pvp

[coral wren]

Should implement %frommaxhp dmg dealing skills. They could soft reset all that powercreep by adding aux that could give cv or bb a % dmg

[hoary pasture]

noshiro to cuck torps?

[zenith tundra]

noshiro is a torp meme fleet that buff ibuki

[ionic magnet]

yes cos only torps can make you reset at current meta

[meager dawn]

Noshiro the anti-torp torpmeme

[shy hazel]

lets see if we can revive torp memery

[zenith tundra]

azuma will kill torp memes pretty much

[coral wren]

does she really not give a fuck about torps?

A few crit hits should chunk her

[zenith tundra]

can torp one shoot amagi?

answer is no so they cannot azuma too

[ionic magnet]

not one shot ofc but should soften her

[coral wren]

a few hits can take 1/3 her hp

[zenith tundra]

and juneau insta dies and gets her back to full

either way torp memes without juneau will automatically lose because they cannot delete azuma yukikaze juneau

[forest lake]

Yea I might try out Noshiro if I'm lazy to grind for Azuma

Seems promising at least

[hoary pasture]

so uhhhh......... that yuubari and kisaragi retrofit tho

[meager dawn]

meme with shigure kai to give the frontline 5% dmg reduction too

[zenith tundra]

for example juneau mid dies when azuma is around 50% hp on offense

[meager dawn]

no nanoda tho but memes

[zenith tundra]

at that point ur most likely to lose either hiryuu or amagi before either azuma or juneau

[cerulean estuary]

nanoda + fortune mod + suruga
backline % dmg reduction

[zenith tundra]

dmg reduction scaling is not that great with multiple skills

[forest lake]

What're y'all's take on Noshiro Jun Ykkz?

And for good lord don't compare it to Azuma Jun Ykkz

[zenith tundra]

for offense? dunno i wouldn't use torp and solo torp ship ibuki is the best

[forest lake]

True

[meager dawn]

Where's formi

[forest lake]

A little lazy to grind for all the IJN PRs really

[meager dawn]

maximum backline dmg reduction

[forest lake]

Amagi Formi Lusty

[zenith tundra]

lusty has no dr skill tho

[ionic magnet]

if noshiro ykkz jun can hold up vs non torp namryuus (which they should i think) then its p much the best defensive VG

[forest lake]

Good point

[ionic magnet]

better than sheff cos its not rng

[forest lake]

You'd take some damage from torps so it's a pretty neat bonus I guess

[ionic magnet]

free bulge also frees slots for more boilers if you want

[forest lake]

Oh yea true

[ionic magnet]

how does bulge+her skill stack anyways

[forest lake]

[zenith tundra]

but u only save 1 bulge since u wouldn't be using more then 1 imo

[forest lake]

She has like 10k eHP on PVE iirc

On top of those sweat buffs

But that damage dealt to CV bonus is pretty

[ionic magnet]

im thinking of keeping 1 bulge on lead tbh so i can just afk

[zenith tundra]

pretty and rng since u don't know what torp hit

[forest lake]

True

[ionic magnet]

does it stack like 20%+30% dred vs torps

well gotta test later

[zenith tundra]

most likely it's a 44% dr overall from torp

[ionic magnet]

yea

[meager dawn]

44%?

[zenith tundra]

100-20%=80% 80%-30%=56%

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

bulge on nanoda

[meager dawn]

tfw can't equip bulge on

[shy hazel]

no hooloo

no afk for u till nagato comes home

[ionic magnet]

they better not powercreep her til i get her

[past egret]

You’re all up early

[zenith tundra]

nagato ain't going anywhere as long as ships like amagi azuma yukikaze and hiryuu are broken

[ionic magnet]

yea but if they keep making broken solo ships then maaaybe

[meager dawn]

broken solo ships with synergy

[zenith tundra]

that's amagi

[frail orbit]

Meanwhile USN and HMS be like getting crushed keks

[ionic magnet]

my comp is looking ugly
3 hms 2 ijn 1 uss

[forest lake]

4 HMS 1 IJN 1 USS

Soon to be 5 IJN 1 USS

Oh wait forgot I don't have Amagi

[zenith tundra]

uss jesus is best ship remember that

[ionic magnet]

rip immersion

[meager dawn]

Jesuss

[forest lake]

Of all the ships I renamed to their CN names I specifically named Juneau 耶稣

[coral wren]

there are still french ships that we should get

[frail orbit]

All at the time when I wanna start Georgie in hopes of actually making Double E great again

[zenith tundra]

the hardest choice is suruga or noshiro skin... can't decide

[granite flame]

https://azurlane.koumakan.jp/Suruga#Hundred_Flowers.27_Auspice rip no english

are the skills any good

[forest lake]

Damage reduction

[zenith tundra]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1EQPH7w_7TKVpXfYmRGTlgvS7jVt_T1HOAiRKM7jhrNY/htmlview?sle=true

[frail orbit]

Just buy Suruga + Ryuuhou anyway

[ionic magnet]

to be fair noshiro default skin is already good

[frail orbit]

And FDG

[forest lake]

Damage reduction from the start of battle, 5s down time, reactivated at 20s repeat

[ionic magnet]

but just get both

[forest lake]

P nice barrage it seems

[zenith tundra]

i only have gems for 1 after ring pack

[frail orbit]

Meanwhile another IJN cancer all at the time when I wanna start Georgie research in hopes of actually making Double E great again

Feel cucked man

[misty lagoon]

Should I invest on suruga when Im already running namaryuu?

[forest lake]

Guess I'll do Azuma grind
Might still do Noshiro Jun Ykkz if I can

[frail orbit]

Yes

[forest lake]

New meta looks like Namasuruga

[frail orbit]

I'd do Azuma grind too
Sorry Georgie but . . .

[forest lake]

But to be safe just wait about 1-2 weeks before fully comitting

[frail orbit]

I can't fullfil my promise

[zenith tundra]

pr and dr have different dev times

u'll finish georgia before dev 20 azuma

[misty lagoon]

Oh. Yeah that sounds horrifying. Okay then

[forest lake]

Getting a DR to Dev25 is almost the same as PR to Dev30

[granite flame]

bro tf is this

[frail orbit]

At least already got FDG . . .

Dev30 her is the challenge tho, as do Azuma

[granite flame]

im reading the data mine sheet

[meager dawn]

DR ships needing 5 more BP than PR1 fate 5 just to be dev30

[zenith tundra]

and they drop way less often

[frail orbit]

Let's just hope no more fatesim

[granite flame]

Every 20s, 40-70% chance to fire a barrage; This barrage is enhanced in PvP.
While alive, 40-70% chance to trigger when main fleet takes damage, for 15s, main fleet's damage taken reduced by 4.5-12%, 20s cooldown after triggering;
When self hp falls under 20%, heal self for 10%, limited to once per battle.
wow i wish german ships got increased barrages in pvp

or french

or

italian

or american

[ionic magnet]

atleast now we know devs know the word pvp

[meager dawn]

What if that's just the translation tho

[zenith tundra]

she just gets to hit flagship when on the sides

[meager dawn]

[forest lake]

Wait so the damage reduc likely starts about ~7 secs into the battle when torps hit

backline

Seems real nice

Get to reduce both barrage and shells

[frail orbit]

As for HMS there's WaKai so no worries

My real shit is for Double E comp tho . . .
Gonna make it great again but welp, IJN cucked it all over again keks

[forest lake]

Unless JB KGV/Amagi HPFCR

[zenith tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/659696629346992129/2019-12-26_11-58-19.mp4

pvp

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516951413411020819/659712596068401154/2019-12-26_13-01-14.mp4

pve

[frail orbit]

As for HMS there's WaKai so no worries

My real shit is for Double E comp tho . . .
Gonna make it great again but welp, IJN cucked it all over again keks

[forest lake]

So it isn't aimed yea?

[zenith tundra]

from what i can tell it either hits sides too or just flagship spot on the sides

[past egret]

IJN dev bias

[zenith tundra]

i'll test again as flag

in pve her barrage is like washy pretty much with just a wide spread of small stuff and extra torp that for now does like no dmg

kgv pretty much

[coral wren]

Well, kgv's last wave is pure shit. More like a visual effect

[zenith tundra]

is en still in maint?

[meager dawn]

ye

[zenith tundra]

wtf...

[forest lake]

8 hours bud

[meager dawn]

Do her torps hit anything if she's at top

[forest lake]

Gotta expect as much

Depends I guess

[meager dawn]

Cuz I only see her torps going down

[forest lake]

If the enemy VG is at the right spot at the right time

Then

[zenith tundra]

they are like amagi torp only not split i think

[forest lake]

I mean the torp damage is pretty insignificant anyways

[meager dawn]

She can't even hit the backline that is diagonally opposite to her?

with her torps

[zenith tundra]

with vg aroud i guess it's aimed to that

to put it simply she cannot snipe stuff but can hit everything on backlines

now it's her dmg reduction and backlines focused dmg better then hiryuu final counter....

[elder crane]

That barrage seems ass

[zenith tundra]

totally agree

[elder crane]

Now the question is if she's good enough regardless
Seems questionable, might just be stopgap until FdG effectively?

[zenith tundra]

the only positive is that it can hit 2 in pvp

[elder crane]

Pellets are a pseudo-big-7 i suppose

Nah that's a massive negative

[zenith tundra]

i have no clue without data

well positive of current barrage not what it could've been

[elder crane]

Looks like 4/10 goes to sides
That's less focus fire, and wasted shots when not flag

[zenith tundra]

but it might still work with namagi

idk if she gets another wave or not

[elder crane]

Isn't that already 10 shots?
Or at least 8

[zenith tundra]

for pve it's 5

i haven't read any data

[elder crane]

Hmmm
We'll see I suppose

[zenith tundra]

how much is a t3 book? like sl4? from 1

[coral wren]

yes

[zenith tundra]

c maps req fp and aa on all 3

did they fuck up or something

as form?

[keen sparrow]

suruga lv 10 barrage

[elder crane]

The wide spread of 6 shots is same damage as the narrow two-shot snipe, so looks like that's already 8/10, unless there's even more shots than 10 in PvP?

PvE that's 2+6=8/10 as well

[zenith tundra]

maybe another wave of 2 projectiles like the 1st?

[elder crane]

Yeah, from what cyaneko deduced from code, that makes sense

He said that code has it like 2+2+3+3

Pattern is better for PvE at least

[shy hazel]

ppl having fights in #game-feedback right now

too much ijn superiority

i say

just join us in the ijn gang

its a very fun place

[coral wren]

They can bitch all day long, lol. Not like en shit team can do anything

[shy hazel]

but hey

this is just the first event on the new year technically

it will cross over to the beginning of 2020

i expect next events to have better pvp ships too

when was amagi introduced again

[coral wren]

Smug anime pic.png

[shy hazel]

wasnt it about this time too

[coral wren]

Well, was there anything remotely close to amagi in 2k19?

[elder crane]

780 bdmg on opposite ship, assuming 6/10 hit
That's like less than half amagi, bleh，and no enhanced mods vs heavy
Spray+side is unlikely to make up for it
So, worse than Amagi barrage is probably still okayish, but meh

[shy hazel]

nothing came close to amagi

well there is one

nagato

[elder crane]

PR2 is all 2k19, soooooo

Nagato is only 2k19 for us EN plebs

[shy hazel]

ye

technically for en

pr2 is 2020

cos nothing is usable

before that

lol

[coral wren]

Oh shit, ppl are really mad, lmao

I like the birm trump card lol

[shy hazel]

its just mareep i think

well we also talked about this last time too

birm usability in pvp

when she was good in the datamine

but trash in actual

datamine of kgv was supposed to be team buff too

which was made self

[coral wren]

They are arguing with localization team tho, that’s really no use.

[shy hazel]

which made more sense for a prince class

[coral wren]

Uhh, about kgv

Wasn’t that just a mistranslation?

Or did they really change that skill to be a selfbuff from a team buff

[shy hazel]

from how i read it was just

buff

it wasnt explicitly stated to be team or self

its just vague

lol

the datamine is

[coral wren]

Interesting...

[shy hazel]

well if we folo their convo in gamefeed

it seems that text files in the datamines

isnt even final

so there

things can change in that 8 hr maint

[coral wren]

But yeah, if they want to blame someone they should blame yongshi. All interns on discord can do is translation and shitposting

[elder crane]

Basically it's CN players that actually have sway here

[shy hazel]

no

[elder crane]

It's them who got Amagi and Birm adjusted after rioting anyways

[shy hazel]

its jp

[elder crane]

Nah, CN
Devs are CN

[shy hazel]

but the money is jp

[elder crane]

Doesn't matter if they can't read feedback

[shy hazel]

theres the money bias really

[elder crane]

Plus JP is pretty chill

CN are the more hardcore peeps

[shy hazel]

they dont need to riot when everything is made convenient for our beloved ijn

ijn pvp superior race

[ionic magnet]

ppl complaining? i thought noone cares about pvp?

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

ppl say pvp is trash

true

but deep down they still do it

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[forest lake]

[zenith tundra]

what is even pvp relevant in this event?

suruga is mehish at best

noshiro is only relevat till azuma if she is used at all

[shy hazel]

their argument in gf is

they introduced a ship thats more suited to pvp

which was similar to a ship in a diff faction

but was nerfed

[ionic magnet]

is azuma on def even scary
if not then torp meme stays

[zenith tundra]

they got ws kai a while did they already forgot that?

[shy hazel]

if torp meme doesnt kill everyone in the first volley

its useless

[forest lake]

Looks like Noshiro is getting some T-EX treatment on CN

[shy hazel]

because it wont die fast

and azuma wont die in the first volley

[zenith tundra]

from experience i can say that with azuma torp memes are worse on defense then just stalling with azuma

[shy hazel]

so u get ganked fast instead

[ionic magnet]

T-EX?

[forest lake]

My way of saying above T0

[shy hazel]

[forest lake]

[ionic magnet]

oh

[shy hazel]

weird self term

just make it 00

[forest lake]

Sounds good

[zenith tundra]

also slow vg get demolished by azuma mg so ur forced into speed no matter what

[forest lake]

Noshiro: not even T0, EX, maybe just reshuffle the entire CL list, "as tanky as portland and roon with montpelier damage, potentially neptune damage, and buffs"

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

well free bulge with actual dmg so she looks really good

wait

as tanky as port?

how

[forest lake]

Yea her HP is stacked af

[ionic magnet]

eh she has 3.2k hp only right

[forest lake]

Then factoring in EVA buff

Wait gotta check again

[ionic magnet]

her eva buff is confirmed flat rate?

[zenith tundra]

she is a torp ship that everyone talks shit about in gameplay-help saying how gunboats are op...

[shy hazel]

hooloo

they been saying its flat

since awhile ago

u asked that question 3 times alrdy

[ionic magnet]

oooo

[shy hazel]

[ionic magnet]

[forest lake]

Oh it's flat 15% evasion rate

Not EVA buff

[zenith tundra]

her hp is not great tho

3.2k

[ionic magnet]

[shy hazel]

[forest lake]

Guess I'm wrong

[shy hazel]

people like their ehp calculations so much

[forest lake]

But ye 15% EVA rate is

[shy hazel]

i dont even give a f about those things

ill just copy builds

[forest lake]

[shy hazel]

ill wait 5 days

then profit

someone will do their calculations soon

[zenith tundra]

what there is even to know about noshiro

[forest lake]

I just leech off Duncc

[shy hazel]

u even copy my favorite emote

filthy

[ionic magnet]

LOL

[forest lake]

Yes I did

[zenith tundra]

her flat evasion doesn't affect diminishing returns on evasion stat so rudder might still be bis for her

[forest lake]

It's our favourite emote now

[shy hazel]

but well

she has free anti torp skill

so thats free aux slot

wait

[ionic magnet]

rudder pearl ig

[shy hazel]

isnt it even full vg anti torp

[ionic magnet]

yea

full vg

[shy hazel]

truly haram

[ionic magnet]

nanoda with anti torp

omegalul

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

it's still only relevant for 5 sec

[shy hazel]

doesnt really matter

give more choices

when u a filthy pvp newbie

and hates torp meme

[zenith tundra]

more ships to max and oath

[shy hazel]

just use that ship and easier to pass thru

[zenith tundra]

eh people won't have her

[ionic magnet]

i hate torp memes more than anything rn

[shy hazel]

i dont hate anything when i can beat anything

for now

[ionic magnet]

but tbh only angry is the only good torp meme ive seen

[shy hazel]

ill just lvl up noshiro skill and other ship

what name again

the bb

i forgot

[ionic magnet]

thats 1 person in whole server lol

[shy hazel]

suruga ya that

sounds like a monkey in japanese tongue tbh

saruga

[zenith tundra]

that useless bb. wouldn't bother tbh

[shy hazel]

oh what happened

there was hype about her awhile ago

[forest lake]

Ded hype

[shy hazel]

she looks useful in pve at least

all my usefull bbs are lvl 120 alrdy

[zenith tundra]

till people realize her barrage is full aoe and not good for sniping

[forest lake]

[shy hazel]

ill just chuck her in my w13 farming shenanigans

even my izumo is 120 alrdy

that bicc so good in pve

[ionic magnet]

oh suruga died already?

[zenith tundra]

u could say that

[shy hazel]

so lets cross over that suruga

[zenith tundra]

https://discordapp.com/channels/456397991847395339/516951413411020819/659750659263954945

[shy hazel]

new expectation lies on that

noshiro thing

and ryuuhou seems v good in pve

new ships for healing

i just wish that thing had gun to mow down jihad boats

[zenith tundra]

if u like single target healing yes. for now it heals like 60hp at low level and sl1

[ionic magnet]

so the enhanced barrage in pvp is actually meh in pvp?

[shy hazel]

single ship healing in pvp

[ionic magnet]

sasuga AL

[shy hazel]

and what do u mean by 60hp

[zenith tundra]

she just shoots everything in main fleet so useless to kill either amagi or hiryuu

[shy hazel]

60 only? literally

[ionic magnet]

it depends on her max hp

[zenith tundra]

let me take a pic once i finish this clear

[ionic magnet]

so yea shes low level

[zenith tundra]

lv1 sl1 it's 12x2 heal

[frail orbit]

At least her barrage not OP tier . . .

Good then, no riddance for my Double E experiment with Georgie keks

[zenith tundra]

if only georgia would be good at clearing mobs i would level her up

[shy hazel]

i should really update my jp client

lol

yikes

2gb to dl

[zenith tundra]

no wi-fi?

[shy hazel]

not rly

it will be finished in a few mins

it just that

i havent opened it for so long

theres 2gb update

[frail orbit]

@zenith tundra mine just replicate the shit with wakai formie cent keks

[shy hazel]

replicate what

oh update done

i only have 30 cubes tho

heh

[frail orbit]

Wakai snipe, formie cent frying vanguards

Hooloo's config keks

[zenith tundra]

this x 2 at lvl 28 sl 1

[shy hazel]

god bless my jp accnt

i only got kasumi

[zenith tundra]

i spent 120 cubes on kasumi

last build only ship

[shy hazel]

oh jp is so diff to en

or maybe just with this patch

got some weird login stuff

and twitter meme

[zenith tundra]

did u have to relog with twitter or something?

[shy hazel]

no

i meant the ingame twitter meme

with suruga

[zenith tundra]

ah u mean that

it was there from muse event

[shy hazel]

i didnt know that there was a returner event in jp

akashi gave me quests for free stuff

lol

[umbral sparrow]

how to smash the 15k Main

[zenith tundra]

3 bb with bis gear and oathed

36hrs till b/d maps i hate that

[umbral sparrow]

another thing tho

does over use of Juneau is bad?
i always use her lmao

[zenith tundra]

best vg ship in pvp imo

[umbral sparrow]

vg?

[zenith tundra]

vanguard

[inner quiver]

her martyr skill + pearl's tears very good

[meager dawn]

slapping that on her

[zenith tundra]

in ws kai meta u should use pearl on juneau

[jovial sedge]

Hmm what a long meint

[hoary pasture]

meint

[frail orbit]

Btw about GEE

Since Georgie's barrage being aimed at backliners

Wanna ask something

Might try to use Essex on 818 and make her launch faster than Enty, then Enty on Ryusei + Pirate to negate Ryusei's slow launch

How's it to complement Georgie?

So basically a makeshift WFC

[ionic magnet]

do we have clips of noshiro barrage
im seeing ppl say its really good

[zenith tundra]

don't have her

farming... 4k only

[ionic magnet]

only

thats fast already

[frail orbit]

[zenith tundra]

the only have essex air dmg reduction as a fleet buff. outside of that dunno if it can do good or not since i'm not sure u can use georgia to snipe stuff in pvp

[ionic magnet]

@frail orbit should still be good to some extent but not having warkai in this meta is

[frail orbit]

@ionic magnet which is why a bit welp tbh, but well, georgie needs her 457 in the future anyway so well

And so does wakai
And FDG

[meager dawn]

slap 457mm on everyone

[frail orbit]

[meager dawn]

hell slap it on your frontline

[ionic magnet]

[meager dawn]

[zenith tundra]

and let yukikaze live forever

[frail orbit]

Atm am sure Yukikaze is Lu Bu anyway

[split socket]

Hows surugas barrage? Stats wise and skillwise she looks like she could replace nagato when ppl have a usable fdg for a tanky af backline consisting of suruga (flag) + amagi and fdg

[frail orbit]

Not even

[zenith tundra]

it's spread across enemy backlines. we need sl 10 and some levels to see dmg

datamine dmg wasn't looking that good

[split socket]

Hm well guess well have to w8 a bit to see then, cause her tankiness is looking rly strong otherwise

[meager dawn]

mfw I read w8 as world 8 instead of wait

[zenith tundra]

in this discord w8 pretty much means that

[cerulean estuary]

7 more minutes left till we get 4 hrs extended maintenance

[zenith tundra]

seems like a really long maint... wonder why

[meager dawn]

normal maint

they said 8 hours

it's gonna be 8 hours

[zenith tundra]

in jp when they say 4hr i expect around 3hr and for 6 it's usually 4-5hr

[meager dawn]

yus it's up

[shy hazel]

time for disappointment

[jovial sedge]

🤔

[ionic magnet]

took 45 rolls

not bad

[shy hazel]

[zenith tundra]

did u get noshiro too?

[shy hazel]

60 rolls got nothing

time to quit

[ionic magnet]

no noshiro
just suruga kasumi ryu

[jovial sedge]

Did 5 rolls got suruga.. This chinese event : /

[shy hazel]

what is even timer

of suruga and kasumio

[ionic magnet]

idk i hate timers

[zenith tundra]

i never look at those

[ionic magnet]

i just skip

[shy hazel]

mmm

ill just go as usual

i can always quit

[zenith tundra]

what's en timer for b/d maps?

[shy hazel]

55 hours

poggers

[zenith tundra]

wait wtf

[shy hazel]

and u tot

jp was bad

heh

[zenith tundra]

it is bad not as bad as en

[shy hazel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/468804193646542849/659774274705293312/unknown.png

oh

52

[zenith tundra]

2 days... why

[golden fable]

[zenith tundra]

anyone that can show noshiro barrage?

[mild spruce]

@zenith tundra

[zenith tundra]

nice thx

a cl with dd barrage

[ionic magnet]

hmm

those are HE bullets right

looks good

[zenith tundra]

looks kind of broken for a torp ship with already great buffs

[zenith tundra]

another 26 c3 clears for noshiro.... i hate this event already

[serene saddle]

Do u think suruga will be the new ijn cancer?

[zenith tundra]

nope

her barrage dmg is too spread

plus a 20s cd...

might be good for stalling on def tho

[hot creek]

They increased price of ring pack

[mild spruce]

Did they?

Pretty sure it was always 980

[forest lake]

Wait they did?

How much is it now

[zenith tundra]

not always. a long time ago it was 900 iirc

[hot creek]

960

[forest lake]

Wait that's cheaper

[mild spruce]

Sneaky

[forest lake]

Compared to the last time at least

[hot creek]

no they used to be 960, now its 980

[forest lake]

Oh

Wasn't it 980 during anniv?

[hot creek]

it was always 960

actually nvm

[forest lake]

[hot creek]

Im not sure anymore

I just always rememberd ring pack rings as 20% off normal price rings, which would be 480. which comes to 960 for two of em

but I look up my gem budgeting excel from months ago and I have it listed as 980

[forest lake]

gem budgeting excel

Doing that would just make me reconsider life

[hot creek]

poor person life

but it help me decide which skins I wanted vs which skin I needed

[forest lake]

I just do it in my brain

[waxen lion]

ring packs

[zenith tundra]

they added the skip comp thing before battle but still force u to change fleet every time u enter a map

[midnight heron]

[vague token]

only got ryuuhou =/, wanted suruga xD

ran out of gold rip

[waxen lion]

opposite for me

[elder crane]

Hehehe
Just the Elite missing for me
Even pulled Noshiro

All in 30 pulls :3

[midnight heron]

[sharp wing]

luccsaccs

Are there any subs in event maps

[midnight heron]

i just started lul and i brought overkill fleet rip oil

[forest lake]

No subs so far

Maybe in B/D

or never

[vague token]

i gotta do 3 ch12 runs first before i start event xD

[midnight heron]

bad game making me kill torp fox waifu in event

[sharp wing]

Commit sepuku

This event is RIP to wallet-kun

Damn oni waifus

Gems already diminished from 8k to 6k

[midnight heron]

also wtf ryuuhoe just self destructs

[sharp wing]

haha

Remember Spee SP?

[midnight heron]

my gem count never reached above 1k

ya lul

[plain carbon]

So I guess Noshiro is a Jintsuu sidegrade?

that might be better in PvP?

[sharp wing]

She can buff buki, so 100%

Anything that can buff buki and is not trash is already good enough

[midnight heron]

lul

[sharp wing]

T1 sasuga

Wait, Why is Hatsu there

[shell heron]

my lucksacc days seem to be ending. only pulled 4 event ships in 50.... 3 of which are kasumis

[vague token]

honestly t1 pve is not bad given her kit isnt really meant for it

[plain carbon]

and Ryuuhou becomes the best healer in the game I guess?

[coral wren]

Hatsu new Retrofit

[plain carbon]

not counting juneau

[sharp wing]

Hatus retro not in NE

Wait, we got mutsuki or what retro

[coral wren]

Kisaragi

[sharp wing]

ewww

[plain carbon]

wait wht

[coral wren]

[plain carbon]

she has a better PvP barrage?

[sharp wing]

yes

[plain carbon]

but is it really good tho?

[shell heron]

better jintsu, it's jintsuu but can also buff ibuki for max torp memes

[sharp wing]

it just adds extra small pellets spread

I need to find my Kisa

[plain carbon]

well how much is her dmg reduction?

it just says "decreases the dmg the main fleet takes"

[sharp wing]

12%

[plain carbon]

thats a quiet good skill

15s for 12% reduction

[sharp wing]

w/ nanoda 20%

[plain carbon]

and can procc every 20 seconds

omg I see stalling PvP lines

[sharp wing]

so offense potentially 40% reduction

Pepega

[plain carbon]

Yuki / Noshiro / Juneau
Suruga / Hiryuu / Amagi

they might not win

but it sure as hell takes ages to take em down

[sharp wing]

buki noshiro

[vague token]

personally id consider skipping ykkz if you're running suruga

and opt in for more damage on vg

eg ibuki

[plain carbon]

I was just thinking about defense stall in PVP

[sharp wing]

skip juneau more

nanoda buki noshiro

Namasuga

That def is rekt by any cv comp tho

same as ws def anyway

[vague token]

just toss in sandy instead xD

[sharp wing]

welp, too many games going on atm, gotta hurry w/ dis event daily 3x

reset 20 mins pepega

Don't forget to oath Kawaiikaze

Funniest thing, haven't got CBT invite? Playstore early acces out of limit? Just DL apk and play

[zenith tundra]

if u want stall just use belfast juneau yuki

[sharp wing]

stall is shit, need torpmeme

Stall will come back to life w/ My Wife

on def

[zenith tundra]

stall will be back with azuma

so half year

[sharp wing]

that's what i said

[zenith tundra]

he asked for a stall comp i gave what i think is a stall comp

[sharp wing]

Wait, I don't see mommy skin?

EN pepega

[midnight heron]

[shell heron]

torp meme became even more meme with noshiro

I'll have to run that as def now

[sharp wing]

CHEATCODE

noshiro buki new torpmeme

actually for pve there few buffers for buki, but pvp ...

[sharp wing]

Oh wait... Shinano

[jovial mural]

The question has probably already been answered, but are there any good ship in the event?

i mean both in pvp and pve

[sharp wing]

noshiro, suruga, cvl

well, for pvp yet to see

noshiro for torpmemes and suruga for namagi

[midnight heron]

saw suruga sl1 barrage and its spread is so big lmao wtf

how is dat a tight barrage

from youtube vid

[zenith tundra]

i feel like the barrage dmg is not that good but using lvl 67 suruga against lvl 88 enemies might not be a good indicator of that

[midnight heron]

anyway her barrage already makes placing her at the side kinda unfeasible cuz u just gonna whiff half of it

unless u want her just for defense buff

might hav to see if sl10 adds focused dmg bullets to justify it

[zenith tundra]

if u want nagato buff it might be worth using on sides but outside of that not really

[charred sable]

RIP this season, missed 4 attacks cause of maintenance and waking up late

[sharp wing]

So many translation typos

By 3* A2 i already seen like 4-5

Starting with not translated dialogue header in opening scene

[elder crane]

Side Suruga apparently misses 2/10 of the large shots which is whatever, not too big of a deal
halfish of the spray as well, but the spray is whatever too
overall, she loses around as much as KGV

she doesn't seem that good offensively to begin with though, which is troubling

[zenith tundra]

sl4 barrage dmg is pitiful like 1/4 mg dmg on light and 1/3 on medium

[coral wren]

@midnight heron that’s only a level 1 barrage though

The guy didn’t max it out

We’ll have to see if a level 10 skill will tighten the grouping

[zenith tundra]

i still feel like there isn't much to improve. her barrage dmg will be meh no matter the sl and the small projectile hit for literally nothing

[coral wren]

We’ll see

Also that was a level 1 Suruga if that changes your judgement in anyway

[zenith tundra]

i have a lvl 68 suruga with sl4...

[coral wren]

Bruh

[finite valve]

anyone here is using mumu?

the emulator i mean

[zenith tundra]

i use memu if that's what u mean

[finite valve]

nope

[sharp wing]

that's diff

[finite valve]

memu =/= mumu

[zenith tundra]

ok

[finite valve]

those are 2 different emu

confusing i know lol

[zenith tundra]

yeah

[sharp wing]

mumu is the one from game devs?

NetEase made

[hot creek]

memu is so clearly inferior to nox. but im still pissed at nox for sneaking in adware during an update

[zenith tundra]

does nox stutter at all?

[hot creek]

it does but not nearly as much as memu

but ill live with it

memu full on freezes during multiple airstrikes

[zenith tundra]

ldplayer used to work great for me till second last update. then it started getting 4 fps for 5s in pvp at the beginning

[sharp wing]

I use Bs with no issues for a while, also jumped off of Nox train

using Bs for like 1.5 years

Nox devs have zero respect to their userbase

[zenith tundra]

i used to use bs then tried ldplayer and it felt much smoother

[sharp wing]

i tried LD

It's a knockoff of any other feature reach player

without features

[zenith tundra]

i only use emu for al and don't need much more then it running the game without lag spikes

[sharp wing]

I run 2-3 instances of BS at any time multitasking my games

I need to start dropping some...

7 games atm

And running warframe in background most of time too

That noshiro wallpaper in A3

[midnight heron]

idk memu worked best for me

[hot creek]

memu has already crashed more times in my first month using it than in all my time using nox.

[midnight heron]

not sure wat happened on the arm update thingy but i had to increase cpu allocation to get it working smoothly again

had no problems with memu on my pc so its prob just hardware diff

[elder crane]

so far literally nox is the only emu that doesn't lag out on me
nox is just slower to load anything than my phone, but is smooth once running

just the whole adware/spyware thing is pepega

[vague token]

nox ran great for like a couple months before the presumed ad/spyware killed it for me

[shy hazel]

plebs

use bluestack premium

[zenith tundra]

bs for me has consistent frame drops. not too bad but far from smooth

[shy hazel]

tbh them emulatora is like

system dependent

memu tho

who even uses that

either u bs or nox

or buy a new phone

[zenith tundra]

my new phone should be here tomorrow or monday. still not gonna play all the time on a small screen when i sit all day at my pc

[shy hazel]

i dont even watch my al screen

phone size is good enuf

i can do better things on pc

[zenith tundra]

i have 2 monitors so 1 if free

[shy hazel]

u wasting that electricity and space i tell u

[zenith tundra]

because my phone wouldn't use electricity

[shy hazel]

its cheaper hey

[vague token]

can finally start event, gotta get money for building xD

[hot creek]

i have a good phone but i dont wanna be constantly draining and charging the battery while faming.

[zenith tundra]

to anyone that has noshiro. does her 2nd skill say it buff torp stat or damage?

[keen sparrow]

if dmg that will kaboom

free torpedo bulge

[forest lake]

Only 1 AoA throughout the whole battle

[ionic magnet]

that crit rate buff wasnt there yesterday right

[zenith tundra]

i saw that from datamine

[ionic magnet]

[keen sparrow]

if can stack with jintsu retro skill

[ionic magnet]

its different from datamine

only torps

[elder crane]

wrong

that's datamine desc

actual datamine skill effect is 12% critrate all munitions

yes, 12%

AL devs being pepega as usual

Noshiro is seriously looking like our current flex slot option

this is hilarious

[vague token]

wait, 12 to all weapons?

huge nani?

[keen sparrow]

12% is big

[zenith tundra]

so 12% crit rate to all weapons for all ships in vg?

[vague token]

should be fun in pve to run bisco/roon/noshiro if that's true

huuuge kms crit rate

or z1

for the crit damage

[ionic magnet]

"kms" with noshiro kek

[vague token]

i mean with noshiro + biscuit we're talking 32 added crit rate

given most ships have like what, around 10ish by default

that's a lot of crit

inb4 bug fix

[zenith tundra]

and all of that just to buff roon...

[vague token]

big deeps

or if we ever get shark retros

CB sharks ;)

and of course any other high crit rate vg or crit damage vg will benefit

pushing ibuki to 60+

[zenith tundra]

the only 2 ships that really shine because of that crit are jintsuu and ibuki tho

[vague token]

sheffield to like ~30 crit rate

with 30% crit damage

z1 for 50% crit damage

[zenith tundra]

i mean crit dmg boost who cares about crit rate

[vague token]

i mean more is better

long as you dont overcap

[zenith tundra]

it's a 6% dmg boost for any vg ship

doesn't matter if has extra or not

only jintsuu and ibuki get more

[vague token]

sheffield gets crit damage

dorsetshire gets crit damage

z1 gets crit damage

z1 gets the most

since she has no way of adjusting her own crit rate

the other two do obviously

black prince will be pushed to 60% crit rate for dd guns

xD

[keen sparrow]

10k crit torpedo

[zenith tundra]

z1 is out of question since she needs z vg

sheffield is a good boost

[vague token]

i mean you can just run z1 and z23 and noshiro

it's fine

or z46

[zenith tundra]

dorsetshire is she even used at all

[vague token]

i didnt say whether the ship was useful

im saying that they get a lot out of crit boosts

[zenith tundra]

z23 torp suck dick tho

[vague token]

z23 doesnt get as much since she has 100% crit on skill

so z46 would be better

no wasted stats

oh yeah york aux will be pushed to like 90% crit rate lol

or w/e

[zenith tundra]

again crit rate stacking without boost to crit dmg is a meme

[vague token]

so the most reasonable benefits of 12% omni crit are going to be sheffield and z1

i mean, there arent exactly many Any Vanguard Raw Damage Boost skills

like at all really xD

most affect core stats, or are limited in some way on who can receive it

[zenith tundra]

hopefully they will fix it and be torp crit only

[vague token]

probably

or maybe like 6 for torp, 6 for any (so 12 total for torp)

[forest lake]

Oh ok her AoA isn't only one

Wiki being pepega

[ionic magnet]

whats AoA

[vague token]

her all out assault

[forest lake]

All out Assault

[ionic magnet]

oh

[vague token]

the wiki says On Entry like a sub

lel

[ionic magnet]

[forest lake]

Wiki says it only procs at the start of battle

But it's pepega

[vague token]

[forest lake]

Yea I might run Noshiro Jun Ykkz if I'm lazy to farm Azuma

[zenith tundra]

using rng to beat rng. just the thought is hurting tbh

[hot creek]

cancer 3.5

[vague token]

thanks ijn bias

every day we stray further from the light

[keen sparrow]

ibuki/noshiro/jintsu

[ionic magnet]

is it just me or is wiki acting up again

[vague token]

when isnt wiki acting up

[ionic magnet]

[vague token]

gotta complain about the plane tables every so often

all those wiki editors

[shy hazel]

someone here

should apply

for wiki mod

show them pvp coding skills

[forest lake]

[lean geode]

while I’m sure this has been asked a million times and it’s early to say, is suruga as good as she seems?

she seems meta defining

[forest lake]

She used to look good

until her barrage just spreads everywhere

[lean geode]

I thought it was a tight barrage

[forest lake]

Just eliminates the sniping 1 ship away

Everyone did

But it already started to die down when her barrage is timed and not on gun fire

[lean geode]

Yeah that kinda sux

[frail orbit]

I'd rather use her as interim for FDG til she's D30 anyway

Besides, Naga buffs her so gud grief smhw

[vague token]

she's still reliable for huge damage reduction if your comp needs it

[frail orbit]

As for Noshiro
Sad couldn't pull her since I need to research Georgia keks

[vague token]

just her offensive output is not as great

[frail orbit]

At least not fooken Hiryuu

Bkoz kinda disliked SouHi's forehead smhw

[forest lake]

[frail orbit]

And the fact that Hiryuu's being a cancer keks

[sacred oracle]

Hearing two warspites yell “BELLA DURA DESPICIO” at the same time in pvp is super trippy

[smoky elk]

Despacito* indeed

[sacred oracle]

Feels like it’s a 50/50 whether it’ll be one voice twice as loud or two voices separated by a microsecond

[hoary pasture]

so SuWuRuWuGuWu didnt make fdg d30 dead on arrival then? damn how sad

atleast jintsuu kai ni-shiro lived up to her hype

[vague token]

we're still waiting to see if the crit is "bugged"

cause someone said it currently gives 12% crit to all attacks

[hoary pasture]

isnt she op regardless lol?

i thought it was agreed that she was already overloaded as is with the original thought that her 12% was just to torps

[frail orbit]

Which is why this event's kinda a disappointment for me

No OP oppai ships

Also as per the translation said, nothing said 12% on torps only tho.

[forest lake]

12% crit rate for all VGs

Meaning it applies to everything

[frail orbit]

Kinda expected more variation to Namagi

Got a disappointment instead

[forest lake]

Idk I might want to try Nagato Suruga HiryuuKai Noshiro Buki Ykkz

[shy hazel]

i mean

[forest lake]

Til I get Amagi at least

[shy hazel]

ppl can use saruga for def fleet

is still good for harassment

[frail orbit]

I'd rather wait til she hits lv100 anyway

MLBed and maxed SL

[vague token]

suruga can definitely troll by sheer ehp

aka time waster comp

[frail orbit]

Then she'd be a makeshift FDG til FDG's d30

And some interim thingy alongside my 2 double CV team (Fried Chicken and Double E)

[vague token]

and then the ultimate troll, fdg/amagi/suruga

armor rudder amagi

aka take ten years to die comp

[frail orbit]

Just bkoz wakai being boring af smhw

I need fooken oppai for PVP dahm it

[vague token]

just toss some aa on vg like sandy to troll double cv comp

[frail orbit]

FdG Amagi Suruga . . .

[vague token]

the wall

xD

[frail orbit]

Seeme like it'd fullfil my wish of pvp oppai

Oppai wall

[vague token]

trump should use that team

[frail orbit]

Imagine them shit goin bounced off by 3x2 oppai rudder

[midnight heron]

i'll be waiting.......in 2021

[vague token]

ill probably use one ring on suruga and one ring for me since we got a pack xD

[frail orbit]

Gonna marry her ASAP
Also, marry Ryuuhou

Just bkoz oppai oneesama of the event keks

[finite valve]

is ryuu even good in either pvp or pve?

her skill is soo meme

[frail orbit]

PvE only smhw

[finite valve]

1 skill is okish

[frail orbit]

But well am marrying not really for PVP

[finite valve]

2 skill is just bad

[forest lake]

Ryuuhou?

She's good for PVE it seems

[frail orbit]

Am more for dickpick anyway

[finite valve]

for the heal

[forest lake]

You don't use full time healers in PVP

[finite valve]

but you can use uni or shouhou for that

feel like she is just whatever

[frail orbit]

Yes but am just liked oppai that much nowadays

[forest lake]

Subs might play a big role in W14 if it comes

So ye

I prefer Ryuuhou over Uni or Shouhou anyway

[frail orbit]

And thicc thighs

[finite valve]

yeh cus of boob

[vague token]

i use sub calls a lot (autosub) so she'll be good for me

[elder crane]

Ryuuhou imo is now best healer
Question is if enough to really matter much

[finite valve]

we know

[forest lake]

I mean

Just go x2 Toolbox

Don't think you'd be dealing any significant damage anyway

[frail orbit]

And well
Bit better than Uni/Shouhou tbh

[finite valve]

for 3:1 sure

[elder crane]

Like, in 1:1/2:1 she heals more
1:2/2:2 around same
1:3/2:3 worse
3:1/3:2 better
3:3 around same

[forest lake]

Using x2 Toolbox on her brings her heal up to 350/tick I think

[elder crane]

Almost 400 actually

[vague token]

obviously if you're using azuma or roon you dont need to use her ;)

[elder crane]

Ykkz literally immortal

[vague token]

but using azuma in pve is

[frail orbit]

And we don't know what is w14 anyway

[finite valve]

feel like she is there to make meme comp work

[elder crane]

3600 healing basically prints a new vanguard ship

[vague token]

can we get a ship that summons production ships yet

[finite valve]

for 1 VG

[elder crane]

She spreads each tick of heal individually

[vague token]

or like a mechanic like cats that lets us attach productions to our fleet xD

[elder crane]

So it always goes where it's needed

[finite valve]

really?

[elder crane]

Also heals main fleet in a pinch

[finite valve]

from the wording i thought she heal only 1

[elder crane]

Nah, each individual tick is retargeted

[finite valve]

[forest lake]

3 ticks/strike

[vague token]

each heal is targeted separately

aka it gets heals where they're needed

mostly

[elder crane]

Also scales off own base HP, which is higher than most vanguard

Massively higher than DDs ofc