pvp

[shell heron]

wait

famine is a bot that grinds events

[sharp wing]

Fam do u use botnet for grand ordeal

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

[vague token]

fam is the perfected ai, indistinguishable from human

[sharp wing]

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

Fam is human indistinguishable from AI

[vague token]

the ultimate human

a neural net processor

a learning computer

master all the gacha games

[sharp wing]

molecular computer

[shy hazel]

basically

fam is a loser

[empty grove]

[zenith tundra]

wtf is wrong with who choses skins in this game...

all cny skins are terrible

[hot creek]

they're ok. nothing special for the most part. since the whole qipao thing just seems oversaturated at this point.

[zenith tundra]

have u seen sirius skin? u don't get more degeneral then that

[hot creek]

o

lmao

I see what you mean now.

https://puu.sh/F0L0a/2cd7e97c64.png halp

damn these DR prices

[zenith tundra]

u should do some 10hr commisions

[hot creek]

I've been doing them

[empty grove]

I had a ton of my gold eaten when testing things for 13-4

[hot creek]

Same except I couldn't even get past 13-2

[empty grove]

[hot creek]

I thought Centaur was supposed to be good

apparently not good enough

[vague token]

i mean she's a damage dealer, not a utility ship

[empty grove]

I had to 3:3 manual the boss

[vague token]

xD

[empty grove]

I was just happy to clear it without using subs

[zenith tundra]

i used subs for hunting for most of w13. only against taihou i used them in battle

i fucked up my comp quite a bit with jintsuu tbh

[shy hazel]

i dont have gold sub torps

too lazy to do it forgive me

ill need to cheese this new world

[zenith tundra]

i farmed 6 gold sub torp and then too lazy to even do weekly

[shy hazel]

i dont do both

[zenith tundra]

stupid manual pisses me off

[shy hazel]

yes

[zenith tundra]

i haven't done sos from before polaris

[shy hazel]

stupid sos also pisses me off

[zenith tundra]

more then 6 gold u don't need anyway

[shy hazel]

they should just put gold torps in main story maps

even event is okay

[zenith tundra]

and give us another daily/weekly then sub thing

[shy hazel]

ill farm it

[zenith tundra]

the worse part about that weekly is that is so repetitive. i do the exact same things every time because it's efficient and it get even more boring

[vague token]

i just started using barrage and nuking half the entire convoy lol

[upper sparrow]

if u compared azuma dev15 and noshiro, who is better?

[zenith tundra]

from what Bluerendar said about noshiro they are very close. maybe noshiro a bit better due her free bulge for everyone

azuma dmg doesn't pick up till dev 20+

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

Ya'll go back rerolling AK

[zenith tundra]

if it require rerolling it's already bad

[forest lake]

Nah it doesn't

If you want to then sure go ahead

But game is really low rarity friendly

[zenith tundra]

i played it a bit and after a draw 10 i was wondering how do u even get to do another since all u get is unrelated stuff from everything

whatevre the system is tbh it doesn't look as friendly as al

[sharp wing]

U get 3x 10 pull per month w/ monthly pass

but there second way to recruit

Also u can clear all content without 6/5* so

the game similar to fgo in that aspect

WTF Hermes needs 80 to retro, commons usually need 75... probably for VG

I only had her 76

her skill not locked behind modernization anyway

Kisa too

[zenith tundra]

well u can build 60 ships in 1 day in al if u have gold and cubes. not sure if i like being gated or if the game will have events like al

[sharp wing]

you are not gated by anything

[zenith tundra]

u said 30 pull per month

[sharp wing]

well, if u bad at strategy, you are permanently gated

[zenith tundra]

that's a gate

[meager dawn]

sucks how AK was released in the middle of exams for me

[sharp wing]

pulls not only way to recruit tho

[ionic magnet]

if you mean collecting everything then yea its not same as AL

cos nothing is

[zenith tundra]

but not all can be receuited with the other method

[sharp wing]

Nothing is close to Al in terms of gacha

[meager dawn]

also what is the difference with the banners outside of one of them being cheaper to pull for

[sharp wing]

most thing can, only some story characters can't

[ionic magnet]

just different rate up chars @meager dawn

[sharp wing]

beginner has not all 6*

limited pool

[ionic magnet]

oh yiu mean newbie banner

yea

[sharp wing]

it's discounted in both price and pool

[zenith tundra]

lol

[sharp wing]

it has 6 out of 10 6* in game atm

[ionic magnet]

thats why you reroll if you want a specific char

[sharp wing]

roll 10x beginner + free ticks on regular

3 6*

ez

sometimes 4 if u get 6* on tutorial roll

which is pepega

that is u don't want convert prime for gacha

[zenith tundra]

i don't like rerolling especially after trying it in al

[sharp wing]

rerolling Al?

that's pepega

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

no1 reroll AL

[zenith tundra]

it was in jp when i was playing en. i tried getting amagi and nagato

[sharp wing]

tbh few times I dropped game soon after rerolling for 3-4 days for perfect team

[meager dawn]

so AK has everyone is useable?

[sharp wing]

yeap

[meager dawn]

what about the rarity = better thing

[sharp wing]

well, better qol

[meager dawn]

same with al or like other gachas

[sharp wing]

like Al has op low rarity untis

u still need lower rarity units for mission start, cause lower price

deployment cost I mean

[zenith tundra]

just take dmg till u can afford better units

i used to do that in btd a lot

[sharp wing]

u cannot 3* map if u miss 1 unit and u will miss unit if you wait for higher deployment score to accumulate

[meager dawn]

I just do no lives lost in btd all/most of the time

[sharp wing]

what is btd

[zenith tundra]

bloons tower defense

[sharp wing]

I prefer custom wc3 td maps

[zenith tundra]

it was a flash game a long time ago. now is an app

[meager dawn]

kinda sucks that 4 and 5 cost money

[sharp wing]

imagine playing wc3 2k20

[meager dawn]

I'd like wc3 custom td maps if I still had the pc that had it

[sharp wing]

you can dl it anytime

[meager dawn]

can't cuz we didn't actually buy it. the cpu that my mom bought just had it there

[sharp wing]

I mean dl torrent

on any pc

u can run wc3 on toaster

[meager dawn]

[sharp wing]

I still play some tournament maps

but not active on garena for some time

[ionic magnet]

element td

[sharp wing]

One of us

[ionic magnet]

oldies

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

aight, time to go to work, cya boomers

[ionic magnet]

[astral holly]

Is this PVP fleet any good?

Hood delets people wtf lol

[midnight heron]

gud enuf till u get better

[astral holly]

I should move my hood to the top

So I can focus her barrage on the target that warspoot snipes

hi

[edgy cypress]

you might want to use Yukikaze and Juneau like i said

[astral holly]

Im leveling up Yukikaze

Lvl 79 I think rn

[edgy cypress]

and Juneau?

[astral holly]

Juneau is like 40

I just got her

[edgy cypress]

bummer

[astral holly]

Like a few days ago

xd

[edgy cypress]

lets see

[astral holly]

I just let me vanguard eat airstrikes

They usually die after the first airstrike

[edgy cypress]

@frail orbit

oof offline

anyways

[astral holly]

Depends on whose airstrike launches first

[edgy cypress]

that should suffice
@astral holly

[astral holly]

my enty or the enemy

Hood lowkey kinda E with the Barrage gun

the gold one

[edgy cypress]

what gold ?

twin 381?

[astral holly]

Max barrage delets a Lvl 115 warspite to half health

wait lemme chek

Ye

Twin 381s

16second reload

[edgy cypress]

yeah twin 381 is very good for BBs with great barrage with trashy FP

[astral holly]

I could possibly delete a backline ship before it evens has a chance to attack

If I moved hood to the top

Advisable for Warspoot in PVP?

Or nah

[frail orbit]

@edgy cypress wut toyo

@astral holly if ur Hood has Hoodgun, go ahead

[oblique marsh]

How do you focus a particular target if you can't control them? Is there a trick?

[elder crane]

If it means the difference between 1-salvoing and not, the 410AP is great on WSret, and any HMS BB/Cs with WSret

Warspite targets farthest ship with barrage

And, with retrofit, marks that ship for all HMS BB/C, meaning they all fire first salvo at it

[astral holly]

o ok

[elder crane]

Salvo 2/3 are normal random targeting

[edgy cypress]

@frail orbit you might help

[elder crane]

Targeting order for corner WS is diagonally opposite, then flag, then across
Targeting order for flag is top, then bottom, then flag

That's how you pick the order in which you focus ships when running WSret

[frail orbit]

@elder crane unless if Wakai with Formie Cent then just slap 406mk6 due to lack of burn . . .

And relying on torps for flood is just welps tbh

[oblique marsh]

@elder crane Holy shit, thanks for this info

Also is this the preferred gun for Warspite?

[frail orbit]

@oblique marsh if u have a HE BB, or s reliable source of flood then yes I'd say

Anyway Blue
Since Formie's flood being less consistent than Essex or Sara, it's just welp tbh to rely on em . . .

[oblique marsh]

I'm currently equipping her a Triple 406mm MK6 for PvE use but I don't know if this is recommended for PvP.

[frail orbit]

@oblique marsh depending on ur fleet tbh

[oblique marsh]

My backline fleet is CentKaiForm

[frail orbit]

If ur pvp atk fleet having another BB with HE then go ahead with wakai + triple 410

Hmmmmmm

Depends on the sync

Either that mk6, or triple 381

U would want HE over AP since formie flood aint that consistent

Generally

Formie before BB shot, after CV torps

[oblique marsh]

Man you really making me think here. I just don't want to pick a gun that made me 200HP shy away from victory...only to get owarida'd in the end.

[frail orbit]

@oblique marsh come to think of it, mind if u shared us ur formie n cent comp?

[oblique marsh]

@frail orbit Centaur

Formidable

[frail orbit]

Seems fine, but 2cata is overkill

[zenith tundra]

i would use reppu for fighters and at least an eva gear on centaur

[frail orbit]

^

And some oil for Formie

Besides with Wakai

U dont really need 2nd Ryuusei on Formie

But then the timing is welp

[oblique marsh]

is equipping an oil a game changer for a CV? I always thought that equipping 2cata will make it faster kill.

[frail orbit]

Well
At least ur planes wont get cucked ASAP

[ionic magnet]

no reason to run catas over avgas really
and put atleast 1 eva gear on both formi and cent
you want them to survive til 2nd airstrike

and only villains use ryuuseis

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet at least a ryuusei is still reasonable given that we need to kill Jun ASAP when Wakai snipe aint hit anything yet

2 Ryuusei tho

Given that Jun being AA specialist

Better slap avgas tbh

[ionic magnet]

yea 1 ryuusei is fine but cuda is just better

[keen sparrow]

gas + ruder on centa
bacon + ruder on za wa ru do

[ionic magnet]

and 2 ryuuseis is out of the question

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet as in, hitting the backline too?

Sounds fair tbh

[ionic magnet]

full crash dmg

[frail orbit]

Oh, that

Fair then

But well aint ye need to optimize Juneau kill too? @ionic magnet

When she cuck u in 2nd airstrike after Wakai snipe then just F honestly

[ionic magnet]

juneau is not really a problem tbh
she just dies anyway from random torps/shells
you dont need ryuuseis so its better to just put those dmg to enemy backline

[frail orbit]

By cuck, I meant her dying on 2nd strike

That's why u need a strong force to cuck her ASAP anyway

[ionic magnet]

only problem with this comp is if your own VG dies too early but that applies to every other comp too so

[zenith tundra]

or somehow one of ur cv dies randomly too early

[frail orbit]

FEK IT ZACK I WANNA SAY IT KEKS

[oblique marsh]

So for Juneau, she has to die asap? So does that mean no toolkit and anti torp for her?

[zenith tundra]

this was really a mystery how it happened

[ionic magnet]

also main problem of ryuuseis is it just doesnt sync on 2nd airstrike
and in cases that it hits, it either just aims a half dead VG or a half dead flagship (both cases is just overkill)

ryuusei is also bad in backline vs backline matches as it cant hit multiple targets

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet and either way u already have alba criss cross shit for that diagonal keks but yeah it's still too RNGish for Ryuusei to hit deffo target keks

But the point is

Cuck Jun or u got cucked

[zenith tundra]

after changes to aim, ryuusei can actually hit 2 backlines at once

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

@zenith tundra still too RNGish tho

U wont know who to get aimed

[ionic magnet]

thats cool but still not enough

[zenith tundra]

i know but when it usually happens to me, most of ryuusei aims for an invicible hiryuu instead of nagato

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

Which is already too much dmg potential wasted since Hiryuu just cheats

I'd prefer 1 ryuu 1 cuda still

[ionic magnet]

well crash dmg targetting is also rng but atleast its a guaranteed hit so yea

[zenith tundra]

hiryuu without ryuusei is worse then hiryuu with ryuusei so i usually just accept that my hiryuu is gonna hit no torp before vg death

[ionic magnet]

on def namaryuus ryuuseis never hit i swear

[frail orbit]

Anyway let's just going back to the topic

Oh well

He's gone

[oblique marsh]

I'm still here lol

[frail orbit]

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

Anyway about guns

On ur wakai r8?

[zenith tundra]

that's why i was testing against suruga amagi fdg so much to find a comp that doesn;t rely on hiryuu

[frail orbit]

Just choose whoever is right on ur formie timing

[oblique marsh]

yeah, also my juneau question got ignored lol

[ionic magnet]

what juneau question

[frail orbit]

U could use bombzen calculator tbh for that airstrike

Airstrike reload

[oblique marsh]

So for Juneau, she has to die asap? So does that mean no toolkit and anti torp for her?
@oblique marsh

[ionic magnet]

whats your VG again?

[frail orbit]

^

[ionic magnet]

and no
juneau has to die at the right time
not too early not too late

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet wait wont she cuck u while healing em backlines tho keks

[ionic magnet]

wait is this an enemy juneau?

im lost

[frail orbit]

Wait am kinda lost too for work keks

[oblique marsh]

My VG is shit, I'm still experimenting. For now, it's Monty+Bel+Yukikaze.
But I'm changing it to Neptune+Juneau+Yukikaze. I'm working with Juneau right now but I don't know her right gear for PvP.
Neptune on the other hand is still 26/30 on Development soo...

[frail orbit]

NEVER. TAKE. HEADNOD. TIL. D30.

Seriously her barrage just sucks til D30

[zenith tundra]

idk about en juneaus and pearl but after azuma i use boiler pearl juneau

[ionic magnet]

for juneau you just put her as lead
then use bulge + boiler/toolbox/rudder
can skip bulge if you have noshiro
and yea pearl if you have azuma

[oblique marsh]

Surprisingly no pearl for Juneau...why?

[ionic magnet]

overheal

[frail orbit]

No need for pearl unless zoomer

U would want zoomer to be a zombie

Yet she aint zombie

[oblique marsh]

zoomer?

[zenith tundra]

it usually overheals. the one reason u might want pearl on juneau without azuma is for ws

[frail orbit]

Azuma

[ionic magnet]

azuma is just a terrible pearl carrier so no choice but to put it on jun

[frail orbit]

A zoomer

Yeah, pardon for my bad pun

[oblique marsh]

I don't have Azuma though

[frail orbit]

EN keks

Who tf has Azuma d30 on EN lel

[ionic magnet]

imagine not having azuma

jk

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet long grind for Azumama's lap pillow tbh

[zenith tundra]

azuma dev 15 is pvp viable

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

Yeah d15 is
But u need her gun too

Else with desu gun she's just a clipped ear doge

[zenith tundra]

i tried azuma with both ca guns and other cb gun and she is really bad

[zenith tundra]

noshiro at least useful for azuma

[sharp wing]

Fresh blood

Maids season

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

[shell heron]

I got baited. r20 and +0

[coral wren]

admiral again

unless i get -4 from this

[coral wren]

[hot creek]

Oh wow. Time flies.

[vague token]

suruga 110

soon (tm)

changed my gear a bit

swapped to armor/sg amagi

zflag/rudder suruga

just gonna rely on suruga damage reduction

get a bit more damage out

oh... new memu version

[shell heron]

I love it. A +0 gensui rush

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

where

is that syanda

[ionic magnet]

[ripe latch]

1 loss = top20

[high bay]

i lost twice this reset

[eternal idol]

can i have a recommendation for what i can assemble for a fleet with my roster?

[frail orbit]

@eternal idol is that all u really have?

[eternal idol]

erm yea. im about week old or so

the other ships i have are low lvled

[frail orbit]

Show it

[shell heron]

You're just lacking in main fleet ships. But 3 that stands out to me is enterprise, Saratoga, and hiryuu.

[frail orbit]

^

[eternal idol]

is there something i can use for now?

[shell heron]

Saratoga and hiryuu both need their reteofits but a 3 CV comp is usable for now. Levels is more important than proper comp where you're at

[eternal idol]

ok

[frail orbit]

Sara, Hiryu, Souryu could all be retrofitted later

For now just level up E and Hiryuu, as for BBs welp tbh. Try to get Hood later on bro.

Also if u are still new, take PVP as for merits only atm.

[eternal idol]

thats kinda what im looking for, but i cant seem to win. most of my matchups have 10k+ fleet power

[shell heron]

Fleet power can be deceiving. Level difference is huge

2% dmg taken and dealt
0.1% hit and eva rates
On top of usual stat diffs
Also 0.5% PvP HP multiplier
Is the difference per ship level

Believe it caps out at 20

[eternal idol]

most of them are lvl 90-100 :u

should i play the matches anyway?

[shell heron]

For easy matches sure. But nothing is forcing you do it

[ionic magnet]

if you just started fleet comp doesn't really matter much
just use your highest level ships

[high bay]

i go against lvl 120s with ships around 100-115

[ionic magnet]

if you wanna know whats meta you can look at tierlist in pins tho

[eternal idol]

should i just wait for refreshes if im farming merits for matches i can win?

[shell heron]

Unless you care for your W/L Ratio. Even losing rewards merits

[eternal idol]

ok :o

[ionic magnet]

merits and exp

can also use your low levels for exp farm

[vague token]

oil free exp even if you lose

[shell heron]

double +0 gensui rush resets

[ionic magnet]

really

[shell heron]

wait I got a +1 this reset

worse

gensui

rush

ever

[ionic magnet]

i got +3

[vague token]

i got 2 last reset xD

nothing this one

[shell heron]

I'm sure I can still hit AotN

but not EoS top 10

[ripe latch]

[shell heron]

to rush or not to rush

I rush

I rushed hard because dead gensui rush

enjoy the free +2 off me

[ionic magnet]

time to use my refresh to find you

[shell heron]

I'll just take r1 to make it easier for you

[ionic magnet]

welp nothing

[shell heron]

worse

season

ever

I wonder how did famine's gensui bonuses went?

because if it went bad, Hoo is now ahead of him

[sour oasis]

Geez, second time I got into top-3 since beta. Are other servers PvP more sane?

Sagittary managed to get top honors with 5 or 7 losses; where was that?

[vague token]

with that many you probably have to do it later

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

this is the last bad season in awhile for me

done with pr grind next week

[sharp wing]

I'm busy

rush pvp and be done

[shy hazel]

go away rusher

[sharp wing]

I rush 30 mins before reset

[shy hazel]

u and hooloo playing ak

haram

i hope u quit

[vague token]

i started it too ;)

[shy hazel]

hope kiro quits

so less dirty memers in here

[vague token]

na you're stuck with us

[shy hazel]

dont put me in your level loser

[vague token]

no need if you do it to yourself ;)

[shy hazel]

i bought too much oil

ill probably have too much overflow even after finishing fdg

problem is i have no gold

ill still need to test later

if bisko and 2 zeps will work

on w12

[vague token]

just have sandy carry them or w/e

[sharp wing]

Loser.

[shell heron]

buying oil

[sharp wing]

Not like 7th game makes me quit Al

AL best sidegame

[shy hazel]

duh

[sharp wing]

Or rather best waifu game

[shy hazel]

ak is more of the sidegame

[sharp wing]

gfl and ak waifus are meh

[shy hazel]

u just have to do it 5 mins a day

[sharp wing]

ak has husbandos at all, I usually dun play games w/ husbandos

in IS i just buy female skins for my hasbandos and genderbend/mindbreak em into waifus

Kiro wants too

[meager dawn]

[shy hazel]

u mean

ak has lizards

[sharp wing]

ak has all

from sheep

to demon girl

al genderbends dragons as bunnies

or how u even call that

Kiro useless

[vague token]

im just a casual

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

useless =/= casual

[sharp wing]

tryhards can be useless too

[ripe latch]

wow someone usless on pvp

nakagi rushers

[sour oasis]

I'm AotN in Avrora. Does this mean I can't call myself a filthy casual any more?

[sharp wing]

I was top 2 EoS with -1 tix and i'm still a casual

Aotn i got once with -13 and enough for in reserve for another -1

casuals are just free spirited individuals

Not bound by ladders

If anything, it helps to avoid burnout

And enjoy thing longer

[ripe latch]

casualshima

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

losers

no off topic

[sharp wing]

Throw yrself there

[ripe latch]

why google docs not upd after pr2?

[sharp wing]

well, just stick azuma with juneau and nanoda everywhere in any comp...

not like there at least dev 15 azumas w/ her gun

and FdG needs dev 30 so can not bother for few months

could update gears I guess w/ new guns, also rainbow gun few months away as well

[zenith tundra]

457 is so far away unless u lucksac badly

other equipment could be included by now

who is still updating it?

[sharp wing]

no1

[zenith tundra]

it's not much to add for equip. seattlegun on everything that uses cl guns and hazemeyer as a poor man staag

don't think that twin 406 is relevant

maybe jp bofors but not sure

[sharp wing]

twin 406 for naga

can run on amagi too, ppl already run triple 406 on amagi

[ionic magnet]

blue i think but he's now busy with AK

[sharp wing]

it's good comprise between speed and damage

every busy with Ak

[zenith tundra]

@elder crane i included seattle gun for everything but juneau and sirius(that uses cl guns) as a bis and put hazemeyer as an option for bb aa in the tierlist.

also gonna remove cata from hiryuu and put heavy armor

[zenith tundra]

anyone has anything against putting hiperlinks on ships names to their wiki pages?

[ripe latch]

[ripe latch]

azuma with double gyrosc still usable?

[meager dawn]

Double gyro?

[zenith tundra]

she needs evasion since she has lowest evasion for a vg ship

[sharp wing]

no1 here looks at tierlist anyway

only newbs

the more friendly for newbs it is, the better

[ripe latch]

@meager dawn

[sharp wing]

that was early cn setup

speedmeme all out offense

[ripe latch]

deja vu

[zenith tundra]

her chances to miss is very low with nagato and 1 gyro

that's just a meme

[sharp wing]

her chances to miss are about same as warkai

[zenith tundra]

from when is 123 same as 100

also she has hit skill and nagato buff

i would say not even close

[forest lake]

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

ws has 90 luck

and second acc equip

or even double sg

and 0 luck vs 90 luck...

don't just judge 1 stat

[zenith tundra]

it's still higher with just nagato buff

[sharp wing]

it's 190 acc vs 170 acc + 90 luck

[zenith tundra]

wtf is that 190?

[sharp wing]

azuma acc w/ nagato buff and gyro

what else

[zenith tundra]

u don't use double sg tbh but whatever

[sharp wing]

I do

with shell it's 150 acc + 90 luck

anyway

[shy hazel]

wait for pr2 fate eps

[past egret]

https://youtu.be/cIiQ6UAfYyI

[zenith tundra]

namagi ws....

what a meme comp

[ripe latch]

7 misses kekw

[zenith tundra]

namaryuu is a way harder comp for namagi suruga then namagi ws

[shy hazel]

i guess

ws kai for def is bad

and as usual

ijn is too good

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

why would u use

gold plate on amagi

oops

azuma

[sharp wing]

to reduce nagato barrage

[shy hazel]

can tank it enuf

[sharp wing]

and amagi

[shy hazel]

better to just use it in some med armor thingy

[sharp wing]

only bad vs torps and air

which is not problem in azuma time

I'd rather run rudder anyway

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

anyways

5 done

fdg last

[past egret]

Why does Azuma use Gyroscope

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

speed+acc

instead boiler

she already has shitton hp

for her acc more important

[shy hazel]

this game is too easy

[zenith tundra]

heavy armor azuma is for bb comps. it works because barrages and bb mg shoots deal less dmg on heavy. it sucks against torp and any cv damage

[shy hazel]

after last pr2 is well

[sharp wing]

[shy hazel]

world 13 grind

[ripe latch]

looks like es for cv corp

[past egret]

this game is to easy

Meanwhile I’m struggling just to get a third PR

[sharp wing]

sidegames supposed to be easy

[shy hazel]

[sharp wing]

[elder crane]

110 vs 90 for BBHE
130 vs 110 for BBAP
145 vs 125 for 457 SHS
130 vs 70 for Nagato/Amagi barrages
For medium vs heavy armor modifiers

[ripe latch]

[past egret]

[elder crane]

Mainly it's anti-nagato/Amagi barrage, armor plate
Otherwise vs other BB shelling, Rudder is about as good

[past egret]

[ripe latch]

game too easy

[sharp wing]

rudder can work well with her buff too

only buff timing is bad

need 10 sec buff

[elder crane]

It covers CV strike timing and 2nd amagi barrage, usually, so it's fine enough

[sharp wing]

even nagato second barrage probably

it's 20 sec +12

not with twin 406 maybe

[elder crane]

No, Nagato is just a bit too late for that

[past egret]

Why is Azuma the only frontline that gets to use the special armor, large cruiser class is special?

[zenith tundra]

it's not bad since cv have higher chances of hitting her then a 40% chance nagato barrage

[elder crane]

Unless both 381kai and HSFCR

[sharp wing]

yes

CB meta

lighter cruiser can't have heavy armor

[ripe latch]

why nagato with sg radar? not ihr?

[zenith tundra]

heavy armor is a literally an anti nagato thing so it's not really worth against any non nagato comp and still not worth against namaryuu

[elder crane]

CB is basically the old BC concept anyways

IHR= purple FCR?

[zenith tundra]

rudder

[sharp wing]

improved rudder

[zenith tundra]

it's called ihr in the tl

[elder crane]

Oh
I run Badge+SG on her

Badge+Rudder is overkill defensively
And losing the hit really lowers her dmg output, especially vs Vanguard, which is what her barrage mostly wrecks

[sharp wing]

not running acc equip is really bad

[ripe latch]

vs cv corp without ihr = death

[zenith tundra]

u can not run acc and go full wall unless ur dmg is a 10 sec burst

[elder crane]

Vs CV comp = ez win

[sharp wing]

it doesn't work vs cv tho crash damage cannot be evaded

[elder crane]

It works vs ryuusei focus

But like
Lol CV comp

[sharp wing]

cvs dun live to focus you

after yr vg dies anyway

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

FC comps are joke on def at all

might as well put meme

more fun

[frail orbit]

And knowing that who tf put FC on def at all

If u really wanted def fleet then just Namagi derivate somehow

[sharp wing]

those who dun have namagi

Ppl not always can or want gear 2 fleets

so just put attack fleet on def

[frail orbit]

And so does peeps who dont have Fried Chicken

At least the chicken is easily there tho

[sharp wing]

there far less ppl, who have Namagi or at least Naga, but don't have FC

obviously

If there at all

but with CE rerun it will be, far less ppl who have FC, but don't have Amagi

And then Naga rerun in spring

Right about time when Azuma gets ready

Hmmm

funny coincidence

[zenith tundra]

it's only 110 for dev 15 and there are people with 90+ already

azuma in pvp will be pretty soon

[sharp wing]

she will be, but completely ready by the time Naga rerun

the 500 bps

1st azuma will be around CE rerun probably

It's strange there no sight of CE rerun anywhere yet tho

Probably after new year

chinese

[zenith tundra]

maybe they will just forget about ce

[sharp wing]

lol

they won't cause Cn needs rerun too

and yostar needs it on jp

🐳

And I expect Amagi skin

[zenith tundra]

i wonder if amagi skin is what is holding it back

[sharp wing]

Liduke...

well

It can be complicated

I think they really just waiting out new year

Expect some news after all back after new year holiday week

Also En already need to get collab in early 2020

As they promised

But en can always just get cucced on rerun

have it later

someday...

[frail orbit]

@sharp wing git, take notes that Liduke already have skins for Gas/Mon/Dunk lel

But no Amagi

[sharp wing]

that's the thing

It's like waiting for Choukai skin from shiyo

mon has 2 skins

OwO My wife skin announced

And tiddybote skins not getting worse too...

Siri and BP skins are kinda meh... Esp compared to their L2D

Also... Where is WC archive... Need Siri L2D and that sheff fangirl bote

what was it called...

swiftsure

[zenith tundra]

can i downtier neptune from t0 to t0.5? it feels weird with azuma t0.5 and neptune t0

[past egret]

How can Azuma be higher than Neptune

I thought Azuma was like tier -0.5 cause she breaks tier 0 in terms of how op she is

[zenith tundra]

i don't have enough vg to test around with different comps that much. but without nagato azuma dmg drops and while she it tanky she can still be less useful then othher stuff if the comp is more specific towards a goal. i would put azuma t0 but i still think juneau at least is more important in any case

[sharp wing]

idk how flex spots even get t0

they are flex for a reason

if anything azuma can be, cause it stops even being flex

Or just give botes like Junie godlike tier

"Jesus"

[sharp wing]

👏

They suck so hard, couldn't even kill Junie

zepp 0 damage literally

Kraken

She slowly quietly crawls upon you

[zenith tundra]

should've show fleet power as well

that team has 2 heavy 3 medium and 1 light. anything that ibuki hit it's for actual dmg

[sharp wing]

ibuki image from another battle

[zenith tundra]

i thought it was from that

[sharp wing]

that match was too meme to check damage

eh fast clicked skip on buki mvp match

[small cypress]

Best gear for noshiro

And for portland

[sharp wing]

portland gear is 🚮

check pins for sanrui gear

[small cypress]

@sharp wing why? portland isn't good at pvp?

[sharp wing]

not really...

she is local meme

[zenith tundra]

single 150, gold quad mag, gold aa, boiler rudder/oxy

for noshiro

[vague token]

portland was the budget pure tank

[sharp wing]

noshiro same gear as jintsu in tierlist

portlands same as sanrui

[small cypress]

Sanrui gear?

[vague token]

saint louis

[small cypress]

Where to see its gear?

[sharp wing]

pinned tierlist

[zenith tundra]

noshiro is in the tl

[sharp wing]

some1 added

[small cypress]

ok

ty

Best gear for yukikaze? @zenith tundra

[vague token]

boiler+fire extinguisher

[zenith tundra]

twin 100 rainbow torp gold aa fe boiler

[sharp wing]

it's all in tierlist...

[small cypress]

boiler it's?

[ripe latch]

on docs azuma best green - gyroscope

meme still alive?

[sharp wing]

1 gyro 1 plate/rudder

it's her gear

[zenith tundra]

u need the speed because if not ur vg just dies to bb

[ripe latch]

double gyro

[sharp wing]

it's not meant double

[ripe latch]

[sharp wing]

Admiral of the Weebs

[coral wren]

so im using akaga pvp team

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

in that case

which vanguards are good

[sharp wing]

So you are

look in pinned tierlist

[sour oasis]

Dumb observation: what's the point of PvP once you get Admiralty before Sunday, just tiny bits of merit? (Why doesn't game remove merit and ladder gains... I'd like to sink lower so I can fight lower ranks for ship xp)

[sharp wing]

don't fight bonus ppl you won't go high

after u get AotN it's pretty pointless

[sour oasis]

I've got 5 fights now and I'm still in top 50 (and everyone is using huge ass fleets I don't want to fight)

[sharp wing]

wait few hrs

[zenith tundra]

there's not much of a point in pvp. it's mostly to get ur purins and after that nothing really

[sharp wing]

that's not the question....

[sour oasis]

I still think PvP could be a great place to level up my slower ships. If I could see less 15k fleets. (I've come to regard Zack as answering a question that was never asked)

[sharp wing]

well, 15k vg is a meme

those are easy wins

[coral wren]

@zenith tundra if u think so, why not just dont play pvp

[zenith tundra]

it's not the question but pvp itself is pointless to begin with

[coral wren]

if u dont like it, dont play it.

[sharp wing]

no1 questions that

[coral wren]

theres no forcing

instead of just, u know, coming here spilling ur whole bucket of salt

[zenith tundra]

i like pvp but there's no denying that the rewards are not worth

[coral wren]

well, its a thing

[sharp wing]

to maximize merit gains you better still use all tickets in top 10

eating +9s

after u get AotN

AotN matches get +10 merits

compared to top 100

[zenith tundra]

i'm definitely not salty about pvp. i've accepted i only play because i like the challenge of winning against strong comps

[coral wren]

eh whatever.

i have stuff to ask

[sharp wing]

"challenge"

[sour oasis]

Yeah. I don't care about ladder gains and these +80/90 merits are weak. I'm going to see where I end up in like 8 hours and bring out my Mutsuki fleets.

[coral wren]

how do i get higher ranks?

i wanna stay at top1000

thats it.

[zenith tundra]

some comps are actually not as easy as hit play button with some random comp

[sharp wing]

well, after u get AotN 2.5k it's whatever really then

[sour oasis]

Strategic fight picking. And OP fleet.

[coral wren]

u could just arrange

[sharp wing]

u can either relax

[coral wren]

whats aotn 2.5k nani

explain

[sharp wing]

U get rank up rewards

[coral wren]

oh--

now i see

[sharp wing]

in mail

[coral wren]

yeah

i understand now

[sharp wing]

for each new rank u get in season

[sour oasis]

Admiral of Navy. When you have 2200 ladder points and are top 10 you get 2500 merits

[coral wren]

how do i get to higher rank tho

do i just

[sharp wing]

AotN is last rank

[coral wren]

use the tries

everytime?

[sour oasis]

WIN tries every time

[sharp wing]

Well, depending on server

[coral wren]

if i win every try ill get that?

[sharp wing]

What server u even in

[coral wren]

okay then ill tryhard next season and see

[sour oasis]

Reset fights (leave, retry) you think you can win if you're losing

[coral wren]

avrora

[sharp wing]

U are doomed

[sour oasis]

I'm in Avrora!

[coral wren]

why

[sour oasis]

It's... Hell

[coral wren]

hmm

okayy

[sharp wing]

It's tryhard server

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

no easy aotn

[coral wren]

i dont even play like pvp meta ( lack event ship save me )

[sour oasis]

Sandy tryhards want to beat story mode. Avrora tryhards want PvP

[coral wren]

i dont need aotn

i just want

the 90 merit thing per win

[sharp wing]

Well, u need Aotn for merits

[coral wren]

would be very nice

yeah i see the point of that as well

[sharp wing]

and 90 merits for battle is only in top 10 end season

[sour oasis]

Took me a year to top-1000 (move past Captain)

[coral wren]

only top 10?!

[sharp wing]

yes

[coral wren]

i thought

we got that top1000

[sour oasis]

90 merits per win is top 100

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

top 10 is 100 then

[coral wren]

isnt top 1000?

okay

scammed

[zenith tundra]

90 merits is top 1000

[coral wren]

yeahh

[zenith tundra]

100 top 10

[coral wren]

i seee...

[sour oasis]

I thought top 1000 was only 80? I was wrong.

[coral wren]

top10 too sweaty

i just want top1000

[coral wren]

when does a season reset btw

also when do they give u the tries

[sharp wing]

On Monday

[coral wren]

mm okay

what about the tries thing

[sharp wing]

seasons last 2 weeks

[coral wren]

hmm okay...

when do u get ur tries tho

[sour oasis]

+5 tries every 6-12 hours

[zenith tundra]

u get attempts at daily reset 12hrs after daily reset and 6hr after that

[sharp wing]

there 3 resets per day

[coral wren]

+5 every 6 hours?

[sharp wing]

1st reset 12 hrs

[sour oasis]

"Morning, midday, night" if you're on PST timezone

[sharp wing]

next 2 6 hrs

[coral wren]

so....

[zenith tundra]

12am 12pm 6pm server time

[coral wren]

okay...

[sharp wing]

daily reset +12 +6 +6

[coral wren]

mmm

okay

all +5 right

[sour oasis]

Yup

[sharp wing]

yes

max 10 ticks

[coral wren]

i understand now

which means...

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

if i dont stay up until 3am

i have to play tmr before 3pm

or ill waste alot

[sharp wing]

u can skip 2 resets w/ 0 tix

or 1 reset w/ 5 tix

[sour oasis]

Rules for Avrora : win every fight. Even if if you can only best the fleet on the far right

[sharp wing]

any tickets over 10 will burn

[coral wren]

mm

so the day resets at 3pm..

if i use all at that point

[sour oasis]

+8 ladder points better than +0

[coral wren]

im gonna get +5 tries at 3am

and another +5 at 9am

and then another +5 at 3pm of the other day

this sucks

[sharp wing]

ye

[sour oasis]

Yes

[coral wren]

i reach home after 3pm usually

this whole tries thing so bad for me

[zenith tundra]

eu times do suck for both en and jp servers

[coral wren]

[sharp wing]

that's not Eu time tho

[coral wren]

whatever time that is

its gay

[sour oasis]

You don't have to burn them right away. I work 12h shifts so I just do 10 at once sometimes.

[coral wren]

issue is im away for too long

school gei

[sharp wing]

I just skip cause

[coral wren]

ill miss 5 tries everyday

[sharp wing]

pvp not worth it anyway

[coral wren]

no wonder my rank sucks

i have to stay until 3am for a hope of a high rank

[sour oasis]

What time in the day can you play for... 30m uninterrupted?

[coral wren]

u see

[ripe latch]

pvp its 10 min time

[coral wren]

3pm resets right

[sour oasis]

I'll give you a scheduling example.

[coral wren]

i reach home at 3pm

and then i play until like what 2am

[zenith tundra]

1min every 1hr is best way to play pvp

[coral wren]

and i go to school at 6am

and then it repeats

[sour oasis]

Tell me what hour in the day every day of the week you have 30 minutes free

[coral wren]

eh

hard question

lemme thonk

[sharp wing]

for you it's best to do all tix whenever u have time

[sour oasis]

So at 4pm you play PvP. Ten times. At 6am you play PvP 5 times.

[coral wren]

yeah

there is a solution like that

which is that i play the 10 tries when i get home

and then after i wake up i do the 5 tries

[sharp wing]

wait again what is yr server reset?

[sour oasis]

3 pm

[coral wren]

but then id have to wake up earlier than the bus everyday

[sharp wing]

nvm

[sour oasis]

Or play on bus like I do

[coral wren]

no phone...

i swear if i had one world would be better place

[sour oasis]

Nox emulator?

[coral wren]

BS

better for AL, i heard

[sharp wing]

better for everything

[sour oasis]

Hm. Don't suppose your school has a PC you can install BS on

[sharp wing]

lol

[coral wren]

so for now current options are stay until 3am, which i accidentally did today, or i wake up before 6am, which should give me enough time

[sharp wing]

better wake early

[coral wren]

school PC would probably crash with BS honestly

[sour oasis]

As a person who is old and tired, wake up early better than staying late.

[sharp wing]

well, I ran BS on some 10 years old pcs

[sour oasis]

What's your secret; my work PC dies with VM

[sharp wing]

lel

how

[coral wren]

its hard to wake up early cuz i sleep at like what, 1am minimum

[sharp wing]

it's more than 10 eyars old?

[sour oasis]

It's running some celeron budget processor

[sharp wing]

well, 10 years old gaming pc

[sour oasis]

@coral wren... Why 1am? Stop watching porn.

[coral wren]

no

[sharp wing]

[coral wren]

that being one of the reasons

i just do stuff

and then oops

its 1am already

[sharp wing]

"doing stuff"

[sour oasis]

Eh. That happens.

[coral wren]

happens everyday

sometimes i fall asleep accidentally

but we dont talk about that

[sour oasis]

I clean up poop until 1 am sometimes. Please help.