pvp

[granite flame]

the guy who made this

holyshit

he even put the loading screen in the spreadsheet

"Last datamine... of the year. Atelier Ryza left me emotionally wounded. Am I the only one wanting to be suffocated by Friedrich, Ryuuhou and Suruga boobs with their new skins? And then have them sit on my face? Yes? Sorry, I'll excuse myself with my degeneracy then."

I..

[vague token]

yeah 500 core data for 100 hp and 18 evasion is not worth

[zenith tundra]

even if it's for new camo aux doesn't make sense to be unique for 1 evasion...

if u have nothing else it's better then a normal wheel and camo

[vague token]

yeah, but you could just farm up 5 bps for a normal wheel and camo

and spend barely anything to get +6

since you'd need to +10 the core camo

you'd actually have less evasion

unless it's blue

in which case

[zenith tundra]

yeah maybe a 20 eva was better

[vague token]

i mean, the upgrade scaling would have to be really weird

cause even at 20 evade

assuming +1 evade per level

you'd be at 16 evasion

less than blue camo

this items stats make 0 sense unless it has a bonus skill

or the upgrade ratio is like .5 evasion per level and it has a higher base

actually at .5 per level it'd still be worse than blue camo at +6 i think

X_x

yeah this thing is whack

[zenith tundra]

blue items in core data sounds whack too

[vague token]

hopefully it's a bug xD

[zenith tundra]

not 1 person moved at all in 4hrs

[past egret]

After 3 hours I just refresh

Impatient

[zenith tundra]

i was rank 150 after reset if i refresh now it's 100% people with no charges left

[vague token]

event has killed all the rushers

=/

[past egret]

They rush event stages instead

I wish events final stages would have drop exclusive SR’s

[zenith tundra]

i don't like gambling my oil for a nonexistent chance of sr drops

[vague token]

back to c2

forever

;)

spend like 1 oil per magatama or w/e

[zenith tundra]

my suruga noshiro comp is far from 1

[sharp wing]

Time>oil

[vague token]

it's also faster cause 4 battles before boss though =/

[sharp wing]

yeah, but the time needed to get same amount of points

D3 gives 80% more

[midnight heron]

lul best i can do for d3 is 1:3 and i hav to swap ship positions constantly if i get ca siren spawns annoying af

boss fleet 2:3 cuz stat requirement

[vague token]

if i wasnt getting azuma exp i could go cheaper probably

im using triple ijn destroyers + nagato carry for clear

xD

[zenith tundra]

if only c2 would also drop cv common. i wouldn't mind enhancing ryuuhou too

[vague token]

that would be great =(

[ripe latch]

[midnight heron]

[vague token]

🐳

[forest lake]

Geis

[serene saddle]

Testing suruga in pvp

[zenith tundra]

what level is ur suruga?

[serene saddle]

She can be very annoying

97

Coz she reduce incoming dmg taken

[zenith tundra]

i have 104 but even 100 couldn't try against 120 teams

[serene saddle]

Well she need 110 to survive longer against 120 teams

[vague token]

id only use her at 100 if running like warspite to relieve pressure on her

[serene saddle]

Mine tend to die alot from a barrage ship

[zenith tundra]

lvl 97 is 46% dmg taken more from lvl 120

[serene saddle]

Altho my suruga blue skill is still lv3 she proc so often

[vague token]

it's checked by the entire team

not just herself

[zenith tundra]

i'm still not sold on her 20s barrage tbh. even if the dmg is ok it's still slow

even lvl 1 blue skill procs quite a bit

[serene saddle]

Same as washi and gascogne barrage time tho

[vague token]

the game power creep has moved away from 20s activated skills

[zenith tundra]

those aren't good pvp ships

[vague token]

both offense and defense

[zenith tundra]

if i have to guess her barrage strong attacks should do around 500 dmg per projectile with 6 hitting opponent backline. so around 3k dmg. that's not a lot

[vague token]

i mean it's fine, she's just a huge defense boost for people who want that

we got noshiro for ijn master fleet

[serene saddle]

In pvp her barrage just add flower shells

[vague token]

free bulge on entire vg, 12% crit for ANY offensive action

plus torp boost

and 15% evade rate

xD

[serene saddle]

And also noshiro is much tankier than jintsuu i think

[vague token]

she has more hp and the evasion rate boost

[zenith tundra]

with azuma dev 30 i don't think she actually makes into pvp unless u go for boosting azuma dmg with her buff instead of yuki

[vague token]

it'd be better to run ibuki with her

[serene saddle]

Azuma rely on her mg than torp

[zenith tundra]

i wouldn't use ibuki over azuma in any circumstances

not even with noshiro

[serene saddle]

Azuma is the tankiest vg u ever get, she prolly sometimes the last 1 to go down

[vague token]

i mean in terms of synergy is all

would be better for defense probably

since the torps would hit the backline

[zenith tundra]

yukikaze is almost always last to die.

when opponent vg dies azuma tanks for yuki so she dies faster because of bb aux

[frail orbit]

Well duh, different shit anyway

Azoomer basically BC in vanguard lel

Main gun user lah

Unlike torpmeme bote of the usual IJN torpfuckery keks

[zenith tundra]

not terrible against a namagi taihou full lvl 120 for a lvl 104 suruga

[shy hazel]

friendship with jintsuu ended

noshiro is the new ho now

[zenith tundra]

what level is ur noshiro?

i struggle leveling her in c2

[vague token]

mine's only 35 so dorm+oil comm duty

eh i bought her like today

it's ok

or rather yesterday

xD

i got ryuuhou first, she's 68 now

woo safe mode on d3 for fleet lock

passive farming mode go

[serene saddle]

What i use in d3

[forest lake]

[serene saddle]

Just need submarine help to kill those elite siren bb and CA or they hurt alot

[young mulch]

is homing beacon worth getting from core data

[serene saddle]

Yes for pvp

[vague token]

my oil in that lol

bacon is good for everything

more healing from cvl, more shield from lusty, more dps

[young mulch]

what's the reduction, about 1 second?

[vague token]

or rather it comes out sooner being the more useful part

[serene saddle]

Prolly around there for cv and heavy CV

[zenith tundra]

in pve is still useful when using multiple cv to adjust timings

[vague token]

and that

sync skill procs

[young mulch]

so ideally i want homing beacon and 100/150 fuel loadout on my carriers?

for pvp

[vague token]

well, cvs usually need a rudder

right now

cause they get hit really easily

or beaver badge if you have only 1 cv

[zenith tundra]

i would go with rudder beacon/100/150

[serene saddle]

I want formi to air raid after other release their bird 1st

[young mulch]

o

i use centaur ws monarch

[vague token]

so bacon would help push centaur's strike closer to ws/monarch gun times

[meager dawn]

Just give them the 406mm mk6

I think centaur can launch before their shells hit

[young mulch]

i try to position my centaur away from any barrages coming her way

[serene saddle]

Not when theyre using hood gun

[young mulch]

never tried using rudder on a cv

[meager dawn]

Sad that centaur can't equip VH

Muh memes

[serene saddle]

Using rudder help chance to avoid warkai despacito kill

[young mulch]

wait is rudder the high performance steering gear

[meager dawn]

yeah

[vague token]

yes the gold one

[young mulch]

i let my monarch or ws tank all the barrages is that bad

[meager dawn]

Slap hoodgun on every BB you have so that the enemy rudders will be useless

[serene saddle]

Monarch is my sniper she snipe those who annoying in backline

[meager dawn]

Not really, protecc centaur

Unless the enemy is running 3 barrages

[serene saddle]

She snipe those annoying backline like amagi or enty

[meager dawn]

What about hiryuu

[serene saddle]

I ignore hiryuu she not a threat

[young mulch]

watching ws miss amagi all the time is a little depressing

[serene saddle]

Amagi is the one who doin all the dmg

Not hiryuu

[meager dawn]

Watching my warspite miss both her boosted snipes even with double SG and STAAG is

[serene saddle]

That what rudder and sg radar is there

For amagi

To dodge those boosted snipe

Add suruga later she reduce incoming dmg

[meager dawn]

Wont they just use warkai/fdg

[serene saddle]

Fdg gonna take many months to be in pvp

[zenith tundra]

pretty sure people will meme/flex with their fdg soon enough

[meager dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632377339266727949/661097075748110336/image0.png
They already did

is the goddamn pic not loading

[forest lake]

Yep

Screw Discord

[serene saddle]

The vg fleet is kill or be killed instead of stalling

[meager dawn]

Purple camo

[midnight heron]

since when was it announced lul

[vague token]

it got datamined

dear god is it bad though

hopefully camo line will get a skill

so it actually makes sense

to be a unique gear (cant use 2 at once)

[zenith tundra]

equip skill don't stack anyway

the only reason to be unique is avoiding stat boost from same items like rudder

[keen sparrow]

[special equidment]
i wonder wat skill that

10s invicible

[ripe latch]

[shy hazel]

purple gears generally dont have good skills

if it even does have one

[midnight heron]

wtf my alt has 3 rainbow gun bp and main still 0 rip

oh new emote

[forest lake]

[past egret]

¿

[valid stirrup]

the pain of not having a bb actually able to take down enemy vanguard as they approach ur backline. this happened like 3+ times, and i still won, but this is

and only the helldivers are actually able to hit up close, torp bombers don't do shit

[finite valve]

the pain of using 2 CV in pvp

been there done that with foxes

[elder crane]

even DBs aren't reliable
if the enemy vanguard charges in past your CV location, your DBs won't target them, which is super pepega

[finite valve]

all in a day work for former foxes user

you just deal with it and get gud

[elder crane]

it's actually annoying the other way too

if you want vanguard to tank Hiryuu proc, but theirs folded, and yours charged in too far to tank it

and then your main fleet eats an extra full strike wave

[finite valve]

i love how when i was using CV ppl were using BB

and now when i switch to BB everyone else switch back to CV

like wtf lol

is hard being a rebel

[elder crane]

FC being FC

also I need my BB equips for PvE

[finite valve]

already finish my 6 stagg

so done it long time ago

should have focus on gear bp instead of trying to max dev

[frail orbit]

Fok off and pls flaunt that 6th STAAG on #trophy-room

[elder crane]

how is 6 staag enough
I want like 10 at least

[finite valve]

@frail orbit what are you going to do about it?
call the mod on me?

[frail orbit]

Nothing just kinda salted at that STAAG lah
Nothing that serious tho lel

[finite valve]

[valid stirrup]

tbh, who are the best pr performers in pvp sanrui, nep, monarch seem pretty nice. pr2 seem pretty weird tho, altho i do know fdg is op at a certain dev level

but are cls even that good in pvp, since it seems to be cas that are the big chunky ones

[shell heron]

Meanwhile I'm 3 off from my 6th STAAG

[zenith tundra]

ca guns sucks in pvp when opponent ships move too much

azuma fdg monarch nep ibuki are used in pvp out of pr ships

saint louis is also used as a tank but not meta anymore after azuma

[past egret]

Hey yes I’d like to purchase 1 staag

Please donate to the poor

[zenith tundra]

ca also suffer in pvp for lack of buffs. cl get a 15% dmg and 20% damage reduction vs ca that only get a 15% damage reduction. usually cl have useful skill for ur comp like juneau while ca tend to be more selfish with their buffs and not as useful overall

[frail orbit]

There's Noshiro now but well . . .

If on yuki/jun/xx traditional thing she won't fit much

[zenith tundra]

i don't see why not. yukikaze has good torp and u want ur vg to survive as much as possible and noshiro is great at that

[elder crane]

she fits very well

noshiro is the next tankiest option after azuma for the flex slot

[frail orbit]

I meant in regards to CA buffing

Not for that

[elder crane]

buffs Ibuki
good enough

[zenith tundra]

the only use of ca buff u'll ever see in pvp is ibuki

[frail orbit]

In case of traditional ones obviously she fits, but for buffing with yuki jun . . .

U need to sacrifice jun or yuki

For noshi

[valid stirrup]

neptune>sanrui for pvp?

[frail orbit]

Different approach

[valid stirrup]

altho don't cls get hurt a bit more by he, which most people have on their guns?

[zenith tundra]

i want to see ibuki noshiro jun before i say anything but i would sacrifice yuki for ibuki

[frail orbit]

1 is light armor cl maid
Another one is a medium armor ca knight

[zenith tundra]

cl are usually faster and just dodge bb shoots

[valid stirrup]

oh yea, bbs are pretty mean to cas

[past egret]

This accurate

[zenith tundra]

also u use speed aux for that reason

[past egret]

¿

Pvp got brought up in general

[zenith tundra]

pvp ranking is based on pts. u get more points by waiting for people to use their attempts before using yours so u get bonus points

[elder crane]

I think for now she's either in
Jun/Noshi/Ykkz for stall
Ibuki/Noshi/Ykkz for torps
Noshi/Aurora/Ykkz for better torps but squishier

[zenith tundra]

for defense noshiro ibuki aurora sounds scary, if they can just kill ur vg

[elder crane]

yeah, that might be actually good max torpmemes

the only sorta-issue with that is noshiro herself

bulge+noshiro really cuts into torp damage

simultaneously the cancer and the treatment

[zenith tundra]

lol

at the very least there is a cure now till azuma

[past egret]

“Cure”

LMAO

[elder crane]

that's why I was thinking Ibuki/Noshi/Ykkz
if you can't reliably torpnuke vanguard anymore, just go for their main fleet (obviously a defense team)

for eHP purposes, Noshiro provides equal/more defensive utility vs torps than Aurora provides offensive utility for torps
let that sink in

[forest lake]

I'd be really interested in Noshi Buki Ykkz/Aurora gameplay
Ping if anyone has one in the future

[zenith tundra]

i don't have aurora leveled in the 1st place

[forest lake]

[elder crane]

I'm sorta-rushing up Noshiro

so I'll be able to test all of the above

Suruga first though

[forest lake]

My Aurora's been collecting dust for forever now

[zenith tundra]

what level is ur noshiro?

[elder crane]

86

I think 90 aff now

[zenith tundra]

i'm at 89 89

affection doesn't look good

suruga keeps mvp

[forest lake]

Oh right Zack

You used Suruga for a match right?

Mind sharing damage screens

[elder crane]

yeah
suruga is lv101 and 116 aff

[zenith tundra]

i actually use her

[forest lake]

Thoughts?

[zenith tundra]

at level 105 her dmg is not awesome

[elder crane]

I mean
she's like, what, slv7/7 right now at best?
and yeah lv105 is a bit pepega

[zenith tundra]

sl 9/1 for me

[forest lake]

Wait I thought I saw like 13k damage on your screenshot

Like I know it's not credible and all

[zenith tundra]

that was with balck shell hsfcr pve gear

[elder crane]

also 13k is very low for a main fleet ship, even at that level

[zenith tundra]

with sg rudder she drops under 10k agaisnt 120

[forest lake]

[elder crane]

I'd say 25k or so given her role starts being acceptable, but that's at max ofc

[forest lake]

I mean 13k damage at that level with some nice def buffs is definitely nice

[zenith tundra]

i was thinking wrong screenshot.

i put her tankling ws kai here tho

so it's normal that is low

[forest lake]

Jfc Azuma

[zenith tundra]

slow vg really suffer against azuma

when she can land all mg shoots on vg that's what happens

@elder crane any reason u oathed suruga? i'm still cannot decide if i should oath her or not

[elder crane]

Can't do proper testing without oath (sorta /s)
I oath pretty much all my lv120 ships unless I know for sure I'll never use them
otherwise, that's tons of wasted affection for the 200 grind

[zenith tundra]

i ended up using one of the rings from pack on juneau and the other is for noshiro

[elder crane]

I have 6.7k gems and I don't usually buy skins so
oaths for everyone I have a good excuse for it is

also oathed suruga lines are

I'd seriously consider oathing her for just the waifu factor alone

[empty grove]

Yeah her lines are nice

I wish I could access her headpat line tho

[inner zenith]

I oath juneau too. I don’t think it did anything for her

😂

[vague token]

suruga is cool, too bad she is probably the one who stole the watatsumi

xD

[empty grove]

She doesn't seem confident enough for that

[vague token]

doesnt have to be, she's a total push over character

who has low presence

[empty grove]

Yeah but what would they even do to manipulate her

[vague token]

nothing, akagi *just has be intimidating

or convince watatsumi itself

[empty grove]

[vague token]

she'd fold under any pressure

xD

doesnt even have to be a threat

she just gets rolled over

[empty grove]

Protecc Suruga

[zenith tundra]

is the border covering her face in en too? @elder crane

[vague token]

lemme check

[empty grove]

Yeah it is

[zenith tundra]

the image seems to be on the side

wtf why

[vague token]

yep

because purple camo with 1 more evade than blue

and now camo is a unique

;)

[dusk stirrup]

[empty grove]

I think it's her positioning in that circle

Too far over the right

[zenith tundra]

make no sense tho. no reason for her cape to be the center...

[empty grove]

Yeah idk

A lot of visual shit happens like that

Like zoomed in on the this portrait

[zenith tundra]

wonder if u can report it as a bug

[vague token]

toss it on the pile

en is off for new years or w/e

;)

[empty grove]

I don't even bother, half the time they say they can't take it as feedback

Like they don't have access to fix it & need to contact the devs

[vague token]

noshiro's all out assault still says On Entering Battle

like she is a sub

xD

[empty grove]

Actually you're on JP so disregard that

Slipped my mind

[zenith tundra]

wish i knew how to report bugs for jp. the slide bar on mission screen missing for a long time now. it kind of bothers me since i have to scroll down every time to see what i haven't finished yet

aren't they rolling patches like almost every day? how tf are they not working

[vague token]

dunno about other servers but they tweeted en is on holiday

[zenith tundra]

[vague token]

on jan 1

so no point expecting anything

maybe they'll make blue rudder a unique gear behind our backs

xD

[empty grove]

They mentioned localisation fixes in these patchnotes

Belfast's wedding line still has the same error it had since oath release

Each time they mention those fixes, I check & it's still the same

[zenith tundra]

are amagi torp always aimed at the closest ship? suruga seems to be like that

it kind of bothers me tbh

[vague token]

suruga's is "aim target harm"

or w/e it was

[zenith tundra]

i never see those aim at anything good

[vague token]

im pretty sure it's aim at a random target that can be damaged

[zenith tundra]

she seems to always aim at top ship when there are 2 ships on the sides and an elite in the middle

[vague token]

i found the code datamine, it's target_choise = "TargetHarmRandom",

[zenith tundra]

more then random it feels stupid

[vague token]

im curious if "targetharmrandom" means that if you cant harm it, it wont target it

like hiryuu invuln

[zenith tundra]

if only i could find a namaryuu to test

[vague token]

oh, i just got an extra noshiro from d3 lol

well that saves me a bulin

[finite valve]

just farm 120k and you won't need to use purrin

[zenith tundra]

114k is not a big deal. it's only 700+ c2 clears

[empty grove]

[coral wren]

just farm

4head

[small cypress]

Warspite has barrage, but

May I put Warspite in the top?

[vague token]

top spite aims at the enemy bottom slot

[small cypress]

@vague token So, Warspite and Friedich can't be in the same fleet?

[coral wren]

they can be if you want them to be

🤠

[vague token]

there's no real limiting factor for using them together

[sharp wing]

Just that Namagi Azuma Nanoda best combo, so

[shy hazel]

ppl should differentiate between

usable and

meta

[vague token]

viable =/= optimal

[shy hazel]

fdg wskai should be usable

tho battles will take so much longer

and youll be forced to reset

time to time

which makes it bad for lazy ppl

like me

[finite valve]

you need to raise her first is the problem

[shy hazel]

backline really has too many good pvp ships

but front always hve that slot for azuma

[finite valve]

too thicc for meta

[sharp wing]

She is not thicc, she is oppai

[ionic magnet]

fat

[sharp wing]

[ionic magnet]

[sharp wing]

She is kinda slim

[ionic magnet]

its noshiro meta for now so

[sharp wing]

[finite valve]

dk if i am going to switch noshiro tho

using nep atm

[sharp wing]

buki not going anywhere

[finite valve]

might see if torp autism going to do anything to her

[ionic magnet]

well noshiro is just another flex

prolly best flex tho

mix of def and atk skills

[sharp wing]

I need to get her 1st

[ionic magnet]

what are you doing

shes everywhere

build drop exchange

[sharp wing]

not exchanging till last day, if I build her, will be waste of points

[vague token]

good luck with that .5% build rate

that's what, some insignificantly small chance higher than a drop

[ionic magnet]

i wanna level her asap so

[vague token]

and then i got a drop from d3

xD

[sharp wing]

TBH I often build more 0.5% ships in event, than some of rate up ones

[elder crane]

3rd pull Noshiro for me, case in point

[shy hazel]

im not even farming the event

too bad for pr

[elder crane]

idk
I finished 1.2 mil Azuma 8H before 2.4 mil unlocked anyways

[hoary pasture]

im a zoomer

[coral wren]

Share your setups for d3 grinding

[vague token]

my azuma focused one is nagato/ykk/shiranui/hatakaze for clearing

nice and budget

[coral wren]

i'll steal that one, ty

[vague token]

xD

if you arent on safe use vestal whatever

[vague token]

then just fill out the rest of your evasion requirement on the other one

[past egret]

Finally

Pure cancer fleet to suffer against

Put Hiryu isn’t 120

There is no god

[sharp wing]

masochists

[coral wren]

belfast instead of jin

meh

[ionic magnet]

jin died for noshiro

@past egret so how bad was it

[past egret]

7th reset 0 luck

@ionic magnet

[ionic magnet]

yeah that's expected

[past egret]

I will persevere

[forest lake]

This DR flex

[ripe latch]

[finite valve]

one of them is not a man of culture

filthy swine

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

no

only one isnt nazi

[empty grove]

Thighs are thighs

[past egret]

One is inferior

3 are superior

15th reset

Send help

There is no god

Wait there is nep dance

[proper thistle]

So I just got Monarch to dev 20, at this point should I swap out unicorn and jam her in?

No centaur

[shy hazel]

go roll her

[proper thistle]

Or is she still not viable at 20

[shy hazel]

[proper thistle]

Too busy trying to roll event ships

[shy hazel]

monarch needs 25

any pr dr needs 25 actually

[proper thistle]

Sigh
Guess I'll keep using my ghetto ass team then

[shy hazel]

but hey

monarch d20 is better than uni

LOL

what u even thinking using uni

[proper thistle]

I mean ngl, I didn't have many other options for hms

[shy hazel]

qe is an option but well

you rly need a better ship than hood after monarch

[proper thistle]

Theoretically hood would be centaur if I ever get her

[ripe latch]

sendai time

[shy hazel]

if you listen to hooloo

2bb 1 cv is better

[proper thistle]

But yea, main fleet options are kinda borked

[shy hazel]

apparrntly

@ionic magnet

actually

suruga maybe usable for u

[ripe latch]

no ws kai

[proper thistle]

Nope no sword

I missed the event

[ripe latch]

F

[proper thistle]

Mmhm

[ripe latch]

enty kgv hood

[proper thistle]

Then kgv loses passive

[ripe latch]

bism usless

[proper thistle]

I mean she's great for my 1:1 pve fleet with nimi but not useful here

[ripe latch]

[coral wren]

[empty grove]

[shy hazel]

[inner zenith]

[ripe latch]

[inner zenith]

How far is everyone with rainbow gun

[vague token]

1/50

[inner zenith]

Better than me

😢

[elder crane]

3/50 still
None for a few days now

[ripe latch]

2/50

12h reser - nothing

think spam 1h reser better

[shell heron]

You’re getting rainbow gun bps?

[ripe latch]

[ionic magnet]

[forest lake]

5/50

[ionic magnet]

9/50 why the heck you guys got so few

[forest lake]

This fuq

[coral wren]

I hope leveling zeppy worth it. Gotta flex with natsoc setup

[midnight heron]

hax

[midnight heron]

finally got 1st rainbow today with 8hr fdg research

[hoary pasture]

it happens

legends say, just flush more cubes down the toilet and you will eventually get more rainbows from procs

[sharp wing]

What if u have 0 cubes

[finite valve]

akashi says hi

💳

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

I say bye

[shy hazel]

im so fkin

busy

i din do hards and dailies yet

and Ｐｖp

[empty grove]

I just forgot

[vague token]

yeah but how many points are you at

xD

[empty grove]

Idk

Like 45k

I skipped like a day & a half of the event

[vague token]

ah ok

i was like wow only 3rd

[shy hazel]

only 3rd

[empty grove]

I was 15k points behind yesterday

[shy hazel]

kiro is lookIng down on u

imagine

[empty grove]

I mean with how much this game pissed me off i'm surprised I had the willpower to farm

[shy hazel]

i dont evem know why im playing this game

[empty grove]

Addiction to PVP

[shell heron]

now get 2600+ EoS score again and you'll be back to normal

[shy hazel]

im just waiting to be cucced

i started this game to salt guild discord

[shell heron]

I continued this game to salt discord servers with my banner lucsacc

...except this banner. it was average luck

[empty grove]

Now i'm curious

What is average to you?

[meager dawn]

Every event ship in 50 pulls or less

[shell heron]

average of 40 for every gacha ship

[shy hazel]

cay is speaking bullshit

the man has 1k cubes

[empty grove]

My friend weighed up my average a few months back

[shy hazel]

[empty grove]

It was 254 cubes per

Generous gacha my ass

[shy hazel]

cqy average is 30 cubes per event

[meager dawn]

Just be lucky lmao

[shell heron]

which is prob true

[empty grove]

I wasn't lying when I said my rates on FGO were better than AL in terms of averages

[shell heron]

it would have been 2k cubes now if I didn't need 100 builds this time

[shy hazel]

being lucky wont give u 100%

[empty grove]

I've had a banner take 800 before

[shell heron]

fresh player days was about 300. now it's 60 cubes

[empty grove]

Mine fluctuates a lot now

This event made me re-evaluate why I still play this game tho

[shell heron]

banners is one of the few things I look forward to in this game

because I will never need to buy cubes

ever

[empty grove]

If I quit it'll be from gacha

Also that's a pretty big jinx

1000+ on a ship is possible

[shell heron]

inb4 that actually happens

[empty grove]

RNG is a mega bitch

[shell heron]

still a shame I didn't gather salt this time

chessboard rerun was fun. U47 on the first build

[empty grove]

That was 270 iirc

Got all the other rate ups twice over

[shell heron]

I wonder if I'm behind with 1619 10/10

wait I have a spread sheet of a decent pvp season

[empty grove]

Think i'm on 1625

[vague token]

im 1613 but it's ultra slow cause event

[empty grove]

I'll check after this

1626

[shell heron]

should be an easy 2600+ for you

[empty grove]

It all depends on gensui rush luck anyway

[shell heron]

I'll prob have to rush some resets this week so 2580+ is my goal

[empty grove]

I'm barely paying attention to PVP so we'll see

[shell heron]

another 4 matches lost incoming

[empty grove]

That last time was 100% my fault

Woke up 11 mins from reset & said i'd wait out 3 mins before I pushed

Fell back to sleep in those 3 mins

[shell heron]

why I choose to eat a +0 reset now if I know it's gonna be busy

or I sleep

[empty grove]

It's bad pushing early when you have a sizeable lead

Will have to waste refreshes on the last 2 pushes if bad RNG

I've lost a match due to waiting on a chunk of sandbaggers to push final match so I'd have less chance of a -1

[shell heron]

on EoS, never push early

[empty grove]

Nah

I'm talking mid season

Like when your last match puts you at around rank 10

Even pushing in last 10 minutes you can get someone under you in points

So you wait out as long as you can & then get meme RNG'd into a lost match due to timer

[shell heron]

that sounds like your problem. I can only dream of having such a lead

[empty grove]

It happens a lot during events

[vague token]

go become top 1 in abyss horizon pvp now and conquer all the ship girl games

;)

[empty grove]

My soul would cease if I played more gacha

[vague token]

how many are you playing right now lol

[empty grove]

2

[vague token]

xD

[shy hazel]

i dont know

i actually doing way less pvp now

like just now

i had 5 charges on last 20mins

[vague token]

accept the casual within

[shy hazel]

rather be dead than casual

[coral wren]

[shy hazel]

u filthy communist casual

[sharp wing]

You offended Al devs now

[forest lake]

[sharp wing]

And all Communist party of China

[vague token]

rip social credits

[empty grove]

Be like me

Be casual

[shy hazel]

china fake commie

[sharp wing]

So far event gacha been generous, daily 3x and 2x 10 pulls gave 4 ships, only need Ryuu

[shy hazel]

they do darwin law there

[sharp wing]

Also that new year minigame gives PR bps

Are they hardcoded drops for every1>

[vague token]

i forgot what i got already

[sharp wing]

You probably would not forget PR BP

[vague token]

i think i got dr bp on one like 2 days ago?

or was it yesterday

i cant remember

[sharp wing]

then random

[empty grove]

Did you get 2 T3 red books yesterday?

[sharp wing]

I don't remember getting anything decent there

[empty grove]

2nd day was 50 cog chips

[vague token]

ill pay attention tomorrow

[empty grove]

I still need to do mine

[ionic magnet]

yea i got general bp just now also

[sharp wing]

then it's hardcoded

Oh we have new dorm, haven't checked

whole +0 comfort as usual

[empty grove]

[sharp wing]

yeah, same drop

Got my max dorm tokens medal tho

[vague token]

i have the amount i just have to spend it

[sharp wing]

platinum crown

yeah

didn't want to buy regular stuff

got almost 2.7k tokens left

[ripe veldt]

anyone test noshiro in pvp yet

90/1XX oath takes takes 1/3rd of the dmg of a 111/200 meme cruiser doing c2 so hoarfrost seems super op

[forest lake]

Ye she's really good

Boosts fleet's overall tankiness too

But I doubt she'll have a spot after Azuma Dev25/30

[ripe veldt]

true

[blissful girder]

[ripe veldt]

just delete juneau

[blissful girder]

Jesus-chan and ykkz are probably mandatory picks more or less, and Azuma too thicc

though I guess on offense fleet you could bring noshi isntead of jesus-chan?

[vague token]

the cn wiki pve tier list pushed baltimore up thanks to noshiro boosting her dps and durability i guess?

[ionic magnet]

mines still lv 70 cos no oils

[forest lake]

You dare take away Jesus?

[blissful girder]

[ripe veldt]

delete jesus

[forest lake]

jk I'm making Noshi Buki Ykkz for memes

[ripe veldt]

delete jesus yamato

[blissful girder]

according to someone who could read runes, nga guy seems to be saying that 'CAs are no longer expected to tank' thanks to Noshi existing, so he changed how CAs are evaluated

seems like the initial rating of them was just pepega in the first place

[ripe veldt]

I think this is just an exception

[vague token]

i mean the majority of CAs arent tanks

most of them are dps

just some are tankier while still retaining dps

xD

cough roon

[ripe veldt]

ye

[blissful girder]

right, I'm not sure why Noshiro existing is changing evaluations

it's not like LonKai had to tank before

Maybe torps in w13 got them down though?

[ripe veldt]

you get the standard garbage supertanks like nachi and uh

whatever her clone was called again

[blissful girder]

in which case Noshiro is welcome tec for 'em

[ripe veldt]

myoukou

[vague token]

baltimore was always close to t0 dps but her durability was still a problem

cause if you use eagle cv

it goes down

so noshiro lets you use either option

[ripe veldt]

CAs don't last in pvp anyways

eva issue and getting torp meme'd by meta vanguards

[forest lake]

CAs can just hug Noshi's thighs
-NGA

[vague token]

the nice thing about balti is that her aa is nice

[blissful girder]

I find it funny that gascan got downtiered and Monarch got uptiered to EX

[vague token]

so noshiro covers the last weakness, torps

[blissful girder]

I can't remember if seattlul was already 0.5 or not

but she's 0.5 too

[shy hazel]

well

[forest lake]

I mean doesn't Gascan have shit AA

[ionic magnet]

kizuna CA got down tiered too

[shy hazel]

the guy just assumed that noshiro will always be used

[vague token]

better get dupes

put her in your boss and clear fleet

;))))))))

[blissful girder]

there's no reason not to use Noshiro unless she's at 120 3 mil cap already

[shy hazel]

if u mean pvp

theres no reason to use her unless u use torp memes

[ripe veldt]

but she is a torp meme

[vague token]

i mean if you're skimping on bulge she can help

[blissful girder]

oh, we off-topic'd to NGA pve rankings

[vague token]

eg using a CA

she basically frees up all your cls to not worry about bulge

[shy hazel]

thing is

why the fk even is nga

[blissful girder]

why the fk is anything

[forest lake]

[vague token]

[forest lake]

Non Gay Association

[shy hazel]

now that i read it

it sounds racist

N

G

A

[forest lake]

[shy hazel]

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

if only we had a CA with 90 luck that wasnt a collab

although i might meme black heart

if only she had mgm+1 or something xD

would be fun to use SAP gun with her

[shy hazel]

give unlimited dev levels to pr1 ships

1 luck per 1 dev

dev 100

[vague token]

yeah and how many bps that gonna cost

xD

[shy hazel]

god knows

[empty grove]

Whaling on LCK

[hot creek]

I would totally luck mod best girl Neptune.

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

[forest lake]

Stealing time

[hot creek]

KC had luck modding. Very resource intensive. But you do it to show true dedication to waifu.

[sharp wing]

Shitfu

[zenith tundra]

this are my suruga test so far against 120 teams
https://imgur.com/a/JzJvfcN

[hot creek]

how2get 1.15m xp in 2 hours

[zenith tundra]

give up

[coral wren]

dev 100 sanryu might be a scary shit

[zenith tundra]

u wouldn't even bother with that since u change season as soon as next one comes

plus if the bp scaling stays the same it's most unlikely to get past 40-50

[empty grove]

On what ship?

If it's IJN you could probably do that easy enough

[hot creek]

fdg

[empty grove]

Yeah accept death

[hot creek]

i dont have enough oil anyways

[empty grove]

Atleast you stole first comment on FDG

Wait were you the one who picked FDG first

[hot creek]

no, im doing fdg right now. i pick azuma first

[empty grove]

Iirc someone got a first comment on FDG here, that or i'm getting confused with you on Nep

[hot creek]

I got first comment on Neptune and Azuma.

Won't be there for wave 2 of PR grinders

[zenith tundra]

u won't be there for 3rd 4th 5th and 6th too. once behind always behind

[hot creek]

Well, I wasn't planning on speed unlocking the non DR ships anyways.

I still havent unlocked Ibuki or Izumo either

Roon is ready to construct but I'd rather have an extra ship slot atm

Was Georgia the one with the cool looking barrage? Maybe I'll do her next.

[vague token]

she has the orbital barrage with a SHS component

[hot creek]

Yesss

[empty grove]

Will probs do her next

[vague token]

too bad she has competition from other elite killers

xD

[empty grove]

It's so hard finding a USS ship to use now

Ohh

Norcal

Easy

Vanguard wont be easy tho

[hot creek]

My Norcal has been sitting at lvl 100 untouched since her event

[zenith tundra]

georgia is a boos killer. i don't like her on mobs at all

[empty grove]

Dormed & never used

[hot creek]

I was so hype for her cause back then hte mantra was "mUh AA, eZ fOxEs cOuNter"

then you realize triple BB (sodak/wash/norcal) is pepega.

[empty grove]

The E meta

Reminds me of Trump's wall too

[midnight heron]

wat is dis

[meager dawn]

Suruga

[forest lake]

SuruGA

[meager dawn]

Just Suruga

[forest lake]

I really need to make that SuruGA emote now

[meager dawn]

kaGA emote when

[forest lake]

[hot creek]

Halo push more plz https://puu.sh/EUZnF/927a7e4d48.png

[coral wren]

Nc is cute

[hot creek]

need chapter 13 for independence

would use her for Georgia grind

[forest lake]

[empty grove]

My god

[sharp wing]

[ripe latch]

[forest lake]

[midnight heron]

cant push if no one move

[shy hazel]

they waiting for something

asians and russians waiting for their ny

[forest lake]

[ripe latch]

[gritty saffron]

@forest lake

[forest lake]

Took you long enough
I wondered where you went

Ok gimme a sec

KGV, WarKai, Monarch, Belfast, Ykkz, Juneau
Or
WarKai, Formi, Centaur, Sanrui, Ykkz Juneau

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BglmSOaD1ec8zc6bKwiItf2OcQueoRNxF3UGzlQnHBU/edit?usp=sharing

Here's the tier list if you're interested ^

Remember to check out the equipments section

It's a really important factor

[gritty saffron]

Ok

I didn't have amagi or nagato to climb though

[forest lake]

Nah WarKai Formi Centaur is top tier

You can make that instead

I'd recommend WarKai Formi Centaur Sanrui Ykkz Juneau

[elder crane]

Hiryuu Formi Centaur also works extremely well

needs you to level a ship that isn't too useful in PvE though

the aurora build is another option for vanguard
Juneau Aurora Yukikaze

[forest lake]

Ah I didn't see Aurora ye

[elder crane]

You'll be building FC equips differently with that too
that really needs aurora maxed though, cause otherwise she'll often get deleted before your CVs load

[gritty saffron]

Sanrui is saint Louis?

[elder crane]

Yes

[forest lake]

Loadout should be:
WarKai (flag/top/bottom (depends on the situation)- 406mk6, Nepgun, STAAG, Beaver/Rudder, HPFCR/White Shell/SG Radar
Formi (flag/top/bottom (swapping positions with WarKai)- Vf-17/Reppuu, Barracuda, Albacore, Beaver/Rudder, 100/150 Gasoline
Centaur (top/bottom)- Reppuu, Reppuu/Vf-17, Barracuda, 100/150 Gasoline, Beaver/Rudder (defensive), Steam Catapult/Beacon (offensive)
Aurora (tank)- 3x155mm, mag torps, Roomba (twin 113), Bulge, Pearl's Tears
Juneau (mid)- 138.6mm/2x127mm, mag torps, Roomba (twin 113) Boiler x2/Boiler, Bulge
Ykkz (top)- 2x100mm, mag torps, Bofors, Boiler, Fire Extinguisher

[gritty saffron]

Ok
Raise formi then

[forest lake]

Good luck

Mb didn't include some stuff in

[gritty saffron]

Thanks

[elder crane]

HPFCR on warkai with mk6 is questionable due to it hitting into rudder proc
It's low %, but still

Either triple 381 with HPFCR, or don't use HPFCR with 410AP/mk6

[forest lake]

I don't have HPFCR myself so I don't really know much in that regard

[elder crane]

Also, Juneau tanks fml
And aurora mid, she's too squishy
And if you use Aurora, build Cent offensively, otherwise use a stall vanguard option instead

Offensive build is beacon/avgas and ryuusei
Formi runs same setup

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

while aurora works also, she sometimes have issues getting deleted before your 1st salvo/airstrike

stall VGs are the safer choice with sheff being the best 3rd slot imo

[shy hazel]

hey

[ionic magnet]

bel sanrui works also ig

[shy hazel]

stop spoonfeeding

[ionic magnet]

but we have noshi now

[shy hazel]

link them to the list

[frail orbit]

Siri too smhw
But well

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[frail orbit]

If u wanna buff the airstrike a bit only

Otherwise

[shy hazel]

hey hooloo

[frail orbit]

[shy hazel]

u the biggest

editor of that list

u refer to it always

[frail orbit]

Anyway no Wakai Monarch Cent?

[ionic magnet]

i only edit hms comps

nagato rerun when

[shy hazel]

dont worry

nagato cuck v2 for u

[ionic magnet]

my 600 cubes says nope

[frail orbit]

We already have Nagato tho

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

1.2k cubes u need

[frail orbit]

All the Big 7 that is

[shy hazel]

i voodoo it

[frail orbit]

[shy hazel]

i mean

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

hooloo didnt get

fyi

so he stucc in hms

rathole

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

poor hooloo

[frail orbit]

Only IJN I liked is Mamagi anyway

Nagatoot, have her, not fond of her tho

U know my preference lah