pvp

[sharp wing]

But FdG is only good at dev 30 and it takes half a year if u dun whale for cubes and otherresources

with resets you can beat them with any decent comp

[untold wharf]

okay fair

[sharp wing]

Azuma more important tbh

[untold wharf]

so what do u think i should do

commit to wfc or wait

[sharp wing]

The question is do you really want to do statoath and regret it later when ships fall out of meta?

or just oath for waifu

You don't need oath to win pvp too

cause offense gets 20% damage reduction buff

[untold wharf]

orly

oh damn okay then

[sharp wing]

so even if u face oathed fleet, you have advantage

[untold wharf]

okay sick

i think ill just save my rings then lool, i have 5 i was planning to use on a pvp fleet but yeh

[sharp wing]

Thing like FdG still take VERY big advantage from oath

[untold wharf]

yea

[sharp wing]

cause their bloated Hp pool and HP pvp multipliers

2.34 hp multiplier in 120 pvp

• 6% extra from oath and 200 aff

[untold wharf]

😳

[sharp wing]

Health in PvP is multiplied by 0.9 + 0.012 * level

[untold wharf]

ooh i see

[vague token]

fdg and suruga get like enough hp to survive another set of shells usually

extra thicc

[sharp wing]

How about extra set of planes

[vague token]

i mean, not all the ryuusei

but you might live through just crash rng

depending on how many hit each main

xD

[ionic magnet]

wfc is not going out of meta anytime soon
zack already tested that comp vs namagi+fdg

just oath them so they dont look like plebs

@untold wharf

[vague token]

make sure to rename them to confuse people

;)

[sharp wing]

And you still look like pleb.

Cool kidz uze meme def

[untold wharf]

@ionic magnet you think thats a gud idea?

[ionic magnet]

ofc

unless you wanna wait another half year

for nagato

[untold wharf]

lol fair enuf

why is warkai recommended over like monarch or DoY

[ionic magnet]

warkai has the highest dmg output rn

[sharp wing]

Nagato is 3 months

[ionic magnet]

doubt it

[sharp wing]

And oathing for pvp is pretty meh

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't oath for pvp. oath ships u like

[ionic magnet]

amagi is already delayed too

[vague token]

warkai also has the most consistent damage because of her target mark

[zenith tundra]

i oath for pvp and is a waste of money

[untold wharf]

hmm

but if wfc is just as good as namagifdg i have no reason to wait?

[sharp wing]

Amagi is global rerun

[ionic magnet]

only on offense but yea not like def matters now

[sharp wing]

FC def is basically meme

[untold wharf]

you say now as if it will in the future?

[sharp wing]

nothing related to exercises will ever matter

[zenith tundra]

some defensive comps are actually not that easy to beat but almost all of them rely on fdg

[sharp wing]

And FdG will not be a thing on En for half a year

[ripe latch]

ihr + beaver best vs nakaga

[ionic magnet]

what dev are your fdgs now

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

on what beaver rudder is best?

[vague token]

at least he's getting yat sen oath skin

;)

[ripe latch]

1 owari da = rip

[sharp wing]

Which looks worse than vanilla

yat sen has most broken buff, too bad stats gib chinawall much

yat sen buff beats Amagi in brokenness

30% evarate

[ionic magnet]

@untold wharf thing with wfc is
namaryuu/namagiws aren't a problem at all
will namagi fdg be a problem? maybe a bit lower winrate but not to the point where you need 5 or more resets to beat them so yea

[zenith tundra]

buff itself maybe but what u buff is more important then the buff itself

[sharp wing]

that's what i'm talking about

buff wasted on those stats

[untold wharf]

oic okay

thanks guys

[sharp wing]

5 resets is pepega you know

hope Azuma carry

U don't get 5 resets with lvling ships

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

u actually almost dun reset with 1 lvling ship in namagi + lvling or junie nanoda + lvling

[ripe latch]

not found hooloo on top100

[sharp wing]

time to rush

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

top100 on first day is

[sharp wing]

rush or go home

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

I still have 0 bonus

[ripe latch]

supreme leader

[sharp wing]

Shinano > Naga

But shinano didn't wake up till event ended?

Superheavy carrier

much oppai and thicc

Al gets shinano, but no Yamato

[ionic magnet]

another loli for sure

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

Commit unlyfe.

[ripe latch]

typical boobs carrier

[sharp wing]

Yet to see Indomitable

The best sister

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

"improved" in every aspect

Will they also make her dark Vicky

Or she will be outstanding

Inb4 lolibote

[ionic magnet]

i dont mind some oppai loli

[sharp wing]

Oh, ^ needs oath skin yet

Cygnet is enough oppai loli for HMS anyway

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

In all possible way too

from bikini to kimono

devs really liked her

[hoary pasture]

georgia pretty good in pvp?

[ripe latch]

[hoary pasture]

no?

y not

[ripe latch]

with formi and cent think

[vague token]

the only thing georgia would be good at is blowing azuma out of the water with her damage mod and barrage, but she doesnt really have much else going for her

she isnt like amazingly tanky like fdg

just the usual eagle bb aa

if she could consistently barrage the backline she'd be good though

SHS + 20% vs bbs

xD

[zenith tundra]

i'm not sure georgia can even hit vg with barrage

unless it doesn't use speed

in which case half barrage does 0 dmg

[vague token]

it would make more sense if the SHS part had a weight priority

and the pellets just rained randomly on vg

[zenith tundra]

it hits half vg half main

[sharp wing]

and enemy vg is far from their main in pvp

[vague token]

if only wiki had pvp gifs

xD

[sharp wing]

cn wiki at least has pve gifs

en wiki cannot even make proper planes table

dege don't know what half plane stats do

[hot creek]

degEN

degEN

[sharp wing]

Used all refreshes and get 20-30 lvl lists all time

[lean geode]

trying out a new team this season

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Don't give Kiro meme ideas

[vague token]

no reason for me to use suruga over amagi if i only have one

plus i already have my meme planned

[lean geode]

I don’t have Amagi or nagato so trying suruga out

I wish her first barrage was guaranteed

she really needs it to be effective

[sharp wing]

guaranteed barrages would be broken

You will have fun time watching yr Nagato 0 proc enemy nagato 3 procs too

If u ever get her

[vague token]

they should have just made it ijn fdg barrage

10 second cd, triggers on being hit/proximity

since she is a tank type

[sharp wing]

She is pepega type

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

3 ijn ships without nagato buff
nani wtf

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

i cant even move from 8/10

level 88 and 109 just not using any pvps at all

guess they dont do pvp

[forest lake]

8h maint

Needa rush everything

Feelsbadman

[coral wren]

he moved

rushing always makes me feel bad, especially on first or second day

when you can get +5s or so

[hot creek]

Season start doesn't matter

[ripe latch]

degEN

[coral wren]

you can maintain a +10 or so advantage on sandy if you stay at 5/10 all the time

at least

id say season start does matter quite a bit

especially on the dead pvp that we have

i find myself getting +1 per 5 attempts most of the time late season

i made it to 2200 by 3 points and didnt lose or miss a single attempt last season

[frail orbit]

DAHM NOT SURUGUYANG PLS

I meant
That surupepega looks like suruga as kuyang smhw

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

10 more minutes and no decently high levels on my list

[sharp wing]

Only got 1 bonus

in season

[shell heron]

144 start

[finite valve]

134

not like i started caring about pvp anymore anyway

[hot creek]

how about starting with 118 (one game down)

and still managing to get r1 on sandy

[coral wren]

well i just lost a pvp since i waited to try to sandbag and went 6/10 to 10

-all my sandbagging so far

time to rush all the time

[zenith tundra]

1 early match lost barely matters

[coral wren]

i also have to rush to 0/10 anyway on a night time

im usually in bed before this reset

getting to 2200 is a pain anyway

top 50 is much more relaxing

ill see how far i get just rushing

[zenith tundra]

u can sandbag only when active

don't need to do it all the time

[coral wren]

good early start meant i could be lazy

[keen sparrow]

+3 point x2 is yuumy
i save 4/10 for lunch time

[finite valve]

atm sang bag is purely for eos top 10

you can reach aotn even if you don't sand bag

just remember to only use 5 tries per reset

[coral wren]

thats the problem i have to use one 10 reset every day because of shity time zones

[keen sparrow]

arknight sometime make me forget doing excer

[finite valve]

AK = AL killer confirm 2020

[keen sparrow]

[finite valve]

don't worry fam they got you

AL 2 2020

[coral wren]

i was on 127 with 1 exercise left

[zenith tundra]

i would still play al over al 2. who wants to start from 0 again

[coral wren]

yeah i only started azur lane because i started close to launch

i cant even imagine starting over from now

[zenith tundra]

people with already 120+ dr bps.. how many cubes do u even need for that

[past egret]

AK is purely single player

Can’t even have unique names

No thanks

[shell heron]

I prob have enough to spam cube projects like that

but I like seeing my stash go up to unreasonably high numbers

[hot creek]

according to my estimates, a 4-5 daily cube defecit since PR2 came gets me around 6 DR a day.

[zenith tundra]

unless u get unlucky and even cube researches don't drop dr bps

[hot creek]

well, sometimes you get lucky so it sort of balances it out lol

and 1hr/3cube research is common enough imo. DR droprate on those is probably around 40%, rough estimate.

I guess it depends on how active you are as well

[zenith tundra]

i've been doing them but recently i haven't got anything from them

[coral wren]

i have around 70 fdg and around 50-60 azuma then around 100~ of all the others

yeah i noticed that 1 hour cube one does give out a hell of a lot of prints

the coin ones not so much

the 1:30 coin didnt even give me a single print once

[zenith tundra]

1:30 no bps happened to me like 2 times in the last 2 days

[coral wren]

yeah im rarely going to do that one at the minimum the focused 2:30 one

[hot creek]

I don't even expect prints when it comes to the 1.5hr/1500coin ones. I just see them as a decent refresher when there are no 1hr ones. Surpringly, most of my DR prints actually come from non cube projects.

[zenith tundra]

faces is how i've been getting dr drops (the guaranteed ones ofc)

[coral wren]

yeah i try to just do faces or the 3 cube comm

[tulip zinc]

how bad would portkai/noshiro/ykk be as a vg with warkai, enterprise, and hood

[hot creek]

I can't give you an exact answer for that but maybe WSk and Enty might be able to carry with enough resets. Are they all lvl 120?

[tulip zinc]

Nah I don't have anything that high yet. All of them are in the 105-115 range rn

they are appropriately geared though

[hot creek]

Just keep in mind the level difference. Don't bother fighting higher leveled fleets unless you want to eat losses in exchange for XP and half the merits.

[tulip zinc]

Yeah hence reset

I'm working on levelling a proper meta fleet but am trying to maximize merit in the meantime

[hot creek]

I see. Typically we just recommend using your highest leveled ships in your situation.

If you want a more specific recommendation, feel free to post your dock.

[tulip zinc]

So the level 105+ ships I have are:
Portkai-106
Lonkai-105
Ykk-105
Noshiro-106
Belfast-105
Helena-105
Enty-110
Hood-115
Warkai-105
Tirpitz-105
Akaga - both 105
Laffeykai - 106

[hot creek]

Enty/Helena combo can be pretty good.

Akaga/E, Akaga/Hood might be worth trying out.

[keen sparrow]

vg, belfat,noshiro,nanoda that will gud

[hot creek]

but yeah I'd probably just stick to what you were thinking before since Enty/Hood are your highest and WSkai is a good standalone.

[keen sparrow]

port kai is bad

[hot creek]

noshiro/helena/ykkz. portkai can be a decent tank but probably not at 106

[tulip zinc]

I'll try the helena and the belfast combos and see what works better. Helena has seemed to be kinda squishy unfortunately

[shell heron]

You might want to consider working on juneau. Theres a very good reason why she's on most top tier comps

[tulip zinc]

I am, she's just too low level rn

I'm levelling her and hiryuukai currently

[keen sparrow]

replace enty to queen n become hms

[frail orbit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NR_SHa79nuwQFFh3FHgdVZ3XcpSa1ZSlLDaT9vfl-No/edit#gid=0

Incumming QFC?

[keen sparrow]

nani

[vague token]

dido class buff

lol

[frail orbit]

Siriusly

[vague token]

+qe buff

xD

[frail orbit]

Incumming QFC

[vague token]

i dunno if that's actually good though

[keen sparrow]

seems intresting

[vague token]

like it's just another 7% all stats and 20% crit rate on a vanilla sheller

although dido's own fp is gonna be pretty nuts

[frail orbit]

At least imagine with QE on all HMS fleet

Dido sisters + headnod perhaps

[storm mulch]

Just wtf how

[ionic magnet]

yikes so they decided to buff qe this way

[vague token]

except it isnt enough

if anything just dont use qe still

[storm mulch]

He had characters level 30-50 but how

[vague token]

xD

[ionic magnet]

yea

[storm mulch]

hacker?

[vague token]

dido with 4 hms and no qe is going to have +39% FP

lol

[jagged steppe]

got a feeling like a good skill

[ionic magnet]

@storm mulch did you get owarida'd

[vague token]

yeah, dido is definitely usable, but still doesnt save QE

xD

is my guess

[storm mulch]

I even defeat level 80-90 players with the highest rating but now level 48 defeated me

[vague token]

she'll still be weaker than sandy in gun damage of course

[frail orbit]

Obvious lee

[ionic magnet]

anything goes in early levels

dont mind it too much

[vague token]

if anything id say that BP or Sirius appreciate her buff a lot

[frail orbit]

Siri tho

[frail orbit]

Kinda needs oneechan oppai hug

[frail orbit]

Imagine 2 oppai

[ionic magnet]

wait dido has no skin?

[frail orbit]

Ye

[vague token]

biloxi pretty whatever

[ionic magnet]

missed opportunities

[vague token]

gloucester utility in pve lul

[jagged steppe]

why en server sirius still not permanent

[frail orbit]

Dido good girl

[keen sparrow]

wait 6% for every hms can stack 4times

[jagged steppe]

fuck la

[vague token]

biscuit + gloucester

xD

literally only use id say

assuming the ammo adjustment is additive

you'd go down to 20% penalty on main fleet

with biscuit + note + gloucester

for 0 ammo

[keen sparrow]

ok pray to rng i got dildo with 1 roll only

[vague token]

although the wording is tough to tell

cause the doc says "does 15% more damage"

which is different from "reduces ammo penalty"

so who knows

[storm mulch]

Now it 42lvl

[keen sparrow]

u forget change nanoda aux

[storm mulch]

mm

🤔

Bulin fleet?

[jagged steppe]

is this vanilla laffey?

[storm mulch]

I thought they were useless

[storm mulch]

...?

[ionic magnet]

its called meme fleet

[vague token]

wait is there a new gun too?

134mm?

15 fp, 30 aa?

oh god it's an aa gun

with FP

????

what even

[merry edge]

how many jet fuels max should I get from a pvp perspective?

[jagged steppe]

its not ike you gonna use more than 2 cv

[midnight heron]

make qe great again

[vague token]

it wont

xD

[keen sparrow]

[vague token]

id really like the dido class to just have less efficiency and mgm+1 but i guess we cant have nice things

xD

[hot creek]

wsk shoulda had that skill

I used to use QFC before WFC

can confirm legit and still definitely useable vs namagiryuu

[vague token]

or instead of buffing qe with other ships

just retro her properly

_>

[jagged steppe]

inb4 they give her retro and also buff from other ship

[keen sparrow]

soon the queen will get her retro

soon

[jagged steppe]

angry dont have sirius noise

[vague token]

either way, it isnt like 7% fp/eva/hit would make qe busted xD

[keen sparrow]

at least with 7% hit now she will not miss again hope

[hot creek]

if only it was 7% evasion rate

[keen sparrow]

[vague token]

i mean, i guess making QE the hms fdg would be amusing

with no barrage

xD

[hot creek]

Anyways, I'd still rather take Sirius if I was using QFC anyways

[vague token]

i mean dido is for bb comp anyways

or flex comp

i think using dido with BP is probably easier since she has a defensive skill to help the vg

while using dido/sirius is like ultra aggro

plus BP uses the fp boost better than sirius

[sharp wing]

Mememry.

[vague token]

since she has something to multiply it with

eg 40% crit rate

[sharp wing]

Here, daily Kraken

[formal prism]

is hiryuu kai for solo cv good

[ripe latch]

[merry shoal]

welp i had to do all my exercises today because im working 12 hours today with shit mobile reception for update

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

60 builds for a god damn elite. why is that pool so bad

[sharp wing]

I spent more for some elites on big events, when they are only ship left

after getting all other ships

[zenith tundra]

last event kasumi was my last ship to build and now gloucester. in polaris admiral hiper muse... i seem to get stuck on elites a lot

[sharp wing]

Elites are only hard ships to build

I went few events to 0 cubes cause of elite

cause elite pool too bloated

Individual elite chance is very low

SRs may have lower droprate, but individual is higher

And well I spent over 800 cubes on Aurora

[blazing scroll]

Imagine wasting 300+ cubes on an elite

Cause I can

[sharp wing]

yeah

[zenith tundra]

i wasted 5k gems on aurora don't remind me about her

[blazing scroll]

The light build is a joke

The pool is way too big

[zenith tundra]

light build is a good daily build. u just keep building forever and doesn't cost that much

the items in this event.... like twin 381 for 0% and rudder from hard drop and 25%

[ripe latch]

[zenith tundra]

i guess i'll farm some more rudders but so much worse compared to suruga

is that 10k gun new?

a gold twin 134?

maybe 1st good dd ap gun

[blazing scroll]

Light is only good for daily build but if you want a specific ships that's just praying for good rng

[zenith tundra]

it's better then wasting cubes in special/heavy praying for rng

[astral holly]

Should I change for Warspoot in PVP?

[zenith tundra]

only if u use more then 1 hms bb

u lose too much fire dmg without a he gun

[astral holly]

I have hood with the Twin 381mma

the gold one

[zenith tundra]

hood fires aren't that strong because she lacks fp. i would use the ap one if u are sniping a medium armor.

[astral holly]

Hmm okay so just stick to the 406mm Mk6?

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[astral holly]

Oke

thank

[past egret]

Wtf free rudder blueprints

This pleases the nut

[hot creek]

if only it was staag instead

[zenith tundra]

even better something new and useful like armor

[past egret]

@zenith tundra what else is in the new event that’s given for points?

[zenith tundra]

this thing, newcastle and dr bps

[hot creek]

DR BPS you say?

[zenith tundra]

rest is pretty common stuff like retro bps/core data/books

[past egret]

What the fuck is that gun with the tumor sticking out of it

[inner zenith]

Are there specific PR commissions that’ll have higher chance of getting me azuma gun bp

I have none while some are finishing it

[zenith tundra]

non cubes ones

it's rng

[inner zenith]

)’;

[past egret]

I have like 20 BP’s for Azuma gun sucks I’ll never use her

Is Azuma Gun mountable on anyone else

Or purely Azuma

[meager dawn]

Only Azuma

Maybe when other CBs get released

[zenith tundra]

it's only 3 dr bps btw and 48k for 2 of them

[hot creek]

its random mang. saw someone with a seattle gun already, meanwhile I only have 10/25

[inner zenith]

)=

[past egret]

@zenith tundra 🚮

💤

[inner zenith]

Thought there was a focus

[past egret]

why not the usual 5+

[meager dawn]

cuz fuk u that's why

[zenith tundra]

i think it was the same for crosswave

[past egret]

@hot creek im about to complete Seattle gun

[hot creek]

ive 18/25 for zoomer gun tho and 19/25 for the gold bb gun tho so I can't complain too much

but seattle guns are op from what i saw

[past egret]

At the cost of Seattle and Azuma gun BP’s only 1/50 rainbow gun bp’s

[hot creek]

deletes ykkz

[past egret]

Perfectly balanced

[zenith tundra]

lol

[past egret]

Yuki killer?

[meager dawn]

killer?

[past egret]

[hot creek]

triple BB with seattle gun aux.

[zenith tundra]

u need a lot of acc still to kill her but that gun is amazing for bb aux

[meager dawn]

so seattle gun best bb auxgun?

[zenith tundra]

yes

[past egret]

Would your first one want to be put on frontline before you put it on Backline?

[zenith tundra]

backline on flagship

[past egret]

K

ThankaYou

[hot creek]

agree

[zenith tundra]

plus aa stat helps any bb that is used in pvp since they all kind of suck in aa

[meager dawn]

use nc for the plane counters

[zenith tundra]

it helps with hiryuu since any other cv on def is not a problem

[past egret]

NC Georgia Enty/With Pirate squad
Sandy Kai San Juan Seattle

Fuck your planes

[meager dawn]

why not vestal for maximum aa

[zenith tundra]

i would use essex for 12% chance of 1 dmg instead of nc and actual dmg

[past egret]

Vestal + Akashi

[meager dawn]

does that 12% work against any plane damage?

[past egret]

Yo I feel like San Juan’s skill is kind of decent (when it procs)

[meager dawn]

or just their bomb and torp?

[hot creek]

Essex/Enty are my w13 mvps, oh and Unicorn too I guess

[past egret]

Did Uni ever get a retrofit irl

[meager dawn]

[past egret]

meh

[zenith tundra]

all dmg but suicide

[inner zenith]

can someone ping me when game up for EN

[manic kettle]

@inner zenith in 1h 35 min ~

[zenith tundra]

i want a refund on azuma skin

i don't like it at all

even the chibi doesn't look good

[inner zenith]

D:

[ionic magnet]

nice meme

not liking the best l2d

just look at that login animation

[zenith tundra]

i didn't like the pose to begin with

[past egret]

Are any of these ships even good

[zenith tundra]

dido could work with qe hms i guess

[ionic magnet]

whats hard in AL?

[zenith tundra]

idk what could people even think it's hard to get when all u have to do is login and tap the screen a bit

[ionic magnet]

ppl these days just want to get everything without doing anything

[zenith tundra]

maybe just people that don't actually play al and login once per day

biloxi has a cool dr skill but i don't think it's worth using her in any comp

[shell heron]

people expecting PR ships to be handed to them

[pearl nimbus]

Sigh...bugged PvP

[zenith tundra]

if it's about pr ships then maybe they have a point but it's just 12 ships out of almost 400 and only end game content anyway

what did they fuck up?

[pearl nimbus]

You can't complete exercises

It just freezes after you complete one.

[zenith tundra]

[shell heron]

incoming -5 matches

I'll just sit on my "victory" screen listening to hololive music

[zenith tundra]

at least it's for the whole server

0/10 people gaining again free points

isn't like 2:30h before reset? there is a bit of hope

[sharp wing]

Hmm, pvp matches unfinishable lol?

Should rush 0/10 before maint lmao

patch kinda big, 443 files decomposed

[zenith tundra]

it has to be the minigames

[pearl nimbus]

You can't really rush the 5 after maint though lmao

The issue seems to be the new voices (the files that aren't present yet)

Like it says something about "Virtual Voice"

[shell heron]

oh you can't even PvE

[strange shuttle]

Explain ?

[zenith tundra]

it seems like u cannot fight at all

[karmic forum]

You cant do anything

Error 50 is everywhere

[shell heron]

AL is really just a collecting game now

give more gems to akashi

[zenith tundra]

in times like these i'm glad i switched to jp

idk how they always manage to fuck things up in en

[shell heron]

this might be the first scuffed season of 2020

[zenith tundra]

i think the problem is too big for them not to fix it asap

[sharp wing]

At least we can enjoy newcastle's permanent ahegao face

[zenith tundra]

seems like u need to restart and it works now. at least from what #gameplay-help says

[shell heron]

if this was only pvp, it won't be as urgent

but it affects pve

[pearl nimbus]

Fixed

For me anyways

[sharp wing]

all works fine

lmao

[astral holly]

Uh

What DD gun to use?

Other than Twin 127mms

[sharp wing]

138.6 ideally

But it's event gun

So yr options twin 127 and twin 120

[astral holly]

Okay thanks

138.6 which event?

[sharp wing]

french event

Iris of the Light and the Dark

rerun next summer

[astral holly]

o Okay thank

[sharp wing]

twin 134 is instant scrap

throw that gun away

AP dd guns only work on BBs as aux, when they cannot use CL guns, and only twin 128

and only for pve

[zenith tundra]

if u use her for pvp should switch mg to he too

[past egret]

Wait a second...

The boss has a drop chance to drop rudder blueprints too-

Grind mode on

[ripe latch]

[sour oasis]

So boosted chance on server quest is more drops and more chance of drops? Gods I hate farming.

[sharp wing]

lol, we getting that cn dd gun t3 from event

[hot creek]

Namagiryuu mirrors are annoying. Im going back to wfc

[jagged steppe]

what is the ship actual health? like my warspite have 8k hp but when I use warspite barrage damage 5000x2 and enemy doesn't sink

is the damage before reduction or something?

many time I deal like 5k 6kx2 enemy just dont sink in pvp

what is their actual health?

[ionic magnet]

check pins

theres an hp multiplier in pvp

and some other bonuses

[charred sable]

Great start to the season...

[vague token]

looks like two missed resets? xD

[past egret]

👁

This blue is actually not bad tf

2x 100 IB bomb while helldiver has 2x 500IB bomb and they both have 1 2000lB bombs

Hell diver does 100x3 damage SBD does 107x3

It’s weird

[elder crane]

ingame infopanel dmg for dive bombers and fighters are completely useless btw

check wiki for actual damage

[keen sparrow]

funny thing is i using gold dauntless on enty n my enty is can owarida everytime launch plane.hidden 100% chance owarida when equid on enty

[elder crane]

iirc dive bombers actually give correct total dmg except for SB2C, where it underreports by ~30%
it seems to think the 500lb bombs are 100lb bombs, probably a dev error or a later change to loadout

[keen sparrow]

using sb2c sometime owarida no proc at all at 1min time

[elder crane]

which is a big deal ofc since SB2C is the best Dive Bomber in general in actuality

Fighters though are a complete mess

also, no way of knowing plane HP, speed, or touchdown dmg in-client, you have to refer to wiki for it

But basically, @past egret, those numbers on SB2C are wayy lower than what they actually are

[keen sparrow]

buff more for mcclusky

[vague token]

also the full wiki table doesnt help to compare fighters

cause they dont put all the stats on it

xD

you gotta go to each one and compare

[elder crane]

Or use the superior CN wiki with google-tl
Wait, does that one even have suicide info? I know there's a few charts on equip guides that have it though

[vague token]

no idea

did they upgrade cn wiki to not use images?

that you cant search xD

or translate

[elder crane]

well, I mean the equipment form, which obviously isn't images

the guide do use images, but also have equipment icon so it's easy to tell anyways

[past egret]

Damn. I thought I was onto something @elder crane

Well back to only using helldiver

[vague token]

if there's an improvement over helldiver

[elder crane]

Yeah, devs be trolling you

[vague token]

we'll all make a huge fuss

dont worry

[past egret]

Hell diver but golden

[elder crane]

anyways, all ingame infopanel stuff is to be taken with a grain of salt
there's a lot of stuff it doesn't tell you, and some stuff is actually just plain wrong

[vague token]

or is more nuanced

cough gun range

[elder crane]

I'd put that under "lies" since the values given aren't even internally consistent

[vague token]

xD

they should just add ammo modifiers to stat table

as well

and put ammo in barrage description

(in game)

add Targeting Vs Actual Range

[untold wharf]

is it true that monarch formi centaur is better than warkai formi centaur in pvp

[formal prism]

is hiryuu as a solo cv viable?

[hot creek]

@untold wharf monarch isn't that great and certainly not better than warkai.

[untold wharf]

oohh ok ty

[hot creek]

@formal prism yeah but she wont be that great because both amagi's defensive buff and nagato's offensive buff together are necessary to make her truly op.

[hoary pasture]

any1 tested 120 noshiro in pvp yet?

[vague token]

i would

if i had one

108 atm

xD

[hoary pasture]

[shell heron]

working on her. 111 atm

[vague token]

this event is perfect for affection farm for suruga and noshiro

cause ez is so short noshiro can take mvp

and normal and hard suruga will take

[forest lake]

Damn

Thought I missed 4 tix

Lucky I didn't

[elder crane]

117 for me on Noshiro and she's great
Dmg numbers around Nagato/Suruga averages, mostly from being almost as tanky as ykkz

Also have never had my lead Jun get sniped despite facing tons of torpmemes

[abstract cypress]

more ijn bs, idk what yostar thinking

meanwhile other faction just got mediocre ships at best

[shy hazel]

you see my friend

manjuu is chinese company

they hate america

so they gotta make murican ships weak in pvp

this is bullshit talk btw

[forest lake]

Also to appeal to KC fangays

[buoyant parrot]

[past egret]

[high bay]

QE, Hood, Warkai with Dido seems interesting for a pvp team

[forest lake]

Lmoa

No

[high bay]

correction

meme pvp team

[sharp wing]

Idk if ppl are dumb or just ignorant, but yostar have no relation to game dev

replace hood w/ KGV/Mona and it might be not that meme

[high bay]

well im doomed to wait months before dev 30 monarch and no kgv until event passes

[sharp wing]

And i'd rather go kgv warkai mona anyway

[lean geode]

suruga just won a match for me for the first time

she can take a real beating

[sharp wing]

she is closest to tankiness to FdG

[sharp wing]

Looks like Lusty gained some weight in her Qipao. milfy

[vague token]

she's extremely close to fdg durability

just doesnt have the damage

xD

[sharp wing]

She can shoot fireworks duh

[sharp wing]

Daily kraken

[lean geode]

first time I’ve ever been at #1

[sharp wing]

Commit to Foodie Division

next time

[vague token]

big whiff

get her some glasses

[sharp wing]

nah, Enty cucced her

need hsfcr against Enty

[small cypress]

best ayanami torps?

610 or 533?

[zenith tundra]

for pvp magnetic are always better then normal

if u have none quint 533 should be better since higher chance of hitting stuff

[sharp wing]

610 are manual torps

[forest lake]

Manual in pvp when

[shell heron]

When we get live pvp matches

[past egret]

Was super exited to finally fight against a maxed Suruga fleet

But then I saw maya

Rip

Meanwhile though 3 super rushers in past hour so am happy

[shy hazel]

im done with all pr grind

give me your w13 grind fleet compo

nao

[forest lake]

Gei

[empty grove]

W13

[hot creek]

apparently fighters matter in w13

my backlines kept getting rekt while I was using reppus

then i switch to superior USA planes and no more death happened

[zenith tundra]

hellcats are the only fighters allowed in w13

[shy hazel]

my cvs are below 120

hell my cowtits lusty is lvl 90

[zenith tundra]

i used 109 uni for all w13 pretty much but the other 2 were 120 and had to use aa radar on her

u need at least 115 cv later on so don't bother. plus u need at least 2-3 outside of 1 healer

[shy hazel]

my healers are 118 at least

[zenith tundra]

did u finish event farm already?

[shy hazel]

nein

[vague token]

if only we had a sortable fighter table with speed stat and stuff

so you could just pick the slowest one with 2x500 bombs

xD

[sharp wing]

Ask in wiki feedback, I asked 2 times already

[vague token]

ok

done

[zenith tundra]

we need aux with -speed for planes

[frail orbit]

@zenith tundra anyway, could also use some gold corsair tho on w13 since extra AA for fleet lel

But then us EN plebs only have 1 pirate keks

[keen sparrow]

rainbow fighters when

im stuck

no bonus

[shell heron]

wait, why did you move before any bonuses?

[keen sparrow]

i want spend my ticket

[storm mulch]

+one character just destroyed my fleet

How does this game work at all?

[keen sparrow]

level dif

n that nagato barrage can melt u vanguard into darkness

if that both lv 120

[forest lake]

Git gud

[keen sparrow]

[abstract cypress]

no nagato in 2k20

[shy hazel]

[abstract cypress]

u can have mine tough

shes just my comslave

🚮

[red nexus]

Nagato is best wife

[forest lake]

[keen sparrow]

dont want ur edgy nagato

[shell heron]

not loving Sugura's barrage

feels like its much too scattered

[sharp wing]

Lolies are not waifus

🚮

[shell heron]

good, Eldridge will be mines alone then

[keen sparrow]

i just want

[abstract cypress]

nimi best

[midnight heron]

[forest lake]

Well not wrong but what

[past egret]

Nagato 🚮♿

[ripe latch]

fdg 🚮♿

[sharp wing]

KO KO DA YO

[misty garnet]

Is ayanami retro any good in pvp?

[sharp wing]

Only DD that is good in pvp is Yukikaze

rest are just paper

torpmemes

[past egret]

[keen sparrow]

pvp waifu wars

[sharp wing]

||https://i.pximg.net/img-original/img/2019/12/15/00/26/22/78114164_p0.jpg|| 🚮

[past egret]

Z fleet dd doesn’t seem to bad

From that one video

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

from the mist a shape

[sharp wing]

ohboi, muses are here

RIP cubes

2 limited in a row

[blazing scroll]

[high bay]

ah yes i can make more themed meme defence fleets

[sharp wing]

wait, wait, CN DD gun is basically now second best gun after 138

[past egret]

Explain @sharp wing

[sharp wing]

what

she has highest dps after baguette gun and is barrage friendly

[ripe latch]

true balance

[sharp wing]

I just looted it

time to +10

[past egret]

Who’s best ship to slap it on

[shell heron]

I like meme def fleets

[sharp wing]

Junie

xD

[shell heron]

Feel like I should oath z46 just because

[ripe latch]

mb on nanoda replace to this gun?

[past egret]

Speaking of roach

Why is roach better than kitakaze

[sharp wing]

nanoda needs 100mm for aa and barrage

[shell heron]

In pvp?

[past egret]

Si

[sharp wing]

cause nanoda tanky

[shell heron]

Main fleet protection and that ridiculous def skill

[sharp wing]

other dds are paper

[past egret]

I suppose that makes sense

[sharp wing]

any dd will drop after opening torps

basically

and if u lose vg fight, it's bad by drfault

[shell heron]

The only fast way roach dies is by fire

Or bad rng

[sharp wing]

or planes

thus u need 100mm and FE

for aa and fire reduction

but vs bb fleets can just spam barrages w/ 76mm

Actually waiting till CV won't be a thing in pvp at all

[fierce field]

how's the new purple single 130mm

the spread from the datamine is 22, on the wiki is 22
not 14

if only

[sharp wing]

dps wise it's best gun after 138, spread is equivalent to that of single 127

slightly tighter

[fierce field]

it only hit like 2/3 shot most of the time
same prob with 127

[sharp wing]

for pvp dog fights not an issue much

hits pretty consistently

anyways, there not use for it

only juneau uses dps dd guns and there you have 138

at least 1 from event

[fierce field]

if only my Juneau has 138

[sharp wing]

Time to use chinagun then

[vague token]

ill probably toss it on sandy and then steal my 138 for a gunboat

xD

[sharp wing]

well, as MG it's better on ships with strong barrages

0.4 sec faster reload

funny it has same volley time

But single 127 has even longer VT

[vague token]

single 127 is ye olde gun

[sharp wing]

3 shots gun has longer VT than 5 shots gun

[vague token]

so

[sharp wing]

Superior French engineering

US 🚮

[vague token]

twin 127 is fine xD

except on beloxi >_>

[sharp wing]

New maid has fun skill

ammo command

[vague token]

im training her for full clear + biscuit + promise

[sharp wing]

and again they stick FP skills on torpbotes

[vague token]

should be easy mode with those two

hoping it stacks additive with the promise

20% damage penalty on main

make full clears ez

[sharp wing]

not like 0 ammo clear gives any problem in 1st place

[vague token]

when you're skimping on levels it can

xD

[sharp wing]

and not like this frail torpbote suited for that

and her torps are atrocious

[vague token]

is she a torp boat? she has 150 efficiency

she looks like a gunner to me

150% cl gun

[sharp wing]

if she had 2 MG maybe

torpbote is torpbote

by definition

[vague token]

i mean 150 is higher than like leander

her efficiency is all weird compared to standard hms cls

[sharp wing]

I mean, mogamin roon and sanrui are not actually torpbotes sure

[vague token]

or maybe she low tech

what tier is she

xD

[sharp wing]

She is town class

so

supposed to be around sheff/edin

[vague token]

t7 but under edin/belfast

but higher than t7 with sheffy

on the list

why are her stats so bad

for this position lol

[sharp wing]

she is similar to sheffy

same eff

same torpbote

but gun oriented

[vague token]

sheffield has 40 aa over her

and an actual gun skill

[sharp wing]

fp skill is gun skill by any means

[vague token]

fp skill that is way weaker than 12% crit rate and 30% crit damage

xD

unless her barrage is good

[sharp wing]

well, no1 said she is strong

Bel superior maid

[vague token]

i mean it's just odd she is weaker than sheffield outside of her ammo utility

like why drop 40 aa

xD

[sharp wing]

I think she also was earliest sunk ship of them, like '41

[vague token]

yeah her luck is 45

sheff has 78

xD

big oof

w/e she is 100% gimmick boat for biscuit

main fleet is just in pvp mode at 0 ammo

xD

[sharp wing]

ah, she is different batch of town class, different loadout too

like her own subclass

[vague token]

rip

she has the same barrage type though

[sharp wing]

well, in game they are one class

[vague token]

yeah

wiki says she has gloucester class barrage

lul

[sharp wing]

eh

in game there no subclasses tho

wait

in game description says Gloucester class

Belfast has unique barrage

Edin says Edinburg class

qeq

Belfast supposed to be Edin sublcass

So Edin and Gloucester has subclass barrages

And sheff also says Southampton class

subclass

in tech tree they are different classes too...

[vague token]

when i play the preview it's the same though

unless there's like a subtle difference

[sharp wing]

probably diff name lol

[vague token]

they look the same unless there's like different spreads on them

[sharp wing]

damage nubmers are diff fr edin and southampton

wait, Edin has totally diff

barrage from Southampton class

Gloucester looks same tho

[vague token]

[sharp wing]

Anyway, my Ceres maids are almst ready

double DD double AA

Gonna do some HMS carrier fleet w/ Ceres Escort

They have Black Lagoon vibe to it

after retro

[sharp wing]

I see dev 15 azumas already

[hot creek]

when you're at the scoring sweet spot feelsgoodman

[karmic forum]

How many bps for dev 15?

[past egret]

Good amount of points ?

For this time in the season

[sharp wing]

[tulip zinc]

There's a chart in pins I believe

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/581795682458009600

[jagged steppe]

what does sandbagging mean?

[hot creek]

Not doing your attacks immediately therefore giving your opponents time to do theirs.