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in one equip

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oh and you still have the character skills

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and you can take skills from other characters (with limitations)

sharp wing
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so yeah, AL is at least reasonable in not as power creeped as that

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and accessibility

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power creep usually needed to keep whales competing, so games doesn't become lowprofit

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So the rest of playerbase can suddenly die out, lol

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There games with like few hundreds players anyway

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and there still whale wars

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So ye, it kinda works

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i mean whales gonna whale

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it's fine

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devs get money, what else is needed

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im like a casual whale for al

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i buy the big packs

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nothing else xD

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they're efficient AkashiSparkle

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well, i never bought resources

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cosmetics and qol stuff

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and u still manage to get everything

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So AL basically has low lvls of powercreep in whaling aspect

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oh yeah i havent bought cubes/oil/gold

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only pngs and dock space xD

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Holy PNGs

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oh aurora is 120

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time to level a new ship

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thinking... black prince

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i'm lvling buki

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im building ibuki X_x

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The Kraken

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like exp farming?

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im on the exp part yeah

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but im still trying to level nepnod

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so it's slow

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the one nice part of pushing to 0

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is that im basically guaranteed a rusher

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I swap em all around, not decided yet where to put my 2 hundread gen bps

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i can recover a little bit of points ;)

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just a little

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got +3

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when u rush, u get in rusher pack too

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200 IQ plays

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i mean

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it's still net negative

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like if i had gotten +1 for 8 fights instead of blowing them all id have 5 more xD

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oh god event sub has such bad range

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why =(

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And refrain from mentioning strange letters combinations like f, e, h to not end like XyBuckySmug

coral wren
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Was he finally danned?

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oh you missed it

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xD

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FdG Graf Okal didn't work out

coral wren
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Discord mods are too smart

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i guess im stuck with gatos + u-522

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why

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Nice choice

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well, i like the gato bonuses

sharp wing
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well...

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and u-522 has huge range + 1 free call in per stage

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xD

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I just like crippling qol too much

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cause gatos have bad range

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minelayers

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w/ homing mines

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close proximity

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xD

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gatos have like 25 total squares of range in their awkward layout

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u-522 has like 28

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well, layout matter more

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in a nice 5x5 layout

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5x5 = 25 🤔

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they often spawn in a way, that half of those stretched layouts go offmap

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yeah

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well, not half...

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u-522 has a 5x5, - bottom right corner, but left side and top side have an extra 2 each

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so 25-1 + 4

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Depends on the map as well

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then you look at cavalla or albacore and it's like what the hell is going on here

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12-4 has good sub coverage

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some maps are more stretched

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but this event sub is even worse lol

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some more square

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well, some subs are meant for flag w/ their skill barrages, some not

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I still need proper Steel to skill

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using +6 battery and skilled Edelweiss for +2 asr now

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i +10'd my battery xD

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well...

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no

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having cat +2 range must be nice

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2 cats +1 each

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But i can't skill my shitty steel now

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so only 1 +1 cat

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rip

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well not +10 battery + 1 cat

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still 2 ASR

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hmm is black prince just an eagle anywhere in the fleet

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might be fun to run her for smoke instead of nepnod

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and 20% crit is worse than ap boost but i can live with that

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we'll get HE cl guns eventually anyways xD

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If crits affected DoTs

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yeah im good with that not happening

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Some games have even crit HoTs

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otherwise sodak focused assault crits would burn for like

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2k

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Sodako glory days

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too bad hiei doesnt have her shield skill

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hiei is BC at all

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only a bad one

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xD

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same with myoukou/nachi

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hmm yes i too like to commit sudoku

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by absorbing 50% of the damage

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with no tank stats to back it up

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the positive thing of myoukous is 30+ speed

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on top of their big eHP

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yeah i guess they have 5k hp

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they have 32 speed

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xD

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ijn eva

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and big hp

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but without the hp refund like sodak's

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skill proc is just instant death

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without any benefit

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and it triggers at the 20

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_>

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well, u keep important vgs alive

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except you dont

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if it happens

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because you already ate barrages 4 seconds before that or w/e

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xD

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also 40% activation rate

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well, vs cvs

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big meme

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and big gun shelling

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well, they used not for skill

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yeah, it's just sad

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cause it'd be cool to have a tank/shield vanguard

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meatshield

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personally id like to see defense skills trigger for the first time when they're actually needed xD

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but that is pvp specific

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so it'll never happen

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Eldridge no initial CD

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Tops? never heard

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And she would go off cd for second volley

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make littorio shield reproc reee

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why is it only one time X_x

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Cause OP LaffeyHide

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gud joke

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blocking 4 torpedos in pve is like a drop in the bucket xD

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What if yr bucket really tiny

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does it block airborne torps?

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no idea

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at least even if i used her in pvp her gun wouldnt actually have a negative

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since she'd die before 3rd set

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xD

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IF yr battle lasts long enough to make 3 salvos from that big gun...

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It shall be irrelevant

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i mean, battle wont last long since you're using her

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;)

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I mean, even 3 volleys of twin381 is like super long

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i suppose she has acceptable FP and shelling damage, if only she had a way to focus backline

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ap gun >_>

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i forget what her barrage looks like

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like um knock off of KGV?

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oh

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is it ap or normal still

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xD

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or... SAP barrage

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jk

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well, more like something like Wash ap barrage

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oh ok it has the arcing kgv part mixed with the arcing wash part

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lol

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kinda

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and are those russia aimed lasers

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lol

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good old russia cl gun

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only gun for avrora

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xD

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the drunkest gun

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equal damage to med/heavy, lol

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same as he part

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o.O

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what ammo is this

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xD

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lel

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well, kgv shoots "flying torpedoes" so i'm not surprised by anything anymore

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1st rocket bote in AL

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where the jets at jk

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In core shop

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Gascan fires a tricolour rainbow

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i wonder what the ammo type on purifier will be when we get her

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;))))

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what is the ammo type on that collab laser

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lol

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1st trap of AL

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laser are just ap prolly

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"ap"

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xD

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As AP, as it gets

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SAP gun come back

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U trigger PTSD

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Why u do dis

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When Nanoda rams some1 to death and procs 1 damage, it so troll MakinaSmug

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since ive been using aurora i havent had ykkz problems

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xD

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with this new and improved boiler aurora can actually survive

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bulge rudder LaffeyHide

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what does that make the kizuna chip

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lel

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i like to pad my fleet power kthx

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it's gooooold

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It's nanotech BuckySmug

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purple boiler AkagiNo

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gold boiler AkagiYes

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it already did

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it only worked during event

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;)

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What if it's actual molecular processor

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oh, t6 safe finally

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xD

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so hows Warspite kai in pvp?

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performs as expected

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if medium armor target, first barrage crits big

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heavy still takes a large chunk

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yea, i see medium armor like Enterprise, Hiryuu taking more than half hp off

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Namaryuu team feel like paper with Warspite kai

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haha my entire team has heavy or light armor

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git rekt nerds

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no medium armor up in my business

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lol, looks like CV siren only bugged on certain danger lvls, on Lethal she didn't move, on medium she moves

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guys guys
So I did a bit more thinking on Aqua now that I have stats on her barrage from Just3c (that I'm now doubting, for reasons that will become clear)
Aqua with hololive apparently has 1200 bdmg opening barrage with 120% torp mod
and autocrit
and is affected by her 30% dmg buff
and Aqua's stats are fairly standard gold SS stats
Standard SS barrage (opening or skill) damage is ~600 on the higher end
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If numbers and skills are correct, she's on paper better than U-47

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uh, how do you get her barrage to sync with damage amp?

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Damage amp is <20s not >20s

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implying you going to use full fleet hololive for a gimmick SS opening barrage

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datamine mistled it
CN original text reads <20s

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It's still 600 damage autocrit 120% torp stat mod without hololive

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oh, someone needs to redo the description lol

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i thought it was after 20

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xD

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lol

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compare the usual 540 on the gold Uboats, I-19, I-168
who don't(?) have autocrit, and don't have 120% mod

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yeah that's pretty good

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wiki still says after 20 sec

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well

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CN wiki at least says "within 20s"

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you can also read it as like

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after entering battle for 20 seconds

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xD

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EN ingame also says "for 20s"

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because bad translate

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i-168 has autocrit barrage, but on resurface PortDoll

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which is whatever

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Yeah, I-168 has autocrit+120% mod 600 bdmg surface barrage

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but no 30% dmg boost on top of that

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Actually having damage boost after 20 sec makes little sense w/ how her skill works

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Since she gets -oxy

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Idk, "last gasp boost"

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that's what i thought

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would make her the usual "not quite as good as others" collab ship

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If she get's damage boost from start, she is useable even w/ lvl1 skill MakinaSmug

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Which makes sense even

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U upgrade skill to increase buffed combat duration

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she get's 208 oxy w/ maxed skill

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and oxy consumption is what oxy/10 sec

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so with maxed skill she gets full effect of buff

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And she has no barrage on surfacing/retreating

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no reason to keep her in the fight that long

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just shoot and run

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xD

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Run FAST

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zoooom

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Would be fun, if her skill also reduced surface time

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like surface and insta retreat

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w/ +100% speed

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wonder if it will work more than one time, if we use her in weekly

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or there retreat won't even trigger

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If it's +100% speed stat, then it might make her 4X faster
movement speed scales with square of speed stat

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Probably not quite that meme?

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xD

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well, her buff is a meme

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Same like that KMS sub

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offense: increase damage dealt by 1%

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that's less than a cat

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xD

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previous KMS sub had only 1 such buff skill

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heal is most OP

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Doesn't even increase w/ lvl

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5 hp/2

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amaaaazing

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1% hp at least, lul

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0.5%

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nope, just a flat 5

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Yuubari heal same shite

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xD

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well, one of them, she has 2

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% and 9

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One of ships i prefer vanilla skin over retro

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oh right that skill

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Watching OklaKai vicedefing suicide boats is pretty satisfying BuckySmug

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xD

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And planes even more

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endless line of procs

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CV sirens hurt

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KGV WarKai Monarch or KGV WarKai Centaur Thinkpitz

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former if you really want to snipe a motherfucker, latter if no

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Switching to WaKai. With KGV and Moanarch.

At least til we have PR2, and I got Azuma, then I'd use some triple oppai of CIF (C0me In Face) of Centaur Lusty and Formie BuckySmug

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And now my Formie + Cent being put on hiatus kek

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wdym you can always just roll everyone with warkai + FC

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or just ws/amagi/formidable

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like me

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;)

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Mamagi strictly for def fleet kek

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amagi MakinaSmug

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ijn not allowed

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imagine using three main of the same faction

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;)

ionic magnet
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true faction fleets are 1:3 or 2:2

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well i guess i can drop cent or formie cos im not using kgv anymore

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but not until amagi gets a swimsuit skin

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i find formi to be a better generalist solo cv

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yea her stun just syncs perfectly with BB shells

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and shares dr

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with your main

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and heavy armor

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and good pressure from suicide barrage planes

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yea

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and flood damage is still free damage xD

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even though the ratio is bad

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i put formidable bottom in my fleet

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because the only slot she can be warspited from is top

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which is easily focused by my own ws+amagi

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any other position has rudder/armor amagi sponging the strikes+ rng evasion rate

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xD

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if hms had an MG+1 dd gun vanguard cl

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would be great

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should have given sirius/black prince mgm+1 >_>

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or sheffy retro SandyMeme

ionic magnet
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would be busted too

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really wanna test already

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but no good fleets

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would it though

ionic magnet
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sirius is pretty niche

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she'd probably be weaker than sandy retro still cause her fp isnt high enough

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the aggro option to sandy's defensive option

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idk sirius already does decent dmg

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on top of her buff

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well VG dmg is a small part only tho

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so yea maybe wont be noticeable anyways

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her gun damage is just ok, but no mgm+1 basically means she'll never do anywhere near as much as sandy xD

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although she does beat sandy's fp with no cvs, but only barely

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by 5

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with 3 cvs she beats her by 43

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not a ton more really

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but no mgm+1 means rip gun damage

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might as well use london

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every faction needs a cl with mgm+1 dd gun option

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reee

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mgm+1 is all sandys got
give her a break BuckySmug

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cos AA is PortDoll

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i mean, she has a 2nd barrage too

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she shoots all the guns

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they home a little or something too

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xD

ionic magnet
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i could swap sandy back in for the pew pew but im trying nepnod first

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no mgm+1 but she has 35% ap so

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and tanky sometimes

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although sandy might be better with her luck stat Thinkpitz

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nah nep should tank better

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shes on ykkz tier as a cockroach

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only losing to ykkz cos ykkz has that backline heal and buff plus being a DD means more speed

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yeah

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sigh it's so hard to find dd gun dps X_x

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or rather 360 degree gun dps

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where's azuma so i can shoot wherever

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xD

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hmm if we're getting pr2 soon

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pr3 should come also

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for jp cn

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need my rainbow CV

hot creek
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lol

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i didnt realize her eyebrows showed up through her hair like that

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XD

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sigh, too bad ijn mgm+1 destroyer guns are all wasted on sub 100 fp ships

empty grove
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@hot creek I wonder if headnod is basically Lu Bu

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QE/WS/Formie seems promising. Need another meta defense to test against.

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qe >_>

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oh hey

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I see keripo

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but I doubt he can push anymore to give me a +1 with me at 7/10

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just had some funny shit happen

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vg ran behind backline right when enemy warspite fired marksman

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so it completely whiffed

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10/10 strats

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do you know whats funniest

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using meta fleet means youll never need to reset anymore

midnight heron
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not when u get trash rng UniGun

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not even

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i dunno what fleet do u even use

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im using namagiws

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even if the 2 doesnt proc its still the same

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i'm running kvg/mona/wskai - should I use team emblem on any of them?

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in place of SG radar which i'm using atm

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rng isnt defined by just procs tho

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if ur shells all target and completely whiff enemy vg dats also rng

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obv dats an extreme case but u get the point

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and idk about team emblem just cuz no one knows if they'll nerf it to its supposed "proper" stats

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use Formie and freeze VG OwariWOKE

midnight heron
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formi is the best cv

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I beg to differ

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Kek, ws kai is non existent on def fleets

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event too distracting

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xD

shy hazel
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i need someone here

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who has me on their list

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test my new def fleet

midnight heron
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time to change server

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i been seeing lots of wskai on def fleet tho

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then i just put bunny to tank and laugh

coral wren
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Now i realize ppl were just overreacting to ws kai. She isn’t really broken. Fucking amagi on the other hand...

shy hazel
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what

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wskai is better than amagi in offense

coral wren
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Wskai is just a glass canon, while amagi is a powerhouse

hot creek
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WSkai still miss her shots like half the time when enemy Amagi is on the field (and if you're not using Amagi yourself)

blazing scroll
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10% miss chance el gigle because why not xd))11

blazing scroll
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I wouldn't call wskai a glass canon tho

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Still 8k hp

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But it's true that wskai misses a lot of shots

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My enty can still tank her just fine

stoic skiff
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Maybe I should change ShS with some eva Aux, on WS you use her for barrage and I think the white shell is enough?

forest lake
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Shell + SG

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Btw. If u are using Centaur, Illustrious, and Formidable as backline. Alongside Azumama.

I wonder if we should call em CIF with Azumama BuckySmug

ionic magnet
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warkai aux just depends on how tanky you want her to be

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you can drop white shell and still snipe things

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expecting her to 1 shot anyone decent is just silly tho

stoic skiff
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Usually she is the first to die atleast from what little I saw from my pvp

ionic magnet
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yes her eva is well just your average BB eva

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im using 2x SG right now for example and so far she's surviving just fine on flag position

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if you want to be extra safe then rudder + SG

stoic skiff
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Ah I use her as my side main

ionic magnet
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but then again her hit suffers a bit so its a tradeoff

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if shes not flag then no need for rudder or 2x SG imo

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you can just place her on non amagi/ws lane

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just go hfcr + SG/white shell then

stoic skiff
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Ok, thanks

coral wren
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is mutsuki good in pvp

shy hazel
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thats the purpose of using your own amagi

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make ws hit more

elder crane
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Amagi does nothing for that....

forest lake
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Amagi does decrease enemy eva

coral wren
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I’m pretty sure with ws’s acc she only misses due to 10%

ionic magnet
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ws has high accuracy yes
its basically a free SG radar
but that also means its just a ~7% bonus hit rate

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Amagi doesn't reduce enemy eva smh

ionic magnet
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it doesnt make her base 50% hit rate suddenly shoot up to 90%

elder crane
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Idk where you're getting that amagi reduces eva from

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Warspite high luck also contributes as well

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Still, that's "just" around a 4-5% hitrate bonus

blazing scroll
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Yeah, I realized i mixed up the eva thing from the blue skill

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Is nagato/amagi/warspite a viable main fleet?

coral wren
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Sucks on def

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For offense prolly yes. But everything will work on offense with namagi

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Is there a ship that wants the team emblem

forest lake
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I'd say you can replace SG or Rudder if you need more survivability or hit respectively

elder crane
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Team emblem is the best overall aux equip for anyone

forest lake
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But no one knows if EN has the correct version

elder crane
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CVs especially like it since there's no good source of hit for them

shell heron
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Well, assuming shown values are correct

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the "wrong" HP values are applied, so I see no reason to believe the shown values are applied

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But yeah,
Slightly less defensive potential than rudder
Slightly less offensive potential than SG
But it's significantly better than the average point of SG and rudder

In terms of overall total offensive+defensive "power" of equips, SG and Rudder are roughly equal (and roughly equal to the best other options like Shells), so team emblem, assuming values are correct, is by far the highest offensive+defensive "power" equip

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Hey guys, do you have any good ideas on how to figure out if Fubuki barrage is affected by AA dred or not?
Apparently it counts as torp damage, not bomb damage, as evidenced by chip dalies
if it doesn't get affected by AA dred, then it's ridiculously powerful, more damage output than Aya Dmode barrage.....

midnight heron
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WarShrug i read somewhere its only 60% of torp stat or smth tho

stoic skiff
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What does "AA dred" means?

elder crane
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Basically, all aviation damage is reduced by the AA of the target

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150/(150+AA) multiplier

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late-game, you'll see values mostly ranging from 65-80% damage reduction
this is why despite CVs having extremely high raw damage values relative to BBs, they don't do much more damage (overall, CVs tend to be weaker at highest levels)

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Ah I see, Still why Fubuki have AA stat...She isn't like Mikasa who with AA decrease the plane damage when they pass your screen Thinkpitz

vague token
#

it's so she doesnt get deleted by 12-3 dive bombers

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xD

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if you have 0 aa you take full damage from planes

stoic skiff
#

I didn't know it was even for Vanguard

elder crane
#

Applies to all types of Aviation damage
Bombs, torps, suicide

stoic skiff
#

Ah

elder crane
#

the skill plane bombs
I'm being told that it isn't

vague token
#

xD

#

also at that point, would bulge work on it? xD

stoic skiff
#

Still is hard to try if it is affected, If you try on a low level you will get the bonus if you try in 12-4 you will get debuff depending on her level no?

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Every time I try a Formula it is wrong SandyCry

vague token
#

hmm, if i ran kirishima (fireworks)/sora/formidable i could stack a lot of dots SandyMeme

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does kirishima barrage even hit the backline

#

ill have to check

vague token
#

hmm i could run atago and belfast too

#

for more burning

tranquil dock
elder crane
#

mk6 is the slightly better gun of the two overall, but 381 is useful for offsetting her firing time from other BBs
381 is around even with mk6 if on a good barrage ship due to extra FP, but also is just the right timing to hit into enemy rudder skill, which can be annoying

grim ember
forest lake
hoary pasture
#

is it possible to use warkai's mark to focus the ryuusei torp aims from CVs?

vague token
#

no

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the skill explicitly says guns

midnight heron
#

ah yes avga and beacon finally

forest lake
#

So now that we have those what are the BiS for CV/Ls?

midnight heron
#

probably those 2 lul

shy hazel
forest lake
#

Good point

shy hazel
#

it barely matters now

violet sapphire
#

The two new core data item is used in pvp right

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Or only one of em

vague token
#

jet fuel just replaces the oil tank

#

it's just straight up better

violet sapphire
#

Uhh which is the jet fuel

#

The 100/150 aviation fuel right, just making sute

vague token
#

yeah

#

oh god

#

the jet fuel skill description

#

bad translation

midnight heron
#

how much does beacon affect plane aa in pve

#

maybe can extend to pvp as well but honestly does plane aa even do much in pvp lul

still minnow
#

is the hololive aux still best aux for CVs?

#

I've got a 3 cv backline, all have drop tanks, one has a PR rudder, one has beaver, and the other has a gold catapult

#

I'd assume I'd give the hololive aux to the CV with the catapult (instead of the catapult)?

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but I guess this is all assuming hit actually does something for CVs

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and I have no idea if it does

forest lake
#

What's your fleet

still minnow
forest lake
#

By event gear you mean the one that gives EVA/Hit yea?

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Give it to Formi I guess

still minnow
#

ye

#

sneeze has beaver

forest lake
#

Beaver+that then
Or the new Gasoline from core + that

still minnow
#

uhhhh

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core shop seems to be gone

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for me

#

wtf

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ok reboot game mebbe

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yeah that fixed it

#

so what's BiS equipment for 3 CV backline now with homing bacon and gas?

#

beaver & bacon, hololive & bacon, rudder & gas?

#

in no particular order

forest lake
#

I guess WarShrug

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Bacon if you need faster strikes

still minnow
#

I'm trying to lengthen the time between the strikes done by formi & bataan from taiho

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as much as possible

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because 3 CVs runs into a targetting bug

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if they all strike simultaneously

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so that would be bacon on both and then taiho with gas

frail orbit
#

Bacon for the likes of Formie kek

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Anyway tho

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Still sad. OP gold divebomber when.

No more Rare gears for proletar pls, at least some nice SR gears for bourgeois

still minnow
#

you heard it here first folks taiho has gas

shy hazel
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dont put avgas it

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formi

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i believe it was never fixed

still minnow
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what are you trying to tell me

#

I don't understand

coral wren
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"it reduces knocking by 150%"

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pretty good when ur trying to sleep

elder crane
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Engine knock
But "by 150%", tf does that even mean CleveXD

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It's actually a pretty good description except for the "by 150%" part which is an immediate "that's not how it works smh"

coral wren
#

its useful when you're trying to ignore jehovah's witness on your door

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150% knocking reduction

coral wren
jovial mural
#

Pvp guide still not up to date MutsukiCurse

elder crane
#

Doesn't even have Sandyret AkagiLUL

#

Only new teams are FC, which some theorycraft is given, and Warkai, which you just slot wherever

jovial mural
#

Is mona dev 20 better than hood? (both 120) Fumizoomi

elder crane
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No
I'm not sure if she's even better at dev25

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dev30 though obviously for most situations

shell heron
#

And no Portland UniSip

ionic magnet
#

yea you need to wait for another week
cos its impossible to find a proper fleet to test with during mid season

#

as for sandy, she can stay in pve SandyLul

vague token
#

she's still the best vanguard gunner to be fair xD

#

pew pew

blazing scroll
#

You don't know what it's like to hold true power

lament lichen
#

15k power VG

elder crane
#

15k VG HoodDisgust
15k Main HoodSip

hot creek
#

Got rid of Nox after I updated it and it installed adware UniYan

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Need a new emulator.

finite valve
#

been using nox since forever never got any adware

#

i think he meant the accept or reject package that comes with the installer

hot creek
#

some program called winzip driver installer appeared after I updated Nox

finite valve
#

nox alone ain't going to install any adware

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most likely due to the installer when updating

#

this is why i always read wtf they are saying when using an installer

hot creek
#

Im usually good about that but they made it pretty decietful this time. I updated through Nox itself and I guess they rearranged the buttons/UI to make it look like you were confirming to install the update but I guess it snook some other bullshit in.

finite valve
hot creek
#

so GG, done with Nox.

finite valve
#

got that happen to me a few time

#

can try memu or LDP or BS i guess

#

BS is shit and memu and LDP are just avg

#

so LaffeyDrink

vague token
hot creek
#

ill probably try memu, hopefully they don't have the same shit when installing ZeppyMad

finite valve
#

just open your eyes and read them

#

unless you got the EN syndrome

coral wren
#

i want my pr2 boats

hot creek
#

or maybe I go hardcore and use the offical android SDK emulator UniYan

finite valve
#

can't give 0 shit about PR 2

#

not enough stagg and rudder to focus on PR 2

#

rainbow gun + DC / DR (?) bps

empty grove
finite valve
#

but hey on the bright side we can totally know who the whale just by looking at mommy and my wife lb lvl

hot creek
#

having a lot of cubs to burn does not = whale tho.

finite valve
#

Press [X] to doubt due to EN sonic speed

elder crane
#

Oh yeah, nox is really bad about installing random shite

#

you're better off dling a cleaned version tbh

finite valve
#

is depend on user experience tbh

#

i been using nox for years

hot creek
#

I always found it funny when I got my first dev 30's relatively early and ppl call me whale. Like nah, I just have a bunch of cubes and grind coins when need be. Spending real money on cubes/coin is terrible deal, even worse than spending money on Saint Quartz or Feh Orbs BuckySmug

elder crane
#

Last update installed some random thing without any confirmation

finite valve
#

after the few times just clicking yes yes on nox

#

no more adware for me

#

not for me tho

elder crane
#

Well, you can always do the set of edits to lock Nox down and stop the random installs

#

and phone-homes

finite valve
#

yep

#

@balmy torrent only for new version tho

#

older version don't have that problem

#

well ldp is shit anyway so zzz

#

memu is going to be best bet

#

next would be BS

#

but the way BS operate grind my gear so fucking much

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like you can't even change the fucking app position on the main screen

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like wtf?

hot creek
#

kept getting that API error on login which was annoying me even though it didn't affect gameplay so I updated thinking it would fix, ended up with adware and no fix Uzukiiiii

#

burned the whole thing down. UniYan

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now I'm back to phone only life.

finite valve
#

playing mobile phone on a phone?

#

what kind of filthy casual are you

#

scrap your old PC set up and buy a new one

hot creek
#

Could probably stay on phone only since I don't play that much these days.

finite valve
hot creek
#

but won't be able to record gameplay since android screen captures are all paid or shite.

#

Honestly I'm kind of over this game anyways, Warspite kai was the last thing I was waiting for and now I've got to play with her, so WarShrug

empty grove
#

I used Nox all the time until it went to shit for me with the APK update

finite valve
#

simple gg search can do wonder

hot creek
#

well, last time I tried finding a decent screen recording I couldnt find anything good but thanks, this looks good

#

oh, lol

#

this doesn't record sound unless you're on Android 10 🚮

upper sparrow
#

what is the best loadout for formi ( i dont have ryuusei yet)?

vague token
#

aggressive option is heccdiver/cuda/albacore

#

defensive option is pirate/cuda/albacore

#

but your vanguard pressure will drop a lot with pirate

upper sparrow
#

thx

hot creek
#

Gonna be honest with ya, Ryuusei is trash in general these days.

#

I go with Helldiver/Cuda/Alba

jovial mural
#

I plan to build a full french team, will such a team allow me to steal some wins vs top meta pvp comps?

#
  • there are only dunkerque and jean bart as main fleet french ships, i'm searching for a third ship but i dont really know what would work the best MutsukiCurse
frail orbit
#

1 ryuusei on Cent. 1 cuda on Formie I'd prefer tbh.

still minnow
#

centaur has the same visual design as the french ships, just use her nobody would notice the difference

frail orbit
#

Btw, any good XX HMS slot for YKKZ/Jun/XX?

still minnow
#

belfast

frail orbit
#

Since am leveling headnod now, belfap on QE Mon WSKai

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Not even dev30 headnod kek

ionic magnet
#

sheffield or aurora depending on what you want to do

frail orbit
#

Aurora on WSkai

#

This one's for KFC lel

ionic magnet
#

ryuusei vs cuda was always just preference

#

formi guarantees that ryuusei will always hit so yea

still minnow
#

@ionic magnet would lusty, sirius, eldridge, belfast be a trolly tanky frontline or is going for troll frontline without using ykkz totally pointless?

frail orbit
#

French PVP just wait for Gascan and Richelieu honestly

ionic magnet
#

its just killing backlines straight up is a legit strat

#

and not killing enemy jun fast makes it easier

frail orbit
#

Unless we have PR2 and I have Azumama then I could sub KGV for Lusty

still minnow
#

?

ionic magnet
#

not using at least 1 of jun and ykkz is always a disadvantage

frail orbit
#
ionic magnet
#

ykkz is p much a better eldridge in all aspects anyways

#

so just use her BuckySmug

still minnow
#

well I'm not going to

ionic magnet
still minnow
#

because she's a douche

frail orbit
#

@ionic magnet that's the exact shit why am pairing WS with Moanarch anyways.

KGV would always shoot at the VG tbh.

#

While with WS Moan could actually unlimited snipe works on backline kek

#

@still minnow say that douche to Nelson or Hipper nowadays kek

Theirs being true tsundere, with all their pride above the earth's atmosphere

still minnow
#

no

#

true tsundere has DERE

#

like honolulu

#

they don't insult you

#

those are just tsuns

ionic magnet
#

i realy like sheff with jun+ykkz rn
makes lead jun tank torp memes a bit better
fight rng with more rng

frail orbit
#

Nah they're heavy on the tsun smhw keks

#

Emphasis on heavy

#

Which Hipper is clearly not for her assets that is

hot creek
#

HooLoo shitting on eldridge cause she legitimately cause problems for FC SandyMeme

frail orbit
#

This

ionic magnet
#

@jovial mural save your sanity that comp might be even worse than kms MutsukiStare

frail orbit
#

Pikachu just straight up keks fried chicken fryer

#

At least Nanoda wont shit on fried chicken tho

Unless some evasion meme keks

hot creek
#

Well, I mean not really but she can be annoying sometimes lol

jovial mural
#

@ionic magnet srsly ? MutsukiCurse

frail orbit
#

French not even having full gold backline, lacks vanguard too

#

And JB need slow/timestop

hot creek
#

Just use WS as your frenchie wildcard BuckySmug

ionic magnet
#

haven't met an eldridge since i removed aurora and kgv
but eld helps WFC actually i think
since i dont want to kill VGs fast until amagi dies

frail orbit
#

Just wait for Richelieu seriously

That, if she's basically French Bisco but better.

#

Also most of the time u wouldn't use baguettes for PVP keks

jovial mural
#

but i refuse MutsukiCurse

ionic magnet
hot creek
#

Follow your heart, and report the results. And since you'd be the only person spearheading french comps you can make up winrates BuckySmug

lament lichen
#

i wonder what gun people gonna put on wskai

#

confetti gun here

cerulean estuary
#

prototype AP gun SandyMeme

hot creek
#

Buff AP mods plz

frail orbit
#

406 mk6 too pleb
Pls buff AP mods

hot creek
#

Everytime I get hyped up about AP I just remember, this shit barely does any more damage than HE and even less when you count for missing out on ignition/fire.

ionic magnet
#

the dmg on light armors makes me sad

frail orbit
#

Meanwhile plebs wanted more gud rare/elite shit

Keks. Moar gud SR shit lah wkwkwk.

ionic magnet
vague token
#

make armor break work on all armor types reee

#

light too

#

then make all tiers of ap break armor

#

then make armor break a stacking debuff, number of stacks based on the weapon class

#

xD

frail orbit
vague token
#

HE gains 1% per stack, normal gains 1.25% per stack, ap gains 1.5% per stack

#

i mean, he already gains benefits now

#

might as well help out everyone

#

or, scrap armor break and just give flooding on ap damage

#

;)))))))

#

then add a flood aux

#

Manjuu Damage Control

#

or w/e

#

that would be boring but it would work

cerulean estuary
#

i want a "summon suicide boats" skill

vague token
#

yeah that could work

#

Damage Control Crew: Reduces chance of being flooded by %, reduces duration of flood by X, reduces damage bonus while flooding by %.

#

done

#

xD

#

make it a manjuu with a wrench or welder or w/e

#

then we just need an ap DD gun that isnt garbo

#

or i guess scale the proc rate based on relative armor

#

ap dd would be like 50% on light, but the flood base damage really low obviously

#

and bad on everything else

#

dd tier ap

#

the rest would overpen

#

CL/CA for medium armor

#

and BB for heavy

#

it would take a lot of damage bonus for dd ap to do damage anyways

#

even on light

#

it has a penalty xD

cerulean estuary
#

AP bullets means bigger shells irl
so its basically impossible for DD's and CL guns ( not all )

vague token
#

this is AL

#

irl means nothing

#

;)

cerulean estuary
#

well i might just i request manual control on pvp

AL when?

vague token
#

xD

safe meteor
#

so what is the new setup for carriers with the 2 new core data items?

frail orbit
#

Anything with slow reload just slap a bacon

cerulean estuary
#

u can beacon on CV with low reload stats

safe meteor
#

so Formidable

frail orbit
#

That'd make their boobs bigger as well

safe meteor
#

would you put this on Illustrious Unicorn etc?

cerulean estuary
#

CVL dont need beacons imo

#

they already have fast reloads

frail orbit
#

Lusty would like this for PVP

#

I meant on the link I put above

safe meteor
#

every ship should now use 100/150 aviation fuel instead of the old tank?

frail orbit
#

CVL like Cent and Uni wont need em

#

I meant bacon

vague token
#

id use them in pve still xD

#

4% is 4%

#

;)

frail orbit
#

Some said avgas is bugged eh?

safe meteor
#

but about the 100/150, use this from now on over the old aviation oil tank?

frail orbit
#

@shy hazel u might have some insight on em avgas

safe meteor
#

their hp buff dont stack i take?

#

avgas is?

#

ok

ionic magnet
#

yea old av oil tanks goes to 🚮

safe meteor
#

so thats what the new nickname is

#

ah, so they dont stack eh?

ionic magnet
#

they dont

safe meteor
#

so which gear for like Formidable, still the golden steam catapult and now with teh avgas?

vague token
#

well, one improves knocking by 150%

#

so

#

why would they stack

#

;)

ionic magnet
#

formi could use bacon but depends on what you're syncing her with

#

or use bacon on your other cv also so they still sync

safe meteor
#

oh oops i mean Centaur

#

since she didnt want the bacon?

ionic magnet
#

cent is already fast but yea its an option

safe meteor
#

so how is avgas bugged atm? or false alarm?

ionic magnet
#

for formi i wouldnt remove rudder cos she's tanking amagi/ws

#

it was bugged on CN with formi before

safe meteor
#

ah i guess rudder is another option

ionic magnet
#

formi didnt fire her barrage when equipped with av gas

safe meteor
#

we can easily check this right?

ionic magnet
#

but i tried it yesterday and she fires it just fine

#

yea

safe meteor
#

so, who would you give them now? since you got 1 at this time of each

ionic magnet
#

formi rudder+bacon
cent beaver+avgas

vague token
#

imagine not using team emblem/rwg on formi

#

xD

ionic magnet
#

maybe i can move beaver to ws

#

oh team emblem can replace rudder

vague token
#

until it gets nerfed

ionic magnet
#

forgot about that but chances are it will get fixed soon

#

yea

vague token
#

if it gets nerfed Thinkpitz

#

oh there's the faction gear

#

still not sure who i should put this on once i level sora

#

who would benefit the most from 10% movespeed and 7% dr

safe meteor
#

i guess Aviation oil still got uses as placeholders for 1 more month?

vague token
#

i mean it's basically how aggressive do you want your cv to be

safe meteor
#

(or 2 months for those that use 3x Carrier)

upper sparrow
#

for new 100/110 oil (ah whatever is the name) and home beacon in core data shop, those two good on pvp aux?

ionic magnet
#

hmm actually bacon isn't doing much on formi cos of fixed cd in-between airstrikes

#

on FC comp

vague token
#

imagine using aviation gear on formidable ;)

#

ONLY HIT

ionic magnet
#

dont need hit when crash dmg is 100%

vague token
#

i like not whiffing my dots

#

xD

#

zflag bois

ionic magnet
#

im trying so hard not to kill VGs especially juneau before amagi dies

vague token
#

ah

ionic magnet
#

wait how do you get the emblem again?

#

all these new gears forcing me to farm for aux plates

vague token
#

team emblem is uh

#

the sandy minigame one

#

tap two faces

#

you gotta 3 star all the maps, and complete sp to unlock each one

#

then just do them

#

no time limit

ionic magnet
#

ah

#

thats aqua not sandy

vague token
#

the minigame was for sandy before

#

it's the same game

#

with different faces

ionic magnet
#

oh kek

vague token
#

the grid of faces, tap two matching ones with no obstructions to clear them

#

clear the grid to win

#

xD

ionic magnet
#

gotcha

#

ill just replace rudder

vague token
#

im using zflag/emblem

#

xD

#

muh big crits

#

maybe i should try zflag/rudder kgv and make her barrage crit

#

still need more nepguns

#

X_x

#

too bad we cant zflag on vanguard

#

that would be fun

#

xD

coral wren
#

If only it was higher than 5%

vague token
#

i mean

#

5% is like a 40-50% increase for the average ship

#

with the usual hit values most should hover between 8-12 default crit rate

coral wren
#

I’d love to see monarch’s barrage crit

#

Should be more devastating than ws

#

Ahh, it’s only 150%

#

Nvm then lol

ripe latch
#

formi + cent good or usless?

forest lake
#

Good

elder crane
#

Oh, they fixed equip stats now AmagiKoff

forest lake
ionic magnet
#

which equip?

forest lake
#

Everything

#

Lul

ionic magnet
#

lol

forest lake
ionic magnet
#

good i didnt waste plates on emblem

forest lake
#

KisaaaaSpin Great waste of plates

#

I demand compensation

ionic magnet
forest lake
ionic magnet
#

so only good thing from event is gold boiler for fp?

forest lake
#

Boiler gave FP?

#

Same stats as boiler iirc but with BGM throughout the event duration

ionic magnet
#

ah i meant fleet power lol

forest lake
#

Ah yea

ionic magnet
vague token
#

so they gonna apologize for us investing or ?

#

xD

#

no notes for it on twitter lol

#

the good old dont tell anyone type fix

#

under the rug it goes

#

back to RWG i guess

forest lake
#

I'd prefer if the stats remained but the cost to upgrade is changed to match the usual gold equips

vague token
#

well some of the stats (the conversion item) were bad

#

15 hp xD

finite valve
#

the cost to upgrade were CN one tho

#

so not like you are losing much

still minnow
#

do I have any options for preventing my backline from being killed

#

or is frontline the only part of the fleet that I can actually make super tanky

#

I wanna try and make a troll fleet that lives forever lol

vague token
#

the main is far tankier than the vanguard even with warspites blasting you

#

so dont stress out about it too much

#

because wskai is here we're in a formation swap meta anyways

#

so you just put hiryuu kai to be shot by defense ws

#

or whoever is the bulkiest