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well, when fires do like 700-900 damage per tick, u cannot expect zombie to actually negate that?
they could also make georgia barrage 100%, 80% is not enough for her mgm+1
Amagi 100% barrage
not mine. she has a tendency to not shoot 1st for some reason
she at best has 50% in pvp...
Maybe it's just me remembering all those amagi procs in pvp
so many times u have naga amagi 0 barrages
what is with that
Or I wasn't looking/paying attention at the screen when she didn't proc 
anything not 100% is not consistent... having sora not shoot barrage at 96% proves it
that's 0 barragesa
Enemy Enty is always consistent 

too bad that enemy enty is not that dangerous to even matter
even more when she dies to ws barrage
I don't even know where this came from
I'm guessing when people were able to fully retro her 
Also WS should be whiffing at least one of those 
4.8k 
yeah, these numbers are just off
ain't 4.8k kind of low?
4.8k is low? Then my warspite is pretty trash 
ok i'm blind and can't see small numbers it 6.5k
Doesn't matter, she dodge everything 
well, no carrier has that shitload of hp
New UI™
for once i see phoenix point on small stuff
zeppelin is the highest
zep med armor
lucky i play on emu most of the time

i don't miss how ugly it was
sara has surprisingly high hp though, 7513 at 200
more readable for sure
for w/e reason
sara retro, look at pre retro
I miss only the text I think
They still haven't added back the leaderboard function that snaps to your current position.
oh yeah the lexingtons are all pretty decent
but home button is godsend. A worthy sacrifice I suppose.
sara isn't considered a tank for no reason
new UI had a home button along with it?
she get's over 200 hp from retro before oath modifiers
or was that added later
it was from beginning
it was there with rework
i also didn't use it for a while... now i can't live without
Definitely not there during old UI. Unless I was blind the whole time 
not there
it appeared only with rework
u would remember such an amazing feature
home button is amazing
You know what I remember? My "Conserve Energy" sign being in english. 
Maybe today is the day I will finally make a bug report for it.
the only thing i miss from en server are translated ship lines


is there a way to view furniture names without them being cut off like this
https://puu.sh/ES6Gb/e04f60e2d5.png
premium food
you just wait and pray
It will give you satisfaction

the one and only answer is to change server
Watch last seconds of season ticking away and u see tickets burn with it
who's chibi animation gives them an angry expression? I'm surprised QE's chibi doesnt go 
so u can sandbag to ur heart content
not on mine
even with top scores u don't really end up top 10 end reset
he is 5/10
pushed all before reset
and it's already not gensui rush
at this time of season it's ded
every1 sandbag 
But ofc EN population and activity much lower than weeb servers
again it depends on server. i could still get +3s by camping rushers if i wasn't 7 behind this season
depends on region more like...
population even more
or rather game version
is it just me or did they take away the bug report channel 
your link works fine thanks. but it doesn't show up normally in my list
https://puu.sh/ES6M5/d3e8774b89.png
you have it collapsed
OhISee
muted+collapsed
lel
filthy casual jk
welcome to discord
Minimalistic style
the only i don't have muted are pvp and trophy room
i wish i could mute the everyone pings for server up...
u can remove notifications for that?
i have the channel on mute but still get the ping
i have only mentions. sometimes i go to #gameplay-help to spend some time
🇫 discord
and it's so much rarder then the 1st grind
Just think of it as the ibuki grind 
I never unlocked ibuki 


i'm bored. have to spend time is some way since i'm not home
Btw, between stacking staag+white shell+hpfcr vs white shell/hpfcr+sg/rudder/beaver which one more preferable?
On wakai
i usually prefer sg rudder because it helps keeping her alive if u go full dmg and still miss her 1st barrage it's worse.
i don't usually play wakai tho
Hpfcr+SG so her shells won't hit into Rudder
rudder sg is working wonders for me (warkai+FC)
shes too squishy without any eva gears
the bonus dmg you get from shells/hfcr is so tiny anyways
well if you can hide her from enemy barrages then maybe you can get away with no eva
but id rather be safe so yea
there's no safespot against cancer 3.0
The only channels I dont have on mute are #server-news, #game-news and #cosplay 
when we got the PR2 update
20 medals though, while purple Bullins are 30
but I guess Im pretty close to done max-LBing everyone so its fine
isnt the store a personal RNG reset? Or is it server-wide?
Dunno about the items, but I'm pretty sure the ships are server wide
yeah, I meant the items, since the blueprints would reset with that daily I assume
yea the items also server wide
in jp it's only exchange. and they aren't that common too

fuck me
grinded 3 hours for amagi
didnt notice xp grind 2 needs vanguard
HAHAHA
0% progress


better work then 100 affi 
which are the top 3 pvp fleets
Check tier list in pins
Do we know anything about Suruga yet?
No, and unlikely to until CN gets their patch predownload
I wonder if she'll shift the meta.
she would need to be really broken to change the meta considering what's around. dunno if ijn haters around could handle another amagi
will they count suruga as a crossover? xD
she'll be pretty bad if so
neptunia tier oh boi
last even ships weren't so bad
it was more 50/50 bad vs usable
for collab standards that's great
also aqua is like top tier sub and shibuki is also very good so far from usable level
to be fair the v part barely matters with that doubled take off speed
xD
she's just a strong torpedo boat
cause the "air" barrage is just a torpedo barrage
not really since it actually hits stuff unlike torp
It's not crossover so far
i mean that doesnt change the function, it's just superior delivery
well, her actual gear is whatever, skill planes are what matters
gear is more of avi boost

Just equip gold comet
isn't barrage based on torp?
it's used for plane dmg
heccdivers will load too long with +100%
yeah, her whopping 80% efficiency with 2x cooldown
not even like half reload, it's based on the cooldown
so we're talking 35+ seconds for one 80% dive bomber
xD
yeah, not point to bring helldiver tbh
she is literally just a superior torpedo barrager
well, her DD reload
going from centaur reload or w/e to dd reload shouldnt cut it down that much
cent has more planes
number of planes shouldnt matter, it's averaged out
whether you have 8 planes or 100 planes, the base take off speed is a weighted average
eg if you have more of one plane, it factors more into your cd than the rest
relatively yes
this is right after her launch
isnt that the barrage at the 20?
actually 200 avi is not that bad...
that's the barrage skin
and that's lvl 90 with helldivers
500 damage
im pretty sure that's her barrage
she launches airstrike after 24s and it takes another 2-3s to land
if you run helldiver her plane take off should be around 40
wut, plane take off is reload times weighted times 2.2 + .1
assuming helldiver, 11.88 * 2.2 * .79 (217 reload) + .1
btw, was she fixed?
so this description is completely whack
xD
does it also relaunch at 40?
cause maybe they mean only after the first
in which case the description is still whack
well
just a bit?
lol
2nd launch seems around 2:15
her load time is normal
however, her planes take off 4s after activation
what
instead of instantly
lmao
so why did they even put reload in the description
who knows
cause tl-san is a dum-dum
lol
then can use heccdivers i guess
i mean, i bet if i google translated that it wouldnt be that bad
also this cucks bombercuda
can't sync that with BBs on auto 
tho 20 avi boost at 200 base at 120 still pretty good
at least at lower lvls
would run gold bomber still at least sub 100
google tl
The third equipment frame has been changed to a bomber frame. However, the exterior of the equipped bomber is "Mach 2.42 Oyanake, the preparation time for air attack is increased by 100%. Special air attack Lv.10 every 20 seconds during battle
no, "preparation time" not "load time"
aka the delay from hitting the airstrike button to when planes actually hit

im pretty sure no one would get that
her planes are really slow to take off
because why would anyone even assume that's a mechanic lol
yeah, the wording is pepega
the tl then made it even worse, lol
well
just say "delays X s before launching planes" and it makes sense
none of this "+100%" nonsense 
lol
it wouldn't be the 1st time
ryuujou?
yes
i think that's different, at least according to wiki description
which says it triggers just after you load an airstrike
or is that the preparation thing too?
only that the delay is after u launch airstrike not load
but here it affects actual planes instead
and u need to activate strike
just changed trigger from load to launch

they cudve just google translated the cn description
translator why xD
i checked the description for fubuki and akagi for reference and they use diff terms for reload time and preparation time
so idk y they use the word "reload" on en
that's why en should have devs not just translators

a dev ahould know that there is difference in between terms
EN has translators?
well, only CN has dev
but somehow jp translation is actually good vs en
and again they could hire native en speakers to be devs too
it would make the translation much better
Also they can hire good translators, but those won't know ingame mechanics
in some sense jp is similar to cn in terms of language
so
its definitely harder to translate to en than to jp
wiki and ingame can differ, cause wiki often translates themselves
that's why i'm asking
it's different from in game
well, wording a bit differ, but it's same
as well as second skil
that Airstrike load time is misleading
It's not airstrike cooldown
it doesn't say reload then again load time might be interpreted as reload. it should definitelly be preparation time or something like that
well yeah
or, they could just say "When launching planes, there is a X seconds delay"
bad choice of word on their part then 
Also like, not "+100%" but "+ X s"
no load time or any of that
take Ryuojou skill and that's it...
because load/reload have only one use for the majority of ships
i guess in the game there is an airstrike preparation time so the 100% increase is what they used as a variable for her
But it's actually not correct too, cause they take like 4 secs delay
real load time is very short
im pretty sure the increase is more than 100% compared to normal cvs
@zenith tundra and again they could hire native en speakers to be devs too
They won't hire overseas devs, I already asked 
but base load time not 2 sec
I think they mean "time until planes drop ordinance"
which they make work by also slowing down launch animation
I think somewhere load time for airstrike was 0.1 or something
where's cyaneko when we need him
otherwise, planes fly off screen before payload drops
is the time of plane droping their load also based on plane speed?
like using 100/150 would make them reach targets faster then without
idk man planes dont seem to hav to reach targets to launch their loads
yeah, on CN wiki they add 0.1 to reload time on carriers for that "airstrike loading" or what they call it "forward roll"
but it doesn't make any sense when +100% makes it 4 secs, lol
well, planes have certain range in which they can drop bombs, so ye, faster speed means faster ammunition dropping
too bad shibuki can't use cv aux
it would be fun to see if plane speed affects anything
well, her skill planes depend on torp, so just put oxy
actually, i'd like them to make her actual planes also scale from torp
at lvl 100 she has 175 avi
i mean would 600 "aviation" on an 80% efficiency slot be that great?
it would be decent
it would perform similar to normal cvs
you only get 1 plane
i would take that
i was just curious if changing plane speed would affect her long preparation speed
xD
definitely not broken
2 divers
she has no surface barrage tho
i mean that's collab standard, no class based barrage
so somehow they managed to make 1 actually good finally
which is one of reasons they are bad\
well, Kizu bb and CA are op at lvl 100 gap
they just trash at 120 cause similar stat growth as BCs
CA basically gain nothing relevant after 100
so it was kinda funny...
and i think we got em at lvl 110 cap?
So they kinda had a bit of time to shine
kizu CA still has double damage reduction skills
so she's usable in the same way portland is as long as you're under 30 seconds
never wated my time with them
yeah, just no eva growth past that 100 mark almost
i mean, 15% dr + 15% dr is better than having 70-80 base evade
well....
especially on a non-retro CA
that isnt ijn
much less 5k base hp
she is literally just a wall
she'll never do anything more than be a wall
of course at that point you might as well use roon xD
which is basically most CAs
she gains 900 hp though xD
ye
so weird
At lvl 100 Kizu CA has HIGHEST eva
lol
from top 1 to bottom one
Kizu highest eva at 100
in 20 levels
but gains almost nothing after
although she does have good luck at least for a CA
CAs with luck are hard to come by
only Wichita and 2 collabs have worse eva at 120
without losing other stats
i mean she is extra thicc
if azuma had actual eva with 8k hp...
imagine port eva on azuma
plz no
with heavy armor
Azuma is in top 1/3 of CAs in speed
Gotta catch that shikican 
fate 5 azuma blue skill can proc at start of battle like roon shield
ibuki doesn't have that before
doesn't have what before
evasion buff before fate 5
ah, that's new skill ye
she has torp barrage
IF her fate 5 also made torp barrage procable on 1st torps

triple torps
that shit hurts like aya skill barrage
if her barrage didn't have cd at all would be nice a 2 barrage start insta reset
with no cd on it could proc twice
stop breaking the game 

it would make siren farming even faster
eldridge retro one day
prepare for ton of reset then 
cannot delete her in 1 strike anyway

Eldridge only deletable on initial cd stage
if not for that CD...

and we havent even tested her with sheff cuz sheff wasnt around during enty meta
Shef needs embarrassing outfit 
i'd say thank god. enty vs enty was bad enough
"Embarassing outift" would undoubtly make Nep even stronger.
It would amplify her teasing tendency tenfold.
@sharp wing remember that she is commando under that maid uniform
now imagine what would happen if she wear less clothe while going commando
rated A game?


another day of "the ship power numbers make no sense"
something something tech levels
game cant math
AL
makes sense
im showing the tech lvls tho

im just taking my time 
I do cranes w/ Houshou
Azuma will be ok for me, got lots of IJNs I want to lvl more and also got to get my second Nagato to 120
ill be leveling atago/jintsuu/sendai probably
IJN main will be Nagato #2, Izumo, and Akashi
IJN vanguard will be Ibuki, Choukai, and Ayanami
dem takaos
dork can get mvp in w12 using meme gun tf
illust with ihr
wtf
I slept on 4 like 6 days ago

I still have 3 matches so I might be able to feed someone

9s and 8s are the same with +1?
Like you fight an opponent at -35 points you get -1?
-2 i dont even remember
Rip
was it -35

only rusher probably get it
You can on your last match if you get really unlucky
gonna eat dem 8/9
Better to take a -1 when you have only like 3 or 4 people ahead than risk a refresh into a -2

on the other hand i get this on my alt 
🎬
i smell more ijn bs on these new ships
I see new oni waifu


So i mostly want my Suzu
But ISS rerun only in spring
When warkai w/ 410 armor breaks enemy on 1st hit and keep butchering it 
Savage corgi

I'm at r12 atm on Avrora with 1 missed attack earlier in the season and super casual sandbagging @empty grove
I think Avrora competitiveness has slowed down a lot cause it used to be much harder to get Admiral of the Fleet even without missing a single attack. Either that or everyone is busy cause of the holiday season
***super casual sandbagging *** 
How's Georgia's performance on PvP?
I get on average 2-3 bonus points per day. I'd call that casual by my standards at least 
casual is 3 times a day
also pr got hit hard by 0 luck stat
so most pr is bad at pvp
Yeah, I only check 3 times a day

Yea tru, this is why I field x2 SGs on my PR stuff 
few evas wont make u survive longer 
Georgia targeting is random so 
if she tries to hit VG with SHS,
- ghlf actually hitting them
- watch as you do no damage on the light armor targets
PvP is literally the inverse of PvE on Georgia vs Warkai barrages 
Dev30 + Fate5 + Washing Machine + Beaver Badge is the only way my St. Louis survives long in PvP
im not maxed fate yet, but bel survive longer for me
deus vult is a fucking disappointment for me
dev 30 her then use for 1 day
drop right after

47% for 2 mill
4 fckin bp so far
tf
i am still trying to focus on PR 1
hows laif

those from cubes or only gold research?
hey, my almost-700 stockpile is just being useless anyways

anyways, omw to terrorize PvP in about 5 months
if not unlucky with events / event powercreep happens
Suruga is coming
more ijn bs
Hey, Formi did shake things up a bit
Irl she's an upgraded amagi, soooo
i feel no earth quake from her
inb4 another amagi but this time with AP barrage 
@abstract cypress max Fate extends her evasion buff from 30s to 50s. Pretty big diff
extends by +10 s
nep can do that w/o fate 5 with 1 hand behind her back

also any idea where is the new meta of using torp autism buki come from?
all those lucky crt on my VG
only comp i reset against
normal VG i just steam roll them
Torp meme has always been good for defense.
not before WS is a thing tho
i rarely see them pre WS
post WS i see them everywhere now

Maybe cause people finally realize da wae.

but I've known about torp cancer even before mags came out 
Don't worry, I only set my defense to that when I'm angry 

Fear The Kraken
Not surprising we see more postws
Ibuki, ofc, being PR, takes time
but even in general, torpmemes does well vs warkai
only against the casual ones ;)
warkai teams tend to have low vanguard pressure
and ofc no Hiryuu to cuck fast teams and force stall setups
And ofc also warkai for self can trigger Hiryuu early
and you need another IJN for 4 IJN if you warkai
tend
Don't even need ibuki. Just Jintsuu/Aya/Yuki enough.
Aya 
triple nepgun shreds squish builds anyways
sendai has 2nd torp + reload buff plus CL damage amp
stacking 2 buffs for jint
far better than using a dd
by a little bit
xD
but basically just use cls for that sweet sweet 15% damage boost
destroyers outside of ykkz are whack
TIL not to do 6hr pr2 free research anymore 
just finished 1 and got 1 blue weapon bp + coin
You underestimate Aya's power 
aya barrage nuke backline if hits
free 
Even if I was going to sleep, I would rather pick the 1/hr 3/cube comm overnight
ive done many pr1 free research and never gotten just a blue bp before so 
Just whel you cheapskate 

clearly don't do your Q researches enough
always taking 12 hr cuz laif 
great rate for those
just, 1H means 1/3 of the time all you get is a blue equip print and some coin
the rate on it is actually very high
it just seems like poor rewards since it's so short
the 1 hr equipment ones? I like those too
its like a free refresh
best PR equip print rate outside of the 30 min researches
how else do you think I kept up on PR equip prints even though I had 0 coin for like 4 months?
C is just trash
might as well just take Q for equips and wait until you have coin to spare to chase PR ship prints
idk man i did plenty q research as well and dont even hav a 5th for many gears
I'm past my sixth with many 
i only take c if theres no better alternative (eg all cube research)
u just lucky 
the only gear that matterered are nepgun/stag/washing machine
too bad I've no 6th of those 
they shud implement gear bp exchange as well
@hot creek am i suppose to be impress?
PogChamp
well, it is very good in some cases
unless you doing some ex mode shit
ch12 triple bb
you only need only 1 for ws
and now in pvp
meh just use normal load out can work
just a few second faster clear time
whatever

well, it's significant difference

for just couple seconds no1 would bother
no smolspite emoji
sad
still niche use either way for the cost of plate
not everyone is swimming in plate

more like u can never hav enuf aux plates
well, i'm out of gun plates atm

was upgrading something and stuck at +9

if you want to know who the boss in pve then use purrin + bullin in w13 lethal
that will show them who the boss real good

i'll be waiting for someone to do it 
doubt anyone sane enough would do it
Not really
And it will be good if Ak even have half of Al stable population
Most game's population dies off after half year
AL doing pretty good so far
yeah, pick the top1s

I'm laughing at E7 atm
found a pilot in IS that changes from male to female with skin

Can i call THAT a waifu 
traps and trans are in now arent they? xD

sounds fine then?


think of azuma instead
honestly i thought she was kaga-chan but then i thought about it and the features arent the same
she is too dandere for kaga

That thing .. eye patch or something.. is really off tho...
Rozen maiden reference?
is it an eye patch or just a larger ribbon in her hair that happens to cover her eye
cause there's hair under that spot
yeah... it weird in more than 1 way
the thread matches the smol ribbon on the right side under her ear
And there another small thing on her head


although she also has a bunch of satanic manjuu charms covering her guns

gotta cover up her POWER
Little satanist loli who offered her eye to the dark gods
sounds about right
Yeap.

so i guess manjuu worship AL satan


It's all according to her plan
She has it on the floor under carpet in her shop
When u pay to akashi, u pay to satan

RIP whels
It's ok
Soulless creatures
She can't take what FGO stole
Void ones


FGo is satanist circle 


I was never here


maybe ijn will get a zombie boat finally

Still recovering cubes...
this damn events take too much
What do we call new CL gun, Seattle gun?

unless someone makes up a new name, ship + gun is easy enough
oh, neat
Call the new CL gun Belgun+ 
but more accurate and 3x2 pattern
less spread, more targeting range, nepgun ammo range, HE++
Belgun Kai
and a nice fp/aa spread
and adds AA

























