even if she is oni

[frail orbit]

She's a tanuki tho

[zenith tundra]

since i cannot read jp i don't have to waste oaths for lines so i can waste them for pvp

[frail orbit]

Which is why I married Wakai also and Nagato

Floofy hair

[zenith tundra]

i oathed ws because random ring dropping in mail so why not her

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Am 1st and foremost being floof cultist so . . .

[sharp wing]

Nearl best floof tho

Can't oath nearl

Need AK collab

[edgy cypress]

touhou collab

[ionic magnet]

not oathing pvp botes is a crime

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Only u

As I pretty much a floof cultist

||And still sweeps over Mamagi's death in 1920ish||

[small cypress]

Best main gun for sandy kai?

[blazing scroll]

🥖 gun

[small cypress]

?

What is that? @blazing scroll

[blazing scroll]

single 138

[sharp wing]

French gun

from Iris event

U might not have it

use china gun from raid event

as substitute

[small cypress]

Raid event?

China gun? xD?

I'm new what is that?

[sharp wing]

Dido event gun

we just got

[small cypress]

Dido gun?

[sharp wing]

purple DD gun

[small cypress]

?

[sharp wing]

the gun Chinese DDs use

[small cypress]

Can u tell me the exact name?

pls

[sharp wing]

open dido event rewards and look...

[small cypress]

Sandy is good at pvp

?

[small cypress]

Yep I have it

Dido wich gun uses?

[sharp wing]

that's best dps gun after french gun

[small cypress]

Sandy is dps?

[sharp wing]

yes

dido barrage spam 100mm same as Siri

[small cypress]

100mm?

[sharp wing]

Sandy french gun, if don't have that, then chinese gun

[small cypress]

dual, single?

[sharp wing]

twin 100mm gold

it's both decent damage and barraging

[small cypress]

Sandy is good at pvp?

[sharp wing]

subpar

[small cypress]

subpar?

[sharp wing]

sandy could be good if CVs were meta defense

as things are she is mediocre

[small cypress]

I see

What is meta currently?

[sharp wing]

Namagi X and Juneau yukikaze X

on offense formie centaur comp works good too

but meme def

Consult pinned tierlist for comps and gear

[blazing scroll]

@sharp wing she's good at killing ykk tho

[sharp wing]

Not as good as Aurora tho

[blazing scroll]

Aurora is way too squishy tho

[sharp wing]

And still more useful

[blazing scroll]

I still see more Sandy than Aurora

[sharp wing]

I see neither

[blazing scroll]

[jagged steppe]

waifu>meta

[sharp wing]

warkai can carry any trash comp

QE yr waifu |?

[jagged steppe]

no

meatshield

[zenith tundra]

sorry but ws is as meta as it can get lol

[blazing scroll]

[sharp wing]

Then i don't even see waifu>meta thing

[blazing scroll]

QE is holding your comp back anyway

Just use Essex and it will look like mine

[jagged steppe]

how long did you play the game

3 month here

[blazing scroll]

Since the beginning

[jagged steppe]

my strat is kill their frontrow with double bb

and enterprise wipe their whole backline

[blazing scroll]

Enterprise is better at killing the vg tho

[sharp wing]

lol, it's other way around

En ty kills vg

ws kills backline

qe useless

[blazing scroll]

BBs are trash at killing backline unless it's sakura big 7

[zenith tundra]

qe focuses on ws target and buffs ws barrage and mg. usually not worth over other hms bb but can work. u can also patch her with evasion so she can eat hms focus

[jagged steppe]

I use double rudder

on qe

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

rudders are unique so u can only ever use 1 per ship

[jagged steppe]

passaive not working together?

[sharp wing]

no

eq skills never stack

[jagged steppe]

I mean the evasion

[sharp wing]

stats stack

[zenith tundra]

u can't equip 2 of them on 1 ship. the game doesn't let u

[sharp wing]

u using blue rudders or what?

[sharp wing]

u said double rudder...

[jagged steppe]

im blind

[sharp wing]

replace shell with then

SG

[jagged steppe]

I dont have more than 1 gold sg

4 uss gun 1 sg radar

[elder crane]

Hmm, probably just stay on white shell then
you want some more gold SG for PvP, ideally

alternatively, stack beaver badge as well on top of that rudder

[jagged steppe]

7 seafang 1 gold berracuda

my beaver is on nanoda

[sharp wing]

Pepega

never put eva gears on DDs

[zenith tundra]

why would yukikaze need evasion?

[jagged steppe]

why rofl

slot

[sharp wing]

lmao

[jagged steppe]

what do I use

[sharp wing]

wtf is that

[frail orbit]

Boiler pls

Or ankimo

[sharp wing]

FE+boiler

[frail orbit]

[jagged steppe]

this?

[sharp wing]

yes

[meager dawn]

the fuck is that nanoda aux

[jagged steppe]

k

[zenith tundra]

u should check the tierlist in pins for the equip

[sharp wing]

lmao

FE is mandatory on nanoda

[jagged steppe]

but if qe die

whole fleet losing 20% speed?

and nanoda die last anyway

[zenith tundra]

no

[jagged steppe]

beaver works even while dead?

[sharp wing]

eva gear on DD is useless

[zenith tundra]

u don't lose beaver passive

[jagged steppe]

k thx

I though 20% is lost when the carrier dead

t

[sharp wing]

by the time she dies, yr vg is usually only nanoda boiler

she dun need beaver boost

beaver good till u have slow CL alive

anyway

without Juneau yr mains probably pop fast tho

[jagged steppe]

my main die

I mean

vanguard die

enemy vanguard die to my bbs

then enty wipe their team

[meager dawn]

then hiryuu wipes your team

[sharp wing]

Enty counters hiryuu

[jagged steppe]

warspite hit hiryu first

then their juneu die

idc

then enty wipe their team

[meager dawn]

I thought it was the other way around

enty procs -> hiryuu final counter activates -> lucky e wears off -> hiryuu wrecks

[jagged steppe]

no

[sharp wing]

that's not tho

cause regular hiryuu strikes align with enty

[jagged steppe]

final counter proc after first warspite main gun

I put warspite opposite to hiryu

[sharp wing]

if enty procs each time, hiryuu cannot win

[zenith tundra]

beaver passive is not lost anyway if the wearer dies

i just tested to be sure

[jagged steppe]

does qe buff loss if qe kaput?

[meager dawn]

no

[jagged steppe]

K

[sharp wing]

qe is sacrificial lamb

[meager dawn]

juneau*

[sharp wing]

nah

juneau needs to live

[meager dawn]

she needs to live to die

[sharp wing]

as QE

[blazing scroll]

@meager dawn Nah, enty hard counters hiryuu

[sharp wing]

If she procs that is

with 100% procs she is hard counter

[blazing scroll]

True, but rng blesses me

[jagged steppe]

enty seems to proc everytime

[meager dawn]

But I usually see hiryuu's final counter just kill enty

[blazing scroll]

Against Namaryuu's my Enty is 70% hp

at the end

[sharp wing]

you prolly tank amagi with enty

[blazing scroll]

Enty skill should last long enough to waste the final counter

[sharp wing]

strictly one on one enty hard coutners

[blazing scroll]

But it depends on your gear

[sharp wing]

1 airstrike cannot kill her

[meager dawn]

hiryuu can't one shot a full hp enty right

[sharp wing]

one shot hiryuu?

[zenith tundra]

not on defense

[sharp wing]

Hiryuu has no real damage

to one shot anything

[blazing scroll]

Hiryuu would wish she had

[sharp wing]

maybe akashi

Havn't seen those fun long island fast takeoff abuse comps

[zenith tundra]

not even ws has enough dmg to one shoot something on defense

[sharp wing]

in a while

[jagged steppe]

when I start playing this game I once lost to eldridge lv120 + akashi lv120 1:1

[sharp wing]

ws cannot one shot even on offense

[jagged steppe]

is that a bait

my whole fleet lv 80

[sharp wing]

lvl 80....

[zenith tundra]

level difference

[sharp wing]

50% damage penalty

and 50% more damage taken

Eldridge immortal

at that rate

[jagged steppe]

when I start playing this game I dont know about dmg penalty

[zenith tundra]

plus accuracy penalty

[sharp wing]

each lvl gives 2% more damage taken/dealt and accuracy/evasion

caps at 25 lvls diff

iirc

50%

[jagged steppe]

both accuracy and evasion?

[meager dawn]

yes

[sharp wing]

accuracy/evasion not 2% tho

small values

so with that much lvl diff u both take 50% more damge and deal 50% less damage

and some acc/evasion loss

[elder crane]

and also PvP HP multiplier

0.9+0.012*ship level

so a low-level ship on top of everything else also has lower HP multiplier in PvP

all of this on top of stat differences from missing levels

[zenith tundra]

accuracy seems to be 1% per 10 levels so like 4% extra evasion from 40 levels difference. not as much as i expected

[jagged steppe]

will this thing be super good on warspite?

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[elder crane]

great on anyone basically

at least the first one

[jagged steppe]

how long it takes on jp?

for that gun

[elder crane]

2 or more might be a bit pepega since it's still AP, but nobody knows cause no one has 2

[sharp wing]

half year

[elder crane]

bit over 4 months for first ppl iirc

[zenith tundra]

ws benefits the most since she can at least shoot once the opponent backlines

[sharp wing]

esp if u focus ship projects

u get little gun bps

[zenith tundra]

if u are unlucky it can take even 8 months like me

[past egret]

Is 457 good on Tirpitz / Bisko

[sharp wing]

shoo

[elder crane]

I finally got my 7th print
after getting 30 of each other equip print...

great on anyone basically

[jagged steppe]

better than 381 on nagato?

[sharp wing]

on ws it's particularly good cause rainbow fp boost for barrage too

[elder crane]

great on anyone basically
need to prioritize who gets it ofc

Nagato is not high priority

[meager dawn]

which 381?

[sharp wing]

nagato is barrage on fire

same as amagi

u don't want slow gun

[elder crane]

basically whoever is already dealing the most damage gets it first

roughly speaking

[sharp wing]

and u still need some burn source

[blazing scroll]

use your vg as burn source

[sharp wing]

use yr vg as fuel for burn

[zenith tundra]

idk about nagato with 457 if u only use 2 bb u might lose too much fire dmg. if u use 3 she would still prefer 381 for barrage and 3rd bb use 457 instead

[sharp wing]

When u have nothing left to burn you have to set yrself on fire

she use twin 410 tho

[meager dawn]

izumo kai, burn yourself

[sharp wing]

izumo Kai

when

purifying flames

[blazing scroll]

Deletes your game

[sharp wing]

iT burns

[elder crane]

tbh idk if for vs main fleet, burns are more important than the extra damage 457 applies
iirc in PvE, calcs show that you don't even want to bother with HE on med/heavy bosses, just 457
ofc PvP has differing hit rate/count
(and also vanguards are a thing)

[zenith tundra]

even fdg can't one shoot with that. max i've seen are 5.9k crits against namaryuu. i don't think it will do much better if the opponent main is not medium

[blazing scroll]

Or you use flood dmg

[sharp wing]

Flood yrself

[meager dawn]

bb gun that can apply flood when

[sharp wing]

planes that apply flood

and planes that apply burn

[meager dawn]

so saratoga kai

[sharp wing]

no u

[zenith tundra]

aren't those barrage planes not the ones u equip?

[jagged steppe]

someone in gameplay help telling me this is that true?

[blazing scroll]

If mc clusky would apply burn

[jagged steppe]

I want rainbowgun over pr

[sharp wing]

to itself

[zenith tundra]

seems about right. u can check the research tierlist

/research

[strange moat]

Z23 Sensei

Priority ships and Research

🔹 PR ships requirements and detailed equipment guide by pootatoast#1337
🔹 Which PR ships to prioritize by Kawaii Five-O#2305
🔹 PR1 and PR2 "what to equip" and general equipment guide by Enbayft#2527
🔹 Short and detailed research tier list by cyberFluff#9161

use /tierlist for list of ships TLs and guides
use /guide for list of other gameplay guides and FAQs

[zenith tundra]

there are 2 images 1st is bps 2nd is equip

[sharp wing]

using plates for research as new player tho

[jagged steppe]

no not gonna use it

[zenith tundra]

white ones should be easy to come by tho

[jagged steppe]

just coin

or white

[sharp wing]

talking about t3 plates

[meager dawn]

screw the researches that use purple gen plates

[sharp wing]

qeq

[zenith tundra]

i would use all but general plates

[sharp wing]

gunplates tough too

[meager dawn]

oh yeah purple gun plates too

[zenith tundra]

i have more gun then planes and aa purples

[sharp wing]

I dun have gunplates

[sharp wing]

but I max many guns

cause lazy to swap

[zenith tundra]

everything i usually swap is because of pr limited

[elder crane]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12jp_v9PbojRG2PQ1SMr4y-uQASyKz_ewj-Fi4NVpjls/edit?usp=sharing

this is the one you want

[meager dawn]

I think I should stop maxing catas

[sharp wing]

lol

u need pretty few catas

[meager dawn]

gen pl.ates are pretty ded

[sharp wing]

6 should be enough

[meager dawn]

from like 10+ catas

[sharp wing]

qeq

[elder crane]

and yeah, Q projects are the best for 457 prints
followed by G projects

[blazing scroll]

Imagine having 13 +10 cata's

[sharp wing]

Decisions were made

[zenith tundra]

i need to max another 5 oxy and 8 shells to max all the ones i have

[sharp wing]

I have 1 maxed shell

dun need more

[meager dawn]

I have 6 maxed white shells

[elder crane]

11 maxed oxytorp for me is where all my gen parts are

[meager dawn]

or was it 5

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

I still have 1k gen plates so I'm good

For a little while

[sharp wing]

I dun remember having anything above 1k t3

[meager dawn]

not even your AA/torp plates?

[sharp wing]

nah

[blazing scroll]

AA and torp are like 6k+

[sharp wing]

I have like 30 533 maxed

[blazing scroll]

[meager dawn]

what

[sharp wing]

never swap gear

[blazing scroll]

Plates aren't the problem

[zenith tundra]

torp plates are useless pretty much unless u lucksac ironblood boxes. if only u could use them on oxys too

[sharp wing]

[blazing scroll]

Coins are

[sharp wing]

torpplates are never useless

150 more fletchers to go

[zenith tundra]

i never use non mag ones so i only max mag torpedoes

[sharp wing]

I only got 4 quads

[blazing scroll]

I got some 610 for EX

[sharp wing]

and 1 is on pvp

cannot do with 3 torps

have 4 fleets with torps

and I dun swap gear

[blazing scroll]

You only have 4 mag?

[sharp wing]

4 quads

[blazing scroll]

Those are quads too

[sharp wing]

and 2 rainbow

[zenith tundra]

i only have 6 quad... those boxes hate me

[sharp wing]

I farmed 2 quads...

[blazing scroll]

But for real, I have like 11 quads

[sharp wing]

boxs are a lie

wtf

[blazing scroll]

And farmed like 4

[sharp wing]

go commit unlyfe

[zenith tundra]

i don't want to farm spee event for them

[sharp wing]

not spee only tho

[zenith tundra]

i can do spee with war archive

[sharp wing]

eh

wouldn't waste time

[meager dawn]

you mean dc?

[sharp wing]

anyway

only farmed dido event cause could macro it

[zenith tundra]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Encircling_Graf_Spee#SP3

sp3 drops quads

[meager dawn]

I thought they only added major events

[elder crane]

8 quad mags for me, so

[meager dawn]

to war archives

[zenith tundra]

nah

[meager dawn]

[sharp wing]

En yes

cn/jp has more

all events eventually go in archive

and ships to perma

[meager dawn]

ok screw dc war archive

graf spee war archive when

[sharp wing]

we had rerun so

waiting WC archive tho

about a year

[zenith tundra]

if only wc had decent drop i would farm sirens for plates and equip

[meager dawn]

what did wc even have

I don't remember

[sharp wing]

WC archive for swiftsure and siri lewd2d

wc is sirius

the one they fucced up

[meager dawn]

oh yeah, the one with sheffy

[sharp wing]

on archive they add swiftsure and siri l2d

[meager dawn]

I thought they added swiftsure randomly to the light pool

[sharp wing]

nah

swiftsure is sheffy fangirl

so they made it like that

[zenith tundra]

twin 380, twin 105, seaplane, 406mk1, pom pom, printz gun, 610 quad

all the gold from wc

[sharp wing]

Only important thing is 2 event planes

Firefly and Firebrand

rest is whatever

[zenith tundra]

those aren't farmable tho so rip

[meager dawn]

You mean Glowworm plane

I don't remember the other plane's old name

[sharp wing]

not talking about farm, since there no unique gear in WC

U don't farm wc

lol

only farm was Fiji

And i got her from clearing

[zenith tundra]

people will farm for gacha shop

[sharp wing]

there no gacha shop in archive

and ships become perma

[zenith tundra]

wc still has to rerun in en

[sharp wing]

it was Rerun

lol

[meager dawn]

what is there to rerun tho

original run had the rerun stuff

[sharp wing]

WC was already rerun same as FW

[zenith tundra]

yeah it was rerun version but not run twice just like fw

[sharp wing]

it won't

it was ALREADY rerun

there nothing to RErUN

[elder crane]

we don't have a precedent for this

it's unknown if WC for us and FW for us and JP will rerun

since we directly got all rerun content for both

but haven't had a second run

[zenith tundra]

i would find it weird if they just not rerun them in some weird thing like mikasa with isss

[sharp wing]

what isss has to do with this?

lol

[meager dawn]

mikasa and isss?

[zenith tundra]

i meant 2 events at once

jp got mikasa event with isss rerun

[sharp wing]

yes

they rerun mikasa 2 or 3 times

[meager dawn]

Z flags for each ship in the backline

[sharp wing]

but mikasa is just build

Spee got 2 reruns on CN too

1st run was CN only

2nd and 3rd run were same time with JP

[zenith tundra]

spee ain't build only tho so it's not the same

[sharp wing]

Didn't say it's same tho

[shy hazel]

en is missing swiftsure for pve

[sharp wing]

that's why I want WC archive

[zenith tundra]

u can do with other stuff. her most unique thing is the evasion debuff

[sharp wing]

she reduces avi damage taken by main

tho

[zenith tundra]

there are other ships that can do that

[sharp wing]

and other ships can reduce eva

so

[zenith tundra]

but not for all hulls

[elder crane]

lol, I forgot she even has main fleet aviation damage reduction

that basically tells you what I think of that

[sharp wing]

Sendai reduces all hulls

[zenith tundra]

it's useful in w13

[sharp wing]

tho

[elder crane]

her thing is the ST evarate reduction for all hulls on a ship with good stats

Sendai is super unreliable for PvE

both low-% proc and it's only a fixed area

[sharp wing]

yeah, but still

[elder crane]

and also she's super squishy

Swiftsure is properly thicc

[zenith tundra]

her dmg is not bad too. can keep up even with gun boats

[elder crane]

yep

those stats+effs are nice

[sharp wing]

Actually only other botes that give avi damage main fleet reduction are NC and lil Sandy(small fleetwide), things like nanoda reduce all damage and many are more effective

[jagged steppe]

enterprise user be like

is it possible to sandbag to 2000 without losing 5 battle?

[sharp wing]

nah

[jagged steppe]

its like

I wake upat 1-1.5k

then get +1 +2

then before I sleep blowing all 10 stack

and back to the top

[sharp wing]

1.5k you already should of missed battles

if u sandbag

[jagged steppe]

I lose once

due gambling

[sharp wing]

well, u rush 10 before sleep, so it's half sandbag

[jagged steppe]

the problem is

I am a type of person sleep 12-16 hour per day

[zenith tundra]

depends on population of server i got down to rank 1.6-1.7k without missing any and sandbagging

[jagged steppe]

and wake up 16-21 hour per day

[sharp wing]

JP has too much population

tho

En doesn't come close, esp not Avrora servers

and even less of that pvp population

How many servers are there even on jp atm?

lol

[zenith tundra]

a lot

[meager dawn]

a lot?

[sharp wing]

20+?

[meager dawn]

1+

[zenith tundra]

17 jp

[sharp wing]

well, close

En be like 4 servers, 3 half ded

so ye

[zenith tundra]

doesn't beat 28 cn tho

[jagged steppe]

which 3 half ded

which server not dead?

[sharp wing]

Avrora

at least pvp wise

[meager dawn]

I think washy is alive

0 idea about pvp since I only want top 1k

[jagged steppe]

when I start playing this game

my friend tell me not to go avrora ch2

[meager dawn]

and I missed a bunch of attacks recently

rip 90 merits

[sharp wing]

Well, U never join top server when u join game midrun

hard to compete

[zenith tundra]

pretty much all servers are old by now

[sharp wing]

I didn't join Avrora even after only 1 month late

wash is much newer than rest

Sandy only 1 month older than avrora and lex

[zenith tundra]

by like what 3 months

[sharp wing]

Wash is 4 months newer than 1st

[zenith tundra]

it's still over 1 year old

[sharp wing]

doesn't matter

all the hardcore ppl already on top server

Sandy has ppl due to being EU and sea+Australia release server

so there decnet EU pps

and those regions

[zenith tundra]

one more reason to join avrora imo. what's the fun competing against casuals

[sharp wing]

lol

Fancy being underdog huh

[jagged steppe]

I start play 3 month ago but login screen say avrora is new server

wtf

[sharp wing]

not new

[jagged steppe]

it recommended to join avrora and have word (new)

[sharp wing]

recommended

[jagged steppe]

red new

[sharp wing]

recommended server rotate

to balance population gains

but most ppl will ask around before joining

[zenith tundra]

some servers are close in jp. not sure if they ever open

[sharp wing]

full pop

qeq

jp populaton in gachas insane lol

[sharp wing]

A skin for monthly bote

priorities man

[jagged steppe]

they dont give us promise ring on valentine

why?

oath stat works in pvp right?

[zenith tundra]

if they do is in mail where they give stuff usually

[sharp wing]

rings are never in login rewards

[zenith tundra]

they do. mostly hp is the one that gets the most out of oath since it's multiplied by 2.34 in exercises at level 120

[sharp wing]

ofc they work in pvp cause why would u have stat oath for pvp

[jagged steppe]

oath all the ship

[zenith tundra]

i'm not rich enough for that

[sharp wing]

offense buff already gives enough advantage

[ripe latch]

free ring every month

[sharp wing]

I wish

17 free rings

[coral wren]

which are the best aux gears for hood pvp?

[hot creek]

rudder, HPFCR

[coral wren]

excuse me but whats a, u know, "HPFCR"

[ripe latch]

think u not have

[elder crane]

High-Performance Fire Control Radar
Fallen Wings event equipment

[hot creek]

this thing.

[coral wren]

oh the mini tower thing

yea i dont, whats a replacement

[hot creek]

SG

[coral wren]

mm thanks

any suggestions on aux gear for akagi and kaga? ( ik they arent the best, but not having event ships are really annoying )

[zenith tundra]

check the tier list in pins for gear

[hot creek]

rudder/avgas or maybe beacon/avgas. havent really tested foxes these days

[sharp wing]

avgas on each second can be just cata

And if u have warkai better run that over hood foxes

and u can utilize 818 slow combo

[elder crane]

Yep
Either 818 on Akagi with Ryuusei on Kaga, with Kaga launching a bit behind
Or 818 on Kaga, and Akagi following up with bombs

Usually the first iirc, but dunno these days

[sharp wing]

Kaga is bad choice

kaga is torp oriented

kaga is 110 110 150

Akagi is all 125

[coral wren]

thanks guys im reading the tierlist thing

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

why ppl still put this trash on def?

[sharp wing]

To stall you

warkai w/ litt gun crits hard on shelling

just seen 3k

[ripe latch]

8.3k crit ws warkai

huh

[shell heron]

[hot creek]

yus

[shell heron]

Wait til we start having useable FdG. Next level trash

[hot creek]

Cay can appreciate Lusty

and Eldridge

[sharp wing]

Cay is the connoisseur

[shell heron]

The combination that should be meme

[sharp wing]

Cultured

[shell heron]

But memed on me

[sharp wing]

And Lusty need to have her milfy dress

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

Improved meme

[sharp wing]

I have similar, but without amagi and ryuu

And u got dress

[shell heron]

Wait, i wonder if enty will do better than ryuu?

[sharp wing]

most likely

well, they both are whatever at this point

but without Naga ryuu has like no damage

I could make like KGV Lusty QE more meme

Gotta 120 my Eldie too, she's just been sitting in dorm

Gotta put her on pvp fleet

my vg all 120 already

wasting exp

[shell heron]

She never sees use anymore, but I 120ed her anyways.

Not liking junie on this meme stall comp

[sharp wing]

use noshi

[shell heron]

Eldie and junie don't work with each other

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

Soon. 118

[sharp wing]

good enough

noshi Eldie

Dreams are made of memes

[shell heron]

That sounds more plausible. Make the VG even more tanky

[sharp wing]

or sheff eldie

but

sheff 🚮

noshi

[vague token]

use both

[sharp wing]

Shoo

[shell heron]

Who am I kidding. My sheffy is still 100

[sharp wing]

qeq

I think my not even 100

or even not mlb

🚮

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

belong same place as Nep