pvp

[karmic forum]

Whoops I missed my exercises last night

Guess like I'll just stop for this season then

[jagged steppe]

feelsgoodman

[forest lake]

Tuberculosis

[jagged steppe]

rofl

[misty garnet]

Ayanami gear?

[forest lake]

76mm/Twin 100mm, rainbow mag torps/quad gold mag torps, Bofors, Boiler x2/Boiler+Oxytorp/Oxytorp x2

[past egret]

A fellow enterprise cultist @jagged steppe

Enty is a beautiful clutch ship isn’t she

[shell heron]

@karmic forum but you gave me the +1 last night

[shy hazel]

[jagged steppe]

yes

[ripe latch]

not found siren again

[past egret]

@ripe latch I rushed to rank 2 as promised

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

Oh no. Had to refresh at 6/10

[gritty cove]

Can't afford those +8

[hot creek]

out of refreshes?

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

i lost a match yesterday after a 3d woman distracted me

so im just gonna rush all 10 of my pvp have fun sandy

[inner zenith]

3D 😂

I forgot to do pvp because work life

[past egret]

@ripe latch

You still have me?

I can move for you

[ripe latch]

u on 83 , still wait new 5 exer

[past egret]

I’m rushing now, so if you want the bonus 2 points I can rush again at the 8 pm reset

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Conspiracy

I'ma watching ya

So many wasted opportunities everywhere

[gritty cove]

Yeah no refreshes, this damn luck based game

[hot creek]

more of a waiting game

[coral wren]

wait and not sleep

[past egret]

Rush complete

Takes longer considering the only thing you find this high up on the ladder is Namagi comps

[sharp wing]

usually top is rushers/memers

and proper comps anywhere 500-1k

[shell heron]

Im lurking at 200s myself

[sharp wing]

Wait it's Friday

[shell heron]

F I moved too early. My target was still going

[sharp wing]

[gritty cove]

Waiting because Sandy is the worst place for pvp

[shell heron]

Nope would have been a +1 regardless

Only 69 points up

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

i lost 2 pvps this time

stuck at 2187

so i gave up and rushed for past 2 days

[stable dawn]

How do people get Nagato to proc 100% of the time?
Do they build luck or is it just sheer RNG?

[sharp wing]

U cannot affect proc chance

[upper sparrow]

just RNG being RNG

[stable dawn]

[shell heron]

Hmmm refresh my list or eat a +0

I refreshed. My list was pretty dead with no known pushers

[shell heron]

It's still dead. Had one person move but not enough

[high bay]

i almost lost

[past egret]

@coral wren I missed a single match + lost one so I’ve been doing the same

[coral wren]

yeah i did the same

[past egret]

Not going to lie, rusher life is kinda nice

[coral wren]

its much more relaxing

also i get to sleep early since resets for me are 1am and 7am

and theres no chance in hell i am awake before 7am

[past egret]

@ripe latch moving rn

[jagged steppe]

why are these asshole not doing pvp

like hey

[forest lake]

It's just been

1 hour

[jagged steppe]

yo

sincel ast night

[upper sparrow]

maybe they are simply just not doing pvp

[jagged steppe]

not just 1 hour

[zenith tundra]

past aotn rush most of the people that move are close to top 100

anything else is just dead lists

[shy hazel]

[shell heron]

So kiro is dead to me

And no localcat was not a +2

One point off

[vague token]

did you even ask

xD

[shy hazel]

kiro has always been dead

its just a meme spirit lying around

[vague token]

[frail orbit]

Imagine
Kiroshima as ded as Hiroshima post bombing

[shell heron]

I had no faith in you giving me +2. So you're dead to me

So is localcat and that one +9 prob that denied me my +2

[karmic forum]

The lengths people go for +1 smh

[coral wren]

?

[high bay]

imma rush my 5 runs now

[ripe latch]

@past egret not enough 1 exer

[past egret]

.>

[upper sparrow]

reach AoTN finally. bye sandbagging, its time to rush now

[shy hazel]

is that avrora

er no

haloist is like what

sandy

[hot creek]

Haloist plays on both Lexington and Sandy

[shell heron]

this was a pretty bad gensui rush

only 4 +1s on first reset and a single +1 the second

[shy hazel]

small thing

i only got 2

[shell heron]

better than last season

actual +0 rush

[empty grove]

Might turn myself into food soon

[shy hazel]

good

less pest in top 1

[empty grove]

Not for you tho

[shy hazel]

fam

you cant choose whether u be food to me or not

it will come

[empty grove]

I can if I DM the person i'm feeding

& swap to an easy fleet real quick

Then swap back

[shy hazel]

alrdy tested it what

swapping takes effect after 15 mins

takes quite time

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

before other players sees updated fleet

[empty grove]

That's arbitrary

[shy hazel]

i mean u can ask someone to test it again

lol

takes lots of effort

we did it alot early back in the game tho

[empty grove]

Nah

[shy hazel]

when my guildmates still cared about pvp

[empty grove]

I aint gonna test that stuff

[shy hazel]

hey take off your gears me nub

he had to wait 15 mins

lol

[empty grove]

[shell heron]

do it 15 minutes before reset to be extra mean

[shy hazel]

haram

[empty grove]

I wonder if anyone will even hit 2600 this season

Seems super low atm

[shy hazel]

i bet top score is 96

[hot creek]

third avgas

[vague token]

i only bought one

xD

[shell heron]

looking at the current ladder, I don't see any known EoS top 10 people

above me that is

and thats pretty bad

[shy hazel]

ik only on 29

ill probably end at top 6 or something

lazy

[keen sparrow]

[shell heron]

that's a bait

[empty grove]

Check the leaderboard first

[shell heron]

that last 2 top 10 people I got never moved next reset

[empty grove]

Also yeah

A lot of them tend to hold 10

Like a mix of insta rush & hold

[shell heron]

that's what it's looking like

they show up every other reset

we just have to learn their schedule and feed on them

[empty grove]

I'll be able to pay attention when this FGO event is done

[hot creek]

2tryhard4me

the sheep has a 5 pt lead over me

[keen sparrow]

i will move at night

[shell heron]

Whoops. Was worried about pvp matches last reset and forgot about claiming my daily missions

Rip 3 cubes

[empty grove]

That happened to me 2 days ago

[shell heron]

Its fine. I have 2069 cubes

Would have been 2072 tho...

[shy hazel]

cube slut

hey +2

another +1

run cay run

i catch u

[shell heron]

Stop it. You stay below me right now

[shy hazel]

[shrewd galleon]

how the heck do you get that many cubes??

[shy hazel]

skips collab banners

p sure

and get lucky in everything else

i doubt cay gets all ships e event

[ripe latch]

how lucky u
@
700 medals from event

[shy hazel]

good for u

i want more medals

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

When non pvp pps hear pvp talk

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

You into grannies

[forest lake]

if that's what it takes to have Grani as my waifu sure

[sharp wing]

Desperate and thirsty

[forest lake]

No u

[sharp wing]

Even goes for grannies

Skadi>Granny

[forest lake]

ye but needa give Grani some love

[shell heron]

@shy hazel but I do get all ships every event. Usually under 50 builds, sometimes much less

Damn it. Sandra is only 33 up.

I wanted that 3rd +1

[safe meteor]

is double SG radar useful for some BB in pvp?

[coral wren]

hi

back in this place

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/ba13344a2301486da7fee639ed9c88e7-png.jpg

so um

does anyone know why

nagato and amagi guns are not switched around

and why does everyone tell me to use hood gun on amagi

[safe meteor]

i guess cause Amagi proc is higher?

but, is double SG radar on a BB in pvp useful?

[elder crane]

as the "intermediate" option in dmg vs tankiness, yes

in terms of overall damage+tankiness, the top three in general are 2SG, SG+Type1, SG+Rudder
With HSCR subbing in for an SG and badge for rudder, to fit those in, same principles. (alternatively, armor plate on a medium armor ship can sub for evasion equipment)
2 Shell and Rudder+Badge are the most extreme options, and take larger penalty in eHP/eDamage than it gains in eDamage/eHP - sometimes though, a ship just never takes that much damage or needs all the tankiness it can get
Rudder+Shell is very slightly tankier than 2SG and very slightly higher average-damage than SG+Rudder, but is worse than the average of those two setup, so it's probably never worth it

[safe meteor]

how about a low luck ship though?

one that really needs the acc boost?

[elder crane]

the benefit accuracy brings for main fleet vs main fleet is not affected much by luck
for hitting enemy CL and especially DD vanguard though, yeah, low accuracy/luck ships get just as much average damage out of SG as out of shell

[zenith tundra]

the only reason why dmg would be worth over tankiness is when u care about doing pvp attempts fast. if u want to minimize resets and have better consistency higher ehp will make it easier to deal with bad rng

i don't see why i would pick a -10s pvp time per attempt when i can just afk any attempt without ever worrying about losing

[elder crane]

it's a ships thing
some ships/positions just don't take much dmg and/or you're relying on them to damage-carry
and don't forget, you need to actually kill them in the end
+10 s survivability means nothing if they live +15 s longer, you're just shooting yourself in the foot then

[zenith tundra]

i don't really care about clear time in pvp. if i can win every fight without having to look at the screen is better then sitting there to make sure i win. also dmg wont beat stronger comps where u cannot really kill stuff like fdg

anytime soon with just dmg

also remember that amagi makes ur dmg lower so it's always better to go defensive against her instead of wasting stats with shells

[sharp wing]

Was shell even in question?

Shell is warkai exclusive gear almost

it's more of double sg vs rudder options

[zenith tundra]

double sg sucks. i tested fdg with that and feels like she is not even tankier then sg rudder amagi

it's amaing for dealing dmg but if opponent has any good dmg it's not worth it

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

457 on ws even on defense makes her an actual extremely good defense ship where if u cannot tank u'll be forced to 2vs3 soon enough

[sharp wing]

FdG also a bit outstanding case, cause she has 10 less eva than Naga even

she gets much bigger values from eva than other bbs

Also lets not talk about half year ahead stuff

We won't see any Fdg or 457 till midsummer

[zenith tundra]

looking around at what kind of bps count people have expect fdg maxed in may

[sharp wing]

The bps counts are high cause there nothing to spend cubes atm

Tho I dun have spare cubes in any case

Gonna watch ppl whale for collab

[zenith tundra]

not everyone plays at the same pace. there are people who will max fdg really soon

[sharp wing]

May is not really soon

And most of big whales on Sandy dun even care much about pvp

[zenith tundra]

whatever they whale or not doesn't change the outcome

[sharp wing]

It does tho

[zenith tundra]

and may is way earlier then jully/august

[sharp wing]

August is more casual date

By then end of summer I expect good amount of em

1 extra month

ppl will catch up

[zenith tundra]

playing on a server where people don't care about pvp is not an excuse to recommend bad gear

[sharp wing]

Well, u do?

[elder crane]

I doubt it tbh
Casuals don't even know which projects are good, lol

[sharp wing]

well, I mean pvp casuals

[elder crane]

also
if you don't run at least 2SG on your fairly safe damage carry
you're going to drop matches cause you're letting enemy live longer than they should, lol

[zenith tundra]

i would never recommend double sg fdg because i can roll trough every bad namaryuu comp or anything else if i struggle against any decent defense

[elder crane]

again
sure, living 10s longer is nice
your enemy living 15s longer means it's not worth it, you need to actually kill them to win

[sharp wing]

Again you with yr FdG crap...

[zenith tundra]

it was just an example

if u don't die u also cannot lose by same logic

[sharp wing]

If u don't die and enemy don't die...

who wins then

[elder crane]

except if your enemy ends up getting more of a survivability boost from your gear selection than you, that's counterproductive

[zenith tundra]

resetting bad rng is just as bad tho

[elder crane]

except you're opening yourself up to more bad RNG, not less

[sharp wing]

no acc boost sounds like more rng

lol

[elder crane]

again, living 10 s more means nothing if they live 15s more
they're now going to win originally-lost matches cause you can't kill them

[zenith tundra]

i never said to not run any acc just shells and hsfcr are not good choices imo

[sharp wing]

Shell is almost exclusive warkai gear again...

[elder crane]

Yeah, usually shell is too much imo, nothing is really pressured that little, at least overall

[zenith tundra]

it doesn't work like that if u auto lose any 3 nagato barrages down but would win with defensive gear

[elder crane]

Warkai even only takes shell, if she even should, because she's that much of a damage carry

[zenith tundra]

all cn tierliest is full of hsfcr

[elder crane]

except maybe if you didn't run defensive aux, maybe they wouldn't make it to Nagato barraging 3 times

also who doesn't run flag defensively

that's the ship that usually takes the most heat

[zenith tundra]

the problem against nagato is not ur nagato but whoever has to carry aka hiryuu.

[sharp wing]

3 barrage nagato sounds like full defensive setup

[elder crane]

ikr
unless you no-barrage, that shouldn't happen
and if you no-barrage, you lose regardless

[sharp wing]

warkai kills nagato on around second barrage

unless u go for hiryuu 1st

[zenith tundra]

ws cannot kill nagato lol

[sharp wing]

orly

that's funny

[zenith tundra]

dunno how u snipe flag with her

pls teach me

[sharp wing]

second barrage

can u read?

[zenith tundra]

ofc i can

and whatever comp is so bad that dies 1st barrage without 457 focus too

[sharp wing]

what?

[elder crane]

We're talking before 3rd Nagato barrage

[sharp wing]

anything aside hiryuu does

[elder crane]

Which is 2nd round of Warkai

[zenith tundra]

do people really don't use any defensive gear in en

[sharp wing]

defensive gear doesn't save you

period

and don't start FdG crap again

[zenith tundra]

offensive gear also doesn't really win either

[sharp wing]

if u think so

[zenith tundra]

i never met a comp that could beat me by share dmg instead of outlasting me

[sharp wing]

You don't even play in En environment

[zenith tundra]

so what is special about en environment?

what is it that makes dmg more worth in en then jp?

[sharp wing]

lack of pr2 stuff

[zenith tundra]

the only comp that wins by dmg focus is not even possible in en

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

so i guess azuma is so strong that can carry so hard

[sharp wing]

In current En state u get about parity, and offense buff ensures win w/ offense focus

[zenith tundra]

or is it that en loses vg battles without seattle gun

[sharp wing]

seattle gun has nothing to do much w/ vg fights at all

[zenith tundra]

if u think so

[sharp wing]

there no ships that use it, aside backline

[zenith tundra]

backlines is what i mean

[safe meteor]

i got FdG to dev11, how far are you guys?

[vague token]

people have seattle gun?

gimme

[safe meteor]

9/50 on that

[sharp wing]

that's not seattle

[vague token]

my sheffield needs one

[safe meteor]

oh the other gun

[sharp wing]

seattle gun is CL gun

[vague token]

[safe meteor]

oh you said seattle

[vague token]

yes

xD

[safe meteor]

im 22/25 now on that HE CL gun

[sharp wing]

I have 0 bps of 457 yet

[vague token]

that is big oof

[sharp wing]

that is life

[vague token]

i have 7

xD

[sharp wing]

I'm still not done w/ event build, so dun have spare credits too

[safe meteor]

a friend of mine is at 10/50

you do 1200 oil commissions?

[hot creek]

I saw a guy who thought the ssr 4hr/10cube project is good project. At the same time he said 1hr/3cube project is not worth it

[sharp wing]

[safe meteor]

havent tried the cube research projects that much

[sharp wing]

I never have spare coobs

[hot creek]

the casuals really have no idea what researches are good or not.

[safe meteor]

i finally got a decent spare amount

[sharp wing]

|Not done w/ this build and collab is due

[safe meteor]

506

got all ships from this event

[sharp wing]

need lots of credits too

[safe meteor]

credits = gold?

[sharp wing]

well, ye

[safe meteor]

you do 1200 oil commissions?

[sharp wing]

twice a day

[hot creek]

I wonder how many rainbow gun hooloo has right now. I remember he had a large headstart at the beginning from being lucky.

[vague token]

credits? someone playing too much AK

never enough credits

[sharp wing]

I play 5 games...

[safe meteor]

oof

[sharp wing]

Need universal terms

I dropped one, was 6

[safe meteor]

money

[sharp wing]

[safe meteor]

currency?

stuff

[sharp wing]

lewd stuff

[safe meteor]

cash

but anyway

does FdG need to be at least dev30 for pvp?

or when is she battleready?

[vague token]

you can use her earlier as Tank

but that's it

xD

[safe meteor]

tank vs Warkai or something?

[sharp wing]

and Tiamat is bae

[safe meteor]

so dev25?

whats bae?

[sharp wing]

dev 30 or go home pretty much

dev 25 still 2 mg and lower eff

[safe meteor]

not even the boost from skill and stats compensate?

[sharp wing]

just a meatwall

[safe meteor]

(also whats bae, Sagittary?)

a meatwall good enough vs enemy Warkai?

[sharp wing]

bae = baby, sweetie etc.

[safe meteor]

ok

[sharp wing]

well, u can just wall warkai w/ hiryuu

[safe meteor]

thats what i do now

Hiryuu with VH armor

[sharp wing]

and do more damage then underdev fdg

[safe meteor]

does HIryuu?

FdG does some dmg vs vanguard though

[vague token]

i mean hiryuu does some damage to vanguard too

[safe meteor]

maybe i gonna start testing from dev25, to see if its already battle ready

dev11... a long way......

and you guys?

[sharp wing]

Focusing on "My wife" 1st anyway, she is pretty much ata-go at dev 15 if u have her gun

[safe meteor]

project only gives me 1-2ish every time

i got her gun, and i get too many spare BP

[sharp wing]

I dun have her gun yet

[safe meteor]

i want to work on FdG faster, since Azuma prob hits dev15 soon enough

cant resist FdG

[sharp wing]

There not much point to rush FdG

[hot creek]

I should be able to have maxed FDG and Azuma by the end of May if things stay on track.

[sharp wing]

it's not somehting as gamechanging

[safe meteor]

but its fun

[sharp wing]

Azuma on o0ther hand...

[safe meteor]

when is she a gamechanger?

dev15, or dev25?

[sharp wing]

When she is on field

[safe meteor]

over like Neptune/saint louis

[sharp wing]

well, nep and buki are already whatever tbh

i prefer buki/noshi

[safe meteor]

i havent used Buki much

[zenith tundra]

25 with nagato. without she kind of need dev 30 to be broken

[safe meteor]

im missing Amagi though

[zenith tundra]

her dmg without nagato fails a bit

[safe meteor]

do got Nagato

[sharp wing]

well, running nagato just for zooma is pepega

[safe meteor]

oh also, that gear for acc + spd is useful on Azuma now?

[zenith tundra]

gyro is bis for her yes

[safe meteor]

that the first time its useful

or was there any other ship to ever use this?

[zenith tundra]

it'a just a boiler tbh only difference is that the hp does little on her since her huge base hp pool

[sharp wing]

acc not as important as HP for other vgs

[safe meteor]

so we getting the next event soon?

idols eh?

[sharp wing]

collab next

[safe meteor]

oh really

so meme ships

[sharp wing]

2 builds back to back

[safe meteor]

the uwawa something collab?

[zenith tundra]

it's not a collab btw

[sharp wing]

no

[safe meteor]

oh

[sharp wing]

utaware is not on EN

[zenith tundra]

it's just an event with muse ships

[safe meteor]

thats what i thought

[zenith tundra]

al cannot collab with al

[sharp wing]

it's collab with band

[safe meteor]

any useful ship coming?

or meme

[zenith tundra]

yeah but the ships are just different versions of originals.

[sharp wing]

but it's collab

[safe meteor]

what is music note ammo though?

[zenith tundra]

just a different type of ammo

[sharp wing]

saying collab is not collab...

[zenith tundra]

again the ships aren't collab caracters

[safe meteor]

do we get the utaware collab ever though?

[sharp wing]

they are "collab characters" tho

[safe meteor]

more meme ships

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

gotta get the other sheffield for all the shields

plus she can shield herself

[ripe latch]

see 3 akagi's soon on pvp

[safe meteor]

right

triple cleveland maybe too?

[sharp wing]

Some collabs also only have skins, not even unique ships

some collabs only have cosmetics/dorms

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

so what are the muses from. i don't recall "muse" gascogne from anything else

[safe meteor]

WOW?

[sharp wing]

cause it doesn't exist anywhere else

[zenith tundra]

that's gascogne not muse gascogne

[ripe latch]

sheffield muse only uses on fleet?

[zenith tundra]

so it's not a collab but an al thing

[sharp wing]

It is collab...

starter ships have collab skins for example

they exist only on AL

and collab cosmetics/dorm

exclusive collab ingame stuff

[ripe latch]

2 sheffield on fleet

[vague token]

if only we werent locked into juneau

[sharp wing]

collab doesn't need to have a character from some other game or whatever

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

id run sheff/noshiro/sheff u

xD

or maybe azuma/noshiro/sheff u

[sharp wing]

azuma noshiro buki

[vague token]

since sheff u works on any ship

[zenith tundra]

so far all collab had characters from other stuff that's why they where collabs

[ripe latch]

2 sheffield and azuma

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[vague token]

you wouldnt use regular sheff with azuma

you cant get her hp high enough

xD

[sharp wing]

no, lol

[ripe latch]

p r o t e c t

[vague token]

only muse can shield azuma

[zenith tundra]

sheffield muse works with azuma the other cannot

[sharp wing]

so far half collabs didn't have characters

I already told you

[zenith tundra]

which ones?

[safe meteor]

like which one?

[sharp wing]

starter ship skins for example

[zenith tundra]

those are skins not collab events WTF

[sharp wing]

those are collabs

You just don't get it

and this collab have exclusive version of ships

[zenith tundra]

all collab events had collab ships

[sharp wing]

not all, again...

[zenith tundra]

which event didn't?

[sharp wing]

I already told...

[zenith tundra]

skins aren't events tho

[sharp wing]

not all events have ships in them

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Bilibili_8th_Anniversary
https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Stardust

[elder crane]

Also Lawson

[sharp wing]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Niconico_Collaboration

lawson collab had 2 DDs

with numbers

[elder crane]

nah

that's bilibili

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Lawson_Collab

[sharp wing]

ah second bili collab

ye

there many collabs without ships...

[elder crane]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Armored_Trooper_Votoms

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

they all didn't have any ships involved too unlike polaris

[sharp wing]

But they ARE collabs

[past egret]

[zenith tundra]

so are u saying that polaris won't be rerun?

[sharp wing]

If they treat as collab no

[zenith tundra]

so only time will tell whatever is a collab or not

[sharp wing]

each ship basically represent band memeber

[elder crane]

Basically

[safe meteor]

ah right, those collab things

[elder crane]

For some, like Bilibili, I expect collab rerun (only for CN again though)

[sharp wing]

what is even the band

[elder crane]

Since Bilibili is kiiinda, y'know, the CN publishing platform for AL

[zenith tundra]

this doesn't look like any muse ships

[elder crane]

it'd be weird if that never reran

[ripe latch]

@past egret

[past egret]

[elder crane]

tbf that's true
collection treats muses like the loli ships, which makes sense

[sharp wing]

loli

[past egret]

@ripe latch ur in game name is same as discord name Ja?

[ripe latch]

ja

[past egret]

I’m going to hunt you

[zenith tundra]

which means they can be rerun and also not collab ships or event

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

unless ships aren't related to event

[sharp wing]

I don't see it ever gets rerun tho, cause there no other band members

Unless they add like producer-chan

[zenith tundra]

gascogne muse in actual collection

since pr gascogne is in pr section

[elder crane]

I don't see why muse ships won't be rerun/added like the lolified ships were

[sharp wing]

Well, loli stuff might work for rerun

but it's kinda pepega

[zenith tundra]

they just add them to perma if no rerun

like loli belfast

[sharp wing]

or just recurring event thing, like Mikasa 3 or 4 reruns on CN

with no new contents

collab skins do get reruns tho

[vague token]

but did mikasa rerun come with more zflags

[zenith tundra]

i think all of them have entries in the collection so they will be rerun at some point unless al decides that collection % ships are 1 time only

[sharp wing]

if it's mission clear reward

[ripe latch]

@past egret

[sharp wing]

should be treated same as medal I think

[past egret]

I treat Polaris ships as medals

[vague token]

wow, friend list

[past egret]

Not even worthy of taking up dock space

[vague token]

forgot that existed

[past egret]

Just like global chat and guilds

[sharp wing]

lol

hey, global chat is ok

just need to pick proper room

[vague token]

i need to add more people on AK for the clues

[sharp wing]

qeq

my list is full

Some ppl I add even find me and DM for clue exchange, lol

[past egret]

Washington is comprised of:
Room 1: normal
Room 2: normal but azur lane general degeneral
Room 3: nod cultists
Room 4: roleplayers
Room 5: Russians
Rooms 6+: no mans land

[ripe latch]

room 99

[sharp wing]

Sandy only normal room is r4

r3 is lolicons and other degens
r1-2 are plebs r7 cykablyat

[elder crane]

Avrora r4 used the be the crazies

but then mods basically shut it down

[sharp wing]

mods???

mods in general

damn, need to treat r3 to some mods

[past egret]

Mods don’t exist in game besides intern and actual Yostar manju staff who can access accounts

Although r2 and r1 think im a mod on washington lol

[sharp wing]

maybe they looked into game chat on 1st server a bit after release

AotN get

time for chill

[elder crane]

idk, r4 Avrora is literally the room you go to if you want to get chatbanned

[sharp wing]

lol

[past egret]

Once you fall out of a rank such as AoTN, once you get back into it you don’t get the rewards again right

Until next season

[elder crane]

Nope

[sharp wing]

rewards once per rank up per season

[elder crane]

also nobody rushed in Avrora this reset, easy temp r1 get

[zenith tundra]

do u get banned for doing what?

[sharp wing]

On Sandy I only know of 1 person getting banned

[elder crane]

anything at all, basically

[sharp wing]

but it was extreme racist stuff

[elder crane]

or in the case of a few unfortunate people

basically just existing

[sharp wing]

lol

[elder crane]

Assman has been on chatban for like, what, 3 months now, lol
a week or two at a time

[sharp wing]

only chatban

I know account bans

[elder crane]

I wouldn't know about account bans, for obvious reasons

[zenith tundra]

account ban for chatting?

[elder crane]

unless it was someone I knew outside of AL

[past egret]

I’ve seen intern wipe the plague of NakaDashi nod bots

[sharp wing]

for spouting some things on chat continuously

[past egret]

Only bans I’ve seen

[zenith tundra]

if they treat them like bots i can see it

but normal people seems weird

[sharp wing]

Well, sandy pps should of heard about Shill

That's like only person I know ever got banned cause of chat

Also he just made alt accs and continued the crap

[zenith tundra]

if someone is dumb enough to get banned for chatting they actually deserve it

[past egret]

Especially if it’s from the horrendous report system in game

[sharp wing]

He did it deliberately and on purpose

[hot creek]

I remember dat guy. Uninspired troll who just spammed racist stuff. But people keep feeding him so I guess he just keeps doing it.

[vague token]

there's a report system? owo

[sharp wing]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

how do u not know about it? people complain all the time about it

[vague token]

[zenith tundra]

[hot creek]

Im surprised I havent gotten a chatban from spamming headnods yet.

[sharp wing]

Gotta report you next time I see

[hot creek]

Although I do get a lot of threats of ppl blacklisting/blocking me. So I guess they just do that.

[sharp wing]

I got yr friend blacklisted only

Headnod

Soulmates

[hot creek]

Headnod was a good man. Often saw him Headnodding and I'd join in.

[sharp wing]

why "was"

Finally banned>

[granite flame]

.

people actually get punished for chat offenses in game?

[sharp wing]

yeah

sometmes

For severe cases

[hot creek]

He quit a long time ago. Logged it for a little bit when Neptune xmas skin came out but thats it.

[sharp wing]

huh

I have few ppl in guild in other game who quit Al too anyway

[hot creek]

I wanted to quit before PR2 but research is fun. Its like a constant slot machine

[past egret]

I was going to quit but after hearing a confirmed guild update eventually and dreams of guild wars I decided to keep going

[hot creek]

Maybe im just addicted

[zenith tundra]

if u can avoid spending money is not that bad

[karmic forum]

Confirmed guild update?

As in they will update it but we don't know when?

[zenith tundra]

maybe before they close servers as last resort thing

[glacial shuttle]

Nakaga usually can't handle Namaryuu?

[elder crane]

If it's a proper enemy setup, it's a low-% fight

aka likely to need a few resets, possibly needs many resets

and right at the most critical moment, makes you reset a dozen times
or so it feels for these sorts of matchups

[hot creek]

Try Wakaga or Amakaga

[hot creek]

PogChamp

PogChamp x2

[ripe latch]

[hot creek]

weird how matchmaking works sometimes.

[vague token]

[ripe latch]

better then 4 ppl with namaryu

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

Grannies

[forest lake]

Saggy tits

[sharp wing]

[zenith tundra]

should the new aa gun be included in the tier list? i was thinking as an alternative for cl in general when aa isn't need or only 1 cv on defense

[forest lake]

I think you should

[sharp wing]

obviously when there no CVs you can stick it on any DD/CL

[forest lake]

Wait how many FP does it give again

15?

[sharp wing]

yes

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[forest lake]

[zenith tundra]

still better then 0 against a full bb team

[forest lake]

True

[sharp wing]

15 fp is actually a lot from non gun source

considering nanoda has 68 fp at 120

[forest lake]

I'll prolly stick it on Nep later

[frail orbit]

Me depends tbh

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

Except for Zoomer

Perhaps on XX slot

[sharp wing]

zooma needs acc

[forest lake]

STAAG on Zoomer would do much better

[frail orbit]

Zoomer needs STAAG indeed

Or Hazemeyer

Crafted 1

[sharp wing]

haze is meh

[frail orbit]

Trials keks

[sharp wing]

well, if there no cv will work

[frail orbit]

At least

MUH 6 STAAGS KEKS

[sharp wing]

If u have 6 staags why u use haze

Also, on staag/haze acc is actually additional stat pool and they still retain their 45 AA as other gold aas

[frail orbit]

@sharp wing crafted 1 for the lulz

[sharp wing]

while on new aa 15 fp is part of standard pool

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

so u get 30 aa

well, it will still see some use, cause u will have like 4 staags on pvp fleet

2+haze for pve

I might need 5 staags for pvp for 3bb azuma buki noshiro fleet

And I only got 4

[frail orbit]

I'd argue that 134 aa for any notables AAtlantas and Didos tho

Aside from my reservation on PVE for gunbotes

[sharp wing]

that thing is mostly for gundds

[zenith tundra]

the problem would be then that u cripple ur best aa ship damage to planes

[sharp wing]

fp will have greater effect for dd and big reload will soften penalty

putting lower reload aa on high reload bote also has less effect

[zenith tundra]

134 dps is really low compared to the other guns

[frail orbit]

Well

It's not like

There's a noticeable gunbote DD on pvp r8?

[sharp wing]

we talking about pve i thought

cause atlanta

[zenith tundra]

there are 2 dd in pvp and 1 is a meme while the other needs tons of AA due to low base stat

[sharp wing]

when there no cvs u just slap 76 and 134 on nanoda and call it a day tho

[zenith tundra]

wouldn't 100 be better then?

[frail orbit]

I said, gunbote DD tho

Not torp DD

[zenith tundra]

it has much higher gun dmg then 76

[sharp wing]

barrage > gundps

[vague token]

outside of sandy xD

pew pew

[sharp wing]

san dy has 2 barrages

[vague token]

or maybe z23

and her 175 eff

kek

[zenith tundra]

well it kind of defeats the purpose of 134 then. better off putting on juneau then

[sharp wing]

fp boosts barrage qeq

[frail orbit]

Just slap SiriuSanDido kek

Imagine

[vague token]

i always wanted to try seattle gun z23

[frail orbit]

DD gun not for DD

[sharp wing]

siri dido

[frail orbit]

But for CLs

[vague token]

largest cl efficiency i think

[sharp wing]

1 mount tho

[vague token]

unless there was someone else with more

[frail orbit]

Still scuttle gun wtf on nimi

[vague token]

yeah but biiiig number

for memes

xD

[sharp wing]

just run 136

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

or 138

what is it

[frail orbit]

[vague token]

if only i had extra

[sharp wing]

138.6

[frail orbit]

FOK OFF

[vague token]

my mle is on balti atm

[frail orbit]

AM NO 138

SKIPPING IRIS

[upper sparrow]

[sharp wing]

u qeq

commit unlyfe

[frail orbit]

NU U

[sharp wing]

use event china gun

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

it second dps after mle

[frail orbit]

Ye have been using it anyway

No pew pew blingy gold tho

OCD shit keks

[sharp wing]

more barrage friendly

but needs good barrage in 1st palce

[frail orbit]

I'd prefer twin 100 tho

For extra pew pew pew

[sharp wing]

china gun good balance between gundps and barrage

tho 100mmnot that far in dps

[frail orbit]

Nu

Soviet gun

[sharp wing]

100mm only shit vs heavy armor

[zenith tundra]

@elder crane could u do noshiro equip and description in tier list? i still haven't maxed her to test

[frail orbit]

Anyway

Imagine

Using LonKai in PVP

Only to watch

[karmic forum]

I'm imagining it

[frail orbit]

London Bridge is falling down

Falling down

Falling down

[sharp wing]

U dun need to imagine it, just look at Kiro

[frail orbit]

Kiro, how'dya feel about London Bridge falling down?

[zenith tundra]

if she could survive it would be something. but i have no clue about that

[sharp wing]

She is not as bad as wichita admittedly, but still

[frail orbit]

Well for once

Diff stats

Diff rarity too

[sharp wing]

rarity in base is same

[frail orbit]

Also megane + bigger boobs + gothic lolita

Ehh u would want her in her retro anyway

[sharp wing]

Well, wichita boobs about same...

[frail orbit]

No retro London is meh

But but

Gothic lolita UwU

[sharp wing]

And she flash her underwear

"lolita"

part is off

cause "boobs"

[frail orbit]

Just me being HMS fag or IJN/ROCN oriental fag keks

[sharp wing]

Retro adds her 15 eva tho

[frail orbit]

Still not enuff admittedly

Since

[sharp wing]

and about 300 health

82 eva for CA is damn nuts

[frail orbit]

No CAs could do around the same as the PRs keks

But but

[sharp wing]

but she is "light"

so qeq

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

a worse CL

in survivability

[frail orbit]

Blame UK for being piss poor anyway

And so law abiding

[sharp wing]

Blame US for giving japs 80% of their oil

[frail orbit]

To the point all these shit only for teas

[sharp wing]

pre ww2

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

Hey, the UK still owed the US a ton for WW1

[sharp wing]

US owes europe for even existing anyway

[frail orbit]

Yeah that being the reason they're piss poor anyway

[elder crane]

That and the great depression

[sharp wing]

there no even such nation tbh

[elder crane]

Japan was all like,
"Can't have a recession if your economy isn't good enough to begin with"
And then went and invaded china to kickstart their industrialization

[sharp wing]

it's hilarious so what tiny island country managed to achieve going against continent

[frail orbit]

To be fair tho

Qings being so incompetent

[elder crane]

China was extremely fractured at that point, pretty much all regional warlords

[frail orbit]

@elder crane china is always fractured anyway

[sharp wing]

china is everywhere tho

[elder crane]

Ehh, more the exception than the rule

[sharp wing]

[frail orbit]

And as for Russkie

Bolshevik

Avrora

[elder crane]

You get a few decades of fracture, then centuries of central governance usually

[frail orbit]

@elder crane looking at how tf post Han shit is shit

[sharp wing]

pr3 russian bias when

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

Which interestingly, the nationalist revolution is why Japan was militaristic

[keen sparrow]

i miss my tix x2 oversleep

[elder crane]

There was a power struggle in Japan before then between business/economic growth faction and nationalist military faction

[frail orbit]

Not army vs navy but still

[zenith tundra]

is nep dmg this low usually?

[elder crane]

And Sun Yat Sen managed to get the former on board with one of his failed revolutions

[frail orbit]

Just d30 my nod so

[elder crane]

Which greatly decreased that faction's power

[zenith tundra]

mine is dev 30 only too

[elder crane]

Nep isn't particularly high dmg

[sharp wing]

nep is just roach

[elder crane]

Pretty sure that's fairly typical

[frail orbit]

Nah I meant am only d30ed her recently

Very recently

An hour ago

[keen sparrow]

mine dev 29 alwys deal around 10k+

[frail orbit]

Alongside blazumo

[sharp wing]

10k is meh tho

nanoda beats 11k regularly

[keen sparrow]

[sharp wing]

Bel usually 12k+

[frail orbit]

Nep basically worse cl zombie nanoda

[sharp wing]

proper bote like buki...

[zenith tundra]

is this not fine for dps test?

[frail orbit]

[keen sparrow]

my bel alwys dead first

[elder crane]

Nep, like bel or similar, only do decent dmg if they get to torp enemy main fleet

[keen sparrow]

10s dead with torp meme

[frail orbit]

No 2 magtorps?

[elder crane]

Nep does have the advantage of being fairly tanky, but that's about it

[frail orbit]

Seriously

[sharp wing]

bel do good vg pressure

[elder crane]

Not really

BB secondaries do much more, even

[frail orbit]

Well duh

[sharp wing]

cause bb fp duh

[frail orbit]

BB FP

[sharp wing]

lol

[frail orbit]

[sharp wing]

IF bel manages to torp enemy main, that's already not regular 12k on vg

[elder crane]

I mean
I suppose Bel VG pressure isn't shit
But she doesn't reach CA levels even

[zenith tundra]

i'll give bel a test too with 134 seattle gun setup

[frail orbit]

CA being heavy cruiser tho

That's not

[sharp wing]

only CA that does damage is buk anyway

[frail orbit]

cries in Sanrui fs5

[elder crane]

Louis does fairly well too

[frail orbit]

[elder crane]

Azuma though just laughs at everyone, ofc

[frail orbit]

Duh

[sharp wing]

azuma BC

[frail orbit]

Different level

Asszuma

[sharp wing]

U azz

[elder crane]

Noshiro also does more, but that's more her living forever than having particularly good DpS

[forest lake]

[zenith tundra]

full light armor vg sandy juneau yuki

[keen sparrow]

4.8 crit torpedo buki

[elder crane]

Yep, basically

[frail orbit]

No comment as for noshi since havent even 120ed her

[elder crane]

Not all that impressive

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze stalling my vg for like 10sec alone

[sharp wing]

are u running against azuma?

[elder crane]

He just said the team, lol

[sharp wing]

and do u tank with X?

[elder crane]

Also you can tell it's Jun lead, lol

[zenith tundra]

my belfast was still alive by the end

[elder crane]

Scorecard position

[zenith tundra]

it was namagi ws backlines

[sharp wing]

idk, my Bel very rarely do below nanoda

rthat needs some really shit rng

[elder crane]

Idk, in my experience, minus steamrolls, bel doesn't do too much

[zenith tundra]

seattle gun not worth it? maybe

[sharp wing]

Bel basically does everything

[elder crane]

Torp ships are always going to have inflated dmg if you win hard
Especially fragile ones

[frail orbit]

I'd rather refer to shit RNG anyway

[elder crane]

Bel isn't fragile, but when it comes down to tough fights, she's pretty much always 2nd last after Jun unless ykkz gets sniped early by bad RNG or if she gets sniped early by bad RNG

[frail orbit]

Whataya expect anyway

XX slot always dies anyway if not named Asszuma or Ibukek or Sanrui (assuming u gung ho on 50s)